Congressional Hearing Transcript: Cigarette Labeling and Advertising 1965 Hearings Before the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce House of Representatives Eighty-Ninth Congress Hr 2248 Hr 3014, Hr 4007, Hr 7051 Hr 4244 - April 6, 7, 8, 9, 13, 14, 15, and May 4, 1965 [Cigarette Labeling and Advertising 1965 Hearings Before the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce House of Representatives Eighty-Ninth Congress Hr 2248 Hr 3014, Hr 4007, Hr 7051 Hr 4244]

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Congressional Hearing Transcript: Cigarette Labeling and Advertising 1965 Hearings Before the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce House of Representatives Eighty-Ninth Congress Hr 2248 Hr 3014, Hr 4007, Hr 7051 Hr 4244 - April 6, 7, 8, 9, 13, 14, 15, and May 4, 1965 [Cigarette Labeling and Advertising 1965 Hearings Before the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce House of Representatives Eighty-Ninth Congress Hr 2248 Hr 3014, Hr 4007, Hr 7051 Hr 4244]

Date: 06 Apr 1965 (est.)
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CIUARUYP'1'1: LAll1:IdNU AND AIIVh.RTISINC-1!16ir WEDNESDAY, APRIL 4, 1005 I1oUs1: or It1:1911:FRN9ATIFI:P, CoNnil'11T:M ON IN9N:aN'1'A'1'P: ANII hOlll's11iN C1RmMr.aUR, 1Vash.ivlglovy D.C. '19ie commitlr,e met, pucsnanl. to atljotu'nmont, nt 10 n.m. in room "12:1, 12ayborn lfouse (llliee, Bnilding, Ifon. Oren ILu'ris (clLairaum) previdioR. . '19in (b1AlnarnN. 9'ho rotnmil.l.ee Icill room t.o ordor. Ia resaminC tliehrurialsoa namrrou~6illsoa Ldroliul,.:md odrrrlis- ol' ci'mnruilr:; nnd snclt relalr~l mallor:+, tcr. Ncill yrnet"d m itlt such :nsLioaS ns t.he mtvubers tu;t,y Lncr or Ilir lllroirmnn nf 16o Fnlor:tl ~'nrade Comuiissiuu. hlr. H.;gena, ditl von have nay fnrt6er questiotns? Mr. Horr:ns of ''eaas. ] es hir. l'hairman, I do have tplile n few u'hich I t-liialc o0~~61. Eo bn spe~led oal, in 16n rrconl, and I. icill prorval :u spralily a.s vossible. NIr. 1)izon, tv11h rrlnl inn In ILn l lml innlc plaee ia l9/t4, ahonl, ttl:inh we were talking yt:slmdap, rnnld l'oa give wo :l very brief nnJ a e~ryY yoielc rmldnten nf 16n pnorrdure Iha.t .~~ns rnllotct~d Il-om 16e Limr, nf t.he cread.io/t of Lho (lrnutuissiou up uulil tbis rhnnhe4 1Chal. 1 mnnn by, LlLO qursliao is Ihnl[ yuu )Vnoltl gel. a nnmplaint aultl tnn wadd srhalnln hearinRz and mal:c a dMrrminal.ion on somrLhinR 16nt, had Luppraed. Cadd 3'ou do 1.6a1, Mr. 1)isnn, tel_v LrietlV. STATEMENT OF PAUL RAND DIXON, CIIAIRMAN, FEDERAL TRA11E COMMISSION; ACCOMPANIED BY J. V. BUFFINQTCN, ADMINIS- TRATIVE ASSISTANT TO TIIE CIIAIRMAN; JOHN WHEELOCK, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR; CIiARLES SWEENEY, CHIEF OF DIVISION OF FOOD AND D1tU(I ADVERTISING OF BUREAU OF DECEPTIVE PRACTICES; AND FRED DOWNS, ATTORNEY OF BUREAU OF DE- CEPTIVE PRACTICES, FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION-Resnmed nfl. I)tYON. 'I'6o ordiuarv prncetLtres oP llro Conauis4inn vclLirlt tee, srll ase? i11r.NtHns¢enNl'esns. S'as,air. Mr. Uir~~N. 1 fNtn rercivod a cntaplainlt or on onr own observal.ion obvrrvcd a slalemrut or Lllo fnilure to ms.ke nA stldemeab in advv.rlising if wn 6s.d rrnsNut tn Ixtlinvn IhalU it, Acas viohd.ive o f 1.6n Inw nud it woal[~ ho in I.he public interest W do so .vo would have it investigaled if nr~'rvs;lrv. By lhis I umau rve wifl inveslil!ato to tyro 'loint of deler- miniu~ if lt~e ~eero going lo rhulleuL.e it.; 1hal. wo `vould L:rve rvnsn lu tvc roold carry t he btn'den of pronf.

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-rst nnzuU , 11_)J,4 11 )T C 0 NTI; NI'S C(IAfMI'1TI9R ON INTIUILSTATV. AN11 Pr)ILNION COUAIhIIt('17 OIt1:N )IAltltlN Arknuw.n, t'hni,axnn IL\Itl.la tl. S1.1(IUKiIN Wrsl \'Iralnla WILLIA\I L. SI'it1NQ1i1L lllInuln \Ydla'I.NItOtiWIUt.9'rxnx .I.AR'1IIUItYUl/NrU]R,tLllfornln SAMnFILN PIl11:IniL Mnrylnnd S,\k111111,L 1n]VINM,rrblo '1Vr1111191r'I 11. M.\CININALIr pnunnehu,:cttx .1NIIIIF:It NICI 4NN, Minnew:ht JOI]N IAI/tL1N, likinhantn ilAfl'19N17S KI+,1'llf, Mnnaochnxeltn LN:O {C. U'RIIIRIe, N..r Yurk \VIL1,.11tl1 S CIIItTIN, 1'ennaylvnln .1rrI1N li. VuNN. Cnllllnnla 01dNNN I'UNNIN(11fAM, Nehraxka .It111N P. I/INNYa.I. tllehlgnn JAMN.4'1'. 11110Y1llLL, North Curollun fA1:1.0. Illlll]uNH, Rlorldn .L\FiltS IIAIIVPa', Michigan p111tACN It. Kt)IINRr:AY, North CnrotL,n 9'Irl LKN] LAKTRR, KenlnckY L1l1NItlL YAN 111:M¢LIN, Cellfornin ]IUWAnf)1i. CALLAWAY, Georgia J. .1. ruaa.n:, Puzna 1rl11tll It. ItUONRY, ]'ennnylvnnln JOIIN H. MIInYiIY, Ncm York DAVID Nl. SA'ITICIlM11C1.1r III, V1rRln1 UANIF.L J. IIONAN, Illlnole J.OLIVA I11/tYB, New Ilampnhire JAMES A. kfecKAY, aeorgia JOIIN J (71LLIOAN, Ohio CKAnLRS P. MARNBLRY. Kentucky J011N BELL WILIdAM9, bllsxlsalppl W. D. WILLIAN9ON, OICrk KnnNOrn J. PArNTSn, A.A/efmtE Olerk ProJcAr/onnl 6tnp ANnnew STNVnnnox JnAAN N.7denacn, Jr. KnOT IInnLIIAnVr WILWAN J. DIXON H )Ivarings bcld oll-- r.r. Aprilli.196fi_.____.. ---____._ I April7,A)g5_____.- ______----- _------ ..---- .----------------- 01 Apri18,1965------- _____. ------------- 80 AprilU,1U65------- _-------- ---------- ._._-------------- _ lll April 13, 1065------------ _________.._.----- _------ _.---------- 221 Apri114,1U65___._ _________.--------- 307 A1nil17i, IOfi5____________ _____._.337 Itloy 4, 11165__._ 121 '1'ext llf- 11.1t 2318 ___------ .___ -_-_ ----- _._-_. 3 11.11. 31114_. . .___. _____ .___. _.----- 4 11.1i_ 4667__.______--------- ..----- .---- .--------- ._.----- -. _ 6 11.11_4?44.__._._...___.. __ ..----- ._7 11.11..711:i1___________ llrlmrt nf__ Unnunrrcc Ucpnrimtnt on 11.1t. 31114, 11.1t.. 411117 and 11.1(. 411I4_ ._ 14 Iic:dtlt Educ:ttiou,nuJ l\'rlfarr IhpuXltoclrtol:lt.lt. JI/I~1, 1L1t.4214, auA1l.lt.41)1)7__ _______ __----- ___---- _________.. ------- 10 Ju56ir.e. Unpnrtrncnt on ll.lt.. 31114, 11,11. 41/67. nad 11.11. 124~1.__ __ 17 Tratunry Ucpm~t:nel:ton il.1t.31114_. ___. __ ______ 17 Bhdotnent of_- ,_Aocrhach, I )r. Osuar, nenior tnedicnl invtsltigntoq Vetcraux Adminis- trntion Iloxpitnl, Mn.qt Or:tllgn, N.J.--------------------- ISUUn, Prnuk Tt., prof(w;or nf induNt.riul ndminiutrntion, I'orduc ________ ___ ____ ____ ______ Uron'IJrn, It . Alrxmtt~cr, prnfc:>yor of ntntiNticN, Unlvcrnity of /lhicago_ IhJlinRlnu J. V, nrlmiuixirntive oveietltut to lho Chnirnlnn, Tedcrnl 250 401 393 'CFadn Cu:tllnievion _ - 3f), 61, tltl Chclf,llou.l'r;ulk,n Itrpr,wulnllvcin (rnRrrvn flrm tho Slotr of I(nntnrkc_. iCt Crinny, \4'illi:uu J. h1, Profenvor ufmarkcting n.nd nxttorinte Ilonty lirndunle. SchtNd of Iinniwsy A:hninintnrtiml, klia.hir!ml Rlntr (Inivcraity__._____-___._._____ _._....___.... ----- afrR ,,..-Ualrymplc, 1)r. Willnrd, Airrctor nf onivernity hcitlt,h nnrvicca, PriuculrnrUnivernil.y_._._. --__..___.___ __.______._._____ 202 Uizou, Ilon. Yanl limtd, Chninnnn, Fadnrnl'rrnrlo Cornminaion__ 36, 61,111) I)oN'ns, Fred, nttnntce, Iillrcnu uf Drenpl.ive 1'rnet.ierrt, Federnl'1'rnJc Conuuinniou_____.------ _ .......... ----- _________.____ L36,61,1)0 hllcohngnn, '1hrodnrc. Acting Asnintnnt, ('cncrnl UtNna:4 for Legin- Inl.iuu, 11rpartlnent of llcnlih, 1:dorM.imr, and Wclfiwr..___. __ 111, 15R Piuu, llon. 1'utJ A., n 11cVrcnenlnt(vc iu Cougrew+ froot tlln Sled.c nf w York__---- ________. .--------- _------------- _- ___.._.- 1R Natinmd lutcrngtmcy Cocncil on Fmoklnfr chairmnn %ISmcrnou , , Ilenlth -_------ -.---- __ ______..____.- .--____. '~21 /7rny, Ilotclnnn, chuinmul of thc honrtl, Il, d. IicyrlolJ.9'1'tdutcrn On_ _ 881 IIolLnnn,.foscph, CignretW AJvcrLiniuR Codc_____. __-____ ..-__ 421 lfont, 1)r. Daniel, (Jtirf, Sfn;cfltl Prolacts 8ection, Cancer Control 1'rngrlun, Pnblic llcnlth Bnrvioc, 1)epnrtrncnt of Ilonlth, Kdnrntinlr, nndWelf:trc---------- __ _ ____ ______.- __ 111,158 IIuuAIc,Y, Ur. Jrtntcs, Asnisl.nul. Bnrgrrnr licncrnl for /)pmnlions, I'uhlic lhnllh FL1vicn, III.pnrtnn.nt of llenlth, h'rlucntkm, luld Wt4Ltrc. . 111, 1511 I~onmp;n.y, llon, ilarucc it., :t Rrprrsulnl.ivc in 1'oulU':-c9 from Ihr tilutr nf NuHh ('nrulinn .. . ..-.. ... 146 1.unuu, Ilou. Allul:, n Itrpr:nrulnlit'c io ('ougrcns frum I.hr Plnle nl Nnrlh 1'mrolinn . ... . :12

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CIUARETTE LABELING ANI) ADVERTISINC-1965 FRIDAY, APRIL 9, 1965 Ilnl*9aOE 11EPRE8ENTA'17Vr.s, CeMb11TPF.P. oN INTERBTATE AND FORF.H3N (~.o11L110IICky Waahington, D.L', The committee met, pursuant to recess, at 10 a.m., in room 2125, Rayburn Ilouse Office Building, lion. Oren Harris (chairman) pre- siding. The CIfA1RacAN. The committee will cometo order. As we resume the hearings on the various bills having to do with cigarette labeling and advertising, we are pleased tu have with us today I)r. LRthor L. Terry, Smgeon Genernl of the Public ]lenlth Service. Doctor, I am sure we have caused you sonic inconvenience in the last few days. We regret that we have, but we are glad we could finally get. to you and we will be glad to have your st.ntement. STATEMENT 0F DR. LUTHER L. TERRY, SURGEON UEBERAL, PUB LIC HEALTH SERVICE; ACCOMPATJIEIt BY DR. DANIEL HORH, CHIEF, SPECIAL PROJFCTS SECTION, CANCER COHTROLPROORAM, PUBLIC HEALTH SEI(VICE; DR. JAMES HUBDLEY, ASSISTAliT SURGEON GENERAL FOR OPERATIONS, PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE; AND THEODORE ELLENBOGEN, ACTING ASSISTANT GENERAL COUNSEL FOR LEGISLATION, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, EDUCA- TION, AND WELFARE llr.'CEnnv. 49mnk you, Mr. Cbailnnan. I might say in Ihatt respect that being as close as I am, the inconLenience has actually been miui- mal. I suPpose tlle anxiet.y has been the principal problcm. Mr. Cluurnian, I wmdd like to iul,roducn the stalf pcuple Ichnm II have with me. TbeCunranlAN. Wewillbepleasedt.ohaveyoudoso. Dr. Tr.nnY. On my immediate right is Mr. Theodore Ellenbogen who is Acting Assistant qeneral Counsel for the Derartment oit Health, Education, and Welfare. On my immediate left Is Dr. James M. IIRndley, who is Assistant Surgeon Oeneral for Operatimis of the Public Ilralth Service in my imnediato office, and then on m,y far left is Dr. 1)aniel Horn, who is Chief of the Special lhojerls Sec- tion of om Division of Chronic I)israses. Dr. IIorn is a Ph. D. psychologist who has had special training and long experiencx in the field of statistical studies. Mr. Chairman and members'of the committee, I mn grntcfnl for the opPmtunity to appear before you today on behalf of the Department. ,li

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6180-9£0111 J1a7terceIlt] ~ Tutal Toui Fnrrun z Wt<;nems: as worded on rorms a. it, C sample a, B. CI conversc Form C Form 5 Forn.i col.1 WI.? rpl.9 c01.4 a,l. s owl.n 15. 1 9 :,. {1.:' N _ , 1_.1 50.i' 3D.B i 6.: 8 lii 59.6I 61.!' ?9.] '?9.: 10.i 9,6 i DIHtlEnW p6iWe2n fa^Y. bl5i 63.?' -1.8! - -13 27.2 ~ M.4 ' 66.4 t1.11 -1.0 Ir,. d.:a 1cernN[nt mOney rhOUlI be syen: oC re9ParCh to .1. rv1Jp v rvallc S+le m;~mote+ .l~ree._...._-.---- ..................._._._.....-._..... D/sazree.._. _-____._.._..--___.. _ __-_ ..............__.. ]o oPrman..__ ...---_.---_---- ....---------- ._ _-.. 17. TLe swn~ine of :~isurev[es sharttl in, ailoae~i in /ern plues . ncm:: . eeree ---------- .---------- _ _--_._ - .-..._.__ Iit,axree..._......_-_..__..... _. _..__. _...._._ _. ._ So o9~nion ............._. __------------- .-------- _-...:p .. 18. SotGtne snouic be dnne about ci¢arettes 1^.t[l ine clcsre[u cl.wn(ac[urere oe pren a reasonabia amount of tvme mne vp wnh a sakr cf4acet[e:= ~, D~ce-._.---- __---- .-------- ---------- .------- .. '. Aerer-...__..-.....__...__.....___..._...--__._. - \ o oPmtun._.. -_-......._ _ . _ ..................... . . 19. Seji:e c:euw[tes through cl6nrette macaines slrould not Le II a£a:uttheloR- ~ Blsa¢ree ................................- e ~ ; eree . ------ ------------------ -------- -.-..__ ~.~ M^-ion ............. ._......_....___..___..__. ; ]0. TIW Focurv ~:r~aamen[ °hauLf mntmue its lxaetlce of . taaseca onte suytpr[ for tbe f:rzmer, .ten.e_.----------------- ------- _ ...............'"_-.-..-I Tsa_rcc...-_---------------- ...._._ --------------- ------------------------ oa~si:~n__._.-_.__--__....-._.. __.------- .........'. :acer+uln3 Jwuld Im 5[aqped cocmlereip: ~.. . _ .. ............... ...... _ -....................__ . .,. J::~ _____-.___-_...-___--...__--_-_-._-_.___.__._-_-____..__.- _'.~ [l:e~ aro nmr. ~ ..._. Tuses on~;::.rvt'.os ehooid be umcb u1l:her_ .1-::e--------'----...----------_ . ............"----iNsazrre.__ ...............__ ._.. So orlman_.._..__.___.....___._....__....-..._____ 9J, 7ye wll:pe af clgaettes should rw( IR sroppea vomPletely: Jl..~ _ . . . . . .. . . . . .. .{TF!' .. _ . . .... .... .... . S<: o1nmun.---------------------------- _--------- ._...__ J. i ~ ^o: :,)I -A.4 31.n ' 61.0 311 ! 'v Sb.: 58.'. 35. 4 : 326 5.9 I 9.: 5S4 ', .i64 35.0i 3L3 . 9, 6 ; 9.1 M.; ' _.9 '. C; here !ur:n D amtemen[ was the conrerv of [R t on forms A. H. C r.re :um~e~lis:[vee ° lndicatri esme uorNVF: on sll ~ forme. µ+reen~~r:s s:re rrs~ned for pur[wises of.u:;unslwn ot comp[[uun, ~ : 'c. 9 ! -y. 9 53.4 36.' 9.9 L 87.o i 31.6 [ 1 i a4 6. 36.5 : 43,o i 13.1i 11.9 I 4^ T ~ 19.3 ! :3.3 . 1^_.1 ' iN.4 I 43.1 ' 411.a i i9.9 &9. :.6O.ll 5U~1 i:.l' 38.i 1 Y.0 £.91 -2U ~L1: +9 }1.3 -3.n1 '21 ~ 1.d -i.l -ii.5 -.d -.3 - -l.J - -L0

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46 CIGARETTE LARELING AND ADVERTISIVG-1985 Mr. Dixow. Mr. Chairman, with some slight comments we favored really-tNe thought both bills would accomplish the remedial pur_ pose we sought. Senator Magnuson's bill, S. 559, this bill would ot:ly apply to the labeling, the warning that would go upon the Libel and the bill would be required to be enforced in the constitu- tional courts by various U.S. Attorneys General and U.S. district attorneys. The other bill was Senator Venberger's bill. The CuatuaAs. It did require the warning for tar and nicotine_ too? Dfr. Dtsos. It did, sir, and we stggested that that not be included in the bill, and I- The CrIAmxAV. If that was your opinion then, how do you justify your recommendation here thr morning that the Fino bil], which would require that information, as I understand it- Mr. Dtso.. I did not comment on the Fino bill. The Cxiutua~ (continuing). Whereeu-the other bill did not- Mr. Dlso-,. I did not Ixv ;utcQting about that, sir, in my report- But we take the same position as to that section as we took in the Senate, and I arn verv happy for your calling that to my attention because it is the view of the Commission that it would be better not to include this. or include in the statute this requirement. As of this moment the existing authorities that we studied before we is,ued onr rule, the basis of our rule, scientific opinions and authorities that ~,e reviewed, there was no certaiutv as to tchio.h if any of the=e :nbst, m°es could cause or even mac c:inse cancer, and there also was pointed out in Ihis document, this report, that there was no estaibli_hed moderation, vou might say, of what would he a safe number of , i~arettes for one to smoke, or lecel of content of any snbstance in aun- rignrette and ar for that reason in our statement we. specifica lly- - Tlte CtrursnAs. I.et me cLtriC_c What I did sa,y. Probably I miZht hace ocecteppetl it a little bit. AVhat ti-ou lied reference to, that you liked the enforcement procisinna tin H.R }344 better than tirou di,{ 301 t. Mr. DL`aS-, Yes, sir. I did nor nnderstand pon, Mr. Chairmin. 'The C'x+tnxA.. You preferred the enforcement procedure under ILR. 424-1-- Mr. DLSO.. Yes, sir. The Ctr.itsir.AN- (continuin¢). Than yon did for the _lttornev General. ~ Mr. DtYox. `I'ell, that is becatt=e it wnnhl leave it to the Fedet;tl Trs;de Comrnission. The Crr ata.r3N. Umler H R3111 4. \Ir.DrsaN-. Ihatisootret it. '1'heCtt.tmxaN. AT!-.Strner- \Ir. S,r.~nr:r.ieF. I hati e no qu^.srions. The CaotucutAs. Mr. Yomzoer. AIr.Yocsr.r,u. Tlranktiou.,AIr.Chainnan. I was not snre, Jfr. Di_von, what you meant when )ou said thar the Cr-mmission .ca= a pliable agencv. Mr. DrsoN-. I think one of the pruposes of the Con~:ress in e- ~tb- lishing the Federal Trade Commission as an independent regttlutorv body as its arm to help carry out the Conlaress' duty to regmdste CIGARETTE LABELING AND ADVERTISLNG-1965 47 cotDmerce in interstate conunerce, under the specific language of the statutes, was the full realization that different from a constitutional court 1~here all matters are taken to an appointed judge who knows nothing about the controversy that is coming up, when something is brought to him. If it is good pleacling and he can see that there is a basis, that is, a statutory basis for the charge, he will hear it and make a decision, whereas at the Federal Trade Commission the Comnmissioners .tere presumed, by the stwiggermg of their appoint- ments and their ;crvices, to acquire a bit of expertise. Then the Commission also, different from the constitutional court, receives complaints from the public, institutes tnxtters on its own eapertise, «-etghs them, and if they are found to be in the public in- terest, pcoceecs under its own procedt.tre=_ looking tot.atd ultimate issttance of a cease-and-desist order. But also ba=ic, written into the law by the Congress itself in sec- tion o(b) of the act is this languae : The Commission may at any time after notice and opportunity for hearing reopen. atter. modif5, or set aside in whole or in part any report or order made or issned by it under this section ~vhenrver in the opinion of the Commission conditions ot fact or of law have so changed as to require such action, or if the public interest shall so require. So CongtesS it;elf anticipated that to make this agency pliable, so that von would not liave tu go back and pass a new statute or start. a new proceeding. The Commission upon its own motion can do this. Mr. Yoc.at;n. You had no intention of uang pliable as meaning that yau are easily convinced. Mr. Dtsov. I Irope that-I ulwar5 try myrelf, sir-I can answer for mvself-bnsed upon my ri:uning and eeperience to carry ont my statntorv obligation1, and, Congre,sman Fnrnslev. I come from a tobacco State. too.=ir, Tennessee, Mr. F.~rt~st.eY. A fine State. Air. Drxos. But I atill took an oath to enf;;rcc Ihe Federrl Trnde Cnmmis=ion Act, and so I try to do that, too, sir. SIr. Yurscu:r.. One other question. If the qne~.tion of smoking was turned over to the Food and Drur a= some ha': e indicatrd in their bill that N+ould not alter the right of your C ommi~°ion to still super- vise and regmlate the advertising. Mr. Dr.os. `Ce would not so interpret anything in any of these b1ll=, .s1T, 'Ir. Yorsc,eR. Thank vou. Mr. DTSov. I v: ould noint out to you. of cour=e. their procedures are quite d;tF rent from onr,If you ~could pa=s this bill, the Udall bill, (.n r_ res=mirn T'dall , basic approach, when the_v-nnder the terms of that bill--found a viojation or thouaht there Ncas a viola- tion, they would seize the product, nnd then thev would go through a constituhonL`ll court. You are back into that ririditv ngain, I sac to you, sir. Still with resnect to the advertisilw we wonld still be left free and responsihle for it inst as we are todac. The nrrr.. 1=ions of the Food. DrrtR. and Cosmetic Act gices them that resPonsibilit}- over labe7ing, br:mtlin^ and l;tbelir.t*. Tt leo.ve==pecificallv. with respect to adver- tisin_ the responsibilitv to the Federal Trade Commission. So we live n'ith thiskinrl of a division evet-v dav, sir. ' Mr. Yocsr,rR. 'Phank pou. The Cfl_atRINIAN. Afr. Rogers.

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10 CIGARETTE LABELIlYG AND ADVER'PISINCY--1985 PREEHP41oF Scc. 7. No caution statement with respect to smoking and health other than specified herein shall be required on any package. .i\"o caution atatement wfth respect to smoking and health ahall be required in advertising for cigaretteo. packaged in conformity with the labeling provisions of this Act, l:al.[RAL PEFJLTr SECa 8- Any person who violates the provisions of this Act ahall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall on conviction thereof be subject to a 8ne of not more than $10,000. rtvJUNeTmF r4OUEEet4Ge Sr.o. 9. The several district courts of the U nited States are invested wit.h juris- diction, for cause shown, and subject to the provisions of section 381 (relating to notice to the opposite party) of title 28, to prevent and restrain violations of this Act upon the application of the Attorney General of the United States ucting through the several United States attorneys in their several dlstricts. CIGARETTES FOR EYFONT Sec. 10. Cigarettes manufactured, imported or packaged (a) for export from the United States or (b) for delivery to a vessel or aireraft, as supplies, for con- sumption beyond the jnrisdiction of the internal revenue laws of the United States shall be exempt from the requirements of this Act: Prortided. That such exemptions shall not extend to cigarettes manufactured, lmpnrte( or packaged for shipment to United States military vessels or shore-based activities wherever such vessels or activities may be located. eEPARAatLITY SEC. 11. If any provision of this Act or the application thereof to any person or circumstances is held invalid, the other provisions of this Act and the appliea- tion of such provision to other persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby. EPSECTIVx DVTa Sec. 12 This Act shall take effect one hundred and twenty days after the date of its enactment. DEPARTMEFT OF HEALTH, EDUCATION. AND WELFARE, 13on Waahdnyton, April 6, 1965. . Osaft HAasla, C'hairman, Committee rm Interstate mW Foreipn Commerce, House of Repreaentat4vea, l9ashtnpton, D.C. DRwa Ua. CHAmxex: This letter is in response to your request of February 15 and 18, for reports on II.R. 3014 (to be known as the Federal Cigarette Label- ing and Advertising Act) and H.R. 4244 f to be known as the Cigarette Labeling Act). (We assume that H.R. 3014 is intended to supersede H-R. 885, by the ,ame slonsoq (in which we were asked for a report on February 10.) This report is also applicable to H.R. 4007, which Ls identical with H.R. 3014 and is included along with that bill and H.R. 4244 in the announcement of your forthcoming hearings. I. DESCRIPTIOV OF nILLa H.R. 3014 and H.R. 4007 would make it unlawful to manufacture, import, or package cigarettes for domestie sale or distribution, or for shipment to U.S. military vessels or sbore-based activities wherever located, unless the package (deflned to include any pack or box, carton. or container in wlilch cigarettes are ef'fered or supplied to consumers) bears the statement "Cantion: f igarette Smnk- ing May be Hazardous to Your Health." The bill prescribes, in terms discussed below, the type size and placement of the required statement on the label. No regulatory agency would be charged with enforcement of the bill but uctions for injunct8on by the Attorney General acting through the U.S. attorneys would lie aod the violation would be a misdemeanor subject to a fine up to $10,000. CIG.IRETTE LABELI;>;`G A-D ADCERSISLtiG-1965 11 The bills would forbid any Federal agency from requiring any additional cautionary statement on packages labeled in conformity with the bill and would deny to the Federal Trade ComtuL=sion authority to require that advertisements for cigarettes packaged in conformity with the bill include health-hazard warn- ings, although in other respects the authority of the Federal Trade Commission with respect to false or misleading advertisements of cigarettes is stated to be un- aaected. In addition, the bills. in section 7 headed "Preemption" and apparently intended to be applicable at State and local levels, preclude any requirement for a health-risk warning in cigarette labeling other than that specified In the bill and any health-risk warning requirement for advertising for cigarettes labeled in conformity with the hill. H.R. 4'.44 would deem cigarettes to be misbranded unless each consumer pack- age (whether sold individually or in a carton or case) has printed on it the nicoHne and tar content of the total number of cigarettes In the package, and the words'Waruing-Contenta May Be Dangerous to Health." The bill would make commerce in, or manufacture for commerce of, ulisbranded cigarettes nn- lawful and deem it to be an unfair method of competiti,m and unfair and decep- t.ive practice under the Federal Trade Commission Act, which would be ap- plieable to violations of the provisions of the bill. In emmection with vesting administrative responsibility for regulation of cigarette labeling in the Federal Trade Commission, the bill would authorize the Commission to canse inspectlona, analyses, tcsts. and eaaminalions to be made of any cigarettes which it has reason to believe fall within the prohibitiou of the bill and to cooperate with Federal State, and local government agencies and with othera on matters re- lated to the purposes of the bill. II. DIHCU9aIOF '1'he basic objectives of these bills-fair warning of health risks to the pro- spective consumer of cigarettes-a"re objectives that this Department strongly supporte- The report of the Surgeon General's expert Advisory Committee on Smoking and Health, which has been accepted by this Department, concluded, on the basis of "prolonged study and evaluation of many lines of converging evi- dence;" that "Cigarette smoking is a health hazard of sufficient importance in the United States to warrant appropriate remedial action" (p. 33), a conclusion with which we fully agree- Summaries of some of the major findings and conclusmns (of the Advisory Committee and of this Department's existing and proposed activ- ities in the field of smoking and health are contained in our report to you, dated June 22, 1964. on eight bills relaking to cigarettee and other smoking products. The Surgeon General of the Public Health Service appeared and testiHed before you on June 23, 1964. Acting upon the call of the Advisory Committee for "appropriate remedial action." the Federal Trade Commission, after hearings, issued its trade reglda- tion rule of June 22, 1904, requesting that, in connection with the sale, offering for sale, and distribution in "commerce" (as defined in the Federal Trade Commis- sion Act) of cigarettes, all advertising and every puck or other containers in which cigarettes are sold to the consuming public, disclose "clearly and promi- nently ' that cigarette smoking is dangerous to health and may cause death from eancer and other diseases." While originally made effective January 1, li)O:i, with respect to labeling Rnd July 1, 19(i.F. with respect to advertising, the Federal Trade Commission, ss your committee is aware, has at your committee's request also deferred the eHtr.tlve date Df the labeling requirement to July 1 in order to give your committee an opportunity to consider legislation on the snhject. This Department, as the major Federal agency charged with the protection of the public health and as the agency responsible for the administration of the Food, Drug, and Cneuuetic Act, the Federal Hazardous Substances Labeling Act, and other consumer protection legislation, believes that labeling and advertising should, in general, scrve not only as a medium of Identi0cation and market pro- motion of a product, but should, In the interest of honesty and fair dealing, neither mislead nor fail to give the consumer the information concerning the product that he needs in order to make an informed decision. This is especially so where the product Ims a potential for harm, and all the more so where ebil- dren and young people are involved. We do not share the view of those who assume that, since the health risks of smoking have been widely publicized, no useful function would be served by ln- clading an appropriate reminder of those risks in information to the consumer.

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2 CIGARETTE LABEi.i_,C' .1~D AD1-ERTISIDIG-1985 Pursuant to this request the Commission promptly met and agreed to postpone the effective date of its order as applicable to labeling to July 1, 1965. I want to take this occasion to compliment the Commission for its willingness to cooperate with the cornmittee. I fully realize, as we all know in our experience, that these ir,gttlatory commissions have broad and imQortant jurisdiction. The Congress, of necessity, gives them jurisdiction, and sometimes I cannot help but think that prob- ably, in my opinion at least, some of these commissions attempt to reach beyond the x-upe of whatt was intended. Because of this, it ap- pears to me a very good procedure to have this kind of cooperation, and I am gratified thatt the Commission so readily agreed. Mr. C)ltairman, I complilnent you for it and want to thank you for it. Mter all, you are an arni of the Congress, and any action of yours is the result of Congress setting up your agency for a given purpose, a purpose that this L`ongtess cannot actually, ?rom a practical view- polnt, accomplish itself through legislation. Recognizing the importance and the emotions that go with a problem of this kind, I think ,vou are to be commended for your willingness to cooperate and give an opportunity for these matters to be heard in the usual and regular way. Sow, since that time, there has been some octfvitv in;ome of the State legislatures, as I understand it, designed to deal with the advertising of cigarettes. Proposals have been made in addition that manufacturers of cigarettes voluntarily refrain from advertising (heir products on radio and television. It is also noted that a grant has been made to the 1merican Medical _Lssociation of about $10 rnillion to conduct researcil into medical probletns associated wit11 the use of tobacco. Appropriations have been requested by the executive branch of the GoI-erttment for funds to conductt an educatiunal prograni with respect to smOktltg. Our responsibilities make it important that we do look into these yuestions, not only becattse of the impact on interstate commerce, but also because it is contended that this problem vitally affects the public health of our country. The Surgeon General's report last year stated that cigarette smoking is a health hazard. Some have challenged the statement. Tobacco is manufactured in 21 States. There are over .500 industries in which nearly 100,000 people are employed in 30 States engaged in the manu- facture of tobacco products. There are 1.5 million businesses in this country that share in the tobacco trade. In 1963 there were T 0 million American who bought tobacco products at a cost of some $8 billion. Over $2 billion of this sum went to the Federal Government in taxes, nnd over $1 billion went to State governments and municipalities. So this probletr] does have far-reachin~ consequences. It is there- fore our intention in resuming these bearings to carry out what the rnmmittee intended to do last cear: nameh, to develop fully this record, and to give the committee the r,ppottanity to ta.e whatever actinn, if anv, it rlesires to take in this field. We thereforee intend to go into all these problems, giving full op- portunitc for the facts to be developed for the record. I.vant to state that Qie hearings last ycar will be incorporated in the record by rrference. The bills that are pending, some of them sim- ('IGARETTE LABELItiG A-\D ADVERTIBINCr--1985 3 itar to certain bills that we had before us last year before the coin mitLee. will be included in the record at this point, and any and ~11 ageney reports that we have received will likewise be included in the d.reeor (The bills and docnments referred to follow :) tH.$- 2248, 89th Con6. lat aeawl A BILL to amend tLe Feder p F able [o nm g DroAU 2x Act ea ae tu make that A<t Re it enacEed by the Senate aad House of Representattves of the United States of America In Crrngresx assembled, That section 201 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act. (21 U.S.C. 321) is amended by adding at the end thereof the following: '(v) The term'smoking product' means any cigarette, made with tobacco or any other substance, cigar made with tobacco or other substance, or tobacco or any other substance intended for a~> ~gmietic pACt is further amended by Sec. ^ The Federal Food, Drng, inserting immediately after chapter VI the foll.ua-Sng new chayter: IIdPLFR vI1-Q>toRiRo PBOnIICra "C "dDt1L1EDA'fED sM08LNa YnonIICra --PEC. 651. A smoking product sbull be deemed to be adulterated- "(1) if it bears or contains any poisonous or deleterious snbstanee which may render it injurious tn users under customary or usual conditions of use; "(2) if it consists in whole or in part of any filthy, putrid, or decomposed substance; "(3) if it has been prepared, packed, or held under tmsanitary conditions whereby it may have been contaminated or whereby it may have been rendered injurious to health; or "(4) if its container is composed, in whole or in part, of any poisonous or deleterious snbstance which may render the contents iniurious to health. '~I6DaXNDED 6MOSINe rttODC(1re "Src. e52. A smoking product shall be deemed to be misbranaid- "(1) if its label is false or misleading in any partciular; °(^_) if in pankag_e form unless It bears a label containing (A) the name and places of business of the manufacturer, Imcker, Or distributor; and (B) an accurate statement of the contents in terms of weight, measure. Or unmedoal count, except that under this clause (B) reaeonable variation shall be permitted, and exemptions as to small packages may be established by regulations prescribed by the 3ecretary; "(3) if any word, statement, or other information required by or under authority of this ILet to appear on the label Or labeling is not prominently placed thereon with such ronspieuousness (as compared with other words, statements, designs, or devices, in the labein},) and in such terms as to render it likely to be read and understood by the ordinary individual under <-ustomary cunditions of purchase arld use 7 or "(4) if its container is so made, formed, or tilled as to be misleading. "SEGCLArlnFe MAKINa E%EMPTIOVe ^Aec. 853- The Secretary shall promulgate regulationn esempting from any labrling r,ilutre;:_ents ~4 this Act ~nukinc prochmts which are, in accordance with the ht'n+tice of the trade, tn be prnceseed, lab"led, Or re{ntuked in substantial quantities at establishments other than thOse wbere uriginally processed or packed under conUitions that such smoking products are not adulterated Or misbranded Imder the provisions of this Act upon removal from such pro.e~ing, labeling, or repacking establishment." and Cosmetic Act is amended Sce. 3. Chapter III of the Federal Food, Drug, by strikinr out "food, drug, device. or cosmetic" 'each place where it appears therein and inserting in lieu thereuf "food, drug, device, cosmetic, Or smoking prodnet".

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22 PI/11IfP:'I"/'I: I.AIII11.INIl 1NU 1b\'I:IITIFINII- ~1116.5 No,c, if 16s1. is dnnr., w6r dn yuu Illinl: Ilud. ynur proradulr. tcould invile Icc. lil it;n1 iuu Lh;m I-houlhrr ItrlHrdurn? Alr. Nlwu. AII. Youug+.r, wo :ttl know 16ut, whenever all nt,mncv nf R::tv,roturnI. nwlcen rrg tdldiuun, IIILI\\':IyJ Itl\'Ilhti lil.il;ul.inu mnch Inorrv thnn tc6/,u fh/- I'un~+rrxy pnvus Io1;irJnlion, mld tvhni. 1 n.nl proptLSing hnrn is I.hul. 16n ("ungrcn. do this loh, nn,l Illrk lil:rli6nlxl of Iil.iRo.lion is nmrh ,lighlor I huu it. tvuuld bu it' tho u"mnr,y diQ Ihe joh. I Il,ink Iltiw is a renpon>;i6ilil.y of ('ou,.rrss:uld that. (omgresv sLoultI pn,s I.6is Inw. I say I.II:d. t6o only qur,liol. then reonld lw lhn qnt:sl.iou of cnnahl.llliouulil..y, luul you vrr.Y ,r.ldnul 6;tvo Ilm.l.. Of cocu~sn yon ruuuoh depcnd ou Illo II.S. tiuprrtuo ('uurt. Illese daye Lut. I1cunldjud m, } Ihnt. I Ilear truuld bo less 1 il iRlli ion if I hn ('oul,rrss Ijid its job. Mr. YuoNarlt. 'I'6mtlc,you vor.y morL. \h. Ifomuw of'I'c+xn:+. Would tho Rrnl.lrmu.n yield for min qaasl.ion9 11r. 1'ouxmae. L Yinld the Il/xn. Nr. liuulalos uf '1 e.xn,. Mr. Fiun, is ilyuar positiou thnt tho Fede.ra6 'llatln l'nlltmission Im.s 1he pownr Io do 1 his? 1h. TINU. I acould suy tllut. Ihe.y Ilnvo somn degreo of power which Ico Ilaco I;ivon 1.6eu1 hr n{;tdedo lilis indusiry. Ilowevor, I thinlc, ns I Sxid in wy stntemrnt, if I.hey- tvr,rc+ ILr nnforco t.ltifl ,varning c.lint t.hat LLov prvnmllgulod, lltat Illn tcdi:nru iudnslty wonlcl have ILcrn in oourt. 91 hotus n duy for Ilto mxI 11) yea.rs. llon'ever, if Ihr. Congcr.ss did Ihc+ job, tl tn nl m.ucrs nro very, very sl i u[. 51r. If oasur of'L'oxns. '1'hauk you, Afr. ('hnirlnan. 'I'1LO (luwcal tx. 1)r. ('cLrler h:.rc n questim[. \[tt ('nnrlne. Mr. Fino, 1 Lalco il 1.6nt you are terribly u t:aet by 11[e nw of tuhacen by so m;tny millions t.hroughout I:ILn Llnitrl Sinks; i= ILatlrunY 11r1. Ir INO. I nIrI nOt. nh90t alxnrt. it. I ant n Grm belicver in hunl:nt mtttlrc, nnd I knocv it. Is Lwlnu[ nniwro to smolce, and it is Lumnn nuture (A) ganrbin. What I say is 16a.t. as lnng ns yon r,nnnot nnli.nil gn.mbliuR 111111 d slnnking nnd driukiug, let us regtdato it and uuttsol it. 1lCr. (LvrI)o vnu Itrcn IoLnn,n, II/I'. RiunY Alr. FINU. I smIco ci,rnrv. AIr. (Ltlt'rElt. I bnlieco you will lind in I-he New I:u{r,ln.nd Jonrnnl of Mudiuinn, I unn 1961, or xbord. LLaI. Liluo, 16ut whilo I,Irey ttro IuA, cou- siJnlr.d 'n+rlutps Its +aul:<inl; ns wwdt tronble as ciRnretti~;, tLn.t tllnv c:l.uso ut ]enst 6a.1 f that muc6. You Atvor Inbelinl.. l lownvol, you txm. Liuun I o tlu, tLo trrrd. '1'h¢nlc you, sir. ]1rr. FINn. ALI.y I sny ILis (o Iho doctor. I f LLey Lnd n wxrniug lnbcl ou I lro r.iR;na t.hnl. I hey nro dltl[ roruus Ln yolu-hnaltll, 1 nlil;6t Insilntn in slnoking eiRltt nnd mighL cmn~cn four. 'I'6auk you. 'I'Lu Cn.t nte[Ax. 'I'hoy n[it;ltt pnt a tva ruiuR nn t.6ere I hnl. it is n tvm.d. nrr. hooney? hi r. 1(0o a I: r. I I tnvn ono short qnesti on. \ir. Itiuo, I w'ould liko tn ask you ill yom opininn, 11'hn,t, is n utG tlrand nirol.inu r.oltle.nt.1 Mr. Nlno. SninulisIs lnr.vo dolmIniut'+d---T rln not Icnow Ihe pcrcent: agn--Ihr.y Lat'e determinod Ilml1 tho.rn is n level of safety, nnd if you look Id, I Ihinlc il..vns 1.6n Itrndel's 1>il;est. t.lmf. Lltd ua re.porll nn Ihis wn'rnll 1'r,ir<nl,n- nl +rIiirL Ihr, hLi,I II,- / ~n.I nl,".i{ .. ,I d . rII rlcAl[D.I°I'P; I,AlWaINI: nNn 1UYr:nrIFINt: 1 11671, 23 e. e Inin}~ sold trr Ihl Awel'inun publit~ s6oninf,+ tlusr riy;arell+s that :u t6n InclI nf In.l' aoll nicolinr, nud souu~e or Iltrm tvere lutver ILmt tlhe ollu+l',. .\nd of comx+ tllrro Is n snfo level tv6iCh I frel I6nt.lhe uutnu- Gtrlaunrs onld tu'rivo nl. in utukiug cil;n.rel.lr:c wtfcr for 16opuldic. Alr. Ruoul:x. 1)o yon know ILlti. nrrordinf; lo Mr. llison Iltnt. 60 u1:LJn Ihn ,Ild,.lnrol. hnsirnlly t6n sludy 6uv nmer nrrirld nt. Arllnt, is ss fo mnl ohnlh is nnl. rwfn4 'I'Irr.y Il:n'r not.lurived at tr6al. it IauokinR islLnn~,~enl t.lnd.rexellyratnsr5ea.ure.rt ntr.I,lnu. I um C;uniliaur,villl('r1111II11S511r1[el'IIIxUII's11/KIIInIL Illll nnty fldly uRree teith it, 6ul I hncr beru sulrported in np' po,il inn by Ihe Jturkrroll lu,diluln up iu Itall'nlo .rhinlL fntdn Llrnt. +vu nLould lrrlnq In Llln puLlic's ulleutiun Ihn tnr nnd nirotino cnntc,nt. und nrige hy this r,ompelitiou nil I6m m~uufnltarvus It, Ixduce Ihe level of t.he[r tnr and uirnl.inn colNe.ul.. ,\tr. ItuoNl-',r. 'PI[nnk yon, Mr. Chnirmmm. Alr. Ft no. 'I'h;utk voty Aln /'hn irumn. 'I'hl ('n ~mnlnn. Ihxs nn,r olhcr mcmbr.r Imvr any nl trer ynrst.iou of 61r. Finn? (No rrsponso.) 'Fho ('lliulnl.trv. Mr. 11,101, tro nre glaul tn welenmc you also to Ibo roumlil Irr, and tcn will bo glad to 6oatr you nt Il[is I ime. STATEMENT OF RON. MORRIS R. UDALL. A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONQRESS FROM THE STATE OF ARIZONA Mr. I Innl,l.. 'I'hnnk yon, klrl l'hn.irlnnn. I 6nvo no Lnr.pn.rnd slnlv, mcnt., :nnl I k1101v Iha cxnumitlto hnv othc[' iu~po[tmil, tvitnesses here, ;urJ] if LI,o sutokiul±tnenlhors trf this rnuuuitlre wdl 1ig61. ap whatever they smolce :utd f;lve ulu nbonl. :1 ulinldes, I think I cm>I express my poslt.mn ou (6e bill I hdro sponsorod. Fil'at of nll 1 wnnl to say that khis 1; rcat couun it.l en luts dnnre woro in rrx,euls ycm's in tlte I inlds o f pnbl ia hrnllh than Ilns Ixr.n doun ptvImps In tltisl;rnct'alion,nud I Ihinlc Ihere ix nq lnorn impurlnut mnlinr Ixfnro 1he (1onFross toclny t.6:ut Ilre mal.lrr Ihur.uuuuit.lruislnlcinr~tqr. I n';utl loonumtmulthnrhu.irnmuuudt.hu wnnlbnrs of Illo totuwillro far r.ont.inumy; Ihn wvesli,rul.ion of Lhix very iuq,orhtuln snlhject and Iltn dill'rrrut, leglslntivn cuC!grsl.ions whir6 have hrr.m madn. As Ihe ahairmnu indicat.ed, my bill would place sllloklnff products in IILn suua cIlL.cv ns frnwl, drnqv nud r~~ .~'ot.irs in Ihn onforecmad, of Iho Federal Food, I)ru~, and 0nsmrlirs Act. 'Phe eJl'clt of lily hill ,voulil simply ho to onlpoamr Ihn Rood Imd I)rllg Adnlinislrldion to nslnblish sl;tndards fAll' slll/rl[I11g llrnI111C19 ns they 6nvo for otLar pru/l orl v runsu u mr l or asrl l by Lbe pn l rl ia. I,c:udI to sty ut. Ihiti pumt. Ilrol I um ncrl, rxuumiUwl tn Iny bill ns Ilrn onlv appruarll lo Il& problrnl. 'Phe inlrrnlurliun of my bill, wllirlt wlls uritrinldly spuuvorrd nenrly 2 yt~us al;o, nns dtsil;ned ns IU a.prrssion of my mlelrsl. Ilnd w.y iulonlilm thnt comM.hing should In+ dmle nbooll t-ho very r.lsionv hrnllh hazard po,rd by Llto asn of tohnlx,o prtxlnr,ts in Ihic connh'y. Rome tnny s;ty t.hnt f.lln :yl'rronrlt Inken Ly my bill is Ino wi1d, Iatnt itf i"nun+s Ljlre rulo of Lhe Lretlrrnl 'I'rnlle ('onnnlssinn. Somo nln.y sn). thalill ie an nzl.mmn bill u'llir6 roold lolally hnIt t6/ sale of lohnrrn hr~.entil+ niruliuc ronlrnl /srred1; Irvrls Lhn.lwr. un,c lnrulil. io fanJ

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.311 t7rOAnMr'rrl I.ABr;IdM1U .\\n \nvFlt'rl.,'nmO--IOf .l 7'he l'nnutalnN. Yes, I)I'. Cw9or. Afr. (?Alrrr:u. Yoll suy c,il;:r.i'nltes conlnin thesn hnrmfol suhst.:mr,ns. WIlnl.arn Ihcy, ATr.TTdnlll U r, I IuAI,I,. 11'011, the tiltrt±enn (Tencrnl's rc~n rt hns covered this in colun detnil, lutd I. nncy sn.y in this roga.rd t.ho il'ciod nnd I)rnl; Atlmin- i.vlrnt.ion flow has conlxul over nicnl.iue whiclt lnay ap~ienr in food prodor.ls. '1'hir is n5rd :lx ml iusowliaidr, anll uovc l.hc Lonmlisvioner or tho AdlninisG'nlion, tlle h'ood nnd 1)rug :\dnlioistratinu, wilt lakn ncl ion i f t het'o is art Inuch ns two ~i:u'ts per willinn nico4iue on nn npylo nr tui oran~ro, nr sunle footl plro oof.. Yct the nver7tge cigarette Las something like 12,(NN) parts of ni/xll.inn per million In it, and under my hill Ihe]food and llrn~ Adnlioistrxtion, whichnow Latsno jarisdic- Iion nvor nil:ni.iuo in snwlunl; prlslncts but does hnvo juristliclion over nieMino ill fnod produM:s would hnve Illo swue Icind of jw'isdic.l.ion. M1ir. (`Anrun. In thn work of tlln am'1gmnlt general's colnmission, ex- perinlenlaiiun and so on, did Ihcy lind thn.t nicntine and ciglvrJdc+s direr.tl y~nlfectudpeople'shc:rllhnsyouhnvostated? '.1f r. IlnAta.. I think my friwld frotn Kentucky can interpret. tlle re- port :ls well ns I ceutt nntl I wnnl.-..-- Afr. CAlrrlclt. You Imd it lhcre, I bolieve. 1A91'. IJnw.r.. I find itf thetv,yoti. M-. ('nlrrnm I wonld ask you to show itt to rno thnt it anys uicotitlo io 1.i.':uwI lc. r,nlses di/1ir.alty. 11fr. I il~ua. 'I'hcrn is ronm fnr Ilonbt nnd dislmt.c hcl't, rortainlv. AII Iheo fnr.ls:uvnol in. Rld I uw s+ali.Aird,:lsul,v frirud:cpparrnliy is nntt wllivlicd, Lhul. Ihr.rt, is n ruunlrl.inn Ilrl..crrn sInol:iuy :uld lnnt; lanleor,culplwze.ula nntllhlolherdi~cases. Afr. C.vrrelt. 'f'lu 1(10111)1) Ilrnlh', ~ir, ran ynu sho\lmr% lvhtrr ynn ohl ninro 1 t hosc li /lues, envh yrn r? A4r. fluelI,. :~s 1 sltid In mc 1;u'linr Ic5limon}-. thi; is mT~ own llersonal estiulxlc. 1. Ihink il 1,nl Ilc suhslanlinlecl in Ihe Smgenn (irnta'al's t'uporl., and in ol Iwr srilntilic invostir{ nent.inns wllitll havr hecn mndc. I 1 cI.o Iuse tI . 1,d. at.lwr /enI1L cmdd cc rInl r e Ih,l t the rre ~re no denths fl ow c ig u'ettcs and Ili 11- ill fact that, they .Ire good fur ynn, and I rrspc c-t.llll I ighl of 1)v.nplt. lu hold t hnsC opiniorl!;. 6fr. ( T.vt roat. We don't nlp,inlnn ,l.nyl6iug like, l:hn.t. I fowever, we do have 1 ables froul I llr Slugeon Genern.l's ollicn show- inl; Lho nluuhnr of deatha frnln hm+e.nntan' each ynnr, nnd ns it h:r~llssns t.hny don't., nl. lelstt iu 1!1G3, they ~were not as nulch as half (}lc tigure yon quoll~l, sir. R1r.ITaAt,c, \Vecoulrlclispnlrthninlplicnt.ions, lUr. ('AU'I'en. IeVl nle rrull Iher:e fiilm'ns. ]will f;ice you the Snrl?enn (ieuernl's riporl., i f)'ou Acolthllike In hnco it. 1tfr.I rnel.t.. I lln\-o it. nvnilnldc :uld I Ilnrn rend nlost of it. nlr. (Ltnrlat. 1'cs, sir. 1tt is hnrdl,y hu.lf \vhal, yon nt'e yuolinR. I don't. vvltnlt lo muke n rose ier ci~:aret.tls,'hnt slill wo miuht vory well injot'o nn indoslry in whicll t:honsands nnd thous:ulds of pcopln nre onqllayed, and ns yctt it hns never been pro\'en thnt nicotinc or tar c:ulse lung cancer for thalt mnl.tot. Mr. IlnAl.l.. ]I.hasbecn prnvcal Io lny st\lisfaction. I recol;nizet.hnt there;lro thuu: whn disagree wit.h nlc. Tf r. Cnlrrl:n. 'PI In n k you, ai l'. Tncls uud flgln'es-- (ntUIt071"rIS LAIt1:WN11 \VU :\I/PF:q'1'IS1NIt 191i3 .11 'I'hr ('n wnl %a. 11r. Irnrnnlrl, tnn Ilurc11 qaevlino! M r. I~ Alu ra sl.rn~. I Icou ll l l i lt r 161 rrrurlJ I n show Il l. i h i.c l lni o l I hn t yl cs. Faruslr.\~ llnd I own u sonll Inb:lrlv pnllh. Yuu aly run :Irr nnl in Tuvnr nf Ilruhihitinn of r.iRnrrllr.v. i\ir.lln:\la..'1'hnt isrighl,,,ir. Mr. 1'on umvl hnce 'oulethiag in Ininll \rhirll ynu Lnpr Iho bill will a/roulplivh. - Bfr.Iiunla,. 'I'hat is rir61. 111r. Rutssl.r:\. \1'nolll Yun Ininll lrIlinl,~ Ine wlmt'? iflc Ilo.v.l. 'I'hr main nhjcoti\~e of uly bill, n.nd I thiuk Ihe ol6rr hills t.lmt. h:nr btrn inl rollntrrl oaul ntleulptnl edornllinn. Istlnrnl ion is Iho :Inswm'. If t\-o 1an kretl in h~lmt of Ihn ymull; people nf Ihis rnunlly I he Ilun~crs nf .vnrokiul* .~o Ilud. they dnn't I[et this lu\hit nnd ~~et sInl-k on the ci}±:urllo h:16i1. I think llu long-nrllgc henelits, Ilro long -l,'lol!c rrductiun in dealhs, nnd serious ilhlr:s, cun hcw brnu;rht, nLolli. I Ihink pnlllihitinn lculdll III1F1 Iile PiIn1Pp rPS11lI IIIIII il hntl in Ihis nn(orluunic cxllerinlcul nu alTcohnl Ihnt we uodrrtoak in Illia rnunlry. I Ilnn'1 Ihinlc il \clnJd nnrlt bnt my hill is dcsi-ncd. nnll I thlnk Ihr othlr Irills nro Jcsi~o,J In rouslnolly t'nll ntllulian tn tho evil:; af Ilih:lcto, Ihe Jlulmyns nf sluokim[ it, in thr hnpc thnt Iho younn pruplr ill Ihiv rnnutrl1cill n/d Inkc it up lo Illr oxlr»I Illnt I hci r pu.rents hncr. 61r. F.\ulvrtl.tn-. 1 f 1'nn hntl vuur Ihnlhers, iP cnn hn/l ahal cnn liL-rd, I;,ml.hrr Ynn waldd rl,lutn Ihr ruminnplinn nf oiglu'otlcs...-ln/tt I'ast ,\I/III/I y<III/I/ItI1:1I,511'? 111r. llu\la.. I Imvl. nn ccl prlw/rihrll rnlt nl lrhilII 1 w/lultl rrdoru il, hnl. I hlrtlr thnll w/v rnn wakr n uolrtcrd reduvl iuo I,err Illr nca few yrnrv hl~ InLrliupr. by soult nrliun ill Ihr Iie1J /lf udrrrliniu", hy :wnne Ihinr+nf IlLis lciwl. Ihll 1,rnulll rlllufnrl lllv fl'nIIII, h'UIII Krohlrky nntl Ihesc olhcr St;dkc5 hy Inlling thcw IFhal ill nle jntll!olcnt if )'ou n1loplotl nll nf Ihn prnposnls Ihnl arn Lefnre Ihe ('nurrrs", (hrre \laolcln't. Iw anv tlrannllivv nr nl:niccd snddcn reduolion ill Ihe snlrv of Ir>I 1 ct . I Ihinlt ilt is nq long-Irrul prohlrm .'hic.6 a/l'wr: \ury slow Ir.ulls nl, bc.51Ihllllhinl:.ceon~ldln;,nIt;lar1e11nnddn5ulnrlhinl~:JnuR'Ihr~r lincs. nh. h:\nNSIr,r. T Illink perhnlls ws pcople. wuold hc olurcp inlrrrsleJ if thnrc \\os Iolnl prollibiliou, uncl I dnlrlIhiulc they \,ant lo kill pen'lie-- A(r. I lnA lr.. 1 tun sln'c Ihcv tlnn'f.. Rfr. PnnNar,1ar. Yoll still dou't know how nnlrll you would t'echlce il., bldt vour iden is to rclluce it. l'nu st>.v yon havr idenc uholll, tlclvertis- i ut(. 1Voldd yon lell nic :Ihnldt t.hnt.? Alr. lln.\II,. \I'1II wmn t,f IL., Irri:dalion ,chirll hn~ brun prnl/ur;cd in I ho ('un~rr:s \vnnid relpli rr I hel I hn sol't (if lalrcl \rc hacr luro t nikinR nhnnjl on thr. eig:nelln carlnn nr pnck:n,m wnultl nhn he roqoitrtl 10 appcnr in n.dvc.l't.isiu{(. 'Phis is nn np lronth wltieh 1 think shonld llc sIndicd. Perhnjia il, is ;tn nIlllronr.ll w~ticL I}hn ('rmrress oli;'ht onnf1 to Irnve lo Ihn VedrrvI 'I'r,n1r ('l lnlmi=nion rnl hcr I hnu IIr i.clal ing ilsei f. llld I rrrtninly t llink l.lliv upprunnh Ir.ls some lucrit noJ thall il ou_Id In bc Jotlictl nnll run- lrrrd.

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118 CI(IARK7"fl? LAnEIdN(7 r1N1) AUVI:yt'l'ISINC-19116 '1'hesc slnleweuts were cullyd frum hnoks, mngnr.hro nrlirles, arwnOrllxr l,dilnl'hrln, Irrlicluu, or Iclters to Ihe edilnr nflor Llre "Iteptrrt ln the Surgewl 4cucrltl" tvns releRsted ou Jonnory 11, 11NW, nud, IcWle lnnst nf ILrIr nrlGlunl Inne aod hdvut lcns genurnlly Inninblined, thcy ~rrru usually pnrnphrnsed in urder br Imtler lit witlrhl lhe cunlexCof nlu Inten'Icw sil.untlon. As part nf tlle rlacaClh rteslgll, tyle NIRtI'111011tn wel'e I)rPKClltell lllllr?olltly In IILe frmr formn used hy Ihe interviewers, wilh Ihe srleel.iun of (lie form tr, lm nsrd heiug Predelerolhled on a raudnudy sclected lulsis su tlllll elleh [IfitNr11/Ielrt 111cortelenlly lmll an equal claulce of hefug giren nuy (.ne Parl.it'alNr furm. 'Phc diRerouces and similnril.les between tLr fuur fornls-A, B, 17, nnd I)-nrr nH followN : Wor/Png-Snnre of LLc sLntenrenLs were icordcd exnctly nlike on all fuur furnw, but other slntenrents were presented conversrly in one of thc forms (U). N'ur crnwple, If forms A, lt, nntl C urnUllnad the posilive verslon (if n stntenlrnt, Ihrn on ful'ln 1) (ht. rnuvrrne uf thnt slntrincut lens Prrsrnlal, thrd. Is, n uey;nllvrl) wnrded versinn. The 1n'rcent.nges ngreeiug or disnf.rreing bl resla/use to Ihr vernlun given on most fornls (A, B, nud C) nre DI'ovldlsl In aalumu 2, lolnl, fulv/x A, Ii, C nf llle ottnched table, while llle percent.nges for the converse stnteolent are presented In column3, fnrm I), "Cnnverse." However, the nasumed effect of diffurences In wording Is blwt estlnlRted, fnr rrusuns explalned below, by conlpnring perecatngen in colunm :1, fnnn D, wlth lhose In c(lalnn 4, fnrm C. '7'he difTereurrs IN the Percentnges brtaveml Ihoee t.vo forms nre listed In colamn 7, °C aad 1), WordlnF" 1'ufiffir+n (qurxtioo tulmM1Cr) tnitNin fnhv'rirm xrJrrrlulr: -The stnlel)IeNN wcr'r prvwenied eorly hl lhe interview silunlinn hl fornis IJ nnd 1J, ))nt Inlcp hl fnrms A rmri It. Althounh in Icrms nf Ihelr poxilion 1v11Wa llm Int.ervlew nchrvlldr furor C mrd 1/ nrc epml uv nre furma .1 nnd 1t, Iile h(uf enlimnte of Ihe nx.rlnnrd rITrrl of pusiliun ulron nnswrrs Is nrhlroved hy rnnlparhlg thc Pcrrentngrn hl rulomn A, form (1 with Lhose In colmmu/i, forw A. '1'he ditTerences In tha 1>Prrentnges Iretwoca these two fnrms aro Ilstwl in ralman N, "A-LS, pn.vllaon " rJrrhvwi/hin /IriA pmffMrhn- xrrirx.-:fhr Nlnlamenlu werc presrnted lit thc h1ralirnl ordrr nu forms A, (77, luld I) hnl Irrre rever.ed on fnrnl B, wllh ihu In,l. Ilrst. rlnrl Ihe /lref, hlst, unQ so ou. tiiorc there arl'e an odtl nllnlher uf ntnlcurwrts, slntrmeot No. 6 in t:his rrlu.rl (lrtlPr I uu Ilre forms) rruurhrrd 111 IILL lutddh Ull IIIl fUllr fal'lI1R Fut' nDPnrrnt rvnsons drecrlhed In Lhe oLuve Iwa srrllons, lhe ns.vnlned eRert ,d Ihe ~mrhr -d prrucillldlnn wIlhiu Ilrr ael'ir. nf elnlrwenlv Iv hestt eullaodrd hy vumpnriag Ihn prrrroingen In rnluma f, furm It tvllh Ihose In ea1111lm 11, furnl A. 'Phu dllfermrren lu flle Irercentngrs bulwcrn thewe tn'o foruls are IlstAnl hl rnlunm 9, "AB, order." TAc porcrnfnyre mld diJJurr.nr.cx Acirarcn fhe prrrrnfagcx.-The following In subiniNed na a genernl gulde to fhe .elnsftrnd nigolltrnnce of dnln PreaenUri: tihu'e rnrh or Ilre fnrtns waa llcerl in oppruxinlnlcly 1.2110 Ildxrvletvn, thv stnu8nrd error nf a given Ironrnt obininal fronl ally one forlll Is im mod . rnsr+ nPinuximnlrl3' 11A Vrrreninge IwBds: Iherefore, dilfrrenecs detwecn 1'crceningr* ohl:dued fronl hun JiRcrcnt forms nrn prohnbly nnf slntlstlcnlly sigulflrmd whrn Ilue diRcrencc is fexx (hrm 4 P"rrcntngr pnlni.u. In cnsns where the per- rentngru helug eumpnred are Irxe than'l(/ 1'ercent nnrh Or nmre, than Rfy Ixfraent rnch, diliereuves of less t.hnn :1 IMrocninge Irolnts ore prnhnbly not stutlslieally eigldllennl.. Allhungh lu'rcentnges are herr giveu in tmrms of "ngree" or "dixngrec," p(r- crntnRCV nre ulso nvnilnhlc for enrh slnirmrnt hrdicaling the I~xtent to n'hlrtll t11o pnuIlimr eros "alronRly" ur "udldly" htW. ln nlldillnu, although nol prruenlld here, srores fnr enqh slnlenleul. Imxed upun n Ilve-Iroynl srale nre nlsu mnllnLlr, 1'En/IkNTAaR ])IN'I'RIIItITIUNN nY NTATN:rAF.NT AND b'ORH 'I'h, fnlluaing alntementa nre ordererl nceording to Ihe hercentnge af people vappurling tllr med for nnd/ur the NPcciilc nal.inn prolaserl for t.he enntrol af cignrrIfc vmokhrg. 'I'hr nrnt xlnlemral. Ilnl.d Irelow Is thnt whiuh rruclved tire grrnloslt nuppnrl, frum n elgnreLlo conlrul vlevelrrrlut; the last slntemcllf. recrltrd Ihc Invt. supixrrl'l fruor that vlewl/ulnt. (91{AItFI'I"PR 1.A11D:IJNt7 ANU Aly{'F.B.'PIHINtI-1961i

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71 CIGAItD:7°l'Pl 1.AItP11dNf: ANII AllA'ISIrrIRIN(i-11/f,L Mr. I IISUN. Yts, ail. 'IIw (;IlAlaa.on. 111r- MnrJuunld, 1 ditl uut iuleml Lncnlcr ialn tltis lr.n;;llly rnllrrrtiuliuu al. Ihiz liwo. I du nult nnnlt pen tu ,irclLM.Ine as ,you did Mr. lio,n,crs yrst.rrday. I did want Lo clcar il. np. hlr. AlACUUN.v.u. II nw tlali,~hirvl, t11r. ('~hairmau, :tntl I rrrluiuly nrunltl uul( arcano you, aml I t~d uo6 itdnntl to :ueo.aso Air. liogcrn, nf lilibnsla.ring, As at matlor of fnrl, dL. I)ixou, I L6iuk liew'inq you and Alt. kohrrs, I would 6utee to tcty it w:w a Itvo-way /ili6nster, hlr. lllxoN. 1 IlLnul;kt you ttnrc lalkinl; abonl. mc frauldy. Mr. 111AOUONAI.u. Aud ul the Ittu-w':ty lilibnslcr f 6atl o-~onw poinls Llntl, Iwnnlcd I o ra isc j nst for my utvn snl isfacl iann, jnst ns nnr turadxI of tltis cmunlill.eo. When I lirsl. rGtd ynm slatmuentl I wnldd hare immedi:d.rly tamgral.tdaled ywt un Ilte sl.:demlnt as ban~., very forlh- rigldt in slnlin~, the position of your Uowntission, IfUt Lhore kasberlt it lil.llee t~.loud I~lu~nvn over somc nutllers to my miud hocause us 1 fol- lowed your very logical sl:dmmenl, ynn sltltod thnt it was of uo rcal womcul uwcroly l o labcl a parJcnhe o f riga,rrl.tns tkat Las been pwvrhasrJ buforo a porson gets a cluencc lo sco 1 ho Ialwl- . You Llten wr.ul, on to say I-holC in one of tlte hills it shnuld lie undet slood it was nott just a caul.lou bat a shttclnent following I ho Advisorv (7ouuuillcn that this was injwi)iis to hcalt.h and could rauso cwcrr. ~ 11ir. lllxoN. Yr.s, sir. nfr. MnooocvAt.u. Rut Illr.n ia n cnlfollny lmtwtr.n yolusclf :uid Ah. Rogers I be.cawn a little runfnsml as to Ilio linnl posil.ion to bn IaLeo by .your ('ommission regardinl; wllcl.her or not you feel Ikat rarh adverlismuc.nt outlcr the ealo (a botly to cunsider w6ick I IIliak Ihal you menl ioned (iovnrnor Mcyuae is hnintn ktad up) sltould iorhidr Iho hnn~,ua~..o iudilnled Iry yon. Ilu vou ftcl 1.6n/an,y publir, atFrtrli~r Inent sl:oultl cualaiu 1o tvurds or lauguatrc. Ihat can 6r. tcork;d onl betwren yonrsolvl~ and iuduslry, to give norning that, riy.,nrll'. slnokin;; is Itarardons to Itenll k'? ' Mr. 1hxoN. Ubvionsl,y Ihe hrnblont wi11 develop iulo onc trhern tLurr, will lu: sown very sorious jnd~mmtts LLat aro gnim; lu Lavn be a:ado. I c:ut Lltiulc nf uue, ot ::1tuL udvl.rLisemeut tvhicL is ,jnst buniInni likc Lkat.. Ilo.v couki ,yon atk~~plalnly lret, :t watniug in? SnItlwl~rt you luul an Itnln prupqra.lu lly a slioovn', a cirw~tUr slrnnsol, nml :,ap- Ito~o Ill:d. fom nr live Limos Quriu~ 16n Itrn;,.raw Ikr.rn tvas suwc kiud of a.nnouqnemen6. AVnll, remJd ilLr adequutc lo lot Liw only so1 it our. Limn, to I;rt (ho wnruin;; in uno Liutr,? (",ould it tmnc ev :e py=, I.lunugh oa lho.vncnn,nlino:R Now, ohen you get. dutrn lo nvtvsp:yrer ur Imriodiral advr.rlisiug, Ihen it. is the pnsilion of it, Lltc ptvwinonce of it. ]'ou c.ould say I sre il, bul. yon may h:wa to Iln.ve a mnni fyin{; glass: to lind it. 1V6:d 1 woldd lilcc In ltnvn ynu witit iti Ihis, 'P6a1. I h:wn :1 rrc:d tlenl of failk iu 1Le iuennity if Ih;, Auurinut al ill 1.6te butiinrsnman, nud I thiuk Ilm.t. tkis rou 6e tlone finrly, :mJ it cau Iw donc iu sucL ,1 w:ry Lhnt.Ilnrt tsill be ndrqualo tcuuinn" :', . hlr. R1At.unN.tlo. }4'e all be.li;t~~e in Iltr, ingrnuily of htrinrssmrn, espcrinlly hlonlisnn Avcuac. ntl ut..,NI v". AIr. Alncl>tIN.v.u. Rnt. mv yurslinu is, Ju ,ynu wy Y6al. Ihty s6uidd intludoiuul.Ltrnthnrl,int.turidswnnls - - ;\Ir. UisuN. :\u rulripinlr tc:iruim" llniAlll%NrPI 1AItIILINtl ANIf Anvrlrrlsrno---toar 75 ptr. MAnnuNnt.o (t'outiuniuO. ('utdionn.ry worils thaf. sniulcin;± is Liznnluus In hcolth'4 Ah'. IhxuN. I ttm sayinR this lu yun. '1'Im6 I ous tutuulrnlinR uu clrooilie Ic",islalive lanl{nnRo tcLcn I )nado Lhat s!:drultn/., :unl Uon- ~'rc=a can, t f they wanl. t!o, dclelslc it. to :ut a',!eucy lo spell onl Fencral Ian{;nn;;n surh av tre have nnr dcltrol.iun now, but. if Von nrc Roull; to Iwt. it. iu spvcilic Innl;uafie, I Lol. is I.he.vay it has goL to Is sutl Mr. MAOUOxAIn. ltikht. 61r. I)IxoN. Aro yno aiminR ~pecilienlly iu these Lills just. nt it plicka~na hG. i1no1n-NA1u. You :md 1.u-n p!oing, Lo get inln flto sfunr, tollaply as Congressman RoWets and yon ditl. I mn not. saying Ikat you :uo trying to prevlnpt Ilte linld, or tlud yon should. 1Sot 1I ato asking nnee again, fairly direG.ly, do you focl, re tresenting your C"nnmissian, tkat in caelt public adverLi oment-L will strilco tko word "each"- bl.r.])ISOx. Adeqnalow:uvin;{. Mr. MAo1x1NAl.n (conlinuiut;). ln mdclpntto siro and Lypo advcrl.isc- ntnnls I,1L:tL (6.ro sFtonld Fin a atnlitat Lhat. smoking of nigarolAPs Is in- jtreinns t ot he koul l k? Dlr, UIxnN. I suro do, sir. Mt. 11'lAonoNAl,o. Jtigltt. AVcll, I atn glad t.o Lanr ILaI.. Nnw I can couRratIIlalr.yon,Lecans+ I fltinl:(hot.---- Mt. lhxoN. 1'Le.t is what me wcre trying to say, and we tvorc trying lo say to thn Conqrlss-1 rcalize. full well Cou~n'osv may not ngreo willt tlntt positinn. They m:ty say they would liric 1a lak.+ sometlnng Irs516;ut t.halt pusil ion. nlr. NAOnnrvAI.n. ltigl,t. And Itttuusol yon do feel Ilrot teay, yoll .vntdd 60 opltustd to 16tt Al:y;no".on hill tvliir6 tlors nol hn.ce such a ltruvisinn- Aon would,also he . clrltorrd lu Uolgrrs.olan Itu;-arq' bill, would yon no1.7 . Ah. 1)tsoN. 7he May;nnsou Iri11 1 did not olrposo Lnrotusn I a~SGnnnetl frmu Ikat Ihat t.he problrm of ~lcnlinq tivillt ntltcrlisiun tea+tlefl to os ondr.r unr powor9. It1r, MAOtxtNAt.n. No; it. mmcly goos Lo laLcling as I nndtrslawl it Mr. IhxuN. 1. lalow it: 'I'kcrclorc, tr6att l said t.o kim, wr supported ltis Lill so fnt us it wenl, nnd we nodrrsland frnnt his Lill, not having any rcferrnre 1il atlvrrlisln{; in it, I hnl. un trnuld hc Icl'L Itt prtxrvd in eo urdnrly courro lo r.uforrs Ihc+ In.,v :utcl rrtpiiro an ntlryunle. .e:tl'Itim on adrmtisiug Tlr. MAOnnNA/n. Are you suyim,g thnt any bill tLatt trtlks about label ing-- Mr.l)Ixoa. Notnnl,ylabcling-- Mr. MAt:noNAte) (contimtinl;), Specifir, l:ml-oat;c, Ihen, open cnd, k,wosIuyonlo. -._ hll I11[PN. T1nll Int911tltlly Is It. t11r.1\lncnnN,vn. Onlltcadvlrlisin;,rnd. Rlr. I)i~uN I6alI is Imslntlly d sir. 1'nn srr, ('~vna'r.; Im,,tJ - Ilt:dt is, in 1!YtSaulo.ntkd 16r lanc lunay.vt~ 6ad lo:tlsn 1trwvrd nrainslt mtfnir or drtrplico ac/s or prnrlit~<s, nuJ Ilmy niuendrtl il. spcrility Ily tvil.li rr:attrt I.o fuod, drnt!s, tlrv irrs, :uul rustut.I irt+, hy nddint'q srrl tous 1'~ I lI r111Nr!11 I d. Mr. MACIniNAln. 1'rs.

