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.::." 500-09-001297-910 .X- .'.x -X. '" (Zour i 'Al l l " ".::': ::::: 5::: :.1.: -:.:. • :.? Montrhal .v. ::::: ::::: iiiii :.:+:<<.:+:+:~<~+:~+:~+:.:~.:<~+:.:.:.:.:.:+:+:+:+:+:~+:+:.:.:.:.:.:+:.:.:.:+:.:.:.:.:+:+:+:+:.:+:.: .:.:.:.:.:.:+:+:.:.:.:+:.:.:~<.:+:~+:~<~+:~+:~+:.:.:.:~+:+: ::::: .:.:. ...'::: :.:.: BAKER, NUOLEMAN ~ LAMONTAG~E Me JAMES MABBUTT, e.~t. :... .v. [Me Roge~ £. Bake~, e.~.} P~oeu~eu~ de l'Appelan¢ .V..v. :i:i: '" ... P~oeu~eu~6 de l'Appelant Tour _rst ":':" v.- +.'. 1155, boul Ren4-L4vesque ouest 140, rue O'Connor :.'. :~5: Bureau 2720 17e 4tage .v. ::::: Montr6al (Quebec) Ottawa (Ontario) • :.:. .:.:. v.. T~I : (514) 866-6674 T41 : (613) 996-4425 ... ....::: . . ::::: 5::: PAUL EgRAIRE, E6q. Me CLAUPE JOYAL .'-:-: .v. P~oeu~eu~ de l'Appelant P~oeu~eua de l'Appelant "':" .v. X.." .v. 2, First Canadian Place Ministate de la Justice .v.'V" .:.:. Bureau 3400 du Canada ":':'.::. .v.~<': Exchange Tower, Box 36 Complexe Guy-Favreau v..'X" • "~:i: Toronto (Ontario) 200, boul. Ren4-L~vesque ouest ::::: .;.:. M5X 1K6 Tour est, 9e 4tage :-X • .':i:i'" T~I. : (416) 973-0927 Montr4al (Qu4bec) ':'.v. .v. H2Z lX4 .v. :-:-: T61. : ( 514 ) 283-4040 .:.:. .-:. • :.:. :-7. "" :i:i: • :i:i:.. Me,ASTER, MEZGHEN LER~ER t ASSOCI£S :......::::: • ":':.. IMe Colin K. I,~ui,g) IMe Ea,,l A. Che,~niak, e.,L.):...5::: • "" P~oeu~eu~ de l'intimge P~oeu~eu~ de l'intimge :...:"" • ".'. R JR-Macdonald Inc. RJR-MaePonald Inc. v.. .v. 630, boul. Ren4-L4vesque ouest Scotia Plaza ".":" • X- "+ :-:-: Bureau 700 40, rue King ouest :-:.: ..:. .'+ • :':" Montr4al (Qu4bec) 19e 6tage, Box 210 "-Z H3B 4H7 Toronto (Ontario) .:-:. • :.:. :... :.:-: T41. : (514) 954-3147 M5H 3Y2 ..'.:. ::::: T61 : (416) 867-3076 .'-X ::::: • ::::: .:.:. ::::: ::::: ::..:: :.z -:'." :::::.......... ,.~o,~,,~o ~o.o_o~,~,0o "' ~h ~mi~ ~2{{u lti fa d:um--- ,.~. , o,,oo,o~,,~ , o,oo~oo~: ,~,'~'" .~.~oo.~o, ....:....,...,... ":"" Monlr@al, Oc H2Y 187 :.'. • ..:: ..'.? ~Z.?X..~<.X.~[~.[~[~[~.X.?:~X.~.Z.Z~:~.~.Z.~X.~.X.Z~X~Z.~.?Z~X~.X~X.X~X+~.X~X~...~X.X~Z..~X~...~..X. Z.~.Z.X<~.:~.;.X~.X~Z.Z.~.?Z.Z.~.Z.Z.Z.:~?X.Z.Z.[~X~X.Z~.~.~.~:..Z.~.~
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.v. 500-09-001296-912 ::" ::.::" 500-09-001297-910 v.-':<" -X- ..... our " • :.:. :.:.: :." Montr6al v." • :.:. :.:.: :'X ':':" v.. HacKENZlE, GERIIAIS :.:-: i:i:i (Ne George~ R. Thiba~dea~} ::::: ":':" Paocu~teu~t,s de. l' intimge ":':" v.. :':': :.:.: RJR-Haei)onald Inc. v.. ::::: 770, rue Sherbrooke ouest :.'. Bureau 1300 :"" ::::: Montr4al (Qudbec) ::::: ::" H 3 A 1 G 1 ::::: ":':" T41 : (514) 842-9831 :':': " :i:i: :':': ::2 ::::: ":':'... OGILIIV RE~IALILT OSL[R, HOSKIN I HARCOURT ":':':... .:.:. {He Simon It. Potte~] {L~ndon A J. Bathe6 E6q.) :':': .v. {Hg Pie_~¢ Bignugnu) P~toca~.ea~t,S de l'intim~g :" ::::: ::::: :i:i: P,~oca~ear6 de. t'intimge Impe,tiat Tobacco LZd :':': Imperial Tobacco Ltd i, First Canadian Place :... :...::' 1981, avenue McGill College Box 50 ::.'v" ::2.. Bureau "1100 Toronto ( Ontario ) :.-.::::: :':': M 5 X 1 B 8 ":':" ..::::Montr6al (Qu6bec) .-<..- iiiii H3A 3Ci Tdl.: (4161 362-2111 • :':"T41. : (514) 847-4747 :.'. X.: -X. ::::: ::::: :.:.: .v. :.:.: BERNARd, ROY ~ ASSOCI£S 7:...~ ":':" (He Jean-Yue, Berna~td) .:.:. • :-:" P~tocu,'t~urs du Hi6 ~n cau6e. ::. • :.:- Palais de Justice .v. ":':" i, rue Notre-Dame est .v. Bureau 8 O0 X': .:.:. .:..'. :.:.: Montreal (Qu6bec) :..'-: ::::: H 2 Y 1 B 6 .':. v.-':':" T~I. : (514) 393-2336 :1":: .v. 4, Notre-Dame Street East :.'. • [.]- Suite 100 INC. Fax: (514) 866--4861 :':': Montreal, Oc H2Y 187 .v.
