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LE PROCUREUR GENERAL DU CANADA
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TABLE DES MATI~RES
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Le 28 septembre 1989 (Suite)
PREUVE DE LA REQU~RANTE IMPERIAL TOBACCO LIMITED ~ L'ENQU~TE
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Le 28 septembre 1989 (Suite)
In the year of Our Lord nineteen hundred and eighty-nine
(1989), on this twenty-eighth (28th) day of the month of
September, PERSONALLY CAME AND APPEARED:
ROY DONALD BROWN, forty-nine (49) years of age, residing at
four one five (415) Clarke Avenue, Westmount, province of
Quebec,
WHO, having been duly sworn on the Holy Bible, doth depose
and say as follows:
EXAMINED BY Me SIMON V. POTTER,
On Behalf of Petitioner Imperial Tobacco Limited:
Q- Mr. Brown, who do you work for?
A- I work for Imperial Tobacco Limited.
Q- And what is your position there?
A- I'm vice-president of marketing.
Q- And could you explain to the Court, Mr. Brown, just what
are the duties of a vice-president/marketing at
Imperial?
A- My responsibilities include the management of the
Marketing Division of the company, which includes the
Sales Department, Communications Department, Marketing
Strategy Department, Marketing Operations Department and
the Market Development Department. And I'm also, as an
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officer of the company, participate in the management of
the company.
And do your duties include anything in relation to the
future of the market for tobacco products?
Yes, it's within my responsibility to provide forecasts
to the company of our expectations of the future volume
of the tobacco industry and, within that, our own market
share and therefore our own volume for financial,
manufacturing and purchasing purposes.
And you've -- we've mentioned the word "marketing"; can
we break down for the Court what marketing is as far as
Imperial is concerned? You've already mentioned sales,
you already mentioned communications. Inside
communications, what would you include?
Our communications group is split into two (2)
subdivisions. One, in general terms, would be media
advertising and advertising creative; and the other
division within communications would be the sponsorship
group.
And you've just mentioned two (2) kinds of advertising.
Now, using your own language for it, Mr. Brown, you had
media advertising and advertising creative. What do
those two (2) things mean to you?
To us, creative is the message that is to be
communicated to our customer, and media is the device by
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which that is communicated, such as a magazine or a
billboard or any number of various media.
And who is -- and who is the man responsible at
Imperial, Mr. Brown, for marketing strategies and
objectives?
That's within my area of responsibility and we have
staff employees who do that.
And who is responsible for brand strategies, if there
are such things at Imperial?
Again, it's within the Marketing Division, so it would
be my responsibility.
And is there such a thing as advertising strategy at
Imperial?
Yes, there is.
And who is responsible for that?
That would be my responsibility as well.
And you mentioned media a while ago inclu -- is there
someone who is responsible for choosing the media in
which you appear?
Yes.
And who is responsible for that?
Well again, it's ultimately my responsibility.
And you mentioned sponsorship as part of your
communications responsibilities. Who is responsible for
sponsorship?
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That would be my responsibility as well, within that
same structure.
And what about, Mr. Brown, all the money that's required
for all of this? Who decides which dollars go where?
That would be my responsibility as well.
Now in these various areas of marketing, Mr. Brown,
which areas would you label as useful for communicating
with the consumers of your product?
Well, there's many forms of communication, all of which,
as I mentioned earlier, are within marketing. But
probably the most direct and the most immediate and the
most useful would be media advertising.
And are there other forms of communication to or from
the consumer?
Yes. While in communication with the consumer, we rely
very heavily on consumer research. That's the device by
which we understand what it is the consumer wants. And
then, once that information is gathered, we develop
products and strategies and communication plans and we
provide the products and the advertisements about those
products to the consumer. It becomes a -- well, it is
very much a two-way street with the consumer.
I'm sorry, what do you mean by a two-way street, Mr.
Brown?
Well, it's our belief that to be successful in a
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