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84 CIGARKPI'Ol LAnEIdNG AND ADVP;aT19ING--196.5 ooldd oll'rclivrl)' indicnlc lo the ril.izrlu'y Ilml, sntokint; cighrrllrs proulntus Lrnllh or sccll-Leinh? Ihlder 16n provivions of 11.H. tlll1~1, srcl.iou (t--. Dh. ll1xoN. Wo cmdd proLibit (.Iln falsity of tLat rrprescnlntion, correct. Afl. lllNaHa,r. Yon teould unt ho denird going foncwrll under tLat. llll'. 1)IXIIN. No, sir. Alr. 1hNma.t.. Very lrell. Now, Ilte.re is ,just ono l:~et I hing. Will yon as a kindnes.s to t.he cont- mil.tne sdnniti art rx:uupleof IheslzeI prinl.I6alwordrl bc reqoired urndcr 1.6in IrS.islal.ion in I.hr. Inboling of cigaml.lrti'? I nol.ieo Lltat il, is Ron- e.rnlly anrhllcr Ihno tt-puwri(er type. 11L. 1)IxoN. 7'his wonld havo to bo r,loarl,y legible, nntl it tvould do- pmtd I guess upon Ille size of Lho ncl and the Innlcoop, 171is is the reason il. is so he.nl fm- me. Is your quest inn about tLis bill $ DL. l)tNOtaor,. I am referring Io page I or 1I-It. 31114 where it says- shs)1 he printcr) on a slzn not less than 1'2~puiut type on a 14-point base. Wllnt I trntdd like Iudo is 6nvein tl:o record soomtvhnrc I am aslcio;; y mt to do it--n.u r.cnmlde of I.he sire prinlI trllere tte - nhn see tahRtu it loolw like. '1'Le Cu,vn>,rArv. I uill sny to the renllemlln Ihnt 16at is nbvions %vhnl. ilt is. We will llacc t.hesl:rll' get that :u:d inr,lntle it in tLn tvv;ottl. iUr. 1)INGet.c. All right. ('I'ho infnrmntinn referrul to follon,s:) "CAU'CMN : Cl(IARUI'I"I'Itl tiM(1KIN(i MAY I*: JIA'/,Alil)1)i1S 'I'(/ Y/ll1R, fIl1]A1:1'll" All. UINwna,. Non-, oue last. rplevl.iun. AVhnt. n.re yom c+nnlor.nl:a .rilll rrRwd 6u the nqoircmenl. 16nt 16r, labnlin{; Ire printed on I he sidr 09' Ihe pack inslenll of I he front or Ilu backl \fl'.l)IXorc. I1.6itd<Ill:d.if vunnrn,sorio:rvahnol.lmnJdosroint,+il- tnn onghl. not.Lide il.. I1H is kindof like us Irying Io (in:1 Ihe frunl, si:le nf a runml cnn. }Pe hnd Idlhtt problmu nn euu:n oil dotcn al. Ilte Cnuunis- sinn, und we hnd a heck of n t.inlo tignring ont, tvhnt. the fronl, sidee ol' 1.6o cnn wns. We pnt it on bnth sides. '1'Lc C1IAIanrAN. I)r. C:trtcr2 11Ir. Cmvrl~.n. In yowrslalrlneutyon spr I6crr is modi<:Il nnd v:ientitir" apinion ILat cil;nre,l lo smoking is n sil;niftranlcaaso of certnin tlisenses tchirL cnnl riLWn anhvhml.ihlly Io nlnrtnlily frnnl these diseases and to Ilm nanr;lll detannrnf. 1`nn s;ly fnrl Lr.r Ibcro. tcarn /inrlittRs Ly IheI rnm- mil Ieo Il:nl, tur ndhnt itnl.ive, mliahlo, :uul slnnrl-nl. Iea51 1'on said 16is inll:etivn;lle r5,u.ullallyunr6n.llrn;,>ed I'llislntlerpn.rttrasomil.led I believc. Tllis is yonr tmsis for yoar Irnde re;,ralntion rnle as I mtder- stond it. I asswne you aro ntv;tre Ihat this cnmmiltee last year heard tnsti- n'loo y from n nwuher of sr,ienl.isls who <Inevl.inned I he ronr,lusinns of the Surgeun flenwnl's ronurlitlen. I nssome liu16er 16nt you nre a.w:u'n (.1int tuorr Ihnrt :Vl iu,livi,lu,:l :,,i,nli./h~ IJ'. ....Liin.. :ml Ihrr ~:,~'cl,. 19fIAItK'1"I'P. LAn4ILINC ANV AIl{'P1I1rISINr--ltleb 85 lrcl.ifiral Ixfnre. the Scnntn Conuumrre ('olumil.lre and rlast.ir.ned tlle rr~nr.lneiuns ol' LLo 1ur~cun ( Irncrnl'G mJvitior.Y cunmlil.lee. I bave. a1 lisl. Lera of Mmtn r;rirnl i~ls, durlul:+, :uul nlllcr expel'Is trlm qmsI.i.me:l t6e rooclusions of Ihe SmReon Uenernl's report which I truold lilcn In Irnd ttt ynn, nl Irast a 1'rw of Iltcm. It. IN+Rins tvill) .IasopL IlerkSnn, forlurrchief of the 1)icisinn of ISinmettryry and 111rdi- r:.I tilntisl.irv, Alnvo Olini<; I(nrl l~rrodnnl:orfi, director, seminar for mrdirnl sl a.l i=1 irv, Rne 1 hliversil v of Ikrl in. Afr. 1)tsnN. 1FIr,:I trasll1nl.nnme,sir7 fllr. ('alrrr:¢. V r r.n I1-rn-br-r-g. P:Imer F. (irronl, M.1)-, presi- dent., Lnv Ans;r.los ('ntnd.y I11r,li(nl Asrorialiou; (1111id Milm:mn, \LI)., modirn) Cnrldly uf 1La llnierrsily of lionn; Slanley 1'. Ifeint:um, 31.1)., dirtnlor enlerilns, I.he Inslitldr, of (':Inrer Recenrcll, 1'611ndel- phin, I'n.; lI. A. tiLnpirn, A4.1)., rdilm', Afrllical Proceedint;s of South :1 frirat: l lnrry Snfnrenlcn, DI.I ), rditnr, Orvernl 1'racl.il.e; Bot'is 5nlco- Inll', Pf.l)., Smd.hern Ilio-Re~+enrcL Instilole, Iml.efand, Tln.; Ilarr;y .1. 1Yv'llnmy 111.1)., nssxi:rtn ln'ofrvsor nf sm');el:y, Dledical College (f V11't;lll ln. 'P6is ;!nrs nn uudd on .cilll nals/nodiur, men Ilu'nnhont. Ille Iloiled SI:Nrs. 1Cilliaol I;. Oler, N1.1)., direrlnr if lulun':tlnriev, ICuicl.rc- IvKkcr TlrKpital, Nmv A`orlc Cily, assislanl, IrcofesGor of p:llholot;y, .111xrl. ISinStein ( bllcgc of iWedirine, as.soriule professor of pnlhnlo;!y Now York Bleliir:d College; Juhn II. IVlnyer, r., tlmrarie nmi rn.rdiovnsrlJ;rr swgenn of Knncns (lily, 111u., Lend of the 1)ivipion of 'Pllnl;tnir. Snrgety in 1(nnsns (lit_y General 1lnspitnl and Medical (-nn-. Irr. 'Po rrad all of LLem tcnldd take np a{!reat deul of time. Rat )'nn srw Ilull./l:er arr mnnl' nlrn nf icirle rrpnlnl inn Ihrant[Lnnt.llre I)ndr:l tiln/ra trho rlislnJn, or rathcc'tclro are unt rnurinrrd f6at, sulokinR I i,r,n%Ilrs dor:; ruo"e v,ulrer. , In farl, Iltix luts not bcen trrnce:l. 11, is nn ussuu:pl.inu bnsrd upon na rorrv.lnliuu of slalis(ics. In nlh/r lemds, Ihew liorlings certainly have Isr.n rlutll/ugwl, llave. Ihoy nnl? Ah. 1)IZUN. I nr.vr.r Irird to lenVn nny ialpressinn tilnt t.lmrn tv:ls nnh.nimil )' in I l/is (ield. WLnt. I Iriell lo s:ry is 16a.t a s,ysloma(irn~oviolv of Ilm eridl.nrc- I do nol: Ihinlc any dicinleravled expnrt. br>,ly has rumo Iu uny Jilfrrrnl ronclosiou hum 16is rrpnrl.. Ah'. ( IAtrra:n. }~es, sir. 1 (101101 . tcisll In dlsatp~er, bnt. 1 Leliete IL:d, in vau Srnalo. stnlr.nlenl:. yon said il. tcns eswnllnlly mtalmlle.ngwl,.1'1's, sir. Mr. 1)Ixnrv. l trill titirk bv tLutslntnment,sir. Itfr. (J,.a~rr:n. :\ll rig6t, sir. 'Che Snrgeon General's advisory com- mitloe ndmil(crl its cnm.lasion .vns basrd on jndRntent. Tn fact tLo cnnnnitten drtnled a cIntl>ter explaining how it reached this jml~,- he hte.ld. tiiu:'e you ;Iro not, a srihnlict yunrself, ymt caamot really rvrtnin I hal. I ln+ jadgments or npinions of I.lln ndviwny commitlees are any ls~llra~ Ihau Ihr. jndga«td, of Ihe rxpcrts tvlho Ieslilird Lefore Ihis rommitlro Instt yn:n' or Is.fore 16n Seuale (bmtnrrcn (',oomtil.lee, ran yull? \Ir. I)I.uN. Yon me;ut I (ta.nuot accept ILeir opinion, sir, thcir lindint '? Mr.(:nln-r,r,. tiLnlllsf:.leitag:.infnt)'ou8 '1'6oSurficnnl:cum'nl's .\dtisory (':nomillan ndwitleJ ifs ennchtsinns tvere based ml jndy(nlenl.. In f~,:, 1 /I..:. aninillrr,Ircolwl u rhnl,lrrlrrrv hlnininpIlntt d.t'rnrhrrl

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til) UIaA11P.r'rP: 1..40Pll.INtl AKD .V)v4:)rrltilN(:--19rG \Ir. CutrrlN. 7'hn.nlc you, Nr. ( lmirs:ul. '1'Itutt is all. '1'Ln Cu,unntnrv. hfr. I)inge.ll? 111r./;ulrrtN. ''hunlc yun, ftir. CInlll'111it11. Ch:tirmau lltxoN. I w:ud, lo trnloome you l+,l (lie r,omwil.lce. I:un ono of your very out}tusiastic uthuirers lutd I am Itlwnys glad to see yon up har,. I wuut to cotruuend you for Ilto vigor on w6ic6 you 6ave tnoved ou Ihis qucst.iou. 1 o'tutt, to say I fad this is a« estraonliuary rsauqdo of how :t I1udr,rnl adminishalicn :Igrncy c:m luovc itt ta mcrt It situntiun. ~ I tvonld weleuroe it if sonic of Ihe ntLer aclntiuistrat.ive :tnoucies tvotdd copy your met.hod nml yttur vit;'or. f tcotdd like to treat. witll a nnmLcrof poin(s t.h:.t lLnvra conw up. Lt the legislnl.iou tlutt wc sce boforu us, we have narro}eed mu ehoices belnreen Iwu uppronclles, ouc l,riug Iltrnuf;h fhe rriutiual loe(6ud as you lutt~e uleullonnd, uue br,fl~~ Llu'uul;it Illc mntLod nvailnLle tutdcr 160 Adwini:d rld iru 1'rardw c.\ rI I n I he lr,unls of t he Fedetul '1'rade Cemlui.'si,m. I tcnnld lil:c lu 6rrat oilh Illis puinl. 1}vonld al.ul lil<c Iu discnws tril.ll yuu Ilte uccd for tllo Ir;;islnl iun iu thrw lig6t of Ihe prnpesed tIde- lualciu~_ltrocrdm'n tlml. the Cuululidsion Ilns Fnt forlh. And 1 tvonld lilcn Io d islalss a I il.l Ic bit ~til It you, i f I)ultyt umw of the couteut of the suvtaral pirces of Iehisl:lJ.iou iusofar uti nottco is git'ety insofnr as [lw llotcnl^.; of Lhe (bunuiisiou or the Iredrrnl rrfrululnry aqeocic's cott- cr.rued truldd Ilc nll'r.clrtl. SI'il6iu 16uL liuuia,lrorlc Illould like to begin Ly asking you about how long you Fcol it lcould 6e 6efore tlw Itrupa;rd rulrs sc.l, nld by thu 11'cJcrlll '1'rede Uotnmis.tiiou rnuld Iro cu fonad 9 Alr. Ihxux. I once nnslcrro.tl Ihis I:lst; yrnr Illa( I 16our,Lt c,ousnrrt~ I ic-nly i ycars, if it. was resisted. illr.lhNUr;l.t.._1t noultlbohymus, if renisted? nll'.I)LCfiN. ) es,slr. Alr. I)hrlr,v:l.l,. Il, appcal:ti on I.he lLnsis oP.vlntt we c,:nt discern tltnt it will bn rraistrd 6y I hce couyctninv; is I Iln.t r'.nrrrcltB 111r. UunN. I huve ren"I Inddi" . 'Inlemcnls ILatl if urorssui.y Ihe in- dual ry is Itrcpa.rcll to tlwwl lou I.hrI rilrht of t.he ('nwmiasion to issm tt rulr. 'I'hnl. ltaldd Ilo Ihe. Lr-inniup;' point of tho lilig;ttion. Vlr. UI Ntm:ld,. I nce. Nolc, guiug, fnrl6rr, i[ J mny, 1 lcould lilce, to di:-cnss wilh you tLo prov isiolw of Lha sovcral Ilicrrs of Ir;±ivLttinu Leforu I Lc r.omtni/ tco, nud coulrnslM it 11iIL Llle propnsad rulrs, if t ulay, hir. (Lxiruuvt. I woldil liko In dis"uns, fir.st, of all, I I.I{. d[EI+, 11h. lyino's Lill, ttlticL I;enm:dly vetits Illr pulrers ol' rnforccuirnt un tllis ilt Llle P'odqrnl Tradc Commis- siun. 1+rou41 IiLe In uslc yuu hntc th:ll runtrnsls with, +rLel6rr it rx- pnutl=, 1, lirlllor il ennl.rtlvls t6re au/Lorlly of Ihe Fndnrol 9'r:uln (Iow- uli~iou fruw lv6:t.tr is :Iplrurully iu rulua I and 2 of tlle prnpnsrJ rulemulcintr set nut in Ihu I r:lde rrgldnl iou rldrs meutioned }vllich you suLmil l lvl l o thr nelnm il lre I llr, ut llrr dey. h hL. I)an. '1'6is Ims a li'If1111'I:Itlt'Jltw tIIRt, the nicot.inc-lar contmlt shuuld 6u shntvn also utt 1-6o Irtrlcagr, tc6icll is dilfcreut. frnnl rnn' nnAc. 'I'Lton, of rourse, I6e qunirJ warnin,q is spr.eitia, lvillt oolt mnelt of x dill'rrrm~', nntl tnd~idr of Ilcll Ihwrr i,c nn Ilindanlrnl:ll di/forlvlcn lll(;A1t6%fPl: t.ARPIIdN/l ANU AUl'NIITIsING--IOeL 8) hlr.l)INmet.l.. I)ues tLis Lill a11'urd yuu Idto o.ullwrily lo rrarh ILo qaesl.ion of ad crrl isiuR 9 htt'.1hxuN. 'I'hisbilldncsnul.refrrIeadvmlisin~~,innny'resltocls yfr. lhNar:).. ;A ud brinR silru( on I-Ilat. point., wh:d, tsonlrl y'oar too- slrnc.l.iuu uf iL 6r wilL trtmrd lu lhr ltotrrrs of t.lte Uatunissltpl es l.o rrnnltin~ I Itc qnosl.ion of n.dverl-ising? hlr. I)txoN. It.',vould lie my inlorprrlnl.inn l.lm.t, we have 110 ollte,r choico LnlW lo rufurr,u I6e I:nr }chirlt we nrn stvorn to cnforcq nnd itt dnc'npply l o nri vcrl.ising. kIr. I)INala.l.. Yunllunld hser Illr. pmerr, Illeo, mulrr Illis Ic;,gisla.- I ion on 16r tplrsl.ion uFad rnrl iniul;'? 11(1'.1)IXIIN. Yes. Mt'.IANmEra.. Vcry I±noNI. Now, t6e o1Lnr Lills, 11.H. 22,19 nnd li.R. 4007 nud 3011 nnd 7015, nn t rrnd t Ilrnt, (trnrrtllv vcsl. in I Le c.riminnl pnu+erlurrs of 1.6n 1 htitctl sIxtrs I hc e.n fnreewmd. drrlces fer I tli,c lcgrisl:d iou ;:tm I currrrl 3 A1 r. lllzuN. '19m,1. is corrcc.t.. 11r. UINOO:I.I.. '1'6is tcuuld druy,'ts yuu h:l}'n tniuletl nut. Ihr atL nliniSl /'nt itc IlrNihilil r t.hnl. I Ilr a:~rnry e:lu =u wr1~ {;icv; nni I r,rrrrrl.? hlr. IhxoN. '19tn1l isrurrrr.l~sirl hh'. lh*~arl.t.. So Ilml. 16is c.nnmlillrr oau vnry clrurlc uudrrslund tlle udv,tntttgrs nf the Itdminisllalirn proredutrs nvu.ilnldr--if nu itt- dividmtl tvere cLttr~ed % cith aviolation of Lhelaw, yott.vnuld not hnce lu IIIIIInIe a crmunttl procerdin;; Itl;ninst him. linl.llcr puu could ol~r.c:da lvil6iu 111c Tcdcrnl'1Tndc ("omutinsiou Ac(.; ntu 1 rorrcrl'd 111r.Ihsnrr. 'I'ha.Lisr.urrcr.t.,r;ic. 111r. Ihnr.~'.t.t.. 'f6r nutllrr c:tuhl lie Imndlyd nt}tniui'lrtlicrly nil6- nnl, n.ny onns or burdrn Ilr.itq! plarril un Ihe pnlcnl.inl dr.frud;ud ;:uu I Ivl'rcr:lt hlr. I11xorv. '191:11. is cnrrce.l., sir. hlr. 1hNlnste.. And Ihrrr tconld be prul'isioac fw ordnrl)- uod rnn- fiuned supervision of otvlm's i5surd by the Frdnr:tl '11utlc ('olmni~sion;.lmni~sion; mu I corrorl.? N r. I h zoN. '1'Lnl. iv rip;Lt, ci r. 111r. I)INtn:l,t. \1'illtnld.Ihn ro~orl lo iuili:diou of f1u~ILer ~riluiwll Ilrurcrdint!s for fuilnrrlaraulply,:nn I cnrrrrI.? PI r. I)I soN. 9'L:d. is ril±ht, sir. Mt. IhNar:le.. 9'6is, crry frnulcly, is uutclt Lrllrr fruot 16r slnud- pointnf Iho defr.ndn.ntor pnlrnliol defendant; nln I corrrrl.'? 111r.IhxnN. '1'IutLisrif;hP.,sir. Afi'. 1)tNmEaa.. And yon lr.nr broad compliAUee poleer aillLin 16e Pedrrul 'Irndr (`,ommission Acts to ruforce Ihrough :11 vcholr series of dnvionv compfilnce .vitL l.lte Nrtlrrnl 'Prndo ('numtission ordr.rs? hl I'. I)IA(nN. '1'117tt. IS 1'ol'1'rPl.. hlr.1)INula,r.. W6:d.:tmlhmr2 nlr.l)txoN. Aflrrnnurdrrisis,vurdbyIllr.('ommin~inu? Mt. I)Ixrnua.. 7'es. hlr- I)rnnnr. Once nn order is issuetl I>.v Ihe ('ommissiou, if :t li0-day Jmriod is allowed to pftss withoulC n pcl.ilion for review 1 it bccowtts inld. IIIlrco)nes final by virluc of Ihn stahdu LavinG saul it. is finltl. Theu if it, is violaled -well, first Iltn la.tv rcyuires lhcut, sir, to givo ns:n rcport of complilmcc us to hutv ILtrv are o.auplyinp; tcil II tllr order. ~r . , .,. ~,..i :c ~1... t ...'i ..,., . u.1....,.,t',.. ~I,.....

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Jli r:luAUk'rrPl I.A131:I.LN<{ ANtI ,1u1'P:n9'IsLNt---190a 97 1'I(I11tf:'I°I'X: 1.AItIII.INtI ANP APVLIIt'1'Ih'INfI 11105 Nulr, il' Ine rnwrn anJ :Inv, Itlnl, I:v i~ iunuunivrtl hui hr nku il,. L,rwurn. u,<:I ro,wll.ol' Ilwl. r.nLjrrl lu Il:r I\I11 I'nnr nnJ rllirl uf . I iim i: nf I Iw IhIJir:ll Tladl <'nwwi>:',:iuu .\rl. Nn nv Ir.ttr vuuln rlllh: lonuauti nwpunsiLilil.irs lu.rr. Alr. Kul:Nrt.ar. No1r, Ivt, lwl nsk 1'nu ngnin, dnes l~uur Irmlo rrgii I:cl iun rnlo nlllily luvil;:unllvs 16:tt go iult: rsport.? Alr. IhXltN, i u'ill rrnd I.IIis. Tll'. I\UItNl9:.\v. IIIU 1'11I19J Itllllorrun:-iidrr:llinn Ilrrc? Dlr. I11suN. I lrill rrnd romlurrro Ln cnu as dtlinlcl in Illo VwLI.:'. 'I'rntl<, (luwuti5siun .1(.1-lunl tl{re unsnrr iti " }<n " >\tt'. KuleNeal.n'. All rihht, Ihnlis lill I lc;ndetl tu lautlc, Mr. CLail 11nL11. '1'Iwn overy Ilnelcnnon uf c.ik:urt.les, il' 1'onr rulo ;,runs inlo ell'nal:, Ill:n is sLil: tr~d ont nf tLis votmt.r,y 1n br, sal<l in n foreign nnliun: .rill I~rnnrlca~, I:Ibolyd tvit.h y<au' letuviar Ilrll, yrnn prupovte in your rnlu: i- I IIn6 corred:? Tle l)IS<:N. I f they nru pnoknhtid in purlcnt;rs lu Iv sold In rnu r:u Incr~, you a fc Ponrre.t, si r. Nlr. KnrzNr:u.1r. 1'as, sir. And 1 nr;mmn Iltul. 1un lmull tLnlt lu.~ yt',lt' Illr. Ilititotl ytnl.os sold n{lpruxiwalnl)' $I11 ulilliun lvorlh nt cil;n rcl.l ('s i n f ornigm m lrkVl a. \1r. l)INnx. I :uu am:ur.of I:Ila.l,.ir. Nr. K<ncNer.%1-. :1nd I aw snrr ILnl ynn nrt rncnrr nf Ihn diuiu.i tlltin:ll:uJn;~e. Ilwl. I61c :AWrrirnn nl:uulfnrlw'orv of el,l;nrrl.Irn 1tun1~1 h:e pl::rc~l iu as fnr :1,.:'nuqm.l.iu~~ lvitll fnrrihn msnufnrl.lnrrc 1r6irL <6~ uul t':Irrl' }1'arnin~ lu6rlv oa Ihcir cignrcl.lc,c. Alr. I)IxllN. 9Ine ur,n,murutrnuld bo m:ul<,Sir. 111t'. Kolwr:lur. l'a<, sir. And ilf lvonltl 6nvo it err1~ mnrktd im lnrxviun nnd ullI npon 16r. IrJ:lurr. ,rl' I:nYmonlv t.bnl, wn nru su rnn trrucal uhuut in 16is:.rnnltry :tl, 16i~ liluc1 itin'ILhnt, ri;,~~hl.? ~Ir. JhsuN. No. We londn nu iorilnl.inn Ln t6r Inbntvo rnwllani:. t.u rorne rigidl dmcn Imd Ia.11c a6on1Ilulll und thqy h:l.von'6 Nhowed up 1c1.. '1'I1r.y rtul runl, dnmu Lllrrh. ;Intl runvinrr lw. Ibnl-I ivc Intr/l (~1 runrll!;h al' :1 Itrublonl ju:<II leorrviur n6m11l uur prol,lt nml k1. IhrI ullnl rnnolrirn llurn' a hmti.I.llr.m, I Ihinl: I lluuld IiJrn lu Illrnl, vir. M1lr. I:unNla:er. Htdl, I nm I r) iu:-, I,, I:ninl intl1 lu n:n, llltt ('6n1: tunu, I6nl. IIlin is n l,i;,~~ I/ru~l:,.iliau Lllnl cnn +n-r nndarlakin;,+, null Ilull ilt iu vnlreN n. w6ulelo6 af Lhml,n. NI r. 1)IXON. 1Pa vtv'.y rlu~uly;±al rrul reuxll M.r. Ka1cN><.r.n}'. Aud il. is nut n quvrctimt wlletlmr thte cnnlpanir rn.ulu Jnmru LLrroe n.nd hl.Il.r.l tn )uu ur :lidn'11 tollc tu yutl. ''ha <~ur,. tinn I Inn asking ,ynu iv, `c7sn't it I.rne Ihnt. if Ihis rnle goes into etfrv'1 uud Illnl. Ameriran ciRnrnltes, arr InLrkaI in n fn5lrinn thal.y'nn prnpe " 1odolhnl.il.Ncoul<lhavonntnrkrdcll'r:i ullonlhebala.nueofpaymruiuf t.6o I)nilyd tilnlpsof Atnql-icn? 11fr. UrxuN. 1 Inirld. rrmin,l yrnt ILnI rull 6nt1 hrlltr Pny nlltnli~m lo Lllalt ill snuln nl' t.hrm hills Ilml. 1'nn nrc IislruinR to lle.m ludal. 11fr. Finu'n hill npplic.ti lu I'nr<irn runuurnv. I nut goinr lo rrnd ILrn: nnlL to vou. Alr. Kn¢N:zunr. I wu well :Iw"u'r uf tL:l.l, n1r. CL:lirnl:l.u. Nfr. I)unN. 9'6ry nro in Iert. ,11r. KunNet:.1v . \C:JI, 1 nln 1rr11 ullnrr of 16:11, nntl I sul :IL;n nw:n'n :f Illn far.L l Im1. 16e Lil1. Alr. Qt:rrl'>y Nr. l,'nnnr.y, nnJ kl r. NI'hrn bnrn iulrullutvd :qmrilirtllly taewllL cihnrvllls I;oing into fortihn rwu'krls. VIr.IIISnN. 'I'Lisisftdnciti;iun farl.LoCungrrvs. VIr. Ku11Nr:nA1'. iV'olI, Um.t, is Lrue. I knolc tLnt, ns far ng tho hills u'r cnnca+rned. \Ir. fhsoN. ('on{.r<ws pnssrd this bill in tAI I:unl drlined vownlrrrn :d IIra1.I.itnr,:m<l il.lurln<Ittl fnrnit;ncuvuuarrc. \Ir. ICnltNlm.n~. 1\'OIl,,vun tcill n<I Alilh Inr, Irill you uo1, il. lnoltltl Ilavu nln nllrr.l. nllon I Im hnlanr.e ul' luly'Intuls'/ VIt'. IhNUN. Any'lllinl; Ilmt gnrs nLrnud ILnt is ntnnufanttn'ed Ilero anJ issdd 6ns nn oll'rct un tlLebnl:nnr nf pnymmnts. Afr.IL<irzNw:.1.. \II ri~rllt,vir; I ll:lnk ynn vtI.y tnnrlt. Nnw, incnl'nr ns thc. InLcd 1e6irtt yon suMm,~l, ynn told ns on st,rrral /~rrnsinns t6a1. 1~oa wuuld nult put. it, in yaul, antl it, trnldtl nnt. 6ce urrocs:u'y In In:c I6e vxur.l-tvunls Ihnl nrr-runlniurvl in yuur prupotird eule. I,rlntt nslr )vu ILis, Mr. llhairmm~. 1Y<ntlll itt b<~ arrrss:u'y for Ihn indusll}' In inrludrl in :I1 lt:n'nlnll Irtmnl:lrtl In V~unl' Irndp rrlndalinrt rnl:, t.he lr<:r:ls "o:lnt.rr nutl tlrnllt.) Rfr. lllxnN. 1 tlo nnL thinlc sn,sir. plr. 1(uexv:r,.n'. You dn not Illink sn? All'. I11xnx. I Ihildc f6nltlLO}' rnn gcl16is ulrssnao onrt' in :lilfrrtut lrnyre finm tllat. I~Lr. JKhnNRIL\}'. NII I'It'[Ilt,sir, fllnnk 1ou. Non', yrntr rnlr. I ho ptlipnst+ uf ih ns 1 f,ml il, So fnr ns nilerrl i4iu~~ nnd In6nlin~ ic ennrrrnrd is In inforul the Smuking puFli< Lhul rignrrlir SIIIIIIfllll[ is l1itY..11'lll/lls, t1i111d~vPr'UIW tn' :Illy nII119' \1'nl'tIS 1'nll tlnnt In nsr nslnltrnll Il, is 16at rirhl ? \Ir.l)Ix<:N. I tlitt I1n1.nInlP1'FI:IIIII I11:11,811'. Afr. 1CunNf:u:1r. I s+ v iu5uf:u' ns 1<'nn nrr, ns I nud<nsl:uld il, this rldn lcLieh ynn lm1~o llroponrtl, Ih<+hnrpnsr. of it is to inf<nvl 16r cmok- iu 'nlblicII:nlri~nl'rl.lcsmnl<inhiv6nanrdoaGInLen11:L. \1r.lllxnx.'Phisisrurrrrt,sir. '1'hici~nnrfindin,~nfd<reption,the f::ilnn: lu vr ndcitiv iti dcecpl.iw+. Alr. 1CnnNVn\r. An<1 ilt is n ~cnrniu;r, I 6rlirrt rnn usttl Illr nnnl. n vrmniup!t:f tllrllnng::rrtiuf:+nwl:iu~. ,\h'. I)1 x<m. '1'hl. hnz:uvl o f slnnkim~, l his i5 rorrr~./. Mr. KnvNln:Ar. Antl this is lltn }vay y::u wr trying In "gct ynlu' mr~.wt;;r,nnrnss" lu Ilm Alnnricnn 1lJdir.. \I r. 1)txoN. '1'l t is i s cnrrrnt, ei e. Alr. ICnnNen.1}-. I n nl hrr words, it is-- AJr. Dtxnx. 'Pllis is the wny we nrc byin;; In rtrl;y nntI our resllouvi- 6ilil y of lcl.lc rn fnrrrmrnt,l think is tnm'c nrnrly rorrrcf.. \{r. RattNaanr. ln orlher murds, il. is infnrtnnt.ivn in n:tlarr, is il. nul 1 hn1'u :A6'. 1)lal:v. 9'hnlis c'nrrc<.l, sir. 11nleols tllo tvstt nF t hc nltl I <aid Ihis tu yon be.fnro in the rocnrd-- thn old coulnl<m law dn,-Irinn of implird iv:u-rctnl}' nf 4tft`In A hl'M11N4ll thnf is notcnfr, tLen t.6is nnnlt3 nlart tLr. ptnnhn5or Limt. it. ie h:lr.:udnnc- l lo is ptnplv~ly ndcisrd 1-6tn he bavs il. At. t}lal. timt Lt~. is n<hisd. Mr. Rnent,:r.A.-. \1'e.Il, t.hctr is ulso nn nlt3 cntnroon In1l' tlncl.rinc, ~°1 t<nl elnlll or.

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66 alrwUrA'rl9 I.ARbItiNU .wu AuvnntPt,1IN(1-1ofi5 'I'6e (lnanlnl.trr. 9'hnn tehtll. yull nrr tinying is Ihul. Von dn 6nvo;ur ILurilp lo ttrrile Illr Inuuun---o. nml uty 161s m11s/.lw il.? nlr I)ISom. If tllnlt it; lllr.only tcut~tcnr:oldd dtA+rluiur.l.ll:t(.it.wonld hradcIptololydone. ~ \1'n dill unt 4o Ihut in onr ruln nn ai~tarollcs, Ah. (;hait7nnn, hr: r.nuao if )uu uill uulire in our rulrv ,cn did uul.1,n1. any qaole:u'uaml 16u/.loul;tu:~e. AYarxl,rrssed/.hnlllonprIll. 'I'ho I'tt.tnt,tAN. I:nn .1lad vnn ,Ir:trotl Ih:tll np. I Lltout;ht. yon ltall. n1 r. tIYn IIirl nnl, sir. I I Iliol: I llnl. i~, where it is ruulinl± frrrln. As iu I Ila I>illv L6:11 trn ure ronsi:lvrinl,, , 11tu1. ynu luy, e.onsidrriut; right Lrrn~ 1.6r, In.n;,uu;,n aw lu Ih: mtuniu,r il: iu qunlal.iun. T6ene i, Lo ohoicn Ilrrr., l'ou pasv it, Illis is Ihn vn.p illg goiug In hr.. I llnvo taid lo yun Illnt if ynu Ilttws trllat, i,v raluirr.d oil ILolobcl,I will nssuro wn Iho ('nwtnisnion will ullnpt, I lull, soulo Iongun:_n for ils cu forcetnent u 1' ilv nllvrrtiviu~ rnqaintutnin. Alr. Ifrencla ol' 'Ib.xns. Nlr. Ilisnu, you tcotdrln'I. Lavn :tny r.6oice, trOn111 Vrlll ? ~ :\fr. I)ISnrr. 1.voolJ suy I trnld:l Irr tni~,ht:a opid no1.141 fnllow il,. Alr. Itour;tlu of ''rxn5. Nell, I Ihildc ILaI, if Ihn I:ttr of tlLis lnnd is wrillru Ily Lhe Conw~rr~s, 16ndldy r.leotcd reprrsctdatives, is gningto bo dicru;;-:lydell by rummivsions Ihnt tcorei crratead 6y Llte. Oongrrss, we nrod Lo Lntu somn ol.hcr l;ind af n henrin;,. Maybo I nm mixcd np ou I6iv, bol. I Illont;ld. I.Icdd uor trhola nunstitntinunl proc~sv nf (lov- nrnulcul, t,as 111.91 f ('onre.s lulssrrl (Ito lel*islnf.iml. Yon saa.y Lhntl if CouOress pnssrs this Irt{islnl.lnu nnll rrqnires t.his crrl.itiralr, tlud: is ILe l:ttr. 'I'hall is lr;.isLll.ing. Afr.lhxoN. As(olnhnlin!;-- \Ilr. l,'nr.r:n.s of 7'r.vn::. 11 ('ungrro; dors notl tln Illis pon lakr. ILo Imvi(inu Ilud, )'nu l1AVe Illa n,qlLnrily lo du il, ArlLirly in Iny ol,iulon, troldd Ine legisjat.inr. Rlr. Iltxurv. Il:nin the unllloril~" I mu mldcr I1LC ntlmoniliou of Llw lnw n.nll sworn lo euforco il, and yon hnnn't pruemldrll it. I Eyon 'ms.s thn so-r;tlled nfo"nnsou Ilill, titu;dor Rfognnsnn's bill 16a1l is Lnsll iu tuY 11611.1 fut a minnlr, LLn.l only upldirs to Ihn 1a6r1. nfl..Num:r.s of'1'exns. Yrs, vir. IAI r. I)LCOH. I t. snys nnlLin;; nbouL sdtra~l.isin~. Rnur:¢sof'I'exu.s. 1 rv,sir 6fr. lhxon :It, lwtves 1.Intt. 'I'herefore, wLat I haco Lried to sny to tLo comntilluu hrre,, nurl av 1 tried to s;t , y 1'0 llte Senale, Ihen you ironkl leave this Counuiwinn nwlrr ILe ndmonitiott of enforcing a law as to uclvo.rl.ir;ing I:ha.l, is uulsltutdiul{ uow. I httte said to them yon rnn lveetnpl. Ilns, ns in yoln bill. Rfttllor,lac4ofTr,vnu. Well,uotv,lrl'spntitminl6erwuv,Tfr.Dixon. Yon Ice.rll lallcing nbnul, pmroyrl.iut,r. 'I'he Uongress isu'I prremplintg anyl6inl, front a.qybuJy. Yun Jon't. _.rt. nny Itorvnrs uulr'ti Ilu C'on- grc=sgi,os ILetn /nyon. >AIr. I)izurr. 72nt n(!nn;,rrss has ulrrnlh' fTiven us Ihee pmrrr, i1fr. 1to1',cr5. nl r. Hcxnunts of'I'rxn4 I nnllecsl tm,l. Ni,w, Illnt ig ttlm.l. yon say, bnt snluo nl6rr I,euple tlno'G Sny Lhnt. 5ul,l,nvt. tro pa~;y Ilw Alatr!nusnn bill ,rLir.6 hns to do only tt'illt l:tbrlin" nntl leaves nal. 1.6n ndverl isiog. Nrltc, it is yutn Itnsil.ion 16n11 yrm Ilntr Iln.:nd6orily undrr.moliun !i In Irvlllll',: ,A':II'Itlll!!"till IUII'Itlllll~, i, rll IllrtllII HhO Inll..lr-' pll-I'.1 t1ui.1tUti1'1'rl ]~nwanfJU ANP AUVnarrb+INl71!16( /i7 bill s:ll'in;, Ih:ll. it upplird lu cig:lrrllr I.Ihclin{; ttnd Ilidl(I Inrnllou II Il S' 1'PI L:1111~. nlr. Dlxurz. lI sn.y ILnI. tvil6 all tesl,eol.:uld luuuilily tct. Lnve, l.llat antllnrily. Ntr 1.nnr:u4 of ''exas. Yrs. (lf cnluwc, tL:ll, i.s snurtlliug else vice diller ou, bul, t Ilnl. isyom yosil iou. I just tsnul. to Rcl. Iltn record alcar nn 16eFm malters. No,c, o,.Ino.lly, Alr. I/ixon, (his is Ilm lirsltilno iu ILo 11irAury ILuIC pUII IIII.rP. ItInIPIItlkell Iry tlli5 IyP" nf trnllo rrl;tllnli:m Ir: rnauliltc au enliro mduslly ill :Idv:uce ttx lo tchtl6 il4 in tinppnu'd In (lu, isu't. i1.4 1klr. 1)ISUrv. Now, uf rum:w, wilh I lu r4,lmrre nf Ille. rll'rol of tt l±tverttl trncln rulo, yes, but, Iwltnlerl to reminll you thnt, sinee 11,28 or thero- nbnuts tlho Cotnntission Lns betn hn.vin{C similnr prvxeedin;;s which wo rnll trnde prnetice conferenc,e rolrs ;nnt tcu have nbont. 16:1 of (Jtose. i\1 t.ltoo)ats of'L'ocna. 1'es, sir. Mr. DIXON. So IC is 11ot. Crlntlllt.Ie.ly nrtc. lt is juslt n procedurul slep that is dilfrt'mlt. 111r. ltan:r..s oCPexna. P,ut. il, i:+ lht, (irst./ilnr. tllttt nn ,ol.irn intlnslry hns b:rn In.luv iu Ly tllis rll:ulrr' (llntt look placn in I!n't!, it d Mr.I)hzorv. No,gir. 1VchncnLalllradnregnln.lionrnleslhnl.inclodu amhulo indnsl ry antl Iradc prnctilc. rnlra. nlt'. l:nanos of 'fuxns. Ntunu onu of Ihosee indntitrirs. Tle. 1)Ixnrv. 'I'ho rnynn rnle. AVrn 111141 u rayun itud1lslry very enrly. 1Vh:m ra.~,m nnrocoatd itlunl:rd jnFl liko cilk nnd there ,cns n m'rnt deal nf :oufnsinn. '1'llrt inrhlGtle rnmt in nnll tce istiu,vl n rnic :u1d lold 16vn16ott~id.6ndlulrl.rrprrcaulod. \1't;,'nt'c.theuln,lvirr.uwlt!ulibnlcc :tnJ srf aul nlLlr rolr: Ih::li wnulJ lurl, t6r.ol uld nf lrooLlo. tc6ie6, in elfrrl., snicl, "Nutv, il' lull do 16i:: y::n :ue. nnlt guin;+ lu 114. in Iroul.ln ait6 Lho lotv I f yult'don'( ,lo tLn.l, yon Irill Ihe snrd." Tlr. I+melt. e of'1'c~xns. 1\utl so ynn Inlce Ihr, luvvilinn tlmt Ihnl'r is nnt lwiylatin;!.Ind trtsu'l Irp;isl:lliug.ril.ll re"onl to Ilte rnynn businr~s4 'P"iley cotne m and asked ) ou,"I I' n'o ndrrrl iso ILis pruduvl, tcn :ue noing in to wlwt tn knotv vvhnt'. vvn rnn du in ndvauro so ILaf. tcn o~on'1 I;etr Ironlde ~eil.ll your Cunuuissinn'4 111r. I)Ixox. '1'lltttt iseorrer.l. AII'. ILuuens uf'I'c.cl,. Au,l,yutl Inl:- Iltc Imsil.inn ILaI. yun Iold Ilxm Ihnt.. Now, did you lay duon rnles :md rn'_'nlnt imtv in Idta s/uur. prnredm1N, cmtforulity ats yon no,r a5r, rvflor 19G_ . Tlr. Il1anN. \\'u ho forlLcr noa brwantin tlletr il. tr:ln n eollmlot;y utoewut;nl. l-Yo duli t tnulcn tllc ollicinl nolico whero uccryLudy is put on nulirr, sn Iltul. if Illr:y tlun't rnmc tLoy um't, say IIu+)~ tlidn'Is ho.ve a aLnuc.olor:umn. Nmvaropubli4hil. 11r. lllnm.r.s of 7't.ns. Now, dirl yon rrquire IUrnl In Irul1 trnrnimn nnlhoroynn$ 111r. I/IZoN. Oll, nbviousl,y nnl; nn, sir. '1'llere wos or, nelrl fnr il. Alr. Hola:.ne nP Trsas. Wnsn'1. thrl'n snntn rayou s,vr:tihr4Ihn1. I.dcte up~ nll. ulenrr. 'I'hry hnd lu n.acal 16;1( il. trns nrd. cill:. 'IIl:dts nu nllirtnnt.ivo requirlnnull s:tyiur Il,iti lonkc jnsl( lilu willc. If yon dnn't. Ir11 snmrhnlly iti;:n'L,~mmvlludy tcill Fhn1' Ilnulcinl( it is. Alr. Itnurun ul"1'rmna Lrt. tnn nsl: ynu Iltis, nll'. Ilicnn. If ~cr lttt.cs ~t lLill ",n1 ImNi nI:I N( on lh" I,nl-_.. il. muulJnl.rhauo r.nl iul:: uf ll,n

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58 Cn1Al(P7r'1'6: LAIIIsIdN/{ AND APCIIItTISIN(7-It1G. 1AIr. Kooralsu['1'rvns. Whl' un1 F 111r. IhxuN. Rr.rausa 1. 1.6iuk trllnl1 i.~ iulpurl::nt, is to tr:n'n ILrm nLoul, f.llc tlumh,rrs of suuulcimg, nul, hutl' you smolcr, /lla vip;urnllc tulul:iul; :Is vucll. l~uu uro suylng unlrss yonl iuluJe aI ni;;:lre.llc ---- NIit Riw:mns of Tusas. IVihy tvoldd you not. al:al wurn 6in1 n1Nlu1 vit;:Ir~lnokn or piI esuloLiug? Alr. I)Ixurv. Iirrnn;o. Lhrro hnn Ilrvn uo lindiug un tLnl, sir. 1:nn not n nledirll d:minr. 1 dn uol, i/rufrs:: lu lut, bnt ILo kreMrsL sricu- Iiliu Rroup t.llat evvt,nl. tnn.dn Ilns /iudinn. 1 aln uol: going to whqe lvit.lt it. Plr.Itor.t:ns of'1'exns. Rutyuu lnltn l.lle losilinn tLen /llnl. ci).:uolt(s tuo.dn ol' Illo snwo IuLnccu ns:t , ILn.t ~x+caltse I,his advisory group lnts ho.f(I Llmt cignrolln sulol:in;;- ;uld Ihn,y did not refer to inlulln- i.ion ;tll.ltougll their fiudiuks refur lu inlmLd.iou, nnd Ihe. Sm'µeun tlr.nenll 6:t, Irslilie(I hofnra. I.Iliti vcry colluuillro 16ut. I.6n iohulutiun cnnsed Ille hlng c:ulcer, Ihal you lcould nnl 6n prunc 1+( nu:vr iuto Ille lirltl uf oalliur 5uulnlhiogtle.rrld ico if n r.ig:n- nns nilverl.ised, bnt you trrodtl i f a ci;;orette trns ni h'erllsr<I. Plr. I)ISON. Ifnl il t llc Loll,y n l'rxlrert upinion jells ;ls l it;hlly as i/ hns ou t-lw cil;nret.lr, slunking, my lnulds n.rc lind, sinr. I I(at-o nu baly of exirort opmion I u 1.03 upuu 1'or suy in~r+ `° Son Lavo gut to pnfl a lrarumn nu nigar snlokin;;.° P~IrM lioar:ns uf'1'mns. I tllou,r,'Lt, 11Ir.1)ixon, tLnt yon tcantr(1 to I{o nrunnd 1 ho jnQir,ial :um of LLis (#ovi.rntnrul. Ir(raulsn 11m lululiaisl lal ivn nl,mw.y ttas worn plin6lu lu h:mdlo Ihrse ma.ll.lv's,:utd )kute yon oanl.lu rr.tiorl. In tnl r.nperl.grnup Oil sumr.16in1;. Afr. Ihxox. I cnn only ae.l, nflnr an expelt group vntdL as this ho, ucl(xl,,il,unlessvonwanl.lnpnl. -- IUr. I:uar.r.v nf'I'exnn. I)o you nnl.ll(ink n court. ftudinh uflcr a. full 6rnrint; undr.r tLn ronstit nt.iuunl pncedn res lronltl cousliI.nlo lut expcrb findinl±on o nutl to.r of tlli, kind? T91. 1)Ixox. Con;,+res,umn R.oRnv~, Illrrn is nnl. a I:ttryrr ill ILiv ruout--vld Lllern nrn plnnly of Illein 6arl:llr.1r.; 1 recognir.o Ihnnl-/hxt dons nul, know 16at un(Irr Llu, rulo tcr, 6nvc is5ucd, ho has still got, his ronsl.i t.nl,inunl sn fegua.rds unt onr,n bul. I tvirr. nlr. Rontuls ot'Ibxnv. Yon :ure not a;;ninslIh:d, areyml, N7r. I)ixon? )11r. UISUN. IPhy,cortniuly nol,sir. t)ne llroccsv is YLo t,rron.tosl. Ihinl,r tro lla-t'o in t6o country, nnd I Ila.vo not nsut'ped Ilur. Ilroccz;; is lchnl. I nnl I I_yino, to s:ty to yoq. Air. ltoukals of'1'exas- lint yon do to n cnrtnin extent nnder Ihe Ad- miaisl.rtl.ivr, I'rocA.dnrr,s Ar,t If you m;d<e n findinp mlder this silua- liou, oten if yun blls~e it on expet1. Invl.iulony of :nt ndvisory coulnlil.ir.c, t Ilo com'tt is bound Ily Ilul.t, is it not.,TL. 1)ixon ? nlr. I)IxoN. 1'Pn 11ln.vn not.iced ns one, of Lhn Ilnsra for ILn ndn lt-Lich wo h,rno prnlnnlg:tlyd tvn have Iaken nul.iro of nulny Ihin;,re, uot unl,y I Iliv 6ut seieul ilic docluurnls llnt woro insual in ot-hel r,ounl ries. nL. ItoqMlttiof'Ib.crls. I undr,rsl:wd. ]1tr.UlsoN. An(llVyothcrrrr(iqnir.rdlnrdirnlbodiea. I11r. linur:¢s of Te.~as. I undnrslaud Lhal.. Rnt yonr lindinhs--nn Itiuttv.enr Lhq\' a 1n 6nsrd_- iu'n bindinl; on t 6r. cotu-Is, aar 16ey not? Alr. I)ISON. 't-6oy tcoldd 6r, sir, if thry nrosnppotied by suhslludinl rciilrure. ~ L'IUAItI:I"I't: LNnVL1NG ANP AI:VP11tTIRIN(1--1965 lfnlGxlr:nsof'Pcx:.s. Notvlvail.~ust.awiuule. Tfr. UISoN. 1\'llnl.l.6ocout'twou dllu.votorccicre-- IIr.Pouracvuf'1'uzas. ]'ous;tidsowelllinghere. Wluttisslbslnnlinl e idnnco 9 ltlr. 111xoN. 11 is mnro ilntn seinlilln 1(a1.lrss fho,n prepnnilrrnncr. lAlr.ltur.l:te:;of'Pemns. Andl6nt.mr:(nstuldel'lltnlindingN nfnlnn-yot ILn cowIv:uly sf nlr.lnnnt IhnlI dorn not. tnfldn n'lutl yon olnim. A[r.U1xoN. 1 temddsnyno,sir. 'I9u, cnurlsonn nnl.ltxlroadyloslnp as on Ilto hn.cl<. ''hqy slap us dotvu evcry ch:ulcn, it s(ruts, 16ry ~ot.. Mr, llauas of''rxns. 1 nnl going lu qnit now, M.r. Cha.itmnn. 1'ime is ,>aesing 'Phnnlc yoa vmy much. .. Air. l)IxoN. Ycs slr. ]'Ve vvill !ln back at 10 dclnclt, Tir. (,hairomn. 'Pho Cnnuenrnx. Yes; it. is Sllggcsled ynn comn back al. 10 o'cLx c. We will rosnolo Willl fmlhe.r qnostions Itraause of tllo imprntlmce ot Ihis. I think your tesl.imony is higlily imporlant. )tf r. l)IxoN. 7 nudersl::unt. 'Phe (hrAlnnrnN. '1'6e nlealbers lvill h:IVe full oplrorluuity toq ucstion you about. this n~llolm m~ttet and yonr aclions lcading up to Ilto issn- nnce of tLe 1 rado practico rale. 'l'he couunit lso w ill recess unt.i l 10 o'clock iu the morning. (Whermlpon, ot 12:05 p.In., t.lle conuuittco recessed, to reeonvcuo at 111 a.m., Woduesday, April7, 1965.)

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.f1 1'IILAI(P%1"1'P: LAIIP:LINU aNn .Allt'141t'19SIN/i---,Dnfi by 1.6cir ull'nrt. ill ,uuking, pldrli<+;tlly nud all iuforund.ion \r6ic6 roldtl bnonnsitlrrrrl dolrlerioun. Nol.\ci16W:u1Jinl; ILiS, Luwrwr, il is ury roltcidoled jadgmrut /lm.t( il, truuld La n serious uiislnkn lo y,rivc lo Qlo Ih,p:uUnrnL of ll<.111k, Rilurnl.inu,:lnd NS~Ifalrr, IIIe Feder:ll'I'rndo Colunlissinu, or nliy olJlel Vrdarnl xgenc.y Iho n~gulnlol,t' poarr uf InlHaing Iho eolllr.uls of a puckage of r.ig:urlles as bein~ ilangorous lo health. Jn ul ' y opinion, t.he Fedornl Trade. (:umminsiun 6ns t;one Lu Ucgond ils jurisdicliou iu irsniug the It'udc rrgldad.iun rlJn culrenlJy~ dnr ta go into e/fect nn .luly 1 of this yenr 'I'hern aro nlnunrous :uld divrr.n rc:lsuus for tlly hs.viu{., renr6ed 1.6is aunr.lusion. Dtuny disl.inguishrd :unl le;true<l w:ientisls fts.l I lud it hns not bern delinitely rsln.6lisllcal IAlat smoking cttnses disensa ]n many n ronx t.lLrru nppc:u l.) lte Imrcrtnint,y Aud n p.nlcity of fn.cts upan whick to bnsn uorrr.ct nssunlptions. '1'klw in<liuales 1 knt there is :t glaring o nd utgeent. mx>d for nse.urAt. I<lu nott frel il, is np rroprinle ur in Ihe Lc.t, inletrst of the Atnrricam people In have out nt~litlury :md nrhniuisltat.ive nctimi lalken by n gnrnrumentn.i ngratcy in thls couur+..l.iun. Siuco Lhis prolblem ia st/ <cidn iu srol>n :md uf ule.k snst im orimlro to so m:nty people, I nm uuuciurr<L t.hal, yhould it. prnre lu lro ncrrxunr.y fnr auy aclion lo he I:tla+n, it. sllould IH; tukeu by III<t ('uugirss \vhitdt roprt.spnts, u.n<I re- wnins closn Iu, ILr peopln tilftT.led lly ILis ulal lcr. ll, muslbu rtv'up;uir.ed totlu.y th,lt tnillions of persons tltronghont tlto <rorld (innlarling tLo mnjorily of mcu nm) trumrn in tkiscounf,y) on- joy t.1m Lene(ils uf plrnsuro nnd di<-ersiou derived from smnking. tinon a.ftrr 1.6n Snrgeon lienernl's keollh reporl. <ras puhlis6rol uml Ihn iu I'urlmrl.iou Ivns disseminnted vinll ur.\rs media, I nb:trou nonsnnlpl iun derrrunrJ. Ilonrver, Inlrl, s:llrs rnsr ns people drniJrd lo use their <rtcn jndgmcnl in Ilm m:lltrr. 'I'Lis Ims shon'n Ihst.ILc aso oF t.nbar+:o i~~ :t j<vlvmu rerluror trhiclt, in nddilirtn to the pl<:IsnraLlo 6cnrlils of snlokiul;, m:nly prnple liud lo hn urretis:n;y In their srnse of.eell-being :Ind, rchnt's ulnrn impurl::nt, a houn lo Iho individnnl sl.nlo of good hct116. 1'eulllo Lnvu rraol Ihe rr.ports, Lnv/. nnal}'zrd I.ke slnlrmenls:lnd Ln.vo mn<lo 1.6o d<u:ision nol, t<tdrliy Ihem,crlrc~ l lln rcal plrusnres:nlJ t:ulgiLlo Le.uelits of smukiug. 'Pherefore, Lhe Inbnling of cihnurttn paultn.gen in I.hn maluler prnpnu:d Ly tllo li'e.lrrnl 'I'nlde Oorrmlissina is slwut, its vadid na ktbe,lin pnckn~es of bnttnr Ih:tt nn exr;essire constnnpl.ion caulil prodnco o Irsil,y, willi tlto poasibilit.y of n resullnut d:mgvronsly Ligh lucnl of cLulr~tcrol, or (he lubeling of nll liquor bot.l.los tar sllow LL:IL unconl.r<dled unnsuurpl.iou of Llhu pro<luct. could prrslncc vlu'iuns llenlt.ll Intzartls. (:r.nl.leule.u, uul. lu I,t+ tuken lil;llf IS in Ilm aonsiderat ion of t.llis mnl ler i. 16e iiul:urlnurr uf Il:r tolruc. u indmlrc nv Iln *8 I:illion eulrrlrritie. Lilrrully, milliuns of persons drymml dirorl.ly ur imlil'ec.lly a lun ta- hnrrl, fnl' Illrir licrIiLnurl. 7u I111UI, sum<. ;dltl,l/tl0 fm'ms---¢it'lt:wluo 7(1(I,U0/1 flum f;nnilias-prurlueed IoLncrr, trLirh Imd n r.eslt v:dlm <tf nre,r$11.aLillion% baporlsnflrlfloL,iocu:nldloha.<a:oprudnclstnl:ulyd mnrc Ihun $W3 olillion in lllfi:i. :A pprusiundrlv, $a,3U0 millian tront inln lonn.l, 5141q :nut l~rdrr;ll Irrnr,urir- frnin I:ISrs nu ri}d:n'rl.l.rs in 1963. f)ILrr indu~lrirs urn vrr,p <kIiniloJr IIII'ectcrl I>y 1,110, lo6arrn in- dnala' sur6 an n. lwrli~iug, Ir:ulr.p4,tlalit,u, Ininliulr, pnprr, atld ulr ('rIL\nlt9"19E LAnP1UNC ANn AUVPnt'rIHIN(;--I,Infi .i/ m<nrolw ot.llm's. (±nlsiderinl! Ille inywrlance rnf tLis iudnslry to our Nntion iIs n whole, tya canloul, we tunwl. u.n1, lnke uc,tiun \vhirll iw Inimirnl In its brnll inlrrr,ls o'ithnut lir,l. 6nving drfinilo nndconchlsivc plvof t Lat lun6 <l ru 0in act inu is nr<x,ss;uy. At. 1.Lo sn.lno Iime, it is 'lowsible. ond ueressnry to be nlindful of nny heullll hnzard wLiclt migltt exisl. Since we IIo nott kuow the som~cu of thn injw'iuns ell'ect of tohueco, il. \rutdd he ill atlvised to condtvun till t.obarr.o unt.il we lmoo' wLnt, lup;redirnt ot the lenf sLotdd Ln re- movrd. }Ve mn.A. uot ovrrlonl: I he F.rrt Lkatt rvidenre ltns shown t6nt the Llning of vvl;elsbin libers nthor I luul lolmreo luts tlw sll.lue inher- rld, prolrrrl.irh nf con/:rinin;; po=siblo varrinngenic mnterials ns LLose nllegedl,y found itt lobacco. IVL'. Ulmirmnn, Low elsn rnn we clear np this entire picture of con- fusiott, of disptrnte points of view, of contlicl.ing npinton, of ktck of knowledge, except, by am<luctinlg prcKJigions, painstaking, nntl itden- sive rrsearv'It in ILe rontlm oF tLe tob:uTO plnn(., il'solf, nnd tlto elfects of srttul:iuw 4 'I'Le mrdirnl cmtier uud ugricnltnrnl experiment st.ulion of Iha llnirersily of Krnl.uelry, Jaxiuglun, 1Cy., and tlw Nnl.iolml 'Iblrarro liese:u'e.lt l.:dror:rlur\ aur cuor.lin:dinl( tlteir clfort.s in cun- necl inn mil k I.ho Iobnrro kenlllt problem. 'I'ley nrr- workiug witlt xcal and drdirnlion on ILee pertiuenld xsprrls of Inhncco rr.r:cnrrh snr,h as enzyuie ellrw6try, idenl.ilirsl ion of lobnrru snloke cousl.il,uonls, nnd so forl.k. I'residenlOsw'nld, of tLc Unive.l'sitv of Kunlucky, himscl,° n srirnlisl, 1111s stnle(1 III11) IJlrl'r is II11 iulrusilieatinn of t!rndn:d<+vrorlc \clliah rnl~ a.cross cnllr,rr, ttnd rlep:lrtlurutnl lines. '19rn tmiversity is 1ovulyd ill a crry iwpnrlnnt-lobaooprtshlriuh nrett :urd \villi il.s re- srarrlt f:rrililir.. In,rrlllrr tvilh Illr. tipiudlrtop retirorrh I:tb ne:u$}', is ul a nnirplr rositiuu lu ruolinnr 1hr resoerrlt prn~l'aut. In vie.vs nf (~rem ilultolaan,n nf Ihr rwulrilndiuu a/' Ikc luhncno iudnc- tly to orn' Ntd iuu,s r<rmuolie <ccll-hriug nnd, fur(hernlnrr, in t'icw of t6c iucobuluviV< rci<lrnrr. upon <ckir6 rlrrhu'lions 6ucr lnrn bnsed :uld t.6n prrninlvnec of tLr ovrrngr cit izrn in pln~sninh 16r Snlol:ing hnlli(, iu spilr of ILe vc:uminq aurd. il npltrvn'~ Ih:tt. itbehr:nceti us lu procerd wilL 16r ulluosi c;ullinu in perwdlmg anv kind nf ln.6rlin;; :n,liuu fnr alt;:n'rl-lu ltnak:l/rr:. I Insl nY, lo'tillv, smvjt a<tion tilmukl nnl hr Inkro unlr,cs f<n'Ihrr null rshnltcl.ivn r,-i-,rnrr6 6ns shu\cu n cuulpcllin.~ nud - ovnr<c6rhning nrrd fnr il uu<1 thou il :hould 6e neramplisllrrl liy k;His lal.ivn utrasurr. 1<r:mt to Ilnutk ynu,Alr. ('llniruulr 'md menllhers of tlm culnrnittre, for nllo\ring mr. Illr t.iulc :Ind Ihr opp,ol.mtit.,y again to prr::rut m,y enucicl.ions nnd vie\rs cunrorniu};' lLis prohleln .vL<eL is of sn<6 p:ura- mount inirrei,t1 lo tlle tobaroo gro<cr.rv, tva.rr.kouscmon, aml altctinnt.rts tt ~l<um I Lnv<, . tkc 6onor to reprrcenl llrre in Cnn{!rrss. lt, is n pro6lem <tllirll is, indrrvl, of vn51signilie.:ntre In all Anwriclulc. 'ILr /'In.\utal Arv. r\ re tltere lurc tlorzl.ions? I f nnl, tco IL:urk yoa for yum. :rltpr:u'aurr, Alr. Clrrlf. ('irnt.t'. 'I'k:nik you, Alr. I:Lnirutn.u. '1'6n Cnnutnlnx. Now we will Lear Iho Ohairunut ond ol.her metu- L<in af IILe lee<Icr:tl 'llaile Comtnisnion. kl r. I)ition, ymn :unl )'our cnika;,nns Inny tadce sonts n.nd I am going In Ir6 yon prr,rol. Ihrm :rnd 16r slall' nnutburs Av6o:ur <cilL yon Lnree fur tht rrcord.

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18 f.IfAltb'r1b: I.AnrItlTr; ANn .U>tlIIYrIFINt---1n6L ou nrq luirkago InlHIttl lu cuufurullly tvllk Ikc 6111s. '1'kc killx nlvocunlnin Fed- ernl uqAluu prntl+luns. yloll111mrv of Ihr prm'Iviml~ of lhr ullla tvould bn 11 :,tl:,tlcluennur puuleknLlu Iry a/lne of unt Inure tlwn fi1/1,/1011. '19re klll ll.lt. A_bt pruvi~lc>a tLnt algtuuilrv ulwll Iw tnuxlilered ln bo miu- bnmtled nnlean ra(ok htd(vlJunl Pnckgu iu ,eldrh rl/(nrrllls nre unnnll.r kult) Iu1N yrlulcu un Ilu oulairlc Ilhc fullnwinti In ele:n: IeFlblc, nurl Plnlul,r vl.rible prnrU /1) 'I'he IJruiluu runltut Wul lec Inr ruulrul. uf lec lulnl ntuuGrr nf elKarvllra in ILe Dmkngc nud ('2) ' Wnndnn -cimlrain pluy Ile Ilnunvn.ux ta, 1lrnltlli ^ I^mfonrwcut S Ihe pruvIslaus nf tkn blll trnWO kc vrAcd In (Ire kitlernl '1'nulrt ('.uwuiiarinu wllh dirrrlinu. lo IILn lluuuuis.uiuu la prevrnt nny Irrnuru from rln- In11nR Ihc furrl;uing Prncluiuu.a ill the snuu uunmrr, Iry Illt auure. uw:uta. :nld witu ILo :mrc jtrrLvdlcllu.n, Iwwrrv, nuil ilulirrt nn Ihuugh nll npplltsrblr lerlnY nud PruvInlunx of the Ycderul'1'rntle Cuneuieauu Act wrre Incnrhrralyd Inln lnld Innde a pnrt ut' Ihe slnlul.e. I'ecvnua vlulullnK uuy uf lke nUnve prnvlxlonn tvoultl Ln subjret G, lLC ppuulflen nutl vlullltd tn Ike {rrivllrgixv nml Irnnnnlili.:v provLlell lit llu Prdrrnl'I'rndtt Ibunldsalnll Art. Immvmrll ns Ihruc meunlura luvnlev couxiJirtl.luun of prlnrury cuurrru to Ilrc Nrilrrnt'rrwAr nolnmiv.ulon nud l.hc hcParlmrnt uf llwllth, 1,Jarnllon, wtd R'el- fttro, Ihe I1e1nuiulont. of .Iu.tltr defer,y tu Ilu tlrtcv uf Ieaau nReucIes tvll.lt rrnpnrt tn It/;lulullun ILt Ihirt IIr10. '1'bu Iturcnu ur Ihc Itudget lu1N advl.nl Ihol. thrrc ia uu nbJrsliuu h, (he mLmlxAun nf IIJx repnrt 1'rum tLr.<Im,dINdul uf Ike ndullnivlrntlun's prullrnm. Sinrenly, Itnnrar:r (h.nmc, Anpnlfl dllor'unp Cr;nenrt. 'PLo (;u,wnl.tx. 1 tllink 1ghanl(1 Illee(.iou Lhe bills flint lnlre been rcfrl'retl lo I1Ln cmunntlee. '1'hren of thcm nre idmlf.innl, lI.lt. 3014 by unr collrnRur from'1'exas, Alr. Hu~gtrn; 1 f.lt. q(J117 by onr c,dlea;,+un frunt Alieersulu, Alr. Nrlatvl, ILR. 711GI by our rullnngur. frnut I'mur sylvnuiu, Alr. ltuunty; nnd I6rrn iv n fou.lili Irill Iry AL,. Ildnll uf .\rizonn, ILK.28IR. 1 tceultl like for Ihnt, bill to I,n inrluder) for coucidernlinn heeance it Inltev nn eulirrly dill'elrel, ulq,rtntv6, nv I undanlnnd it, nnd tcoeld send this mnl.trr lo Ille Fond lutd llrnt; Admimsl.rltlion. '1'6rn:utnllicrLill Ly mauollcll};ua 1'rulu Nc.w York, 1141. Finu, iLR. 484t would retpli.rn I Ilelinre a dill'eretJ. lype of warnin}; on nnctt I,uck- nj;c. l4'u tcnnl. In ngnin welrnlne Ihn ('Ir,tirmn.u l(nd nl.hrr mttlnbrt;v of tLo Fetlernl 'I'rnlle ('ulunlission Lern ILi,s morninr la kirlr off 116,9 Lrarinrr, \In Dixon, lsr wnnt. to n};'nilt thank you fur yuur vonsidlrntinn of this ernblem, yuor roupcrnl.ion wi1L tlln cnnmlilter. I'`ro lalnw I:Lnt. Ilte (.onueissinn nud Lhe sl:nll of #6n Cunmlissieu Lns giren n Int. of sl.utly untl ILnnght, to tLis problenl. We nre gIild to 6ave yuu llac,k ci16 us. I 6elievo filst. Illongh we will henr uur collent,run. That is ILe usnnl ptvw,e.dtn't+ which should prevnil. Firsl. I shmdd like to reenRnizn ILe pr(Kence nf onr cullrognte fronl Neo Yerk, Afr. I'nul A. lt'ine. STATEMENT OF HON. PAUL A. FINO, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CON4RESS FROM THE STATE OF NEW YOAK Afr. Ftxn. Aft. ('6nielnnn nn$ nlnmbtrs nf l.lle cmnmittee, fit:ctt may I Istl;itl hy nsprnssing Iny npprecildinn for ILis nhpolLunity to leslify an behnlf if tu) ~ bill, ILIt. -1241, trhitIl prucidrs Ihnt cnrh p:ukege uf eiprrllrssold ln inlelstnlr rnmmrrec Im Islndrd lvilll n tvrnviug~ uelire ns tcell as tcil6 infornl:diun onnenrniuRr llle tnr suul uirnliee cuntenl, of tllr ri!:mrllr=- I ltnnld :I1>n lil;l. I~. L,~iiildiln,nl 1h' (IUAnPrI"rUl I.,tnbnaNti ANP AuAb:nnFINa--1a6M1 1!1 t.kn wistlum it sltowtal in rts}uevlinR tlte Fede.ral'Pt:'tJn Uelunlivniou to ptst.ponc lLe elfective dnLe of Lhe cil;urette htLeling reqtdnlious nn- ununced br.fore Ihis }!reup Inat .fnne. Now, I wantU to make it clear t.lln.t, nlp In.tl. relnnrk in,plit;v lun c.cil.icisnt wLxlsoever o.};ainst tke b'edolnl '1'rntle ('ommmiesinn. Indoed, llln ('.entiniscion is to Iw cnnl- rnendtxt for its initiative nnd for the well-rensoned nnd docllmente(1 a.rgulnnnls it hresrnlnd in suppert of its proposlxf lrl;okd.ions. Ifow- eper, I recoRlllr.n ns yUn (lo tallti, to nlAernpt to contrnl ci pU'ntte labeling by Culumis5lue n'gnlnlions nlnne is to invit.e yelus nf fit.igel.inn nnd delny ns lllo indnst.ry lights lu nverlhrow suck restrietions. Flvlernl leFislld.iun, it. seems to mr, wotdrl shore up rat.her t6nn et'txte the nu- tknril.y of tko Fe(lernl '1'rade Commissinn in this nnrtter. We share t.lle s111ne princi'ntl cnnrav u-naunaly, ihn proter.Lron of the ceusun1elS. IIlm convmcer) Illat Fetlernl Irgivlntion is rrqrlitrtl to pnanct cou- swuers ndeqnnlely in lhis cnse, nnd I nm vnry plenes(l Ihnt tllis com- Inillen hns bmn xnccrccfnl in uMaiuinr n posl pourmrtlt nf Iht, elfecl.ivn d:tltt uf Ille F'I'C rn gndatiens so Illal. ( lnngrras mig6t. 6nvre nnnlher op- llnrl.unity to eunct l+tRiGlllt.itm In drnl wilk this proMenl. 'P6e rcl,url, of I:Ite Surgeon (iruernl's :1dci:;ury /)nmmil.lev un Suudt- ing luld Itvnltlt wns lirnyelenr, und rnn.quivncal c riR:tlelle smakiuf; is nl;iiocintrd willt it. 711-ycrrnnt, iocreane in Illn uf!n-epcvilic. dtmllt rnlts ef is rnusall,y mnllw. 'I'llc('mnmittrn foued [hntI im men rif,mrclle sluukin;q rrlatetl Ie bolll. hnnt" r:ulrcr nnd cnnre.r of the Inryos nwl parhnps to r:tnecr nl 16e c,opllntpls nnd nriunl}' IrLtdQer us wrR. 'I'he cuelnultec nho fnnud Ih:t11 ci(;;,rollc smnkin'is Ihr mnl;l. iwpurt:tnl. an11~~+ of rluvnin hrrrllc.Lilia in thc. IlniluJ ~Inltv nnd iurrc:rvrs Iltt risk of dying from Un16 rhtnnic, brnuchil.is 111141 ',utmnmury rmphysvwn. 'Chn ,nnt.1 tnudn iL e.leur tlndt for bnik uf tllr populnlion of 16r liuilerl Ittlrs cij!lu'ella snloking fln' sn1'pn5uv nir pellnl.iun ur orrnpnlinnnl nxposnrrti ns tLe lentlinl; cause of t.lleso :uld othrr 6runchopnlwon:uy d i sense:e. 1Vllile. Illn (7olunlil.lce ditl nn/t feel Illr. exist ing dal,l wux sldlicirnl. 10 prutu It tn.nanl reLtliuns6ip 6rlwecn rif!nrnlle setukiqt and 6vurl div- t':ISn, tllr~,roap did puint uut IJud it. is ctitnblished IlLat Inldn ni{lnrrtlre smukers Itnve e hi{;ller tlrnl6 rnle fronl cnronnrv diwnu Ihan eon- snwkintg mnlrs. In view of Lnis furt, tltr- esprrls felt it. wuuld 6c more prlt(lentt ior ns to nFSUme t.lmt liln DRI;IhllSltn(1 1'/`Ii1t1n11F11111 IN1tWeP11 cignrnt(n ~nloking mtd curonnry disensn 6ns cntlsulivn lnennlng Ihlut tosncllendjudf±meu(.unlilnolulcnrl.aiul t'ntains. \4rn lulnw Illat nesrly 7/1 etilliun pr.olue iu lhc Itnilvd Slutts rnu- sumn IOhacco re~rulnlly an(I thnlIror vnpitn tonsnnyrtion Lus risee mlukedly iu trrent. 1'rnrs. 11 ia t.rue thatt in 1961, follovrinR ILn relruse af Lhn rrpurll on sulnkin},r nnd lleallll, cit'nrette Gnlrs Ilrrlinetl nnll tLnt. Sa.lrs fnt Ihn yenr wen+ a prrrcnl. Lelolv 16ow for 1011:1. Itt is slcu I rut, ILownvrr, Ihnt. ufltr Ilm. ALsrp drol/ in cnrly 1001, inlrs Le;~nul tn rirc :ttnin uud by I6e eud of Lhee year wert }ntck to I!I/pS lercls. ludnstlry spokcsnlvn n.re nlrnndy prndicliug nu evrn 6rltet' ye:v in Llli:r. Wro n1igLl. Arcll ask why Ille u,-adlod SulokiuR sr/n'e tlid not Ins.t uud wLy peol,le tcho trlnpurnrily Ntnppctl smekin}g ur steitclletl to C prs nntt cignrs a fler the trlcncn af the Adcisorv ('nnnuitlrr; s mporl, ter rrsmual ILt~ ri{pnrt.te 6abi1.. 'IIle :nlswel' to ILi4 is ILnI mnny ptwple rencrd to Inltr Ille rrPorl srrinntill' 1ckrn Ike ll'wkrnl I;uveru- mrnt failrtl to Inkr. nny fnrllur '1'hoir rrnsuuinw 'tvuls to he.,

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as Cn7AltLA11111.INQ ANn AIIYI3IYI'iRIN(I--1e115 nowin:(trd Ly 11141 tolLncrn industry :uld nll Ihlll. were inir.rr~lyd iu this snbje.a.. 1'llu men I11:11. wnre :Illoterd lo silon lhut rmnmil.lee, th010 tlmld sil, Illcrn, sld, tllrrc wilL f.lle vr.lo riRht, of every tnem6er of 1.116 tubaeco iudusry to shilce them if Ilmy Lnd any rmison to slrilce thmn, and their report, didn'6 1'uibble. it ttas unnmmous, sit. They provide a colnpelling Lncis for prnmpt and effrrtive ~rnvern- monlnl rrulldial nction. Secnnd, Ihe Conuntssion founcl Ilmt Clle nlethods hy wllieh cifinrlles hnve br(nl ;Inll nro Iming sold 6o Ihl, non- Slllnlllg plll)ll(1--hy Ille¢Ils of lnl/elillg, Inld ndveltlslllf /PIIIcl1 fnils i.o disclnse 1.110 ILcnllll lulzarlls of oil;:uvdio smokinq-nrn dr.wpl.ile and unFlir lo consnmcls -rspeci:tlly childlrn and Icennge.rs, mnonl; lvlom r.ignrr.l.le slnolcinf; is very widespread-vnder set.tled 1rf,.nl principles ~mvaninl; Irnt.h mld fnirnoss in advrrlisinq. '1'lle Connnis4inn, thelrfore, strongly believes Llnd, effcetivc rrulydinl 1110n5111eS AIlk Iespect ID ellrlCllt cig:urtte advertising nJ1(I lnl/rllllg nro uocpssnfy in I.IIe pnUlic ilderest, luld snpporls legislnl.ion collsislrnt with the nUjeetives of its rale. Tnsof:u ns IaLelinq is conra'ned, TI.If. 4&11 wonld rr<luiro tllr s/nie.- nlenl, "}V:rnim,r--(7oldrnls May lir I)nul;erons lo llealtll" on rneh pnckn,,{e of cihmrlles mld TCR. R014 wonld rrrplirn IILe stntwleut "('nl- Lion: (`ignrtdte 9lnokinoo, May lie Ifainrdous lu 1'onriTnnlill' nn r:lnh plu.Icl.f;e of r.igm-elll~c. It. is nur npinion Ill:li cilllcr of Ihrsc Iwo cnn- Lionnry wnrnmhs nn Ille labrl uf rip.:ucl.l.rs wonld Ilntn 1 crrlnin rr,nlydinl rll'rr.t, in warning eif;:netlr smnkrrs of Lhe dnnRrrs tchinll lwry resldt from cnlol.inf; eign.rrlleq, AYo. rvunld cu~~rsl,Lo,tncrr, Ihnt.ll6e .Stntenlmlt, ill II.I2. 3111~4 be rlulne;rd ILt.sld'atil.ulin;, Illu ltord "Is" for Illo words "pfay lio" hecanse it is nnr opinion Illnl1 ai~nr(~Ile snlnkin~ is a hrullh llnr.nnl. IT.1f.:'SO11 I/I'llvides (lnlt. its lllllrllll;,r rwlllirements nre 1o hr nnforeed solely Ly c,riminnl prnrerdinffs nnd ky injunntivo action insl.itoled by 1!ie ~ I tornry (ienernl, lvhile 1I.R, 9'? 14, providrs for its en furrc,mm~t by 1.lle 1:'r.drrnl'1'rndo Cnninlissinn eude.r Ihe rldes, rekldntions, nnd prn- er.rlluves provided fnr in tlroToderlll'I'rade Cuunnioiaioll Art. It isour opinion thnl. 1 f.1f.4944, wmlkl prnvidn tlle mole npproprinte melhnd of rnforcrmrnt.. I sny ilr,rt, 1Ur. (:6n.irm:m, brcnnsn I tllink Congress wns tvise in estnblialliug n regolntory agenc_V suc,ll as the Federnl'1'rade Comulission. 111 is n plinLle nlmnry- (7iremnslanees mld rennvlies thnt, appear necrssatry c,nn be cLnhed lly eircnmstnnces of tomorrow, wLerens i fynn pnes a ln v and yon sny "'I'Lis slml l Ue t6r. lnv" sAnd yon fw'n it over to Llle ml folcemr.-nt uf Ille resper.t.ive. TT.S. A1.tornnys (:en- nrnl, thre only way yon oan cllnnf!;e Ihnt, ire to cLnnge Ihe Inw. ll'i 1 h rocllccL fo m;(:ur.t.tn advnrt icin~r, thr. bills t.nkn ontiroly divorRnnt tlpnrnnnhns. 1T.Tt.. 4244 deseri6es when cilrnrrl.t:rs nre inisbrnnded. It fnliller provides Ilmt tlle- ~ snlr, ndrerliuing, or olrering for s10n in rnnnnenr uf nuy rlRUrrttrs wldrh ' " O. W 6) nre ndFht nNlyd "" 19 nnlnWtlll nad 511:111 be nn Illlfllir flraCtlCO, in rU111n1erCe. 1lndrr Ihc i4vlernl 74nde Colnalsslnn Art.. 1 cyoud Ihis, 1T.1i. 4544 does not, denl 1ritL cif,r:neltc ndvertising. '1'he (lomnlissian woldd inlrrprot lllis onlicsiou :IS nn preemption of its 0 N v W cxislin;, :ndlLority undnr exinl.in( ~slatlllrs I.n provrnl, if nrrrnsa.l;y Ihrou,~ll n rrlplirewrnl uf nllirm:llivr Ilisrlayan, nnGlir mllt (lr(rldicn ..;.. il,..,l.._it'.. 1: , . . (91:AIC1.rru: LAlnn:IdNll UVn AuvFR'rlhiNO---1o(15 1!) rr:d shda0lry nnlilorit,y Ihnt 16e 1'uwolission prmnull;aterl ihc II'nde rrl;ulnl,inn role. Jn Ihiv rolnlertion, 6uwcvcr, 1 mig11ll sdd that if the Conl;rrss y1LO111d mlopt Illr :qlprnar:h ns provldell m ll.lt. d244, the ConunisGinn wntlJd not., in ally rrent, rr(plire in ndverl.ising nny nlfirm- nlive diuilosurr, rchicll wmlld lie inconsislent in mly wny wlth l.ho slnlemeut 1tu(]lired on the c.igouclle pncla.R+,n. II.It. :S(114 providcs tllnt nnl6inR m il.-- rhnll 6o rnnntna+l tn Ilndt or fo ezPnml thc nnthnrlly of Lhe Me(leral Trnde 1'uuunlvNWa wllh rrspe(1 lu Ihr niswmilmliuu in rnmwrrce of nny fnlve or min ii.nJlu~ advrrlixrlnrnt uf rlKnnllr.u ° ' bot lvil:h the proviso Lhnt (he Cnmmiccion sLnll uot Lave aulllorilv in nny prlwerdlflgs Imdel nny slnl.eln whiclr it. adminislnrs-- In re(luirn tllr InolaNlon in any nArcr/ismmnt of nny atatelnent roncernlnR mly Oazard tn Lrnllh hlvolved In slneking ciCnrrltes where Ille ndrerlinrd cltinret.tee Lnvo brru Innknged lu eun4nrinify ,rllh IUr labrllan prmINiolw of 1Ln bill. 11. ul5o prollibits any Tedrr:tl n:,mncy frnm requiring any n11Jil.iunnl rrrldiuunry sIntrmrnl ou nup pn(kupr 1nLrlyd iu n(,nfornull tt'illl Ilu` Ilrnt'i~ionc nf Illa 6i11. As wee ultrrpnt. ILlt.:11114 on lilis pninl, illvmdd prnllil.ii Ille Urd- rrtl '1'ra(Ir. llunnuix~ion h'nm 6rint!in :ury prorrrdiu~ fo rrqnire Ihc inrluYion in nny ndvrrt.i:gu1rnL nf (I;;nrPlltfl ally stntewrnt roucrrning the d:ulgrr In 61vtl111 fronl smnkinp; tvLrre LIme otlvrrlisrd r.irnlrltvs Inlvl, breo I.dlrled in cnnfornlily tt'iI11 llleprnvisiona nf tllr bill. '1'lle rll'rrf. of Ihis waldd Fm to cinftl; nul cif;arrltrs nnd exrmpt. Lhem fronl mIC rwtnilrncul Illnl a.dcrrlivin;; umql disrlora. 1110 (Inurrr nllrndllnt Irn ihcir Iwe. '191ns, wlliln nn(Irr nnlllyd princillles Ille Conluli~sion ill (ord(r In urrrl drrrIdioP of ron-aun(r~ rnnl(1 lu 16e fnlurn rwlniro a ~r.llrr to ;Illirnmlircly di-rlosr. in ndt'rrtisieg Ihr. (,omdry of urlm of his inlpuliod prodarlsi Ille far1. Ih:d, llis Glbric drpir.lyd lo Irtirlflbin minlc is in fnrt mnile of :t vynl6rlir lilxr, nr lllo nllvnl.r ennsvlurnans of 160e nalmnl nul of llis IL nRr, dnvicr, or roslnetic, it could not requirn iu 16r nllvrrtisiu", nr nignrrllrs a slnleonnt of Ille rstnhlielLed d:u11!rr Inllrallh ncsucin.trd willl lllesmokinsrnf Lhenl. 'I'llis, nf rourse, is nI limii:d inn on tlle Cnlnluicsiods nld.6oril.y .YLirh Lhn ('unp;rrss luny, if it, tric6es, iulpctiw. tiVn :me f1Jly ntcnre. of Ihnt., Afr. (16n.u~lnnn. ~1 do fre,l, 1LOwecrr, Illnt, it is my dnty Ln points nut, tu Il(i.c rnunnilirn one af Ille fn,lors wllirll led Ihe ('olwuissinn to Ihr rnnclnsinn tll:d, eiRarelJe adcrrt.isenlo_t' shonld eoufain n(cn.rninR tilnlement.. (lurstn(ly nf the prnhlrm convincrd ns ILnt.f.6e prineipnl menns nf prulllotiu',! Ille s;cle of ei,cr,llrrllev is ndlrrlicin;*, nol, lahrling. :\rcnrdinr I" nm' inform:.lion the 10,111 expendil.lurs in 1t1B11 for aigu- relle ndre.rli,int; by Ille six lendiu", cigaretde ln:mafnedurtnm excended M311f1 mlllion. Of t6is, ocrr$12G nlillinn wns sprnt on Ielrrision ad- rrrli,;inr, inrladin;, Iwlh nvl.tvurlc nn~l spnt rumunv'cinls. 'I'Lis roprr- wulell n. sulnlrn.ulinl fucIVntir ar(r 1902, nnd fln inrrrn~ us-rr 11)qo nNluv(litnrrs for I(lrvi~iun nderrlisiu!, of over oGtl prrrrnl.. We revienv(d :lnd sindied n lot of Illis television nlll'e.rli~in,N% in our rldrmnlciog prnroedint,r nald fnmld it tn pultrny I:IIO snlnkint; ot' virr tnn.lly every sil;nilicnnt Lrn.nd of c.ignrel.te ns pleasant, deslr;ddr, n µ/N11:1.I IIFWI, 1'lllnlnlt.ll., 11111I nVti1MInIPII lt'iltl unlnllnrs+ nnd pnllul:n-i1)'. I'nrlrnpnl of Ilm dn.,imhilily uf smokinR wels nlsu n(rnmplisllyd h,v Ihe :c:sorinli~~n af ~nN(/:in. tcilL i(Iras :unl indiridm(L; trnrtllr (~f