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500-09-001297-010 Montreal X-: En appel de deux jugements rendus le 26 juillet 1991, par .:.> .v. l'honorable juge Jean-Jude Chabot, de la Cour sup6r=eure, .v. .v. district de Montr6al. .v. .v. Nos: 500-09-001296-912 C.a.~. - 500-05-009755-883 e.s.N. ::': -X" LE PROCUREUR G~N~RAL DU CANADA .X. .v. APPELANT--Intim6 .v. ~.;.: ': - .v. .v. RJR-MacDONALD INC .v. .v.V" INTIM~E-Rcqu6rante :[::: ,' ". - e t - .X. .v. LE PROCUREUR G~N~RAL DU QUEBEC "X- ;:::: MIS EN CAUSE-Mis en cause .v. ::::: Nos: 500-05-001297-910 C.a.M. - 500-05-009760-883 C.s.M. LE PROCUREUR G~.N~.RAL DU CANADA APPELANT-Int im6 C o IMPERIAL TOBACCO LTD INTIM~E-Requ4rante -et- LE PROCUREUR G~N~RAL DU QUEBEC MIS EN CAUSE-Mis en cause DOSSIER C O N J O [ N T Volume V: pages 541 ~ 76I (D4positions)
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• '.-- 500-09-001296-912 .'.'- :.:-: 500-09-001297-910 ".:.: :.X o u r d 'A ::. :':': • :':- M o n t r e a I ::::: • :':" :i:!: :.:-:BAKER, Nffl)L/MAN g LAMOI4TAGI4E ~le JM, I[$ l~A88UTT, c.~[. v.. ":-:'... [~le I~ogea ~.. 8akea, c.a. } P~ocuae,~t de ,£'Appe£a~,t "'..... .v. .:.:. • ".'. P~ocu~eu~ de ,£'Appe£a~,t Tour Est ..v .v. :.:.: :::::1155, bowl. Ren~-L4vesque ouest 140, rue O'Connor .:.:. • :.:. :.:.: :.:.:Bureau 2720 17e 6tage :... ":':"Montr6al (Quebec) Ottawa (Ontario) ::::: :%. :%" :':':H3B 2K8 K1A 0G5 :.'- .:.:. .:.:. :':-:T~I. : (514) 866-6674 T~I. : (613) 996-4425 :.:-: ::::: :i:!: :":: PAUL EYRAIRE, E6q. ~e CLAUPE JOYAL .....:':': • ".'. P,~ocu,te-a de £'Appe~an.t P,~ocuaeu,~ de £'Appe£an,t .'.'. :::::2, First Canadian Place Ministate de la Justice .v. :::::Bureau 3400 du Canada ":':'... oo ::° • ':"Exchange Tower, Box 36 Complexe Guy-Favreau ":'." • :.:. :.':: • ::':Toronto (Ontario) 200, bowl. Ren4-L~vesque ouest ..'.:. ...-. :.:.: • :.:.M5X IK6 Tour est, 9e ~tage :... ::::: T61. : (416) 973-0927 Montr6al (Qu4bec) :...:" .v. H2Z lX4 .v. T~I. : (514) 283-4040 :.'. .:.:. .:.:. :::::I~cl.tASTER, I~IEIGHEI4 LERNER £ ASSOCI£S ::::: ":':"[~e Co£,L, K. I~uZng) (~le ~a,t£ A. Cke~n,Lak c.~. ) ::::: :.:.: ' :... :... P~ocuaeu,~,s de £'Zn.tZmC_e P,tocu,tea,t~ de £'Zn~timge ::::: .v. l~lR-l~acl~ona£d Inc. RJR-NaePoaa£d Inc. """ ":':" :i:!: :':':630, boul. Ren6-L6vesque ouest Scotia Plaza ... • :'F ".":" :.:-:Bureau 700 40, rue King ouest :.:.: • :':" Montr6al (Qu6bec) 19e 6tage, Box 210 :.'. .v. H3B 4H7 Toronto (Ontario) v.. .v. :':': • v.T~I : (514) 954-3147 MSH 3Y2 .v. iiii T~I.: (416) 867-3o76 :]iii .:.:. .:.:. • :.:. .:.:. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.:.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~~~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~~~.~.~.~.~.~.~° • :':" 4, rue Notre Dame Est "" INC. ~.,~.co.,e.,: ~s~) 8so-~86~ ::::: ::::: Montr,t'al, Qc H2V 1g/