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1(If Cn:AItP:'rTPI LAIII:I,IN17 GNb AUA'GJt1'IFINll--1Jlif. Afr. Chn.irnnuy 1 anl plculscd Iu knmv I.Imt Ihu impnuf. nf ci;uretle :I,Ilvnrt.i>iug on young peolilr wns a parl.icnl:u.ly iwpmia.nt r,nuvidcl:~t- l.iou iu tLo 1~'1'C pront,edlnq. '1'6iv is tLe area uf my wu.iu roureru iu this prohlew for I beliece tLnt. I1Le youl.h of our Nation Innsl6c prod.eulyd from I6o adverl,inint,r Itu.hnillnes of Iob:trro rowprtnirs, es- ptw.inlly in I.ho wmliom of teloviaion. . Lot, me nssure you, 11ir. Cllnittunn, I1n11. 1 will br dniul; all Illnt1 c:ul hore in LIm (~ongre..~.s ta sttvul;lhen tho mil.hnril.v of 010 Ii in I6is field. Air. I)lxoN. Tlm.nl:you)sir. 'I'lln CIIAl116rAN. IIII. PII'.kle. Mr. I'Imn,t:. 11ft. (;Irtirmnn, I Llliulc 16e legnl poinle Lmve brrn prelt.)' well osplored by In.tvyers. I u:l.nt. In alslc yuu ono or L~t~o ques- I.lone ol` x goueral nnturc, otu, wil.h trspeult lo lnlleling. You slufn you InY~fcr Ihstthn «'nrdinl; trnuLl s:cy "AVarnin;{, aonlent is dn.u;;crons lu hlvtllll" I f ILe eleknge, s:tid- 111r. 1)LCUN- " I s huznrdous' I t'llinlc was oor snghotitiun. \Ir. Ihclcl.r;. I lurartlous? rlr. lllsoN. Yel;, haznrdnus. Afir. I'unu.v. Now, if Iho pmk,il.r. milli aI pruper size I.)'Pr, tsns la- belvd "1Pa.rninl;, rontt,nls may be llan},+arous lo hrall.h," nnd Lhen by :IVlvriek llmrn bcluo il. tt'anld tiay "urcorlling to t.he Surgeon General'w ruMarl, is dnugerous" nt swur such %cnliug, bernnse L1Lrro is at dill'er. enrr ol' opinion, l,repondmancn :Ipp:lrenlly says 16err is n. h:tznrdouN :Islitr.lt tu sulokinl; eiha.nales, und yrlf teo hn.vn golt clear :l.nl-6orily 1.6n1 ulys il, is not. Now, if ILnre is nr qu:lliliention oil aI pnr.lacge that ~er6aps would say, °'tV:n-ninl;, is a h:lr:ud to Lc:,llll," nnd Ihru do~rn ~>elnw ilt wonld say '9lerorlling In tlin Surgeon (iener:IPs reporlt of 1!)('rt," wnuld I.hnl. slnl. yua? Alr. IhxoN. I t6ildc ne nrn plnyiug nn wnrds. 11emdd say if you urn I:Ilkint,r :lhou6 tL'w;;er, way Lc ll:ul;qernus, if mee nrr lulkiuy nLunl 6ur.nrdous, I think it is 6n.r.ardons. ]l{r. 1'wxcr;. I ne:ul lo usr I.IIr wonl "9wzn,rdous." lVlml-. yon a'nnl is n fnir ~rordiug--- Atr. l)IZON. 'Chut isrigllt)sir. Nr.1'IClrlae. Afn.irev:u-nnf . Air. 1)IxoN. Wr. Iried nn I~e spenllir wm'ilin)g hl Ihr, legislnlion In give you 16r. Ltst-of nnr udvicr ou il, ruld I hnl. is mlr sukkestioll. T1r. CAntnn. Would I~lle sponlcer yield fnr one qnagl.imt? Mr. 1'lonl,r:. I yinld. Mr. CArrrat. Al.nnlly Lhis rnferN to A6~. Van f)eetlin's st.ntemrodnboul. loo,(NIO deallls. I have Ilere Ihe vil.tl st.alisl.irs for 1962 mhir6 show hw(! rnncer rtulviu;; 18,1)1111 lle:d6s, IhalI i.v Ilrituarl' lung ca.nrrr. It srrlns Ilul6 Iltel're is a leudrnr.y lu I,xal;p,rrale flleI umnLrr of de:llh, whir.h nrr url ually t.uused by hm_ trranter. 111r.lhxnN. Anlually iu Il6is hl~,r r/,lmlI/llero were 41,11110:)ltriLnled loil,bnllllelil,rurrs- -- Afr. (lAl:ru:n, I ng,ree. Wi111 1.he nI nlrment of 41,000. I lolcevrt, of Ilnll 41,IIflq, S$Ilofl tuny he ulelnsLJ ic,oudil inns. nlr. 1 h xoV. 1 mldervln ud. Nlit ('xIrro:u. Frow oanrrr of Illr idlur pnrlx uf Ille. boilv whirh mr. I:Irlasizeil lo Ihe, lung. 'Ihr Inu~r rrrcicrJ I hrr;r mrln~.ln~:~~ frow oIluLr t9fiAltDYI"rn LAInnAN11 .4Nn APA'PJt'I'ISIN11 -19nL 1(I5 luuisufllirLnnly. 1'hevilnlsLlIislirn,l/lunllyv6om only 1N,1NIndenlhq rcrorJrJ ns primnry. '1'hunk ynu, sir. Dlr.l'Ir.lu.r. \\'nnld )'unyitIdbnr.klome? 11n(',mrrlac. 11'irldll:lrk,sir. 'I'6:ud:Nnu. Nlr. Ihr.rcla:. Alr. C6nirmnu, :ISSiniuu;; ILuI. Vce. volue Itp, (lle ('nn- ~llS,nuulrti up tcilIl nl nilolpnllo tc:nviuR-Ind Illnlt is nll )'onr f'oul- wi1sinu reully is nslcinr I'or. nnd I6o/. i,oar Jecision --- Mr. Ih~uN. 'I'hnl isr.urrrl.I. Alr. 1'n./cl.r,. \Cn ,,:nl Lir;;rly nelllr Ihic maller, ILix proldrm, by u gnnd In'oprr I,lhrlim,. Notr, Ilu rrn) problem 111:,1 comev i. in Ihr nrld uf a~lcert iwInonl. N1r. IhznN. 'I'Lis isrorrcrl. Dlr. I'Inla,r:. Nua, Pnn iu.,isl. Illal /l.lnugh it d,N`s not sluvili,nlly ~ivn ynu tlu nuthurity, Ihr permissinn lo s:ly -111e slnle.nnIJ.16al.Ihrrr. I, :1 olishr:uullup' 01' a luis=lalennul abnnt. /ln 1,rn/luot gicv' ~~on 16e nulliuril c I,~ rr;;ulnlr adcrrll=ing t6e.:Jpnf ri_nllrl lr~. Nr. liuu:. I hucr nu /loubl Ihaf t,i h;lie Illr nnlhnrilc un :Idtrr. li,in)!. Nlr. 1'n'ul,r:. NoNc, w, v Iplrslinn is 1.6iv. \'au soi4 in the Ilrra dny of lesl.inlony liere Llmt.1'nn fell Ih:tt 16r adcerli~inh induslry. rip;:urlle. lo6u.rco ma.nnfuc.lurers, yom~ (:omwi:;.ion, tltr :ultert.iuinfi uieJiss in Illeir inreuuill rondd gel.lnt,nIhtr alnd trork illie problem out, bld you tcould nol snt' if ilwns n. 7p)-sicnnd ll:tsll nn the s`.remt shel.6er they vmdll Ilnte. lu hnve. Ihis bil; InLrlinl, pnll np therr you tcnnl/l not. say tc6o.t size uf lype, if iltcav nn nll 3 by I11 or 4 by 12, hrnulle yuo mere Ice.pt nut, of IAlnt anle.gory becnnse il, in sn hard to sny rs:crl.ly w6u1. iy going to bc, rcquircul. 1"oe will :ldmil: (ha.f.. Alr. I)hMoN. '1hnt "t lmre:)>:un I su;nMrv;led Irv"'e il. Alr. 1'u't.l.u. Note nly quoslion is il' ice have proper I:Iheling, if wc hnce I;ond rdron;; prolrrr lnhrliu=[ ahirh ritr. n prollrr Ic:u'ninr In Ihr Ilrnldr eunrernell, thru il. tcmdd srew lo nle Illxl arr.umpli~hrti your pnrlwse.l.er,nust ylnl n.rr unl. trying lo se:vr',eolde, nre yon? l~nu Ilro nol. Lt;yinR la rnn I.ho IuLnrcn people ulll ot Lnstno.s.., tt.re 1'un? l,on arr not tryin;,~ lu rnn I.he :Idvrrl.lsinl,g luldin. All you :uev m:llly dniu,c in I.IIr. ('olnluisiou is II.1'inl; lo sny I.hrre nuhht to br, llrolnr %I':u'nint; on a paelcnl;e of nikuret.les. Afr.DisoN. \Vr.:nellyiu{;loslnl,tlar.llliun,sir. Htr. 1'nrnn,u:. If we nl;rro lo t.6nt, tcLy do ynu not slitp nt t.lmA~. point untl say to the ndvertising indnslty and to Illa nuuntfnoJnrols, tlln growers tlnd all poa'ilr concerned wilh this prolluc/, give IlLem a nllnncn to work nut. Lllis problem iu t~lteir wny without yuu Innlciuf; n rldn tIl¢t is going to bo u~luosl, impossiLlr to live l~y. 1 f tre ean uoum up .vit6 Lhcproluv wordint il. srems In mr Ilka, o'r ::ught.losIopul ILnt ',nint.nndl!ivet6e.mnrlmnrelnwork il.uul. Now, ~chxL it tvrnn~ wil,ll llm.t? Mr. lllxoN. AVe just. Simply do not, ng?reu witll you, sir. We Urie,l lo peint onf. Ie you tluttt ndvmiising is IheI ver~y lifebkrod nf =n.les of ~.i),rarel.l.os, n.nd Ihnt, il, is qnite inItorlnnl, anti m order to Irlnove llle dree.pl.ion hnm ILe Amm~ira.n pnlllic tlnd. ilt should be ronsillerell nll this momeut at leuwt., bee.n.use. Ihere lulre not. been mty ol Ilrr ehanes lo sprnk nf on Lhis hninl, nnne sa{;;Cesled ntlier Ihan ILee hillH Illut :ur 6a.re Lrfnre. 1114, . (1rn11<rr:i~. 'I'llus it ou;Chl. I n Ime rnnsiJerrd crry ilr,Idy

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I(I/i rIU.tni~rrrl: I.Altn:l,IN,: ANU An1Elrrlsttar, -lona I,nfon, cnrt furerLtve nue lray ur :nro/hrr, Lnl il is vom derisirnl. lYr lcilla6illehylllndcrir<iunnflhr('onarrs ~ IIr. I'min,n. I 111111 arr . yuu Wuukl. Ilut. 16erea is nmch moro In Ihis Ihnn jnsl nn mlrerli::rmeul, hernic:r I'ou know ynu luoo denlin;; tl-ilh :;nu,MLing Ihnll ia nit. is a:;urinl hnbil. 1"otl lumtv .1'on al'e nnl hoiug I.n ruu rignnIln smokinpt nudw;!rnm,A. Vou lulnw Ilull. All yuu ruu du iS;,rive n u'oper tv:uuin,~. I Ihiuk you ual;hll lo do Iu1L uml Illrn slull lhere nnrl srr if Ihe iudutill;v t.alnlul1 wnrk Ihiti prnb- Irm nnl Ilrenl5chvrti. 'I'Imnlc )~on, A1 r. ('~lulirwnn. I trill vie.kl. 'I'kn(:uern~u.1N. Alr. Allnldry. . AIr.Alunrln'. Nnlplrst.inns. 'I'he ( hl:unnl,tN. 11h. Nnl l/yrtiold. A1 r. S,rrruluupn.u. I Irn vr somc Ipu:til inn5, sir. One Illinlr IkrlI. T mm 11 . lil.Ile rourerueil ahuld, A1r. Clhnirmnn, is ILk As T uuJra/und ynur Ird.imuny uurl )'onr renurrlcs hcroe in (hc pn'1 couple of dny., yon 1'eel nnrl yonr ('nnuuitqiun nflpnrenlly frcls Ihnl ther»:U'n Iteu nrene In v'6irI1 you lce n rrclrou:;lhililv. f)nr- iv ero- nolnic in lernls uf fico trntln,.nud Ille nf.llrr nllplu'enlly, Ilrnu tclml you L:no c;i id, is wit.h reNliccl, lo I,rnl~~t.f ine~ Illc lle:tlth nnd lvalfare of LIm peollle. nra inat hllz;lrrls, is I Imt. rnrrrr.t.? Afr I)IxoN. A1'e nre ln-rn1edina l,err, n;,r:tinstt deceplion, sir, nnd de- ception rnn occmr nn Ilin laLel as woll ns iu Ike ndvet'Li,ing, und we knutv Ihal omr jnri<die.liun-~nr lce. 6ave, t.he slrnul,g helief thn.tt nnr Iluisliclion rl>rs to tlle lnbnl as lenll os to tho ndvertisinu. Afr.,SXrrl<nrrr;l,n. Rat Ihe rinderlyiqk I'PIIROn fur t6is decision uever- Ihe.Iess pe.rtnins to proteoJ.in); the 6en.llh nnd xvelfnro or Ihe pnoldr, Ilnes ilH nntZ Alr. 111snN. 'I'lle, nndellying rol,ort of fhe .41ngoolt (lnnernl'.4 rnin- olil/oolLUd lodo with ]lenllll nud snfel,y,sir. A/r. Snrrlau~~luan. I nndcrnlnod tno frow a sla.leulontd yom marle Ihe ut.Ler rl:y I hnt 1 he rensnn you s;ttv lil-lo nrl, in tllis nreu. xvns 16nt a bhlo- rih6ntt hnncl of exl,rrts 6nd colne nlr wit.L n. decisian nnd n1 rer.,nn rnendnlinn. ]1fr. DIxnN. This is t11e principnl bnsis, sir, yes, sir. Afr. ti:vrrltl;rn:l.n. Ilo vnu frrl -:rplwrenlll' yun did in Ihis ra,e - thnt the resl,uusibilily tn the publieI in tnrms of health onl.tveigk I,IIr respunsiLilililw 16:11 yun tni;g6t Ir.uev llnd in Icrlns of rel,Idntint; fair trnrie. Afr. 1)Ixux. The eronrnnicg in mv opiuion dnes nnt ovelride-Ihe rrvrv nponsihilit.y of reronvin~* decepl,iouheren ln fnc.t, I wonld lie h:ud Inlt lo ever try tn roret thnt, frst. It, is a pnrt of fttirnr¢s Ln Llle rnnsnmtng public. Tfi. Rslmr.r.r'leln. I ntlde.rsinnd frotn yonrstn.tnnlunt 1.Lnls nne of the cltief nLjerlions Illnt. ILn C;onuniscinn ILns is Ille f:m,fh Illnlt ndvnrtisrng xvonld I+md to I,rnmote Ihe snle nf rignre.lte.s in the fld;nrea and porlmpi; rrc:t(e nrldilinnnl cuslonwrs in lerms af Ihve ynuth today ns they grosv oldcc Aft. hlsoN. I Illinlc I L:It is enrmrI, sir. I tLildc tkn past. histnry thnf. Are Anrlierl illnslrnlecl i(. I:nu a holievpr in nclvertisin r. i think Ikis is ILe Ihint, ILnIl mnkes prnrlnrl:: morev in Anleriem in n.l:rrf,.o cray. Alr. `;n'rrr:rnrrlcl.u. Neve.rlhele5s, it seernv to Inn hom your slalewenl Ihlrl tchnl vnnnreu:iyin!rir;t6nl inllri~_indnnrrnrl,i,rlF=nrd ..norl 1'n1.1H1:'I"I'K LAnL:IdN17 AP:P Ant'b:n'1'InINt7 -11065 1(1] :,url IIrnl ilnllnnld Ire ~lamlr.d unl n.l Ir:,sl. Iu 16e eclwdtlml. Ilrnl,ln unrdd Lre enr-nln'ngrd In nwuke Llrruu;nh advrrlisin;.. illr. lhxuN. No, sir; I nm Il.yinR lo say Ihal. Lrnl,hful :ulverLisiuR is r~uMl; Jecelll.ire ndvarl.isinf± I hu.vu :11 qur_tit.ion wlu9c ou lwtcnn'o (lnn- giv:v4 rplevl lumd it, nut, lun. ^ Aflt ~mrruaa: r raa.. I Rr d.l lrn iwpra::~inn h~oul une t.Lin); ynu r:n id t,il ker mtnrdny or I6e day befnrn tint. n.uy tiwe n p,+l'olql of oxpeliy lnnde it drrision tiur6 as 1.6is, yon fellu bnnnd to iollnlv itr if Iltrre alv/ wns a. rrromnrrnlLIlion t.llnt, snnro rrwedinl ar.Linn shutdtl be lakrn. Alr. 1)I.nN Nu, sil; 1 Ikl nul.lhildc I saiJ IJlnt. I say thi9. 'Plntl. eken thr n6ief inedical ollicer of tlle (lniled tilnlns uudlvr ILe eundi- limts tvlricL 1LU eonvened this cnmmitlae, undm Ille )nolllollnlo;±y f.hnt, ho follo,ved, uudnr ILe mnlhoJolafw t.6n.1. 11te enlnnritleo followed, lvliml (hr.y eolue n'+i xvil h It mpnttJsl him and Lhen lie nccopta Ille re,iort, rnld in nm amise nmlerNrltPF lt, IIC al'c11111 s Ihe 11IIIs1o11A Ils 1~ tlln Imsic rouclnsion, I Ihink is tllo hi~,hesl. type of aW.llorily yon cn.n lurn lu in A urorio:l.. Atr. tinrrn¢rlvl.n. 1)n you Grl Llml. ILn Cunlmiv.vinn Ilns nny ril!Idt lo exr,minn Ikrsa reporls or do yun feel ils is bnnnd to n.o:epl. Ihem ns f:rI.? \h'. 1hsoN. 'Phey e.x:uuine ( te rrporl, for melLodnlogy nnd Lhe cmn- prdtrneyol'illexvitne~~ec,tkefnirnessoft.6orepnrtnndever.ylFriu.~,. rs:uninn Un,t as l,cll ns nntny ntLcr rullnrls. Noxv, xve wnde It very pl:r.iu in nnr sln/emm~t nf bn9is nnd pnrpose tlutt this mns Llm prineipnl lvporl, Lul. lce exn.mined uln.ny ot.hrl's. 1Po frequenlly utnst rnly tt'lrnl e.xpr.i't opinion nl orrler 1n decirlr tu:my I.rouhlrcnlne qnr5l.inns t1u16 romn Lelot'e ns. If tce dirl not rlr. Ihiv nl Amrriru, I dn rlni knu,c Lnw ynn wunkl drrirln u,:ruc I,rn6lewv. Alr. SnIrl.an~na.u. 1`nlt Ilnne :t lnt of ndverl.ising goin!.; , on in I.Ilis ronul.ry tnJn.v. 'I'here tvas snme a.lLleiuu to nlvert.lsin~ a frlc yrnrs n,n. I I.Ilialc nll of it. hns imprnvrd, u.nrl I believe ynn ailll ngreo 6111 Ino. ATr 1llxoN. Ycs, sir. \lr. fin'rrrm=lra,u. 'I'lnrr ure divon~nnl.nrlvrrlisnmrnls In,luy nn Irlo- yi,irmanrlrmliucvitLrespeel.lonpl,r:rlingprndnrls- lel.oun:nurune liCef, for exlUnple, lcllel'e If. is hiPl.llre(1 II"dll(1,' e.nnled III riphlill[[ broolcq nilll Ihe fnmil,y nnt on It pirnlo La.tin~ a good time. 5hurdll sume ez- pnrt rnmtnilA oo clecide, thnt, bnar is not good for peoplq would itt be in nrder, do you think, that you develop .~,e type of mfinlnl.ion with rrspect to lLis plroduet. ns yon have .vdlt oil;nret.lesY Dr. 1)txoN. If we hnd t:jle pmblem, I thtnlc we would 6a folavl Io rnll5itler ill, sir. A1r. RAI'ru;ln+nV/.u. '1'Iro question of tvilellter y011 xcuakld c'nllsidrr ilt or nnlI u~oubl ~Iepr.nd or NchellL,r nr nnt, somr. rununii./el nf expr~rtc rnme up wilh :t ronelusinn. Afr. l)ixnrr. i Illinlc so, sir. I ILinlc it. ctnuld go beyrnld Lkn/.. II. x'unid lre llLe nalure of Illo ecluuuiltce. 1Vas it. just, a Invblelu kere, 16ere, or nnol.her plnre, and ILe eztrul, of Illn dmlger. 'I'his is ILatdclirn.ln Illinf{ I:hnl. xcm muct tveigld, Ils Oonnress snid; on umsl, tveight 'vLal. is in t.6n publion interest. We, 1110 Cnmmissinners, tnnsl, dec.ldea whnt in Illc puhlin interasl. in the brginnin{±shnnld ho Iho nt'linn ini- tinleiI by nsnmlerunr sln.l.ulnry nulhrity. A!~~ G,rrr:rro'rr,.n- 1., frrr rulrrl'rif:r in ihe l,nblirc inlrm-12

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1f1$ Cianw:1^rr; L.1l1b:IdNa ANn nnvL:H'rIPINa.._-19ne A1r. 1)Ixon. It. +tum it, .ir. Afr. tinrroanucr,n.'I'hou you uwsl. huvr, decided hotti dealing with ono iuJaslry .rhrller or nol Illn puLlir. interest, in torws of ILatlbh luv:u'd Ir:uSed on this ruporL outtloighs Lho puLlic mtorost of frco l:rndr in tobacco plnduets. Afr. 1)IxoN. Yoo nrc assnming LLaI, whalh tco Iw'e tloing by rrquiriuR, we migld, say, Lho alimin:d.ion ,~1' drer.ld.inn, Lhat bhis is 9uinh In nlilnl- nlltq frco enl,mpriso. 1 do noL ngrrr. wdh you, sir. Dir. Sn'rrrutxvnu. lti Lhis dreivwu noL inl)erent.? Ah'. 1)IxoN. 1Vhnt, is tha.(., sir? Air. Snrremrnel.n. Is Lhali~ unl. Ihn decisimL I.hatt is inhiq'nnll i1t this instancn'I Afr. ]hxox. I do nol, kno.v nsilh is , sil. 7gonss Lhal 1 nln nun of [hr hulievul':s Ihatt doceptiou luu'Is frru culerpt'ise. Rn,nlovnl of dnrnhl,ion hnlps frnu nntr,lpl'ise- Afr. 4vrruan~na,u. I agrrr wil!i rou l(g) hrrrrnl tvhru ynn mrnlnllcinr nLuulI'air Ir:ulr, luaclivti; ns nlu lu I'nrr.l nl' :tu indnisll,x nptniuslA uuulller. LI rayun, I'or rc:uuplo, I6rro ,cn4 n.lluust.ion of oue prollnct th:n, lunltrd lilm silk being in tnlfnir rumpr.t.il.lou with sillc ilself. Ilrrn t'I,n urc rrt,nlaliu{; a~ain~l :In rnl ir, iudnsll.y, uwl I Ihildc Illisqursl.ion llas nol. hra'n ansttr.rrd Ynt., is ill uultrun I.hat. I hiti is thn only Iimo ot thu linf. Limo sue.ll a rehulnl.ion hns brrn i5suod ng:tinst ao rnl.ire indusl.l;y IcLurrw i/.:eas nodt iu eon/prt.ilinn n'ilh n.nolllm'9inliln.r to It.f 1(ir, 1)rxnrv. In view of this rnportt sir, I Illinlc the lonst 6hat, the t'Ihrurrlln indnslay could expoc.t. wuuld lie I.his warning. I Lhinlc Llmt. k Ilin lasl. they roldd oxlmc.t. Atr. ti.trrwltrl.:L.n. I 6uvro nu nt.hrr tplrsl iuuv. '1'Lul'nnrltarnN. Alr. Iiltrnslry, vnn ltn,l oue, Aft. FutNataav. ./nsl. ran.l qniclc. 'I'hn (lunnlnlAN. Afr. tiillipqtn, hrforn ynn Irave, did you hnvn ;nlr q i ira.i uns ! AG.QnatanN. No,sir. 'I'hn (1nnlunlnN. I nnl II;VioR lo tind nn( It'hrlhtv' lo Lriug Afi'. llixun Lncl:. Alr. 1en11Nflwv. 11.5. Nvers R. U'urld Rrl/orli snys Ih:tl. I,hrrro is prrs- snrn ulomil.int± for ronlrol oil 1-irrnmlcrrs. I tuu s'rry tcurrioil nboul :10l omollilo snfrty. Afi:l)Ixorr. Ye.v,sir. Afr.T,vtnnl,u:r, Arnyouull.cml<int;ontlntt9 A1r. I)Ixux. lVe hnve hnd lLrorinp on tlro ronrhel.inq of tirns. 1Pn havn Ilrllyd solurllling Ithoull tho dofir,inneios thurn, tuo, sir. A[r. FAttNxl.xr. Thnnk you. 'I'hn Cnnuexrnx. 1Ffr, Dison, 1lnlnle ,you very mnnh for ymu' pnt.innro nml tcilliu1nrss to rrwpoud lu tlnrsl.luns Idlal. ilat-r Imen In'uponndrd to 1'ou by iurmhrrs of I.hn renunnllrr. We npprrcifdr ynnl hoiul; here :and mnl.ribuliu;. to Ihrse hrnrinrv nuJ romplinlr.nt you unrl yom sttrlf wnl IlLOnlc you fnr ,vrnn' hnll,fldnrs~ lo t.hr ronmtilirn in Innlcing this rncord. ALt l)IZon. Afr ('hnirwa.u, mnv I Ilr:udc 1'on for yollr Illdinncr e'i1L mr. 'Phis is s Irdioo., proLlv.m, nu,l I tlcrply nllprrcinlr lllr, wny 1 hnl(Lrrn Iluudlyd. '1'hnnL Auu.sir. l'IUAnI:'I"I'Pl LAIIP:IdN/; \N11 nlll'I118rIVIN17 1965 Illl) 'I'hn ('unrntMntv. 11'e ,ll,pl'ecintc )nnr:"lnying %cil l, mc \\'n had wd snl.ir.il,n.lyd In I:Ilcu Inarllr:llly :111 Ihis Acrrl( )cilll yon. I Lavv. Irir,l tn hr as Irnirn6 us I ruuhl lalotriug 6olr srnsitivn uud impurIlLnl Ihis , ursIinn is. .1 morrly tuny counnrnln ul, i.his Limre thult if uot.6iny~ is ,~onn Irgisl:llively on I his lnohlrm, I rn'trvL6 its I slalyd Iosl. yrar, yo1L ,cill Il:l,vn I hn danhodrsl. latcsnilyon hnll in n lonh (imr. II is going lo lal;na.lnur, Iiwr lo ~tdtln il. Alr. I)Ix,". I nt.rru Ililll tlml.::ir,:uul I fnll,q nppnri:do., Ihlrrfnrr. Ihn Irilliul.,urss of Ihr Couo'rnss lo IlHrlc nl Ihis LrrnnSC I Ihinlt Lllrrr i: It rell lntddrnl 6rrr) uml Ily Ihe ('+nikrres Ial:inp; :uLion, rrrluinl~y lin,u will 1uu t:n, Irr;l:~lnlr n.~lul uf liulr ald nf Ihis luuldonl. '1'ho l'utncsraN. \s I iudil'atlyd II1. Lhr. lasl('uu;qrcxs, I tllinlt il is nf ~rra.l. imporl:nlrn In f,coid pn~llwnin;! IhiS fur a,4, ur 1ms5iLly F}'rm's. ~I Lnllncn ii.lrohnuars ynu, Alr. CLairwan, and yom l'+Inunission and Ihis rnnnuittre mnl Ihu e.ouulcrpnrl rommllIcc in 16n Srnnlr tnd indcrll Ihn /'"u;Trecc tn Id.l' lo ,cnrlc aldl solun solnl.inu lu /.6iv Ilrohlrm, ond I n.ln goin;, lo incili, yonr a.4.vlnnr.r :r.nl conlicrlli.,n n, Ico 11_y In,ln Ilml.. \lr.lhsuN . \1'r~aillrrrlaiult't:ivnlu}'onulu'brnl,~il. '1'Ite CIL1 I It NLA N.'PIIII IIIC yllll PI'1y lll lll'h. 'I'hnnowwitlre tcill udjomv uulil ltl o'c,lolIc io Ihr wurnimg, nl tchirll lintn we Mill hnco 11r. f.ul.hcr'1'crry of tho 1'nblic IlraLilh Nre.i,v. (\VLnronpon, at. 11 :1 5 I.hn cnnunil~trAt recesr:rd, (o reroutmnr nl. 10 n.ui.,11 riday, April 9,190K.)

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91) (:ICABRTI'IS LAItPJ.INH ANI) Altl'I;nTISIN(i-10fi5 STATEMENT OF PAUL RAND DIXON, CHAIRMAN, FEDERAL TRADg COMMISSION; ACCOMPANIED BY T. V. BUFFIN(iTON, ADMINIS~ TRATIVE ASSISTANT TO THI: CHAIRMAN; dOHN WHEELOCE. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR; CIIARLES SWEENEY, CHIEF, DIVISION OF FOOD AND DRUG A11VER'1'ISINq, BUREAU OF DECEPTIVE PRACTICES; AND FRED DOWNS, ATTORNEY, BUREAU OF DECEP- TIVE PRACTICES, FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION-Resumed Mr. 1)tcl,ta. 'I'hntf is ('orl'rrl, sir, sintrs if. Nrns nmoudo,l in ItI:1H, llli.. is I.rut'.. Alr.lkaas;ns of Florida. I)ucs iti s;-o I(t In.bclinfii 11tr. f)IxoN. lt tvotdd iurlalr lnbclina, , sir. 'I'Lo rrpresrnl,dinu ron lLO tnn.do uu 1114, lltls.I rln ur11 nn ill ud ccrl.isi ul.;. AI r. BuurncN of Floridat. 11' hatnbout section 12? Alr. Ihsox. Srct.inu 12 Jcals sp(c.ilica.lly with foods, drugs, rlnvirr., :wd cunlnul.ics. 7'Itis ttas a sper.inl onactrneut of t.he WllroIer-Len-- .vhnn ILu Whcclrr-Intt Ar.lt wns pavsod, ilt nnt, nnly uddetl wcl.inu,v 1'' I hromlt l Yi In Ille bnsic Frlk'rnl'1'rnlle ( Innnuissiun A rl, bnf, ilt alw'n4rd scr,l iou :i wd a.dded I:Lr tvords "nnfair or dreel(hivc ncls nu(1 pracl i:rs." :AIr. Ctauens nf 1'loridn.. Nntc, tclr.lt anl.llnrtl,y du.lon fe+I }'un )n', say orcr IulvcltisinR or 1nLe.ling ot' prescriptinn drugs? Afr. UtxnN. Siucc. 11)tP2, air, tcc lun'n it very Iiwilc+I nnd if mq'Ihin. It very (cnuuux nnd :1a acl;y n nrro)c , :tu d 1 w nldtl rad.her sn y Irte katr little or no rvsp AIr. IIIM:INiR unsi6ilil.y in (If Fl:rcidn. this li Why eld, is since ILis Ilm 19fi2 act. ~,lun .erliun 12 curun l I rllgs_..--- Afr. 1)uuN. llcr:nlur ill I!If:? 1 111 ('onT, rvtis ea:r,- scd il_tirlf luul dirwled ilsclf slmrilicnlly lu Itrcvrrilttiou (hvg's. A'fi. llunl:¢s ul' Nluridn. I sh:lrte yuur frclinf; Lhat, Ihn.t tv6ru Ih. ('ouRres; uctrd on druga, ILi, iu nll'ccl said tcc ~~;lut+til Ihi;: hnudlyd Ly Iloull6, I';thlcnl.iuu, uud 1Vrlfarc, 6y Nnod nnd 1)rul,r. Nutc tn ha.vn pnstir.d nn nclt siocn vnur nct. tcns pns'rd on lnbtlinf; in t6r Frdul'ul Ilnr.n.rduus tiubaln.urc LnLclinR Aet.. Thn tiurt;rorn Crurrul st;drd Illnls IIe frll, nflcr I,Ito nludy wnw nlndc, Ihof. bhis problrm slluuld Ita lntndlc(f ns a Inbnlinf; pruItlcm Imdor this tlct.. Yt1( brfurr Ilto 1)eparlwt.ut. lt:td oown iu lu mnke rnoemmwudnl.inns, yumr ('oml- tnissiun hnd Lnkca nn nr.linn asserlinlg jurisdiel.inn eccu 1.6nu1!6 Lun 6usn vnnr ai-tinu oil t.ho sludy mndc Ly Ihe SnrRrnn (It-uornl. Alr. 1hxnN. 'l'hem was a.rrold. tlenl of noutroversy ns lo whrl6rr the Ilnz:udnus Nubsl.wcrs Ait rovtyrd it or uul., su I nlu iufnrmal. lmt 16ct'o trns no douhtt in ;uly cannnissionot's roiud Lhn.l. IIIO P'crlrrnl '1'rndn Oonnuissiun tAcJ. did npltly -nnd itt is nnt nnusnnl as y:ni know. ill 16o vnrions stahldcs Ihal. t'no);rrss Las passeJ lo hav(, snmcc dt1!rn of uverlnp hottvrcn fnnclious. Iu IntI, in 1938 Irlltn Iha11'hrelrr-Ira nlucnllntc.nlo':Is I>nin;q debnlod, ilt m;IS dcLatad quilee cxlrnsiculy as I" trlwllLCr or nol.lho CnuRrnss )tas;,,uinpq Io Inkc this fund, rlruRs, drvirr. nnd co.mrlic st.nl.nl" nnd eo~l. ilt ill unc n/,cnuy' csclnsicrly. :lftri r'Nlvu(lrll dcbafn and slutlp, Lllr ('onnrrss sepnrutrll il,. :1s ynu kmw Ilny prcllc Wrll lefl. Inhrlinr :Ind [rren(ling to Irurnl unll 1)rutg nnd lel't ndvr.rl.isinl; lu Ilt(- FrJernl'lladr l'nnmlission. Nntc ilt is good logic hrrr, I,rcnnse. tvht.n )'uu go in6o Ihr nrlrrrticir;. licld, tnu :nr, ill /hrw litld ,d c~nuu,i,~~ mnrc Il,:nl von :Irt, iu hc:,lt6 CIQAII I:'NP61 I.AnIlldNU AN1/ AIIVP:n'1'l91NC-11/65 1) I nutl "nfcll'. 'Ilradil-ionnlly' 1 ILiuk 1'nmresv 6us luulccll nl. 6rnll.ll nnd snfcty us u Icind ul' rt pulicn pol). tr. ''hv,y' Ilxvo Inukcd in Ilic lit~ld uf rruuuluiac as tnln nl' sn.lc, iudnrruteut., nnd I.he;v hnve leflt this one ill LILC. nluru pliuLln slng:" of ndmiuinlrnlivc1 law ntl6rr Ilmn ILre nxvrntiru LruncL. Altr. Knataw uf Flurida. 1)u vnu ir.ol Iltnt. yunr o.ldlloril}' untlrr urt.iou 12 is Inure crnlcerned wilh t.hc htmII1L f¢ctors ILan section 5 wuuld bo? l\fr. UnoN. I Iltiuk str.liou 12 Is )1. S11CCIl1t1 ('llqCtllWllt rxlcnQilt~~., iu n uav unr jnriwlicl.iun un ngn:llp nf cLtsses of Innduclv, fulsl, drn~., Jeri(rs, nr c.o.uurtic.c. ()tr vtay Lnsic jnris,li'lin,l htrn tvna ill n v('nst'. spcllt11 nld. nnd rxltntlyd a lill.lo. bit nlnPe. Afr. 111N11:Its af Florida. Yvs. 1Vt'll, I do uot. Ihink you have got. Ilhe gist of my qnc.ainn. I snid du yun Lltinlt Ihis bas nlure t.n tln with hettlllt sina+ Cheso items aro set fnr16 in M.r.tion 12, tll:tn section G 6av lo do wil.h 110,1010 Ah. I)Ixax. lintt n'Inn n.pplirll lu fhe Frv.k1nl'llndr ('onmmission, (bu{;rcnsntau, slill tvu wrrt+ in Ihn /ickl uf nth'ertising, vrcn Ihau-0h i6 dtull. tcilL hrn.l/ll pru:locls (11111. PUIIIII IH' 11 htnll6 6nzartl nr tcn wighl. sa1' a htnlllt I,n,6km onlld uri=r. ln Ihnir mmwl'nclnrr us t1rll as ILcir salc. IL dcalt vl>tr.ilirnlly Wilh hol6 nsl,orIs uf Ihal. Ahn florr.Iw of FlnriJn. R'itll ndcnrlising, 6u1t ill 16m Iln;dth lit<Id Ilrre ncl.nally tri1.6 fond nnd drns. 'I'Im(s is tr6nl it-spccilinully nleuld. lo do; was it not? Mr. I)IxoN. I tcoldd nny tc6tn if )rnt Io Ihe Fwlt'ral 1'r,tdr ('um- minninu, 'co tcrru lalkiup; In(nre aLout rrononlirt: Iltnn wo aern nbuul. Iko IlralLL nslmct uf it., :tllhnug6 Ivrorulbor it tcn., at 16t+ .nmr linlc I Ittiul: in IU:tR t.lml, qnn Ilnd r.nwt unurnlnaIt1r: In Ihr Fua,l nnd Drnp, .\Itlninivtraliun. IItrns nnlclllk11 1hnl. tht'u. Alr. Ifnul,:lts ul' L'Inrillu. Yrs. SV6,dI:uu Imlking uhant is false ad- cmi.isrlucnt of fond Imd dru;!i would ba more inclined, f)robnbly, to ;;u to t.llc he/lllh, would it, not, )chicL tre gave you Ihn nnlhorily to nufuran olv lu nllrarl.ixin~; ill secl.inu 12? AyronLl Llntl. 111, 1.rn:+? A1r. I)ISON. I would like to b(t a.blr, tu say lo you ILnIt they rnikht. 1[+) In L6r, Ilen Itll, hnF. t.6oy Inig6t not go to lmall.lt, ttxt. Al r.ltanzms uf Florida. f uudrrsl lmd- Afr. UIxnN. 'P6clr. :ve ol6or Aenyv 161tt yon can adverl.isc mnl nlis- n,.presnnt.. A1r. R+slr,aA uf 1?loridlt. Right. A1r. DIXON. {Vil.huut Iltlkiuf nLout.t6c Ilnnlth problom. Mrt R(Kna<s uf lyloridn. ISnl.now sr.trt.ion C gocs to teltat? Afr.l)txuN. (iocsl.otlecept.ion. AI r. Ittsolcnx of Florida. I)ecoption 9 Afr. I llxoN. Unf:tir practice. Alr. 1(tNasnvuf l~ loridn. 1in fnir prncl icc? Alr. I)hxoN. 'I'llat isril;llf.. 6fr.htHa:l:ur,fNLnida. Sil;ht. Andnn( Itslnuahluhcatllh? 61r. 1)IxoN. 11, in all inclusico Ilcrv.. 11, aovcrs occry'Ihing Ilnrr, sir. II. (c:ls LLc trisdom, I nt,.nin sny t6u tvisdotn of Lhc Cun~ress ral6t'r Iltnn tu Iry In sn.v and elia.i5 n11 of LIm Ihims Ilud, Cuugress cnnlll Illinlc I lnd. (Innld 6e unf:li r mtd nll I.hatI could Im 41ocept.ivo, so I ltey 10011 I htl I;tnnric nr Lrontl Irnrrl mtd snid yon shall procecd nqainct nn un fnir prnct.irc-

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1311 (~u1ItFl_rr: f.Al1e:I.INr; qM) aUCKUI'I,INI;-IDf,5 11r. L'ounalti nf 'I'exu.,. Nun~, I)nrlur, ynn woldd nolt lell Inm ILuI br r:nlwc IL uli:~hl. Lo, uerv..:u't' tn u/lviµr .uwe un 1 nl' I,rup1c 1.6nt- Illeth;nl hrru nu6jrtIrd lo nu rpidruliv ur Ille liuai~lilily of :lu epitlrmi,. herlnlsn uf 16n Innsim uf S.nnwhrrms', I Ilnl. I6nt, wuldll :udllorir.e ynu In "n inlu n.rurrll un (olwnnInrnUuuw lu tltIerwiueo hnte il. tV onltl Le.l,rA tu grl. 16:11. infnrm:llinn fn thrm ut'rr n~k/rrlrl I,erial of Linte'? I Ir.'I'elncr. I.rlI wu Ilnn 11. nrnnuJ Illi:c Ic;ls :Incl sny t.hnl. I Illink, for inslnu(n, in relaliun lo Ioulnuwic.nlde disr:~~r., I t6m k it is vw~.y im- Ilnrlanl. fur us to lind uul. 6ntc lo gel. in fnruntl iun In Iltn publio] cu 1II:11 Ihny teill uullrrstnod il, and renrl. In ild nnd Iltko slops to ptol.rr,t Iheir Ilenllll Afr. Rlxnat+ nf '1'esuv. Ax lu Lutc I he.1' retipnnd to Ihe ndvrrl.i5ing Ihnt.}'uu pnl.nnl.? I h.'1'ulutr. 'f n I lle iuforlmlt ion a~r. pnttlnf, Alt'. ltogets. Alr. lk>,:ruR of 7'esav. Yn4; w ynur dul}' ie uult only lu do re.se:urh . itt wnkin~: dclortuinafiuns, bul. t~omdnl} is also in rr.velur.h in Ikr curiunti Iin1(In uf hotv In get Ihin lu I6e 11uLiic to clntviut)e Illew nh In tchatt your lindiugti ha.vee bren. 1)t.'1'rantr. I think om' nnlhoriz:liiuu in relntion to Iho rnllerlinn nnd dissentinnlion uf iufmlua-tinn ilntl edurnl.iun in Ille 6rnIIL Bekl ina.lmleu til ull irtiuf how peullle rrnrl, to Lc:I Illl Innl lel'c. iAh'. ICnalenn ut"1'exns. Yon know, 1)urlnl', t.ltis is vorti' inlrresiinw In Inn bcrnli-r. tco hnd n spro.iul wlLrlnuiuillrr etitaLlitherl, ~l dnn't. hunlt' tt'hrlller Llley et~er dicl :luyllliu~ ur nul, in tlle t'unhrrnsS, to liwl uel tcllrrta nll 4 this luun(y was goiur 1'or Illrse sn-r~lllcd resenr,6 ur li...Cl). qjer.ts. ~ PlcrrylIr/acly tcats dninl; retirntrh in rrrr}' Ilirevlinu :unl no oue. Inlelv tcLo wals dninf~ tt'hal. Note, if olll nl' tL(ne dtparlmonts mr LJaiuf; Ihe cunw puvitiotl, Ihnl, Wllen yau du tiunle resrwucll in pn6lic he:lllll, wlln.lever yow' tiudin", nrr, tLrtL rnlil7ov you I.1Lrn to go inlo tmeaerL, inlo rotumnnirnl inn~, iulo adtertisiur, tnlu rtrryllLin;; elve, m:l}bn tce lnma Rnlleu to Ihr ruol.nf ILis I hinr, nnll sowrlhinf± watrolnr out nf it. 1 tcunld hnpr so. It tvon IJ rrli ni uly vu.cr tl loll of uluurt. Nutc, 1he~;o. tplesl-imis I Imt tcert+ nnkrJ by ton ni' Illis t;rnnh af peuplr, wllo d id 1.6n I. a::k i ug'{ I lr.'I'etun-. i11r. Pu~rrv, mny f:IsIc 1)r I lorn tn resl>,md lo Ihis? \fr. RosH:uenfTexo~. 1"r5,eir. 1)r. '1'r.lncr. 11tt tclls rrapousibin for our slmcoy. Rnt hefntn I luote to 111:It, itl COIIne,11i011 R'illl yOnt' /'olnnlillr(', ytllll' FU.1Htt (ninlllillell Uf LIIe 1luuse tnldnr Afr.('~nrl PJ~linlt. ~ ~ Mn 1L(mttns of Texns. Yes. lh'. Te.lter. T11e rouuni/len did SIwl1' ILr. lnalter of reve:urlt nnd tlccr.lopmrutt in IheTederal f)ncrrnmrnl_:wd ile reporls nre Iwnilable lo yoq :nld LLr,y nrn inl rrrsl.inj! rr:ulinr. illr.Rnr1.Ils oF'Pe~av- 1'es, vir; crrr inlrrenlinl; rnndin~.bnt I hncr nnver hean nhlee tn I,ml, to llte menl nl' Ihn rutonnt, So to cprnlc, in it, wd f ihink Illis: 1 dnn'~I Icnnw tvhelkcr Uley tuisled by Illiv nr n-d, Lnl. I don't I ltink nny of 111:11rolunlil.lrr brlirrrti Illal: t.6e 1'ublic lTrvlllll Scrcire. La5 Ihe rif!6h, audr.r Ihe lutthnrily euu 1Llcr, aud I tt-nldJn'I ILink ILnt th(ry ttoldd Fny tllnl. I.Le Fedrr:ll'IS'ude. (lowntitsion 1cntOd he nblr 1o omplqy IhniSnmr. rulr- I f Illey did, t-Iley nre. limble lu gel in luld pii6 }'olt ouL of 1llr. 1'ublic I lrnllll Servirr tunl I:II:ee utrr Iknt Iirlil. CI1:1111i'I'l'I: LAIlI:LINI; ANII AI)1I:It'I'IKINIp IJ11a 11r.'frautc. 1 1'r:lllytlan'1. feel Illrrnlrnrll. 111', liuul:r.n nf'1'txnx. I kuuw )'un clun'l. 1)r.'I'I;lun~. Nul, ill I.hal. rrr+:vd. \lr. Ruulwsof'I'esllc. '1'Le Iltiug, IL:d. 1:Int tcurried n6nul, is Illalthr. .Ilnerirenl IuNl/,l}rr migld, frcI I6realenrd ullirlt I Ihinlc is 16n uw. IhoL/inglll 1n Le. rrreitinri I Imrnnsillor:l( iun. 1)r.Ilnnn. \~uum;IcrJ tchodidILrnrllal iulrlt'ietviu"? :\Ir.li1N11<IlS/lf'I,exI1V SP3,411. I)r. Ilnrtn. Ill Ihe. vm've}', Ille. rrsldls uf tc6ich tcel'o relrnl'Ied Ileln? 'fhe inlrrt ieos.crre rondnl+led Ly pruleasinnsl inlerviewers re5pousible. lo I he mnrkel1 res'ruell ronqln.ny tcllirlt trns na'arded I he cuul racL nnller olmn rnltlpnl il ive bitldiu,( dninF, I lu tieltI work uf 1 hia study. Nr. l2,NI1:I1M nf 'Pexa,. 1)urlur, }ou nre. I I uing luo fnsff fur wr, ynu Su} prnfetisionsl interrictcrt'S? Ih.Hu1tN. Yrs,sir. Mr.Il. auatvnf'Ibcns. \V 6nul:nlnl11eu11,rofesaionul? I)ill 16ey Ilnve u litense frnul wnlrhudl' } 1)1.11u¢s. No,xir. Alr.lk+naivuf'I'rxus. W6nsaicllluy:u'tIn'ufrcvionnlv? 1)r. I lnltrv. 'I~Ilrt' :ur. exprrirorrd inl ervietcrr~ uu 1 hr st a lf nf IILe rnnl- p;ul}' n 6ir11 irvls I Ilrnl. 111 r. Vu/:lacn of'I'r~ati. 11'IuIL romlr.lnv is I lr.d ? I)r. I lunN. 'I6is tensN:I/ inwll :lnllls~l~, Inr. All'. Illw:rm,euf'I'1xac, ,\nd tdLwrrl is:Ihnllur;dal? I)r.llnln.. f'hiLIdr1l,Liui:;ilsL~aQqn:nt/1'v. Alr. Hortr:wcOf'Ib.c:ls. Ilcnc nlnrll iunurl(lill lIley rrrrici fnr Innlcinf; I hrso querir;4 1)r. 11utoN. 'I'he utiginnl runl rn1'1 trns nbuul y~:ni INIU. Al r. Ilnw:uv uf 'Iexav. I )o ywn laluw In:a rn:uly prupl/ I Iloy tall:rll (u? -1)r. Iluttrs. l'rs. '1'6rn't tc/rr, jwa nudrr Li1Nl l,rnplr :IOlunlly iu- Irrvirxed in 160 luniu A wjr. Alr.Itur,ett.nfTrxnv. Ililynll lul,nt'llnri umn}'(iflllus/trrrrplunkrrs Ilud IuHP nl:rnt W,nFninI(PI',e Ih'. IIoI:N. I dnu'I Imrr Iln.:c li,lin.: rl;.III Lrrr 61d ccr dn 6a Ihnsllirlu'Ix AI r. Itlna:¢v nf'Prxns. 1)id / kry rCo/ I Ilnl in furlwl/ iou 1 Ur. 1lulcN. 1/6, yrs, 5ir. nlrI l:nacnnclf'I'exas. 'I'het' I:nouc, I Ilv nnal}~sts do? I)r. IIut:N. 1'cs, sit. '1'hi:; sInnplv tv:lz Srlrclell sn nn to Ix rrlme. uut:d,lve. of the tnlnl ntlditpnpul:diou . 16e IlnileJ til:dra, n.r. 'll nrnrnr rre:idiu~ in pritnlr hnu.r6olJ~. 61r. 1Lx1latc of 'I'tsne. I)uIIMr, dn enn Illinle Ihnl if Iluy Il:ld in- rledell a. qnv:dinu iu Illrre,'I /n yon Illiulc Iln Inxpal'orI uf Ihis N:Ilinu ou;,.ld, to Le lln_einr for nle oul. 1ui'e a,kin~ yuu qnrslinns like I6is.)' tc6aL clo ynn III Ink I hr unnttrr ttunld lulvr. I)rru? 1)1'. Ilulw. I nln =nl-r)', .1'nn crill Im.ce" to rrllenl. Ikal, Iltto~linn7 sir. 1 j!utI,,:el. 111r. Rcw:e115 ol"frxns. Ilnltnrnt}' qurslinn dill Ilny' have, quile n fen ? I)r.lllntN. .Abonl :41111, ~11'. If/xtt:r.huf'1'rxnti. .ALnul an/)'? I )I'. I lulc~. lr~,:cir.

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40 CIGARF:TTE LADM[.1N(1 ANiI ADPF.IITISING-1005 imporlant uJtribullyof full persounl success nNd Ilovelopuwnt.. All of these. IIle.nlns Nre, of e.om:se, 'll.l.rncl.ivc lo (ee.n:t/rerc, nud r:nlio and lollrvision prornnus stluuxorcd by cif!ulr,l.lo wanul~ltllaums clln bo scon utd heurJ n.6 u.liy tiNle, of d:ty or night. CigaretJ:e cumpnuies wero founll to lm ILe, spuusorv uf nutnurmis trlovlslnn progrn.nls Im.ving It pn,rl.ieularly large:tndinuee of childrnu n.nll Lrun},crs, thron/;h w6icL t.hcy ,N1;geal/xl to tllem ovcr nnd uve.r again t6e Ilasil'Itbilil.y of swok- ing, vvil.lwulv sul;gesl inh iu uwl.y' tc:ly Ilmt rllildren shnuId uul u u oltn. uoltn er Ih:dI vwulcinp IuihLll imlrlir uNl~~ he:tllll. Ouu progr:lan, "The liev- orly I lillbillu;v" llad nN audinnl1 uf !hildrnn 2 lu 1`d yonrs of u.gn e/1Nyl lu 116 millinn, nr ;lbuut 3H,R Imreent nf (lle. cltiMu of the Ihutad til:deti of Ihld a;;c gronp. Ih la sponsurell Ily Wintilon. :1Nd, Mr. ('hNirmmn, this intpnl'.6 uf ril;u.re.l.le nllcnrt.ising nn young llvnplo wns a pnrkieul:trly iwportaul. constderation in onr prolr.eding. :lrnilnLlo dnln on :vtoking pul.lernm indirnte Ihat :In evrr-increltsing Ilrolloliiun nf pe.rsuns iu yuuurer ui{e grnul:s :tre berWnlint{ rehul:u' Swolcnl:s. Alnuug lunles 35 to t,'1 1'rnrs of nRe. :ts uf l/'ebrnary 1955, GI.4 Imrcent Ilad Ileculne reglllnr anloklrti Ilrinr ta the :Igo of `ll, Itnrl :unoug fenl;llen "Il In :41 yenr' of agr,'~H tl Ilercent hnd 6eromo rernla.r ~luukers prior lu Illoe age uf 21. Ify runl rnnl., IINluNn Innles nntl fe.nNtleS '1G lu A-4 yenrv nf npe, GI `3 pwvvNt uurl 7.b porrenl, r1:511r,cl.ive.ly, hNfl Lrrolnn re~.ldnr sulnl:e.ls lniur to I he :lee of 21. 1Ve Rol0 sonie ot'ern.ll tndie.ul.iuN uf thc ell'e..livencws of udvettising Ily ma.IciNR u eoiupxrivun uf r.i;,rarrllee c.onslnu diun d:ttlt attd ;tllver- tising ezllenlliltu'ev d:dal. Rrl.lrrrn t!IL6 :uNl 1Df2 Ihrre tc:ls au iurrrusr of _)6.H plrvcellliu Jomndil' ri,:nml.ln ronvnnlpl.iun und ifi9 Irorrenlt iu dumr~l.ie. cil{:Ire.llecnltsnulldinn nn/l Ui-D pmrrnlt inv.rclco iu per rul:ila r.irnrelln ronsuulpl.iuu. In 16iv vn.Nlr period uf liNlc lllereo tcasa. 17:1 pererut inr.rerlse in rig:urlte allverl isingexlmnditures hy 16e, six Iralliuh ulana faaltnme. . .lunlher inllirllliun of 1}le.o.lfer.lsuf ri~:n~clle.udrerlisin~,un eigare.l.lo luutimuldinn is furnnl in ihis qaole I'ruul the April 20, 1cJC1, issne of Allve.ti.ising :1ge. .\eril .ulr.a d' I'. LurillnrJ lS,. :Irr, rNUnili, ::L:wd ni' Innl[ youru, fullwriug n ..i'nc hiint" iN F.bru:uy ll::wk. In parl I" 'rrrnrd lovIx uf adverl.lchtt;," _Nlorlou J. /hmwr, prrsldoul, 1.r1/1 ILc rvomp:mc's mmunl Involhlg Innny. L'o 'nnw nf Ihr Nnre/uu Itrmr1I'u nqwrl :uNl "rulnVrllllco ,uunldernliuNs' LnrilLvd'ti nJrerfiNiug rq;lehod r/elrrll 1/rrla dnriug Ihe first IINwle.r, lie said. In ~prnd Ilu'so rornrJ anNmnlu lrnn mmll in the fnll Icnnqlellirc Ihul r~~nmiiluuul~ ul' Ihi,a umguilnJh. lc"nld ACUlli,nullY u0'rrl. /nlr nl:vaNlr Jrprl'.:u'J rnruiutC., bnl il Im.. :Ilro::dp Lr..'N pru,c:l auwld--bT the Lnrnarnlln/l in nalln,.. nai/l 11r. lr:lm,r. 1 fn.ving in alind Ihn.n nml Illn nlllr.r ::onsidarnlions set forlh iu ils .INlwnr.nll of hasis :nul purpovo uf it.,: rule, ILn Cnmtni.,Nion fell. Ihn.tt itt tvntlld nol, bn iu I6a publir, iulcresl. In iva.vn mlregNlaled the adver- lisinr nf cip,:n'rlll:a uNll Ilterelly I'nil lo hnve. Ille INILIic, es;ImniNllly rhildren, Ic,u'nr/l af Lho relnLinnSLil/ hr.lltren l.ig:l.retln sulnkunn ;Incl Lcall It. lit I.Ilk oonucrJ.iou, Lntce.vr.r, I tcnldd pointt out Qlnt tltis tvas on the ARsunlpliou Ilml, IIaA C rvlNdilinn« of rigrnet.ln :Idvcrt.isinjg woold cnnlinao mlchnntroll. IN its puLlin6e/l A:tteinnM, 16e ('.nnunic.ion e.x- pressly recn'mizell IJmt circlnnvtal.ures 1Ni>;hL r.llangm, aud ILnI, sncll chaurn cnnllvell'erd. l.knpublir, inlcrl>51lcilL rrsllcek. to lltettenfl fori.ho requirrd Illsclnvmo in rit,r:n'ellnullvrrli5in' tvoldd r+m(innu, tmehnnRed ln if,u I,nLlis6rd vinlonirnl. Iho ('::ulnli....i", , .nn.'.=Iv 1:, .~oi--I Ill.1 l1fnARtiTTr, nn[61ei.ING AND AUVIRU'rISING-IOnS 41 rlrnluuvNl,nres ItligLt cluGlf!q nnd 16:11suc6 chlwge anuld n.ll'ecl. Iho pnLlie in(nlrnl, n'illl respoct.lo the urrd fur ILn trqmred tlisclosm'e iu rigurel.(o allvertisiug. Itont.e, Ihn Clnnmis'sinn made expmse provision in tllc t'Ido fnr'IrnlinR a'ilh snr.ll cllun;rrd cirrunlsln.nres sllnldd Lltr.y :,:,Ift, ft not only expressed IJIa ltopo tLnt, the industry tvoald vnl- NNt:l.l'ily bring nboNl, sae.lt chonges in its pt'ncticcx Ite 1~oldd oLvinlo illn need for furlnal enforcTlnent. prorne/liugs or Faltclinns nrainst. it., Lql, also prnvided Illnl, the ('anmlivvinu \vnldd rtttel'I:lin no npplieft- liuu lilrll prior lo May I, I!IIiG, by uny inlereslell pNl'ly Io Ile:<Ilwna 16u elfrrl.irn dnte In' ul6er\viso suSpeNd, modify, or a6rrngnte Ihe- prn- ci~ion nf i.lle rule as to nllvr.rl.ising, aIInn :1 vhnn'ing af such n c6nnRn iN circnntsl:uires ns In juslif', it, in Ilu, pN61ic inle.resl.. 'I'o Ilnle, ltn. sNCh n.plrlianLioN Ilns been lilell. ~ r. ("hn irouul. '1'll:e6 rnlnplrt rs Iny formnl stnlemenl Tf 'l'hn ('ftnlunt+N. '19uutk yoN ve.ry ntnc6, Mc. I lixun, fur yonr slale IuCnt.. In GuIher rofelrnro l0 16in prnlN:cnl, 1 IMlirve itr tv<luld bel npprn- prilde ntl fllis timo lo inehtda fls :t Imti. nf the reror'1 Ilv reGrem1' Ikn repnr6 of the rnwmillec, tc6irh Lnr: Lren referrcd lo here lodut' Ir1' vuvertl ag the "TllNU ltibbnu ('uuuni."inly" ill urdcr Ihnl. Illr rn/u- Niiltrl, and Ilw rrcord waY Lnvn ILiti:tvaihtblrv. Alst I heliove il-tvoulll lu, npprnprinln to ha.ve Lhr, recor:l lo iuclNllo by tr.ferrnen the buolt- letI sNppnse. Ah'.IhzuN. 'I'llnl.rnderrrnl:diult rule. 'I11o ('llaulm,\N, 1Pl:o Ilmpnsed Irnlle rrlndnlinft rnln Ill:tlIeNs re- frrmd /o 6l'rc Nveau' ngn :INII Illlio6 Illc ell:lirtuaN hnll ttiill 6in1 :Ii IhulLu/, 116rll \t'n~:livclnsed. Nr. l luun. EN/leswl 117111 Illnl rnlo nlsn in l.llr basis nnll plupo::l, of IIro rnle. Ii in iN It. hnnklel;'fnrm, air. '1hn ('.IlnncmnN. 1 tcuttld nssume yuu knve plenty ~F enlries nf IJtis, Iln yuu uoL/ Afr. 1kxoN. 11in h:tvn I thinlc 111 tcilh Ns, LNt if there is ;tuy ]tecd far n.ny mnre, tee will turn over nlnra In.yon, sir. 1Vre Ivill snpply I1a1111111yn9yoN neMl,9ir. ''llo ('.n:\uth1AN 1 rrcall Illern tcrra nnly tt few rupies :Ivnil:161r.:11 Ilte Limu il. tcuz n.lntomlrrd u~'r,u' nRn. 1\1r.IhxoN. We.verrprinlinglhe.lnlltatday,sir '16n Clf.luenlnN. 1I nln nl>f. slu'e if I rveu ha.ve oltn luy°olf. I ll:lre oun af t.llu nl.llets. T Ntn ndvised Ih:tt \cee h:lvo urt luupln .Npldv h:rrI< in ILe rnuunil.taso rootu, su tltllt tcill sldlire. I f,vo do newl :In} tnore, tcn will n/lv isa yon. (The Lrnd/, re~ldntinn rnle. referred In fnllnlvs:) GRnr:n.lt'rnAnr: (lnnl nrtRHlnN, Il'nnhDlplmr. 'Ill1nN IiNnUI.\'I'nIN 1111Lr: Itpli 1'11R I'I[N\'KN'1'IUN /IF UN4'All/ lnl Ih;cBlT1rN AUI'rrn- 11:11.'ll ANn I,AIII+LINI: f/l' (.111:1IiP.':"!':!N IN tI6::.A'I'[nN':'1/T11F Iin.A1:1'll Il\'LANIIN /1R .SFIOIqNn 1'Ann:m+rN 1. 'ncu~ D'rdcrnl'Prnde (tuluwivsinn. Pnr,1111Nt tu IIN, 1":'Jrr:d Tr::da CUIIIIIIIHNIOII Avl, ::F Illlpnllfll, IG ILS.II 4A'll, ct vlq., nNU Ihr pruc(Nlulw nf PuLp:u'I P:'f thw Ummlliusion's 1'rucrdnrrs nnd Itnlrs uf 1'rarli'v. 28 F.R. 7113:1.fit 1111rt1, Ims euuduclod n 1:rurerdiNg fur Iho Pruundk:llinn uf a 'I'r:nlo Itr,nlnlinn Rvle, 'n itnles. for Iho PreveNilan of unf::ilr ur do,reliel nrl+ mIruli'! in tL: snlu or /l:,urllru. Nnll'r uf I.his VlnirvdiN m/INqh, .: 1 f peii..l 1 IINI/c, ICUV 1 ubli:au'd In Ilu NrJ'1'tl Ib.c.l 1: N.Iuul

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?tl CICARIi'rTP: LAnISI.INIa AAU Allvlilt'r'ISIN(-ID65 11fr. 1hzoN. Anil 1cilll t:houw anlrndlutuls :rinrr '1938 11r. 6nto 6ad this renpouhiLilil,y. AYe procredell iu ot large nwnikr of ruvs. '1`hrc have hecn cln'ricd to colu't. 'l'he.y have Ilt+en fully tinstninrd n; lcil hin the respousihility uf the IFederal'11ude ('ouunissiou. blr. hlAClnmAl.n. 1LiglIL. Well, Ilmis is whal, you went, Ihrom+h at soule leul;t.h wilh Congressmno lioi;ers, and I was going t,/ qmal.inu yuu furl6er ult tllo.tt vrr.5' pniul. Ilc kelrt Wn.ll. Rorr.rn niul I hnvn qlva.ysdxrn {!uod frirnds, nn:1 I rr::prr.l. holh his :Ibililt~ :Iwl 6i< jnd~,mcut-Ilnl. he kopt tolltin~ abnal. a radienl chnngr, in t1le pntio- dlue, nud I ttns going lu say to hiw, n.utl I did any lu 6iw privalnlv, Lh116 e.onlim~ fronl'1'n.os he is loom fllnlili:ir tvith r:tdir:ll rhau~/? tLun 1:un. Itntt il. JiJ uol. ::e"ul to mr. Ilmt. Ihis m;,s murll nf a ruJiral cllnnt;e.- Rh. 1)ISON. f do nnl. Ihink it is nlnch of a. r:rdiraJ c.kauge- I 1.6ink it was a, chnn{;e, ono I hld. hn.d ns il s ovetnll objartie/s fair pl:y', a moru $t i r pruv,ed u re. l.h nu thc ol d pruccd lm3 o( nun nl a t.i me. '1'ho (;uA utn1AN. lYill tlLe gentlemml yinld 4 .AIr.AlAr:oorrAl.n IyieldtothecLa.irmnn. 'I'Le (lll.unnt AN. Mr. RaRerl, neadv nn nnn 10 defrlul hitn, Inlt hr di:l ndvisn wo IJmI. lu+ hnd lu I~~odc oflrr aulotller prublt~m. ltld. al Lhr Liuln, av 1 rrrnll, nl r. lln~c.ls rrfrrrril tu I hn "rndic:ll clcul~c" ahir.6 tras I he IanR+mtgo you used, AI r. (;hairwnn. I lo nsed your very tvm'lls ye.;- 'I.1rday, wul I Ihildc we mlKht. 1.1 stad.e Ilrnt for the recot-11. IC tt'ns uot Atr. Rogers' cl:lim Lhat. il. was rlnlic:ll. '1'6nw, wore Chnirman 1)ixnn's wer ls. AIr. I)INON. I hnd desc,ribed onr.vnys of doing things ns rndic,all)' d i Ilcrcut f rom tho tray we nsed to do t.hings. AI r. 111 AcuoNAl,u. It il;ht,. NIr.lllsuN. AndLepickcdnph6ewurd"ra+licnl" Alr AL.aunNAl.u. Ile u.wd Ihe tconl.5 "radical chnnge in procedlu'e." AI I' I)I XDN. Yes, sll. Af r. A1ACUUNAI.n. l te wns nol. justiplol.ing yoan words. Mr,l)IxnN. Ycs,sir. nlr. 11fAUOOxAI,n. Ite nnlsl, have nsed Ihe words "radical chnnan in proce/llue" 1!i dill'tnn6 timlti ineludink nknin tLis moruint;. Sn pr- hups yeu olxmed--- A f r.1)I xoN. 1 mlty hnvu opmind thu 6ox. Illr. AIACIroNAI.n. Yml opened Ihe Lnx, nnd he jmnprd in. In n.uv case, nlr. ]togers net.nnlly hnd used thrso words, and my point is, sinco ~-on In>t.h lurd uxvl Idlem, thnt, lI do not, believe it is n. radical chmtggq or lullr,ed luty change, at all. Tho power, it seems to me, was always 1 hore, hut you did not. We litR to exerv.ise it. until 1962 ls'thnt cutreat.? Mr. I11.oN. You hnve stnted it'hr6trr thnn I could sir, I am sllm. Alr. 1lfnunnxnr.n. And tho second point. is Ulat yon ntro are eserr,isim, t.his puwor t.huL yoa have bccn t;rluded bv the Congress htTaasr, fnr::ur 1'enson, for Ihe lirst. t.imr, the subjt~L lua.llrr invulved eoncfiLul/w ;t t.ional probinm. Ituyl» 1beint,+ lnheled silk, or other malrrials being labeled silk, dn11= nol; prcuunt, Imrhnps, n nol.iunnl Indllic, hc:lllh problrln. lSld. yun have ber,n told by a coltunit.lee t.hat wns set, up fnr t.his Very pnrpose t.halciRn rel te smolciugis n national Itenlt.h problem. Nr. 1hxnN. AuJ Ihny c.:tlleil npnn lhe GovernmenL to Lnke inuur- dinle rmnedinl nclion. 1'll{AnICr'1'L: LAIIF:IINI; .L\D AIIVbaYI'I.tiIN/:---1965 77 AI r. AlACnnN.v.u. Ri;!hl, Imd thnl~. is n'hy I sny if you did not du cmna iliiuR :I hnul. il, you wnldtl -In u,u I h:IL cun~rrssinnnl rlinln~--hnvu Lcrn Jcl'mlirlf in yuur dut.y. Alr. 1)ISoN. I feltso,sil',andl knowthntnssnnnxsthicreportcnme iu:~uil very slLOrily t.hcrcefter, llr.'1'erry ntloptrd hasicnlly Ihe lind- Ing ., 16e rc:onlmemlal.iuns in it, nnd hrre is the chief healt6 ollieinl in Iho f fuitcd titnlrs nf Americn w6ou1 we called upon for advice and ;uillnnre was giving it, lo us, aud. Rave it tnthe whole public, very forl.h- rihld-ly, nnd I hn.vo nol, srrol him ilevinln or chnnirc or rluclc siu/o thnt dny. illr1 lL1rat"N.uar. In +4o1io[,+, virt I tvonld )tlstr like Io sny Ihis, hr- r;w~eyrslc.rdav ~ecer:rl Alrlnbrr~ Intlir;tlcll IVlrir disapprecn.l uflhiti 6ill ou the 6avic grotmlls Ihr}' 1rtrn frunl lobarce Slales -iu fnct, ynu 1~~n r=c l f.4: t id I hltt ynn .vern f rmm ~ taibacco Stutu. Mr. I)IxnN. '16e Sln.l.n nf T-unrn1re I,mbnbly is fift6, sislh, nr rlSuul 6 in Ihn prnilncl ion o f I oLnoro- AIr. \f%/noN.u.n. I)n t'an nolt fcol thnt. Ihis is nol. ;t ulntlrr oF I~J~arrn tiLde~ ut' Il~~lilo~N/ako nt :rnV In'nlhlct Slutes. I'rl'hops ol1' n~cu til:do uf \Ins,:n:~6asrlts hns ulenl' n/lvrrtio-ars O6irh :Irc nllr~-Ir~l I~c Ihi~. Ilnl. iw ilt nnl n Ipu,liom uf a nnliomnl pn:Llrui vrrsus a rrgiou:ll I,rnblrw,;Ind itisnet I rur iu yoan Lelilf, as ili5 in miuo, thnt Ihn vnunger luoplr of Ihe. Ilniled 5lnles--IUrJ I know Ihntia also it cli, ~llr, 6ott sinre the clwirm:ul indnlgrod in somo reminiscencc, I will Ino--Ihnt [ nnl not. lulawnre of nthlrt+s lcho do smoke. I do nol.lhink Ihntl i,v the 'Iroblrm, Itul: it. i.v Ihe ynmgrr L>.vs, 14, lG, nnd lli, m'hn, t'1rn Ilnnlr+h Ihrir ruurll trll:a tlnm Ilndt if Ihlv smukr, Ihey aill not tnak:. Ihr club nrrlrlhelrvs, if Ihcy nrrv rspnsed lo n 1c6nlr scrn:< of ru.lnr=r,u~uls allllrlAv, Ilut juNl. "(~raz}'lovv' Ilil'srll, Inll :Inlm 1C. Nnliuual, ami mmn.y u Ilro ot.htr fnntnns prlyer5, rrrnlliuc Soulr uf Iheir hrsL plnyn aull t~lnu I.Itcy ce n Irhlvlr'ti run tvI:irh :+ho11tz 6iu1 ,.nr-rnwsinC Iht' liobl, rmming, I:11) yart7n, Inn(l hnvinR II gnyr' uu. ~u~'~~ti-fully l,Ikin{q n sLot at hiuw, thal. to nny Ct-, I t-, ur IG-vc:u'~nld ho~, pni know Ilmll piclmn i:a tcurlh a. Lhnmmnd lvnrlls, nnd t.lmt t6is piIlorc tconld seero to sny to Lhrre Iwys, "No wnltet wha.l, ynue cuarh d~~~', sny, if these prnfocsionnl :Ilhlrlrs smake, if thvsr hm~trs r~ulokt, i f Lhr=c Irachnll plnycl'.GSmokc..- - AGt IIIZnN. ILducsuol Inn'tlhrm. \Ir. \L.1CuusAl.u. 'I'Leu obvinn'ly it. iv noit l;oing, In Ilurl. thtIn. 1 ruulIl nul. help bol. go inln Ihis )elrl-irnhu :Ispvrt uf tltoe prublrnl Le- I think Ihat, is ono of Ihc Ir,lsic prol/lrms t/InC urrdk rnrrcr(ing, p , n.ud caertninly I thiult Ihl. tobncrn rVlhrr hv yuu or by the Con~r cuple I hcm4elt'cs nmst, he lllrn ro of it bec.anse as y ou imlicnted, I hero :uv G1crr yonnt!cr people smokin{;' nm~ thc.re lue fe11'et' u1.11I0Ies rlvin,n, ILrlr -.n/hnsrtnrnLG. ln rnnl.hulinlr I tconhl like Io conqlliwrnt. y+nl :mll !'iclil hnek ILe Il~nn. 'I'l1:uJc,you. :10:l I hnulc vou, t~lr. Clulirln:ln. Afr. IhxnN.~'I'L:ulk yoa. sir. 'lllo. ('nAmn1AN. I lcnuld nut .cnnt to overlook the farl. tud rrr- lainlv nut i~nore, sinc.e I nu~nt ioned the al hlel ic o+:pcrinnco of the dis- liu;;nwhod ("hnirman of t6e Federal 'rrntle ('nnuuissinn-Ihnt. the gnn(Llunn fruw 111~Issao.husclls, AII'. 111nalnnnld, mnn Iluillv uu nlhlrte Ili::..rll' nud 11 . hrrni. I'ludliall plLlycr nnd a hos.Lnll plnc..r fmm thl

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IZ1i CIU:UfI!'I'1'P: 1..1111:IdN/{ ANn AP\'I:IPI'111Nt--1116R so w:lylto tve ruuLl ruutu lo :t werting uf Ihe utintls autl nt'oid a loluftronlde. Ih'.'1'u:nllr. Dtr. Rogrrs, mny T say tLis, lit spenkin;; Al Iny 'Irintrd stalrwrnll lo you Ilern, I n'as spenking 1'or lllr. 1)eparlment. of Ile:dl6, 1?tlac:d iuu, nud Nrel f:ue. Alt. Kowoa,,,of'Prxax. 1'r5, sir ~ T unilor~l:uld. Ilr. 'Ihnne. '1'llis reporlInts Imrn carefully rrvintred Ily our fian- rral Connsrl, nnd lte haa Itkrecd tn 16is, so Ilt:d. it. Inls uol. failyd to Llwe legal revie\v luld consent invnfar as our lawyols are coucerned i u. I h e lleplut.ntcuf., si r. Afr. Tttxnsns of Texas. T)tes }-utn- (:euern.l ('ominsel feel I:hnt. Ille (longress ougLt, to dcle{[ate its Irp;islal.ive toa'ers Lo t.6o boa.rds nnd bw'euas 1.6nt, aro :tppoinlcd, i.ltat are not. I'ire+tly nusweaabke lu 16u peol de, l 01 k e rlrc.torato ? ]h'. 'Pelan-. I dn nol. know \aLat onr Gr.nota.l Counsel feels on a qurslion like Lhis, sir. 11'e Ien Ihn Assislllnt (ionr.rnl Conusel hrre. I lc rutJd pro6n61,y anso'nrfor 6ilnsrl f us n.l:l N'yer. Ttr. Rwon.nn of'1'exas. 1 Ihiuk il, is rynite itupm'tttnt lLecnnse .re nro ennvLwll)' running up agttinst.l6is si(uation, and I was very dislatrbed yeslerda,y when T1[r. I)ixon t.aslilied Ikat wLen Congress did not Spell oltt caclt t.Ling that, lhey felf. was dreeptive, flla.t. by nsinfg lhe wnrd "drecltlirti' II'ey simply openod ill) Llln donr fur Lllc Federal '1'ralla ('nmmi«iun to nlake nny deliuilion of "derrplive" ILey wunled lu, and 1 snY Lhnt undnr any Llteoty of ;q~ovrrnulrnl, if Ihal: is notlrgislni.inl,+, I do not lnlotv \vhnt, itt is. Nolv, waybn I Imt trrong :thonl. I.his, and maybe I aul licinR in Ihe pasl, nnd it so, I. think I will find i6 aal. Iivc,ulse the peopln ttt, hante suro (to not, wnnt tno living in ILe p:tnl. 'I'hn6 is it vaty dillir.nlf sit.uation. If tve are going to cLnngee thu fonn of our governntent I Iwugk, I I.h iuk I lie people ougLt I o have It c6oico in it. Novv, ])uvlnr, yon did say in Afarck of 1Dti5 ILatt yoa fell. 16u1 (ha lilniti of the responsihility uf Ihr 1'n61ic TTrldth Selvire Itns lo insuro I.)r.tt ratlt iudivitlnul lutrw Ikee fncls, :nnl ILat w6nl6rr ur uot. Ihny tptil, stnokin}; tva5 a In:dlrr for individnal delerminal.ion, did you Ilot? Dr. Tt;anr. T did not say thals this was Ute limit (if our respun- siLility, llec;wse we have a very lar;;o responsihilit,y in Ille field of ro search, D[r. ]logets. Ou Llte otller hand, if you rentove ILut lilnit- - INr. Rtxn:ns of Texxs. I nm I xllc ing ubuut cigaretle atooking. 1)r.Tlalu¢v. Sir? i<fr.lltxa:nsof'Ce,xas Iantta.lkiny;ahottt.cil;:u'et.testnokinF. 1)r.'1'xlnrr l know you are, and I am talking abold. rigarclle smok- ing, too. The point. T n.m rnaking is ILis, Ih:tt, we in Ihe 1'ublic, l lrallk Se.rvice Lavo :t rrsponsilrility .chiclt Rnev 6ryonrl infm~ualiou :nttl educnt,inn. Nr. Ronl:ftsof'1'rsas. Yes. 1)r.'1'1:nln. Welta\'eltl'1411onH1llllilvtos111)IIUPtI'esenrPll. 11fr.litxaacsof'1'ezas. 1'rs,sir:l tuulol3tandthat. 1)r. '1'rlun-. If you retnm-c tlw vcnrtl "limit," I wonld ngrce u'ith that, yes, sir. rlr.vllrr'rr; 1.Af1f:I.INn Mn AOCr:IPrISING--IU66 127 Plr. I'.uulAtv (If'1'ew~. II \cns In)understandiug Ihai, von watle.:t sinlrntruL I Lolirvv lu Llte I'rn~l'e~>ive F:n'Inet' magaziue. nr 111nrcL of Illisyrarin wllichyon'aid: 'I'kc Iiwn ~,f .mr rretV41aulUi111,Y i~ lu invrr Iknt rvrel~ ludividunl ImH hJl mrr.a 1-1 Ihr ucnlntbM Otrl.. nn rikiur/to cm..kluR ns It nmy tdfnI, his hr:dllt I Abitily 01 V.'owidp tor him.rlf aud hla fnu-ilp. Itryoud Ihts, Ikr tM'h6m 1., n,kc uD auJ runlluuc lu utilukr Is Ilir knWJ rvuwht Ilu, i~nr~~pallcc nf ILr IndlriJmil. Nott, did y'nu Say 11mt ut did ynu nul? lf yon did not, I think tct, onght la kno\v I)r.'ISuntr. I Jo uot, have a cupy iiuluedialelv at Land. I exjtect. I did. linl, N1r. Rogers, 1 Ihink if you tvill look ot Ilm vcltole urttcAc, Illis was tho srrlion lu \vllirh I tvus taikiny; nlront our tespnnsiLililies of Al fornnrl inn aud rdur.ni ion. tU t'. Ittnu:e~ of Texas. 1`ts, sir. Ur.'I'Iaurr. Aud it ~IiJ nol, vxrlmlr unl n`SponSibilitirs itt (he licld of rt'senrrh. Alr. Rnr.r:ns of 'Prxns. 1"rti, sir. 1V'rll nmv, Ilrnl is 16e f6ing that I tcnnt tu tumo tct. loa dn I'rrl Ihal. iu nddit.ion lu yoor dulies tn infurm ILe pnblic on 16e.,e mallrr, , t6at you should go intu research and Iltat sort nf Ilting, It wp:unte ralr,ory, nnd I certainly agrrn ui16 yon. Ih'.'I'emt.. \1'r havc 6ocu snpppn'ling resarrh on 16is Snbjeclt for wnny VrnrS. 61r. IPiuu:ns of'f~sas. Yes. 1)r.'Pt:mlv. And tcrrxprcl (oroutinne il,sir. 11tr. Hurrtw of Texnt. As :t utaltr.r of fact, Ihxtnl', Iel utr make myv.If rlrnr. I iLink 16aA. mnrr ulltuliun ought lo Ln paid hy' Ihr 1'nblic Ileall.lt Srrviccf to resrarch Itntn Al the fSeld of--for .vnut, of :t Lrl.ler tcnrd--lel. ns ka)' propurandizing, lrecauso I i.6ink sometimes I6rvm / iovernment nemnt'irti art grtling inla Ilntt. linl I do feel Llntt if you arrp in vntu Innhua~m Lrrr, iu }'uiu slateutrnl, Al ~tllirh Vou say--if I tan fiml it thalt ynn ferl_-Lrro.it is: "lu addilinu'-Ilns ie au pu;,ro ;i: '1'hc Ivtlralu/s trould prrvent 61,r rnummner frnum briug led. hancrrta salklly, In ikrbelh?1hutlheproJu,t k.snfe. Novr, 1 Lato listened n'itL hreat inlerest, to Mr. Dixon nnd to yom lest.imony Lollt in tltis heat'mg nwl tho pre.viuus one, aud Ihutve Voualurled t:hat it, is generwlly nscnm.' Insofar as this is roncerned, ILatl t6c Anloricnn pnblic, are. suckers for ptnpagnnda. :1n1 I correct. Al Ik:d. at;sumpf ion? I)r.'1'uantv. I. dn nnt kun\v tc6rtlLer you are uot. T would say that I kr. A n te ric:m pn bl ic. ia rrspousi \e 1 o ad vert i stng i y''s- A[r. linnenn of'1'exas. I/nclor, I Itave 6en.t'd Ililler erilieired aud (iorLbels :utd Mussolini, the Colnlmnlists :unl evcrybndy rlse fnr pnt- lia{; ont, propagamla, w6td, they call pt'opagnnda. Now, tho testimony tLat ]Ins conte Ixiforo this colnutilAeo would cmt- vince rno tLat tlle people, mnny of the pe.ople in Govnrnment., feel Lkat the Alnetic,:tn peoplo nre being tnken advantage of because i:hey at'e snekers for prop:.gntulai tknt if this infmtnal.ion that is Leing pnt. out. on cigarettes is r1eAopf.ive, as Mr I)ixon s:tid, and Ihe Ameri~:an pnblie fnlls fut II, Ihe.n ILerr is no rnurll)sion rxrrpl.llnd. thrs :u'r. surkrrs fur t,l~un~antla-iq t6rrn? -

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131 cif{:ulr7rrr: LAI1r:I,Rmf1 Anu .4ucral'rININ(J--tn6.5 I Ir.9'ra:ln-. A. niguilir:ud. purl iou of il.. Alr. lt,au:rc uf'1'rx:ro. On ILu uld rrl;uln.r5irn nif!n.rcl(es, tcltir.h is I ha I:ilid I osrd lo smolcr. _ f don'te tiwnkn :m y worr.--II- wmdd covcr 1.6r trltnle niJr o/' 16e regnLrl'sirn, ttonldu't il.?, Itt is I.ho Icin{; sizr ynn :ur" S6o,viul;ILcrc. I)r. 7baurr. II1 tcuulcl acccr rnrfninly it IlIr"cr proporl.iou Ilh:tn i/ dn,.nf tLukiusiznnil~:6 asl.ltin Alr.l:cKwItsof'l'exa4 l"rs,sir. Now,llcxl.or, yonsayllr,ttisuot.lnrp{oeuoug6tosuiLyou? I)r.I'rwn-. 7Itatisright.,stt. ' Th-. licxrx:rzs of'Ieaas. I low Lu'ge NrooLl you hnvn it? 1)r. '1'xaucr \1'h:tl. II wotdd sngl;cslis n. Inbnlinf; Such u5 wa hurr prrnrulrl hrru In Iltis mockup, Lo1L iu trrlus of l.lrce sizo of 1.6r I)-pr otn tctJl :ts Lhe Incal iou. TLeso 1.6rue parlcagrs of cig:trMtes tshiclt 6uce bcou so l;d>tilud c:ury II slulmur,nt on t.he fron6 of Llrre pltcktrgc, "Cau- tiun, ci};arello swokiu); wny ltt. Iinrsrdous Ir, yau 6callll." II. is 1kc. sluue. wordinl, IL:tt is nsod iu thn olLrq and ~itr it, simply a dill'rrcnl. lorad.iuu. 'Co oar utiud Ihis Wonld bn mm'o camsislcut ~rlllt tur :Idcqu:drI wn.rniul!. Afr- ltnurats of'I'rslts. On tln: ,onrlosi(n ou ymu pnrt. 16:dl cil,¢rrlln swok i u); doen eunse. ImcR c.anror? 1)r.Praun'. Ycn,tiir;andolltcrst,rioaticlise:rsrs, t\Ir. Hur,rus of 9'rxati. Now, tclm6 ol6cr srriuuv disrnsrs? Ilr. '1'raon~. I don'L tltink I6rrn i:: nuy qqrnl.lolt hW. 16:d it is rr- ms,ou.i6lo lur o1.6rr I,qpvn nf ranrcr, I,arl irulnrly ~~amcr of 16n ku;tn.. I ~ir coica hox. AI r. IioHlrats uf'I'rxns. 1 cs, tiic. . lh.'Prann~. ('nnwvrof Iht wuulli. 'I'herr:uree nlltrr lucns in mLirli 1 t6inl: - 111 l ' r. i:waats nf Prsns- Notr, lla+lur, rit!ht Iluere if you will vs,.mo mt it. is my uudcrstanding IL:rt Ilte lindimgti of yom: ndvisol'.y rour wi/ lcn wrrr to I ho rlfcrl I Ird I hr inlnrlal iuu ul I.hr clpnrcl.lr wa:; r.uu,in~ 16n Iwtg, cInircn. Now, do I muket'til:wd Ilinl, if you rwokn r.ig:cr~Ilr~ t,nd didu'1irr6ul,.Ihem, Ihid, A~nn an linl,k. lo;;r6r:turcr of IIi(- I:ur{u\ :utd v:nicrr imiilr I lu. munl}r? I)r.'1'rautc. Of course.lon hiu-e It: iuhalr iur it lo gctt cveu iolo.yuur lluynx. 111r. 1Ca:r:ns of'Pr.as. Nut Lcinti :t dcxInl', I tlidn'tr lutotc Ihnt. I)r. 'I'xaon~. I think ILr, pnint. is Ihis, 111r. ]toj,rcrs 7'Inxo is cri- dc.ucc. In inJirule Ih:tl1 tchemvnr Iltr. uturoon lurlnlrntncs of ILo oplxr respiratnry Irurl, nre exposrJ lo c.ir+urr(la muolciul; otot lonp; ptriod+ of I imr, l luro is tlanl*rr of r:nlrer. AIr.lluorata uf 7bsas. Inb:ccro ils+lf? In Ilud; breauno nl' Lhr. uic.oliun nud Inr in Ihr I)r. 9'raucs.'I'hr.rr ia no cridruro I:, iudiradr. 16at . Ihr. wt)Iliiu lo ilo 16111 Ilu' Icrnclnrl.inn nl' uiroliuv Lu, ~ 111r. I:uarat. uf 'I'r~:ls. I.rCu sn,y Snwn uf Ilu' (.ompnnrnl porls or Ihr Iuttnrrn ilni. lf. O. 6W) I) r.' 1'r:mrr. 1'Aw, si r. AIr.It,wl.n. ul"11e1c;. Nc,tc,tvcn11~I11IIlPN1111N1IIIIIIf,+ltnirur.nfri;;:u O co nwul \t iI li pipo smoko or rlct.,ciu ~v lo6ar,n'! Ilr. 'Ita¢r-'ILrro. iW a slip!Lllv IibL,r iuridk.urr of r:nir,r of llu N W II1~" ~niJ nf 16o iuImth nuna~/' I,ipa :ui0 I L-iu.yiinL, y-, Ihnii ntn.ni. uI ui . rlunlncl°rbl L.tnbaIhG dSn ,urtr:trrlSItir--1961, I:l5 cumlars, bnl, it ifi nut nnyiltiug likn 16ce ass~xiol.iun of clmct'r of lltr Iwl); ,cil It rit!:nrllr.swokiu~,!. . Alr. 12cMUas of'11sas. lhd uow 1'uu :Ir(- not ndt'ocalim", Iho I:dKding af rihtcrs or piprs. I)r. '1emm'. No, Sir; I IItink Ilco cvidrurc0 wn Lnvc of I.hc. L;trntfnl henll.h o.llcrls nl'r. Irss si{-~nillranl compmrd li, iiRu.rcIlnti no llml. I ,cauld nul. rrruconunil zlbl, u L6in;f nt Ihis Iilnr. Alr. ILxuacti of''e.x:rs. Afr. 1)ixon Iold mr, lutd this is Iho first iiuw I Itltdvc-c.r y;olten :rny kind uf :w wtstcrr to I.his qucstiou LL:tt wos uc:u sntisfaclol:y, Ihnl:l.hc rcason t.ltr.1' tccrcn't junrpinl; on cigru's nud I,ipo lolbn.nco u.n,l cltcwin;{ toharro .,ns hrr:nrsc. 1Lcy didn't. 6at'o t6n rncort of urt advisor;y coruunitArn ou this so6jtrtmatler. Now, thnt, is (h[+ lirst liuw I launm I.6att an :Idcisor;y tommillrvs wns rnuuiul; this Uov_ ernmcut., lhx+ton I Ihnmglrt au udtisor.l' couuuil.lcc .vas tiuftpusrd lo ;,.ire adcice, or trL:dccrr Iht~y fonnd lu 6o n fact in their mrn opinion. Now ho took Ilue posilion tbnl. Lrrmrsrt ltn did Lnvo lLis advisory comnril.lrc opiuinu, Ihat il, .cas alwo"t, ineorohrnt. upou Lim Iu tnoco out inln 16r :trc:t 1ha1. lre 6:ts uwicflnkeu tu wove inln. I)r.'1'tnnr. 1icuold eall lo ymn atlentiou (ltat. tny ndvisory eommit- tct, report. tcns uot. trvlriclt'd lo rif,r;urlles, uot was It reslrinltsl lo acn- rrr of Ilcn LInR. '['lin titlc+ is "tiruukinn ~utd ilollt1y" and iltook np :tll :tslia+ls of smolting autl ILCm11.6. nfr. Iliw:rlts of'rrxus. '1'hru Alr. Ui\ou romrld use L.6nL :IdrisnrY rr- porl.lo mquirn InLrlinfi of ri .ar~an~l pilm IoLucru,cutd~ln~l In't Ih.'raoos. I tcnnlil c:ry I1wt----- AI r. linmaw of'Poxns. I f 1.6ntis ull be trttnirrs. 1)r. 7'rantr. 1mou4l sity 1.6u116nra is vlwc.ilirv informtdiuu on Ihr aubjc.dt in I he advisuty c.numtila rr's report.. klr. Ttoar:ns of '1'rs:rs.To saY t.lu1J: Ilto. smnking of cigars or pipev fmd ulso chc~inl, lobaccn r,wso c:ulrr,r't Ilr. 'Ir:mtv. '1hrrc icns a. higher incidrmr. uf canrrr of Ihu Ilp ulld uronl.lt Ilnwu" Iltns,- iu 16c slodirti rcpurlyd. Alr. ItoMn:ua ul'I'rc:m. 9'hi4 is rer;y lulerrsl.in^, I tutlor, Irnl. k'I. uln n4 you uuo ol Ilrr Ihiul,, nud 1 will ronlinn it I> this and conehldr. A6onlw ltrart tlisensn, Ihrlr L:,.w bten it Iol of talk alrout cig:u'etle.S rausing Lr:rrt disrztso. AF a medienl dtHI0r, At'ould ,you toll mo how 16e cig:t- rMda3 cuusaq ILo hcurt din-otr.sc9 1)r. 'Prmn'. As It rnodic.nl d,x;lor, I 19L'` 1,11 vnli tllls. As a IIInItCr nf L,cl., 7 ran'L I rll ymr posil irely Ihal, it. dtns or prsil ictIY I h:tl. it drns not,. 111r. ltooraw uf '1°txa,c. 1)on'I. yon pnl. a pannpLlrt oul clmcn Ihrm I li:tt tia ys it docs? Ur. 'I'xanty- No, sir, in, do nul: sty ILat.l. it. runsvs il.. 1l'n pnint onf. 16c,ru is nt muoli IQLc.r iunideucr, of hrnrfm dlst'nsn :unum o.ipr;tmlln swol(ors Its ronqm.red lo uousotolcnrs. Tfr. Kteucsts of 'I'exas. R°Ity is tLrrn nA ulucL higher inci,lcnrr.? Whnf. ii~ II. I Iml 16o rit;:n'rl.lru tl~,! I)r.'I'rmn. '1'6ir, Af r. ICulrrrs, ir: ane of I6r rr'n::ons ten ranl inm lu Ilo rimc:n'~Ic. \Ye nrre ullcwlding lo liwl tlln :uts,ecr lo tllis yur:dion. Wre dn nnl. luto,e il.lodny- We I:uotc ri'rlaiu aspcrlti ol tltr i'Ifrri:+ol' Smnk iulr nn I lio l.lnn,l crssrl~, Iml I dim'I, 16inlc I liul. Acn lu,cr au rs Idnmd ion. Illr !'ouii u. 1YuII..uuin Il,wi vl, 1.1 I'inn~lu...li~~ii ~

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2 1 CIl1AItlsl'TP: I,AIIMLINI: .lNll anMnafl'Iti1NC7-1116f1 'Phiv is not, nly ildrul~iuu, n.nl I I 16ink ne such strained interprolnl iou c.an fnirly bo lul. ulnut Ihe bill LLuI. I have inl,rodnccd bttinuso 16is Avunld ebviously bc nmvurlcrLlr_ I 6nve un iutnrest iu prohiLil.ing Ulo sale of IoLacco. I lhittlt we 11'nrnr/l our If:csou in tlto 1J`3ds ntn( the 1930's iu altelnpting to nulJotw tLo enle of nlanltolio Lovorltgos. I t.ltink people ere enlil.led to smulto it Ihey Ill t.n. The Ouust.itlli.ion gnaranlrrs its nll Lhesr. 1;1'1ntt frcrdonls including illo ftrorduln to nLnso unt Lrsllll Intd Inatltee fnuls of nutsolvrs if tro Iv;nd, In, nnd 1 dn unl inlrud la /lcllrit'm mople of I hc~m grtnt. frrrllnms. ISut I nm ~,rrca.lly ronrrrtlrll nl/ntd. L~le muludiul; draJll 1:11os frnnt 111o nso of tolitucc produrt~, Ililrt.iculn.rly cligatnl.tos, I ivill not Inlto tllo Iinlo lu go uvnr Lhr, sluti5l irs (hnt htivo bcon givon by uty, ffriend from NuFV York, MI'. Fiun, bu(. I o'rudl iu a,5,~txinte tnyrwlf a'i1.L Lhe ronuu'Itv Illnl. lm Il:ls nlnllo. My p:n'Iie.olnt awnorn is nnt n'il6 adults Irecn.u~o Ihis is u llu.6il. Ihutt is Imrd to hrenk. I do nntt tllittlc we ntre going ln nmlte Llo nlnell ciLnha in Lllo older qrnern6iens, Iho prnplr, th:d. hnvn asinblisllod fLis llnhil.. 'I'Ito doekors Irnvn fonnd ILnIit is eslrr.lunly dillicldt In Itrrltlt 1.6is, nrnu tvilit Ihn Lastt psycllinlril; nntf srictltilic knolrlr.di;r tLnt wn Ilncr. I Snl, I um ruuoa'ncll n6nu1. I ho. youn' lleopln, 6hn ramlini; prunlal.ionh. I tltink ln6nliu;,'--'J Illiolt I;icinrc Illn Fnod amd I/rul, ~\Ilulinislrx- t ion some pon'cr in net in Ihls liald tnig6t do soluet,lling nLout, it. I:Inl sntislied I'rum rvrlyltlintL I Intvo roall Ihnt. Ille amufnl den.th rnlr in tllis conntry trltirlL tc/l rnn fnirly nl.tri6uln to suwltint; is 111(I,tlll(1 n cc:n'. 7'lLiq is :t jlitCll litlnn. 11 is nmrr. Illau llle livcs 111111, tcrtr, lusls iutlron.lnmLutn6iuR~nflliru:;Lima. AntlwLilettllthofuctsnronot.in, Avhile all l.ho facts are linlin nn dru;,'s, /tll IILO fncla are nnl. iu ou spavo Lrncel, nll Lhc fncis :rn; nnlin ml 1110 Lnv nf {!rnvity--Lhr.ro is a lnt, wo IIC(11t tU llll(lrv 111 ltlnny fiPltl5-PllOllj[ll facts IIl'O 111 (n Rntlsf,V in(; as IL aitiaen Inld es n 711outin'r nf (Inngrntiti ILat there is tt correlation Ixl.ivrai 'Innlcinp,r nnd do:dlt aud illnttis of Illo Itinds Ihnt have Lor,n doscribetl bcl'oro Llle coutlnil.lrc. :1m1 se 1 say lhat this is n rc.r,1' vnrious lrobinln illnt tlosotvrs the atlrnl.ion of the (;ont;rraH. I uw plonnwl tilnt the CotnntiWre is cou- sillorini; Iri;islnt:ion te dcal tvifh it. 1 would ouly tnn.lrc onr. frn'Lllrr rrtplrvl.s, 6fr. CLairnmn, lusucc linln. Ahout 18 fnontlls ngu 1 ditl 11 n(neslolJqr for trly annslituonts on Illis ;ntLjrct in which I nspressrd Ly Illnug}hls in maa'e detltil, end I would aslt IL:1.1. this be mntln :t pnrt of Ihe 111n nr llte recot-il in the llluu'ing:+. 'I'ho Cu/mtnfnx. Lr,t, ik bo inr.lutlnd in IAn. record along wit,6 your sl:detnr.nt.. ('Ille nowslrtler rnfr.rrrd to fnllnws:) (111NI:I11:ati.VAN'& 6Pll't/lf1' NInltltln It. IIIIAI.1.. til.a'tINI/ trlR'I'lllt"r nN 11119.nN1 Norr:nln:n 1i, 1!Ili:{. Iv'1'rlln tn Ihtnrl':, Wn,vr \Val4.u Ill Iin lmu<? SItPPnse I begml fhlu refwrtb,v ruvcnlhlg a nrcret IllntI tu nnllerndue thc Unitetl Sinlra uud take INn livrn of 10,11,1100 ur uulrr Aulrricmin In Lho Ilrxt 12 munl.nn-- na nlnn.v Ptruons II., were Ic11kW in Illr nluul l/owbiuk uf Ilirrm6ilnn, SlrpUnxr 1 ,,aid Illul. Ihlrv lrna arl'nully n/'un::rrvnih'r estinmtr, IhnlI hl fnnl: Ihc unnlbtr nr fal:ll!lirv rosu!tinF fruul Ih!s rl'iI plnN nrst 3onl' IniCLI rsrrrll n Ilneulrr nf n. ,r'.illir i. r I~~lilIlii-/.d 1 rr I. Ilr, - irr, r'ill,A il, 1.'.III' rll \1', 111 11 ',I CIQAnE1"rf1 I,Af11ildNl! ANII AnVI':nTIvINII- 10fb f1. Ill yml ko vllurkatll iCmll4 yun ivunl. In Itnuw Ill hn11 Ilntrkal lllk Irr- riLlr erhunlc7 1'nl rnulicirnl: you Icnldd. Ilnl. Irl's Nn n Illlkr furt.Nrr Serpplwc 1 laln you Iknt ptrannn 1n Ihe hlNhcet plnrcu kucw nbont Ikis plott hnt lmd dnnc nnlhlnh nlwnt It. SuptanP I nnld Iknt rmluy of yolu' felluw Aulrrirnus werr uet unly Invnre if Ihose fncta bnt were rnlvnl.~Irlplt nrn nrn III IIIe Plut. ~luptul.G' 1 lold Snn Illut, Ilnt ,InNt it few, but In09t of yunr fvllu® Amcdcnnlt Ivrrn nlrrnd3' mvnra of tlliN rvll ticnlgu, nnd f.lley didn't I'rnll3' r:ur. SupiNl.vr I nnItl lhat unttp' af,3'uur nwn urlpklwr;l, onA tx'rltnplr nleuo- 111Ix nf y::nr uwu hnu,rhnlll, tru:dd Ilclp rulllribulo Innrr Ihnn $7 billion ill Lhc xnmr 12.nnmth prlinll ln r:u'r3' Lnl. Ihiu luus:c Inmdrr. 1Cnllltl 3'uo wowlor nUnul. ! hr ~:udl3' nf litv Anlarirml PruPleT In trn/h, l.hcrc In snvn u pl:ul. 11 nuq' nnt lie Lrclnnht1.r11 iu rpcrilir Irl'mc nud rvrlllrn lit Ilisnrpcuring ink otl tdli tinul Icrnpprl''u. Itnt. l'il Irll aau Ildn: furum- Inled nr oul, rnu~cluun nr nut, Ilrli6rl'llll'Ir uut, n pronnuu IH g~dng fi,rwnrd Ilult wlll Lrkc 11NfINN1 ur /nln-r livrv IIdv rnlninN year, nnll ovrry nnrrrrtting year, nnd np In 1.6i1 pulnt uulnaly Ill Iluing mnrh abuut. It. If Nflcnn I(hrnshcktr nnd knlchrll tllr srkcmq !tt rouldn't l/r m,rrr rffrrtlvr. If Anrorbnm Imll krrn knllu- wnxLt,d by tho (I:nmuNdsla, Ikc1' vmJdli t/9trc Icsn. U}' Ikis 111.... tw zurr ynu knnw 1'ul nol Iu1khIN nl.nlt, snutr Surlrt Iriut, Lr tren unlnr plnu or Lkosc lunulirs In Arliugl"u. \'n.. Ihe nlrulnrr+ uf Iln Alnrrirnu Nuzi Im'I}'. I'w Inlichrg nLwd Ibr pllnl bf /ll" AlnlI'Irlllt lub:n'rn InJnniry la lurl Imrrl nuq umrr )'nnnF 1"'ulllr iu =nmhr riRnrrllcr:. In aimulnlr ulnrr nuq mnrn ndnll~ to nnlukr Imrr aull nwrr pnl-0w u d:ly, :rll lu Ihr fnrr ol' 4/uuWiuF Itrilulilir evillvura. nkunlup Ill:d Ikr 1'ud rruull. 'd Lhle mruairt nlrla IQrl Ivill dm r:uar.lllirs In ikc Ncrl.:1 lu Icl yrnrn vscrrllinn Ihc Iu11J nnlllo tl.nik~ Ill nll tho lcnrr: rer hare funRkt sincc 17i6, SVI'nkhlg as a Pnnlul., fls tvrll n;l II Cnngrtssmnn, I might rxprtsu tny renctinll to Ihccc fnrln in rtumc 81101 unlunrr Itx tklc: \Vko nretls enrmlrl. Icken wc knve friruJn likr Ihr "Nn191wlrn I/1Mi'? lrlll':Itl:'1'lll':Illt'N u11mF1': 'I In }'cmrs IIIINt IMUIIk \1'll(/ v:uupnl{lurJ ng:l!uoit mnoking ct/eld In- rlnssrd rlldlr ns (1) hlmllh fulttllsl., or (1:) nn+iILrr+ of rl'rlnlu religluns gl-oups lvkirll llis- euurnno nmokinC. Nl,nl'.Inrolde lire uoither, ntnl Lkllx n11InmN tu yuuil{1 1Hep1c tn nvnitt the hnlrit 11:rve fnllcu l:u'grly uu Ovnf rnrn. All tWtt In cknu!tlug n'llh tlln arrnnnllal.fon nf nmsnlro aritmliliv I,vidrnrc Iinklng NmnklPk wilk 111ng cnncer, emllhyrutn, tartllorn.uuWar di,wrrvk'I:~ :rnd ulkrr Ill.rnNr.. '1'ho rnlnDnign nF:liunt awnltiug kaa uluvrtl 1'rum Illr plllPll lu I Ilr nlhnrnlary lu ike 1Ldln tlf Oonnre.qn. Lldln bnik nll sann rrtenU3 Pn6nxkrtl fn19.: In 1!N!11 /rollunmpliun Lf rinnrcll/n III fho Illlltr/l Slnlr:t u'Iw 7rA for cartl nlNtlk nl' e6unt tkrce-qlmrltru af n pnek n n'cek. 1t,v 1!Iltl lllis hnJ lurre:mod tu'1,INNI per ndult, nit Nvrr:INC ol' nkultl.'4 Pnrkx a wcek fnr um-rlllirr nllult pnpnlNllnn. Mrdlrul rrslnrckrru un3 ikal, tlurv-fonrlks uf nll Inng I:tnrlr rnsoc nrr rmist'd by rigxrcl.lc smnlting. Auu111K nun wM1o ulnnkc 2 Inlr1;. it dny, nu,rl Ihnn Xr. leill die for rcur}' uonalunltrr trllt. t11tN nf the disr:l.r. Itru111 nllrib- n!nhlc lo lutlg r'nncrt' nntv tntnl ovrs !tn,IN111 n year In Ihr 14dle11 SUdrs. A sl ndy by Itte 11.S. 1'nL1ir llrnll ll Htrvine Inet yrnr r'creNcti a rointionnldp Ilcl.wern anlnkin6 1luring PreFnnury nnl Lku axnrrenen of preentlnrv nlrthxttirlk wrlght Ivmr funntl to vary luvrrwI,v .vI1.L the nnwunt of mwukluN Ilnnc by t6e nlolbcr thrring Prl'Fltaucy. klure clnrUlnK rclntinn,,hiVl nnch ns im 61el 6rrnlLleg tlillitnlt!tre mtd ulltrr nllnnnunlflics, lire lilaly In nLnn' lIP ill :fu I nro >d ulltr.l. '1ho .cntnc I1.S. 1'ttbllc llrnllh Sorvlec r/pnrln tllnt Ihl drnik r+nc fur rrRUl:u Nmnitrrn lu :i'd prrrt.Id: Krralcr Ihnu fnr naeswrlktrv. AnlnuG Nrrwln+ Ivh.. xnlulcc rrnulrrrly Illo rnlin oN 4nlhu Il+,ul rnnrrr Iv nPPI'nsltnnlri)' 111 1 icnrv Iknl. nf ulnnnwulttn'n. 1'he Snq;rlm litnrrnl uf Illc II.S. :\ir 11'urre nnln lnnl i'rnr Ihrrc 1, nn orlr- inrrrau!ng link Lrtlvecu rlpnralll, wulaltlug nnd cnncrr, lulnnlquv)' Illslvcsvs, cnrdiavnsrulnr IIINrrlse, 1II'. Itrt'nlltll Of IIII`An fN'1N 11t nuuuunrrtI 1' e Air Ill en Inugrt tvlll lerrtnit rlghrtUn runlimnleu tn Innkt frrr Ili>rl rikal iuu of tkrir PrlnLlrt9ln Air FurecLlnpllnle nnd IIIRItt Innrhrn. A stndy pnhlisllrvl Ly Ihr Srirnfplc Antrrlrnu Inilt yrnr rrvrnlutl thnt nnl. .Ir !1,31t1 11tnlLn lunnn!; rlFnrmto smolcrru frlltd by u'r'/nnry nrtcry /lisln.vr, +/nly 1;17:l trnald k:lvo dlell llmi Illol~ Ill uull~mllkrr.. 'Pllllt Iurlud tllnt . - '1,.,~ III I ~II ' f n ilr"rlllill I)11. . r~ll~ ~! '1111'ilrlll:11,1/ I,1

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I3fi t1rnItK1°rr; L.vnsI.INH ANU ;Urn:Irrl%LNU-._InfiS Alr. (lalrrl':n. Tsu'1. il. Irut, I)r.'1'erry, tLnt, auuoul; t.hosn who Innr nwul<ril nntl Iltrn lulru alulrprd suwlcingIhnt Ihrrn i. Irs iucidenre ul' Ilrnrt tlisenso Ihnn Lllrrr, is nmoul; oven numlook(rs? . I h.'1'rlaci'. Ilt ILe pnrl icldnr slwlirs cn.rried oul, I believe lhnl. 16r group shulced it slig hl ly lcss iucideucr i.)'rs, siri hTr. UAlrru:n. I lundo you un(-utnltt for Ihul, sir? 1)r.'Plaocr. I cmrt nccounl. for it, 11r. ('arlrr. I lrould Iiko tu lLrnr sumeLody's eapl:wN I ion fnr it, brc.ause lae tlon'1: kuow. Mr. CAtrrl:¢. 1'Imt seelns to 6e ;t refo(at iuu of )'nnt 1.6eoty ttntl~ stnnk~ iu(; dues cause Ile;ut disease or wihht rtluse 1LCArt disense, tcolddn'I yuu Ihink? ])r.'Pr:mtt-. I do uolt feel tLal, ilt is auy rcllllafiuu of Ihe 6elief Ih:dt cignrnt IrI stuokiug nmy r:ulse Lrnrk disense. All. (lAnTr;li. Still Il1P lltct of ytlllt' 11\VIl lllvesllgnllfllt retenls 111:11 16ost1 1vLo Ilnve smokrd nud llnvo rlnit smoking _ kave n Irvsor incidenrr uf 1Lenr4 disenw~ tlutu ovon uunsnlokerF, ri};hl, P 1)r. '1'rann-. I hclicvt~--- Dlr. UAlrreat. 791nnkyoa, sir. I)r.'Ilunn-. I lrould like lo loeltecle (kis lcith llr.IIotlt. 'I'Lere nas it slighlly lesse.r incidence? Dr. IIoNre. As I recall tLnlstttdy, t6o di 1Trrenco lvna not. slat.isl.ienlly r'ignilialnt. ]lt olher words, Ihe levcl of hr,lrt disease a.ulonR Ihose w6u siu~rpnd snrolcing nns just, about Ille swne as tllat Itmmnl,; t.llesn lvho Lnt uc.vrr snlolcr(l. nfr. ('Arrr(=.n. I)i(1 you say jnst n6ont 1Lc s:une? \Vns i(. exactly Ihe snule or lcas itkss? Auslcer nl quest.ion ycs or lto. Ilr. Iluev. I:uwl enrry, sir, I.~lis is a slnl.isliolQ qnestiml. Stal-islic:d tlilTrrenrt:~ nrr cil.hrrsigndicnut or not, sir. 111r. (1:yrrtac. (Ict yom ligwes otd, and rond Lllmn, if you wi11, if you ILLYe I.tl('lll. Yoo .rill (lnd t.llnt. amonk t6rw, tcho lnn:e snokecl nnd have qnil. smoking tlle iucitlonce is Itws IIlwt (hclds clnlung t~6ose lvlto» ever amultrd. I. w i I I be Rlad t.o l l ave yon rend yulu fikn rrs un th n t. Dr. llultrv. Wlliah nylort. is 1.Imt? 'I'lle(LlAUtntAx. Anyfurt.heroftIluDut.6or? Mr. l.uol:uH of Texns. I aw finivLed, LL:udc ynu. '1ho UnentetAN. 111t.1'omlger? 1111. Yotrxorn. '1'luulll: you, Mt. CFlaicnlun. I Lhink LIw rparrd, I)r. Iforu, s6oldd Lo:L lilllr, clenmr on yoor ground. You u ro uot a ulcd icnl dor,tur? Dr. ITonx. No, gir. I(lid uly toulrrt;rndunle work in tnnthemn.lirs, cnld I took tny I'It. Dn in psychology. Mr. YouNne¢. )VLere? Ilr. I lorzrz. At. 1Tnrvard Uuiversity. i1fr. YouHamrz. At.71:nvn.rd? Ilr. Ilultx. Yes, sir. Dr. '1'raucr. Mr. Yonngrr, I tLink tlndI)r. Tlmht, in order to snlr stn.ntinte his ptsilion :Ind training, sLouhl give further details of lus (xperirlce sincu {{ellink his drt;m,e :nul Llrnnll;kotlt. his professiuunl lifo. T)r. Tlwtsr. Well, tiir, T Luve. 6ern en;,+ufrrd in rca^trrll lurt;cly in ILu }heullh lildd for Ihe INlst 35 I trner rnY /irsl. Irrl.lur. on puLlict upininnuu/1Ln.h1IlunIt,nsnnilnarn,1l"rnlll4nr,lnliu1111') Ilint'~ r ANU AnvGlcrIKINr---ISrL 137 rn;Alnrrrt: I,nnhl,lrv Lrt.n un LLe. lircldly ot. Yn.le auld al. I'riurel.uu ns well. I snrcrd in IILe Nnvy us ao nvintltm ysyc.holut;ist dminq Ihe tcnl, as n rudrl. utlvisut:Y ollirer ;uol nn rdnrat iunnl rrsrnrclt ollirrr. I trorked for Ille Air Fortn ill Lllo ~nyc6uloriral slady of nirrraf6 orridrnts ill l:l1B nnd publis6td n nlrul ier uf po.lnrs ill llntl. Ilrld 1'6ir11 lvrrt Ltlrr Lnrned in .rilll ntl- miuislralicu rrrulnl.ioua fnr I.Le Lsndllu,[ of arridouls bul.ll ill Ihis rulnllry :Ind ill I'orrign ruanlrirti. 1 Lnvn hrru vmrcl~wl in rancrr rr~r:nrh, rnnrrr cuulrnl rc~tnrrll, und Idlo e.pldtwiuilR1' nf rnurer mul Inhnvito'al problrnls rvlntrd lo rnucrr sinrv. Iali, llllcn 1 lcns rlnplovrd hy 16e :1lnrrirnn l'.nu~rr Ra:iel.y. I ln(6 Ikt, Aulrrirnn (`~antrr Kuciety in 1!IG`3 nnd rnnle 10 ~corlc for I6e Pnbl icI fcalt h 5ortice. Afr. 1'tn~nlolel:. In yutn resr:lrrh on rnnrcr, dn I undrrslnnd Illnl, il. tI.N1.11UL I111Ce allt'I Illlll~ 111 (Io P'III1 16r ulrtlirll nwl:r.Is of il ? Yon wt1 lcurl:iny, un sl nlist ws? . 1)r. IIuuN. I lcati tcurltinR nn hrlinciural pr,,Mrws ut 16r lirld of rltucrr ttud ou I Le sltd isl icnl nuuly~iv ~ ~f ~Inl a. I lctls oue uf I llr anl Lul:~ nf Illr. Ilnnuuontl nud llorn 51ud\~ ill Mlicll I)r.'I'rrry rrfrlrrd cnrlilr. I1. is Lnsirolly :1 luul!-tcrln pruspcriicerpitlrlniulo~.icnl slndy ill lchirll tnu naqnired inforuollJon on Ihre sond:ing habils of `L110,(NNI mru nud follolcerl illrnl for-l )'rnrs, ill ordrr lo drlrrnuno Nl'Imt Iltr rolnl ionwlcip s IN+L~ceru Iheir sloolcinR Im6ils nutl Ihrir sa6srqnrrd nlurlnlil}' e'at s rx ItRt'iellre. A1r. YoliNunla'19mulc yonl. I joslt frll. 1he rrconl slloul(l tlikitlu~r hrur b:tr.kgrnwltl. ~ I1r.11oNN. )'cs,sir. 111t. Yot1NOEIt. I)t. Terry, uu your slldcntrnl, pnl!c li, to pw1sun Ilro snbjrct a litllo furl ker 16:w Lbe rLn i rmnu did, !4e rrrmmnond 111n1 hrstrnd tif n slmcinc alnltdory rrqldrnmtrot tor n slalr- rmnt na In pnrlicnlnr vowDOnoutx of cignrtItt slnnke rrgulninry mdh1n'lly 6l: proeided In iN,riAc u'hirh pnriJcnlar conlhmrnis. Now, llow t':In u luaunfncllnrr of nny prudutI, Ilnl'IIPIIInrll' ~'ll!III'- rllrs, nrrn.u;m f,,r n pru~..ro m a f wnnn forl un, nJ vtrl i:einf;, nnd s,r for16, If he is (~milll± In lie sol+jcrl, In Ille tc6iut~~ of one intlivltlu:ll o6a/lt;in!~ his tnintl nll lllr tiulcE '1'Imt is 16r prolLlonl 16nt Ilislltrbv wt.. Ih.'I'.nclrt'. 1 don'I.Ihink sncll rel±ldnlol~y dre.isious lvuldd he madn by onc individuol hacing vvlLiuls nud thlul}{Inlt his ntind, N r. 1f oonl:rr. Afr. YouNnoac. \Vell, sny n qrelqr tLnt. Lnve 11'hims luld e.Ir:mRe I llrn nlinds. ]lr. 'I'v.luec. 1 tltink thnt snclt it I;mup, tcllrn Riv(vt such lrrslrnnsi- , wotdd act in it responsible nlnnllrr told leould r.h:nlt!e Ihrw rrp!n- lntionv mt1y wltln Ihrre wns n sricuf.ifcc. h:lsiv for tloiu;g so. It4e. Ynulvarat. Yoa nro inelutling hpre Ilml. trorh litnr. 16t_v ``nml go tllrout,rll 1hre proccss ef iLc, re.Rtdntory eldhorily a~iill kbr:um(;. 'Illl? Tsl).lnt.whntynuproposo'? 1)r.1 luu not. sure exnctly llolv it lvotlld bo done, sir. ltfr. Yonxr.l:u. It. doo.sl'tindicttl.e here, yout stalrnnntt dor5n't in- dicnloq othel tllnn il. 11'onld lie 1Le. rrgn3ntory nnlllotitp nn(1 yan lcoald lrc Illc rcl±nin.tnry nnlltnrily, or Iln~. ('ounuissiou, nntl Iltal. licoy Ilad Ikn privilrRe nf chnnl±inl! Iln,ir ordcrs w6enr.ver 16rc lcunirtl In. I ngaiu laisr.lllr tplrsliou nolr, hole onn n nmunlncllurr ldnn tl lonvr:uu of :IJvrrri~iog ;u1J mnuul'artlnr if Lc, is: ill br suLjr~I. In stuor.

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142 ('2CARI;'1'rl? LAItEWNII :1NP APA?;li'I'IvIN(;--In65 1lr.l((nwr.u:As. 11'ell,ilsap::lhnl it 'I'hal.s:lysit.h:lvlml boort prueeu, clursn'I0 it P I h.'I'elan, It:::yy, Ilto. rnusnl reln1inc,6ip hnv nul.lrrru Itrurru, qr-. 11Ir. KnltNf:u.tY. ]'es. I/r. Tr:ron'. Rldou the olher hnud il. :rlsn poinls olrtIhe Gcrl tL:u ILu slrong reluliuushill, in ILv, iulerprt'lul iuu uf Ihennscionl.irAn, mn` nf aignilirwuro. Alr. ](oltNeaer. 1"uu don'I1 ltnl[ ill Ih:t Iwmpldet the sl.lllemrnt t6nl I reud, du yutl'f Ur. 'I'rlnn'. I(lnn't knutv ichrlLer ilt is Illere or nul, All-. Kureegac. Afr.('.tlt'rr:k. AVilllhnp;eul.letnwlsield fornquvaliun? Mr. 1:nItN ratty. I teill be delip;Lted lo yieltl. Alr. ('Alrrett. A;;«iu, I)r.'Pnrry, ILe trhule. (tuetition ('.olnes tl]1,11'lly is it Lhal, la'uld(t whu Imro smol:ed :Ind 6an~e qml. h:tvu it lower (luulh rut: Iluut iLo4.t tcLu huyo uoter snlnlmtl et~eu, Ih;tu those ultn hnvo uerrr swukeJ'I I)r.'I'f.lttls. 111uy I nslc I)t.1lnruloamtcerlhal.8 I)r. lluttN. Sir, I Iutcn Itre:Heil Illoarlirle, lu tcllie.61M lreliecuyal llat: refcreuce. '1'llis is Illo r.uluhiuetl t'aperi('ure uf Iltn AIL:my uutl Frun ingllatn slntlies, I believe. . Mr. (Lverrat. Ye~. Ih'. ]foltN. Thaft nhltr:nti iu ILe .lnrtruul uf (lie .1\L\ in l)rreudrrr nf 1961. III lulrln :i untlcr °Furulrr ('iwulplle timul:r:'x^ rvlulicr In `Nm'rr Uign.rrl.lo 5mnlcrrs,» it sny'v Il::lt Ilte D:r perrou6 roolidrurr Iio(ilsun relnliva rislc rtluf;ell frow /I.L tn I:1. :Is up lu lwssibly II. 40-lrerrrut hi;her dealh rnlrv tJlau Iltn4e whn Irn:giteln ult oiR:nrUe vntnl:mnr Ilace <onmwl:ern Itelnrren uue: li I'l lr as rumh ns ulr to 1rmsiLly :t 121 Im.rtrnl. Iri;fit'r dr:126 rnln Ilmu Ihuu(, whu 6sm uevrr Ymol:etl. R'iIL this level of slnt.islie:ll int;l:tbilil)', Sirt I lleliet'e th:lt, tuy I:rrti ranraLastustnud. AltllnnOtlltisdilll'renrntsnobslkl.istirallyslguili rnnl, ilt is uo6lmrcosmnble to e-sl:eclO n l;runp of e.x-sulolmrs 1.o shnv I luoer deal It t':Iin I Imu 1 hose wlto Imll urtrr swnke.d. Ilacina Riren np swokiuR in neldtnee uf r:ulliuient ouurern oit Ir 16rir own 6ea111: sn Ihul uun wi;,III( exfx't:l I.he:aesnme people In Inuinln.iu prullrr dietary IlnLil: ~utd ndrequ:dt'txrrrise, :utd IllrrrLy hntr u Imrer (lenlll ra/e. Alr. (lAlcrElt. I r:ul'L Ilrr'ept. Ihul. nlalonrent.. I didn't. nndrr,lnnd cuw rratliu of it aed IWould lilce lu vee il. I luu uutt ntlro Ihul ILnI is wLut I rnfe.rrrQ It,. Itul Il:r titlrs-rou (lerternl ;tdulilled Llrtl nO stat(ute.ut mas Iruc .c6en 1:tsLr(I Linl bel'nre, nnd f.Lc rvcurtl MAl O6::tc I h:t t. Afr. 7(uaNrrnr. In lL;tt. rnunerl iolu I zvonld re.fe.r hnl lt my r.nllenrn: fruut Kenlno.lcy luld also I)r.'I'rrl,y :mJ 1)r. florn to pntfe.321 of Ihr hetrrio;,n aLintt ice.re Ilcltl liy ILis rtnn(nillrn nn Lhn salrjrnt luvl..,uw'. IILn tnp of tludt paftc is a t'.r:qth ~t-hir}h lt-as inl rotlure:l Intd InIkwl kireul oed, :ts I rer,tll, hor'lcell up by lLe cerlwl lectiuluuy uf Ih. Ilenrt' 1I llrteper, from Slalen Islantl, N.1~. 'I'ho grapll monld inclirltle Illal Ihn prrrrullll*n uf roronnry he;ui diunse in ILucc who Lmd ur~rr smolced is SnmetclLerr-! Ncnldd enlim:de-IwItreen 61/ (0 7 perrenl. and 1Lu5e wLn hnd amulced :md stoppetl is n. little bit owcr 2 pereeul. Nua, 1)r.7'crry, I6eliecn ynu ill yonr sI:tlemenl-.advor:ttod Ihe pl:niuWnf niaolillc:Iml t:lr le('elsnn rit!:n~rlle,~, inlhatri;,rltl? 1)r.'1'rzmtr. 'Iltul ix ri,;Ll,sir. t'Ir,Vncrrbl f.nlq;IJNiI ANA) Auceal'rlstNr I1nis 11:1 Alr. KorNxr..ti. luu :Ire od ::d(I, tk il6 :11r. 1)izuu un 16:11 qlle>:liou I Lrlieru. I In ItAilio:l Illnl. 6e :IiJn'I =(i 16r iuq:urlvtrn nl it, is Ihutl. Iho sldlsltul('e ol' il? \"uu nro I'aulili:nr wi16 6iti te,t'uu:'ny? 1)r. TIann-. 1:un uul. I didu'It lunr ('nmulisninner 1)iznu Irslifp, 6ut. I undersl mIJ tLlrl.l his is wlud. Le slid. i\ll'. 1\1/1tNl'IIAV. IA'( llle 1'('I('1' \'(:11, sir, lo pngc 7( of yout reptni, of Ihn rclrorl16u1, mnn uuulr. lu yun. 'I'he Lc<t Iru';cy;ralrh oln Ihnl Imgu cu.f 5 : I'ho rnpldIty or thr Frurrulluu in uuulu'ir mrbtballtr+ t7:r Irmulls franl rkrv.u{r s1uJk'x urt nWumlx t:ud Ikr lu:r wurlnlily rnllu uf pllip nnd rll;nr hwtiter. trheu rnnquvrd wtlh mw.n:okrrx lutllr:de Ihal Ihc rlrtoulc Inxicll.y nf uleotluc in qNU:lii.ira nLsorbrQ frum Pw4khrl; noJ alkor mtIkutl., nf Lkn[ (r.r L, vrr,c lutr. It DruLnbl)' dorx not rrprvu(nl, tt slgnllir:ud. henll h lvublrm. 'I'Ln.t is in tLc repurt, isrt'1t il? 1)r.'Craurr. 1 t rerl n i u1y is, si r. Mr. KnltweaaY. I)r.'I'erry, ure cnu I':Intilinr wilh I)r. \Filliwtl C. ]Incpcr? I )r.'I'r.lntc. 1-es, tii r. AIr. I(oltNer..tr. .\ud lte is tptilo, ou uul,tnuding, crir'Id.isl, ill 11(ix romll ry, is Irr uul-'f 1 h'. "1'ellon. lce,.irI y1r.K:ntr:ea.ty. Iu f:wl,llel is lhc rtlirell ('hief of th/~ h~ut~irontueulul 1'nnrer Srrliun uf Ilut :\wel'ir:(u /':utrrr Itn+lilu/r, iauY. 1Le? Ih.'I'raay. \aliunnl l':tnrer Inslilnlr; ce~,~ir. J\Ir.Kur~l:r,.t~ I nwnn nnliunal l':Inrer I:uliltde. I h.'I'r:ullr. Yt'n, ,ir. NIr. I(rnt.r.r..tc. aed in IUUS Itr mnsnttnnled, 6y 16n 11'nrL) I I"ullll (h;;unir.:tlinu ur trn. htmureJ by Illr \1'tml:l IhuI1L I lr,±nnir.;:li(~u, fin nela/mdiul; sc.i(nl ilic re~emcll work in 1hr.eaaveswtd runlrtd uf rauvrr diseases, oasn't he'f ' Ih'.'rraurr. I tl:rn'trmne(t(bcr Ilte tlr1ails. I eert:tiuly wnul(lu'I mpoao tri16 il.. !\!I. KuttNUAnY. Yec So fnr :Is yuo kuum, Ihen, 6n did rrroictt I6:d. Lnuar frow Ilm 1Pn111 IIe:tlllt (h'1!nniialioll? Ilr.'Ibaeur. :\n far a:t I Icaotc, Iltal. i~ rirld~ vir. Alr. I(ultNttunc. In 1arl, lie veurlcetl un:ler yull in tll(t 1'n61ir. I lenlllt ticrviro fur a IuurlLrr uf yenlv, isn't. lhaf eorre:'t? I)r'lbaony . Yes, sir. Nlr. 1(nkxl:any. Nom, :tfc yrou familillr Act:' IILe hook Wnlt Le. Llta rero,ul.ly publi56wl eutilled "('llemiaal ( lltlaiuuqeunsis tuul (':uurrc" Ilr Trltus-. 1 Itace ttol- seAn il., Mr. 1(orneRa.y. i1fr. liunrvt<r..tA'. Illsva Yuu heu.rd a6ouls il.? I)r.'1'Iutttr. 1(Iom'I. Itnotv :myllling of ils cnntellls, vir. Illr. K(ntNl;uAr. I nle:m, hatn p mt Itenra af ILn Inlldirnliou ~rf ILe Iviuk? Ilr.'I'I:uln'. I nul Lrtring nf it. uom', sir. Nfl'. Ku1INF:tL1r. )es, .ir.1. utcnu )uu 6ace Lrud nboul, il. Lrlbrn I Icml.ioned i6? I)r. ' Cl:ltl ty. I t L i n lc I 6 n r o. Rlr. KollNr:nAr. Yes, sir. 1)r. 'I'lalntv. ltld. T tLinlc thim is nuinlporlnnt. in tcrms uf-- - Mr. 1(nnNra`,.. You latnW w'hel.lrrr 3 un Leltrtl :thnul, it, dnu't cna?

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121 t'l1i.Ulr:r'rl-0 I,aRL:tenC ~t>I) AUCfiIrrIKINU -IDall rrrn uf (lie hnr:\rilt, nf awukiur tlr ht:11111, 16n1. il, wrndll bt, wrll uol I/1 It:lcl :alrIi :t slnllwoul sprllyd uul io I Ix :a:llutr hrr:nrvn Iltix ontnld rnpliro nddil iollal Ir;;islaliuu il' uuo a i,hlJ lu m,rdify or I,u 1hangl 161 r,lulruxnl. 'I'llorrl'I~rr, il \\'utdlI bl lu}' rrruumunduliun, i\Ir. l'hnir. uiun, III:11Ihl l'onl;mss :u116urizn Ilm ndu:inislt'utizt\ ngrtu,y Iu dl. . tormillr.llirlllt:lil.:Ity rerulnl ilm. 'I'6e('uI utnt.tn. Il/n\' Ih/u rnn rurt rcrmlcln Iht 'xtvilirnt yun Itnt/ Inlc/o 6urc nbu:tl, Iht: iullwrl:u:eu uf ILin aud tclnd, nlluul/l br. rrquirrQ millt }'uur flll'llur sl:dtment. uu pnkc L Ih:ttt iu lium devolulnuluds nli}tLl. juvt.il'.1' n rtvll«mll vv:nviulY ur Ilorhups rvru its omissiun3 Ito you Ihiulc Ilud Ihr, huwun bully is ~niulr Lo cL:tnktt hiolnl;ic.ully spad:- lu~+/ntr Ilu )1xrs Iknl iL \cuuW ool Ir ull'tr1n116y.~;u:ukiul;3 Ih.'I'ratttr. I11r. Chnirnutin, I\ln uol txlxtaf.nuch Itcluul~r. in Ilu,llin- luo'irul npstcm. I I Ihis roltlliliuu uLlnins, il. teill bu us :t nwtd( of Ikl prndnrLinn nf a Ic~s L;lz:vrtluus ril;nrlI l r. I dn nullhinlc in Ihiw rrvport, :\l,r. ('6nirwuu, ILnI tc\. hart:uly rrnsun lu pricn yuu iuty a.nsurance Ikat Iltiv will rrsull. Ou Ilie nllter lutu\I, 1{Irn I, u. Itulw Ilrtl tt'n nll Imw. TLrrn aro :t 1u( uf pnupll, vchu I~cl. Illtaaun: nu( of smokink til;ttrnlles, ;ttul uo \cmdd likt.lu soc Ihem dlricl 11\:li. pltn~turo if Ihcy ~\trn ual-_--... '1'hll ('ttnuiolaN. 1111 you t.lliul: Ih:d, ageno.y or an}' adminisl.raiirr . a,qcue.l should ltuce su/litieuf, bnlnd :ud.6uril,y Lo Inll :ol induvl ry tclla( Ihesn uutst pot ou Iheir Iltbr.l nr iu Ihcir ndvtrl.isenlents$ I )r. ' 1's m t r. 1'c', n i r. '1'6nCnentnt.tN. 11'rll, lll:ll.~hul~la uu, I nmsl s,ly in ull fruulcnl.:.:. I)r.'1'I:exc. I Iltiulc if sur.h an iulru]i;l i.icru In :lu oulmiuislr:lli\r :I;;rnry of Illc (luct.rnmonl, ILn bronll inllnl, I.Itnl. it is Imrfarllc t:diunnl IIlnl.l6nl. ageuo:y could t'c:lwmubl.y :utd rrslrons ibly tnrl;S Ikal utd-I in Inrwti nf w:tlciul; nlhniuislr;lli\e tlrr.isiuils :ts to txarA, lurldiuu. vizenf priul,xud ulhrrnil)a.Is. 'I'ht, Un.+utmAN. I)orAul) keeping in Inind utn' vyslrm af y;utr.rwnrnt \N6i1:6 kns m:uln us .vur6 rt g:rulL nnlinn, nod kmpitnq in mind nl~n Ilm advnnr.rwrnt\c6irll .rl. h:llv\ xrlLir.v1.d iu Lllt+ litId uf Lcmll.ll, I:lul /plill. sw'prisrd th:llt ynn do unt ruux\ brlurr Ihit: aonmtillcc Ittul mnwmrud Ilw (rrnllibiliun of cil;urollo slunl:iul;. 'I'6:t1, is wy lirsl qar.liuu. tirtuuJly tlf trrlxinly /lurs s\upri,c mo. Ikult yull nuqResl. \vro shuuJll Inotn ia :t dirtrlinn IcLrrr, qw. (iuvvrnuu.utis ;.,uiuk 1o eqy Ier Ilu in tluslt'y of this counlry, °1Po urt+I;nin;,+ lu 4.ll yuu id6>d. I:thrl yan nlu:a IruL uu yoar pruduttt anll tclud, yuu uwst disclus+ tcitlt I'tg:u'd In pnur wxnufartured Itrndoet," T f you Ivro vuF:o Ihul, ILrru is :tul6urily iu the :l'enr,ir_ti lo go so (nr xs tn prr,crilu: rxarll)' llu, t\urllinp," ul Iwnllll t\-arninR, tltnn 11110 i~ a rnl.hcr far-roav.lliu/. nu111urila', uud rrrlniull', iu nly .IuJp;mrlll, il e.un:lil.uto :t raditml cbnneCe in uw' pro/rdnrrs in Ihis cuunlry- t Lllink mtdcr I1Ln citruutxlxnlry I t6ll nul, pm'sue my qursLiouiu~ any fltrl.6cl'. l<fr. ICurmc,? 11f t'. Raaaw uf'Ptvts. 1)r.9bt'rc, pun Ilu brlir.ve iu out' c.unsl it nt inual furw clf kuvrrumlnl,dn yon uol.l lh'-'IS,:r.ur. frrrlniulylln,sil'. Mr. Ror.clca nf Ttxn.ti. Illr t'uu Ltlircn t6;tl. 16t Ir)!ivltdicn INluli uu;!hl.lu Iru Ilrlrp;:llrll lu Illn a:u'inu, lunlnr.ttrs uf (luvrlLturnl.'S UI'.'1't:mte. I Ihink this is a deri~iull for f.lle I/ginlalit~n brnurll lrf our (inctrnmlu6 lu mnkr. I. Ilhink Ihr.re nro tnauy iucluucrs vc6rn it LnflI:Idrv(I ANn Au~~litrrlRfimc---II1c5 1LD wuulll Ilc alrllrnllrialn nnd \ci~l. fn1' Illr. l'uu-'msv lo Ilrlr);':dc rr..Iw11- sitlililir::uf I his vurl lunlIuliuisl.rul irr::~vlulir.. All'. Iilulo:lt. uf 9'txtl::. 1\ill utlw. I)urlor, ILaI, is nul tthltl I uskoil yuu. I n::krll yun if tnu frll.Ihnl.Iht Iotinlnlicc pn\clt:e uf our limmrututnl uuhlJ.lo br 11/Irfnlyd I11 ILr~r ai.rnrirs:uu1/6r. Lurrans. It:.'I'IClucs. I Illinlc Illo ('nnrrl::,; sLu\tlll IlrriJc \cll:lld il \vixllrv tlr Ik4j;:l lu. RII'. f31x:1'.Itx /lf 'ft,xxs. II ltnnn~, Im1. I am notlalking abuul tch:tl(60 (;uul;t'ea+s shuuld dtt.idr. I nskaT )'uu if 1'uu 6clinee Ilml 11tn Itrislal irll lrowe.l'n- -10. nln nle:tl' Ihis ul). l du uul. tcxul. lu f;cl, intu :tn arl±ttlnnat. nLrndi(., Lnl. y'on lunu slltlyd Illat, yuu frll. Ilml. Wu onl,r61. In Rivn lllle Iw\rars In pnn ol' Io Iluo Ierdt.I'tll'I'r:ulo (Lnnnnissinn In Writr ndts nnd rrli, In cmltrul tht+nrliuns af Awtriclm rilizt4us in ILn fnhlre; hn V' Ilr:xhI le x i.) ~ I did,sir: in rvlnlinn lu ri!,.nl'rllr smokiu)!, l:thrlina, nud A1 r. I1PIIbais of 'I'Pxlls. I f Vlltl :I I'1 going I u du I lmt In t.i;~:vtt lt\ snrokr- inRr, taLal. \cutdJ llrrcoal Ihn ('un{!m.s, if Iluc hxd ILn runslituIiumtl tiR6l lu t1u Iltnl In Iltr- lirslimlaurt, frntn txknditlRr 111:t/ 1`oa'e1' la au adnlinixlr:dim, sgruer iu luty lirltl, tc6rllLrr it br aulumnlriles :tgri- rullwr,or ~\~k:tltctr %'uu mir6t.~h:ttr.? 1)I'.'Ibarnr. Alr.ltut'ors,Inlunntr:lll:lhltI,f;tux.alrinl±ILa1. I ILink it iux lognl Ilur"a iun uu \\Ilirll 1 ntul uul IUr. Clu:r.x. nl"1'rxnr:. Iln,9or.lll:tl ir<rNnrlly w6n11:tw rumin!" In. I Il:l\Y\ IxPII :1111:1%OII :11 IIIY flll/111':II Ilflllllisblt 111 Iluir (rrrdlmt lo uiutl iulo Ihtst\ II:ml drei~ium. I\cunlll nnt. bt.,riu /n Ir.ll Ihl wrJil:J prn- fesvinn hu\e lo tirnl. Itnrulauuitt, c:lnr a Suro (on or :In}Ihin_r 1I~u. YI1. I Llno ul.li.rd ILuI 16r /blrlur:+ tr.ul Ilr 6:u1 nn 16rr:ilnury lo aullc Irl~i~- riy±61, inlu 16r Ilnlllirnl Iir.IJ :tnd lu Inllc ;Illmll Iltr drlcgnlinn of lulicn Ilu\\rls lu ndutinivli:llicn xealwi/^: Ilmi nrv nul. :u:z\Irrablr I.n 16n Idrrtnr:Jt nf 16is 1Ilnnlrr, nml I~:ly I Ilal if t\r shunlJ folln\c Ilm/. :ulrivc, if \cr rrrr fulln\cr,l 16a1( allci/~r, il \.rndd 111~Iro~ ~Ilclrnmrnl, Lc 16o ImnIdr, or:t's Abru6:ln: l.iuculu Ind il, "ol' Ilm hrulr6 I1Y 1114, p/nplt,:\n1I fl,r Ihe pruplr;' Iarumm t\11on Yuu go lu 1xIrwilliuy u-nrr rirs Ilmi nrr nol, mspnnsihln dirrrll\' 141 16ost ptol\k, . os arr 160 \Irw- Ixryuf ('onl±lrt4l, ynu :tl't, Ilenlrucinl,. tllr Ixlhit. In'luciplrs of il. 'I'hnt in Ihr. rra~un I asl:ed you (Lltt. qorv(iou m Illte lirst plnet, lloc.- Inr, ll. is I hr.l kinlr Ihn 6 ma.lly tliximbs utr. I)r.'1'emrr. 'I'6trrv lu'rv nt:uty rtFnhllm_t' ` Irtinus, :IZ 1on 'trv utII :tnnrr, whirll urt\ rntritIl rnd by Ihr Frlllr:ll lin\rrttturid. Irltirh nrt Ilrlet.ulyd h) I Ilr llnn;,rvu; In ulx.rnl iup[ ul;rnlitn uf ILr ( iu\/rulnrul.. Slr. Punr:rc of'I'c.a4. tiir. I/r. 7'rancr. ;\rnd I frt1 Iltnlif Ihc ('ungrrw =o wishr,,, Ill:d. (6ic is nol ;1 r:tdilal drlO:n'liirl. frnm 16n1, frnul<lyytiir. Tfr. 12naelta uf 'ftx:ls. I know, 11111. ~v6td. T ant t6inlciug Idrnut1 is cnur Illinklnf,~ nn Ihis. 'I'hxtt is \c6at. 1 am inG.reslti ill Lv\:ulsc. I Iltiulc Iltaltct+ hn.vo )!nl. ln gol, lu IIIt+lltinkiuR of I.hnseI punldt \chn :trc ut Ihl~she tt:!rnr.itv iu urdt.r In hutl0 16o snw'cn of Iltr trnu6lr, :utd if ~I\.:n'o t.6iukiniz tm diIfcrrnl. \rae/IroII1;, I I6inlc wny6u \cn nug61. In 1 :AlllllIi IIII I(II I I ISIII V::II111. II. is uly frrlinY, Il:nl. in snnIe uf Iltn n;;varits Ilrm'nlmen Iluit nrl nul. sl:\Ifrll nr Lrndrd hy In\ry'trr~, Ihorn nu;;lt11 to lm snrnr atlrnti/\n !,ir/n //, p rlnll+P ifl lilllliolllll InAc in :.ntur Of 16r1,.illl:llillI l°.

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1.18 (11fiAItK'1"rR LAIIr:LIN(: AN11 AnV"rafl'IS1NC-19n5 IlnclY rlsu's rhnn"e'? Ite wlly prinl :1 4v6ule Int of m:Nrriul :lod Ihk u fiud t6n1( il. 6nv all Lcrn cllolugrll :nul lcill hnvr lo Im Ihrao-u :ncnc. UI.'1'rmn-. T6ny nre dnin;; ir r4r1;/ dny, AL. ('durirwlul, in frlniinn In rrgula4inry aulll)rily, fur in51nu4m, in Illr Fuutl wtd Ihv}; AdnUnir- Irnli. un. A IrI linukiu of Illo Hiinrl auJ I)ru;,r :ldlniuivtrnlion is hrrt' uw1 hn rlw Irll Yuu Iluu' Illry' du ilt if y~nu wuldd like lu Itumc 16n dclailn. 1111'.]"uonarv. Yrs,I(hinlc6ellli;{IlLrxplrosSlliulselfuulhul. Tlr. R,w,clx. 111r. Yonnf;er, Ihu prurrdw~u for ivsuin=; I'rgnlulinn+ undrr Illn lInzlnrlunv Rnbsinurrs 1.nbolin{;' ,1nt is ~rl fnrlll in Ihnl nrl wlrl ilf is Ihe sluun Irucndnre 010 . is I'nllu4l'rd nntlrr Ihr Rnnd, 1)rn~ nml l!usnlclin Act. The dclails In'e onllinrd in srclion i01(e) of Ille, In tr. Mr.l'unNnr:ll llnl,lclint.nrulhryt nlr. RANKIN. I will Lo rlud lu 1,icr. Ilhrm la yun, sir. 'I'6is is frnnl acrtion 701(0) of the 17oorl, Urn~, nud Cnclurl ic Art. AlU' action for ihe issminre, nmen,lmrnf, ur relWnl r.P any regulnl.lou nn,ler nrrtlan-- snll Ihis,qives several sevliuns of Ihc l~ond, T)rn;{, and Cnsnletin Arf, Lult ns I Indicnled, the ILIZnrdnn" tiu6slnm'ev Labeling Art alsu iu- cludrslllia pnxrdm'o-- shull I,n 6rRln, hy n pminrs:ll nlnde (,A) un Illu SerrrlarSds ou'n initlntive nr (lq LS Prl.it.lou uf w,p IuirreHicd Iwrsuu shu4vinA rensonn6ic Krum4dH Iherefur illyd 44 ilh the SPeI'BIIII;Y. 7IIr 8rP1'Plnl') 811:111 VIIlllikll vnrh prnlui~;ll nwl chnll uRerd nli inlrrr.~lnl hasonK nn uplwretnnil'y lu Inr=4nt ihrir rleVCs tbe.rrnn, urnlly ur iu u-ritiul:. Aa seuu u. pl'nrllrnlrlo Ihrrvrnflrr. Ihr tirrrrlnry uluill h,p n/Jrlr 11.1 upnu surh prupnval wnl nhnll mnkr snrh urJrr pnWlr. PlxcrPt a9 prmHJrd W liarntirnpyL (2), tLC rrtiler siLnll Irrcome 4n'er'tirr tlt snrh timu ns mny lut Hprellirvl Ihrreln. hnt nnf pAur In Ihr dny fo11u4r1ug Ilw 1ncr Juy un 4rhirh nLjrcllou.r nmr hn tllorl nuJrrsurll pnrnl;rnVll. Dt r. 7"uvNalal. '191:11, is till riRlll. 'I'hr favtt is----- Nfl'. R,1Nr.IN. ('onld. I add, Coogt'rn.nuln, Ihclj. I,nrngrnlrlL 2 1!urs nn lo sprrify Iln, asanl snfrhnarllv vll:n'nr'Irrislin of Ihn Adnlinislrnlirr I'I'IMCtllll'U Art. In gunrd ngainsl. nr6ilr:u;v nr 4iIIi4nsirnl nrtiun nn the plu1 uf Illu ticrrvlnry. Afr. l*nUrvuoal. Ilut LLnt dors Iwt follow iu yuw i'rgul:u rulclnol:iug, prnrrdnre uudvr I.lle Adluinisl.rnl ive .\rl. AII. IiANICIN. 'I'llatt is n tplest.inn nn which 1, shnll defer In camu4. Afr. 1%a~Lr:Nnnr.r:N. 5ir, ns ynu Iulo4v, Illn Alllllllllstl'ntlvF 1'rnrrdure Ack Ilas Iwu IYprs nf rldt4mnlcint;, Ilir su-onlled iiufmnuJ rtdrumking under srcJinn 4, which follows 16e oallinee tlu4t Mr. ]t:ulkin l4ns hitrn Itp to Ille pnilt( of Lrnrinf,r. Now, it nlso prnvi/ks, fnr I6ns, ra5rs r,f rulrmnlcing wlrem. Iha ap~ I)lir,iLlo slntlde prnvidrs for n llenring nu Illo mrnrd, Ihr . nnrrdarr 4nw LlLnt SLnll Lr. duun. 'I'6n1. 4rnnlrl Me ruller] fornlnl i'n~rmnkint. Rntll I;cprs of rldruud:iug, nm prnridrd for nnclrr the Tltlznrvluus SnL- sl:mrra La11c1inR :1ct.. Nn4v, srrt inn 701 (e) of ILo Foud ond i)rup! ,1n1d tLat Tfr% ltankin rr- ferrrd to is Ihr furulnl rlllrwaking prnrcdwn, Ihat is In srry, it, is sl:nIrrl Ly n1 prnpo'al, giving nl,prrrllnliIl" fur rouni»r.nt., nnd II4r.n 16e tItlu is issnod, snbjorl to il4r. 1irht of :4dvrr5al~ n.il'erlrrl Prrenns In file nhjrrtinus and it rrqurst, fur henriu{r, stnliut! ILo ,rrnundx for lllr ob~ jrrlions. 'I'hn /iunl derisinn is b:l,cvd un Ihn Irrarll nf the Ileln'iul; nu t'It:Altr:'I"I'Iti 1..1111:IJ%1; .1N11 AllllalfIKINU--IOILS 139 such o6jecfiuu,v, nnd t6nla drrisiuu is snllject to judici.ll rn1'iav in a rm1rL uf :Ipllruls un Iha 6:lsis nf I he hrlu'in~ I'rrnrd. Alr. l~ouNr,r:n. Bnf, ILn tirrrrlary is the oue llnrl mnlces Iho linall dre.isinn. All. I1:I.laEnmK:r:N. l"ra, allllouf±h Ilu 1411s delrt;tdrd t.Lis fuucl.iun in Ihiv n+sl,rrl l0 16e llumnliti,iuurr of Ifaxl nufl 1)ruRs, Alr. 1'umy;rr. I'lllv is sulljprlJ u judir.ial ruv iclr uu I lla rerurd. >\Ir.1'uuNmMt. Ih:mk pon vcry murll. Now, 1)r.'f'rrry,nnool.llcrqnes6iun. tlupnRrNynnsny-- I lur nrl i clllrn ner prllnurll} b, I br Ldlu4elu4 fuur urrnn: ('t) NsPluriut: lorilniqnrv fnr Infurwhlg adequutcly ynong Proplr nud 16cir Irm'hrrs nlruul. Ihc Iron11.111111T9rd:v uf ellf,nvrl lo siwrkh,g. }V1111IIIPt1(tll IInvC yllll I nlcen nitlLin rulu' ulvu 114yr,u'twcut.9 I)1. I InNm.r,c. 1 mu nol ,m'e, sir, 4ehut kinll uf ocl iou ynu we tefcl'- riug lo, 6nt1 r;4u Rivre yuu r:uu4r rs:unples, lu!r6aps. 0.1r. 1"nuNr.r:n. IIu4v Iu:InY prnplr, in yunr lleparlnlrut slnuk4, ri;uu'oljrs? I)r. I IoNnl.ra. 1 L:n-f~. uu 4cnc uf I:nulcinR, sir. AI r. l"nu Ncuat. In nlLr.r oorilS, , y~on Lnt~e dnur nn(Liog V~ il L ~nur oa'n llrpar'Lme.ui, lu lind ont ~chu sutnkes cil;nreItrs tuul lo try In llersuade I hrul nut lo ,wuke Cit(aretles, is ILnl.lrnn? 1)r.Tluwutl.r Nn,ilm.l.isnnt.lrurr hfr. 1'unnm:n. Sl:d o I Ile pro6lrm, 4rlmt yua Ln.vc dune in ennnr4I ion 14ith a.eploriu;S the Irrhuiyues in j'nnr rtrcn Ikpnrlunnl, nnlour com own elnpluyres. I)r.1IuNmr:r. A1'elrnvcrondnclydonrrouctinfnrotuucvnenlplnyrrs, nn rspurilnrnt, i f yan oi11, lvhirll I Lrlie.'c involves snwn 1R/) or lnnrn enq,lqyces, Nho 1ce.re srl.f-Selrrlrll rulunteers in lut allempl, lu linfl ont Luw Vvu re/nld Lull/ ILrin lo tilop smukim,;. We also wurlced lvil-h Ihn ('hilllran~s llurrv4u In spousnriuf,+ n nnjiounl aonfrrnnre uu snmkinfi mnl yuulh niler(e rnr.ll uf Ille SII41rr: srnt, repres.nln.l.ivns. In rSsrure, um nppronrh 4cns l0 4curl: Vrilll 11 en poulh /n I4elp Illem linil nnl Ilon In Inl:ri':rtnuf 1.6rirn4rn Invddrlu. 'I'his rrnullyd in fllc (111illrcu's Itlnrnn iswliur L1eo paLlirnlions. We urn 4ourkinl! 1601 ILr. 51:dr n"onrirs, 1cll.h rdncxlorv, 1cil6 odnrot- lioual nrg:uliznl.ions luul in:+tilulions iu nn nltrnlpt lo liud otd 16o4c 14e raul moro ellectivoly L(lp youlll to uvoid nr In cnld.rul 11m snrolcint? LaLit. wn Itn.vn fiLus, Wn itnvo pnmpLlcl s,1cn 6uve exhibil s. 1V r. YuuNorac. lu ,yum mrn I)epnrl.nlrnt you say ynu Lnvc rnndarlyd :m rdnraticnlnl lnnrr:m~ wiihio vnluolcu llt+p:u'lauonl.? I)r. I InNUl,r,r. Yes, vir. 1Vr11, i1. Acus :w rsprriineul, i f Yon 44'ill. Nlr. 1'oonnr.n. 'PLrisn exprrls 4uny 4V'rll hrt±in »tl holuo. 'Plnd is 4cllrrr I I hinl: You un;,rlll.la he :Ildr 11) ".rt n Iot uf iu furlunl.iou1 rrr waj'hrn uubndY in cour I)rlun'Inuelll wnul<r,nrllnu'I conl:nu4c? ns~:4u~ayun ILr1' du. I lr. I IuNw,ei. I NIr. l"nuNaltlt. 'I'Iwj~ du? I)r.IluNnt.rr. Yea ?tfr. Ynuvmqn. Pwrn nflel nll Illr infol'mnliou Ihnt. Nou have Iu4d Ihr. rrrunltlund:tlinns ihnt. lln.ce Lrrn ma41r, penpin in j'onr 1)rpmimrldl sl lll slmdm.?