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'" 500-09-001296-912 ::" .v. ".":" ::::: 500-09-001297-910 ::::: .v. .-<.: ... .~..'. Mon[r~a| .v. ..'..'. :... • .":':. MacKENl I E, GERI~AIS :"'.v. ....."" IMe Geo~tge,~ R. Thibaadeaul .'.'... • :.:- P,tocu,teu,t,~ de £' ,i~t,ti,,ge ::::: • :..'. RJR-MacOo~atd l,c. .;.:. ...: 770, rue Sherbrooke ouest -.. :.:.: Bureau 1300 .'.'. :':': Montr4al (Quebec) X." • :.:. .v. :':': H3A IGI :" • :.:. :... :.X T41. : (5141 842-9831 .X. X': :-" • :.'.. ,..: °°%° • ..:.: .':. ..... ::::: ":+ OGILVY RENAULT OSLE~, HOSKIN ~ HARCOURT .v. • ::.: .':. • :':'..... [Me. Simon V. Po,tte,t} [L~lndon A. 3. 8a,t,e~, E~q.} :::.': ;.:~: [Me Pie~r,te Bienveaa} P~oc.~ea~ de l'intimge :":... ;':': P~tocureu,'t,~ de l'intimg£ Impeaial Tobacco Ltd :" • :.:. .-:::: :':': Impeaia~ Tobacco Ltd i, First Canadian Place :.'- .v.'V"1981, avenue McGill College Box 50 :...:... :.:'-'2 Bureau ii00 Toronto (Ontario) .v.::" .v. Montr6al (Qu6bec) M5X IB8 .v. :.X H3A 3CI T~I. : (416) 362-2111 ::.':: • ".':" T4I : (514) 847-4747 ':':" :'X " .v. • :.:. %!: ::::: BERNARd, ROY ~ ASSOCI~S ".:::: ...:2: {Me Jean-Y~e.~ Be,~,,,,~d) .....'v" P,~ocu~teu~[~ du Mi6 en .v.'V" Palais de Justice .v. • :.:. %!: :<.: i, rue Notre-Dame est ;i;i: Bureau 8. O0 ::::: Montr4al (Qu@bec) :... :.:.'. • X. H 2 Y 1 B 6 v..<+ T61. : (514) 393-2336 ::.':" %!: • "- Suite 100 Phone: (514) 866-3565 :" [:::." Montreal, Oc H2Y 1B7 INC. Fax: (5141 866-4861 ~:: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~.:~~~~~~~~~~~.~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~.~~:~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~:~:~:~:~
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TABLE DES MATI~RES Vol. Page Le 21 septembre 1989 REPRESENTATIONS Vol. 1 - pp. 2 ~ 80 Le 25 septembre 1989 REPR~.SENTATIONS PAR Me POTTER Vol. 2- pp. 88-89 REPRESENTATIONS PAR Me IRVING Vol. 2 - pp. 90 ~ 121 REPRESENTATIONS PAR Me POTTER Vol. 2 - pp. 121 ~ 150 PREUVE DE LA REQU~RANTE RJR-MacDONALD INC. ~ L'ENQU~TE V 541 V 622 V 628 V 659 PETER HOULT Vol. 2 - pp. 151 ~ 223 En chef par Me Irving V 689
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541 CANADA PROVINCE DE QU~BE.C DISTRICT DE MONTREAL COUR SUPI~RIEURE SOUS LA PRI~SIDENCE DE L'HONORABLE JUGE JEAN-J-U'DE CHABOT, J.C.S. No • 500-05-009755-883 RJR-3IACDONALD INC. Requ&ante LE PROCUREUR G~NI~RA.L DU CANADA Intimd No 500-05-009760-883 IMPERIAL TOBACCO LI3IITI~E Requdrante LE PROCUREUR Gt~NI~RAL DU CAN.M) A Intimd 21 septembre 1989 - Vol. 1 COMPARUTIONS ' Pour la requerante R JR-MACDONALD INC. Pour la requ6rante IMPERIAL TOBACCO LIMIT~E M~ COLIN K. IRVING. M~ GEORGES R. THIBAUDEAU, EARL A. CHERNIAK. Q,C., M~ MICHEL A. PINSONNAULT, A.vocats SIMON V. POTTER. PIERRE BIENVENU, LYNDON A.J. BARNES, ESQ., GREGORY BORDAN Avocats MACKENZIE GERVAIS Procureurs OGILVY, RENAULT Procureurs Pour l'intimd LE PROCUREUR GI~NI~RAL DU CANADA M~ ROGER E. BAKER, Q.C., M' CLAUDE JOYAL, PAUL EVP~,IRE, ESQ., A vocats COTE & OUELLET Procureurs AUDIOTRANSCRIPT, - Division de Vilaire & Associ~s - St~nographes Officiels Court repotlers 4 est, Notre-Dame, Bureau 201, Montreal H2Y 1B8-- T~I.: 871-1219