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I Itl (11nAlIICPTF: LA7114IdNG 9NIl AUPI?ICrISIN(1-I11n5 In 1963 Lhn Yuhlir, ItenllL Nrrli,vn bo;~;tnl to deri);n 1 lul'pr slndl- uhirh it'I,uht esplorrl ill clcld II Ihe hohnt'iur, all illnlr;,;onl hrliofnof Ihe Amoril;ru prople tulvn.rd cignrrllr.wolcint. 7'he srupe nnd cnulplrs- il.y of Iho studv delaynll6e linld,rork nnlil lale 1!IGI :uld tllr, raw (lnln han junll rt.ceulll' rumu uld ol' IILC rolupldrr. 'Ihn ImrpusoV nl' Ihis sludy lvns lu devnlop infornullinn nu Iho hnsiv. fnelN Inlderlyiut,r sulok inp,n cehnvior. '19m prohleul of rignlello sulolcing is n reln.l.lvelg unlllNr nne iu Illo fie14 or puhlie hrnll-h. I1involvrs 11111113111 reaetion to n hnhit I'orulnrly nccr.plal us hnrlulr>:v, nud ilnw scienti/ielllly delerlninrd as Iln.rnlful. '191iN ch:ulRn fronl hlurmles:; ta Lurnlful has r,realrd a wuubrl nf IIrnblrlnn. tiume pnuple au'/+ unteillin;,r lu arrrpl, Lhis iufar. uml.ion, nml other lind Lhenl:mlvoa uunl/le lu do nuylhin{; ahelli. Iheir nniolcint, hul/i1n Ilrnpil e I heir dr::irr lu Iln au. ln order to develop trn rll'rntiyn 11011101 proy;rn.m Io de.ld .vilh IkiN problem, we felt we needed to Lave n het.ter undersl.a.ndin,t*, of jnst who ialo IeI111Ie lll'e Wlle slloke, \VII\/ thn} snloke, what, tLeir heliefs aLout smo~cing nre, {llut suloking ulr,nns to Lhem, {vLut, t:he aondit.ions are under{Vllich thoy cLn.nl;rd their lmhils or deoidn lo ehnnRe Iheul, wLld iuflnenre(1 Ihair slnrtinl- tn smoke, :Lnd wLat Lhrir experienrvs Lmm heen in Rivin); up smokinf;. In arlditilnl tu qnestions n6outd individuad smolciu;; 6nLuvior; Ihree lvere qursliuns rourerning {rLnt sorls nf Llliurs lleoplrt felt should be dnne- eilhrr by individnnls, by gronps, or hy tllo (inverument. As you Inay recnll, on ,1 muuu;y I I of ILis ,year I preseuled some pre- liminnry resulls of tale study. One of Iha secl.ions of I1LC sludy con- corned pn6lia renN.ion In possible 1-tmledial uction. Tollny I shunlrl liko to rr.fer sprr.ifir.nlly t.1 severn.l quest inns brcnnse of their perl,inrnrr lo Iho subjrc.lt of Illiv Iefrislal.ive Ilo:u-ing. 'I'Ile cnnqllele figrnes fronl t.h is nu l.i ro .ceel ion k ppcu r a s tl,n s l l pend l s lu Lh i s r 6a t emeu l. 77.7 pmrnnl: of Ihe pnople uslcrd nY,rorll {villl I:llee stattelnrnt.: Cigarette staoldng is enour,A uf n hnullh hna:n-d for emncl.ldn[; to Iw dnar :anmt It. 11.5 prrcnnt of tlle people asked disarrcrd .vitll Ille st.ntement Ihnl- Tke r;cacrnl DnLlic knows all it Nr,vls lo kuow nLnut tlle c1Yr.ds of slnoklag an,l henitL. 60.4 perccmt of the people asked disn)reedd with fLe, uegutivrly plu Nsed stntoment: Cigalflie manefnetnrera nhnuld uut 6e reqaireti to put on the antsNle Wakngr a wnnlla/; htbel like, "Cignrette sml,king is dnnKCrons to kenltl." 1Sy the {vny, 02.4 percent, of Lhose asked agreed {vitL thet positive ver- sion of thnl, stnkement. This indicated Llmt no tnntter which wny (lie statnment is preseuted, positively or noqat.ively, the nleaning of 1.6e hlil/llc'n feRl In)! is f11111A1 eleLLY: (~Ig:11'Ct.l e pnl`~ka~es Shtllll(1 f1CM1i' it {\911'll- Ing l Ill)Pl, 'Phn f:umo kintl of rlehnl.ire pln-nsinhr {cns deliherlttely eaupluyed in Ille follo{einf,ratalrmunl,: (liti;nrrl.tee ndvrrllNiaR or calalaeevLdn .hl,ald aul lu rrqaired iu enrry n{varm Iu/; nl.'nonlrnt to thc clircl thnlt vmoklug mup' br Lurulful In hrallh. 1lnre, agaiu, a1 lnl'grv wN.jorily, (iI pcrrout of tho Isnldc aslced, titmv r,ifirllly dis:uri'rcrd Icdh Ih:dt slulrmwd. .1u cco.o I:rr)r,er ptoporllnu, 67.3 pnrvent aytlrrd {citlr Ihr. puailic-r fonu ol' Ihr. que-lion. 'I'his~ iulli~nlr; up;llin Ihnl Iln elfllIor lrhilli ,cav 16~`µl:llrulollt is I111rnPr:l Ilir tI1CAllli'I"1I'1 LA111SI.INf1 AN11 A1C411n'1RINC--1peL 117 pnLlic is in f:tvor of :I. Icarninp; nlnll`.ulcul, iu el~,rulc'.Ilenllverlisin);. 'I'ho culr.rm'.us p!ruiss rrru n11 nngr.r lchrn plr:.ocllyd rril h I Ilr. sd:Il ruloltl : '('il;nrelle. /:ompan.ics r;Louhl be reqoired In pal, nn Ihrt pnrlcnre Ihe nmonnl uf inr ;Ind nir/,linc irn Ihrir ,~i;;nrt`!Irr.^; 7!/.1 pr.rr,ulI uf Ihe Iuulllle asl:rd.:y;reel cvi1L Ihal. slnleworlL. An eren Rrrnlfrr I:uusrusus Iv fowltl iu 1'rr' 1en5o lo Lhe follolrinr slnlmueut: °Tllrrv. ~houlll bo Inuro rducnl.ion ul' I.IIO publicahunl. tlle hraIlh risk aNmecled o'ith s'moluu`,± rigltretlev": !lU:l- perreu6 of Ihe peoplo asked m~revl u'illl Ih:lll nlltle- Inonh In shurt, il. {rollld npIlenr Illnt a~uhslaul.inl mnjorily of Ihe Amrr- irau pnnldl` i;: rrndy :Iml aillinll Irn crl, trornin)r clltlrnlrelti nnd Iha Inl anll nir`.ul m/, roldeett plnrrd un clhmrllo p:ICknRlw an11 enlll.inntuy slnlr- Inl'ols iue.luded in eiRa.rollu ndverl.i~clucels. Dloro Iluln Ihul, Ihr.y sre Nuuh nul.ion u4 lul ulqlropriult nud juvl ilird rrl uirtulonl. 11'o do nol n, Srl, lutu{v all a'n uccd tn I:nn{{ nllout {chntC ilt is iu n. r.igalrl.lo Lhnl1 cans:ec llrntg canoor mly more Ihnn {vn lalmv nll {vln nred le know nhoull rudial.ion iald Ienkemis. lin6 {ve do know Lhnl. avoiJ- n n n of rig:urllrv {eill rodnre 16n ri~:k of hulr" canerr to a tit,rnilicanf LxIrnl.. '1'hn ~:nulo it; Lrno uf rhrnnic bruurlnlh nud (jealh frnnl rur physeur,l. 'I'hn Sauln Ihinh inrrc:ltiiligly nppe:n'N lu ho Irnc for hrrn'1. :InwIcti. '1'hn pn:::::ll,o of Ie;qiShlliun nlnn;,r Illr nbosc-sn{,rFraed lines in lirn Ilf I hn prr.tnl hilln \Pllilhl go :L hlllg ll'fly I/1V;nl'll t11111I1,r111`Ill Illtir Lhe rrc- nnnneutlntions of my Advlsory (;onnnil.lee that npprolninto renlellinl arliou bo Islkrn. It {vonld a.Ivo drulonsl.ralc our oontlnnin;, nntionnl rnncr.rn ove.r Lhis nntalll~,v n.nd inclrnsinglos.s of lives. Nfi. Chl:lirmnn, 1 Lnve onl,y louehed ou Ilw LiRldit!hts nf Ihrse 1'rrv ,'nmplnx prnhlwus. 'I'hn 1)rlmrllurnl'!+ pnsilion un lL1t. !1111I, 11.IP. luii7, nnd Il.lt. 141t is prrerldrll in moru Jctail in Iho Ilrlrlrlmrnl'n I'rllUl'll Ilil I lll'SP h11161/1 I lle PAUn111 il I I`I`. I Irili llu plrnscd to ntlnmpllo:ulsn'rr anv quest.ion or In nlullli fc nnl' puints in tchich I hn rouuuitfrn is pn.rl icul:u~Ip Inl rrrsled. 'I'ha (1uAUtnt.+N. l)oelor, thut. dnen cunelude your stalrnlrnl? 1)r.'1'u:nnr. Il, lloe., Mr. Uha.ilman. 'I'he /",nnulnlnN. 'Phe appendixes nllnchcd lo ynw stalruuvlt mn}' hr, innludnd nl. Lhi:: pnint. in (III: IYlcpl'[l l/l (;(1 n11111~.; {V1LI1 yellr PI:1101111`IIl.. ('Phe nppemlixns rr(ntrnd tn follow:) I:ANCRa f:ONI'14,f I'NnaaAM, IIIV16mN (1V /1111/aNIO IIINItAHMIN, n.8. 1'ual.i0 I14'nvrn Rr.. , u: Itr.MFlbIAI. AI'11UN H'I'A'I'M'.MF:NTB: i'AItT /n+ A NATIONAI. F}r11NY (rN NAIUIUrvII lil111A\Y(Nt ANa .1T'rrrol,U:n t Ily lhnliel Ilnra ned Rrhvyn \Vnini;mw) la (Irluhrr 1!n11, a Indlunnl Prolnlbliily elnd) ,d r+ln`dalul; 1IIIn'i,n', n11iIIIJ,^i, +lad brltrfs rv:ld r,ouAuelr,l nudor 1'ul/li- ILmllll 4r19'in JirlvIfuu nm,mS ndull.x, 71 nall nvlG Ia nLoul. al tiINI lmUSrhn!qu raadumly vvlrrlyd Ia tm inlvrprarlrnliu:; ~imnplP deniSn ivilhin Illl{ prlumrY 'alnPllun, ,uiilu fruw ,eklrh ivrn` Ibvo'n 1'_'I "- ¢,IaYIIX. Pkn Intervie{v Ilself Innlyd fruln nhnol una hnur to aa kuur /uNl n h:llf, dr!xa(1- IaC I11N,a tllc ipI'NON'N NIOOk11NS IIINIUI'J', nad nllInd/(1 IIIInANf Illo (1111FI I~IIIG On aL'IY`I`- ,IlsnKree scrlou nt 4:i slalrrnratu whirll Ikr inrrsllKntnrn kave IaLrirll Ihr rr- uirdlal netluu nlnlelurals^ sintc Lhrp Jrnl ,rilh cilhor FInernl ur nprrifir nrIiuas hlrk laiF6C povsil/ly Ue I nken in Lhe ranhul uf eiSarrttn anwl:inl;.

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.-111 1'l1i.11it:'1"1'b; LAliba.l\11 :1\U ,4DCklI'I'ItiINU---1111ig olgarrllc smukiuF. Nulr Ihal. Lrnrl Jisrn>:n Is mu Nu. 1 klllrr, Inkiug nrunud 1 udllluu Ilvm, a prin'. . url jul:t n I'rw if Ihr fn,-ta Ihnlurr uorunluhlling un Ihu rflbcln ot rlKnrcllu IaunkiuF. q'Imt LrFnn us u pnVUlnr Ikculu for "urld bnll.., knllks, nn(1 roliglorm fnlull icli' /s hrcuudng wrnwl hing muro. An It Ilnl iql /Illl wn Ignol'e fncln like Ihrwc'7 Whrrr Ihl'rr'. Ihie ntnrlr ,vulukr, ihcrr lu hc dumr Ilrr. If tcc tnli I. pW.Ituul,w'rirlrlululYuuglll lukrollit 1'ruul,.prrvllfiuF. ' 111:T'r:M wIllI.l:'I'IIRY'III<YIr11N11 \1'c hrgnu hrvu'lug nhulrt thc luug r:lurrr thrent Nueernl yrm:1 ngu, but wOtll wnn Ihe renrllun nf 16c lulrurrn ruulp:udr.? l1'Ip', Ihry Im'nrd lo Alnlllnmt Avr- nuu. nlvPPrJ uP Ihrlr nllvrrtl,uing onuqmii:n:+nnrl hrKnh N/ nll-uut r0'urt fu Jrpl.l slnukhlg nn sy'nuuyrtluun w'llh virlllly Inul wz npPnnl, nsing Plrf.lurx uf VrlLly g61s ltu rud-hlnmlrvl Alurl'Irllu bup rlnlld puavlhl3' rl'nlxf, f1111I IIIIII/IWnlle IIIIy'n IIIr nlrl rulild puw,ILly Iguorc. Ilrrnnnn nf Ihln lun.nlru uPlxnl lu y'uulh IIIC Aulcrlrlln lhlhllc IledtlLh Ax.4urln- li,m IlrrJhH ulorl Ilum I nllllluu Prr:;rnl. srhuubnge rhlldrrn will Illc af IImF 'uu.rr L,L~r, ILrc rvurh I.ho une ul' 711. Aud IhiH wlya uothiug nbout thr dvnliw Iknl o'lll uumr fruul rigm'Mtc-r:ulyd hlarl IIIMIII%r' IIIIIl Illllg n1I1111911n. Nrv14'ul yrlu'>a ngn tllu AmN9lvut .Imumll nf 191b11c IMnlth relxlrhvl n mqJnr sIndy whirll fuuml Uvlt. uvmnF Iligh vrlviul :.t.udrllis in 1'urllnnld. (1rrg., ,nlly III 1XyY1lrl:/1' LI1/ I1111'3 :11111 :r~ LNI'1'1III. //f LI1/1 gIl'IF gal, la Lhclt nenlrrl yrtll's w'Ilhullt Ilnriug sm:,krd e\prrinll'nlnlip ur ul.hrnvi.r. Amnng Ihr boyn itt u'ns Oiwoverril Illnl. 15 prn'nul trrrr rrgulnr umukrrs iu Ihrlr frr.lnunn Yenr, 25 Iqrront in their anphumnre yrmr, 31 prrrluf {tt Ikrir Jlminr ycur. nud'3;r I/rrccut in thcir erldur yeat. Fignrrn on Ihe girln lret'e suulrwlull. Inwrr but, nvru lur, b,v Llle time Lke,v rrnrM1od Ihcir..vuiur Ycur Yfl ixrccut uf Ille nirln lvere, not orrnxiunN, Gut rrgulnr vmukrrv. I ihld Ihrae Ognres vh(x9dng whrn vietcod In t.hn light of r(rvuL sricn- Itlirerldrnrcon Ihelikrly'rrxnlto[Ihls.mul:InFlrnllrrn. tiiurrr I Iirnl. Iru4c mr INIrm+lA lu ILL: prnLlrm IlLnlllI n qem' agu I hnvr luni Inmdrrda uf IcINra Il-nur nll urrr Ihu rumdry nud n m,r.st Bllcrrallug esrhlulgc uf <vnnxixludunru u'll.h Icudiug IucllIrtll rr.cnPCLnI'v. ilnn is I/r. (Ihnrlra h'.'1'nle, of l.lro Ilnlvurnily uf Alinmi. Ilr.'faln Irlk: Im- thnl hlrrr.lr,rrl tnn.nuqdk,n nr rlgnrcll+:w by rtchimlrhildrru will III:ulY rr.wllt In a Insuuudlruu Inrrenno Inl din- nbihlg rmnLYSrmn lu Lhe Yrnra nhrml. Ilv Vn{nts unt LLnL rhrst nievinlisln unu' hoIirve rmVhyaenqt 1, rnuswl Principnli,v hy slnpklug. And rmplry.4fullt nnw r,niks nv Iho ntruud highcvt cnu:n! of lulnl Pk,pslcnl dLvubllity in thln cnunlry. "nTIInF'.N'fU AIUI '1'Itl'1)IMrvIIUIiNLY LUl'Ah" Tln culirgn ralululs hnn Lwnl InI'hops Ike Nn. 1 I'mgrt uf tllc cigarette OIJItxIrY fur yr:ue. HUldrnllc nrn unlr.llly lltiru0nr'rA to Ihrir first frcve eignralles nR Ihev 1uwPlrln rrFlcirnlinll as trrnhlurn. 'I'hrrr lit Iln rud or Lhe IGre in 17n friendly "cnnlPUn roprc.vculul.iro, uf uumc <it:nrotlu enmDnuy. hnudiug nrrt frre lmrka tn um: uud nll. llc nl.w nLows nP fm nillrr cventn nml irns suDpliea nf freeeignratlen I'ur all Idmin uf cnulPlls affairs. 7'he svhoul uolvspnprr nLva ferls tkc Inlpnrll af tha rimlrc/.l'n {uliusl:rS, whirh Ims ncronnlcJ fnr 7ll hr`rcent af nll rnmVUn nJvm-tin- iuF In rrranl. )'rnrv. 'PhUrc uru nll anrln nf Irl'oumtlelm mnViqved 6Y eignrrI.lr, cnnrylnulos, hnt I think ollr. of ILr lvur."l ia lllc vnnqullgrl whirtr nffcrH proulinnrs to cullogte frnIornil.iea whinc vullevl Alnrlhuru wrnpprn+. 1 nm lold lilnt. Imuly Prnlrrnfllru nsuiFn quulnu lu I.Irrir plrligcu, gt'nenJly frruhmeu nrwly nrrlvr0 frnnl l.he iturortna! uf hrnrlh Ilnll iWlliP. W Ip- nll Lhn /ulphnvis uu cnllllg proplr? 11'rll, (hr rnllrgr snk, dlrrclur uf nuo olKlurl lr riqupuuJ' Vld ilt quita hlnullY ivbrn hr nnl:l :"NlnAwdn nr. hrulrn4 lnm:1" lupnl. If you rnrh Lhrm, Ihrp'II nlirlr lvith yutl likp gluc her(41=r your braud rrmiudx Ihrm uf tilrir lul pPY collrgr d1p's." If Ilml's trllr for a pnrticnhur Lrnnd, hnw mark more Irtm 1.4 11. for nnmking iiwdf? `INY TIII; PACI's AItI:N''1' .11.1. 1N" Alud.knr rrnrlluu uf Ihe IuLucru induarp' hs~ 0rrn tllc fnlmntlau nf n sn- ¢nlled Pohnccn Iudltniry @rsrnrrk ('uuunillir- ostrusibly to del:enuine nud pnh- ll.h fnrtuni mPnrkv nn 1hc hnr.m'd, uf .culokiuF- In fart, tJle Plu'IlnKu hnn Lrou lo uliniudzr Illr luq~lrl:ulrr nf IrGiliuuar xrit'nlilir IinJinKS nml In,pu'.vllon /hc Ilnlh .,f u 16 ., ~I :. ., 1. 11 - .,, 1 . .1 , , . (11GA116:'1"Ili LAIIh:LIN(: SKb :111P1')IYPIRINI7- 1!In5 27 urcu'1I nll hl." LI Ih( n'm'Id of I:.'Irnrl Ihr fnrlx Ilrc nrrrr ldl In; (LJllrn nr 0.4 140, Nrtvlrnr or 1.innlrlu mny tdlinmlclY tHl'Ie11Ce nn tllr+ldi,w:nveiirre nf f1nlIW1 fnuln Lmn up. Ilutrevcr, wc Irllllt mnIIor11 nud Nrwlnn, nud O'r Luill. un nluudc hnwb wlh ItilnYlclli s tLt.rrir.r. 4nrr1Y Ihe rlulval rrlnlluusk1p hrl.wrru ~urnlNug uud luuF+Incrr (or kontt disensr) rrIlnirra m, en:uer ivdrr nr pr,nlf. Ill IrUlll, m9i1'IY :in Imvllrta neioull,<is aFrao Ihnt ihc 1nSr hit, beru tnnlh!. Ilrrn nrr nomr ullnr Inl.rrecUng nrl:mnrnln anvl Ln ruuulrr a;cirntitlc liwlingy: 1. H+qlla whn nl'r gnlnF lu Felt hmF r:ulrar have ml Increnerll desiru Iu ,clmrkv'Lhnrnghaut I krlr mlull. Ilt'rs . 1'hun 11m r411'IVlollun uf hlFh nnrrlnllty uIl.h 1dRL clqu'nllc rnunumPtluu In unl. vlFUtllenut nuA cnu 6r ignnrrd. .1. RuwlanF PrnJu~ru rnurrr nuly In Ille lnngs of IxuPlr wha urc guing lu Frt rnurrr Funlewhrrr nuywu,v, ilnJ nmoklug tdnlPly drtorullnrn It wlll ba lu Lhc luuga hlaLrnd uf, wly', Ihr 1rl't ritl' InLc ur Ihtrd right toe. 3. lalug mlmmr uRrcts PtIVIn wllu wonld hnvo d{rll n[ Inin!rcnlrwln hl furmrr tlulrs'but who hnvc umv Nnrvlved wllh IunFx nnsrtPI1111c lu rtunner. i.'4umlrrrn luhcrlL IhNr dtvlrn in vmuke /lud willl It luhrrlt n nnwmpll- 611118 hr nnmc nllurr nmlicourrr:rl IlGrllt Illntt r:Inne9 Inug rnmrr, G. 1/nnk/1:+ are Iq' Ihclr nnlnrc mmc Ilnblc lu lnnny Jl.w!n.vl'.a, hrclnJing IuuF rnnrrr, Ilnul the "crlf-Prulrrlltr~' nlinurlly af nmismukrry. 6. 4ulnkvrs Irlul Iu driuk Innrr :Ib'idml /ltnn lwllulllnkrru, uud ils (lie Lnuzn. alW nol.I Ilr tululrru, Ih:d-Jua.< Ihcur 111. Rurh rYplamH.luu nrr ludil-ruus, uf rnursr, lnli Ihe3''re undrrsl:uWnble when nuc:.unxidrrs Lhl:: imporlaul. furt: Ilu Ildmern inAnslq' In;t $7 ldlliuu hlduslry: It Irnys $:I bllliuu 111 tnxrv tu vnriona Icv,in uf gnvenuurnl.. It Is rwe n[ Ihe mnlnr nnnrx of ullcrrrtshlq in nll nnvilu. n(IUing he:lvil3 to the ellrnings of Mndiuun \cenur ngruritI:, Iolnvinlnn ncimnrkv, uctvsD:rlu`I'c, nmgaz{nvs, nn/l tkausnuds uf lurnl rmlio nud dch'vlsion rofntlons. We livc lallny Iu a xrel of clgurrtte sdvcrllninF. 'rlll.: rD1Yr¢ nY'rur. nnll n I Inrmv smnclhhlF nlmnl, thr 1"ltrrr uf Ihc laluwen Ilultnr hrl'nnsr I hutl II Iillle rllll-ill wilh It In,t lvihdrl. 111 tn'rnlu I nrnl, uut n qmwdluuunirc iu which I nnkrd r-unnlllvrnln (uuqb, yon worr uur nf'Ihrul) whrlher Ih,-l' I11uul:ht ndvrr- tlsing uf hrcl', tv111r, aml tnbalrn UrllOucta xhotdrl hr cantined In huurx afl,rr chlidrru Flr (o 1r141 (IIY'19 JUIIC Ill 1ingbind). FIfty-nix prrrcul uf nly rrsPnmlculs r<nld, '1'I'u," nml I r.yxll'led tllis fart. 'Phnl'n all 1 did. I dlUli t lnlrudncc n hill nr errn Indirnlr u willingm`cv tu Ilo nu. Itnt ynn NIlouln Ilnre ~ecn I.he Onud of nulil tmd lulgry trltFrnm. uq Illllr qnrstlon Uralumrvi. "ll,lnll, are yuu Imt uf yuur rullnupirkluF lldml?" 1'Lnl:'+ Ilhr lcny utrr 1'ndin nlnn nJllrrc.all tne lu a hut lctlrr. Irur ndvrrllsluF unm ml Illr w:wl .roaa rvcu wrnt an fnt' Ils lu sny, lu prinl, thnt the- r6ildrrn uf Aulerir,l n'/re murc iu nor(1 uf prolrclinu front 1'ongrr,¢emon likl Alurrla R. Ildnll Ihnn Ihry wrre fn.ut thr rffet'IV of UdvCrtluing. 9'o Ire nure u letK in at ulnke w'hrn 11r talk n6nrrL I1o111g snmrlhlug lo rrdnre Ihc h:lz:u'lle nf smolduF. ilum nrvor, n lot lu ut clnke wheu lce I:llk nbnut o'Inrliuii tltn spare rnrc, Ur Iru{IdiuF ulllimissllo rnisuilrs, or DrrrlrinG lulrnrd Nnwo klnJ nf dixtu'mwm!nt. lumgiue wbnt 11'unhl ., Inn lu'J'ucnou nnd 1'huonlx if Ittis counlry nnddruly slopprd bnildinfg urixsiles nr Iunlnlniuing bunlLcr mtd nllavile sQlmdrnnss rl'hr eennundc rlTcet wnnld lu. Irrmrndnu., Lnl. 1 dun't IkWk nuy- unu NrmI1J snggt'st. thut ive nlnlnl:Jn n udlilnr5 mn/'Irinr Jnvt tn Irrch dalFnl'N lluwiug Inln Ihrsu rilirx. 9'he.=amc Is Irne nf lirr Uruvprrity of Ihe tubnrru Iw ri11411'y- I Jnli I. hnrle nuy Ill will Ln- my frirurb+ iu Nurlh'Cnrtr11m1 and 1~Inlurl:y. I lrml. Iluui In hner nil Illr prnyprrily V'ISnlnlr. lint I Jnu'1 u'nnl Ib:'m I'n.btv0,g Ihalil pl'usprrit,r nl. Ihr rxluuao id Illr Amerir':nl prilpb, Inul Iheli iu rh:ll IilrY nrn dninF unlc. 4f u vrnP ":In ho Ilrrisad in InLr oll Ihr hnrln nlll if IIIL:Irrn, Ilud I hupu It enn, I will blr,~ Ihlir rIT:.rlu nl 1NIrnudhlg IbrB' iulhl.<lry, mld IIIr3' /:In run WI tllr rnm:wtic'nrlu IhrY irvnt. Ilnlil Ilud: hnlrPy dny I Iit{nk Ih! Amrrirnu Peul/le hnd hulirr do cnlutIlting :Ihmll thr Inrn:lrr Iu Ikrir uJJst. uVY. .rlno"rn ~frn rrlld rnnml+N lir,~:mcr uf Ikr runl'mune nrruluulnllnu nf .rivn/lltc rridrn.'r In,lir:ding erri,run rffrv'Is fnlul rinarvllr vlunkiu;: I lrun:lrnvl 1cLnt uly 1'rslvqlo-4bllNir~: wiahl br ns n `I.-I..,.d r,.n"'.,... 1 ,I .'I 1 It...,. :~I r:lu nnll lulbiln,

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)tl CIUA7IPPI"rl: i.ARFIIdNN ANn .1nvP)In'ISINtl-1065 ;Afc Rrx= uf 1'tats. Of coursr. I:hutW is your dnoisinn t.hough, not t.bn Supretue Courlin. If Lhis wafller was to get, bnfore Ihe Supreme (burl, I am snre 16ore tvonhl Ln :trgntnents on both sides tts to ,c htI.I lo r ar uolt i t is ill the law. t\Ir.l)txnN. l;twquil.esnre,sir_ 1\Ir. Rwn.acv of 'Iex;ls. Now, Intt us get, donro to that. As 1I tmder- al;llnl, yum order tnts buFed upon 1.he Itropesitien nf aa/alnlly--n'n enn ronliue it lu ItIu tcordn lilr lirrcertllon uf rlereltl.lve nrlce.rli::itutg nl' roltrlvuld,ll inu, iv 1.6:11 rorrerl.l . . \Ir. I IIxuN. '1'hat is corrrel, si r. Alr. IGwtoatn of '1'exa.. In olher trnnls ynu a.re nut.hm'izerl Ln pre- vruluufair prnrlierv or Jereplicr lul,erlising, and, ns I nndernlltntl il-antd I de uul. tcoul le etersiwplif.S il:- vuur rule tees hasrd npen 1ho Itrt"o.nlintl ul' n dwvItlitm rLrire Ihtllwns 6ciu" nvorl ill nrlrorl i,iup;. \Ir. 1)Ixurv. Fnilurelurliti~lo<rsmnrIlliug. \It-. Itoar.o:la of'Pcxns. 1-rs. 11r. I)lanN. Itt tcas uol inl'urninlivr. 11 was IIIP fniI111R, cir, nnnn dis,-lntimr. iAIr. Rrunanti of 'I'rx:ls. .AIL rigLL Now, uf eour.c, n'llnlt tae In'o ;"rlliu;; Ilu.re is x duuLle uepnlice la o crrloin ectnnt. JI r. 1)1 xoN. 'I'Imf is r'ormrt. :11'r. linmcats of 'I'e.xns. So if 1'on nre rhnncol with Ihe aul.hori cwltty tn Il rr . rr.cwlt snnlrLLing, Iltnn vue t.tltn Ihn po.,iliou Ilntt.l~y s.yying INat it fail.; to tliscla.<e Mmtol}hinh, 16,11, tL:tl t;irrsyon Ilto:tulhorily I'o Fpell oml. ahat enn Lo nsrd ov o n nllirnult itn propusition and nol.hing clso can Lr uaed,ist.hokcorrret.? 1\fr. UunN. t)n pu;,m 84 uf unr b:c;is >lud luu'pose yon will see foot- noted Ltnt l,n);ea nl' rst,rs I Ilal 6;1 te hrvn deciderl exncl.ly en Lh'i5 pnint wLere (ho conrlhnP ngrevtl tvit h il. :1fr. It+xn:ns nf'I'rxns. llas aRrnvl wilh rnu Illsl-y'nn Iln h:n-r 16rn ILe nll'u'mal ice pnm.r lo Spell Lltis nul.'! 1AIr.IhznN. Rasednpnnttproprrlindin~nnda4msis. Wnjustdonot Locn ony mlketl pnw-tr. 1Ve hoee gol. I. Imvev n hasis for thn tleeepl.ion. NI r.ltnnraun ol"1'cxos. Yes, I nerlrrslund ILat, l.hat what you are tallc- iu;! :Ihonl. ic 1 Lr. Ltihnn to diccln~r. \I r.111 XnN. '1'Imt is righl., sir. ;Alr. Itten<as of'I'cx:ls. :And I,Ilo.e rnves would indicate Ihatsomethinl; :Jloultl bo disrlosrd. Now ynur puxi6iuu, as I tutdm:st:utd it., is thlttf you presontly havo tho aut.ht,ril;v, aed 1,vant to Rnt thisrloor, Alr.1_)ixon,hecause 1 am inter- r:.lrrl in hotv mnch mtl.lterit,y is be.ing Itssumed here. You have the ;ud.6nril.t~ to clmll out Ilte Iant;uago I6nfI r.an be used or merely what sdlnnld lie porl.ra,ycd by hotglutkc. Afr. Dl.carv. If ilt is nundisclot:ure Ih;rl. ;tJ.lribel.es to t.he tltceptimy Ihon tcc hnve Ilw allirma.t.ive potcer tn require a disclosure. 11fr.ltoaensnf'I'axos. Adisolosmo. Now,do yonhavethepower,do volt <.loiw Llte powor Io ralniro slmrilic hulf;un~eY BL. D i xo N. l~nch ti nte that, we oai l e snn lel.l ung, the cou tt will roviow itt very carefnlly to sco- I1Ir. finm,us of'I'e,xes. No, r:nn uot aslcing yon dhat now, Mr. Dixon. 1 knu,c 1 he r.otutt is going to rr.view il., IutleGS we cleut~ro the separal.lon nf Iwor.rn furnt uf t.oternrnrnf.. I Icun,c wLnf. fhn ronrt. hns p-ot. Ihn 1'111A1tbPl"1'1: L.AItISLIN(t AND AnA'611t'19`;INt1 -1965 57 I~otcrr In dn. 1 aut utikiug.1"uu tthelllrr ur nel.you claiul 1hal' yuu lr.tre Ihe ,wtt'or fo Flrell out I he specilic lunl;ua{;n Lhat aou be ased. ~11'.IhxnN. Yes,stt. \h. Ilonr:ns of Te.xas. :1ud i f:utyono aih'r.rtises a producb and docs not u.so yunr sttcr,ilic Isntp;unge, lhcy wonll l,e in violal.iou, wotdd thoy nol.? AIr.I1t.nN. Wo.vouldpreceednRninst.him,sir. 61 r, llntn'.as of Tcxas. Yolt tt'ould lo'ncrod ngoinst. hitu. Nott-, willt re"lu-rl to Ille cigurrAle IhieR, yolu' pnsilitnt is tLst. Ihis a':Is dnr.epl.ite in not advicing Ilte people Ilntt ttt wos injurion5 Io Ihtnr hcltlth. Mr. IhxnN. Rasicnlly thatt is trnc, sir. Mr. Iluorus of'Poxns. Now, ~t'onld y on follow onl, on this w it h regn rd to Elltles anrl rigars7 virld lu Ihc r.ha.irnutn. 1'Invlnn tuc. 't'in,UnnntntnN. ()1f IlLnrer+,rd. (Ilisrrtcvion nlf 16n rrrul'd.) nlrl lAxntltr; of'Pccns. AIr. 1)iwu, I do tvunt.Ia l;ot Iltis en Ilte reuurtl heran~n I thinlc il, is iwpnrl:tnlt nut: nnly fnr this nnnuuil.Itr. hulI for fu- Luro he.a.t'ings. Dh.lllxnx. I nppreciule lhat. Alr. }ttuatas of 'Cexns. I think yon ttill agrce with mo lhat aillteul,rlt tco umy tlisagreo nbnnt nulhnrily, Ihots Ihera is an issnn here. Nutc, tcMh regnrd to them t nnsl~ion of dev.eption, t.Ills has lo Iln only with t~iaa.rettry, nnd your rn~o h:ts lo dn wil It cif;arettesi does il. tlut4 nlr.l)uux. '1'hetisrurra'I,Sir. 11r. It,wrn,ns of 'I'oxnN. :\ud ns 'I nndl'r"l:md it., ynur rerpliretnrnt ,vould haco 6ren--hnd ynu nut tcorl<e.d ual.l.llis cooPeral.inn ol!reelnont wilit Lhc l1ongrtss-,yonr;.lhretvnent or your requh'owent tronld have larn 1ha1, ilharl to rny 1hnt. it. weldd cause lang e;utrr.r. Afr. IhxoN. \Ye did nutt hnve Ihat, AIr. ('on)!reossmaty in rptotes, hnt. wo wuu111 Inttee arrived atxmuo Iciud of n specific nt)nirement of a nutie<, if we llnd over hnd In pnsecrl. And Ireing as plia6lo as an mr I xlu quilee swrc Ille induslt,y ttnn6l have. been of the frtuue af wimd t o rnepv rn l o rn t het' I l ut n resi Ni.. Lom Lrfnrn now we «onltl Lace nrriverl nM1 on adrqn;Jr trm"ninh. nlr. Ittxnan: of'1'exlts. YeN. . Afr. Ihzt,zv. Surh ns iv heicy; divicesvad in tltese v:n-luus Lills. I Ilatre seen nuuty wnrniufs. Mr. IGwle.tw of'.1'exns. Yos. AI r. 1 hxuN. I:un nul. married 1 o auy eer/.a in language. i1fr. Ittn:raos of 'Pe.x:ts. Let me g,ef, bnelc lo the poiut. thuuf;lt 16:d. mtluve rnt ,oint this uat Ihld 16c lieding of I,h:. counnillee had lo dn tvillt in~talalinn rnfl)er 11Lan Lhn cigmrel.ln il~9nl$- they assunttd Ihn ltre.utise Ih;ll. a t'it;nrrtle ttes 7,ninh lo lle inhaledq dill Ihr) uul.? AIt'. I)Ixo:v. I httvo gnt. to get. insitle Lhcit tuiud lo /iud eul. e'lutt Ihty II&SIIIneAI. I hlltlw \Cltllt. Illey fotmd, ond f kunw the disr.ussiou, nnd I lotoa ILere tvas such discuasion. '1'hero is it dilfereoce,. '1'he. ermage cignr smoker does nol. iuhale nnd nmyhe. Ihe average pipn smoktr tlot~s not, hutl veq' few of thr ncrrora ci;{m~e tlele smulcrt's Gil le iuhule, nlr. Itucrals of 'Cexas. Ilutt let ue qet bach to Ihe derepl it'n prnrLire. lyonld nol.lhe properlnbcling be IhnlIho iuhololirm nf :1 ti;±nrellr hus Lrre /~'rinrd hv /llr tiurr.rnn IlrnrrnI lo Lo drlriluttdaI In IIrn111iF

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:32 CIGARETTE LABELING AND AUVERTISING-196S t Afr. FAnxat.rn'. 1Vnuld you Ihiuk Iliis \conld re.hlr~r ndvert.isinf; or 1 ~ tn rhI tr)r unsnmIdinn,urbnth? 1(r I ) vt ould Ih i nk i t tcuu I d prnbtihl y tr,daco bnt,h. Alr. 1cAUNSCIn-. Redurinq nth'rrlising migld. vround nn innocent ~ L3slnnder. 'I'1)tmlc ynu, sir. 'I'1Lr.(:nnntnrnN. Anyfnrt.herqntslinn.c@ ~ '1'hanl: ynu very mnch, Mr. lldull. 11'r ns~nro ynn Ihnt ynnr prnpusul tcill be kirnn tr,lrefld omtsideamtiun hy Ilio r,nunnitiro. Alt'.11u.\t,r.. 'Phuulc yna, Atn Cltnirnnni. 'Plio Cu,nnnlnrv. 'I'Itn urxl. \til urn, is niu' rallr,tt±nr finut Nurlh C4un- linn, Ihe lluunrnLh, tlllon Lrnnuu. Alr. Lennuu, vvr vvill be glad tn Lenryou alt.his timr. STATEMENT OF HON. ALTON LENNON, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA \Ir. I,reNN-m. Alr. ('6:tirrrnm:nnl tnrmlrrrvuf Ilirrnuuoill/r. I should lihn lo olfrr tn Ihn ronmtilttv' Itcn buwir. rnnrlusious wliirh I helievo ~liuulrl hcrn)d rollinr in Ihr nren nf loh;iern Irnd hrnlt7t. (I1 lu virtt' nf Ihe )ridr-rwtRinl; ,~orinl :utd rronomir inlerestfl in rlurstimis of tohooTn nnd Itealllt, ilshouid be Ihe CnnErens I6trf tleler, tninrx I)oliny nnd nnt n Trder,tl n;;eury. (2) 1'he policies nnd I)rntrrams dolertniurd by C'nngress for so im- pnrlant.n natinnnl r)nest.tnn shnnlrl br npplicahlv. IlunnChout.lLe rouu- Irr lind nol eurnin6errtl nr ftvslrntrd Lln divrrsily nf Inrnl erlinu. ~As tn I-Lo first, Afr. CI)airmmi, ilk clear t6nt this isane relltlrs nnt ntily to Il)n prnhktn of stuoking tuid ltvltlth, bttt 14) 1:he indiviihtal ril.i- zrn's deinrminnlinn wht`Iher nud Lu. nnirh lo stunke- '1'6t` drrisinns in Uiis rnnneclinn are nf viL)1 rnnrnrn io Iltc tnburrn t.rnmers, In Ihn uiill iuns ur urn' ril ireus rnurrrurd in I hr. tmunt fnrttur nnd d isttihul inn nF luharon ItrnilnrIsnid InLol6 Iordrrnl nnd Slnlr rerrnrnrs. l'oup~resv, lintl ('nlntrr" nlonr, shmdd drlrrminr hn)v 16rse impnr- Inut. ualinnnl isvnr, nhnulJ 6r rr!a,lvr,l. \s 1'nrlho.r iufurmnl.iuu tlr- v'olups nlnnn cltnidd drlrrutinr ,vLnl addilional rlumrrs may lir nrtilyd. II, is unl. Ilie, rrslwusibilily nl' :niy ;tdntinislralivov a).rnry nr drparlnteu( of I hr Federal (invorumrul.lo dn cn. T tcns Shorlmd ulirlt less Ihnn a\veck nflrr Ihe t'epnrt of f:lte Surgeu)t (irner:tl's Advism.v (7nnnniltro vcas issnrtl, Ihe. P'rdernl Trnde (lnm- uiissirnt mnved in )cil6 nn nnp)rsedrnlyd setf of prapnscrl trnde rrgtdn- t ion rnles ,vhich )cnrev nnt uuly Prmn:).I nro hnt. pla inly uuutdLurirrd. T any premahn'e Lrennse \vhrn Iltr. Snr"rnn (lenernl srt up the Atlvist)rq ("umutil Iro, ilvvuti clearly underslnrul 16eir rrpnrf, was to Ixt I)h:tcr I iu dctlint; tcilh ILe Inuhleni. 'I'herr. \cas lo lie a phnse TI in )t'hirlt alT ronrrrnrrl )rnald esmuine all o[ 16r qarsl ions iu Iltr ligLl nf It1ee rrporll n ud rnuke Irco)utnrn~lat ious ns fo ,rhall tihoulrl be donr. I h;ne stndirrl Lhc Iegislal.ivn aulhorilv of t6c Federal 'Prado Cntu- rnivsiuu and Iht' :Itlminisir;tl,ive 1'rocednre Art which Congress itt 794G lunvidcd to prevont this vtvy type nf nLnse of stalnlory Iw)ee,r 6y ndiuinislra(ive nprueies. T nln anl-isfie.rl that when this committee ezominos Ihese questions, it alsn nnislo.nnrlude thnt. .\hnl. Ilue ('om- missiun has dnnr. for the fir,L I.iute in Ihe Gn yr:nrc cinrr. it ttns vrv::iletl hv Cour.rr~, is not nullLnrizrd I.v lntc. II i_ :: nc:n'Ixilinn ~tf Il,n (II1:ARL-1'PI; LAnP11JNi: .\\U AnCI!It9'ItIN1I--Ittti ., i;i 1'ho Tetlm'td'Prndo Gnumissiun, l ferl, hna ncled in plaiu cinlnlinu of Ilro fundtnnmtt.nl rules of due f)1'oCn85, fU5 \\'nll Ith H10 1'rltllll'PIIIeitIF of tltn Adminisl.rativo Pro6edure Act. it can hardly Le, dun procers tu trmke ndt»inist.rntive detertninntilms withonlN hnvinF swt):n Irsl imnny. ur ILn nppnrtunity to cruss-rennino \vitn(wstw. ' lu:w, hnnlnmentnl ri{r,lds \cere nul.l)onnred Ix`fure Ilu`. ('unmtimaiun Inst. Itlnrrh. Ilrs )iln thotf, thr l'o)nn,iwinn tnlrl un ttt ils hrarim( tlnt6 ilhn9l:hr po.tatl t t.t t. .+6nrn irrl~l~~u luskotli o inili (( Altlnn~!s~iont) Irv~nrtvlint!, rrlinblr, prnhnlivr, 1,. 403) O. Itt tlid nnlpl'urvetl lu gel Ilml kind n( oci,lrurr. 1 wc.nliun Ihrw f:trls brrausr ILry anrlrr~rorn )ny roint Ihut. ('on- t!rras, :ntd Cungrrss nlunr, s6ould dral \cilh Iltis prultlt'In. Aty scremd courlnsion is plninly Imsrd uu rommonsrn.r. In n. IaoFratn of snrlr \vide runrrrn lu sn vuu)y sr¢mnnts, tt \cntdd tnnltt' ltllln srnu`, nntl rnu/ri6tdc nnlltin{± t'srl1)t r6anlir rnufacinn fur earlt St:tlr Uud rily In tarile its o,cn rulrs nLoul ILr Ia6tliulC nf Lul:secn l~rnilurls. Snrli nrlinn )N nabl rrr:dv att impulsi6lr tilualinu fnr t1)ev prndur.linn nnd dislribnliuu nf rl~,!srrHr~ ami nlbrr Inhnrru 1)rndurlG. 'I'hr ,Ir'Irrtninutiuu" nf ('nu" t'r,s shoulrl prrvuil. '19tis is unt n~ptrvl.ian nf IhrofnnySlnlr.vrll'Fhrnllt:~l(tutr~~lln lni,t iuvude Ihv ri~hls:wd nuthoritt' lrrting Ihe, inlttsl:dr nimrmrnt und snlr uf lunrkrlyd prurlnrls, l'nu- ress hns ,tflen eNt`rrive.d :ndlLnritp lu l,revrnt mtnncrs~arc iutrrslnlr lwrritr~. 'Phrra~trvw:uiyprrredrnl5(nrlltiscirtc. In np' opininu n enntinn Inbrl for Inhnr,u I)rurlurL; 1:: nnt urrrs:trt~. ('rrtainl), Ihn pulo hcall It.:u,d i6o it:+~no ,.~Il Iuudm~iLlydlr~rrrricrlrnn~ ttnl.y Ile 111)tlfirlit6 I LinainC puLliralislJIwiti i),lo iln tlhr tnlmrrrrlrrolltlt nt.~t.~tluLofuhRit Irrislnliro :(,11011 S trill ahu prnritlr 16ai Ihr 1'11I1`v 1t1111 rrqilirrmruls \chi~~h wn}' :r rnurlc,l l, ytLe('nnp res" nrr In prornqd. tIn liiIrl. 'I'6n 1"n:\utntnx. :\re Ihcrr nn} ipirsI.iom1 If uul, tre npprrrinlo ynm~ a pl~rurnuor wul Iost.itunn}'. NI r. I n`uunu. NI r. I e;N Nur.. 'Fhunk ynu, ~I r.l'ha innaut. '1'hr ('n Nntnr+rv. I'Ito urst \vil urr::: is nnl' rollr+l~,!ur (ruw F rnl u~Icf 16o Ilunro:Jde I~rniClt ('Lrtf. Plr. ('hrlf, ,vt, )colrnnu` v~m lu ILc rutnntitlrr. STATEM CONORESS FROM THE STATE OF KENTUCKYTIYE IN AIr. ('In+l.r. Alr. ('hnirutn.n n(ttl tnrwbrrt uf tlw runuuitirr, as t]te 7ioltrr~rnlnlivrt of 16r Fmu'Ih ('nn~rr~~ionn'. 1)islriol uf Krnlnrl:y ahiclt is Ilte sccuud lur'r~t,l. ISurlry Inbttronprndn~int; ~lislrir.l in onr 5lul+`, ilt i;t n rvnl lrlrasnrr In tttrpr:tr l~rfuro. ynn I udu}'. Since tnhttrnu is su cri;y i)upnrlltnl. to tlu' re.ounmi'. arll-I>,'iti~ of Ii;entucky nnd I:lm en6iru Nat.iou, it. is fi(linr nnd prnlrrr Ihal I should reprrsnnt the deep inlerrst of tny cau5(llaents iu tht` mn.iter nf r.tP~n- retlu pnclat~,a Inbcling nn\c brfnrr. }'nqr tinu rrnnwil Irv. 1lmtm-er, unr tlrsirn lu j)rotrrlA lho tobncco inducltry drH`s noll mann Iltnl n'r do nol i h:tcn tm tntnn~, r.unvrrn far ILn p6)'sion ?on1 vtrll6oin~ of 'tll nf as. lndrod, )ro ,crll apprre.ialu 6hu IanJnhlr rllnrl on 16e p:u'I nf Ihr . ..1. i!trn1 6ir.::'~~:rhtlrstn,^.:tfrpannl lhr.lir:tllh ~rf urrilirri~~

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I~I~I t'IUnl11C'1'rP; IAlllzl,l~l; ANn Aul'MIPrIti1Nr---111G6 I)r. '1'rauts. 1:lon'Iwu IvIuIL /litl'rrenro it. m:duvs n'hulher I Imci 6t:u'll nr unl, Rlr. Korur.':ly. Nfr. l:nlthr'Adc. I nlu juet asl:i0," .1'oll u. cinlplH IplPsl.inn, I)octM, if yon 6oro llr:u'd (if ILu Iltnt 16n1I)r. ILut+per llns pltblinllal it bintk, jo~ol.htr trilll I)r. ('.al.en~' lcho is n I'll. 1). nnd trho is fornler srnior r.hrlni.L rnriroulutnlnl e:ulccr sealiou ul' Ihe Nniinunl C:Lnrer lnsl'iltde ill RrJhrsdn, A1J.? I h.'I'uunr. l'<s, Sir. \tr. JCnltn'r.unv. 'I'hn huolc Itnv jn=6 1'nmr, un Illo mnrluL, Ilasn'I il ? I It. 7ltlutr. I Ilrlllt'o vn, 41r. Alr. I~ust:r:wti- IL Icav tr.rlu.iuly publi'lte:l cnltstvpu+nt lo Illo e<ytnrt. lu you fnml I6n til:cr,inl .'1dri~urlt,:nwluiltec, inn't. it t-rnn? I)r.'1'I~autt-. I 1lunlc itt i5l.rua. I donb hare I.Ihe esnct dnle of ptdtli- cutinn, Mr. Koruegay. Yuu 6ncre il.Ihrr<. ill Illn Iwolc and on.u neud il. l)ur Advisory t?ununillec repurl, was releu5ed on .Tnnu:u,y 11, 19ti1. Nlr.l:unulm%r. 1961. \ly infornl;lfiuu is f.llnt. Illiv boolc tcns puLli.heil in Illc I:Il.ler p:lti <tf IllM. Aro you f:nnilinr Nvil.6 16re slnlem<vdl that. Ilr. Ilueper mnde l:rvl. ytnt' t6at Lho ch;u;,rn liml. autol<iu:~ is prorru n prrdninin:uli ennso (1l' Ion;,+ rnnrvr iti "s<iontilirnll)' ml~ound aud siteiolugirully i 1'rlwpunsiblt,'P" I /r. 7Tatln-. Yes, sir. nlr. 1CunNEu.ty. You nro f:nuilinr Irit6 thnl, quolnl.ion? I )r, '1'uutnv. Yes. Bfr. Kulrn iY:.tr. Now, 1rL nlo rrnd you, 1)r.'I'erlq, front 1)r. 1Tnnprr's Loolc nJtaral*nlplt or Io'o. '.I'ho /irst is 1'ound on tho pal,ro endiu~ on ll-J. IL says: Anhuul;n it 6n.a Le<u rlnimod Ly fnrse nud ol.hrr Investlgntors- :utd Ite rnfnra 6oclc lu Uull, llnlulnolnl, aud Ilo1'It Lrrlu, rt nl., l:rn~lurc, 1Cyndrr, et nl., nlll:ou/;n It nnn bren rlnlwed ny Lltese ntul nlh:r Illvoslignntnrn uultnly tnt Ilm bn,eiu oif vlntl.elienl eviArnce that eignratlr ,vmulduR in thw priuelPnl rnm:v of Imtp clu:err ntcuuuUnq fur uP tn tY.r Iwrcenl ut 1:11 Pnlnmunry rnurrrs, nn ub.irrlirr mid .uLrr nunly.ufs uf nll lurornml.lun uu elndeudolo/;g, rllulnp, mld Pltlhalui;y uu Ihls aub,leet xcrornnly upnnlun xurn fnr- rvnaLfut; nllogul.lou. "1'hrtl Iu, Roeti ou In say in ILn Ixu'n;;rnlth ou dmen Ihe Itago: '1'Ln do..lu1nn nn lo wLieL une nC lhe cnrimin cltemiccll cnrcinugens or Lylu'u at enrcluo/:run rnnu:nl.iug iu ILfs dnvrlopmcuL has Plnyed u nnljor ar Inhwr rule Is uL prrsrul n wnllc-r uf wienlf/la dlarusaiuu nnd drlx-u:ln nppnrmttly not unly uu Ih: prufrsv{onnl Wm,vleAge, exVerlauro, nnu Jnllguteut of tlto IIU11v1Utlnl invr.ulll;n- luc' bul, unt iudireclly nlsn on Itis PI'.rsnunl Preferenen ur prcJudicm. 9'hul la lu n:ly, Ilis iuriiunlh.u L: nssess lho aO Lnlc ur uuly part uf the evidence nvnllnLk. Notr, let mn I'rfc,r you lo pnJ.o 6:Ri Ilhrro Dr. llnopr,r ill his bnnk, ill Ihu steelml It:u'uyraplL crys: 11f nnu t':lualcdly brru clrm:mdiJ duriufl llte pnst. ferv yenlv Ilml. Ihe n1loFrd vnun:rtian of InnG rnnrrr from t he inh::lnl.iou of cl~nrcltc nlooking arnald ollie.inll}' I:u rwugniacd Ly f.recin{; Ihrtciunrcltc mnuafnclnrfnR entnPnnice to pincc n Prnqr n'arningnf nneh Itnzardv from elgnrel.fe snmlcfng on tkn pnckn6e nnd lxrbnJw nlxo ou ecuJinp maekiur.. If 1ne csistrure nf nuvu rurn(ntlunu nnd the justllhmlinns er uuek denmud.v nrr r:mrrdrd as n tmd.lrr or nrptnnent, tvonltl Itt nat fullow tknt .iuJU:r wnruingx should ho rrqnirrd for prudnets runlnlnhtg mnuy olitnr g1n- trnltr rurul;niseQ :unl afdn cnry mnrh luurn pnleut rrspirntnry rhrndcul rnr :,inutn'us lo "6irlc ~ uricrru aml rnununnre nre Lrln/; esiro:H:d oflnn on n dnlly Icai~, unJ lo ihc, nulunula ecrevding lu Rrnrrnl Ihoso encounterell trnn clhnrelle =mn4iu~'? ':h.~IIIJ Ihr rull cvmqului~^:. liir i:riunrr. Lo /n..,.tl rnnl tclll: n <'1/::Vth:l"I'I: LAiIDa1N:1 ANfI AUt'P:IL'1'1%INIi-IPIiG 11:/ tc:umiu Innl. Ihr iuhul:d inu :.f anul mm-l:r m:d sacd nnll runl lur fnqtr' ump cnncr enurrr uf In" luun." ! N nn', I)I'. 'I'rrrl, ill rcadinJ; 1 husc. ;tnd poinl inl,r ouI. 10 .)'ou 16 is book rehiclt II nndtrsl:litd Irns jus6 pnLlklled by onr, lsllo is un <winen( ex- In+rlL iu Illo fird/l is lo Iroiut. Iq> IllnlIlnrn is n. Frr:d dral of dillefeu<'1s nnd tliuarrrI tril II I.Im rlpurl, trLi:dl srns ulado tu )'ou and upnn wltich I unt rrM null you Lnsn yunl' opiuions ill 16is umlJ<r, isu'1. Ih:tl. Irnr! Ih'.'Ibaan-. illy upiuious ill this ulalicr nt'o h:wlII ill pnrl upun Illi< rrpnrl., Alr. l:orntgny.. ti(eundly, I 1ronltl Itl:e In =ny IL:II ynu lcn.tr raprv",od Ihtre Iln) tictrpuin6nl' one umn. Ihlrlhnrluorr., dlu'im,; Ihe plriud tr61u Ihix sludy mav lning e:n'riod ulll. Itnll thn rvporl. Ic:tti bling prtInlrrP ub' Ihe Adci.ory Commitl.cl, 160f nttutbers u/ I Itc rommillw nlr.l <ril6 I)r. I lutprr, divrns~rll iu grr:d. drtnil 6in ciltcpuildx on Iho,cnbjo'1, nu:l nrlniul,y 11n11 this iuf:~ruln- Lion lu:nln nrnilnhlr tu tlnIn. I L:lirn nt=:: nl ihnl lilue In lund/, somo nl Ihu. Ilruft:hsJJ<v's uf his 6n:dt ut-nikddr In Ihrln. Uespilo Iltnl, 16& gruuIt uf IU rnlinrlll ~:irulias di:l nol frtI fllnl. Ili, rnnvirlicros ill 16re sulcjer.l acrr nnwu:'iuo tn 16rn1, :nnl Ihis is Irnenf ulillly oI I1rr3, Fir. 11f1. KnuNrzr..tv. IKont nf Ihu=s, nucl 161,t' merr rmiuenl unu, I lun nn/. qunrl'elinl! 1<'ilh Ihv romlu/.ilinn uf Iln tim'reon fieurrul'+l'oluluillrl, hul[ nnno ul 014,111 trrre rtroruizwl tNlurts iu Iht lirld af rnurrr, vrrn tlr.1'! I)r.'I'lann'. I dau~l t Ilinlc ILi~ i~ t rnr, si r. Alr. KurNr:uar. Nunt.of ihrw 6ucl fol'ulyd are.epl'rnr:wI auc' cq.ininu 1:riur lo Ille litno 16ry %rerrnlqurillw.l la Illnl rnwnlillrr ut Ilti. lirlcl, 6nd ILey? ; Ih, 'f'ISmtr. I dou'I. I'lliulc Ihin is rurrr<I. 'I'luIllinw, Ill:tl, Irr :11- /rluplcd In dn tcns to I!el, ruliucnl. srirol i'ls 1014, hnll uol tnl:red intcl IIIf1 IIIIIIti1911 1'llllll'tH'1'I'S)' III I4t1'lll'i1p11P ill this t'o111ni11114. III 11111e1' tlunlti, Ihc, ultllm.nlt nf ILisrululuilitr iu:-lndr.l Inul.lr n'6o 6n:1 uol.l:e rumt, sl.ronrly c~nuuuil.led. prn ur rnu. '\Ir. Kulcrura:.lc. Well, :In)'hndy tcLn Ilor" :un' snL:atnllinl rr,anrrll Y ::u Iltre undlor mnuld 6rrnuln rnnuuil Irll. ~r:nll~hl'I lie I h'. 'I'r:lnts. Nolt nrmssarill .Nl.r. Kulcvl:anr. 1)nrvdl. 111111 fnllotc uv a ltrnl.Irr ul' na.nu 16;d Itr mouhl forw somr cImolusiuns Ilnut t6ut roaonrclL'd I ht'1'na:nl'. I Jtri'slnutlly eould sJtrnd :1, li ht iolr ill ro'ru rcll ou rnu<cr IrilllnldI t~.t'or trritinp; nr issuiog n. anlrulvut un sulul:iu;± nn:l henllh n. rrlaiwl ill 1unt'tv'. Alr. Konrvr:o.ll. Well, nf t'our,e, I Icnnld ronrr:lr 11171 is pocs:ihh. Itr.'I'Im , mn'. Ancl Illrse poc:Jdo. utn: I:rrpnrt:l this rrpccrl :uul ~':u~rieJ nlllI111%M1IIUIy nlN 11I'I:Illllt' /InIltPollItCUI:I:, lunny nl' 16/ul ttilll I'rl;l' I~Leusict r~~prrieuer iu Iltr firld uf r:m<or. Alr, Rnlewl<u.lr. Yuut t-nrnulillra tceul, nbonlIltr mnller ~uwttrhntIikc Ltrn Intc crrs Icentl nboulvt.irrl.iutf a jm'y, didn't.16r1. ? 1 h.'1'ralrr. I 1 hilllc ILis iv rxsrul inlly Irw. 111r. Knr.ll:wtv. 111r linnd 1)ison m:uly linlos vni<l Lrrr dlminJf Iltn raurwp nf his te~limuuy ill hnrlcinp,r up Illr tilu'grou (lrntrnl's 1'uluwil- Iee I.ImIIhn lob:uro inllustl,l' Ilad lln t'rln un ntl)' or 11ll ::f Ih: I:r.qdre tt-lu .:irloc:nlinl~Tcnllhtrcnnulil/r:.

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1`l.8 /9l1AIih'1"I'I: LAItLll.INti .ANU AUt'6:H'PISIN/S-Itlfifi Ih'.'I'r:wtr. I clo uot I:nutv '1'6is is pnur conrlusiou, sir. 1 u~nuld Lrsil atu 14, rcfcr Io Ilte A mrricwc pnld io a,<sur.l:rrn. Afr. ltnrl.uos of'I'rxns. lYoll, lel1 mc trvn nuulller tcortl Ilteu, ei/liur. llr. I'ruus. I ILiulc they nre viclitos rel.y freqneully, sir, in m:un firltlsof adverl:isinl;. Aft. Huuti:tts of Tcxas. 1Vo NIill s:ty tll:tl. a snrlcer cuhudtnily refnsi.In arquaint. 6imsclf wilL the fncJs tmd Ihrrcb}~ 6eruutns n viclint, 6ul n'e, will say I:Lttt n cir.I.iln, for wnut nf nR brl ler ~cord, is mc inmsm1t per son ILntH is telccn in by deceptive prnpn{mncln. TVotilil you ngree. Ivilh i hxt aonclnsion $ Ilr. Tmun. II. was so coniplicaled, 1 iun nul, slu'e 1 ktww whnl Ilm question is, Aft'. Cuogressmn.n. Afr. Rnm.:its ol"I'esns. II was unl. ac; ue:n as romplicalyd as Ilin=r nc;,.atice tplcsl.iuns yon nrc pnl1 in~r to l.hr. pn6lic l)r. 1'r:lutr. OL, 1 i hitrlc il. n'ns fnr ounre cmnplicntrrl. A[r. ltur.c:es uf'1'esos. Dt>rlur, 1 Irnow you are n morc ;tble. mnu In copc witL Iltnb t.Llut srnue of tltn.tir, people wiI1L quna/ians.villt danLh negatives in Lhe,m. ISut Ihry fnct is if, is,yom' pusilion Ihntt insof:n. n.v advetI isiurr is caneerucd, t.lm nse nf Llte nteqwd nf ndvcr6isin{-mirleuds t he publ iq is it not, Doclm 1 1)r.1'rlnu. AdrrrlisinRnt.l.imesmnyntislrndlltepnLlic,Ah'.Rogmrs. Afr. Romats of Tesas. I am lallcim ahnnt, this rifinreJin ndvertisiqg nuw. 7~o1.nslcrepnntLnl ~ Ilr.'ISuaur. Oif!nrelda ndemlicinfi-- AIr.RonimsnfTesns. S'es. Ih.'llauJv (con(ilnting). In Ihe pnsl lt:ls tlireclh' misletl llte puMic; yes, sit'. AO'. Rnoo:tw nf 7'exns. Aud ILe pnblic Iltro icoold Laro bnrnne vic- tintsbncaasenf tnislendin~.vndvm-tisin;. Th.'I'emn-. I tLinlc this iscmrcrt. Afr. Rnnlats of Texae. :1ucl ynn feel like. ILut under tlcese rircmu- sl.rtua's it Lhcu becomes tt gorerumelnul dtdy In movo into t:he nrat nnd plctopacounlrrprnpaeCnndaur:t rnnnlerndretIisinf±cntnp:tign Inulf sr~l.lhis. Ilr.'IS<tnnt illLinl:it.wonld,yes. Afi'. ltnnr:mv nf'1'esns. Actually thalt is danl, you nt'e doing n~itL iLik pro[±rvu ILnt,yon nrn instil nling, is iinot.? ])r.'1'tattn'. We n.re ittfmmulg- llln puLlic. of Ihe heallL 11.w.:n'ds nf smnlcing,uwl rcnnrecloin" n6:tlever tteran luns,wisttLew inyuilliu" i,uml:ing tvlten ILry tcish Io. Afr. Ttnata¢s of'I'es:1s. '1'llnl icvrrY gooil fr,r n ronelnsinn nwl n stnle- menl, bttl il is lilcn Ilte vcnrd "1Ir.eplice." 11'Iten N'nu sl,rrod il md iu nll nF its focels, I herc are n lid, n f nl}ter I hinp,,:s all ncLed to if. Nml, Lotr mo l~,nt inforrnin[,. Lhe public? Aroyun aimph icvnin~ an nllirial cluciunrnt, ur a re. Inq speniling :1. 1411 nf l itne nslcing cluesl ions in .,6i,h ynu urn wt~lctialciu~ lo levl.lho psNcliulrr.ric:tl rear,t.inusof .'1» ter- icnn r.ilizrns in :t lype nf-ynrslion Ili:tt It:ls u donbin negative in il? I Inr:ut n ro yon pnr.,tuu>; Ihtr;n tuel6nds in cloinn i11is? l)r.'1'r,tutt-. 1Ya nlY: pursuing ILn ntelhuds, fur insf.;tnrc, of divlrihn- linn uf /his ndtixnrP tnlnwiller's rrlmrt nn cuwlcing :Ind lte:illFt, bt. prrpnring :uid cli'IrlLUlin:I pnwlililrL. nilV h :u'c 6:tsed upun ILe rnu.m clutiinlis :uul rrrulnu~en~lalinnr: cif Lhis runnuilloiPs ropnrf. "ir. :n'e l9(:Aln'9rFl t,Al1H1.ITIf ~kVU Abvt:ItTltilvtl - 1965 I:?ll in I ltc firlrl, aud in adtl iCion l a 1.6:tt, voe :trn ptnsninr shtdirs Nc6i.11 Iielp tw nndcrsf~md hrH.rr, ns I menl.inoed in luv slalentcul, x9ty pouplu wnnla, vrLV ILey dn nuL sroulay trLal.:u'ce tJleir prnblelm u6en t.ltrv ai~lt In qml. swultin{,~, nud 6otc trn rnn 6elp tllrm if they vrish tn qttit smol:ing. A[r. Rourlts uf ~resns. 'rlteu vn11 t'nll~l,lel' IIIDt. II. IR 1'ntir )ub tutd,rrnm re.~enrrh Irspunsibilili,s In unl. onlN ~ re"enrch frnm Ihn I,Lesir:tl .ilnnLinu ln~~olarcl, hul. In rrrawnIt mrlLnds nf rvlucaling nnd tuelltuils of nch'rrli,in:t nncl utethcnls nf disveutitud.iufl uwteriul 1u tltn Inibli2 in nrJer to P.t In Iltem I1Ln in1'orut:tlion Ilml. yuu flrl lilc(A Illal. )-uu Illinlc I liey un{;Id. 14) Im re.. I/r. Tratrzr. \Ve ltavn Ihis respuntihilil;P :ts a pmt of nnr nwr:trrh aul-horizal.ion as vvell as unr nnl6nriialion for tlro collecLion und ilis- uniinn.l.inu nf infurmnt iuu nu hcmltL. :11r. Ht urnlts of 'I'rs ns. 1)ncl nr, ynu we:t u 16ttt yna frel I hnl. Ynn Im cn Ihn nu111nril.c lu do re:.e:u+h in edurnlicmal utrlhtnls Io tli~sewinnle inforina.l.inn, nr Ihnf, yort oulv linAe re::rnrnh nulhnrit.y iu 111e lield nf pulrlia 114111111 h iuwflu as tLn I,hvsicnl slrac.lwr nr f.lw incolnl 'IrurUur uf thnbr>,ly isr.oneorned. I/r. Ttaem'. I do uol, lulnvr how ti~nn rnn malce ILltl. sharp cli0bnnt i:r tiuu, Att'. Rogers: I runnot, Af.ILe smmetime, I fnel tLnt Nvr 6sce 16n respnnsilhilily nttd Uro nnlLori/;y In do resenrrh tvhicL Vrill hclp usc:u'- wrt ow' in fortuat-innnl mtd ednra(.innnl trsponsibilil.icsi r. liom=.Its nf "1'oxn.s. 1Yotllc[ lltat, 1)ocdor, inchtdo tr~c:v~b into melhods of ndvrrl.isini±, prollucg:wclizinR, Ihntsnrlof I6in"8 1:uu nnh LJking aLouL doing it. 1:un lullcin;~ nbutlL enl;ni"intg in nnd spenditt!, t:lx utunql' fnr reL1rurc.h as to ilto MrstC vcfty to get snnlei.hing IhrouR6 lo m man's miml. Ilr.'Ibaucr. I IltinlcthnG oLcionsly if 1'mt lntvt+arespcntsibilily fnr infnrm:tl.inn nnd ec[nratinlit in tho field ot he:tltlt, rnta Lns to Intncr Itow prnplo t-enr.t. ancl receivn snch infmtna/.inn, lntd whnt, lu'ee t6e farlars crLlrlt clelerminn whtther Iltey Itrcrpf. it, or (tn nul, ncrept it. RRIt'. Riwtters uf 'I'Iten, I)ov.lor7 )~on tlo nnt feel t6nl, cnm' :nl- ILoril,y ful' re.enrvih II:IR 1 dn pritunrill' 16111 lnd,lic ho:tll.h, aod tLnl. tchrn1 puu dn Iltis re.seln'clt nnd yon nmlce rrrtain lindint;s, und rc,n I urn 16ut over In 66o prolnr nad.horil.ics and sny, "llere is a rol,url,,' Ihul cb,c." nol.linish. yunr.lob. Ynnrjnh I.hertr'nntinues to p;u iulo r/r+eurrly In tchcrc yno c.un sell t.heso findiugs to the Anteriran pahlin. l)r.'['o-:nn-. 111y disn{~rmment wlllt ynm slodemmnl..cmdd Itee on Ilie Lnsis of tLe. Llrt. iLttt. 1 fenl f lutt. Iho t}'pt of slndirs Iltnt. m :u-, duiug tur.:t pv'6 o f pnblic 1lrtllli. NIr. Rnurlus uf '1'esns. Let mr nSlc t'uu Ihis. W6:tl do cun feel i" inrlnded in pohlic IteuJIL$ Itt.'1't:tw,'. 1.euold snl' rrvpunslbililies in 16n lield I6:ditnulce Ihe Ilenllh nf lite 1'nhlic. Pfr. IItN:r.ta nf 'PexnS. What is Ilte henllL in IILC puLlic.? Is /6n116t+ tnrlhod by~ .cLiclc tluy trcei-to iuformntion'd I1sec-uts to me Iltnl. is iu I hn conumw icul ions lield. . ltr.'I'r:nrzv. l'erlainly tlletr:ur, Inls uf Ihiogs in llto c'ntnuntnical ious IieLl Irhirh ntr. ~ ery intporl ttnl: to the. fieltl nf henll.h in lertns of tell intr 31nu IcU11tC 1111cI1'r,lt sh011111 ll:tve 1t cerl:tin type nf t'ncria:dL,u nr Ilud you shonld nnt. 79teso c.an be Lrnltlt tu:dlers, Mr. Ito~or~.

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102 1'1/1AlthA"I'Is LAnl'1JN1{ .ANU :\n\T:II'1'ItiIN(i--19f'iu 11fr- ('.,urrnur. AVc auw.hlJn 1.6rsn Lllin;,m vyilhuna shon'iuh Ihe :tcl.lnll rn.un:ll rrl,ll iounllill. In rsprrinlenl5 tm nniuutls, uIrich hlcva bnou cun- dnr.lell, lunt; n:mcrr hns never btYyu producr,d by the inhalst.ian of rw:u'rt.ln swol:r. Ilnvvrvrr, ilt hns bvrn prwhlrrd h,y exposing Lhal. :mnnn I I u Ilnnnlod nir, in I L,tL uot tl'nr? Alr. Ihcurv. 1 I.Link I k:nr' road srrolollliu, on I.hn.l,sir. 11 r. ( lurrral. '1'Iuulk ynu,vir. Nr. FuI1Nr-l.\\. 'I'huuk yun. Nu\v, Alr. ('Lnirlunu, yon rrfrrrrd :t \cllilo n;;u Iu Ihr. /'. Luri7Gni! ~Iwr. (lf ruol:,rV lhnl. o'n:; n\rhr'rr. Illa. ('. Irnrillnrd ('n. \cns nd- iu firwIrr'v I liy;r~t\vil II rrfrrrurr I i, I ha fnrlI hn.l. ILr:y luld I Ilr crrt Inin,, Iuvyrnl lurnliuo nml I:u conlrul, is I11:11 uol. riahl.? Alr. IhxIrN. 'I'Im.l.isrnrrrct. Alr. Ku11NUat\'. lu nl.hur \rurd6, Lkn.l. \cn.s it r.nvn nhe.ro ,yon hud it ulrocilie nltrrrlisrmnul Ily n vlmailir rnwlnluy~, is Llntl. Ilot Lrun? Rlr. IIIZUN. '191ut iscorrcrl.,sir. Afr. l:olovrunc. A ud yrl-I lmld is Ilhn i.ype (,f a r.nsr, t6nt you n,ro nsing nud hmo :uwntnlcsl, dormue.nled, oil pngr 88 (if ynnr t'eport, as Lning Llro ha.~is fnr Ihn jln'iralir.lion Ihat you :nx'. Iryinq 14) taltc w this case, is Ihltk t.ruo? Afr. 1)IxnN. It. islmi nnouf ILecnsns,sir. All'. KnnNl:onr. I knnn' it is onn of Iheln, bntt nll of those other auses aro :ICtions .It!ninst sprci6r rompnnins rnvolvin sl>r-c:ific sihur t.ions of :Idvertisinh, is I hnt, not t rlle? Afr. I)IxoN. -1I. ~rrnt beyond thnt., Itnd I Ihinlc if yrnt wish for wa lo gn nnd rlrlincate e.vcry ono of Ihrlu, vv~n vcill be here n.lonf; 1.imo. A1r.lrunxrunr- 1 t)o uot. vv'unl. ynu to do Ihnt in the intntests of tilur. I naull you l a jnvt, nnv\vor ycs or nu. Air. l)Ixnx. 'Pho Rnyon cnse mhdo no parl.icular refnrence to tho fact tho.t- _ Afr. FnnNt:nA\-. 'I'haI \cns Ihr nno Ilm.t. you roforre.d to yesterday. Alr. f)ISUN. Yrs,sir. llfr. 1CouN.:anv. Nhero you :nl(e t.hc indnsl,ry boys got, lo{rolllr.r ¢nd nrrord on solue.l.hing, \vas it, nnt,? ',yll'.nlxnN. No. Alr. Kunncn.vr What? R(r.l)ISON. Wclowehndn.liti;;nledcasefollowih. Mr. iConNl:onr. l)id ynn hnve n lil.ignlion in the. Ra,yon rase? Mr. 1)rxox. Yes, sir; we have a litifinlyd cn~so on ra.ynn prodan+ls. Mr.KnsNr:aty. A1lriRld.. Nnw,let.nemove.along. 11(r. l)Ixurr. We fr'y Rrnnrnlly first In give advice, n.url thml if it. is not. I alcrn, scr% site. Atr. Konrv rern\'. Yon In.he nnl.ion, tln yon no1.? Mr. 71nnN. '1'hntt is rirrhl.. AL. 1Cnnxrzq.Ar. Yr.s. Nnw, y(,nr anly nlrans of enfnrrrnlrntl lun vv-hn ivve enl l t he r~r:r sn n ml das ist ot'dm's, n.ro thcy not.? Afr. 1)Ixox. Not I1La onh' lnvnns. lt is Ihn ultimld.e nlomts. Af r. Kulcnral+y. 11. in Ille ~dtimn.in nlr:ws. Afr. 1)txoN. lt. is certxildy onn of Ihr.m. 11fr. KonNn;c n. 9'ho oldy ono vvith nny lae.th in it. Mr.l)IxuN. I will nt±rrs+n`il.h Lhnt. ~ Afr.l2:rneNlcnAr. Ylmllnvr.thr'.l\ne'rrof prrsunsion. VIr. 1)IVI~. 'Ihip is currrrll r'nl.\/fY.l~ro: Ln61:IdN(7 ANU :\n\PnCr151Nr; -InaB 111:; tlr. IGnexu:r..tv. VVhir.IL }'olr rxo.rr.isr. Mr. 1)I xnN. 1Pe 6nro l.he pu\ve.r ol' iu,'ancl n relief. Afr. 1(nlrvnu~r. linl. insofnr Ils Illn Iry;:ll rclnndirs \v'hiclt Ihc F'I'C tni, il. is t-kr. rrn:m nnd dcsist orller, is I1L:linni riII/.? Jfr. UlcoN. '1'his iv rit;lli, 6a1. \rr nro rnn6lcd to nraomplish Ihis .nloo rnalll sknrl, of I ho rrur:n nud detiist ~ urdrr. 11 . is one of I lle lurI II- ~~dvlhnl.\cr.r,r(ninlvll:~n -il.islhoultilualr. ,Afl'. I\I/ItNI-lU1'. IA'I. If10 I'rirll \'llll llire nf IIII: faolnolts lurr. 'Fkn Un %uru.vN. Rhly thr Chnu' iulrrrnld.'d (1)inrus;ino olf I hn rrr.oed.) I\Ir. KnuNrr..\r. I A'/. mn jusl. rrnd Ihi., sl:l]v.rnrnl, if I nm.p, Atr. (7hnir- mm~ of Ihn Corolnission; Jndl;e Id\vin I)n.vis who \ens ot fornter (lont- missioner nnlt n Alembm of Conl!ress \vLrn tho 1Vherlnr-l.en Act, was pnsaml in tl/ari wnllu :t slattetnenl, in Ihl' (Jongrassinn;rl Recot'rl. hfr. I11xoN. I?a'in llavis. l le hieul mo. AIr.RolnNlulA r. Yon:tre\crllncrplaiuled tvilIlhisl. 6tr. 1hxnN. I tnrenln,sir. Bltr. KorNl.n.\.. I In \rnvn.lino frllmc. Afr. Ihxnv. Ilnnnrn vvns. 1G. KonNr:u.v> (rending) : Wken the l5mlmission isxnca a cense nnd desist nriler, that Ix nll thry enn dn. We rnu Junt cny aop. lalhut uulriglrt'1 \Ir.l)Ixrr:~.'I'Ln1.i~rig61. 'I'Imt.isnnr\r;tyofea,yin~il'.. \Ir. Knl:nn:anr. And yrt korc, as I scc il., Iha('.ouuul:sion is inlrnd- inl! In elop ~omrl.6iu(± 1)laf. h:ls nr.v'rr luyn sls.rlyd nnd atlenlpling lo ~I,c<n nnld Jr~i.,ll fl'omi srmlolhing ILnI. hnv nulrr brr'n nnliripulyd. In 1'.onl.Iu4ian, Ivrnnt. to say LII:11. t.ho ineonsistency of it nll renlinds mn uf :t lil l In poenl Ih:rt. I. Iritfned somrwhere 6ack in school. lh vvatt <nmellrinl± lil:r. thii: Ilme Is'I'ucalay marnin4. l\'rvincallnp Jlwt nt nlirkt: I knorv n(hnnsnml mnea nwsy .\ hanne JnFt ont of sIKlrt. "'1'hc lmnse DroJrrtrd f rnm I hr rrvtr, '1'he frnut nup nroond thr 6nrk : 1 t sI uod nlone \vi I h two ot krrn, AuJ the fmira ~wrs \chilru'uNLrd Irlnrtk" '1'hxnlc yon, illr. Chn irnnm. 'I'6n (`n:vwnrAN. Mr. Vnn I)re.rlin, Iln you have any qnesl.inns? 6tr VAN PvI=atr,IN. A{r. Chairlnnal, I was just going to observe that if thn rslimnle of IfN1,0t10 daxlLS it yenr to Inng cancer is tt volid onn, thrn I hn hrenkdox'n ::ho\rs I hltt. 1 I Ameriraus havo died of lunF cancer -Inrinl; LLo 6nm. I Ir:ll wn ha \n hrrn 6urn I Lis olnl'ninJ±. 'I'hnulc crm. I'ho ('n \n;nrsn. Air. Jnrnnlu. Atrt dA11mAN. 1'd like lo cununenrl I ln, Cll:lirman for his sl.runt;, Posi- livo slntv.ment.. I srthlto tltn F'IY' for its rntnal;cons posit.ion on the prnbleln hrfnre us--fm thn ndvnrlisintg aud Inbcling rrqnirnuwnLs nf Iho rulo to hrnome etl'eative on .Inly 1, 1!16G. 'I'hn pressure.s on thn Chairnlan Imd t6o ('ommivsion iu this nurl.lrr nmst I>n hon.vy--1 hopn sinrcrrly thal you J±onl.lrmen will hnld liem lwl trill la'r<r\'rrr in Ihr- rtirrlicr rufrlrrrlnrul of \'oor rok'.

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IIR c1UArsK-rrrl LAtlbaINr nNU Au1~Paer1,IN1; 1Ufi5 Ih.'11aurr. 11'I:irL sluve.y istl:is? U r. ICnnw:r..tr. '1'6c uuo t.lutl. 11 r. Iturrrs \ee:dd inlo. I)r.'1'r:lutr. 'I'hr pnhlic opilunn inrvey, yes, sir, il. 6as Ltru madc nv:r Ihe Itnsl.year. tylr. h:ncrvo:r.,a. Aml il \\:tti ILa uur t'on :;aicl \cas dune I11' Ihe Na- liouul ('ouw.il..._- .. Ihr. Tn:lcm'. No, sir, 1)r. llurn ~':u: slraigLlcn Iltin (ul. 1)r. IIunN. '.17w firld lcm'Ic \cnv vnrrie:l unl. Ly Nnliounl Aualr~l,, 1 ur_ Ahr. A'ukn'c:u.v)-N Is Nnlionol tlnnhsls, Inc., n rrrognized pullJer uulGt.? 1)tt IIo1cN. 1"ev, sir. Ik i, nne \il' the lire 1:rgrsL mnrket resenl'rh survey orE'nniznl.ious iu I6c euuutry. All'. K(lltNroxl,vr. ("unqtnruble, tcn vviil sny, la Ifaltrl, nr Lun II:)'ri<? 1)r. 11unN. Ycs, air. Alr. Kn1INl:c:,vv. ( h Gnllup? I)r. IIonN. Tt:s, siy. Alr_ Knlwb:r.nv-. 1'uu s:,id (6is vrns 111111 uld nn a bi:l ? 1/r. Ilo1tN. Yrc;, sir. 'I'ha(:rlAnc,1r.\N. Yuu\ruultlu'LorrrlunlcNirlnnu,\crnlldy~nui Alr. ICOltnl:a:n~. I hope unl, Mr. (lhnir:nan. 7)id :tny'Ludy et.4: bid ou t his 3 I)r. lfultN. Ycs, hir, LLrro )ccrr licc s:Lnlisxinns. Alr. HonNl'nitc, Fiee bids (ln il.'? I)r.11unN. Yns,sit. 1AIr.liukNis,vi'. AnllNalionnl.Aunll'nlsvsnslhelotrbid,llidteil! I)r. IInnN. ]~os, sir. illr. ICaumua,v.-. Nnvc, 1 belim'c 1-on snid (lLal. Il:rre. vrelr :SI)0 qlu" - liuus iu 16c tluesl.ionnnin:, Ur.1luru. I)r. 11u1eN. 'I'Iro rxaeL uuwbrr of quesliuus, sir, \~nries tlependin_ on 16e lc imlx of flus\cers prnple gice. 6ur es:uuple, sn:ulcrrs were ml:ed uturo yuesl iuus I hiul nunsuloknr,, 6r:nn,t+ n ruud mu uy quesl ions t\rrra nskeil nbuuL tlleil snlolciug Inthils; \\Len ILr.Y IleRun,~ltotr wnrlt IlnynmokoJ, tunl so tni. 61r. ICuttNtv~tr. '1he. /ulal nmuh:r nf yuesl.iuns--ho\c nnniy \\:w Ihal.( As.vwniug hc \rns nskrcl 1'.\e.r.)' quex/.iun. 1h. Ifu¢N. 1~'c~ll, :ul inclivitlunl c'on61n'1Le usked eccry tplevl.ion In- rwse snmr qnesl iaus vice.re nslcntl t:uly uf peuldo )vbu Imd~never sotoked nud ulhcr:lne.nliuus ncyc asked uuly nl' Ihnwl vcho did. Alr. KanNl!rnr. I wrvc qursliuns I6nL orrc prelr.tred nnd put inlu the quesliunna.irn 1)r. IIwIN. 'PLe qanv6ious arn uwuberecl, anJ Ilte nuud:er (if t6e 110. quesl ion vshich a~tGs asked is No. _'6u. 11L~. Kulweu:v1. °[p)? I)r. l(nnN. Yeg, sir. AIr.1~unNr:aar. A nrllhisivneupyol'llloque,liunnairr,i,n'( il? 1)r. 11ntcN. Yes, sir, iL looks like it. n1r. KokNhunv. Aud its uuverti soum-10 paf;es? I h. IlcqaN. I Lnven'L cwnllad (6cm, sir. 1'en, it, sny8 pnl;e 4/) nt I llee euvl. \Ir. KunNtxo.ut Aud nmul' of t6c qnrsliun. ruu n pn;me or mnl'e iu Itn;,l It,:unl aret hrulau :luvcu inlo A, It, :,nn'1 I kev''? . l'iu,11I4rrrG 1,.\IUVaJNt7 \~P :\PCb;MrIKINU -IUUS II!) \Ir. KnrcNCU.\s. Lrl mtj na a=6: \:ml6i., I)r.Il::ru,nwl I J..u'I n:e:ut brlilllv Ilti, ynr:d iunnnnr ::I ::II, Ir::l Itu\c in Ihe \curLl r::n y:m g~el Imoldo I.: sl:uul :+1 ilI Im ;g ru:ncg6 I n go t ltrough ;:I I/6L:, iu:6^s you I.:: c Ihrut lod(k il') 1)r. IlosN. I'Inl ~nrry, sir, bul oy\pnrrntly yuu o.re inexpericore,l iu 16t lield of publi:: opiuiou puil.. IUr. Kunw:a.\r. 1 3111. 1\e1utl tu Sel s\nue Imu\eledr' un it. f rnn'ti sre Luw ;tny~hnd)~ \r6~: hos R.d anylLinR sl, nIl In dct, nitelher it is :1 6nu,,o\cil'e, husiner~walu ur wly"holk. \cho tcurlcs, is goinfr l0 6aee limc In n 16ruuglt I his. I Lare luul:r:l thrun"Oh il antl il Inkesssernl Iluw's In rrncl:uld nus\crr. III'. IIoItN. Sir, IIIV IIFelYthl' :IIIWIIIII of linte for 16is iulerc-ir\v \cas I ho:u. fur ILure \rho Ir,td necrr sulokrd ril;nrcllcs:uul nbunt. I hnnr aud 2U mi:udrs iur I Itnsr \c6u 6ud rvet 6een ri},m IeLfe sutnkcrs. Dfr. Kmc.lzr..\r. 1)id tlle llollAtr a~k Ihe tplestionsd l)id hc rrnd Iheqneslious'x l ll'. I I:ntN. 'hIn' InI Vl'\'IP\\'el' n1Ie1'\'It'\I Wl Ily Ilsklllg IIIP IIIWF(nlils; y-rs, cil. Blr. 1:::¢yt:a.\y. 1)n:ti I:e gu nrnaud I\: Ihn lu:usc. ot ;(o lu (6r ullirre nud soy, "leI mre mdc Yuu lo p:u'lirip:tlre in Iltis pall" or l:me nre Ihr prutiprt'Isl;atten't I1P. IIu11N. 'IIIIS IR (I/MIQ I11' IItnIn1I11IlIy snmpliu~r ~trnrc:hurs \chirL invol ces dititiiuf,. tlecumd l,y np inlu a t;ycnt uuuty drll'errutI urea=, :utd Ihen rclerling purliuns of Ihr romtlry, se);mculs tvLi\6 nre t'hctrno./er- iaie nf tlte total pupulaliuu uf Ihnlhtitrcl Klotfrs. 'I'6eu nll Llte hnnse- 6ol:is;tn:1 mrwbw. af h:wsr6nlds nitl:in tllusre porliuus nre lisletl, and Iry rnnduut we:nts I he, indivillnnls Io he inlervictcecl lur selrtIC\I, sn (hul in Ihix sense, n persnn's innlusinn in 16r tilud,y ig prrclrlrrwiueil, 11111 u fmtrl ion of rllnnr.'_ ~ tvmr, l6c mfusnl ralCOU I lc is iulervie\c \cns 1e.ca 11mn C: perornl. Alr. ICantNO:c,n. I)r. Ilnrn, I mu Ihiul:iuf! Inuro in teruts of a'll:dy is the. nppronrh'? I low does Ilte 'tollsler Itett someLod,y \cl:n iv \cillin;~ In pnrlielpnlea in Ihe prngr;tm nncl Inke Iht) limo lo answer all tLesc+qnrs- liuns/lt:ll \cnnldLnpul IuLiw? Ihr. IltnaN. Iln iulrodnrrs hirnStIf nnd lells Ihe indi\'i4u:tl \\iwl lte vr:ml., and in nltnut. 1!1 cnses onL uf 2tl I1Lee iudividunl iv willing In ho ildrrrie\cc:l. 'I'6e, refLsal rsle \vns undnr. G prrrrnt, \rLirh is reninrl(nhlr. hlr. KnnNr)G,n'. Isn'Cil.lrue 16;d thc iulelvie)eelx tutd pullsters \.1Lo viceuL around told Ihe peuplu lo be intercie)cnd WaL tLis n'as u stndy Lringdnuo by IlLO11.4. 1 iuverumrul 8 Ur. IfnuN. No, sir. '1'lley iuhvnlurecl Lhemsolvrs by saying: I nw sn nud r+n frnm lhr National Annlysts, Inc., a ri'nenrch orgnniznlinn i» 1'anmylcmtin. 1 wn \rarklug nu it study ut Penple's ophdnnn fur n 6rnnrh of tha li ti. (IurrrnmrnL Ihis clndy lu L:in,; dnne nll over Iho .~unnlp' nud p..ur huu,r hnpprnc:l fu Lv crlvrded ns a Pn l'I. uf thr unl InnUl N1nuPlr. 111r. I:nrzNt.:r..vr. Lid .yun sny il. vc:w being donn fnr ILS. (7urcrn- u:el i 3 1)r4 ifonN. 1'es, sir; fut the (iarrruntcntti nol. Iry Ihn (inrerunlent. '1'6o indiv~idu:tl inle~odueed ltimsall' ns bniug from Nnliunnl Annly-sls, Inr.. >1h. Kanwsanr. ho yun ILink iLnt. 16n1t vvonld Luy/v :wy iwprrsrinn an I 6u ltetwun, Llx\ pcospealr--.

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i)'1 1'IUAIiP~I'I'1( t.AlIl:WNft 9NU An1'I:ItTIR1N(i )96: in I!IG~ )vu nmlrrl,rut ad radirnl a6:ulno iu 16o Luudling of businr.,~ InuI.lcls ilrvnfnr is Ihu .Alurl'Icnn Lnriur.~sw:nl ,cns tnurt~l'nad, is tllet currrrl? \I r. 1)l ~nN. I rlo urd I:nou n)LCILo.r ~-uu would eull itt rudir,:ll or nul.. 1Pn wlnlllrtl- . I\I r. Ittruo:l:. of'Pasns. I IllonkLL LLaI. lvan yom' wurd. l. ILon 6t vou s:tirl Illis ll;t.s a rndirnl cll:nll,n, a.nd ,ynn :y±rrrd lo wurk ont nt~visol.y. L i u d l n l; :l d v i suev op i u i uus. ilfr. 1)rxor;. 1S'n Iricd oln bnvlsiurr IJlat d:ly tn wnt'o n;minni. Illr ncils ns I.Ilr.l' tvisl, rullwr Ihnlt uuo ut a I-iurc af,r:linsla those who Iniglll uunnuit I6e.m. \Ir. linnr:r,v of 'I'rsns. i do uot, wn.ol. In knnw Illo l'envon for il, but j uslI6u frrlxedmr)16nt n'ns fullolvcrl. Now, .yuu did nu6 couto baclc tn Cuuo'rtss lo fiat, wny nul6nt'i/.v lo rIroul;o lvInt.t.,you hntl bmu doin;q in 1.6n Ir:l.sl., did yun,llir 1)ixun9. \fr. I)1suN. Na,sir. V r. Fiouoats nf 11w:a.asrw iu t.hn bnairo act, ilsc'If---I pniultd In nrr'Iinn 5. I tcill rlalv Icoinl.lnsnl.inn G of Ilrn:lr./. Svrtian li(1;) nf Ihr nrI1 rrad, ns fullorcs: Frmu lium (n Ilwo li: rlasalp rur'Pnralir.uv :Iwl lu umAr ndrre mld rrr;nlnl.laav fur 1 hrn yUrPu..n nC r,u'ryiul; ant. t hc pn .vimiun. uf Lh is :Irl . 11r. Rnulaw rlf'I'rxsn. Nolc, ILee prueiviuns af thi5 nrt, Aelud. Ih:rlt is refrl'riu;; lo i.l hn In'r.rr.nl.inu uf nu f:lir I n':u.I irrs. 111r. Ulsnn_ 'I'Lnl. is r.n'rocl.. nf r. Kuaral. of'1'rsns. :1 url decrpl i ve IrrnrI irr.. \Ir. IhznN. 'I'll:ll. i~ r.orrrr.l, sir. 11.Ici.ti I~rcu 1llerr, nll Lhis tiwt. \lr. Rnru;¢. (of 'Pr~as. 1 rs. 1 luulnl-anud Ill:cl. ISut nnrv lrl ux grrm 6nnlc ju't.:l u:iuulr. Fnl' wuuy, In:l.u)1rars yort tvnrn h:r.vinf. I;'IVuf, dillicnIl,l' t6lh 16in sil.wd.ir/n Ilu'. ,rlry q"u ,rrra r.ul'ureiul± il, aud ,)'on did nul, rh:lngt, iluulil 1962. NNow, tclrv leus il, nul, c6anl;ed prirnrtu 11)It3 if qnn hncl :Il I Illix I rouhlr? Nr. IltxuN. 1YrIl, I nns nol, dnlen t.Lorr, sir. T r:unlul, nnsctrr fur I.hul. I an:; uul. /'.uuurli...inucr, 1111.1 1 IJu nuli lutuo whcl.thm' they hnd ~nrion, ir rcrr r:,usirLm rod I.IIil~ ur nol. Itnl I nlihllls:ry I t;uur iu Ilt'. Mr,ltr:ll'1'rndn (lounnitixinn tts:l, cunn" 6ri1' in IU:SA. I 1111.1 hrrn IILCrr 'Ifi n. II'llll Irllur'llr)' lllltl up un Ilto.'llill I ~'t:n's Lr.l`nrc I tvenl bncIc. nlv fcllna Cnnimis'inurr 6nro, 1{vrrct lo Afnr I ul yrr, allu Lad st1'vnd o0'tlnd uu htrt, nn,l vas,rrvin;: lailh Ihc llunsr. tinmll Iduslueas (lnnmlilirr. naurn6nr.l:ns:l.(Snnuliskionr.r,in1!CtO. OnnnflllnnLllrr(lauuaisrinn' . cls, \(r. I':hu:lu, Lud Irrrn iu l.he Sulicitor's ullire siuco a6uuf. I:IrIG. AI. 1 Lcd1 imu Gotrruor :1 nchocsou fruw tir:alll 1):Ilcola lutd 6oou (ltere abnnt. 8 ur p ye:us. }1'n had yniln a. Irit of rcpvrliso and lcnowlrrlgn of Lhn bualg;rnnu,l,:ulJ wn npphrd il.. Alr, ltouew; ul"I'esnv. II' pon haJ n,r lunr'll rcpt1'lis. nt tlull, timo., tchl' Ilitl A'r:u not nl:l lae 1.6is ~h:,u"r LnrIc I 6o.r:? I rwyu I Ju nnt unJcr.. shntd lvliy. ' 111r. lhxcrN. [Ua.v uol n Cmm11li~:vitunrr. Ill Dl:lrrh IPCI, 1 llrca.wo (`Lnirmnn af Lhu FrQornl 'I'rudo ComnlisNinn, nnd I hm-o nno-tiftL of 16n llrnc~er.inrc 16:I L Liluc. Mlt Krlr.r:cs ul' '1'rKns. 1'nu ftv'l th:u Ilrtl. )-uu Ncr.rc, Iht. a.ldllm' of Llti.,~llnut;u, l.hia radiral c6nn::r. )uu refrrrr,l Ir~P \lr. UlXu.v. I tvnnld uul cluiw aul6nr.;hip. I Illink Illr Iin51 lilur. I rr.ill, . ,.1 ..I 1 .11 id I ...1 ill. ,. .. I 1 r r rn;AllPfr'rE LnllY:Lln'a Arcu An\KIrfISINU -1Ur., hd.yrn mlulitrnrrl il. Ilul rcn I:irlced it :n':nlnd aml Sfuditcl il frn' nrr- rrnl luuul h~ Irtfora tcr rcultr, I leh:d. tcl-arlnld trl. \Ir. Huur:las ul'Icx:rv. lrn. Antl this I)p<' nf mli.lluril\ ~, Alr. Dixon, lind il.lxrn n.::uwr,l Ir~u u y ul hrr nJmiuinl rul irr. . r \Ir. I h..nN. l.'rn:I ically rter.punn in hrwu nl' 1.6n+tr~ca.lltt I trnn rr}!n- I:dm'l' :lcurir~:-. .I~l'( `%c,hirll you arc fnnlili:lr lcill6, t6n l':11t, uurl I.In'. tiha', Ihn Ivtderul 1'uwcr. 'I'hoy dn nutt du :tn)'Ihing Irul. issue ridr-s prnt.I ir:all). \Ir. Nn,uare of'I'r..:rs. 1 luenn Ihr parlicul:,r rndical chlulp;r ILnI. vou tcrut I.hrnugll iu ILc Frdtrnl ''rntlo Uuumlission, did 16r ut6rr ('nnr misioilz 1un6r}~o I6n ch:lu~;o nl. 1Lalt limc m' dirl Iht)Qu itt bcfurt or µincn Idleu ? 11 r. UlruN. I hnvn nn Icnuvrltrl,R,o of I Lrnl, sir. 1 imnl,iun they madt+ wuw pruvr:tnral c6:mgrs tiiula 1 hru. r1f r. Rowas nf 'I'esus. Nnlc, nl r. llixuu, :trI tntllllc6a.t unu adulinin- Irulicu n~rnrY rlnra r.nn bc :rn(1 is u=nl fl-vqnrul) c u~ n prrrrrlrul lu s0lrlrnrl.l Itn ~nI lun nf anol Inr, Is I lmdnul. rurrrcI ! M1I r. I)1 .Xr:v. I lvrnd:l uut dtu x. I lmt, nir. 11 r. li,:uracn nl"Prr,r,. 1'rS, tin'. \fr. I)IXoN. I f il;nts lor.unrl.,trrlniulA . 61r. Ratn:lw uf 'I'rNu.. So if cv6nl Snu did Ill I)qi3 1cuukl are:llr a endit,tl n6:l.n;~r in lrllirll )'un Nculdd grl. mul-c Ilulcm' I.h:nl vrwn prulllr. Ihnu}hl. puu tco.rr. r.ntillrlI Iu 6:wu :Ilnl Cou}lress ditl uut du anything nllnul. Ihis, Illn nilnalinu lvnldd siulply Iro Ih:tl Ille olltcr urruties rmdd rilc. I6i, av n I,n~rr~,lrol Iu mnltr, Ilu r::unn rLnugrs in Ihrir r:lnr prucrdm'c~,r:adtl Ihry nul.? ltll'. l)ISt /N. I I I11L.y W I111I MI IA, perlra ps l ht ;v nndd, sir. Alr. It,h:r:rv+ r,f 'I'rsn:;. l~r::i I ruu nul I:rllcinp_ u.6rmt if Ilu1lnull. In I wrtu il' Ihr)' dirl Illnt, Illrc r'nultl n:+c yuur ncLiull nncl Ihn nrqnir-;curc ul' Illr lbu;;rr.'s, Irl u, x:!\', if }'nrt wnnt lo rnll il. 111311, , ,r::l. lnr.rralonl. {nr I.ho Irttiis nl' fnr Illr. "ulrlrurl of Ilto 1':lrlIlral 1.6t}dn 6urr Ilris ullrlil iunnl:ndLnril y. Alr. I)r.n~,.ti. 1'nlr rrvnll IILr lrurd urquir^:rurr of ('unl;rr:s'. :Ur.ll,wa:nsnf'I'r.s:tv. Yrs,sir. 61r. I)ISUN. 1Pr rnu Iln 11111161111. Con!%rrss vrrv r:n'rfnllv s:lid wn coldd dn nnl6iul~, Ilud. tcn= unl rrci,,cnhlt~ ill lllr runslitutionnl fullllti. Alr. lirN:r.ls uf Trxns. I uurlrrtslauJ Ih:d, \fr. l)iscru. I lc:wl Irr rnmr, lu I I):11 iu jusl. u lnimdr. :1fr.lhxnv. 1'rs,.ir. Air. Roura:r of Tcxnc. liul 16r, poinl is 1.6iv. Is ILm'c unl n lint nf cnsns Nutll if tn :tdminivl.l:d.ivr ngrncv or :6 dcpn.rl.mnut I:rLrs trrlnin nrl.inn nnd Ihc. l;ougmsa durs uoll clo nul-IlrinRr nhnut 11., Ila rr,urls rau wn Ilhnl1 urquirsrrnrr nr fnilnrn In rln snnlrl6inl{ ns :t1 rrur:ouint~~ Ihnl il. lrns /6r iulrui of Illal Ilud nrrrlrr)' h:lrr Ilrn. IrulNur in f ht.lirsl itlr:l:lnrr? Mr. 1)IxnN. II. ,ruulrl tlrlro.lul a;:rcaf dr:tl npon 16n vlnlldc. I ILiIJc I wuldd have lo r.trsr rnrL indivillunl stat.nlrr to find Ilutl. Alr. ltt,nra;s of 'I'rxns. ~)o pnu nnl. 16inlc yonr romis+l .voldd a.rl;tm 16:,1if IILis tpleslino ramt, up Iwfurr Illr 9ulnrrnt, Court? nll'. nl.nN. Vn, sir; if lln dirl, I antdd Lmalc Ihis otr.l:. I do nnt. /hi/Jc I 6arn lo nrpue nrquicsr,nro. 11t is in Ihc Incv. li, is ;llrradp ilr Illn lu,'.. I rln nnlI kruvn lo talla alHrul ur,priosrrnro.

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12 ('I(7AItP:1"L'f: LAISIi1dN(7 ANI) AbVP:R'PISINtI--lOfi5 1Po brllerr, rnlLer, Ihnt hot ouly sperllie wllrllltlg, I:IIt alvo nther retlnlramettfa to prereut mtalrmlh:g atntemoat:: ol' eni1L sluuu in aueh prtnuolitiunl nmterlul, wurdd helP lo ruuntl attt om MYurla by a'ny of Publir iufunmd lnn mld educnllun to inr Irtrns uPon Ihc public Ihe hnznrtla uf alnoking.. Thls la imrL/enlnrly tTne tn rirnv uf Iho fnrl: --n furt raprrlnliy nlF:rlilcunff fnr Tou1rR la"rPk ihnt, n.v slnirv1 In Lb" AtltIanry UuI111::IIIM''N reporl., the'nvcrwhelullug evlrirnre Intlleulte ihnt amnk- Ing--Ils kegluuh:R, bnbll.unllou, uud Irc'rnslnunl dlscuuliumltlou--Ix In a hn'ge extcut IdrYrhnluKir:tlly ru:d ~tnbtlly drlornlinert." The ronsltlcrnlinuu nrgnhtg for npprnprlnle reguhttion ln tbis fleld nre, rnnre- ocer, pulllrirully cumprlllug lo mnke II likely lhnt In the nbsenee of BYdernl regn- lntiun Iho Btntas ur mnntcllutlltlea, or a nnmhcr of then, would nttempt to Illl Ihe eoid. Nith realnet to ndverttslug, stlch altempta would largely In! nhorllve btxnlnw uf lhe trrMtorlnl Ihnlts to `Jtnte nuthority, the nnture of some of tlle nd- verl.lwklg mrtllu, nud tbu excluWrlty of Seqvrol voulrul over 1'ntllo nWl tcleviaitnt cnummullantluu. Itut willl rexpnt to InlaJa nnci lnlnIing snch efforts could be lnnre elYetIlvq fvilh resulla lhnl, becnuac of Ihe dlver:+lty of reguintinu Ilkely to oca:st wnnltl tr:nl to but':len the hldnalry fnr loore neverely thml P'edcrnl regu- lal luu woulcl be Iikely to dn. In the cace of a prnnunt; anclt ns, cignrettea, whlch le MdDPM hy the mnunfni-LUrer hlto every 231nte Iry fhe mlliinna of Pnrkages, unL- fnrnillY of InWliug requiremenla mnuld esem to be nf lhe cssenee. It in no doubt btrlulul uf nucll etmsidoruI lona thnt. strt.iou 7 of 11.11. 3014 nnd ILIL 4W7 Oruvilten for k'rdernl preempiluu of the tlPkl. R'e at'e unouurngtsi bX ntld ceelecmrc, Lltr rurrrnt effort of (hv iudnstly at aelf- regnhttion, as cridrnrod iu tkc eigarel.la udrertialug cnde ogreed ulron by the cigarclio numufnrtnrrrs, whirh nlso cnvcrN InLCling nutl which luchtdes uot only u.Intrinrul uf stnndmrla but irrnvislons for rleurnnre n91h nn btdcireudrut o.mle achutuislrulnr b) raeu:bera nf Ihe rnlmltaty vyclenl, antl for pecuuinr)' snnclinuc nnd puLlirlly by Ibl+ nd:ninl,IrnLor nicutnalt viulruurs of Ihe enuo. An ndrqnnl" vnlunlnry prnl;l'rm: mi{;l:t uffrl' a rrnaounWr wltdiun to ndvvrlwiur; prohlrmn, luul we xnPlun-tI rfl'oris In lhia tiirniion. Wr nulr, butvnvrr, Ilull. Ihr vodc, Ihuugh prul;rr.~cive In a unuibor nf wnyn, nlolr`: nhurt. nf I'rqnlrlUff an ulliruurlirr hrmllhrisk wurulnt;. IA'n bclievc Ikall reknlut.inu, trhelher volmlt:lry or alnladnry, should exlrnd 6ul.lt 1 Inbrliu{( { i.r., auy wril ltu, pr0,trd, or Krnphir mal Irr upnn tu' amnmp:nrp- ful; Inu r'uucutuer lulrknge nwl vnrluu ruld Lu ndvrrllviug (olhet Ilmn lubrliut') iu ilu nuinun fnrms. P'nrlbor, wilbont ihl nn)' lrnb' tlurulannhtg lhe Fnienrl Trnlle rrkuLtlury rlnt.hurity tu Lhi, lield, wr Irnre conclntlell, na imlirnlyd lu 3our cuntnlit.lrn I:InI year, fllnl. rrmoJinl :u'liml in Lhlu firl4 sholihl. wilh rrnlarl lu luballtlg nl. Irnxl, hrrluJr uew nntl sPrt'llic Irgimletiuit nud Lhnt In nnr virlv the w,wl eliarlift npprunclt tu Inbt9lnr; rra;al:rlirn: (with 1'e.qaxl. la Lhc henlth hsr.crd Il'nm via:urtto utnukiun) Is la brilq; Ibr hibrIlly; nf rinnrrllvv, bs nlqprrnprlulr+uuruduuul, rn:drr Ilre Vrdrrnl Ilnzurduu:c ftuL~1:IIN.s Ln6Oiuir Ael', N'llrl'c il, ruukl Le rrudilp Illlrrl 1u0r Ihr ronnlntrn'v nrAr:ur uf Ilult urI, nud Its rnfurce- rneut. (lPhilr ill ruuy Le nr/;urd Ih:lle rig:iro/lru nlrendy foll willlin the srnpr ul' ILaI nrt, we brlirve that nmendweuL uf Ihal1 aet ia deniralrle to uvobl ruu- Irurtr.v,t' uu IWn IWlut mpl tn rltl:IDt the Inbeling reqnhvmenl:n, e(e., to the nl>r- rjlir objerllve.) 5orh rrl;nlulhm ovrr the ndverl.lnlutg nf ei/;ru'rIles na mny h(, needetl shnultl. tro Lrlfovr, tuutimre Irr he esrrclsrtl Iry Ibr k'rdernl Prntlc /lnlnudsminn, tvketber unArr rxt..liuR luw ur mWcr nlrproVrlnlr ndclrudn lu Ihe rclevttnl' provlelons al' Ihe \\'berIrr-Len nlnendmeul tn the b'nlernl 9'nule Culumisalun Act tLe., ePCA IS-lu) uf Ilu art, wllivll uotv Pl:ibil: fnlco nr ruir+lr:lding nJverll.vrmrnt nf fnutl, drug.v, drrlrcs, n ud rualurtiv.a. It. ++hnulrl Lr ru:plmnlzrrl In rrmurclina wllh Ille nbnve-.ylrlled prulul.uaiu 111111 1 ruurdinaliuu brl.u'eeu Ildullulsirnliou of thr 11njd, Ilr,:/;, nnl CnwnoIlr Arl nrnl Ihnl nl' Ihr R'bwIcr1.n :Imenthoc.tlt 11:IS hr'tu nrhirrt9l tvl/.hullt tlillicnll.3' Illldet' u worklu/; :1 Frormtul. hrl.tveetl I be twn ngancles Ih lirw of I.he nbuvc-nuntiuuud annnidrrntiuou, wlrtle fnvmIng tlln objevtive ~,f Ib,ao Lilln tu ruurry lu Ihe rouslnner a unrnhlg of the rk:k In henlth Iln'olvwl ln snn,kiug mr inn'c sevrrnl nxrrvnllnua nbnul Ihe prenrnt bills. - I. Lt tbe IIt'.4 IIL:/'l, It. &4:lla Irl'Pf/t':1blt\ fr'/r:a Illr slnndtrohlt of Ilexibility B: the li;;hll uf ndrnw-ink knnn9rdge, lu hnve furn:nhllion of Itlc preclae w:u'ning rrqnirrJ tn nOurilliytallce rrCnlatlun Inplrarl nf::PllinR fnflh Ille u'nrning iil fhe sl:llrllc Itsrlf. We IIICrPforc v11KLrul Ihut Ibr Prdrrrd Il::runluuv 9u111nnoos IelLrllu/; r1H . br uwondrd 1'u Inllhuriv uu, oll I.Lr L:uas uf l.hr rulrtIlt alalc ul' IuwulrJ{:n ul. !Uq I:itru limr. Iu f,urlrutlulr I,)" rrenlnlluu nntl Ilpprnle'lulr R'llfll CI(IA114A'I'Y: LAItISLINtI .1NIr AUV1ill'fISINII--IDk5 13 ing. Sh.nOtl Lko sltuntlnn thllune; e.g., aho11111 rPrKnrelt nr t.PfIIIlienl Illli/rove- u:outv lu Ihe t.nlrac o[ Lilne Jevelqp n titi7lre.lte that u'ot11A jnslify a rr.tluretl warn- iutf nr Pt'1'hnira cvell Ita uod.auu, elthor for all rlgnrnttan ur thtrse ntw-Ling lntr- LLrnlnr .~prcilirntlurnr, Ihn rcgt/lnllnn trould im rntnlllictl ntt.rrtliugly. 2. Snrnnd, whclher ur uote the slnfnfc sela farlh Ihe ternta of Ihe wnndug to ilo nwQ Ilt Ihe lnkcl, we bcllevc Llwt Ihe nlntul.e abnllhi rrqttire lhn tenrulrlg to Ln prrnulorllt. tlntl cunnldenoua bul. nllnuld leave thc Drmrisc harnlloll natl alze nf (he wnrning nn thr Inhrl, nnd relntetl nurltera, to rrgulntinn in Ihe Ilg/d ur ,thr rxlurllao oucl exlarirnrn at Ihn regnlnlory agency. 11.1t. R061 nud tl.ll. 4007 uould. instend, require that Ille rnulion atnlemtntt "nplumr on elther of fhe t.wo sltlr pnnela of the pnck, or In ihe cnse of a rylht- Orienl Iwck nln lhe sicle lhereof. In no Icas thnu a 10-Polut tylrt' on n 12-pnlnt .buJ.v. Iu tbc cnac nf hnxrs, cnrtnna, or cnnhdnera " other thnn Iitc Iu- tlivillnnl pnrk *" Ihe slntrlnent nlmlt be prlnlecl on n ni0n hl not ieaa thmt 1L-pnbll.lyrs!oun1d-Ircdutbnse." Nnl.on13'sbnuldnPrescrlPllonof(hlsrhnracler be Irfl. fo il:tlrlelnerllllrk lYtgltlnti011 In unr rlrtv, bnt Lhe alarllit provisluns qnotrd nn snch us In umke Itr nulikely tbn1. Ihr trnrutug tvlll Irr not.lcecl ar reo:rurbered. For nue IhinR, tu mmny Pbtree t.itrre rlgnnItna ruv snlcl ydi r+dnil nuJ In vmttliul: tnnrhiuus It Is I1Le fnrc (or nne nf Ilu Iw'o fnrer) nf Ihe pnrk, nur9 not Ihe nlJe, thnt ie di:<pittyetl; ond nfler tllo Pnck Is bonght a notice on Ihe nitle Is ninn Icas likel)' It, Ire rcnd Ibnn if it wcv'e oue one or Lnlh fares uf Ille pack. ARntn, 10-1u'intt tyln', n'hich Is 2 Vnlu1s srunllcr Ilnln Ihe tylle aiLV t1.W'll ill typing t.his lol.ter. Is h:trdly vnlrulnlnd tn l/n'lte Ihe roosnmrr's mttention. We brllevn, nlsn. tl:nt lrnth Ihe ei>;nn1 word (Lr., "Ilautiurl"1 nnd the atatetnent of havuertl ahould lle in cnVitnl leltrrs Lu ntlra'1 ntlrntlun, ns la reqnired nwler nllr regninltuna llurlur Ihe IreJerlll Ilnrlydntla Snbanures l.nbrling Act lvhirll, iuritirulnily, tnll fnr n.d Ir-:e ihnu lsPniut limr frn Ihr stgtnll wurll :uul uol Ir'nw Iluut 19 poiut I)'pr Irn' Ihr hnznrd luulivs Ihr lulml Rlnlrmeul. ol: Ihe rrml:lhnr la Inn nuudl Ir. arrnmluudnle nurll 1)pr uizt', ohirh lw nnl: Irrlr in Ihr ,nsv of ulna ri~nrr/O pnrl;:l. Il.lt. 1@1I, rcllllr nNn reqlllriiil[ uuly iuiliul rnPllulu, Imu uu prrriuc rllrrrliulur :1. In IyP'' sizu nud la'u/iuu bul rrquin:w rndy Ih:ll. LW tvnrning br "prlulvd ..n IIh.. l on/uirle' o" In olrnr, Ir-lblr, atltl Wninl) vluiLle priltl:' \Cr n'ollkl Prrfrr Ihr rvrpih'rlncu[ uf iho Vrdrrnl Ilaxorduun Subslnurc. 1.:iln0ing Art. Ilml. Ihr sl:drwr/lt. bo Inr:llrtl °Prn:uinrnl:ip " " in vuu"piruolw ntr0 Ir>;ihlo lype in ruulrast. b,v InpnffrnPhy: la)'uuL or r'nlnr"!cilh nllur prinleJ ttl:dl:I' un Ihe InbcI:' Ite :nurr Pnl'lirtllal'ly sprrilird In rrlallnliuns. TW' priu~iplc Ilr,ll shinllJ l;ovrl'n is ttril rlnlyd lu IPr I~rdrral P'uud. Urne. ::ntl t'nsrnrlir AlI rr6iib Jirrvlu Ilutt. all slulrmrulx rrllnit'nl nn n II :hrl br .IncamIncnll)' Id:lrrtl Ihrr:uu teilh s:urh onupirunn~ni..a (n= rulnpurrd wlth ulb.r 1<r.r,lm, slnlruunl.+. d,r.innu ur 4rtirru In Ihr 1:lbclh:ul un:l In surb I+ ns Ir, r. uJrr II. IlkrIc Gr rrntl IuIA rutdvr- sluuJ br Ihr urdiunry hlclivitlnnl untler rnrclunuay' rnndiliuus wl' pnrrhu:a :unl nar :' 3. \Pc nn'nn:r Ihaf It is huvudrd-Lut it nuq b( QrArablc In nurltt il. exPllrlt lu Ihe 4'vdetxl Ifnr.ln'lluua Snbatmtres 1~brliuc Act Inot ouly for rie;urrllrv bnt fur wln'lulrrca ntkrfwlne cuvcved by il l-- Ihnt. if Ihr rrvlttNrtl tvnrunn: in, to rfllrl, utt;nted nr tlinrlnlrnwl nu 111c InM1 ur In nern::tpuuplu~' lilernltu'r 6y trordN, atuloroeuls, dc:vlgns, ur uther Gr:q,hir u, . inI, Ihn tvurulu4 rrqulrruunt. xh:tll tr :1,rund nul. lu Anrr Lrvu nn-I. /Sr. *11 t'I.1L srv. IALIU'S.1 Itutmvrr, iu Ilrr vbw nf Ihr Nubllc I;rntlnliuuu p-:vihlr lu Ilrle r:ala't'I, u':' 1vnltltl vn{;1;rvl Ilult runsl0rr:diun ht tiiren tu tho dcslrnLilily of inrhulint; ulurlllo unlhrnrily h. ln'u- blblt ol' rr/;rdntr 111e lhu or vlnlrmrld" thul wnllr md rbcnrlc w.._nl luG Ilu tt:u'u- lu;; and w9lilr Illrrrdly Irne or nt I--nslnol. JrulntlslrnWp 111l,r :uny :;irr ihr .nn.nmrr Ibr InLulrndiuz iwnrr.anu Ilwi n givrn tiknrrllr iw :+nfrr Ihnn (hers. 1. A.a ~bdrd nl. Il:e onlsrl, 11.1(. -1'!1-1 11'oNrl rrvlufm Ihnl P::"Icvl;o.v uf rln:nrllvn pritdrtt uu Ihrm I.ba uiuolLce uunleul. nwl the Ittr ruultut uf fhe tig:rcellrv tu Ilnv VnrLOe.e. 11'e run ruurrnted Ihal anrlt n ntnllnory rrqulreunnt ndt:hl', ej,prrinlly ilt n curnl.Illire rnulect nrhere Ihr Pllbll. luny br n:orr hlrhly cnn- 1rinna Illnl thrrn 1.,dangor In amokin>!, nr utllizrd Ily rinnrrlle n::Umfnrl mmra iii :an'b s rv:n' (fnr exnnqde. nv part of n Inrzrr ndvertkluR cmwpair.u) Ilml uum,r prr:+i,n. tcnuld Lo utisletl 14, nr4lrrt Ihnt riKUrr.l.lra (ur n pn/'llrulnr brundl :rr. L,iua! uwnd: unfrr Ih:m tkev nrlunlly ulr, rero II' nu ufnlrlnrul ua lu Iln nirnliuo ur Inr ruulenl. wcrr nrIUnllv rntinnc. \1'r nrr ntiudfnl nr Ihr,mralicrl Inr Jrrhy Ihnl, Irrl In Ihr IuINI IICt'raurrul uf Ir:nlhnt rig urriir u:mntf:rlnr..r: 1blurn,,I b,r Ihr 6"drr::l 'I'rnde 1Sruuuiu,ufun) lo dL+rullliulle Ibe r:nillrim; prarliro:: rd Iho .I.. -:.. i :I:I . : i,i..li- 11 : .ail'l br .l.. If ~Ph ~ ~~p~lilim: t rr:

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I'Iti I'ICNIiP:'I'I'P: 1..AIIr;IJiAtl ANU AllAlilt9'ISINI;-1965 I)1'.'1'racin. "1'6i,: isrv.rnlialls true, I'Int iuilial proluwsrrl li.,l xa. rlrnon nlt ,unl Ih lolr:n.ro inJu:ar1' lln:l Ihe oltpurllmill' iu uhjv,~t 1 un 1'uun \cllu \\:r: Irrullu.rd. n mi nu vurlt ... >tlr. Kanxer.\t. I)id Iluyo6jrct lo:ulv uf 1.6enO Trs{ ILcy dill oLjecl. to cauw of Illeut ou Ihe ol'iginll li.al. AL.. KunNlalnv. }Yern tlley Ilrople n6o lmd wnde soula wntribution in the field (if resarcL iu IILn nn:t of runrrr? 1)r.'1'emcr. I Ilnu't renlenlber 1Ln exnt't delkils, ltul. fnr nue rra~ou ur n u ul.he r Lho t.cdinmo iudasl ry obj ccl tvl 1 o Lhrw. T(r. 7CultnrrlAr. Of c.unse, it. wus an nbjeolive stad}'? It. is nnlf nnlmnl Ilvnt )~an v6otdd uot hnve :m~Lucly on 16:d. Illnt Ims :Jrrnri'v nuoln up hix luind, is t.lurt riglvt v . I )r.9'r,lutr. 't'hnl. \rna oue ildenl iou. Afr. KouNr:Ittr. l.ut me mnru uu In une olher Iltiug, :u1Q II nm unl. 'Ioink to ltd<eo as lung nn I did lnsts timr, I)r. Terry, bnl. I du vcnnl( lo nsk yun n feu' qnesl.iuns nnd prnbnbly I)r. I Inru .vill rnnto in uu 16is, :uld I lurt is 16c quest.iuu nLout lhc qnesl.inwr,tire IhntIlus been 6tou(!hlup. Ilefure I go to 1.6af, hovv lnng~ nns 1)r. Ifueprr ('n your nlnlf / 1 Imc lun); d id Le work mtder you? 1)r.'1'rlun-. 1)r. 11.ueper \tns in t6n 1'ul:lic IIenII1L Srr\~ire tur m:wt- yeurs. I duu'It remenlLer 1101%, fncmy, sir. 111r. KnI1Nr:onr. We vvtts a loy;tl qaalifiod mnn, tvnsn't Le? I)r.'1'raun-. Yes,sir. Alr. Ku1eNr:unv, TLnnk you very mnclt. illlt CAlrrr:n. lUi. Kotvega.y, would yorl yield for ono ulrserwd ion? lllt. Ko1cNr:uAY. ]'esi I\votdd begInd Iu, l)ocint. AIr. UAU'Iront, i aln sntnynn aroacquninled teil.I\ Dr. JlnrtyIleimmmu, ftl9o. I)r.'I'e.unx. Yes,imn. I11r. CAlrrc¢. lfo is tluile nn nulknrily on respirnlnry diseosec, hus donespe~;illc rrsenrcL; Is Lltattaue? 1)r. Tr,lntr. l'es i lLe is resper,l ed. ]111.. ('Afrrr:lc. lit a r1Yent pnblirnlinu of ILe i7.R. Dnpnrlrneld: of i Io:rllh, R.duont iou, nnd Rrcl fure, llr. I leitnann has quile ntt interestiur vriteop couceruinhr uir pollnl ion nud respircdol'y disenses, nnd in emn- wtuylleslnlrs: Atr Iwrllntlon, nv It rxislx In nnme nf uur comnnndtlen, cuntrlbnles slgniOrnnLlY nv n ennsn ur nggrnvnting factor fur Ihe fnllmring wvdlrnl cnndition: Arldc resPirnlnry lnfeelInnn, rhroniebrunrhllla, rhrmJC cin\ntr,ctire cenlilntory disensr. Pulmnmuy empLysewn. Lroncldnl nslhmn, nud Imlg enucer. 9o ymi sce we have vnrinus iLings which mny cause lung enncer, not j ust. tobacc,o sinoki ng. I)r. Traun-. 11tr. CatIer-- Tlr. ( I,vcrl:n. Ye.s, sif. j ir.'IS.autv. I Il:tvo ne.vw waiulniucd Ilm.ll ci ~.n.rcltc vlnolcin~ ~rn:; tltn only e:lase of Inng enncer, Ou lLe other Land, a'e lurce cleallmor ey rero~+nir,ed that nrnon),r lu'Llut hopllln.l.ions I1Lni: nre expused In ore atir pollutinn, tLnt Illere is n lut;het incirlennn nf Lnl,rr, cancer t.6mf :unonr rtu~n l d nellcrs, with presumably less exllosme. Tfi'.Cnnrr:u. Yes. 1)r. Tr:uer. 'I`ho LltinR tLnt Iny ('nnmtilAee Ilns said, nnd 1.110 tlLinl; (Lnl. I Lelieve, is IltnM1 in ILr iinited tilntes, nitrtrelte snlnkin;,r is Ihr l:riucipal ranynlile furlur in Ilm" r:vnrrr. nnt Illr only~ nnr, sir. 1'.IIIAIiI:'I"I'11 1.Anr:LI^I; .\tiP iU1'rai'PhIN17 1116G 1'1! Afr. ('.tnrr:n. Iluw is ilsnid, Ilnn, Ihal. you L:ISe by iu6:tinlinu uf rrelaiu Lydrnr:uLons ill Iruusirn ivadnrrd lunq caucrr, nnd nt 16r. s,luu\ linu' tchile Il\rso Ilnte I:ccu r~l:utinl lu rlrnl'etle slnukc )'cnl huft`, nullrrurlure,ILw~rnnrrr? Iclhnluut,lrnr? Ur.'ITlun" I uvof'nr nti I kna\c, no lllllh 1'nllcrl' Ilns hel11 prndnerd iu rz~mriulvnlnl :u:lmnln 6y IlleI inlmlalinn nf ci;;nlrllo swulce. Illr.l'.tlrrrn. ItulIhe.)' linvcl\rru pnul.u4rd . - 1)r.'1'r'uus. On Ilte ul.llt'r hlwd, rhmlges lulce been prollured in the re,pirn(.ur)'trnotuf Iltn::rllnimnlv \chirlt ul Illnnhiainn r,f Irnlhulu(;isly uro )rreruucernus lesinus. A r.('ntnalt. Nnrnurrruusbssnns,6u\cerrr? 1 h~.'1'rnnr. '1'lu\tt is rip,hl, sir. Me. (Ltltrcit. 1'ou ha.ve prodmrd IIlllfel'U114Iesnllls Ily inhulaliuu of hydronubons :uuunl; 16uso Iithnr:dnr,Y :uviiunls, isn't. IhntIrne.'l Ilr. Trwtv. I:uu nnt. suru au Ihis, sir. I tcould liko Iu nsIc 1)r. I I unJlrt. I Iltiuic hr Icuntcv lunre. 1)r. IIunmr:r. I dnuI. belie\'c' iI aas 1m in6aLdinn, sir. I Iliiulc it. renw Lt' im1,Lu:l;tl.ion nr tmini in;( rnlltrr I Imn in l6n forlu nf slualce. Alr. l'.tntr:n. I thiuk I lultr Iltnl, for con ri"htIn1'e, if yuu \conlrl lilm I'nr nlr Irr rrnd it. for ynn, sir 'I'Iriv is by Dr. I lln'old L. Stetr:u'I. 1'on reruqnize liim as a n eminenti auu hnrily. l h'. I I tiN nl ra-. I r l i d n'1. Ret t l te nn mr, si r. Al r. C.vrren. I) r. I I n rnI J L. Sl ew n lt . 11r. I1o rJw.r.v. 5'es, inrle.ed. Air. U.vrrr.It. Yes, siri fnnnrr (!Itief oF 1'atholof;y of 16e Nnlir:nel (Inuce.r luAil ldr. In.. IlnrnId i.. Klen':n't, fnrlner Chief of 1'ntlmlogy nl 1hc Nntiunnl lauwcr luAilnlr. andrr i/r-'ISrrY, .anid: ".\flrr m,.rr ~ILnn Ikl )rnrn u[ oslnriwealallun, r~pu.nrc to luhulrvllon cf sunkc frum rig:n'Nlcs or clgnrnl.te tuhurrn hnv fninvl In uoetlNrnrnllY h\Jure rnurrr uf Iha lung In Itte mnusq nmmmlrr, rnl, whito 1rl:in dneic, rabbrt, :log, g:dura pig, or the rhirken.^ (Ii1111n1.1u de. Illn.'Iitnl1 lut:runllannl tle SGdistlquo, Pnris, ]INII, P. 4c7.) '1'he repnr't ur thc Surgrun (ennrnl's .\dr'Isory f:n,nwltlrr, n1:ilr nAmllling failure In Pr"rlurr lnng rnnrer hr nnhual:: wilh ,Inlmcro ntuukq nJmlla lhnt olher nnhvl:urros hncc BroducuA nonnnl lum; rnuccrp (Ir. 1117) : "'1'hc Imcgs uf udre, rnls, hmnslern anrl prilnnles lmve bcen fonutl In Iw mm~'PI1M1In 4n tkr iminetlon ol' Lrnn,hogrnir rnrcluocnn by [ke nrlmtnlcl rn1lnu nf polyryllc :u'n:uullrt L)"dr:>t'nrLOna, rrrlnlu mdnl,, rnrnnuotlro nu4vllnue::, oml unrugrtdr vllntuw. '1'hr kfctupnfltningiv rnnrurLerislirs nf lhe lumnrn prn:invd nrr xiwilnr to tLosn adscrvod In cuan nnd nrr fl'rqundlY vf 111C u,luncuunN rnl'ielY:' I)n van ndlnillLe I ru11t of lllis sl nttweut,.iir? I)r. I IuN nf acc. Cof rec,t. i1tr. (':\In'r:a. You ndlnit the unly farni nf Im1,n, r:ulcer pralaed Ims lbcrn by h)dnwa.r6uns nntl not bv Io6arcn cmukr, is t6ntril;ld.'? 'I'r.lun~. Nnt 16n anly. I Ir. ulrnl ionad rnrviunorrnir clrns:s nnd ol6cr mnlrrinls. Alr. (lnlnr:n. 1'uu lnvcr ndmillrrl Ihev 6nce uol. 6rrn produtr:i Ly I ul wero suink r, but Ly 6hoso ul Lcr mrt Lorl s. 1)f. 11 n nulIn'. Ilnluut br in6nlnl iuu ns 1 sn id en.rlir.r. Alr. (Ltlrrrac. 11,11 ri(fltl, sir,,ir, unl by lo6nrro sinoke. '1'6nuk yon, sir. '1'Lnt is rny qnestion. I y iel d back I o itl r. ICornepy. 'I'hnuk yrm,sir. AIr. I(:neNr.r..\v. ln ('ounerlinn t1 ilI\ thee sm'cry. 1)r.'Ibrrc, Il:sl tcns

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Illt) ('.ICAlIPrITI: I.ABIit.INa ANII A11v4;mrlSlxr-1n65 1 alnAnR'r'rl: I.AUI{LfNll AND AUtrIlrrl"INr 11165 101 Mr.IIIxnN. Yes,Sir. '1'ho (ln.vnnrnx. Ilo tvaulell your cuiuwrnl5 ad.ronl, yout' nulllorily nudcr 11 oo sl:ccilic nl nl.nle. Afr.1)ISOx. 'fllnlc is nl1' ree.nller.lion ul' iI nlso, Mr. (;hninuu.u. 111r. RonNnanv. If I wny in(errnpf, I)coldd say tLnt. I:I.Ir nuani- nlnusconcrut. I ltat. il. be Inadn a pn id. nf iLc recurd- TL0 CIt.,turnrnx. 1Pe 1cill trceiveV il auol rlel e.rlnino lr6cl her il. ullmd'l bo received fnr Ille filrs or the re+slyd. II is n rnlher volnminouv dis cussion. 11iuchldes u eCrca.t donl of Iniul.in;; tlint. Ims nhendy Lern incurpurnleil iu olhal pnldicaliouti. 'I'hero iv lio neer:ssily in going Illc,ensl of priuling il if ILn.I is So. 11'e. lrill see nbottt. it. Mr. KoalNrI:tv_ Mr. ('l6:tirm:tn, Ihn puint as I see it.llere, you Il:lrr admitted 16s1 Ille purpose and fLe inlcntof your Iro,do ref!nlalion rult+ is to inforul. In olher wnrds, it is infonnutivc in unl.mre.. Alr. 1)lsox. It ic lo rcmnvo dlr.epl iun. Mr. iColcNeanY. You tvslifinl :t felt' ininules n,qn Ilmlt il. tcas lo itlfolm. \"un ha)'1 uscd Iho tcarllv :Inriii 1.6r caurtia of ynm Irrai monl_- \Ir. Ih\ur:. IIi;t lo inforln I'ur thr. Inupnsr nl' rl'moriu- dnrplion. I h:dt is corrrc.l :eir. fti r. ICunxl:r-tv. II in uo( corrrvt i vc, is il ? AL' . 1)u"N. ll. is rorrrr.tivo in 1.6c seune Illnl. n'ilLoat il., ilis da'qp live. nL'. Kol:vrr..lv. ilna~ cnN yon ourrorlI vnmrllliug tllflt dors nul ellSt 3 1111t Illsnx. II exists, sir, bccal.uve f Ilutr.;atid Ihis, if I Fall you tlii Imcl:ol,ru of rii,rorolies 111141 tltorrv is rlu sluleiueull on Illoco nil;nrrllrv, I 16inlt yon or n.ny bnyrr in cntilled In brlircr Ihey urcv safe for nnli n:uy usage. No.c, ILu.I is decept.ive if III:I1t is nof. Irne, lind Ihnl i- a'Lat.lcoLnvc found. 61r Konrvn,nv_ I juA cuuply n:mnul. 1'ollolv Yom' renGoniniC iu tlli=. 14tr C6.iirmnn, tvhen you ti.ty tlrlt il. is rorrrr.live. 'I`n rurrer6 wrnr- fhiutr, lo ury 1cay of thinkinR, )'an iirsl li:lve lo lta.ve Ilir preuiivr to nlmralce froui. You lutvn to 6n.ve.:t Aniriurul. 16n1L li:ls Lcen madr. I Illinlt Ilial Ihn cuurlv Luvc hclil in Lllin Alherly cti5e wllir.6 I refrrrrd you lo Ili:d. Ilicre aro Itvo :Irens 6erc. (luo iv corrrr.tive oclion +vliirL you nn rlon6l, lluro. 'Phn6 is lo currrrll nu nrlvetliscmcnfd or n label tv6iell in ilself is eilLer falsn or fails to ;;ivr. :w Itcv.nra.lv or Irnr inqnnseion. Notr, wLereo iltrre, is no stn.lemanl, 1aLere tlierce is no 1'ehresculalinu nlflrlo, in tLe c:lpe 1s;ly of r.ig:lrel.les, IlLru nf roluse ynn Intvc, nolh6ie In corrrc.l.. And yonr order In lnd. :I +v:lrnin;, on c,IF'areJie pacl<ag"' nnrl in nd+vrlisinR is not.llinfi bul, inforwnlionnl alits hmt. AG. Mum. nn page R7 of Lho rloriuuwdt I referred lo, rrferrin;; clmr.ilir:llly In I tobtlero rnnnnfnr.Lurrr ltnomn :Is P_ Lorillw'd nt 184; Fcd. Srcnwl 63,pngcfiR nl.Ihe Four/I: flircnit, in yoln'r,irroil,tiir. Illisquulnliun nppcs,rs: 'ru 1 r1i leuc I h n u 1 ne a~linlr truCh ic a wel l k uolvn rool.hmi nf dlrept i nu. Mr. ICnuxcanr. I n.(!rce lvith Ihaf. llltl pc.rcr.nt, lo Irll le_ss Ill:ln Ihr t.rulll, lo mn]tee ot hnlf statelucnl-, or :t Lnlf Lrld.h. Uo yon sen 1cLnl f lurnu? I nslt ,you if in that enw you )vorr. nMIryillt,. tu e.nvrrrl snuin:ulc~rlinlnicnl Ihnl. Ir:rs<pol.uu Ly 1'. foirillmd. All'. DIYUN. I'IIO IInIf L1'IICII iv one of ultr pru611uls, Illis is rurrrcl. A4r. ICo¢N H:onv. 7bat is rit!hl.. Mr. ])Ixorv. 13111 wc lutve one Lcro Lhal. does nol, linvc Lnlf Irnlly it does nolt eveu 6:ne a shdhmcnl. ItR hos nn inlpliod tvn'ranty Illnt il. is srtfc. I t. is n sn fe prnllu ct. Mr. IConw!unv. \Vr.ll, uf cuarsc t.hen wu rrl. Lnrit lo Ihe.tim'grou (ie.neraPs reporl.. A9r.l)Ixora. I Illnsl.slu.rtt6et'c,sir. Al.r. Knnxranv. Aud Illnld is Ihn h:cai~ for Ihe, pnsiliuu }'uil Iaku, isl.hnl, rit;hl ? AL'. 1)ixorv. 'I'Liv is rorrnct, sir, Lha hil;llesl. medic:tl ntJ.Loril.y in nor Ltnd. Afr. Rm:xrnlr. T.cen 16oogL sonir of Ihc pcople on f6atd runmlis- siml, as I Illinlt lr:ls brougld. onl. hy Dr. C:Irlcr yeslerdal', nre wrt (if Lnidting oll' frnm Iln+ ruurlnsionv tL:d I IwA r.nwa to, is fLnl, nol rihld.I hlr. I)Ixon. If lie Lnclad nlf, llr bnrltorl n/l' nfler Le lind n rlomnro In6acltoll'- - - Atr. 1ConraeuAC. A flrr 6n Il:ul a. chnuer lo Illink :dNml il a 1!no~l Lil. Inler. Rlr. l)rnnsq. 1FoIl, lunnY prolllc du 16n1, sir. Mr. ICo11N1nns. '191o connnlssimt did not do nny origintll rruarclL did it., Mt. Ulmirma.n4 Afr.lltsoN. '1'Lc.I1'edrrnl'1'rnde(;omroissiun? IIIr.ICunxr.a:tv. 1 11111 t Iw.llrin;gnimnl. t.he SarReon Liclternl. A9it Dtxox. 'I'lle,y did nol-- - Alr. 1(onNltonr. 'I'he.y did 110 revearcll, aud »ll iC amolntlti lo is n nlliltttion. mnlliltttion of :tll fhe 51alislirnl Aullir.a nlnde in 61us :nrn, i.,t Ihnl. r m uat rigLt? Mr. DIXON. I Lhinlr yon luigLt In1<r ILnt. up oitlu ]lr. f.ldher I'erry Mr.KonNl.nnY. 1 fun goingta) t:dte it np lvillthim. Afr, lhv.ix. As I. read f.Lc. roport, tLey tvcnt. bcyond stalint.ies. I'lley had avnilable to them r.liuical reGrarch. '1'hey htid nvnil.Ilde Lhrt ritalt of interview tvhicL they utilized. They sbndied Inbnru/ory ra- ports a/11I 11SIs tls n'elI ns :ultops,y reports and lesls. 'I'llis is 6rconrl sl:d.isLics, sir. They did not jnst comd, people. 'Phry slaldiwl, w: I tvoldd undersltlnd front rending this, m:oq' moru del.nils t.ltn.n I.hnl.. Afr.(1.11t'19<It. WIlllllesllenltetymld foraaalrnnent? NIr. ICunNr.anr. 1)vill lro Ilnppy toyield. All. CArcrlrn. In illr. Surgeon (;ener:tl's rr,port. tve lind n j!ren.t, mass of faet.s from vvhical u conclnsion is rnacLed. '1 hern is no rlnect proof thuk, cignretto smoking or t6nt, n.n,y pa)rtt of Lhe contnnt of cig nret.tes is direa;lly ca.nsnlive of ctutcerS li you cnn liud slich evidence, I m~k yon tu dn I lvtl. notv, Alr.l)ixon. Ah. IIISUN. ('anl:nssntnn, I. 16ink wo uree talkinlg nbnull lc6:d cun dilldrs pronL I lind nol.lliur~ in llet'n Illn.lt hnys t.h:ll nnyone. Itnows ++lull. nr.Lunlly causes cn.nca. Front ever.ythiut; I hnve renl, Lhore is =lill :1 f,rral.~qucsl, t;oing on trying In locn.to exnol.ly A rhal cansos it.. )`'llnt. Illis ReHllls t.o IDe to Ile Is tIN1 Slllll &1111 sll)s116nPe of tlle IIItCllecJ. nf maul. II sn.tn based on everything flmt. Ints hoen donc, wtillen, lodieri, au~l s:tnl on ILiv .nl+j., tve unnnimoaely e.onchldt Illnt. rir- .m~l /t. ~m~d<in~. Lns n causal rrlol iou tcil6 1ong' ranlrr, a nd sn forl h,:lnd G,rl I,

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151 1 CICAHIdT'1'Pl LAInU.INN ANI) AnVFBTISINO-1065 the inletview, develnpinR Illo iosl.rnrlions for tbe ildm'viow,l6e inler- ciert-er's I.iwe, aud ge.ltiuglbe, nlatm'ial out lo t.ho liold. Now, Ihe cost of nny one inte,rvinw varies dopendinl; on how hnt'tl il. is lo Rnlt. Ibe iudividlutl wbu is deslgonteti to bo interviewud. In sumo c;lsos an individunl I)ad to Ln nuule.Aed five, six, sevnn I,ilnes before h o was able to t nlce t he t.i lnn to gi ve t l lo interv ietv. T[r. CAtrrrn. I did not ask only tha.t. Whnt is t,he averngn cost.lmr purson, whnt is talo:werago for encb one of these pallsP I)r. 11oaN. If you jusl. Gelco the Inln.l cost tutd divide it by the, nurn- Ler of people interviewed, it wonld be in t.he neit;Lborbood of $22 perintnrviow. lk[r. OAIn'tal. I buliovn I get a ditl'orrnt IiFuro frout Illnl. If you dividnyi120,0110 by $1,7o0, is it nnl. $26111 llr. I[enN. No, sn'. You have gol Ihee tlecimnl poinl. in the wrouh place. Mr. CAtrrete. That is possible. llr. Itottt+. You must, rmuembor, sir, I used to teach mnt.beutnl ics. Mr. OAtrlxlo Wbnt was the nvernge cawt per person for one of tbese, pol ls 4 I)r. IIonN. lls ;nernge cost per intrrview if you pnt it on nn inlcr- view bnsis----- Mr. CAn'rr.n. Yes, air. . 1)r.IlonN. Would be in tLnneigbborhood of $2:1. l\lr. Oetrrlm. Aboul. $25. '[7tat, is still pretdry high for au interview for each person, is it not I 1)r.IlonN. No,lILinlcil.isrenllyqnileloo,sir. 1Atr. CAlnro:n- 1)Vonder if Ibe I.nxp:rynrs are )villing to pay tbnt.nrucb for FucL n, poll. If we made at ral6,or:xlensivu pnll, 16t, ro.wl wnnW almost. le probibitive. 1 yield Irselc. ''bntdc you. Ajr. KunNr'sAV. I)nelul', Illu nM. rvaull lu 6eLrbm Ille I;oinl, I)nl I IvnuLl likn In rell ns s~~on ns ynn tgt'.It il. In6;duled--~1 Iltinl< il. rconltl 6r of ~rrul. inlt.rrtil. In Ille rutn;uilla, 1YI1. (ILairn;nu- to grl. Il;o rrsnlls nf all of 1.6nqurAiunvlltnt wrroroeluiurd in Ihi.tpievliunnuire a'hirlt, as I)r. (inrlnr puinlntl ool, ro,l $120100 or $'5 per inlerriew. 'I'lle ('n,unnl.tN. I)urIm, yon may supply Ille colrmrillcc wilh Illis iulfurm;d iou if l~un 6ove it, Irnt I nntlrrston;l yon to sn,y Illis ieformn- liun wns uLl;liued uWlvr n ronlrarl r6f6 oun uf Ihrve nnliowll or_ }r:uliz:d.ions wtlirlt is ol. I'hiktdnlpllia.. Dr. I IonN. Yes, sil. '191a ('ll.vnnlAV. Aml )'ow' repurl cl'i.loully rtnurs frnnl IlLntt nrg:l- nizntion, nnd Ihero is- - Ih. IGrnN. 'I'ho r.onlrart nnlHrl, sir, for Iheir colleetillg ILn iufor- watiou, doinr 16n interviews, drtnving 16re sormplr, codinf,+ ontl ponul;- inh t6n llill4 rnnls for inlbrnmlion, :uul 16en tnbohdiug Ilrese. We Rrt. 1111,111 in k6n furnl of rnw alalist.ienl I:rhles. ~As I crid, Ilte omnbnr uF sunh Inblrn is a1/prnximnlnl)' I(i,l1O(I, llf cnlunr. )ve 6nvn nsked fur Ihae in >rrent t M.nil by age, 'by sex, Ly Suwkinf! 6abils, ;nul so on, ;tnd ILn n+"rall tit;ule, rm the Inl;tl distri- bnlinn of liu pnlrnlation respnnsrs In ;ulv one of Ihe~m tplevlions is, nl. Iho pre=enl liwr, in Ihe'e tn61t.ti. II simpl.y~ LIkes n rerlam nnlonnl uf lin;(. In gw thro; oot, lu rhecit Ihr.n;, aod make sure Ibat tlure hnt-l nnl. hren :InS inruo~islrnry. CI/IAItI{'I"rF: LAI11iI,INt. ANII AnVIi1t77S1Nn--lne5 IJJ 1\'n Imco I" c6er.k Ibvu; to Imtkt sure. ILaI. Ilte.:utvwnr. In 16c fnw' dilR-rrnlful'Im lu'u ~nlliticet.ly rlosn lu sllnw t6:d. Illis is a~ISlrln yncs- I inn nntl is ont ;t qnc"a iou 16s.1. corirs orrordio;± lu Ibc vng:lries nf bow il. ha Irprns lo Ln Illarrd. '1'lln ('n ku1ntAN. Uu yon melm In suy Ihndpou- if Iha heullnman will I;r.nnil Lrc:tnsn 6o has asked umletlting for tLo reotntl. 11Ir. KOnlN.a;.t.. Yt:g, sir. 'I'bo ('11.1111nAN. I IIIIIIk It IIIIgIII. I1n 1'n.Lhel' 1111111':Il:flenl. AB n 111111- ler nf f;uI, lolN nlo say In Ihn gnullemeu, bolb ;rf yon, if you are irdet- osled in rutings n.ntl s:uuplnv s.nd polls Intscedluros wilh ruference to it, wo hnro nll of 16n1t inluromliou in nnolLcr sn9trnuuuillrn IILnt, we will hn ll:ul lo rnfer yna lu) if 1'nu w;adi r:omn inlemsling Iry roetling. 1Nn Itn cn nd.her sub.cl uul.in.l mfnrmnl inu. IYII'. I\/IBNk1/AY. TII'. Uhairontn, let m) slnte 1 waslrtt rtv1ue51,ing itt for ILe IT'cord. l tLongbl, thnl, it wonid bo of intotest tn Ihe rour util I ra nnd porhnpst n have it. iu I.IIe Illtw. '1'lln ('naluwrAN. Yrs, sorll informalion ns is finnlly obl.liuctl, butt wLal. Lhn ;luclnr snYs'hcl.+, 1 think 1.6e.y will ever Im nbin to Ret nll of tLis inforuurl lun. ~Yhn.l rnurrrm; wn nlront. it is Ibnt nppn.rcul ly run I;nrn wuoln u1 runtrnrl witl; Ihi. Pliilndvlp6ia }rrnqt fu obinin for .you Ihn iul'oru;ulion, hlll ron nn gning Io:;enlyreo it cnnruelf. 'I'llc.y n rn nol. ;u ln 11"r. i ng i I. I/r. IltntN. tiir, they Im.an nualyr.ed il. lo Lhe extenl. that. they have plnpnretl t.6o slnlistinnl I:Iblrs in ve.l;y drln.iled breakdowns. 711e nn- :Jysis ol' ILr,o d:dao in tr.rws uf Ihe Itesie pmqpuse of Illie slntly, wbieh i> to vludy the 6eh,rvior:l.l aspeels of snmkin}!, is nur reslronsillilily. 'I'6e ('nnrltnrAN. You bnrn said Ihnl, I tbink, aLout li or IO l.iules. II, doesn'I lue:n; uny morn lu mc nmc Ihun m6ru you uunliuurd I6r. I.rhnrinr:J cl.ad v j he lirst f ime. I)r.11o1cN. N'uuldYOUlilcelnrln:tulplifyllral,sir4 fl;e CIIAwntAN. It you keep nn rcillt Lllnl., I cl.ill mnsl say, I)no.lor. ILat. I nw nut aL:JI convinred rl-liy il. rrls uarssary lo spentl $120,000 bt' ILa Publie l lenllh tirt'vire nntl Ilte. (iuvernme.nl. lo gu o,d tu;d forrr soluc I:d.iug cnlnpany 1o go Inkn n. s:nnple tbrnnghonk t be Nation as to whal. I.he public opiuion would bo ou soulelllim" Ilutlyou hnvee nlready nr.rdte at decision ttn :md nmlomlrwl it lo ns nnAto Illn wholo world. I simply don'It mrdersl:lnd nud why nll of t bis pnhlic npinion lakimg tlns bren I hrmcu iolu Iltis. ILavnlistenedlnitLclr,forson;eliom,..'stilllmuslcnylhnlI:uu rnnftlsrd ns lo wliy Illo 5ecrelnr.y evon, nr Nm Burealu uf Ilu Iladgrl: (vnlll(1 permit the bedt,~etinA nf znbslnnlial funds for what has been rrferred 10 one.l.ime., h6ce, n dozen t.inres ns to obluining the behnviru'nl nrlinu nf Iho people on sumelhin~., whic.h you hnve :drently ulntla n1 decisionou. 'I'otuait.jnsl:lou9.utnlceSenSe. 1)r.'I'r:nln~. Mr. ('hnirnlnn, 1 wonld cm'lainly bavee lo dicu{tree o-ilh ynu on it., bern.esn I Lbiulc Ihern was ntltvplnln jnst.ilicnlion :;ud re:e:on for n slndy nf 11tc public's nlt il n;les, knowletlge, stld hnbils, w il h rrgnr4 /o smokin(; :rod heall Ir. 'I'hr('ll.tnlnlAN. Allrighl.,wlnd isllrereesonforit.R 1)r.'Pl~~nnv. 'I'lle rcn::ou for it is I.bn.t we Intve n tesponsibilit,y in lotms of Ihc d ivl.riLnt.inu of infol'Irutl ion on tllis snhjest., therefore, )ce nned Io Itarn 6ow lo prrsent Lhis infol'mn.tion to people in such a wny tFtnt it ttill 1 ., ;nraluinpfel :nnl mn,^,Lnpplrrnrinted in tlle mnes of hrlnm moPl