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542 2 i0 15 Me PIERRE BIENVENU: Pour la requ~rante, Imperial Tobacco, Simon V. Potter et Pierre Bienvenu. Me ROGER BAKER: Nous sommes toujours dans Imperial. Pour le Procureur g~n~ral du Canada, Roger Baker, Claude Joyal et Paul Evraire. Me COLIN IRVING: Dans la cause RJR MacDonald contre le Procureur g~n~ral du Canada; pour la requ~rante, Colin Irving et Georges Thibaudeauo LA COUR: Et pour la Cour le juge Chabot. AUDIOTRANSCRIPT, Division de ~ierr~ V~[aire & A~soci~s Lt~e
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543 3 I0 15 2O 25 REPRESENTATIONS: Me BAKER: We're going to start with the "commune"? THE COURT: Whichever you want to start with. Me BAKER: If you have a copy of the proceeding in front of you, My Vous allez Lord, paragraph 12, on page 4 is an error. lire: "Malgr~ les deux (2) jugements ci-dessus mentionn~s, ces deux (2) requites n°ont jamais fair l'objet d'une demande de r~union en jonction des parties." Clearly there was an earlier one, and with your permission and that of my friends, I request it. THE COURT: It's a very similar motion than the one I'm... Me BAKER: Somewhat similar, yes. Same principle, same object, My Lord. So similar that I don't believe it requires a good deal of discussion. However, the arguments that Mr. Irving raised in the session in February against the granting of the motion no longer obtains. You summarized the arguments of our friends in your own judgement which you'll find in page.., in Tab 1 of the black book which has been given to you. You have ,4UDIOTR,4NSCRIPT, Division de Pierre Vi{aire & Associ4s
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544 4 i0 15 20 25 Mr. Irving saying that we were trying to drag RJR MacDonald into. the debate with Imperial before the Court of Appeal. That problem has long since been resolved. He said that the two (2) cases can't be joined because they were both not ready or in the same state of readiness which was the foundation, of course, as you know, of your own judgement. That no longer obtains, there is nothing in Appeal and both cases are equally ready. The third reason he gave, which you resumed at page 9 of your judgement, was that they were simply trying to stall the hearing of the two (2) cases. We're ready to proceed with both cases on Monday, My Lord. At page 12 of your judgement, you found that it was your inclination not to grant the motion "Ace stage"... "~ ce stade", and for the reason that they were both not ready. The law in 271 gives you a certain amount of discretion and latitude as you well know. The cases that you'll find in the black book, particularly Katz number 2, Silberstein in number 5, contained -- or any of the other cases -- contain anything particularly unique or unusual save, as you know, to support the proposition in 271 and the theories behind it. And in 270, where the cases are similar and where it's useful and reasonable in respect of the ends of AUDIOTRANSCRIPT, Divlsio. de Pierre Viloire & Associ~s Lt4e

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