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'l8 ('IIlA1tP.l"nl LAIII:I.IN(/ ANn AU1'blll'1'LiIN(:--1ll6L g rr:ll iuailulion of IInrlanl IInirrr::ilv. I ttnnill lhinl< :Is I huvn Irirll lo lur Ii op Itilll vulnn nf ILrre. lu:lllvr:, Ir,lrlicnl:lrly or nly ro1- I~n:~m~ lo 6;Id ool.:-oon: lu Illc Uoog'r(ns ui' Lhe Iluilyd til.nlrs, Le I.rv~LnLly tc.~uld l,n I~Inqiu(; pndcrsi~mnl 6aarb:lll as he was aI.ILn liule., 1 belieee, tryinl~ nnl for 1he 1 ankres, 16a1. hese6oll ti+:un iu the Ameri- rnu Lcahoc 1 hnl, tre Iw ce. he;l yd o f ourr. in na tvhi Ir. And ninue Ihn grnl.lrwan dnc:: nult mind Ille I/if( of rrtoiniscinl,r 111111 ho nlnticd n. tmMuuul. :lWn, I tv:ml. In 1(II a 51n1.y: In 1957 wre nanru roplr51(md to n.csi~l, Ihe Navy projc.t n11i.or in (\nl:trrtic.,la n'ilh pel.l.iug his hrqj(~6 oll' Iho ~~round iu counrm l.ian tcilll Ihe (ieophysi(.11 S'rar. Thul] trns n. Ircmrn(looc lmat,.rftm Ih:tl. Illr. Uourress lmd :t.ld.horizrd, and 11r. Alnr(Inu,lid tt'lln along tt'ilh Illr hroup Ilt:ll. II:I(I this vahlnlllo esllcrirntu, nnd It vcry Ir.yin!,r esluricurc.:tuJ :t rery successfnl onr, I uli,cld, say. We wrnt frnnt AfrDGtrdo Sooud in Aol:unt.ien over to Litt.lo Amer- icu. Little Alnerictt is n'ell Ienotcn ns Ining Lhatl. slnl.ion dnwn in AutX nrrl.ic:t Iludt is nnder iro. Yon go iu :1. (lunr :tud it. is likn goinR inio n cave.. An inlcrcxling thin;, hupllvuc.l. lV'o nrrit~r(1 ou it little planc Ilr.dl:uld(d nu tikis. '1hcre WaK na viyu ou I6c door nn we sl:udod In l;o iu. '1'heSir Il up ot'rr I Ile. door rtad :"1\'(Ir.uluo'I'orhy, l'nle 611, 11mvnrd 0." Mr. DLtaoorv.tt,n. lf my ch:lirnlnn will yield Io um oll thxl, hnint, Ilml. Inls nolhltplu'ual since. Secondl9, I tennld lilcn fo sa.y to ynu, hlt. 1)ixon, liho nlyself, nly pruviure in sporls gel.ti betler and 1!gt. licllcr:ls Ihc yc:us hro ulong. If Ilivc. Inn-r rnoo~,h, I tt~ill hc ou uld- IitnrrI nl r. 1)INnN. '1hntt iv ri_16t. '1h(.(;uAU(n1A-N. J11r.(hui.inr 7tfr. ('tnrrlN. '1'hunlc yon, Tlt. CInl.ll'llltlll. ('hnirmun llixnn, ynvl(nl:ty io yulu' slnl".lnenll you Said Lh:d. )°on preGornvl I hr ru furrcuuul. prot'icions of I Llt.. 4°-1~4 to tha rnforeculenl. pruvisiuus iu I LIt. 14014. It, is ui1' rccnl Ic+Liou thtlh, in It aouuue.nll oil LII:II, r+lolrulrnl., )oo vnld your Iru;nn Inr ::nch Itrefrrmtrn tt'u5 tLo "Ilrsibilily of enfurcelnant." Am I corn.cII in Ihutt recullectionY i11r. IAXoN. Itn~irnllr: yrs,>'ir. 1~'o nrc Inll:in~~ nboul (`nn~rrv~lu:m 4'iu(ivLill'! Alr. l%u r'rI N. 'I'hol is rirld, n5 urva i n~/ Cinll~rctirtu:tn Rugms'. Atr.l)tzoN. Yes. Dlr. (luln'IN. ll'lutt. du )'ntl mn;nl by Ibsihilily oP enforeetnentY Non l d yon cl:lhor:: t n on t.hn t, P l r:o-:e'F i1fr. 1)I.oN. '1'his bill would placc the enforcenlenth;y rulos nnd Pe((Idod IuuS. AlnColrrix. Yonnrespr;tlciue~ofa0l4a:12,1q.? AI r. I )/XIIN. 4°.31-1. DII'. (11'I:rlN. 'Phnl. Inds rnforrrtnrnl iu ymn' (lolrnnission, I helicrr, nfr.l)ICUN. Audil.tcolddpol-iLIL(vnluhr,rnfur(ednudcrlhurnlrs, rc~~lda/ iuu~,:nl(I pr~u+r(Inres n~ I~rnrid(d I'(~r iu Ihe acl.. I'lln olhnr ooe uutc, Ilhr ol!ICr npln'ottrli tcwnld Lv it. tt~ndd be II erinlin:ll prlKrn(liu", :wd by iujmtclivce nelinn iusliltded by (.ho At- tnrney (7cne1;11. Note Ihals is rigid. I'hnlM is on(t w:ty lo do it. Yml jutitd say you sholl do this n.ud if yun (lnu't do this you will have to 1,1.1' Ihlq tine or vlmnil Ihis Limr. ol thn Isnl<rv. lf olh( I Infnrrn:liinn is ~~ irnrvl 'ni Iltl: 1ilLi.I..illur ., n..~i dl, . /l~.il ,..i, 1, 1:.I.,, .d Ilril t'Jt{AltI:l'TII hAIIIII.INII ANII .\P\'R11'I'I::INU IUltfi 79 . in Lo In rurrn Lc r.miprlrN..~f~inion :nul :.ulhn~rile, 16cn yao ~.~~ul~l Lnv( In r.Lnu;n ILo rll.i~l lyl~c. Ynn tcuuld II:tPn lo rhnuI thc Iitr. lYh(rony, if iL tcaa Ir.fl.fu 16c. f;rurrnl rufurcowruLuP Ihc;uhuinislt'a- licn apprn:lrll, ao souu nv the wllhorily c.llan;.md, tee tt'ould ehnngo nilll il. 11r. (lulcrt N. 1'cst hul i f I Iroro i> :(. rinlal iou uf Iho law, tehrrn tvonhl Ihnllcsibililyrnwoin? 11r. ItlsuN. '1Le nlvtho(I nf vnfurrine( Iho rltlo nt iu Ileis cns+ fhe m'nl I'nr nu :ul(quule tt'wnin,r. I:nrll of iho trslmnlivo 11.S;. dir+lriet anurnrys in Ihn diNll'icts, lho Vcderal (liatrwts ol' II(o Unilwl Sltttes, tcould hacn IIliw olJihn.l ion. 'I'hr.1' roold Ihe uulform or Ihey coldd uul, drp(udinl; un Lmc ca('h dreilled lu :Ir.t. 111 is a crnlralira.ttou of It I:rohlenl r:dJ l cr I hn u sprr.ul iul! i t oul, h;l sieal l y. 11r.CaarlN. Ch:tirw:ln I)ison,nueolhrr(plestion. Is Ihn ruln 6ha.h yoa hnvo in wind to bcr.notce nlfeclive iu .lnly of Ihia yca Iho snwn rule.lhnt qnu had iu miud I'nr last.lanuory, or luo l~ou 1!uin;; to spvll ual (ho I:IUYou.1c nf Ihr f.a'In of onlirc on tLe ~i;;smlln Iiu I6n rolo 16n1. tnu tvuuLl ul:ll.e. rlI'rrlite.luly 11 nlr. Ih.uN. 1Yn hnce invilc(I Ihe indnary, :wyauo Ihint is :tilecte.d, tn romo in by 11ny 1 lo lilr.;t p(liliou on thi~ pniuk, fuld an iurilntiou rl~cn lu 1(nro il, snl, asidn, chnu~e il., or elweud if( iu nuy way if Ihe,y c:ut r:ul;y I hn htn-dtn to Fhotc us Ih:tl. I hcrc hnvo lmm~ cnongh luwic eh:nlgey "lhisp(lut- 'I`6nl.iginathrrlisin~as~ur.ll. I lo I lte 1:IL(d a~ :;nr.h, ol' .olu-,o tcn posseJ Iha.tt aml il, tt'ntdd hrentnc ~II'rrlicn uuJrr unr rulc, uu Ihr. saul(1 Jn\. We tcill haco. In sprll ull Ihisuo6 ur (In ,u in riml'crvurr wilL Ihr. in4hislry, owl 1 am qoW,,Inn if il.:n~ri vrv nl.l Lnl. Ilulol1 t L(-inJlca (,y i>: ~niu;,' I u hr Jnteu 1 Lrr" 1 u.~rl Lrr ,.itlt uiy ulLcr llunnui~si.mqt, , I:un (~uile surn tcn tcill sit dann Inld un will h:(nunrr nolt somrllling th:ll. ts ndrqwdr.:uld is mlifurnl :lu(1 trill be palnlablr, you nlif;hlsa1', hul, tcill sl ill geC ILe mos.nrn ouross. 'Phal, kI Im tr:ly tro oualllnppronch il. 111r. (:(nrrlN. '1hru puln rldco its uf luly I will Imco I,p.IIcJ oul. Ihmt.io I lm pllrlsralohy of I hn uo6i.r. nf tearninn? M1tr. UIZ.IN. '1ho crnsrf n f it. tvill hn.cn hrrn sp(.Ilyd onl. by 16cn ; 1'r`:, i1tr. Cu1rrIN. J latn ynn um(hv tq/ yom nlind cl1 tllis poinl n~ In rrhai16:t1. plurasc.nlo"y o~ill be? Blr. I)IxuN. 7'ho scusn is nlmad3' in Llten. As to hotv ncircine it. aill6o tvehavc,nnlpir. hlr. (7utrrtN. 1\Totdd yat mind telling us jnst. w'httt (.hc, farm of nnlicn tvill be in Lhis propwsed rula9 Nfi. lhsox. AYell, it. ts ri;~hC in I.he rulc Its audl notr. '1'his is fho frnnwwork nf it. It. is on Ihu lit'a, pngte of Ihis ducutuent.llcr~~. NtlAXUR:'1N. l'eti. 01r. I11snN. 'I'Ills Ish:LtIPIIIly Ihl: 1'111e. 11. p'1111I(1 II11 (4) holIl lal/ol- in :Ind :nlc(rlisiu.'. 'Pha.t. there n Ipr:u' cleerly nu(~d p r owinanllyy rowinanlly in nll ndverlisin;; mnFon every letck, ~tuv, c:u'lun, or olhcr conlniur.r in nitic.h ei=~:uetJrs aro udd to (he. c.nn:amling puLlic Ilutt ciharelte sluok- iug is daml;(.ruus lo hca11I1 :.ud mn.y coo::c dcntlt irnm caucm:md nt6rr dlsnnses. 11.luts;.ol. lohe smnevchcrr in Ihc fr:lmro'urk of Ihal. Lro:ld l:utnu[rr In~ali_3;. 1lcll- I Jntlt Iliinlt vh t(ill h.ni:unI:rn6l'mnl t)wrl;inr' oml

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91 (:IIiAnP~r'%: LAIIMLIN(I AN1) AIIVIII<I'ISIN(i----ItIfF Ihisr:hc.. Iu cio\v nf Ilm.l.iulenlruuvll, I nrn nnLRuin;,.In I.I:y lo plutc n lot nf Ilta ;;nuto old };ralntd ,rillc }on. Rld., I Irore are sr.ve.rnl r)uvs- lions. IllnlI arcl uf gronl. intr.re~4 l ute, in 16is Innllcr,Mr. (lllallvl:ul. I~irsf, lel, nle pursue ILn prcqw:;iliou trLiv.lt Mr. It.ug'crs of lifnridn Inolc up ulcltile ahu, nu<l Lllnl, is:tLunfIlleAVLv0lnr-le.n ArA. rvhicll tcn, Itusvu<1 in IlILSS. 'I6a1. is Ihe old,y vrr.l loll of Ihe xcl., nv I uml<nsl.lmd it. tchir.h tiltrciliratlly pmvidas ur annvr,yy nr rnn fnt'n Iqtou 1 hn Conmlissilnl uulhority in i6n IirW uf advcrl Is I Inlf, unl'. t'i);hl.? Arr. 1)IxuN. No, sir; l.hnt is null ria61.. II is \vront;. Afr. Knnno:u.\v. In tv6n.11 resp/c(, is i(. Ivronp;? Atr. I)IxaN. In 1!)11 vvhon t6e Cnntrtis pllssrd Ihn Tedera.l 'I'r:ldc Cmnlnissinn AvA., tltn ar.t. Illr,n cnnsislod of t.hnsn sitnplo e'urlls: [Inhdr Inethnds ut cotnpel.it.lon Iu txaurnrrtr nro hereby d/vrlnrr<7 nnlnwrnl It, was soon rslaLlished wldcr (llu prnccdlttes timt 16o Cummissi<m wns followint!- 11ir. ICnlcxr.nnr. I mn talltiug nbnut Iltl nrt oow, MI. Chnirmnn. i1fi. DizoN. I an_t t:tikintg aLnut Illn nvt.. Mr. KunNr:anx. 1 Inn t(o1. I n.ll<in_'abunt prlaeilares. N{r.I)<xuN. I ntn tu.llcing nbnnt Ille a.ct, too. Itlr.KcutNr:cA.'. Let'stnJl:ahont.ilndfirst. Mr. 1)rsoN. I nmtnik:ing alloutnn nrt. '191r..vords °°Ilnf:lir wclltnds nf cumpcl itinn," hnd to he spelled onl. by I.he doctrine of jadicial inrln- qinu a.nd exrlusirm which vvn u.rn fnntilinr witlt. '1'ltis is tLn cumulnn lavv npprn:tch. Congress rlidn't.11_y In loll us a'hnl. tlnf:tir mnlLndsof cuuyrrl.ll.ion \vern. 1'hl~y Ir.ft LII:dJo / rirll:wd crrnr. lI. "'us F7mn afler th.nt, devrlnpnlant. Ihnl. ILn (!umwisRion hnd lu ,plydion vulur Idvrti.isint!. iAdt in nrdor In S:Il.i.sfy Ilte pronf Ihr rrquirr.ntrnls of proof LLmt, it c.onld unly lie vvrono, if it rtllbr.lcrl ru;npnl itinn. 11, wns not wroug if it. trls nnfair and wns derept ivc lu 16r rmismnin~+ pnblir.. It. wnsn't unf il I U:SR ILat Ille rnnsnntinl; public vcn< tnl:nn anra aF by I.Ite Coo>;reQsof I.hn I lui(rd Stntrs vvlLen LLey ndllyd Ilto words "un Fa.ir or deceptive ncts or ln'ncl irps." ~ Now, \v1Len Lhnso \vol.l:t wenlt iu thrrr. we quil. Laving to r:ury /hr bmIlrn nF slLOvviul, its elict+t nn rnmpol.ition. 1Vc+ nnlv La.d In rurrc the 6arllrn nf ihc, lintling snpltmirll by snbAa,nl.inl r.vidcnrn 16a1 it vrls Inl nnfa.ir pr:tr.l.icn nr it tc:ls :11 dereplivo prnnlire. 'I'h:rl. vvns nur ltrnnf. Nmv, witll rrsprrt lo serlimts 12, 1^, 14, 15, Lr.re (.he Congrrts tcnv ngnin tatllcing nbunt specific prudnr.ls. _fnrxl, drngs, rlovieev, nnd rn.- n'letic.a. A1t tlte Ftnne timn, tLnt thly ),r.l.vr. 1>nrt nf n. prohlrnl Io flum it. wns thn Food and I)rng Adminislrnt.inn-whaf. wlts it, csllod tllrn? A1r. Aol<Nlsanv. FDA. Mr, DixoN. RDA. I thinlc tvns the yenr it nmy Lavu ln,u ~IIl.rtrll, ntayho befnre. 'I'llr, lynnd and 1)rng Administrntion, ILr,v R'n.ve tLc Trdhr:tl'I'rndb~ Commission tLc respnnsihilit_y of Ilusr rlnsse,s of prodlicts in n<lvlr (isin,r. Sn ue llave lto<l ndvrrl.i:;in~~ rrspntlsihilitirs ronl.innolls sinrv 1911. They llnve hrnm misdo rnsier as Iheyrnrs ho along tn npltnm.l. I~crnn5r Con},nrss has st.renF'thenrd 1 Le la.tcs. Dfr. ICorzNttnAr. T4ntIlle Congress r:aur :Ilnng, in 1D°R, rern,'oixin^ tLe. ~'horlrnmin;* in Ille ncl, a.n(1 l=ny ,ti(ll rrferrnre to advnrlivin` 11u1' tun<,mlrcl Iln nrf nnll tu:lclr il :Illltlc uith rr.frrrnrr In ndt'rrli:,iml I'I<UI<1"1"I'b: 1A11411.IN/l ANn Ab\'D:II'I'ININC-111(16 95 Mt-I)IYI)N. YCS,sIr \InKtner<IanA`-. tioo(ls,dnl{,re,nnddr.virrs. AI r. DI xnx. A t. least for the purposes of se.cl.ions 12, 13, n.nd I1 Mr. I(nnNI:r.ai. And snbso(Irtrnl. In 1 bnl. I inlr, nhuut. lab2 ur Itl 15a t.6nt 1'nwwissiun Irirll tu pntciprrtlrs nmlrr Illr Wh/a+lrr-Lcn Acl., didn't I hcy ? ,\fr. I)INnN. 'fLis is trur. \VI\trivd it. Slr. ICowNr/:~s. ,\nJ ri;,.:u'1Il(s did nnl. f,111 Icllhin t6e purvio\c 'If - \Ir. I)IxuN. Of a drut! ltrodnrl. \lr. I:/n<Nel:~\. \\'hn.l.'? 11r. UtsuN. 'I'Ilo -onMel rulo.ll it. ,c:ts nol1 n drug ]nInluat within the tmrvictvof 16ut.anl Mr. ICanNr:a.\\-. In other.l-nrds, Illr ('ounuissinn first.Iried to ragn- 6JntlleallvrrlisimrofaignrclAcstmdmsentinns12111rougIt16. '1'Itttt i, lll0 1VIIwIrrv I.rx Ar.l. '1'hn rourl. vtid you rrnddrt't du 11r t6err., :md it tcn~ Ihen III:II tho Cuwminsiun sLuircll loukin;, to svrtilm G(a) of Ihoar.l In I.rt' lu rot±nlnlo 16r nJerr/ivllip( io Ilir lirlll nf rlj!:Urllrv. \fr. IhNnv. W1 hnd n rusr ngniuo-'I rilmn(.Irs luulrr srrliull 5 hrfurn ILr AV6rr.lrr-I,ra antrnolmrnl.:tnd vrr 6acl prnrorcltvl nt;ninKl. r'i;{:u-rtlc~; nmlrr ~relinn L. Rldl aftrr tlln nrl\cna nlutndr<1 wo cItnsc ILre rnsiet I.ndr.; I Illndc ynu wnnlll rnrnlu~atre its In Iako it. if yoll .zlll renrl ihis nr.l, iL i~ r;l4irr I n ru rry ~'unr hurdru lurc I lmu it. is unilrr 'rrl inn 5. 11r.ICnr,Nt/i.t.. Iln(IhrrumIs:li/l yn I'mdlln'1 dothat. 1h'. 1)1 cnn. I Srr:utsr it. lensn't :t I Iru!, prud url . \h. KIntnrrt+,. 'I'll:tliv ri,,rhl. 11r. I)ISU.. 1'hnl is rnrr,rl. tin if IXr. 6vo1 j,nvlsdirlinn tn 6ml /n \fl- ,l`ICIa;v~il/11~n:LNnlv, if tonl, nl' rv,ursr, hnvc Ihe rit"'1II1 lu ronlrnl .nil rn(;ulul/ :nl~rl'I i~iu~r nf ri;!7trrttc.~ un/lrr.~rrl inn fi(n) \-un nlso IIUCe i La ,onln;l al hnrll \- I u rv!"nl:d r:nul rond rol t hl nd\Irl isin" uf :Inr nt 6rr ~,muuullily undr_I' I lle l srrl inu, dn yuu uul ? )Ir. I)rc<,N. 1 ou In'rrurrrrl.,vil'. \Ir. Roen'ImAr. I:crn I'nnd? Ur. I)nc, v. 11 is :IC 6runcl us,rnln imn;_iunl ion is. \Ir. KultNer.,\\. ICivhl. Slr. I11XctN, 1'hi,I itirnrrrrt,vir. \Ir. Ku1tNEanv. I Imi nMsnvinl! ili. ILuI hrnad, bnlI ILiul< thr 1'nmluivsinn is'r:ncin~ i/ i~; lhnf brnnd. 1fr. 1)INuN. Nn; Ihr f'nnerrlsn s;licl il is Ih:lt lLronll- nnt( mr. \I r. ICnlw Ita ~ v. I dnn'I Iltiol: Lhr l'unrrr~~ dill. \fr. hlxN. I didn't.inreul.lhr.ntrnrds, ir. \h', 1CnnNe<:~r. Na\v, \conl<1 ynur rnk+ npply In riRnrn.l.lcs IlL:d. p;n ~I/lb l lil`.1CpoI'1 11':Itl0 ,II'. UI V,JJ. \V1l1:11'1 II \V'vhh-I'nnlrtvuo .\rl Inrrlfnrrr. VIr. ICur+n~r. kt'. 11'lml'~ .\Ir. Ilnn~:. \VrLb~l'onnmur, mlrr \\'olitl \\'nr I Illr ('unhmq~ p-r,vll Ihr \\rld) Paumrrnr :1cI. to lxnlurl Ihr Aluerirnn Lusiurnslnan c,hrn hn tcrul nl,rund nn<I Irird lu routprll, rcil6 rn.rlels. 11. In -9frrl, lin <vubl }ol In;'o1Lrr :tull :t"rvr I.n dn :t aln,ll, lot ul' Ihin;" if 1,., ,cc1nlcl "olnr :unl rr,~~i~lrr tcilh Ieollrrnl I'rnlll l'onnui='inn, In t~ul. ilnnuulil c.

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1 156 CICAIIP71'1'6; 1.A01ILINf; AND A111PIIITISIN(i-10fifi The llnAUanrAN. All rigllt. (luiuR oulaud gell.inF., a po11 (if thn ltul/lic upiniou, how dors Ilt:d I:crmil. yuu lo c:urry onl ,your rr.5punsiLilil.y? . I)r.''u:nn. I Ihlnlc ilf;ivcs as it t;rr,d tleal of iuforfnntiou as lo hute wn cnu pn~scut. malminl lo Ihe tmblic autd Ilotv IlLey tvill neaqdt i/and uuderstand it. "I'hore is uo pomt ill I;ivinl; iufnrnmliun lo Ilto pnblic. 1 f you ilon'L Ilrcrrnt It, in snur, forut (11111, 1 hey will tutdr,rsl n.nJ il. Notv, woctutlrnrn;tltlt frum ILis sl.uily ns Io wLen Ihepoblic:taoepls smur.lhing aud tvkeu it dnrsu't, :Ind cvlntlill nuderslnnds and wh:ltt it. da.wu't. '191eCunnemAN. l lolv dcwr il.lielp you, I)ortor, lo t;o ont.:wtd s:ty Llr.il. yuu Ilave. gnt.l cu publ ic opiniun on :t qursl ion snch as L6e 1~ odr.r;tl (.oc- ornment, sltnultl cont.inur, iln pracl.ica of toLncco pricr, support for Ilm furmms? Al;rtw.d. 12-1, tlisugrceJ, tS;S Ixtrconl., no upiuion, Z4.91wtrmnl.. Notv, how does l.h:tt.6olp you in Ltying to :tdvisc nnd notify (lie pretple of I.Ite enuntry Ihide cignrel'te swokiug is nt huiard? I)r. 1'oantc. I wolddn'I, sa.y ILxl. Ilint spec.ilic qrlest.iou nrc.ossterily nlmult anyfLing in trrms of ~,:tinim insights into Low ta udviso people of IILC Lenlth hozards of saxllciu{r,, rut na vrr.y lur~'e Ilercenla~ro of Ilionl tlid in 1110 ovet':tll. Ilutvevcr, Iliis t nrsliuu cnn Rn'e os invlghls inlo trh:tt Utcy Icnolv nl~oul. 1 hr, Ic6olc In'n~drlu n~ tcell av how bl rongl)' they frel abonl il. 'I'ho (;n.ultnlAN. '1'ho suwlcing uf ril;w-et.les chonld br, tllotved ill fetcr.r platrs LL:ut it is nuw, ugreect G`d Itoreenl., clisnf,*rrcd, 37.7 perrr.nl, awlsoou:mdso fort.L. Now, I dou't lo ynestiou youc motivas or sugl;est nny ilnpruprioty, 7)oclor, bttl. wLaf. I would liko lo know is how doos this fit. into tho picl.tuv? Yon dny You have n rrsponsil,ilily. I af;ra,. And tco rx- Irovt yon 1o umunm I.Itttl. respousihl I11y. Rut Lcin you lutvo gone ont euul o6lninetl n Im611e opinion poll on 16u subjcrl. IhnlI you say will hv.lp you. I lotv does it 6elp you? 1'L:d is wLat. L w1wt to kuow. I)r.'I'Imun-. I t6inlc, as I hxvc I.ried Inexplu.iu Ioyou,Mr. Ll;uris, I I Vhink it vw;y drliuiloly ltclps ns ill loruts of evalual.lnq wlntt iuforwa- tiou i-he publia Lus as a'cll ns hotv slrnnily Lkey, ifeel etLoul. 16e o'huk: prolLlrm or swoking and 6callh. No t.nn Lhen make some dr.lerminn- t.ious us to llow .ro cnn hr"t prrsrull iul'orrnn/ion lo t.ltc Inl6lic so Iltrv will noceld us lecll ns mldcrsl nwl I hv vrrinusnrss of slunl:nlti nsa hrnlljt l1unlYl. 'I'Ln ('u.tu:ntAN. \'ou am et,ilnul inr lir.rn teliat it Iwbliu ultiuiuu poll shutvs, wd.1a6n1. you hnvc lrlunud frum u voirnl iliu slndy. 1)r.'I'vann~. Woll, ue a.ro trying li/ ovnlnnte whnt tho puLliro gels uul, of ILo iht'ormntion Lltnt colnrs fronl erlutllrtionn.l ellbrts in this ltenllh nrr7t, how it is mml, clTectively Lrau::milted to t.ltom, iutd what is best or Ir,ust unQesstood by t.Lrm. '1'ko('uAwm.tN. Wcll,tnn.yltesn. f11:1y6clwilllindoul.l:drrou. 111r. Rom~:mv of ''rxu.v- 1Yill ILce grnl4:nuui,l4:nuui yirld lo Ino fur unr. qursl.iao? 11Ir.Kn¢Nr,nAr. Yes. '1'Lo t h:.vuntnN. I nm snrrY tno t!ot all' inlu Lluo puLlin opiuion poll~:. 111r. I~onNl~:onr. I Iliiuk ~11 in vray imporlnnt 1111111 1. ter, do, Alr. Cltu.irnin.u- 'I'ho/'i1vl:nltN. 11'cilnn'Ln':ml lopol inll. l'nlin~.uq:tiu. lvr.'prld Cn1AilP:f'rl'. I.AnicI.IN(: ANU Auvl:n9vRlN(}._L(185 1 57 Alr. L1tMnaus of 'I'rxus. I)uclor, I jnsl 6:n'r oor tlur:a ion ill Iliiz ILatt haz vansrd lur- solun runcnrn ill ,point; I6rouRll ILis 6o,Jc Iltnl ynn ,tocn us hurc I Itis moruinR. (lulut};e ~71Syoa6ntenlindinS;No.a,unJIpresufuolhisrumr~frout one nf thrsr w.ir.nl ilir iuvrsl.i~,d.inns Lhnl is in I hr smuma 1~'. ltsnys: Althougll n'mokcrn nrc diffcruult frl,m uuumuukcrx PnShuln4irn11) nml wri:ttl)', thrrc :uv, uuftu' dIIT:rcurrl wnuuti vinnkrrs awl :nnuul; nuncmukars, xn (hnt snlnr uumkrrs mnT Lu Ilkc.uwc nnu.vumkvr:. I um josl, teouikriot~ tthul colne thut hn5, I ltal IinJing. 1)r.'Pr.inn. I rlnn'Iknotc Ihnl Iknl I:urli'.id:ir IinJint ol' 16v Ad+i~ nly (lonmtil.ire ia of :utv ealuc lo uwr. I tn.u't sptaitivn111'Inlr odl tltr Inouwld. wlinl. tlntl. is. A(r. KnsNeAIAi. 1)ortor, it, is 16ings liko I6nk th:tl, opprm' ill n. Loolc of tLis kiud Ihuk m:dcos solnr qursliou ill Iho winds of 1lle uroragr, fcl- loo~ svbu is tn,ying IhrI bill fur Iltia sorlof Ihing, t.hnt nmkrs hiui suxpieionsof wll(is dninR Icknit ill this whole pic.t.ure. I)r.'L'tenrv. Mny I ask Ih.. llnnillo,y lo roslurud lu t.hia hlr. KonNlerAY. Ycv,sir. Ih- .'I'iankr. tiince Ire morkrd rlor:rly NNillt Ihc cnnuoitlri Ili:tl mudr 1.6is rrcmnmontlnl.ion. 1`'I1'. KllltNP:IiA1'. 1tIltfl'10~,1F Illloll 111(:L!nnllewau's Limc. 'I'hr. l'unfunlAN. I I:Itiulc tcr, aro gointi lo Itnrn lo (Iait, for lttnrlL. 11'c Imvre gone wny beyond. 1)ocs I Le qenl.lemun wnntI to conw I]nek xl; 2 o'cloclc? )11'. AOIINFOAY. ~~rS,511'i Mr. ('hairlnn.n. 'I'lle ('nnucntnN. AtIor yonr cnunnr.nts we hotl hetter /nkc n IY'rr,s hnrn. l)1'. IIUNPIR:Y. Ar.Ilully, tltnt. is n, vrry iuqlurlnnl Iloinl. A u :tr~aInoul. i, msJri t.hxtbrciulsu.f nw nuitplely psyt6u.ci~~inllv ~lilfrrrutt frtnn yon I swokr. nud yon don't. Also, bcraa~c I nul uuitplcI~~ p~ycltn- sroial ly di II'erent I must nlso bc nuic~nely ronslil.ul iounlly dilferrul und Illereforo I:mt c:fner.r wtd yon don 1. Ret nauctr. 1( . ia ot Iype of con- slil utinnal (lill'orenee hypoldresis which ntlclnpls tnrxpl:rin Itoce pxycho- s<tc.inl dill'crenresnrny bo rol.tled lo differnnrrs in snwr.cptibilil,.t'. l9hnl tllis s111tD1111III.sRys is, 1f )'on ItkrI smokcrs its n}'ronp nntl nonsmokvrn as it groul:, Ynn r.a,n lind Iots of IlsychowHial dlll'rrvnor:+ brl.n'rru Ihrv grunps, 6n1a you will liud u Int of psyr.husacinl dilllrrnrra trilhin :1 KrnuSi ux "mll. '1'h:rrforn, Iltt erl!nmrnl. Ilmld uullur rur.liloliuunl dill'rrrucrs proditre Itolh cnurrr and nnitlue Iwyrhosurinl tlilfrrrwrr: I Lal. n~n.ko yuu sntnko I lnosn't 6olt I. ,1on hIl'. KURND'A:AI'. It, ftrPdilS to IIIr. t1'IL'tl. ynll l111I up tcil.h is Iaqiug fouud ont uol.hint;. 11r.llurvm.fm. Notatllll,sir. Nolsnf.nll. hli. Rounltn ol'.'Lrsms. W6y, beca.ur:e you fotuul onl Ihrro Nv:lsn'I uny dillerrnrn8 I)r. IInNU1,ICY. 11, help4Io rlilr old., slr, our Ihrary of Iclty swokrr>: ~~r.6 rnurcr, nuQ IIlul Lllr,ory is Llnlt il. isdl. bor:ultiu )'ua tiluuk/, it is ~crnnsc yon are rnnvl il.uf.innn.lly di Ifrrrul. Ilmm ~ uon'mokrr. hL'. IfuwatN of '1'exus. I IltuuRW. Iro mrru Iryinh la IiuJ uul. Nrlty smokors got caucer. I f.ivenp. Blr Ko¢anr+.v A lnl of hrnl:lr ~,rl rrnnrrr Nnl iu1 °npd.r1,: cl

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44 CiGARETTE LABELING AND ADVERTISI:IG-1965 sinn obtained agreement from the leading cigarette manttfacturers to discon- tinue the confusing and unsubstantiated representations of tar and nicotine con- tent which had characterized the sotalled "tar derby." (FTC Ann. Rep., iDfiO, p. 82.) since the promulgation of the Cigarette Advertising Guides, the Commission has maintained a close and continuous scrutiny of cigarette advertising prac- ttees, end has been very much interested in the progress of medical research delving into the health aspects of cigarette smoking, The CommissSon, through its staff members, has monitored all cigarette advertising during this period and today Is continuing such monitoring. We have maintained a close contact with offcials of the cigarette Industry, as well as with public and privatebodies which have engaged in scientific research in this field. R-ilh the mounting of empha3is, iu recent years, on the grave hazards to life and health involved in cigarette smoking, the Commission's concern with ful- titllng i ts statutory responsibilities in h e area of the m erChandising of cigarett es hx: ' m ~ crexsed. As a mstuiPes-tatinn of this cYrncer¢ the l.'o ~~m~ ~ tssion requested re, h ' mcnl guidance from the U.S. Public Health nervice on.the labeling and ad-vcrrining of tobacco products. In fact, the Associate Chief of the Division of scirutific Opinions of the Commission's Bureau of Deceptive Practices, a medical doctor, was one of the observers from interested Federal agencies who partici- pa~wi in the initial deliberations of the expert Advisory Committee established by the Surgeon General in 1962, tu undertake a comprehensive review of avail- able data ou the relationship between smoking and health. Thus, the Commission was prepared- when the Advisory Committee's retxrct ns rclcased on January 11, 1964, to act upon the Surgeou General's statement sade in annouucing the release of the report) that. "Out of its long and eshaus- t'rc deliberations the (Advisory] Committee has rcached the overall judgment rttat cigurette smoking is a health hazard of sufficient importance in the United ,tates to warrant reinedial action.' On January 1S, 1W4. the Commission, pursuant to the Federal Trade C-un- missiou Act and to proccdur<s set forth in the Administrative Proeedure Act nnd tiue Commi,sion's Procedures and Rules of Practice, initiated a proceeding for;.he promulgation of a trade regulation rule or rules for the prevention of unfair ttepctce aeta o r prxe[tces in the snle of cigarMtea in relation to Lhe health h vurds Ii smoking, as found by the Advisory Committee to the Surgeon General. Sfter recrtving extensive written data, views and argument, and after holding- p tblic hearings, the U.mmission closed the record of the rulemaking proceeding,c 1lay 1,,, 1'.N;i. I72ereafter, on June 22, ]9G1, the Comnrission, on the basis of- ttndings made by it in the rulemaking proceeding and set forth in a cotnpre-- honsive atatement of basis and purpme of trade regulation rule, promulgated a !-ude regulation rule for the prevention of unfair or deceptive advertising and liteling ,f cigarettes in relation to the health hazards of;moking. This rule expresses the Commission's determination, for the purpose of pre- vcnting future violations of law, of the requirements of the Federal Trade Com- mission Jct as applied to rhe marketing of cigarettes in light of the health hnzards of smoking. The rule provides that it is an unfair or deceptive act or prnctice «ithin the meaning of scatiou 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act ,l:i U.S.C. 45) to fail to disclose clearly and prominently in cigarette adver- tising and labeling thatt cigarette smoking is dangerous to health and may cnusa deah from cancer and other diseases. Both the advertising and labeling reiuire- meirts of the rule become effective on July 1, 1965. 'I'he reasons justifying such a rule, as more fully explained in the statement of hnsis and purpose, are basically twofold. First, there is a consensus of medical ,ind scientific opinion that cigarette snmking is a significant cause of certain ~,rave diseasas and contributes substantially to mortality from those diseases and rO the overall death rate. These were the findings of the Surgeon General's hluc-ribbon Advisory Committee on Smoking aud Health. These tindiugs are- -atharitative. rcliable, and stand essentially nnchallenged. They provide a ~ompclling basis for prompt :md effective governmental remedial action. Sec- ~,ml. the Coutmission found that the methods by which cigarettes have been and :,re being sold to the consuming public-by means of labeling, and advertising. ~-hich fails to disclose the health hazards of cigarette smoking-are deceptive nnd,mfnir to consumer, especially children and teenagers, among .chnm algar- ,ite smoking is very widespread-under settled legal principles governing truth fairness in ad: er[ising. 'I he Commission, therefore, strongly believes that effective remedial measure& wirh respeet to current cigarette advertising and labeling are necessary in the public interest, and supports legislation consistent with the objectives of its. CIGARETTE 1.ABELING AND ADVERTI9LVC:-1965 45 rule. Vve believe that both S. 547 and 5, 559 are effectice remedial mencures; xnd we support both because either, if enacted, would contribute to the Protec-and nidvert.isingcoWeoturtherlthink thattittisrdesrabl~%nd in~hetpubibeliu~erest for Congress to enact such legislation since this would emble remedlal action to become effective immediately. With respect to cigarette advertising, the bills take slightly divergen a proaches. 5- 547, in requiring that every cigarette advertisem if enac~ted,tffio<b d tive disclosure of the dangerx to health of smoking w'o'tld, Such oigurette advertising wni it9 paice, deal with dgar~ette ad erti ingfal~een~ID ?a tiva. S. 559 does not, sion would interpret [his omission as no prremption of its existing authority under esi+ting sffi~ta?s ~ud deceptlve ~g~ e~et ad ~ rtisingi u It was, ~faffirm~' tive disclosure, eueral statutory authority that the Cocnmission promul- pursuant to tts existing g rette . 'on rule und that cga rlatr fo re ion ated the trade K' c~m g ion ru1e the t tlat re t rad g od e loyed in tie In pP mr~ e m e t h P t th i 1 sales met snt ort o adcectising, not labeling, has been the pnne pa mucketing of ~~igarettes to the Amerlean pubHe. We feeL therefore, that the public intereet will be served if he Commis5lon is left free by tho nnte insthe rake a,'tinn, within its existing anthority, to prevent and app Ptice ndver- ticing acts or practices tn eONIDe[CC as may be public interest. Acnordingl& the Commission believe that any effective legislation in the el of smoking and health should be consistent with the trade regulation rule with resl ~t mwi.lg uu's au hvorttytnnder exitintg law with neither tot cgaretteradnpt the tising and thereby leave such advertising unregulated. Both S. 647 and J- ~ uirement ittee some C anges in the eatl<factorllg mect thls req \Ce would suggest far the Con3lderatimr oC the eomirr ttrocding of <nuteof the provisions in the two bi*atement in S. a47. In our "pinton, The first , nncerus the required cautionary *is injurious to health'over`~hile the required }varning that habilunl smoking tite medical and scientific evidence of the health hazurds of smoking. cigarctte sm!'k~ mokinnau r'b~ntially increases a iRrsoou'ytr undoubtedly °it~nljury or dea h n a to health . tncw g from certain diseases, the evidence ID 1633 conclusive 1-hat t Igarette Viln mg~ is ln Eat'< tt i~~ tiys injcri:,us tn the nealtb of all who smoke. Ai e w>ald sttK e c that the present wording be Changed to read that habituai cigaren.e snv , ~ -- to health" or "is a substantial health hazard.° -~.long the same line, "e believe the reRuired cantionnry statement in S, 869, rrgarette stnoking muy be hazardmts to health. shaulh b`p`h T» ~8s thaC"coutinuu.l" . dnSthin may be hazardous to nttes henlthl cigarette =moking~ baen dhmi'n to be, in fact, a:abstantial health >~~g ~ith continuoush) word -'contitmal" iwhich is often understood as synon; be tnisleading in this context, since it could be misunderetood to imply that only tiie chain amoker runs any risk to his health from smoking. The Surgeon Gen- rral's ,kdcisory Committee did not find that the hazards of smoking are contined to cUain ,mokers or others who smoke with unusunl frwri~encS. V; c would ~ords "contitmal" nn "may be" as ased ln 9. 559 should be nugKest that the w ctmuged W''habitual" and so that the cautionnry statement would rea that "habitual cigarette smoking is hazard'>us to hexlth." 8ectiun 4tf) of S. ~17 sFx'csfies that for purposes of disdcmur re9uire- menty oP th ttilhlsibs~~uceUseinhcigarette smoke t nd~rcontr'buteltonthethealh determine amon hnzanqs of =mokme, The Cmamiasion, however, is not the best equippe the 1 st rocif reslmsvbili 9hfnranak'aingast~h leli nin tions ntere plnced more appr' ' Pri2te q; 4T of an espress in the r'urgeon General of the 11.8. Public Health Service. 'Lhe Coinruissi°n PartlouLerlp endorses the inclusion in kgislatice fiuaheaalththazards ofrsinoking~atthreat~oahte publign-~lf ~aretWe ia, in cie~~ tf the eYer to endorse the enactment of w-ould ,nggest that, should the committee P1 .,!I rather thnn S.;7,47 the former be amended to include such an express legis- latice 1lnding. It is our opnn'any lawt regulatl'trngothe matrke ingcof ,cigareittesat in interpreting and nPp1S g the consuming pnbtre. The Ca.aR}frv Could you tell us, did you favor either of t e proposals?

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20 CIGA11hPl'PB LAInSIdN17 ANP AIIyrllCrf4fNf7-1n8R "If e.ig:uetll;s wrre really so d:ingeruna, Ihe (lovrrmnantn vroldd dn soluelhing nllout, thenr." J f. is ilderesl.iny! Ihnl:uunng physiciuus :lud mcdicnl studeuts, Lhe groups prohnhlv' besl. Nluipped to evnlunte Ihu iinportaucn of I.he report on smoking nnrl hrahk, Ihere hns rerenlly heeal w siguilicnntt deefnase iu Ihe Irorcenlage of c.igatet.te smokms. Alost of Ihe lojwlntiont hottvvcr, scrnls lo nred sonlc coustnntt reminder of l.hn healAt unplienllons of sluolcinf; Lefore any permnncnl c6nnge in thoirhabils c,an 0110 e plaee. Sntohers Ihentselvos flwl Ihey shonld he reminded of Ille llenlfk thrmlt of cignelAes and would likn la srr the (iovernment takl` npprol,eiutn nrt.ion. A su'\'ey lust fi1ll of n rmldmm nafionwille sumpln ul' :5,6001Louseholds by the Natioonl ('entor for ileullh Statistics revraled I:hnt. 7(/ percent of those qurstinued thong6t that cigarette srnokinjr n-ns rnon ~r,k of n healtll hn2ard for somelking to he dnne Itbomtt it. I1y a ratio of two (4) oue t.hose intelviewed fnvored coolpolrcmy \varninR labels olt cigateWo pttrkagr.s (and ndvcli.isemmlts). F,ight ont ol' leu- iunludiug 7 out of III smokets - nl5o said they helir.ved Ihld- ol stalrwmlt ol' tnt nnd nicotine eontentshmlld Ixr mrynilrcl on rnc6 haclulge. Ftyl.nkly, I was very'hem'tened by Ihe resnlts of tLis snrvey. I hegnn inlroducing legislolion to reqaire Iho IalmJing of r,igaret.trs In show nicntino crmtenl.'hnclc in 195.5. In 1Pb7 lutd again in 1962 and 1963 1 spons,red bills to reqniro thnt both the Iar n.nd nicotine conlent of cigarettes he stated on thn packngcs. f trstifted before this commil.tco Inst. ye.u in sul,port of 11 siulilnr bill, :l.nd now I have. conle once nlore to nrgo the adoptimt of such lef,rislal.ion, lt. lms sronted n-lomr :wd uurew.uding r,rusnde at, t.ime.s so I nnl delighlyd by the snrvey 1 jasl. vpol:u nf nnd by Lhn rnunber of Lills now pending on ciRmxcl.lo la,lx.ling nnd ut6cr evidenc.e t.hnt ILe Iinru has Gnally <:omo \rhen the clilnalo of opiuion is favornble In (lle i)assngo nf ]nbeling legislat.ion. lu adopt.ing laheling trqnilrmmtls ior ciga.rel:fes I thndc it, is im- pm'nlive ILat ne inc,hlrle txrth it olenr, direv.t w:utting not.iee and n sfa./cule.nt of Lur nod nieol.ine remteul.. ]iirst of all,7/1nopln ongldl to know'Lhnl. Ihero is na risk involved in rrhnl:n nud prolonged Clgal'ette sntoking. Fnr/Lrrluoln, if Ihey rhnnvn la I:Jcn Ilus risk, Ihny shotdd lnr Ilrovld«1 willl informal.ion nlsnll. Ihe rnrions hranlls so I:llnlfhl~y will Inlow whic.lt are most :I,nd lenst kn.rmful. The steadily rising purcontugo of ftllor htylnds sold nnnh yenr sae.nls to me to suggest, that tho mnjorily of f.he pnpultilion is awaro of tho hea,lldt danger frren eignr'rttes hol, either hones:tly believes or rnt.iomtlizcs that, filtr.r-tip cigaretfes fun Irs~s hunnfal tllnn nonlilllrs. 9'llrre is uo nvidence Ihnt, this is tane; on Illo conl.raty, many /ilter t.ips Imcnaso of Lheir incrensed length :Inll stronger tobacco su/t flavoring:: are actatnlly nrore harmful t.hon thoir nonfiller ravinv in terms of their lar and nicnline contrent. 1'his iuforinnt.imt sllonld hc clrarll' displuyed on Ihe paakn;.,>e fnr Ihe I,ealefit.of t.6oconsnmer. An added Iienelit, of re/Iniring thnt, I:he tnr altd nicotine content of eac.ll pnckn.Re of c,ign rcl Ies I,o sf al yd wnuld almnst. vurel s' he tlm renewr,d colnpel.itiun bol.wu~n lunjor manufa.Alurrs In produce cigarrtt.es \Yith low,hn n.nd nicotinu levels. 7'his wnnlrl certninly ho a major nchieve- tneut irl 1Le Ilrolrrf ion of the consun:`rd weI Fnro und nun irt vrhich we r,t>nld be plrrud to huvr, pl:~Ved a pn.rt. 1 r~llwot. Iv(re ton nlr:m:'l}' Ihaf Ih: rrpnrl f:nni f'mAta~l°rF: LAnr:LfNli ANn AuYI1mrIFINQ-._rnn6 21 6otnrnnhitno,while of 111eir 1:1r nnd nico(iutu+rin»116e~~lfhtl n~trd ~oLt iv l l l cigarol ln wuolung as a y tho Lobacco;mdfqlil:nlucls,ltlml(iovet~tn r1nt is tilt doi g l t: le if unyt.ll'mg in udcetl.i. 1 ~ 1 Ic, prolect and inform Ihe consmnet. I think it is most fr.~reUGl.blo Itnt tko aihninislr:d.ion 1Lets choseu to nlmniu sil!nnt on t111R IsSnn,'1111t tf10 obli dnf'yflolipi,trrl,.tlhe0i111(~i<t\F1If;IrP,~WCII1~St6~nAtrSlt<nllgl iignretto label ing Irqnirentnnts, nnd tlle I.itnn is uow. I gladly pledgo uly suppnrt to /.hisellort nnd hopo Ihnt 1'.)ti!'i will Iinally tcituess IIIn ndopl.ion of Ihis vitally imporltnt le islnlion. 11fnv II nl. Ilus time, krlh~sleowwiltva~tm ~lilnrinl L1u~ltnj,penrlvhm bring to Iho Nlrolloe ~ t.he'I'inlev yrwlcidny. I jnst wnufd lo quato p:urts of Ihr wllluriu.l. II stl,\ fi : Il. a:okr.u:rn hacr uul guno lu Ihr rrlrl:t nr '1:1{udn~ Ihul riS:u':tl .unmldnC Is h~.::llhful. Itacil1:111ho'Irlgli,ui:1:sr11in'Ih:'rlm'L1!n,v1.N111:ni,r,ln,'rrln,id1lrlhrtr IiukiuC ~:uwl:in4; ollrnnir 'Phen (110 cdi(orinl g:rs on t o sny : \\'Lnl ILrvc iur:~alinnliune Lnvc revrnlcd is rvidrnre uf n d,1lnllc eun'clnlion Incfm' uf '' ~i" \rarulnC r tln 1Ur~IiOouni,unrrnr1I1111u`d',oCrrlllleyyr'ngllfnce.lha n,lld d/ I t CnIlPllllh`9115 P1111 nl'ill.l 111' ~n y Illr : il ul:tlc ru1J ilurv '1'L.'rn i. n urrd Gn' :I l;uerru,n.'nl prm,unu, Ih°almll,lllere l.a1 urrd for (111'thrr wnnl:Illl; nlly infurnnrn nLaul. Ihc dangcr. hl rlTurls L, h.dr tllo.r wl,u lrnnt lo g"1 ,id of ttl~r riCm'rlie Imdll. 'PIn1.1Jc yon, Dlr. ('l1:Wrwmt. 'Phl`. OnnutarAN. T11:u1k yon, l1fr. hiun, fnr yunt stalcment.. 1Vo want to romnicnd ynu fur Ihn iutearst tJlat yrnl hnve ulxitd.niurd in Illis snbjrc.tl r,ver thn ,l'elu5. 1Vo npprrcinle your prrsence hlnr ngnin :unl 16o rnntrihotion Ihn.l. vou harn nuule. eunl ntc making (4) Lhis pruLlwu. Al r. FrNO. 't'hnuk yml. 'Iho UII:VnntAN. Al.l.lliv Iilne lca «ould likoto recnl±uize.lhr.luo~en:'e af rnn',ollcngue, 11fr. Il:lnll lrn of/1U11 Nino1,:1~ nlrusl~lol,ing'll ~1 wn 1\L. l'rnmgct' hus a que51u mightt foi'cgo lmlgbhy qoest.ioniol; of }'otl collengac, whu come hcrn before ns lollny nnd whom we sca /111 the tinm in 1.6e l1naa, so Lhnt .vo mil;ld. gc.t. lo Ihesr, otLor witnesses wit.h wLrnu we nre nol. ntisocislyd every dny. I Ihought the-re woold not. be nny lenO-hy qucst.iuuing of oln eollengnes. N'Tr. YouNr.r:lt. Un[nrtunnlrly, Nfr. Chairmnu, 16r. rplc~/ions whieh \cn nsk on tho floor of tile llnasn and other\vise nre nol. 11 paft of Iko rncurdt n.nd Ivvonld like to hnve this in tlfe rerord. 1 lcnnl. lo gvl. his reasoning. A1 r. Fino, you stnt.e in yotr first pngo' L orl ''Ignrrtle Inheling o 1~uunni,ucinn m,gnlnlluns None Ix la lnvlle y11nrs uf litlltnl lon Yrl, yon inr.l ndo on tllo next t.o tLe Inst, page : nr nJupliu{~ lnballn{' mqldro:°onla for rigrn'rl.le I Ihlnk 11 Is Lnpernlicr Ihnt .. :r ~ iurlndr Irol1: n.'Irnr. dirrrt lrnrning nnllrc q

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1111 t'nl:Vil7r'I'II I.AIII11dK6 ANI) AI)t'r:;t'I'181N17-1ne5 Ynu ser, this is 1101, just a Ien' nlediral rnun, lnd1 saulo of LLo mnsf. r;nine.nl. utrn iu 16ev pr'ofrwsiun io Ihe l1eilrrl tilodes. I)r.'ISelnn'. Ilr. (l;nler, il' 1 nuti,, slnp in Lheru, Lhme has tlot. hreu at singln wrdirnl nr re.lnlnd prul'es.alnuuI uncitnizn.l.luu tvltich luts Inheu n poslf ion nn I his suLjecl. ,vhirh hns unll be,.n in snpporlt of fhe fnet Ihnt oal;nrrtlea timol:ing is n nerines hrnllll hnrnrcl, nnrl I cnu c.ivr. 1ou n lisl, of clozeus ol' these, nnd Ihis includrs ^7 af nnr State tuerfical sncieties. No,r, tu pnrtrny tha.l. heennse n few people disngree, and we nre going In always hnve Iltis in the finld nf wedioine nnd rwienee, Lnt. l0 1)nrlr+q' il, iu suaFh n way ns tn infer thld. IltmrB is nu equally divided olnnton 1 Ihink is nol. fair, I)r. ['nrlrr, hentunr, it, is not, eqnnllly dtvided:rl all. Alr. (L~urnat. I Imcn nrcer tuninlnined 16n1.. I su;y t.here nrn I.hnsr. whn disngree aud they n.re nminenlntru who dis:).gre,e, and I have just nawed oue xcltunl you ntlmil, is one of Ilre most. erniuent men in I Ilis lirld in Ilte lTniled Stnlus. 1)r. 9'r,ucv. I agree f.hnl. Ihe,lu nre sonte ewinent men who disngree, vld Ilntt we will alwa;ys hnvo on nn,y modie:el snbjeot; snme disngree- ment. ISuItclten you gel: to where 95 peruen6 of your physioians who nro polled say~ Ilutlt thny believe smoknlg is o1tatlLh hazard, I think this ts mnre rle:n'ly a rulleclion of flip way f.he ntediratl profession tnkes it und evnltottes it. 1111'. ('ntrrr:lt 1 hnrdly think l.lul.t thall tnmty would say thnt itf r:ut,es hutt; u:ntrer, Ihnl. il 6ns deliuite.ly heeu proved I.hnt It, oauses Ihis. 'I'luttt isliuy point. I)r.'1'lamtr. Ilr. (Surler, we are lalking e.Lout smoking and henlth. nfc CAtt'rt:r.. Rmokiug nnd heotltlh, nud I be,lieve lung ennaer is n p:nI of Ihal. I/r.'1'r:marI fl rrrlainly is, a vety imporl;c.nt nne. Alrt (Lttcrt:n. 11. ia lo nte. IJr.'1'emn'. liett il, is by no ntenus all of if. Afr. U.urrmn. I Snl:d il l it hns novcr bron Irrovon L6cro. I lr.'1'laumr. Nr:ndcly, In uty Inind IJro rel;;.l iun nf cnuvc:wd nlTecl.-... '1'hn OII\IItMtN. IVUt1Id ILn gwdlrutnn in.htlgn tnr nl, Ihi. Iruinl. iu vimv ol' I his r'olloqn,y Irrd.treen Iltn Iwn cwIrrntrel uud Iti;,hly rer_ugnired )ruft:csiuwtl genlletuonl Let lue puce Iitis rlunslinn In 1)nl.l) nf Ynu. en if ne, r,an'1slnrl. Laelc ou tvhat is prulsm;ed berr, as to ,vLnt nughl 6ndone nhordd it. As I I,rnlhrr il, you sny, I)oclnr, 4hnl you dn nnt. have, pnsilivn c.on- r.lusive proof Lhut lrlln.t is iu 4.lris Iroport. is ;II f:uI., hnt ILero is n en.mttl re.ln.tionship Irclween thetvbnre.nnse,rnntllung rmne.er. Dr. '1'v.lntr. I dirl uut say 4.luet, vvif.h rego.rcl to whal is in the re,porl, because thetre nre all sides of the qaagt.ion, rnany nsptxds of heall.h are presrnted in LLis report, I1I r. iTnt1Is. '1'hn (71rtu<nrnN. 1Vhnf. I had in ruintl )v;ls i just ondersta)d t.lnll. your wholn pnsilinn wtt.v bn8ud rot this rul)arl, nnd yon etond by i(. Aln I ,crong nbnut thn.l.? Ur. 'I'raotr. Bfy posil.iun is 6nsianlly in ::uppnrl. (if Llris rnporl.. 'I'Im (lunucnrAN. Autl Lhis ee.purl is Ilwl1 il. is a Ites111L hnzn.rd if you AIIIoICe Clg;tleLtRR e.YP.P.CSlvnly, llr.'1'cmn'. 'I'hnl r:iP:trrflr;artcd)in, i~ L,'I/1. CICAItL:I'I'PI LAnKI.INr: :Wb Ant'b:lYl'IAINn--In6.5 Ilifi 'IIto Cn,tu;ataN. Now, yun sn;y Lhnt 1.6e.re is uo sc.ieulilir or nlher rcirloure Ihnt delinilr.ly aml po4itively sltotrs lhut lo be. :1 forl, 11111 1'nu I,rlie.vo it. to lN, trned n.ntl thern Is a raust l relal ionsllip. Ihr. 'I'taun. '1'ho ILing Lhaf. 1 suy is 16is. I. i.hinlt Lho seirtdifin et'i 'le.nen nl. I)nutl inJir;tlcv Ihnt e.igsmllc ~ntulcing i. a prinr.ip:rl vnesn uf Imlg rutcer. 'I'hn ( hlAUtnrArv. ItigLt.. Dr. 'I'raun'. And of.ltet' disenses, thouglt 1 ennnot unutn tLe sptrilio subsla.uur in cigna'eta'.e Slnoku wllirh is responsible for Ihis fnet. '1'6eUnnncnrnN. Allrigld-.. Nu,v,riglitn1.1.6ntpoiut,inviewofLhnl. siluulion, il. is t.rue,, V.hen, nronrding to your belief, nnd bnsrd on tho infunuul.ion t.haa( yml Ilnte, 111111. 16r smukinti uf rigunI Ic'+ is a hrnlllr h:tr.urd and nuty ver.1' )erll r:rusnrnnrer. I )r.'I'r;lutr. t'rs, sir. '1'Itn ('uAlnntAN. Notv, I)r. /'arler, rlninrnt 'tltl'siri:ut Ilrnl y4po nrr, whal, .roold 1)n tvroug wil.lr rtqoirio,, tt )n6rl Ilm.l. tcnnkl mIcuoolydy;e t.ltis lo ho :1. Lua, thntthe.ret tvmdtl {)e, n. Iwltra 1Itnt would iuclicuta iu whatever lernrs tnny be appropriate t.6atIIte swoking of rignrcl.les is n hrnlllt hazard and tnny en.nsn rnuaer? Would ynn ugrru Ilr;ll 111111. wunld bn nun way to meet I his I»'uhletn'! 11tr.('.vrrtcn. I ihiulranvuur mi;!h/.suc Ilntl.smnlciug may br;t hrnltL ltnZnnl. I 6nlo tu Ln pelie Ilrn I,n.illuu ns n~Ilue.,< In ~nrh n rnn o; this. 'I'hn CiltntntnN. I nul snrrl', 01111 . 1 atn It.ying in do is to Irv nud l;et Iou gre;llntinds in a1 professioutll field hero Ingelher to sre~if we otighld nalt grt bar.lc clo,cn to the InnLlrnt nl, hand ns in hu,r trn rnn 1'tsolt'o Iltis Ilting. Ilr. '1'errv says tirnt[ hn r:ntnal0 tr~.rsit.ively slww the :r;_'rldl or Ihe subslnnro Utnt rnases If,is prnLlent, 1)nl. 6e is ront'inrrrl frrnu Iltn srienl ilir. nv idence Lhnl. it is 1 hern. Nnw if Iltnll in adnrillod nn 14411 6 rnrl:: horr, ,v6v rnnl,hrI ac upr~r lu wmn ulqrrenal) lu il, tclu,re t.hn Imnplr. tvoldrl Itr, vrki-~J nl' Icltni. 1 he fn.:ta nrn irwofur n.swe Itnow t.hem? Mr. t::,lrrrac. I fLinlc, sir, (I1RI. s1111ethltlg IIIU1 IIntI IItI--III, Iu` III't'It'1,I n0 I lomenu', aincu thnru hns hrru uo ;It,tual nud pnsit.it'e cnnsnl rrla- lionc6ip sLown, I Iltiuk I.ho plnriug nf rnurer upou u Imclutgr of ci~;urtte, wonbl do grenl, luulu lu Itu iudusl.ry. NFhen I.he,v nre nble to prodnreenncr.r ill e.eperimenlal nnimalwby t~to inhalnf.inn nf Inbm-vo slnukuast.lreyhave6vI.heinlntlnt.innni'hy drocnrbons- '1'he ('n.vt:orAN. '1hen IrI. mu ma.kn Ilcis puint. 1'nu cvonld admil. Iltat rigmelli sntolcing is a health htlr.nrd. 1 nnl going lu mlc Nlr. lCorucl;ay I.Ilis s;nno qnestion in n. minnte. I don'I, trant to pttl cuu gentletneu in Im entLurrnss.9iug pnvi6iou, but. Ihe record has gott tu t)n tnn.dn. Alto hnve finnll,y golto Fet dnwn to oonsidering this Lhing, or lenvu it go to a 5- or G-year ln.weurt. Itt seews to uto you would agree, then, tha.t, a rvnrning shonld he gi ven 1 ha1. e.ignrr.l.l ee suroking is n Iren.lth haznrd. IN.r. CAnrlnn. I shoald sny c'Mn,y be,"sir. '19ce (1n.vunnN. Rnll von utdd unL ryrre to t;n Ih, r,.,/ ~~f 16r ,tn_t to iudirn.le t,-hu.l.l.l)e rnvtlls mil;ld, he.. f1'[r. CatrlIm. lhrtil Lhntt is proven, I would not.. '1'ltn (`.nAUtntnx. Mr. 1Cornrl,rnl', m:l_Y 1 usl: yon Lhn u:nmc qnr:~liou! Yon rrnute frnm tnt nnn Lhnl. hns y'i,'rn n lul uf In Il,i:

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Cl(IAIII:TTIT LABELIN(1 ANI) AUVI;RTISING-19Pr5 TUESDAY, APRIL 13, 1905 I'loORE OF 71.RrItF9F.N9'ArlYl:a, CODiMI'ITEE ON INTMRSTATE AND FOREnIN (AMMEnOE, TVasAingtvn, D.C. 'P6e comnmild.co met, nusunnt to recess, nt 10 n.in., in room 2123, R.nyLurn Ilouso Oflicu ~Suilding, ITon, Oren Ilarris (cLnirnrnn) pre- siding. 'I'hn CnnmernN. '1`hn cmnmil l ee will como tu order. 'I'Lis morning I.ho lirst witucss «i)l lro A1r. Emerson Foote. M r. I~ oot e, you mnY Enlce t.he ~ri t.ness c,hnir. Alr. Foole is c6alrmmt of tho National Interagency C?onncil on Smnlcing nnd health. Nuldd you pleuso preseattyourslnlemont.t STATF.Mb7NT OF EMERSON FOOTE, CHAIRMAN, NATIONAL INTER- AGENCY COUNCIL ON SMOKING AND HEALTH A1 r. 7~ ooro:. '1'hanlc,yon, AIr. Chnirrnn.u. 7~ ilst I would liko tn express uly n[iprecinlion to you nnd to Ihe memLcrs of your emiunittee for l liul n'lolved to appear here. 'Plw National Inl.e,rngency (RUwcil nn Stnolcingnnd llenlt6 of which T nm chairmman was organiznd nnd is s'lonsilred Lg Ihe, following nGe.n- cies: ,Amrrirnn Acs:M:inl.iou f:n~ Ilrnlll:, PLysirnl lidu:::linn & Rerre- al.iou; Amcrienn Association of Sc6ool Adminisl.r:dors; American Cnncor Saciot,y, luc.; AInCI'ICnll (~Olley;C Ilenll.h AgSelnntdnll; Alncrienn Denlal Associulion; Americnn llcurl Aswlcint.ion; Amoricnn I'hsrmn- ceutical Associnl.ion; American Public Ilealth Associntion; American School Ifealtll Association; Associstion of Stnte.&'I'errilm'inl llealllt Officers; 7)eparl.mont of CJlussroom . oLers of the NI;A; National Cunhress of I'nrents &'Penclirrs; National Tnborcnlusis .lcsoci:d~ion; 1T.S. Childron's I3mean; U.S. Ollice of Educntinn; and if.S. I'aLlic ITrnllll Sc+rvire.. By unt.ion of its Lo:ud of dirc,+lnrs, ttalten Iccldr Lcdore Inst Ihe Ns- t.ionnl Ielerugnnry (Snnu.:il hns do 'i'lyd lo prru~nt Io Lhir: rummillrv. It pelilinn rs.lhnr ILan Io snhulit mcclirsil or s::i:nl.ifin ~Inlomenfs. 'I'his pc6it.ion, which I nocv proacnt i u you, rnprvse.nL.s 1 hn un:lniumas camviel ion of t6e board of direclolw of tILU National Lntornkency Colm- cil ou Smoking and Ilenlth and was unnlimonsly approvcd by its bonrdof:lirectorson April1,I005. IL follolcs: ^itl

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162 C.I(U1tI!'I'TI] LAIII's1.1NQ AND ADV1411TII3iNq-1965 yon ronld support. tlree slatement m::dc Iry Dr. b7u;;ene f;nllu'ie, tLn Stll/r llireclor uf yunr Advi::ory Conmtjllre lvhicb yoa unldn un Oclo- ber 13, t:)('il,Lllnl."NorroSnnabb persnn dislrulas 1hai.ci~a.rrl.lo slnoltinR iv Iln', lu'incipnl v.n.u.c of Inuy; eanr.rr;' nud Ilwl )'ou stnlyd, all. is di6j- nnll. I n.ny I L is nLsul:dr.ly nud positivrl y.' 1)r.'I'I:intr. Yes, sir; I batis cnrrect. 11lt'. (;Atcrrn. Ynn Snid, "Itt is tliflicull. In Sny Ibjs absulnlcly :md posi I i vely." 1)r.'1vnucr. Abwdnlely 111141 pnvjliccly. On Ibe olber liand, l. thinlc 1hn.t I should irojnt uull tu you Ibni. Lberr urr many rvs(ronxilrh+ peoldre luld or~uniznllons oI:n Lnro repr::lydly /lnd sInlrnnnl. I Illmk il. Iducos m,=nuu,llutl jn it difljrtdlpunilinn to say Lhn.( sonle scienl.ivl, brcuu.1o, 6e di ll'ri:s Iril II mo in his upinion, is uurrnsonu6lc. ()u I.hoollur Irnnd, ret:y frnuldY,.cilb IILev rcidnuce, before Ibe ntedi- cnl u.ud scicnti/ic professiuu loday, it js hnrd for n:e to uudtn'sL:wd how nuyono tould dis;nrrnc with fbc tnnanlice rolnlionsl:ip establisbed br- t.wecn llmq cawadr amd sroolciuk r.jgarcl t+s. AIr. CAmrrat. You Icnon, iu a scnse you tue nsking me a ryuestion. As it Irll,~mns, I mm not on I lle stnnd today. 1"ou nrn. Dr. 1'rautr. I did not. jntend tonsic you a qneciiotl, I)r. (1,n'ter. 1 lcns mnking n. sl.ai cutcut. PrL'. ('AU-rlan. '1'1Le f9et reuulins IlLntuo drliujt.ivo mat'hnuism of the causation of lung cnnact' hnr btr;u foluld, lu:d until t6al, is fonnd, I t.biuk lre, shnnld be very carefnl nboul the Il:iu~,s lcc do whic,h nliRht ;tlTecl. I-housnnds nud t-Luuswuls of people lchn malce Ihrir living in this iud nst.ly. I '1hnukyou,sir. '1'lu:tienll. '1hoCuAncntAN. AfeKnrnr;,.n},ynu:nnyroc:nnlr. At r. FunN ea Ar. 'I'hunk,you r. Cknirw:tu. 1 wotddlikclotlinr.l Ilusqu,AI esliontn Ilr.Iloru. I)r. Iforu, ns n Ir,nii of yonl' rihtrnl.ional I,ruRrnlu uu ,vwokin;, nud heall.lr, do yoln I:Lu:, includo a hrogr:nu of odncotinu lu Illn high ,rhoolvuh.6eronntry? IclhnLrif; d.? 1)r. 11unrv. Ye,, s'ir; lva lcoidd do lvb;d lee tould 14) hclp local com- trnmjties llult. seek um I:rlp in deve.loping, snrh n llrogr9ln. Nr.liullNr:unr. Nolv,yo9lnndenspeenb la(FlnNaliouel Ascocinlion of ScLool Aclministral.urs, isn't. that correrl, back in Irebrnmry 19651 Dr.IIottrv. Pes,sir. Alr. Ko1tNt:unr. I aslr yuu, sir, if iu 1Lut sl:re~~b )ou didn't stn.te tltnt : ulu addiliou I:u djrecl. Ienehing aboW, ibr luuwfnl ell'rels frow srnolc- ing" you sngResied tlnlt I he Ienehel's nse t 6cir ing9nnil;y to get thc nles- saFc across in ol.kor cuntrs6s. "{Vbcu Ilte, mathmuntlrs teacher disc.nsses qrn rhs, could br, usc llmg cuuocr," yon n.slt. "Conld tlle l:ng- lish te.ucl:nr t~isons5 uj);urclle ndvcrlising colry? 111ig1d. [Lr, civins or history te.ucber llisc.uss Iho role of ConRre.ss nnd the Federal 'Prndo Coluuiission in devolupin;; non5wurrsal'n,~unr:ls nud I.bu ntl'enl. uf in4un- Iry;' wnndl.tbntn pm'tof yonrslmor_h? ~ Dr.lluttN. Ycs,sir. O. Aft. IConNO:unr. 1'un lc,nh (in b~oy iu Ihnl nlrrrr6: "1Yc+ nrr lr.)'ji:g (,a toporsuudep(-oplelonoldnvomell:inKforecor"ivl.htil-ril;ld.2 ~ 1)r.liuna. Yos,sir. Oco AL. Koervleu.nY. Ill ulhnr lrords, yuu nr/ dnin;! more thnn just the ~ directnplrronrh in 1'onrrdnralion Irru;{rmn. )~nu:urencourn~ln~rlmd O t'osnrtino, lnul:l.nJ/6i . I I - l'.Il~Altlsl"rl: 1An141IN(I ANU AUV6:IITLSINt7-19M1F 1(i3 I)r. llunrv. Sir, Ihis is n lrell rrro;Ynji.rd wrlhnd of trncldu!'I ll. is rn.llocl iodirvcl.lrunhin{:, r.uu I.ItnL I mu 9slcint; yuu trhnl AIr. Itnnc:roAr. I nw nuti nslcinl, )' yu:u' I:Inu i~. Iloly du yun I:kru L, Irnrh Illee ynntlr of ILin cuwdr)' 116uu1 ci{Carrllrvl 1 h'. I I:ncn. Sir, 1,lon't l:lan lo Icar.h thr% yonl.lr of I hr. countl'1' abuul eignrrlars, lnd, ler. dn In'nvide, the, rrscnT6 fonnd:dion ou .1hich those he,rlde lcbn dn Ieneh lenrn whcd. m'n Lbe more elfwAavc utrlbuds of Rlrw;, in fnrmnl iuu ou sluol:iu~ lu ~'nul h. AIr. lCnltrvr:r.nr. I ml. um sl msx brrr, I nlu uut oppused in nn)' Nrn1 lu Irnrhiul; Ihnlrnlll,Iraahirrlr(ic,nlnrlll' danRrl'nlrnlfarllhoc(in~,rnnnnl lerrihly :InnRnr,mti luld 1 I und liovrruuu.ul1 ullicinls lo In.unr.L n Irrn;mnln of r:lnr:dinn Ib~d. Ltils tn rocenl Ibo ~~hnlo Ind.ll nhonl,:>t sil.uu.tlan, nnd I nln (rnrhll 111111 . Ibnl is Ich91lco nlif;bthuve in Ihispnrl.irulnratsn. in Lllis :ura. ns nut I)r. 11otw. Sir, 1 atn nn rrcurd in ury resenrcbI a nnly stqrpntlin~ brd, dewunstrnlinr Llunnrh my dtcn roururL tllltl. '-sided upprnxe.b, tlurl1 is iufrn'nnd inn whirb prr~:nls holh sides uf Itlu Ihn Issul, js in f:ud 1bt+uu:re.o(1'rrlivo melilod uf trac.hing. . A1r. Krnonr:o.lr. ILrt. iue. nt.l: )'nn thi~, 14mlur. I lolc arn you gnult; In inlllnl s1hinlls nf'Anlerir n`:v ll,lnllhil6,llln l'tor~xl inlesliutthiartrnlntryolriu~l ngrru ou jl-'d 1)r. I lmerv. 1 tbink ~on n~ill lind thd, IIm he,stt ezpcrts in thia rnunlry ngren uu jl. I'hnl doesni ncrnn Ihillit, is 111111111111011s. Mr. I:onrvl:oA~'. I)o I nudrrsl,lud bv Ihnl.l.6m'c+are. n lumrlnr of nnl- slan:llnx :Iurlnrs nncl t;c+lent.isls lvhn Inlcr. issnr wilb ynu nn smokint~ a nd hrn llh, l hal I lny urc nol ymr.l i li:d ? 1 Icqrn. I didn'1. tin.c /lmt. sir, Iml dn you rsl. ILnI. lc: nm~l Ilu cr I N'. lrrl loll I,rrrruld opLrrrwrnt lrilh rcrrl. hrfurr:n:}::rl.ian i1rerr Inl:rn? 111r. h:wnl~r.>y. I:nu nnt sn)'in;;ter.nn;;i:l Ir:6ncr. Itl(11,rrrrnl mrnl. I dnu. l. l hinlc 16n1. iv 1 hr. lrnnil . Ih~. Il:nw. Ill Ihe pull ol' Atudrru \Ivdjrine 1.6rrrp worr ouly `; pi'Ll re.nL of ~lb,ysivi:ins t.lulL disn.qrerd witll lihr lindinos of tho 5unrtcou (ienrrnl s rrlrorl., uud over 90 perrent Ihnt nr1'erd 11'il.h it, J~i lrenPIII, I be.lie,ve. I n ol.6cr teords, {ur e.vai,y plry~;cinn tcbu disat=+.rrrd allh ILe report, t.here lvcro:44.cbo sl;.rerd lcitll it. 119r. KweNeuw~. AVolI, n lott of Alrw nbn nppnronl.ly n/;rmd wil.h it in Iba Ijt'sl( instin:rc, Ibal. LS rchen jl lcnc publisbtd, Fcnyt 6nclcrd off from il. uow, buven'I. Ibcy? I lr. I IonN. I dnn't Icume uf uuy snr.h rnso, sir. b4r. KotcNt:onr. JVell, in fact unc tnembor, hnsn't, it bren hrou5ht. Uut., 1 nln nul, gOing to repenl. jl., onn lnernnlror of 1110 ('olntnis.cton II i n75e1 f---- Mr. ('Atrrxn. 1Vill tlre, I±rutlnulml yitdd fnr n qunsl.ion 4 A1r.ICottNretAV. Ye4,sir. A7r. ('vrrrn. Along Ih9.1. lino, you wuldd me.o}!nizc llr. Rol-ks,u of Ilm 111a.yu 1'llnin ns mc uulhurjly nlonf+ this line, wnuld you nol.8 1)r. I IunN. An authoril y uud a I;nud hiend nf uuno. Afc. CAtrroat. Ycs, sir. 1. bc.Ijnce I luLt :mronfi bis sl.ntmntnts be snid: Some of We lending medical stelinl.icinnn do not Delleve thnt n cnllnee and effect rrlnl9inJ1ilt, n]Poallrtlhrtmttmtl ~r:IntpFnrnt:llnntl r)Ilrldls .losnPL Rerknon of

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(1`Z rIQA11P,1^rlt L.4Jn41dNn ANP :111V41n'I'IRINC--1111i'. 1Ve tvuuld Ilten issuo tt compl:linly Ilnd nnder our nnrtnnl pronnllarn' tro tvolJll ::crtn 16n cnmpl:lilil. nlluu ILo Ir,lrly. lf Ihu lclrly juinrll itisun, tilld u druial anssecr n'hich tsuuLl uutko i1.1.6cn Lrnotnnxljvclssrp Illn Ilrurrrvliw; u'oulJ Iw, ::rt Jonru hcfuru it llctu~inl; l.xnwutcr uulj evitirnln Inl:rn trhero Ille 1omnli^::ion':; eolwzel, (lovrrnwrnl vuuusel, wouLl I111I. in Itls Bnln stlh)PI1L In cl'u`;F nStInIIIIaIJUn, :Illll Illlyl ILn olhe.r lmrly scuuld dol'ruJ in ILus:uuo mnnulr. 'I'Ln hrnrim~ uxnmiurr l6nu tvuuld tnaltl, nn inil.inl dcr.i.inn. If Lo mnJu nu inilitl ller.iaiun LlnttIho cumpln.intltad Itecn ntndee onl., t6o other pnrly is nll'orltrll undrr Ihu rulr. Ihn rijht of IiliuR n petition lo rovinw by 14e ('nnmtic.<iuo. R'o scuuld I;rmd Ilutly nutl Lhcn wc teould rccaive Lrlnts, n)Id tt'o u'vuld hnco Illn hricfs wtd hout orul auI;uutent nnd mnku (lie linul deoiGion elwn ild nnd nrrivo nl, nt conclu:;ion and if we I.Lought it, tcas iu Iho publlc inle,rcyl,:wd uece,,:try, tro tvonld issuo tut nrdor to ceoso twd tlcsisl. Frout there, the order could bo onto- malically reviesred by tlle lwm'Is. Mr. Itoa:us of'1'tsns. Unriug Ihrsli luorcediugs the right nf ctoss- exnwinnlion svonld ho ullbnlnlrln Illr, po.ti.Y' ogumat svllnnt Ltsc cum- plaint Imcl been issuctl, seould it not? Air. 1)IxoN. '.Pltis iFt corrccl, r9ir, Inldl.r Ilmt proccdura nfr. L'lor,n.s nl"I'esas. l"en Nnw tc6nt svas Ilto radiatl cLange tlmt took plllco iu 1962, u'hiclt chaugcd Ilutt situation mtd crcatod anotlter fncctt to ILis ptttceodint;'1 Alr. lllauv. In 1902 vrr, Imd--Ly h:lrkg.rolnul nud r_qtcriencc scchnd tc,l lizrd I linl. nrlu in I Le uitl tn-n af lu u~su II a uno Lchiud tlw nlAlet, I llcro ss'tts ngrent dc:tl of ineqnily Lhul r:lmr. frotn Illis procecllinn. Wa bnlicved Ilntt.nmroequilp stiutdde.olunif tcecould stndy prubleme:md acllrrss by rnla to nu ludml r.) ns n u-hulo I llr, Cnmmission'ti vieu'a or delernlin:d.inu upon n~,ivou pruLlrw. 1Vo rcalizn full scl11 trllen ten Il:lvn doue Ihis, sit, Ilmt Ihis dnus not resnlt'n cululdolrly Iho, pruLlvm. 11i.v in ILn I'ulllo tienso advisay. It is Iv.llin;~ Ilto indutil.ry Illi~s is I lu, drlrrlninal ion of tllis ngency on tLia problcut. Itldit does not s:ty th:d. I.ho industty cnnnuf,;,o ahend Imd violulc ILnt rule. 'I'llen il' IL:d, nrcurs, tcc a'onld hnl'n In isne :t cnmpluint. n};ain. Nusr, in lolr rnlo:; I,f prurodm'n :Ind in rnrilms sl:drntcnlti ssa llaco m:ldn lo Iho pnLlic, sce hnrr. nuulr il Irlain Ilnd, ilt is onr intention ilxtt if ono of Ilmso Irade re;;td:dion rnlrs :Ire, violnle,dl th:d. Iro will talco nol.ira of Ihc nxut-ll upun which Ilntlndc o;ts prodtc:tled, .tnd we will attil: the parl.y lo sllmv c;tnse, svhy 16:tt, rulo icns not a sonnd ralo nnd why Ill:d, rula slwuld nol, :Itlply to hiut :utd tt'hy Lo should not Itavo a ccnso-nnd Ilr;inl: ordct. Yotv, going b:trk Io.a sin;;le e:u:n, Mr. ('llngtrs;ntan, if we sullI ona Il:u~l y, I hnl Ilnrly:; victcs tcnnLl LIe ilt nnntest Notv, tltol'r, ntny lw a curolLlry', l6r,smuc prublt.w Iluro Ils in I hn r,it;nrcllo indnMrY, lu ulhrr Inaou fa1-l inrrs. I f svn o.h:tllrnl;ed il, nnly unr, 160 olLor ptiei.ies trwdd nul.lulw, n. culrr i11 I Il:tl pl'oreding. 11r. liuar:lu of't'exaa YesY hlt. 1)ISnN. '111cy sconld nol. Lnro :t voico in tLnt, pt'ocaetling, but tLry sreall'urtled w voice in Ihe rsle prucavlinK. VIr. I:uucn, ol"1esas. 'I'Iw bil; diil'errno.c t6u.l. look pl:tc,e in 19M tc:ts LL:d.llrlul' to Illnl, linre Ilirrc ll:n1 In Lc ILe cnnuuissinn nf :lu :Irt, Ilt:d. tPll. ~Irrrldll-r. Ilt nl'drl' In II'I:~~~~' :I nnulll:lllil. in Illr Ir1',iriiillll/Uf IIII 1'117Alili'1"I'Pl LAIII:IJM1/l .1Nn sP\P:ICI'I~INO-111/16 (1.1 1:'I`ll. In II)6:!, nml rv.rrrrl. nu. if I:nu srrou;,, yunr cllangn scnv that lon nduldrd It. ludir.y uf layin{( tloscn n rntc tclilt rr"u-lt lo rrtiain al'lieilir~ :tu4 ::uyiug, u\Ir. ISu~lursaulnn, if you Ilo:wnnLhin;; in llto follue iu tlnhllinrt ul' Ihi.~ rnlt. 16nt tcr h:u'I. laid iluscu, Ihrn you tu'tu t!oiur~ lu 6:n1' n ruwplaiwt( lill.d n:,~'niu:,l. you:' Is 16n1. unt rurruc.t.F 11P. Itt.V"N. '1'hnl isbnnirnlly.~~rriol. 11r. Rnur.lc, III"PINus. Noo', Nlr. Ilison, Irl. nu nsk yuu Ihis, if IIIis iv unl. I6o Ilitl yon ronsillrr nl Ih:ll lilnc fltot. lhnl willd. 6o an incawinu of Ibee juri~~dint ion (If Illa ('onnrl~s in your laying liossn a rnln npplirnble lo nn t.oliro indnslr)' and <nyiu;; Ilutt wo luo nut, aldLm~ircd lu lcRislale, Lni. wn nt'e. ,~,uin~r tu In.y dusen rulea for Illn I'lliuru, :uld if yun do uut ruwply witL LLtw, you :un going to be, in out opiltiou, iu siuhsl.iun uf IILO I/nv? Afr. 1hxuN. I rcrtltinly did oonsidrr il. Ileltutso in Iny t'igLt mind I would nut. Ilgi41nAc. I ns~nrn ynu Illn Federnl 'I'rnde 0onmtission lms nu nul6urily 14) legislaloe exropllqtnn tt hr:tul, of snc6 power by I1Lo Cnurl'rus. Nntr, in sr.veru.l of ule I:Im:< 1aa L:ts:r p;iscu ns ~Ilrcilic pusrrrs Ih:lt full in this rln5silit'nliun, and I go bnclc nnl cite to yon Ilro basic law ILnIwe olmr:dn Inulrr, 16c hrvtion G(a) ((i) nud Iln olhrr llossrrs IhulI tca Ilnee. Notv, ts'lutt I Ihildc tee n.re doinl; Lere, sir, in 1.6e. fullest, Is lo s1 up vomo.W itn Illnl II tvonld c6nr:tr.lorizo nu+ro nf a procednrnl slrltlll:tun.lrli:aalivc'llltI wanillns;tuvyuu. Nlr. It,~uuls nf '191:dl is saLrrr lnn nnd I wottld dilflt'. \Ir. Itnn>I. I Lrlilso ~o. I Ihiuk thc In.sc.ylrs stnuld II:IrL- up Ihut indlwlrt' :IS xm'll hts LILIu Ihi~ Ixa~ilion,:unl I IhinIt 16:11 nnr posilion itisonnd u l. lttsc :Inll it, iN tinnud k^II~Inl.ivrll', l oo. Bie.ltuacotiuf'Ibxus. LlIwuo4ktonllli,cqneslion. Ifpnntil1ofl3 src tull;wl nLoldl arna,a rNa"imin:tl-ion. -Now in 1962 schcu y'ou nllnpled 16is+ nrw pulitp, scltrn yon m:lko drlrrutinnlion nn~l Iny dotcn Illlm latcn, Ilu yuu n II'~Ir/l :utyunr t Lu ri~~Wlo Ir,l i I'~Isud lu. stlljrtled I,o rro,,s- nvlmino.l.{un Ily Illnuulvcrsl. Intt'tV? 11Ir. IInIIN. Nn, sirq hul. tcl. I,rynnd 16n.t.. '1hrrn scnuld lir no rnlss-rx:unin;llilln, Imt scr, nlPord, tcr.~nxa Ihc Frvlvra.l Illiislrr as the tnrnua of Iluhlic nnlirr, nud sro go IuY'ond Iha.l.. ll'o ~nw In il. Ihnt r,vcryune 16at. srr, c.uuLl possibly 16iuk II:11 auy uderesl& sr:ts r:rrtvd Ly m:liliug Lllom :t noliro. 'I'6en Lllis Is nu invilal.iott for Iht.nt to lilo or appenr. Nmr, lluring tLis typo or procecdiun., it :,ntconv. Lal..s nppentv~d today ntnl if, 3/lnys tttlre somrnne mn1<cs a sl:delnenl, hre disn-reea ttillt, tcn nt6lyd Illr.w n r.lrnnce, INfore Ihnt, rcrorll is rJosed, Iu so ndrisee us sn that srn will Intee a r,outplelee rrcurll npun ssllinh to uutkn n detrr- nliua.linn. Blr.lLocenvnt' 1'vsus. Iu IninrlnnrrrJingv:uul inlhodltrrlniunlinn af I IIr=1 nrll l rr:,, I Ilo, sril na>::. : : sI la L I sscnrn C srlrc 16ry no/ '1 t\Ir. I)ISUn. S/n,cir. Rlr. Itur.t:lts of'1'rens. Now in 1'otlr ltrorrolling la'l. Mnrrh ILI, sril.- nl.::;rs tcrn, Oul :;It-urn. nr \crrn I l lrr $ 61r. IJIxuN. 'I'hl1' tclrnnol strurnsir. 11r. I.In:rnv Ilf "Pr~:ls. And Illrre scos nn ria6t of crosc Ic:lulinaliolt hy ndt'cru. pnrl.ir::lnllnrvl inn 1.6r,o. tril ne~srv; scns Ihlro? 1I1'. Illx!I!L 'I'llrl'o m:ts nul, vil'; nn ulurr Ihnn tltu.tr 6u;< hrvn a ri116t ..imL~.ll~I f~~~~li~ulinn nf Illi~l ('~ilulniili I.,rrn..,.,..nlilnnlinn ~ln Ir:l4li

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7U 111rpAnPPr'tUl LAnPU,INn ANn Anvl:n'rIN1NC7-19frG Irrl: Iltr Lr:tlllt or Ihrir prnlrlr. A nd )ou 6nve sl.ill ~nt 16is trrohlew. I trunlJ lroltu1mfulIknlil'iI is Afr. Itwrvlni I , I"I'r\ w;I lnn:ur ul~l.r, inildaiuiuh aLoul,l.llc lan;,u:tgu1 1Nr, I)t.uN. Ntr. 7111.Rtarnalnuf'Pv.en.s. Yonnrr.Inhim~- Illejrosil.innLhnl.vvenutynnt hnvt I.lin ri;yht? All'. Uuun. I n;ty IhalI ndmire yonr cll'orl, aml II tltildc ilt is pruftrt t6al. yuu nl'e Ir.)'in la du Ihin, Lor.nn-'u il, tvoukl be clniln n. Ilrnblenl lo mnrcLauJisn n jlrodur.t vciltt a(I srltsrnle laws nmt nlulliply Lhat Probleln by ralmy nnnicipalit.irs. Mr. Iltunans uf'I'exns. Yu.g, sir. Afr. IlixnN. ISnl. I Ihinlc Llmtl if Ilw proble.m iv drnlt with fnrlh- rihl6l.ly, I don'I, I1Liuk I Imt.1.6o SI al ns or cit.ies:t rr going to feel n.ny need to gct intn it. Afr. T.uu.ats nf 'I'exus. 'I'hmdc ynu vcry mnch, hir. Dixon. The CnnurnlnN. blr, Nolsun? 111r Nn1,srN. _l taonld like In derlop Ihe roint of ~irermplion. I uolyd in yunl' Irstimm~y, 111r. 1)ixon, be~nre tlLe Senate committro rclW~i\-o lu tlto pos~ibility nC ron~rr,vsinn:tl nt°.I ionJ mtd tlhn qnrsl ina wna nsL-r,d of you i{ nn nrrt of the Oon}prss c6mdd hn mclnsive nnd preempt nny aclion by other gucernmcntnl bodies, anrl your response to tho qnestien rcas t1Lnt yon hoped t,Latlt it would. Yon woald recolnmend it. Nnvc, at t hal.1 imq yon snill nol.ltiu~+ arnut any qnrstion :ts lo thn pns- sibilily of a prnomptiou of Sl.nte rnlev mtd rrf;ulations in t6nt testi- mony. Il:tve you qi.~rn u.ny ILaurr.ht nr rsuminnl.inil fnt'ILer to llto nrl.ion, to Ihe pussible artiun of t6e f'nnrrvnv Ihat tvuulil umkr, il uniforw nnt,iauleide Indt nlltly thn punsibilily uf 5tt diIl'rrrnl. States tnuvinr intn Iho arrn vvllicL osyon pointaid. vvould ho ;t vw'y clitlicult probleln? lifr. Ui.vuN. OIt, I lvonld ccrlninl) cnr.nn'uge Ilte ;tl.lrmlrt, cin I tvonltl rnculv:rpc ihe nttcmpl. 1Ylui1 I tlriul: yon rrnlly uln:tn Ilu.rn k illy encoiu;:krm:ut uf the Uuu'-rrvti to ellu'iry Ity au ut:( oc by :t a'ord or Ly :t rnvnlulitm Ihe dilownin tcr nill Le Icf1, iu Ly Ilm (_'anRrrm luerrly nrl iut! upnn :t Inbelinn~ requitement :InQ sayinl,g unlhiu~ :tlxtut. a.lly c1tuuhe nr :ui,}' :11 Lil mloe ns lu ntlccrl isin". I can go nlrn} h'nln 6rrr tcil It a tirnl opininn Ibnl. I.6ore n.rn ma.iiy ('nugrt:vswrn :wrl nnmy Sen- :dnrs Ih:lt dnn1. t6iutk tcn :n-r duinr,! nnr jult right notv :nld s6otdtln'I. da Lltis. Iint. th:d. rlue."n't, relinve iur uf :ul o6lig:tlion thst n t'ongl'eca iu lt/ll :utJ. IP:ffi IhM, llavsrll 1.6r. lulc uml Ihe I'I~lsident. of t.he linile4 51 nles A;;nrd il, n.ud il. Is a l:tn' itt fncl. Arr. Nrl,st:N. Notv, oun 1nrther qnest.ion. ihtder Lho rnlem:lkiu{; proeedurc, monld ill your jnrl};tnr.ul, tculdd Ihere Ihen 6n n ptwSSi6ilily nf I.ho >tl til:drs :Ils(; nlovi1wr loulr.r the rnlem:tlcing uppro:uh tahicIll }ou nllcmplud? Afr. Ihzu~. I uould 6oln, uol. I Illinlc Ihnl. Iho problrm hrrre is IhiS. I~nr inslaurr, dnrin~ ntn' rulrmal:im ~:im~ lrracrr~linl+'. Jolcn thr.rr, nllirin.l:< ratnr, I rrwrrtlbrr un u11ir-i:rl noming frum ILn r'.ily of Note Ynrlc, loslifyim,r nhoid, a prn6Lvn1, iullirn.t iu;, Ilm.t they Itntl :<onlr idrtlti nu t6i.a snlrjecl. I6omWrlvn.v. I:ultl:ry tilrondy nrhtal t6:tl1.6is prohlem be rort., sl.lratilm.y iol- Irrrssion \vus I.hnl it.~br mol, nn n. nnl iontcida 6nsis. Alr. Nra..,sn. lit rd6rr \rrird.c, do \'on Ilrl i6nl Ihern 1enultl be n r Iri~~l~rn.~. ~'i, Il", i-ii '.f 11,,. -.rl ".I i/i,.. In r,,ll..u . iniil'... ~10 rril CI(.AItP~I"I'1's LAnPILiNQ ANiI Alll'F.IPCI,SINf7-1n6A 71 ATr. Ihxrrrv. tLulrlnu.l:im~ ns tcn Ir.tvn laorreilecl \vill rvnulnally:u-. rico :tl, Ihn muroo pniul. \Vhnt \ec L:ue tlnuo is lu wocl, Ihc Irrohlrm undrr nzisl iurr law. Nno', Ihrrr. is uo doutd, us (.?huirmnn Ilnrris::nid iu rrprtting 16rsn hn:u'iuw yrtilr,nlny, Llntt nun of llio bnr'+:s of tllis cnuunitlen snl!~grsl.in;; In 16n l'nunuir:::irnr LLn.Ii tcn miRltt In Je.lny ot'sus n.nd thn eJrerl lvr, d7dn uf ILn Inl1rling nde lo rniuridn \\'il.h Ihr .Ioly I latn of Ihe :Idvertisin rnln of I liis vrar, wa.s thnt i f tLi., wa; n prnblem nudnt tl,o pntcess un11 1'oviow I Ind, Is ttlfucded I u inlerrslr(1 Iml't irs ul'rih:u'rl lr nnum fnrJ mrc~, I-h;tt I Ilad etitim:t.ttvl +vonld requirn upprnximnlnly 4 yr:u's if rrsislanr,o w:ws vtuf. A nd so hy Irhitnl,iou obv iously you can speed 1.Ilis ap. Alr. NrIS1:N. Now, in tlle evrnl.lhnk it bill is passed by tlw Conqrrss relalivn lo thn l.lbr.lingof tlnn irnelaq,'n, \votdd It bn yonl' itdenl.ion tu peoaeotl iu 11 w /ield nf nclvettisluh even if tlm CmIRt'ess dney not tnnch Ihat, nrat.N Wotdrl you Ilten intenll to proceed in fAm field of ndvor t isinq? A'1R UIXIIN. I IIItfiN'IV' (Intl1111/'sI l(111111l1111nltively to Ilto tiemJq nnd I ausa'or il. In Piu: }'rv, sir, 1eilhnul. smnr. kind of ntl nnlinn nf Ihe (7un- Rrrss. Alr. Nr.lmr:N. I nnt ir-ril in 1'nm' Ira inlnny IL:ti you nmtlo l'nrrrcneo to Ihe f:trt Ilntt, tlle Icrilrril'Pruole 1'omnli~sion pluyetl n IusQing role irt inili:din!{ re.medinl mrostar::. Notc, I think ns ft nlemlter of this cutnmil Ir" it is uwc frrlin;; 16nl. Frcrrn l of as Ilad iulruducecl bills nt Llle I:nt srssinu nf I'nn~rt^s, nutl it trns yuile u surprise to Il.s Ilutt tltu 'll'ndo ('aumli~~inn niocnl in undrt' I hnsi. rirt'mnsl nnrr:<, ,rn fenlinl; tlutt IMrnlun uf Ilin rnrl. vcn trrro :tllt.mhliur", to movr, we ahuuld 6nvontdo bt'.cu innrfe rwl IciLlt :d. ILall prrinl. Noo, il. ~rliuld :.orm lu mo Ilcit, lu snp!~rFl, /lrnt Ilin F(vlcl'nl'I1'nrla Couwti=,irat plnvrll n.-londiu;, is IruoIh a fnir slalomrnlas f:u' :tv I6n MrndM'c.v nf ("onrrrrrtq :n'a ruurrruott Irrrnnsa sulun of us Lnd Lills Irn :tt /hr lusl sv~siun. I lu.ve you uny taaumrnl. nInl ire I o Ih:d.? All'. I)icon, I inraut Ilr:tl, ::ir, lurrlciu., lqtrktv:trds fol' pr:lclitnlly Ilte pnslRl/yenrs, wr. Iravn Ilnd ut lrrnldrm \\'illt Ihis iwhinlUy, nnd tl~n 6:ccn 1rl:t,yrd n. Ir1idinr,; roM iu Illat rvqprtI II'/~In, In nlrni;dhlrn nut sirnw nf 16rnn problrlrrv. 1 snirl iu 111.1, slnlcutrnl il' %mm will rrrnll 16n"I;tr drrh}" n.nrl Lllnl. tt'n got Ihn niJnslry Lu ynitt rvprr,r.ulnl.iouv ;is In tvhirL unn lntd Ihn nro:~d- or Ihc Ioasl. lar uio.nl.ino in il.. I tlid not hnvn Ilr,tt. itl Ltind teil6 rrsprr.l. 1'hn bills, sir tchra I nmclo the ul:demrul. ltl r. N vl,sr:n. 791an1c ynu. Nolc, relnlivn to InbeI. think ILern is a qnuslion in tLo minds nf Ihu Atrn,lmrs trr t°ungrcns us In Iwtv Gtr 16n Mivlrrnl 'I'redu l'om- rni<r:ion wn~; inlrnJrcl lo t;'n lP y II'.ivlalit'n inlcut, if out. 1hY exntdInn- tNnpo.. Nulc, in Ihrv inst:mrr nf lahrlinl! of n Irulll.- ul' \cltislc\' I knottul' mnl}y I"+olde Ic6n m:n' Ilnt-n I;nun Io /hvir ~rnve driid:iap; too wut'It \vlii>Icy. 'P6e.v m:tl' Iricn ru,loqod it nn Iln+ tcny, Irul. Ilie tint, i' ' 1Ylutl. Lns Ilie l~rdrral 'I'rniln Unuuuivsinu duurp in rr;.urd lu Lrlin~ of n 6otlle r~f w6i,dcy lu idt'nlifv 16o IwSsibilil>' Ihnl }'nu m:i)' h:nu:wlerunis of Ihn livrr ur sun:rllllnt," llkn 1lml.'R \Ir. IltsnN. Wn lwinlyd anl in omt' rrlrnl'IIll:tl16r t'on;.rr"s hns ns~isp~uvll 16i:: pndrlrut lu Illv :1l, odtn1'1'rl~ I livi5inn nf Ihr I I,ti.'ll.'mu- II i:~; nmd auP Ir:'oLlrtn n116o Vr4ornl I'r:nlo 1'imuni

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'f2 CIli:lnls"r'1'K IAIIP:LINII AN11 .AII\'I:It'I'ISIN(i---Itlllu nry 22, Illlik (7.!) 10.11, 6:111 3'!), lNlcrrnlyd p:u'Lio.v eerre Ihcronflcr naunlevl an npptq'llwily Ile p:u9.icip::Ir in Iht VI'nrrrellRa; Ilvuu>;h fhe enLmisvlon uf u'rltleu eluhl, vhw;a nud urtiuuirnt uud lu nplu:Ir IuIJ rsprrus ornlly LhcIr vhwM Iln I/l llle prupn,.rd Itldra :mJ lu sllgl;v.vl. revisluus Ihrr,.al' :uul mualdmenl.a lunl nddi- Ilouv Ihorclu. lu udupllug Illis Itulr, I.IIr Uulnml.nlvn hnR glven Jue cuu>;Iqern- Iluu in nll nurh rlrox, tLNu ntul +u'I;ulurnl Ingrlhrr reII11 IIII uIh/r 1'1Irvnlll. mnl Irru af fncl. lun, polh-y nuJ tilncrrlluu. I'AU. L. TLo IS,nuuL+.v6m, uu Ilu, Inlsla ul' Ibe Ilndlu/;x mntiu Ilv Il lu /111u ptn- Crrdlnl;, nn nett fUrlll Ili Ille Ilt'l'u:npRny111C SLI/rn1f91I. rlf 1111419 R1111 y'llrl/11f/C ef 77udc Ilr/;ulnliuu Itnlr, hcruhy 1:1'n:l:l:innlru :In u'I'rnOR Itrtinhtlion ltuln iln llvlrrlulnnl.inn thnt lu ruuue(Ilun Irlih Ihe ule, uaerlng fnr snle, ur Jislrhntinn lu romnurm (nn "(.nuuurrr:." La drllnvd iu Ihr Frdrrul '1'1'llde OomnllY.Wun Act) uf cIRnnllry II. lu ml uuhJr ur I1rroVlh'r url (ir VrnrIlrr Ivllhin Ih:. uRnnlnR uf Srrlluu G,d' lhr I.rdcrnl 7S"nJn 1'auuulu.viun :\rI. ( If. ll.;i.11, gib) lo fnll lu Illnrlnvc., vk.nrly uuel PrumhumllY, Iu ull mivrrli.vhin mui enl rrrry pnrk, hus, rnrtuN or ulhCr re.nlnlnrr lu whlrh rll;nl'rllou m'c nald In Ihr vou.uu:hlR GNklln Ilvli. rl,:- OI'ollr n:uultlug Itl ,ILLln:rl'u11Y t0 he111111 nlul uply et111Nr tlCalh fl'Inll VnnOrr 111111 ul llrr dlurnnre. IAn.:l, irur InuI pusnvuf Ihia lpt1r; 11/ "I:Ignrol l,+' mrw:n nuy rull uf Inhnrrn wru1pP'd IN pu ytr ur nthrrwtxu ruuuuuuic runsidured :t riR:lrclte.. (2) 'AJvarlkin4" iee'Inelrs nll rutliu :mll luleri.viem PUmm:9l'I.IIR, IICWn- ynprr Rml uull;axlur. ntlvrrli.rlneulv, Lillbnnrds, In:alrrn, Rlgns dnnlu, mntrh. Luulc ntlrcrt.i.vlua. Puild-uf-sn Io dinDluy Innf,rial, ::nel nll athrr tvNl I en nr nlLcr welrriW w:rJ for promulinR the nnlr ur ruusmuPlluu uf ciRlu'ollre hnt drv uul iurlutlr lilr Inheliu;; uf Inlrkv. huctx, rnrluus nud olhrr eunlniuelv iu u'hl¢h rlg:nrllr.. nre sulel to Ihn rauaumlug, VNNIic. I'An. 1. In Ihn rmnt Ihnt nuy persun nnLjrrt le. Ihis Itulr In M Iihe apinlml Ihnt u:.n or rhan/;rq tundilious nf 61rt ar I:IIr, Ibn publir h:lortut., nr sPrrint clr- rnnrvl:lnrru reqnil'r Lhul. 11m ltlllr Lr wisprndrJ. mudilird, vaire.J, ar rrpr.nlyd ns 14. hiu:, or ulhrrni.ae nlirrr:l nr :umutlyd, kue'h prr.<nu wuy lilr udlh Ilu Sorrrlory ,tf Ilin Oum:uizvin n laI111u11 lu rruDru (Iliu rule-m:dtiug PrnrrrJllll:, slnlinit Ihr rin:n/rr.v drsired nlul Ihc grunu:iv Ihrrol'ur. 'I'hr l'ounulvviou will tlrl. nn Ihe Ixdllfuu ns prut'IJr:I In Srrliun 1.11n or Ihc (1nm:nistde.n'M I'rurrtl:uvv ro:,l Itulo-: 'd 1'ru.-I Irr. 1'en. G. I:xerpt a91h rrulnrt to nelverlisiua, Iilin Rnle shull hnromr rlrrrl itr nn .luunar.l' I, 1lMF, 1'nR. n. 1A-iI6 m..prrt In mlrrrllxln{q Ihiv liulr k6nll I+oruu:n rf¢Ctire ou JNIy 1, IUG:,; prnritlrJ, hutrrror, Illnt Ihc ('ummivvltm will rnlrrtnin utl nPPlirnlim: Ilird Prinr lo Aln,r I, IUItG, I¢' uuy iulrrlvlrJ p:uiy Ill panlPr'nc Ihc raerlirc dnlc ur oLLrrwi.w .ucp,ud. wutlify, or nLr~~~alr Ihc prvi.Iulen nf Ihe lf Wr its In udrorlL.iuR uPnn n vhuwiug or xunc ( lwuqr hl tirtuma:mrrs nv tU.luvlafy Ruell rrqunvlwl nrliou Iu Ihr pul/lle Interrst. Lv.mlyd-.imlr2^, Iflltt. I[y Ihn Onmmissiml. duRnsu 1V. Sur:A, Sccrctnrp. (Nnrn.-'1'hn arrnlnpn.nyin;; st.nlelncnt (IF basis nnd pnrpo4e nf rulo hnsbrlnl/lnc.e+ll in 1:6econmliLtrefiles.) '1'6e (7u,.u:nclN. Mr. Cllairnlan, ynll reftrred to fhe varions prn- po,v;tls tLIAI'. Luve. Imeu inlrndaced in tlle Ilonsn n.nd trforred to the aomluillnr. lIn.ve yuu nul1 coucludrd vrilllin rrrrnt da.ys a preseul:e- tiurt lo IhI rolmnitioe? Mr. IIIxoN. YoS, ~ir, Innl nhnnt. :t vrrrla nRo yrslerdny I Jr.5lilirll. I71e Ctl.ulinrnN. 9'6nre ;nn I.wo Lills pcudiny,r befuru (.he bufly. (hlo of Illfrn which has br.o rnllyd In tq)t nl.lonlinn 6y Ilm dislinguishrd ch:lirnlnu of ulu' ruunlerpnrt, e'.aunlitler, I1ne Connnlrr,e (loluulitleo of I6n Scunlr, S As n nln.lAo.r ul' fucl, In Ivns ruurleous ennnnh lu ronko a copy uf it avaiLLble to we IugmlJler wilh llle slatemr.ld. 1hul. ht. mullr. in IIII recunl nli f Ile Linlr ul' il+ iul rudnr.f.inn. in v'il.vv of Ihr, fnt;t th:ll, w'verol hills hull Lrf.n inlrudncetl and prullinh 6:furr` Illr roululiltrr, I diil nnl inirudm'r il, luul ~a rxlllninrll I11(iAltt;19'11 LAIiRIdNlI \Fn AU\"V:It'1'ISIN(L--111115 1.; I nm slu'e qou nuwt lLinr hull :rll uppnrlnnity to uoauneut oll Lhe Sonnl.nt's pmpoSaL . Mr. J/IxeN I uludn nAatenu.nL I Ilere, it fornlal sl.atement, and if it is II10 CIIRII'111611's t1eS11'll, I will firniah n t'.opy of that for this record. IL is Ilu6 it vory nxlousivu slltl.nwcnl: uu (lie 1.\ca bills thnt. \vern pund- inl; bfforn Illo (luwutnrew (:ulnulil lr: of Ihn (tiennla. '1'6n Cn winlnn. And yon r.umuteutnd on Unt6 ef tllelnl Afr.lhxoN. (Jn bulL of t.hcm--5. GLA and S. 5,17. `I'llo (hlAnlnlvN. lf tltav is un ubjeeliou, I LLiuk it sllotlld bo in- slnded ia lho reuurd. lmyself w'uuld IiltotoLaceit. (1'he ~tn.lrmnnt rol'crrell Ltt fnllu\vs:) f1TA'rICMMNr r1Y I'Aill. IlANn 1/1Y/1N, I;nAIRMAN, A'L:nBRAr, TNAnr. COnltfrnNlnN hlr. Ohulruuul, In rr~lwtuvn tn y'nnr hlvllntinn, I nm plennned to niNMnr on beLnlf nf i.ht Irrdrnd '1'rndr Comnllwulnn nnd Prrntnlt to fhn cumtnitlre tlw 1'.nnnninann'n vlrwn un N. 5, 17 nnd N. LGII. S. Gf7 rrrilon Ilntl. "'I'ho (:uN/:rrns herrhy Iluds nm1 tlrrlnrrs Illnt Lhr mlre- slrletelt pranwiiun luld ndvrrlisine nf cit;nrM.lrs In inlerslnte ennmlrne, IN the IiFht of lhe: rnnvln"irc crltlrucr Ihnt .'IRnxrllr :anukiug Is InJnrian~ I.e, henlih. rounl.ltuten a Rrnve thrent tn (he public welfnrc;' nn(l Lrnviden that "The Frll- .rnl'1'tnllo f:ummisulun, a'il.h Ihr r:wpernliau nr lhr Strl'etnry nt Ilrnith yhle- evlluuI nuel 1Vrlfnre, Rhnil r:dnLllah Nnrh stnn:lardx m::i requlremenls for tlte Inhrtlug nud ndv(.rtiuiul; nf riRnrrfle:n tvld,h are hl rnlnmrree ns it nuty drem mressnrP lu prulrrt fhc Public heldth-" 1tlil.h rrvPrcl to, Ibr Inb,liu{ ol' riRnrotlrs, IIlu pruvitirtl I:h:dI vnrh M:mAnrdn :md nvluiremrnl., "rhall blrludo fhr roqnirrnRnl Ihnt rnrh lutrkngr or rnnlninnr in whirh riFlnrrllu,~ bl rnuuurrrr mr ul7rr,J fur nalt lo ruNaunrr, hren' n rk'nr nnd Jinlinrl I::brl whlrk I/1 wminiuv Ihr fnllnwiue wurdu: 'Ctilllinn--llnhihml SmokhlF: I. INJnI'iouv lu Ilrnllh; unJ ISI .rl.v forlll Ihc nvernf:c ,virld ur other illtlex, eor eoo 'I: iln':Itl:ilnlll'a nGrnt I:r Ilr fonlntl III 111e N111111:e nr Illr eil:arrlle.4 nnlnbu.d In >aur11 parla:f:r ur runtnin:::" 9'hr 1,111 elrllurs I.ilr irlvl "Inrrlull- nntrd ngrut" ns "any RnhNlnnte folnul In eigarelte stnnke whirh, ne dr(ermhtml by Il:r Oouuulvslon, Irluls lo clnltrihltlr In Ihr toctlirnl h:lvnrdn of nmuking" \Vifh rruprrl. In utivnrllRinl;. Ihr hill Pn'rillrw Ihnt RurA slmltlnreW mIA re- ynlrevurnls uhRll "/1) Prorillc that rnrh riR:ll'rtln nllverlisemrld' rnntnin Ihc fnlltnvill/; "urniul;: 'l'anl.luu--Ilnbitnnl 14Snrrlle Smokiug Is lNJnrlou9 to IIru111P; mld 12) Irrnr'iJr fur Ihr 1Ihuiunllun nr nll udvrrlisiult nlnllrr .cWrh pru- Irndx I": u:nkc ritfarrlle vwnkiun nltrnclivr Ie: rhildrmv" It Iv I tidcel thal: nn)' riy;urrll.c IulrlrnFC nr vaulninrr nr rl4m'rlle ndvrr/iwn:rnl. vhirh fa1W In rnwpl,r Ivilh Illr clnntlnreis luNl rrqulrrulrul:v eslnhllshrJ hy fhv Coul- Inlvslun shldl he tlertucll n fnise mlvrrtisrutrNl 'vllhin thP menniug uf trrlinnn 1C--16 of Lhe N'rdernl Trnlle ('nlulwlsvluu Aet. N. 5:dl pruvielou tllllt "It xI1nII IIr IIIIInt\'fal 61r Rny IMrnl11 to mnnufnctnre, inqlor/:, nr PnuknAC for Rule or divtributinn v'Ithht the llnilcll Slnlrs nny oit;nmNtw Ihr I'nckllk'e nf vrhielt (1) fniln bt t11c fnllnwinF ntnlrmtntv 'IVnrning: Cnnlinnn1 Oi/'nrette smoking fohly Iie Ilnznrelnns In Your ilrnll.h' ror (2) fnils In elnla Ihe nvrru,GC far Rull uirulitla y9rlds lur cignrutte :ts Iteter- Inlned Ly Ihr 1':nnLrid;;r Illtm' mrihnd or nurh other uml.hnel ns nlny hrrrnflrr hr nlrproyrll fnr nrh plu'Pu.r hy Iln Nnliannl ilnrrnu nf Slnntlnrd.a." It fnr- ihrr pruvidrs: '41NO olhrr wlirnldl/: rrvluirrnlrnt nhnll IN% SltllxewYl nu rlg:rrrttr blhrlinF m' purI I,,r uuy Irrdrrnl. Rlal,, or Inr:d ulllkurll\'" 1'rindnnl aud iu,lmuLicr 11nur/iuns m'c providrd in Ihr hlll fur fnilurc I:: rnn:Ply \vllh its rrtplirculrulu. 9'hr II '1'rnJC Conmrlesian hue plu.rrd n Nndh:R rulr lu fhr lullinllull uf remrdiut Inemsurru elrnllug rvllh rlFUrrila I:Ibtdln2 lutd nAverliviuR iu rrln- Ilnn In Lhc public hrnlth eplestione rnisal by rinntrtte nmoking. lyn Srplember Lre. )nGR Ilu 1'ummisviun Prnuml/:nlv:f fli{;:rrrllu A:lvertislNg (.aillru I6"fl: .Ann. Itrp., 1u1'd/, It. S2). Amnug ulher tilln{;u, ihry prnhlldtrd rrPrrNrntnl.innu In riRnrrllr ndrrrl Inh:,r- or InLrliu/; w61r11 rrfer lo rilhrr Lhn Inrnourr nr nbsrroc or any Pliy:rir:tl rlfrrlv frnln ril;:nrlIr mmol<InK. or tvhivh tuakr inl.vuhsllmlinlrel 'Anlmv ravp,r/ing nirul.iur tRrv, ur olhrr rnnlllnurnls af rlenu'eIlr ~rnnl:r, nr eehirh i :my ,ilhrr nvp~.rls r,nduln iniplirnlions ,.~n,rrniuG iho hanllh rnusr_

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(is l'.IIL11iIZ'f'PI': ].Alllil.lN17 AKII AU1'I-IIYI'IRINC---11111tl anllloril.l - pon Lucn lutl:ly lo hutll :ul}'Loll.y lufnrn cuur ('unlnli.~,ion IhoLr.n};:,gIJ in tln1Id.ict.arlcrrti:;inr.,,runlrld it'? 111'. I)Ixu,v. :1111~1. 'fhi. i:: crnu' Irill? \Ir. K/Rllslaof'Prxas . Yc- ,si1'. lll'. UITVr1N. '1Lis Lilt tl~oulll, I bl'lircn iu yom' bill von trollld pilt- enqllI ly n wonllt sl i ll h:tve I llo :l nl horily over dcreplive I,raal irvs , 61d. uul.:ta Mt Lrnl1I1.-.- AII'. I(Itulats (If'Pe.I ns. ovor drvcl,/ irt, prnul.icrs yuu muuld .clill Ir,we I.hI, tiawn:I.nlhorit,l', tit~onlllyou uol.? AIr.I)ISUN, l,eounllorSlnnd il-. \I r. Ian:elcv u['1'r~us. l~en, viri I Il:lt is t'i"lll:. Nroc, It,l lun mk l~uu onr 1'urllor qnrvlion. I lmve Seclrnl Iluo.<aioos iu tniud, bul. I nut uof goinR, In lullrosr, uu I.he I.itue. :aht I)ISUN. I utif.h6~a}~ t.ltis In 1-uu, t6oul,.ly ou Ihis pniol, if vnu tcnultl I islrn lo Int'. juA. for a ulimdh. 11'u ronld 6:nn vomo Ilillirullios if yne Ilo thiP, bnlIhin is ynur dr'.~ cicion. For iu=lnnro, in /~nur hill Vou tconld Pay to us, "Now, loulc, (lrm1grrsv Ln.s srdcrrl Ihis n, Irr I6n Lrallh 6nz:nnd n,lo:;makin,r_,+nud l~rnl slal~anti of il, il" is uonu of y~um- hu~iur.., Lul y-on t'nu still t;o a I'lor r~rrepl it~r ud- rt'flisiu~." ,tinplm.~t unn ol' 1 hrso ri~nrrl I r runtpun ivs.cnuld rnmo onl. tcil h nn nd a,nrl Ihoc ttuuld say this. 'fhtt' rolun onl. wil.h :ul uQ and srn~':/°I':ceu Ihou~r6'ILr, Uou;qrr5s rcqaircll us to pul. this tt~:uning on Lllt'. I:Ibnl, Iharo is still tl, wrdienl nnnlrr,crrnv nv lo tvlml6ar or not. it rnwt-s cnurlr." ' SPlla-t roulll bo dune altnnl.IlLn1 ? Alr. ICrwu~.l;. uf 'Ievu=. I::nl. /hrrr n. merlir;l.l cuutrnvm~s}~? Afl'. Ulsun.'I'lult. is rii-ihl, hlll. hou' loany peoplu tvoald Ih:ll. pl'r, su:ult tlndl ilf masd:ul,rrous? 31r. Ilucr:rn of 'I'rcas. Itut Iltn olydit'al uonlrnvtrsy is on omr; sillu Ilmlt il. k dantmruns, on Ihe othrr Ilwl. il, isn't. t{Iln~,rorons. \Ir. UIVUN. I luukrll:npl Ilull, bulILo ltrnPnml,'.Ianc/'e of ILn sci- rnlilirolrillinu i51Lal.il in;tl1r;111L 6;aarrl. Xrr,t', il. isnnts turnnimun=. .1fr. Ifur,ru.. ofI luunc, Lul. udLilu q'rI ul'a uu thnl. NII'. ilicao, I/I.luo :edc 1-rru tllis qrlrclino. Tnu lal;n lhn l,nsil iun nnrc l6utl6rrr.bkv 6r'ru rnrtlroccrsy aud I,rnldnIllnl.IllnromwilfrnLL:tlt cnll rrqitf nprnl nrdA lirulurl~' ntlvisrtl I6nltchal. Ihrr soid tv:ts nnl. r'nlirclr Irnr. Nrrlc, Ilitlu'1. 1on lul:n Ihl IIw=iliou somr.l.iwo bnr.lc 16a1: I6ia tv:iu nuroul l-ner.rlrtl Ilut tlri:_ino 16a1. rir;unIlrs ratlsn hlnl; c:utetr'! \Ir. Ihxox. Whnl. I Irird Ir, to Irn:.: is rihhC 6o.rn nu lwrm.3:] in nar rldr, ill onr L:I'iI: nnd ;mrllu~~r I I rird In rsl,rr:. tl,is in :1 crn.~.Lrrrl. Imr:l!.ru.lrh. lYr olHrtl.:1s uultrl rorllrr: ' Illhr"r r'purl. Lodir, hacr rr,9etced ILi, rcirlrurn ,rud r.uurluqrd 1hn1 Ilrn uub~ nlrilinl 1Lrvlllh hnznrJw uf rll;arrIlr euud;iut nrv rlr:u'IS esl:IbliuhrJ. 'I'Auy lurlwlo Ihr \\'ofld 1lrnllh Irr;nnizuliau. Ihr Itril.lsll Aliulsl.ry uf Ilrnlth Ihe AWrrir.rn 1'nlrlir Ilr,Jlh Aer:nr.ialiun. awl Ihr Ahrrrinut l:uurr For~/r11'. Nu rlinlnl..rrar.l "prrl 6ody nPtr :1 s,1:ar'usilir mrictv r? ILr r.elJourr ha+ I'r'nrLnl rvwrln.iu. nppovrrl Irr /hor af Ihr 1'rrllr,w if 1ln.rul 1'Lenirinns, Yll. Nnr;;rr.n qr,nrral v nrl,~is~~ly rommillr'o. nnJ Ihr m:m olh,r hlRhlv romprIrut nnd rrllnlrln nrr,mrir.ullr.u.u Ilurl hacr rcprrr;:rd Ilurm.u~lron Ihr nnLlrr~l. Alihough ILrrc ninl nr1l1 yrla bt rumPlrlr unnulmilv rm I6r qurslinn. Ihrre iu plniuly un aldhorl- Inlirrr i~n:rlu:nHUf quullllrrl r~lu,rl "pini~m~r r91:AI1R'1°I9? 1.AIIP:IdN11 ANU APl'llit'I'IKINR 11165 (61 91r. Itnia;¢n uf'I'r~o~. 11/rll. ur,tc, ILr. yuu bacr tcrillru I6e1 iu Ihn rvparl, isn'Iil Illmn:dA idlulir-nl tci1L Ihr' pvct'hnluhirul nlrprrt.u4h lludf ynn tcere Inllciu(n a6ou1 otchilo.:l;[t,? I1' n rig;trrllr. rrtutp:uly' noy:=, Ilm Cunrlrss lutv said Ilutl "c' Ilacr nrd Ir, tcaro you, Lu1 tht're conl ratrnilbrl tcrrn Qtc pouplt:' tch)~ tcoulll Ilm rit!:urltr pro do in Illhrrli~in;? Inst nny' rights ILaI }'un hut~o lu nlalto u rrpoli. uf t~lix Icind iu chirL 16o pxyrhnlor~ica lical rll'rrl nf t6ut. Inunn:ItCr is (4) lond ltroldn l11 htlirvr Ih:l.l. Ihu Iradiuy;~ uulhr,rit ils Im.rt', snill ill rluu;re hmg ruur.r, Irul. ltm Joo't Rice. Illee nnwr, i,f Ihr hruldlI or Iltr di~r'nssinn Ihnl tclW rm tu sny ILnI, it drn~u'1 rnv::r luug raurrr? I nm lordcie',g fr,r f:tr'1=, Atl'.AlncnnN.u.u. \l'illlllngrnllrm:ut}irlll? Afr. ltlnlr.l;nuf'[lsas. 1-esi I tvill bh h:lppv,to. Alr. Plnruu~rel.n. Isn'L itIt inrl, :o; con ':ud y'esterda;S iu yrmr lesli- luony, tlwl Iln+co eullyd blLll'-iihhon rnutuli'siuu vtt uf, for tltin ct1'y purpuso nnd uttr rvhirlt Ilte. 1irurt'llu rrrml,:mir. Ihtm"'Itrs Lud a crlo,r'nuu.hnr'I:Inumimrnlslyuutls:lilllhul tht'slunl:int~r,friy~nrrllr> I luloa' 1'ou tmnL inlu Lhrw larl :thonl Ihr inhnlnlion, tI nIrrn wnp rundurieo Ir, rnurrr,;tnrl 16:t1 is o farl lurrl Ihul (s uul in dir.lrol~' Al r. I )ICII., lrs. AL'. WrAs.V.U. '1'lu,y rnlmt' bwrlc I/i lu nolhiug, an nL=r,lUl1'.Iq Ilrnl.roll boly, :uld IluLcsl- prrrplr iu ILiti lirItl. Nn I ILildc ILnI Itt'. nlrrndr hny Itnstt~lred tllal./pItrrl iou. Alr.~lior.elrn uf'l'esusf of r'om-sr, il is a Inn.ller of oourlusiou Ilc lo lvllu is hesl. iu iLe licld nud trho is or,t lu',;I in Illr Iie1r1. I t6ildc tth hutl vmmo Ir.cl.imnnc Lrfurv Ihis rouuniltrro of smmv n'n'Ilo Ilml. ILou~'61, Ilwl Iln,l' urn, iu~l ns gotnl as IFhr I,orqrlt. Illnll wn,Io Ilu ollur rIrrisirm, :md su IL:d1 is ~:anrlhiurr.;16:d ut urr I:Ilkiu;! :Jwut. Lrrr, tchlI1,rr or unt 161.rcw t\ns /volroclrAy. 'I'hl' fnrl. is thul. Ilwrt'e is ouulrncl't'v3 ' un 1 his snhjrcl. Alr. IhNoN. .\nd many of tLo t~imcs of IlLose emim~nt dnrtut. Ilmldid Ilol. ;ISrr('C ILnIt rigerolJn smnlcin~ +rus It Itenll6 6nztud, tcl'IV vrm- sidrrrrl by Illis advisory cnnnoillte. 'Phey lutoic t.Lrw sitn:d-ion. TLr Lildirtgrnplly~ Lere iu ILis rcporl iv qailr runqdtle tcilh xvllnl. 16ry' Snid. Alr. R,n:erzsaf'1eNllc. Yrvil wldor~l:mll. IrrlM mn aslc ow+ mwr (Im'st.ion, nud Ihrn I tcill yirlll Ihr. Iloul', Nll'. I )isun. InI1 las nssnuw 16a1. nu It;;ivla.lion iv passed by thu Congress nn IlLis sabjlat.. Is it yonr pn.itiou thnl. i f 1on tbring inlo pley 1.6c, hado rule rmmlalinn tvltich yun nnliciptttcll.lint t.ltis will constll.nto n pmemp- ion insofar )ts tllo Lluldling of clRlu'ettes It.nd ci aret.t.c udverl ising in g iulrlshltc rannm'rte i5 eonc'rrned, Imd Ihat Iwy uav by n S. In.lu 6nvin Ir, do with tcnrniugv ou Iraclcurt's ur tcnrninl;a in ndvlrl.isiuh wotdd full brr;nu~r of 16e.llnrl riuc nf pnmml,l inu? Alr. Ihsr,v. ti'ou uunn if Ihl' Ivtrltrul 9'rndt. ('onnnission exerri.rs il:<t.llforermlnt ,rotcrcv, trould thia prtrmpt7 A1r. Rrxama of'I'exaa. Yr.s. 11r. I)unN. 1'Iro mtsteer is "No," sir And I ulifiLl', su~ gesi. t.o cun Ihis: 'I`hnl even ill punr hill whtre pou mako meution of Ilus, I donbt t'rrv srrknlcly wholhrr ILr ('ougrrss rnn prefmpt nll of lltrso 1'ir+lds fruiu Iho Slnlrs lnr®n5r Lhis iv n prdirt' potcrr,:md it is a Ilwd:uunntal ~'nn<I if nl innul rlr+hl, w Imulrr.inurl il, fur n Slldr or Inrnlil t' Iu Ilrn

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36 ClqAlils'1'TL: LAlll:IdNrl ,1N11 ADA'b:nTISIN(:- 11/fiS STATEMENT OF IfON. PAUL RAND DIXON, CHAIRMAN, FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION; ACCOMPANIED BY J. V. BUFFIN6T0N, AD- MINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CHAIRMAN; JOHN WHEE- LOCK,EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR; CHARLES SWEENEY, CHIEF OF DIVISION OF FOOD AND DRUQ ADVERTISIN4 OF BUREAU OF DECEPTIVE PRACTICES; AND FRED DOWNS, ATTORNEY OF BUREAU OF DECEPTIVE P1tACTICES llfr. lltxoN. I Ilnre \ril.lt nlc mrlnberti of the s/afC. 9'o my rihl, is Iny nssist:urt Mr. :1. V. Rulftngluu :Ind lu his right is AIr. Joltn N. 11'6rx+luelr t.ha 1lxecutivo llircalor of I6e Fr.dr.rnl'1'rnde Comntission. ']`o my ]r,ttlk is Mr. Citnrlrs S.vnanoy IJtr. (;hief uf the Fooll and I)rllg A d vert.isinC l)i v isiun, aud I o 11 i h Irl'1, s, sl.n Il 1411orney, Al r. P'red ])n ivns. RIr. (",6n.lruuul, T a.pprrciale 16r, nl lporhwil.y ttl nppear before yuu on hr,llalf of 16e Frdr.r:tl'I'rudo (`uminiv,sion nnd I-o ptr:vonl. t6e Oommis- sinn's rictcs un II.R.. 1211 1 alnd Il.lt. fl(111. Tiy eoumtenls on 11.11. ]i011 n'ill n.pply rellnlll,y fo ILR. 91n)7 siuco Lhn~l two 6ills 2re idenl icnl 'Pho b'r.Jrral'I'r,ldr. (`ouunission ns Ihis roumlil.lce lutotvs, llns 1tl:tyed :t Ir:nlily; rulo ill Ule inil.irll.iun uf r:,utrdiul uleanures <lrtllug wlth rltttt- relle I:1Leliu}; aud ndvrrlisink ill rrlaf iun lo 16e pu6lir, hettllh qut_sliuus rnitied Ly cif;'orr.l.lo smoLinq. Ou Septembrr 15, 1955, tlle Cnmmission pronnll~:drd ('ip;'llrot.le Adl~orl.isin;; (;nirlcs (F'PG Ann. Ifept. 19f11, p. 890 . Amuu}[:,16urlLint!c,ILr}t:rnhihilerlrrpreseuf:Ulonsiitci(*;rrelie :Idvc.lf.i.iur or Inbcling. u'LirL rrfer lo eil,6rr Ihe prru<o or absrnru nf Ilu)' phasirel rll'rcIs frnlu Vil;inrllr smnlrinf;, or tvllirh mulr unsub- sInulialyd r.lninls rrsllrr.linh niraliur. I:ms, ur alllet coulpononls uf rignlrllr suwkr, or wllirh ill nny rdhrr rrsllrrls cuutuin iulplirnliuns eonrrrninh ILe Lrull.h runsrqurm'r. uf stnokiuh ci;;:trrltrs nr nny ari- 1'rrl isnd br:lud. In 1!1GO, ILo Counllisninn nblainc.l :I~rremonl. from Lhe lrnllinl;'ri;;inullr uunlul'nclnrrts l.n rlitir.old.inuo tLe cuufnsing:md un- ~uhslanl.iletrd rrlrresrnt;ilions of Inr nud nicotine conlont vc6irh Lnd ch;l.rnclorir.ed Iho sn-calletl t»r derhy. (I~TC i1nu. Re~lt., 1MH/, p, R:.t.) :Rinrn ILe prolnnlr.ntinn of Ule ('ih:u'rltc t\dvertismy; (iaideq, tlle (Swuui.<,inn Ilns maiela.inrd n r,lnnr tuld roufiunous 5r'rldin,y of ci;,.il- rrl.le n(lvrrli.,~in~ prueli.es, nud I~an hron cvt.y unlch ietereslod ill Iho pru;,rrss nl' tuwlialll rrst.nrch drlving iuln fhe henlth nspcr.ts of ri?,.n- rc.Ue smul:in~. I'llo ('numlissiuu, 1ltnnlCL i15:;I;tIF utrmUrr. hss moni- lorrrl all virn%11rc nllar.rl isinn Iloriur I lus prrind nnd Iodny is ronl.ina- in;; sunL wouiloring. We hltvc nlainl:linod u. clnse (.nnlar.t wilL nlGrinls of Ihr, nif!eretle iurlnslt.v, as tlall an vvil.ll I>nblir, Itml privste Lodios trhirll lutre rnml;!rrl ill scir.ntific rrtir:urll ill 16is ffnld. 1Pitl1 the mannl.ing ~ of rrnllLnsiv, ill rcrent. yt`nrs, on t,he grnve 1Lltz:w~ds to lifr nnll hrnllh invulvrd iu ritarrlJo srnokinf!, Ilm Cnnllnis- si:.u'S oullrrru tt-il.ll fnlfilliuh ils ,Slal.tdnl,y m.aponsibilil.ire ill fLo :nraq of Ihr turrrhandisint; of ri;:n.rrllIs 6nn in/rruvrd. As n nmmifrsl:ll.ion nf Ihisneurr.rn, IILr ('auuni4Ginn raplr,Ird IrrLnirnl guidnnre frnln Iltr TT_S. 1'nhlir Ifr:lllll ,`;rrvier nn tlu Llbrlin~ snrl advrrtising of tnLnrr,o prrxlncls. Ilon of 1.6e rranuun cnn tcill lind ill this reporlt. of Gtis "Lhre riLbou srieul ifio rnllllnil.lrr" fur Iha nsluLlisltulent of snlII a counnil fre 1, Ie Ihis rrqurst 1 h.nr jusll refrrlyd to. I wrelr thc Inl.frrs uiysrlf Lt/ Insr tre Ilrre;,rll.inl, A1r. ('6:ntmut, rlurslions frum Illn ('nnl~rrss :In:l fr.au /Lr I:cl~tir A1 linl i:+ cr ur _II il ii 1, 11, I,III 9 Ivl CIUAIII:1"L'P: LAItL11.1N1i ANU AnVh]IIPISINt.--111/16 :l7 yuu going to do nLout Illis reprrsrnl:d.inn? I turued lo tchn.l I tcuuld wnslder the best, scientific suln'ce I conld in Amerira tv6eu I uslcrd Ihe Sorl;con (ialoral to give us stnne ~uidnnce, end so he ciled 111n1. us ouo of his several rce5uns fur e~lalr`ishiu}; tltis cemmillro which ho rsl sdLl islled. In fnnl, flte Assori:de ('Itiuf of I6o 1)ivision of Sciculilic Opiniuna of Lhe Cnunuission's Illno:ut of Ur.rpl.ivc I'rnalircc, n InrrlirI41 ductur, .. as )nr . of Ihc n6srrvesn from inlcr~~irvl I~r~lrtnl t~rurirs wlto Ilar tc as liripnlyd ill lLo inil lal /lrlihr.ral ions ul' I Ile rFlml'IAdvlwuy l'Irunnttlrc r~laLlis6r:1 bv tlle Sln':,rouu (lrnrritl ill 1962, lto underlltke n rnutprr- Len<it'n re.clew of Itvailn.ble dilUt uu the relnl.imtsLip behcrru srnol<iuR Itnd 6rttll.I1. Our doulnr ounly 11119 ill u liuisou cnpncity'. I to wns nul. a mrinbrr nf tho anmluitlrv+ Lhnlt nu,dn n. report or stnrl-v, Gir. 'P6ns, I he ('nuntlissiun wus lrreltarrd, \chen Llle Atlvisnry ('nwmiIlre n rnlrurf. tvus relrayrd on ,hnwan,Y 1 I, I!)li I, 1 u nt1tlpun Illr Surl!~run (iru- r`IT4P;; S'I:III`Illrllf- 111:1111`tll :IIIIP:IIIV'lll!! Ilrv rrlrus!` nf tltr nlmn'I Ihnl a Ihd. uf itu Inug +nld tshunahr driibrnttiml~. Illr Adci~~~:~;' 1'ulnmlllrv hnv mmhrd 1h.` ur,rnll judl:mrul Ihal rl{mnIh` xmnkiun Is n h..nillr b:rc:u~J nulll- rirlll inlp.n'Iau,'r` Ill lhr, l'uit.~d Nl:drs In,car:'.::d. r.rurdlul urli.m. lln./:utnlu.y IH, IW41, Illc ('onnllissinn, Iwrvnunt.ln lllc Fcrler:rl'I'rmle ('olnulissiuu Aet :tnd fu ptyrrrthlrr`1 srt Gtl'(lt in 16e Adnliniahal.ire 1'rucrdlu'o AclM nnd the ('ouuniiun`c llrnrrdtn't`s ;unl 1'Idr.s of ln'Itcl.iar, iuil.iatrd n prorerding for Ihr 'Irotunlralinu of :t 1_t'udr rr~tdtdinn rule ur rnlr~ frn t.he llrt'vrulinn of ml fnir ur Ilrr.cplivoe nrls ur prnnl.lrrv iu Illr s:nlre nf ri~arrtt:s m rv`l:diou III ILc Lrallh hoinrds uf ::nlukiu~, ns founll by 1.6r AdviSUr}' l'uuuuillrr. In Ihr. S»r=tron Crurnl. /\flrr rrrriciuC rarunivr.erit.lrn d:lln, t'irrcv nud tugmuool, aed nflcr huLl- in,q ImLliv. ILra.riu~s. 11g+ ('mnwi~~inu rlusrd 16c rrcurd uf Iltr rull'. wnknl peorrediuR ulJAla;y 15, 1!IGI. 'I'hemitflrr, un .Inuc'.°, I:u;l, Ilrr lwumis.~ion, an ILe 6nsis nf liullin~rs mnde hy it. in thr rulrmnking prnerediug nntl srl forlll ill a comprnhrncice sGt,trment of hnsis and pm'Irosr of Lrude rogulntion rulr, Vruiuldf;lded n trede reaItl:J.ion rldo far Lhr+ln'r.~'ruliuu nf 1111f:111' PI' Ilrv'rIllll'n II/lvPl'IJAtIIg :IInI I:Ilmllth r.f ci:,.urrtlt,; in rtlal inu to tho lLrn11111ulznrds of smoltinyl. '1'his rnle ezprrsvcs Ilm Oolwnistiinn's drtrrminali.m, fnr IL I,ar- pesn nf prot'rulln;r ftdurc viulnli-us uf Ilnv, af 16r r:Ipiir/wrnls af tlle Irrdrrtl 'fradr Conmtission Acl. :w apldied to Ihr wm'I:rlinfC oP 1iCarrIlrsiuli-,6l.uftlle16va11I4hnanrdcufsulnkntE. '1'hrrnleProvirla,; 16nf. il. il :ul ttnfnir or drrrplivr urt ur prcrlica tvlthin Illr IoraniuR of srrl ien G uf 16r Te/leral Trailr Cuuunissimt Art. ( I: 1}.S.('. 111) to fail lo disclose clrm'ly aud prontinonl.ly in cirnrrlJe :Idvrrtisiuk :lud lulrrlin~ IlLOIt riff,:lrrltn smokue!' is rlnul!rrnns to hra.llll nnll mny rnl~l` drallt fnnn r:rn.rr nnd nlluv' disrnsvs. I}nlh 16r nd\'rrlisiu,{ und IaLrliu, rwpliremrnls tuf Illr rulr hrrowr r/rrrlivt rm .Ildv I, 1!IGG. 'Phe rrnsnns jnsfif)'in_- surlr et rnlr, a:+tuurr hlll,y rsld:rinrd ill Iho sl::drmr.nl uf bnsis Innl Iqlrlln,:r. nrr hnsirnllv Ltcofolll. Firsl, I.6rre is It remM`nsna oF mrdicnl nnd rrienlilrsc npinion tlLnt cignrrlto slnokiu, g is a ciEuili/unt ra.lwre of /rrlnin p+,ra.rr di=rnsrs nnd conl rihnL's snhsaan tinlly to morl~lil,V frunl t.llnsr rlisr:wrs nnd Ie Ilw nvrrull dralh r:tlr. 'I'llesn n'rra 16e liudings af Lht Stn'~+ron (irnrral's blar-rihhun :\Ilc i~ory ConunillrcouSwol:iuhanll Il/mltll. 'I'hrsc/in:lint[s nnnn!6urilalit~ nnrfrrlinltlr. Afr.('Lnu'm,nl,lhal. IunlroFuunlt~/s:urJllnrlurrtcbn I 1 1 71 1 , .;I i.. ..., 1 .,.L~,l f ... . ., ........ Ilr, l " rri

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G'1 CIUAIiIi'f'L'14 LAIt19LIN(, ANn AUl'NltrIsINC-196fi prnct,ice confemnoe rsdes. We have lfi9 snrh rnles alTecA.iuR iu:lustt:y oelsLauJioz'truLly. Mr. i2uun:res ul"1exus. 'Ile poi;d. I6al ditilnrbs um Lrmnenrlonsly is t-L;rl. I h:lce eatlled uu ILe I;dnrual lirceuee Service, sr,veral Litnea, 11h ])ixun, nud aslcud Lhem lar give wr ;tn adt-unrp opinio¢ on smm~tLiug Lltnt, happened tvi16 sonro,nuslitornl5 of miue ;rs to proceedinl,ri if lie did this, m,mld Ihut. l:ee in vuucpliuarn crilh Ihe Inw. ''hey tnl:l wr: "Yue dn it, and tro 1till rlelrrrui;u Inlrr un tchal.6ct it. is iu eompli:urre wil,h Ihe latr " ~ A1 r. 1)IxnN. I nnclersl.a.nd. Air. Ror,e.la uf 'Prz:r.v. Nnrc ynu ;n'o girio :sdvanr;o nol ire Lrrr nf wltn.t, is going lo bc a1 t'iolatiou of 16re l:oc. .~re yuu going lu I;ivc the s:nue advanre, uul.ire rrP what, is nnt, g'oin;; to be in violst.ion of tLe law? Mr. 11txnN. We orrn givinl;-tre are issuinfi a tvle ptrdiclttetl npon pnst sn:correuaw 'v`,re aire not. cttyin" nm rulillg is in u sense prospec- 1.ivoly. }'fe are not, t!oinl; Lock :utcl 'nvin.~, `Nove loolc, bnrlc Lmn yon hnvedonethis. (',ealseanddrsisto tilnp." 1Yeare wryinh, "Nmv, ~ce wudc Ihis clrtrrmiua.l:inn npon tlris poinl, aud tcn 6a ce i'suecl I his i'nlini. 'I'hiv ruling tvlls you L6m.l. i f yon tvrre to n:lverli;c. a:il;arrllo I,rudurl. ou Ihr. nln.rlcelj vvitLoldt no ndrrymtfn n u'ning as to liu hra.lIh h;i:rrd, nr uoelrl hold tltis tn he in violat.ion of serl.ion 5 of Il;o Fcdetm.l 1 r:rde ('nueurssion Ar,t." Mr. Itnmars nf 'I'exus. And yon ~,n,l~ ILnt is not, lr~rir+Ldiut;. Afr. IhxnN. No, vir. 1 xuy t.h:rl. tc6;t1o me :u'e doinK-- 11fr. Rum.aw of'Irx,rs. Mr. llixon, iP 1-nn ;rssmvmd the a.rd.horits lu dn Ihis verv Ihiq~ on n rtde Illnl )~nn Iliiuk is for thn brmdiL uf nmo- kiu:l, snppu<u t.l;e P'cdervtl't'rnrle. ('inun:i5"inu Irot. untlcr tho dnminnlion of ptople trho lui}{1J.lake. nr:tinn Ilml. 'ndd uot.hn ill LLe brsl inlrresls of 11ce peutdrv of t.his no;udr.Y. '1'hu l:rnplo renera.lly Nconlrl lt:tve no rcruurse brcansr.)'ou nre not nn rlrrlod nllicinl. '1'ho T~tvlrr:,l 'I'rvle (',owmission is a.llpuiutetl. They huce nn ccny Lo t;el, lo you. Atr. 1)IxoN. 1 aru nnlmn:in;. ;r u unbn. 1;ml applying ln lv to facts, nolmrtlciu_, l:rn,_ Tamallplyinp,r,yl:nrlo-f:trts. Alr. lirarn:ccti of 'Pox+t". 13a1 diJ von uol. tell ote,yeslotrln,y tbat con felll von L:rd Iltr. :ud.6orill' In lix 1~6o sl;rnilic lan;!u:rl;c Il;:cl. Irn:l 1~, be usrd in tr.n n:ltrrl.isemrld.% nfr. I11xoN. I sn.i:l I h:ll. cre lmcl I I;n ;;ol Lnril,v onee We hnve Lrld ilfo bo in vioLrt.ion oP onr I:ttv lo Icll su;rlenne exac9ly wha.t Lr lnnsl rrcral. Now, s;rY I.lrre oxaell:mgnor T rlu not- lil:o t.o he ranght het.tveen iLo 51 i IfneS.y of worrls. 1 lilm to 16irdc I IuttInrn nrn ucurc cu.hnble uf s;qinF thnsncno Ilciu!, ar.rcr:rl %Vavs. ISnt.l. tconld s:ty tvLnl. tvelm.ve snirl 6ore i: Ilm.t, il( is nrrrnsnr.y lu~Ln.ve au nrlerp;ntie nv:nniug na to t.he LenltL L:IZUrrI of snlnlciu,i . 'I'l;r.rc :no sotnrnl tr:rv4 1 Ihink this vonld Lc a:tid. 1 Ihinlc we lutcn Il;e l,olver to forr.r I6iti luho doee un:lrr 16e. Intv lce oprrulr. 'I'Ita.('rlAnenr.w. Nill ILr;.retlrmsu rield? Nfr. RnatwHUf'1'exns. Yrs,7 would Ile.t;lnd to. 'f9re CIlmutnrAN. Are von snyinr, nlrr flhnirtunn, ItIM1IV yoll cO116t1'lle 1Lenul6nril,y runlniur:l in Il;r~Frvlr.r:rl'I'radr.('ommivsion Ar.l.,lupor- tnil\'on by rula ur re,tulnt.ion lo lny doncn 61re pre.r,ise lnngnnge that must lie usr(1 in InLrlin" n.nQ :uA~rrt.isint; iu tvnrnim,., Ilrn pn6lic, ;tnd twlrss Ih:tl1 hrrri;<r. I:nt,men{m, is wrd, Iltis consliLtde a vioLrlinn of Ilce 1vr:Ltnl '1'rn:lr /'nlnmi,ti.viun Arl 9 r'IqAlt4.l"1'I1 1..114P;IJNl1 ANh An1'tlt't'ItiiNl; IUGS A1r.I11xuN. Yrs. 'I'6n Uclnlltactt+. IAr yuu nn:lc.rshrn:l 101111 L h:ne in ruinrl? Alr. Ihsnx. I Illiulc so. '1'Lu (hrAncmnn. I wordd ca,y t.his. Let,'.v a5sunrn Ihis. 1Al~;ud you to alrnrly mrJerslnnd IvLnt I Intvep in luind. Afr. ])txeN. Yon metiut the exnct wording? 'Che UtlAlutrr,tx. l.et ns ussnnre thnt stx.Liun G dotv ;;ive yrtu 1Lrond n«thoril.y lo require cun't.ain procetlurrn lo I/e r;u'ried W., .earnings :u;dr:,rfnrlh. Myqursliunis:Ilu.)on6rlieveLh:ll.Ilert.hrn;tcl:udborily r;rn 6o,n irilr.rl,rrlr:l Ihai. ynu rnut Iny dolt'n tko preeise l:mgrta!!e u'hiclt nu;cl. Rn nn n porI:u;;e of cik;u'allec to rnnrldV mil.lt t,ho brn:ul termv of ulmt ccuuld be rl:auld.ivo :nnl so fortl:7 'I Irn.l. is h+llint{ ,Intcn io it pre.lly linr point, bld. I nn~uut to {tell to Ilris ver,y prnnl, if )'ou e'ill. nlt'. I11cnN. 1Ncnnld like In sre if I cam m:1ke il, rle;ur. We runlrl reqniree a nvarningon Llle produe.t. The (1uan;nrArv. AsstuwnR ),otl rtnt r1o Ilt:rt.. A(t. UIxoN. Assmuin~, vice c;ut do Ihal. Now, tlle rs:rel. Innlengn of ILnt, ceA.reiuf(, lro lvualrl ncunlly lind tLe nnlurr ar Ilris tclren ccr rnme to 16e rnorpliunr.r. A1'eo s;;1' "Nnn~, com Itnvr hulI to cm rcrrr pa:I:n:ira of v.i;,arellts gice. :rn ndrqnalr. ,c;vning :ts In t6e he:rll6 I;nznrds :,f nmolcin,~." '1'Iren Ll;e pnrly tvoel4 s'cIVl rip;ld, l prul,u.o In ~,ty tltisund .ve worrld ;tccept tt or t4rn tt, duwn nnd colnr lo at point of whnro snembo:ly ncmdd say, c`Wrll, 1:mr nul, gning to dn nnytlcing bnt t6iv," nnil tLon n'n nli;;Llhavc to go in nn n' hennlt:y snit. '1'he ('unnanrAN. Nu; ILntt i~ nnlt wh;tt. I lneunl lhntt is nol..clrnl. I olrnn. 1 mrrn trv4mninh+llt:rl. yon Inrvr t6r ;:nt.hord.y, Ilrnl yoa rnn s:ry In ruulpnuy X, °Ynu Irnve gol. lu lmlt tltiv esnnL er un tLnt lulxl" ;tnd crL ontwhn.lt thn 11;ngunp,re is, rIn }ou Ihinl: Ihnl )on L:rco Ihol. aalhnrily? llr. Illxnx. ()Lviuncl}' I thi;dc tcn lntve. Ihttl. ;udhorily. AV'o Imve Iho n.nlLorill' I~r re;p;irr ;cn ndrqnnle `rnrnint!. '1'Ito l'n Ananrnx. T:un :c,snming I h;d. yon bave Ilrn.t, bul rln yon Icn.vo tlre a.;dLoril.y In go beyond Ihnt.:rnd luy donvn Il:e precitm:e. Ittn"naf(r? A1 r. I hwN. 11'e won ld ]tnve t o-- - 9'he. C;IanrnlAx. Tn unler to rompFe with Illn ;t,lr.,pm.lr n:n'nint;, r,r dnrs I hr rolnpnny lur.vr nny 1:en';cy 111,1111 l In rsl n6lisl; cahnl Il;r~' t Ilielc wu;Jrl l,rv lanr_naCn tu ,ocuply Ncilh Ifie ndr:le;rlr trernip}t? Afr. Ill-vi.v. '1'I;is is the Icnp I nunLl like In Ienve. it, Ilml ILe. t.nm- pn.ny lms Irelv:yy n:fler lcr require Ilhe adrrptn(e oarning" W=rlrrt. Ihn rorrerJ. vrrhinaCe lo rlo it., l,rrtulse 1 u.tn aooviuard. LLrrr is wore, Ihwl uue way tu f,rrA. Ihis messu};c ncross. Nuw, i f('unRrrv.c~ lrn.¢sc,c, n lria,rt rtf Ir~,isletinn nnd sn):v/°I'his tc:un- ing Fhull Iw reqnitrd," t6en it ltns io be exactly in that lanhnn~n, exn.rtly in Ihelttn~lt:r?!e. '1'he. I'.n.NruntnN. I n{Crvo wilh 1.6n1.. l1'Iml. I nn; Ir}'inv In lincl :mt is if Ihe 17r,mmk~,iun ntuil I lrnncv ynur slnll' run drvelop Ihrsc Ihings-if i6e (;onmrissinn frnls 16att it; hrs 16o n.cdhorily hl speeitieally drtermine IIce langrafngn Ihnt, temt Ro uq at ri;m rol I ,o Ia.lm.l to rAu'ry nul. tcLnt. tee lmvr nssomwl is I lrr. n r11 horiL,Y of IJ;o I lannnission i f it rlrlrrlninra aclrrfnnto .varning is nrrrsc:tr;v. RIr. 1hsnN. Ai'e migld. 6ave to rrarh Ihe point in tlre drtcrn:innl inn Ihe.t. Lln+ro lcos onlp ono way lo n,lrvpralely pat ct ,cnrninl! oul. If Ilr,;l. lc:;ti o;n ollim;rle de,.i>:ion, Ilun tl'n \t'MIl1I Ilnve I1/ tifly Illla i the

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1`IO clU.tlil!l.Tl1 t.AItPILINrt ANU AM-1:Irrlsl,yU-1965 Ilr. 111iNnl.rr. (lf ruurve, Illrl' ;u'v. I) r::l,lc. jnvf. Iilu 16r. rcni, nl' Ihn pnnllln ui Ihls rnunlry. I d:ure nuy ill our Urlmtiuleld u 6igllel Inn- purl.inu of pcullln hare ynils ur nindilinl Uleir smuking hnllilr: Il::nl wuullt Lu cL;tr;tdcris(ic uf vlLer ( iuvurinuont a.l,uunins. AIr- YuuNwelt. 1"uu duu'I, inquiro lchen puu Lire. :utlbudy as ta 1rhrl Ilcr Ihey amnltuurnr>t? 1)r. Ilurvul,nn-. 1Vu rlcl uut. :Islc prnr<prrIilee empluyees n6utd. Illrir suiol<iul; habils. 1Vn luke Illo s:uue nllilullr lulvarcl om cnl Il,yr"-: 1 hu1, n~n do tunn rd I he A nlel'ir:ut Imnlllr, 111:1[ a Ilcr tt I I, 1 he.y sltnu~(I 6a co Ihrlfn.ds/lrulil inl6etrrlucisiml. NIr. YunNr.l:n. 1)r. Terl.r, ill c,nnnerfinu lrilh Il:e adverl.isinl;, is it }utu' idrn (hutt eil6er yon or the, ('unuuistiicm tcould lmcn superrlsicnl over I llo ndvorl isiu~! cunl.eni ill addil iou l,u Lhr, lc:nuiuguulial? I)r. I'r.env.'1'hu I)opurlmertb of I1u:111.6, PAdur:ttirvn, and 11'e.lfnrn L:Is rnr,umutendnd Lltnt flto re).ul:dious ;md aot6ofilsies wil.h ru{;nrds Ln ndverli.tiinr Le in Ihu I~'rdrrnl'I'rndu (`omutitiqinn. !AIr. YuuKann. Is it. ynar iciea. Ihal16oy tvoldd snpervisn t.he rnu- teut, of Iltu adcnrlising jceyun:l t6c inscrl i:rn of Ihu traruiug stnteweul, ;I fler I lie stn.len:enL 6ns I crn nt mrd upon ? I)r.'1'raaer. I ll~nldd a.veuwr. 16cy a-ould, hut I.uu rnnl, renlly rpmli~ licalIn,Spval.onlhissubjnrl,711r. Younher. I\1 r. 1'c,uxrI~nt. '1'Lnt is:111, Mr. Gta.irlu:ul. 791o UuAUtMnN, lblr- Korml,.ny, 1 hrliera I nl;rred to recol,ntizo ynn nezt. Af r. Rof;uts is uulv here. illr. Iturr:¢k of Ii'lurid;t. I tcill dcfar lu >\Ir, ICarurgay sinr`e hu lla" lu rnl e.6 n. pl:n:r., A1 r. (,'lla.irmlut. Rfr. 1CuuNm:.tr. 'I'llank you ret.y wuch. I apprunirttc )oltt lottiuIg mu go ;dlend,111r. ltoguls. ])r. 'I`nrry, iu putyuinR tltu subjcat tchiaL Air. Rogers of-'I'czati 6ruu,ht. up, LLnI. is yom amnpaiRnt of infurmiug and rducal.ing fhe IcuLlic un Lllt, evils uf nlnokinl±, yun ar. ImhlisltiuR it I;reat dunl ul' pnwrhlets or a la.rl;r. umulK:r of p:nulrhlcls nnrl t.llnl, surl. of Ihiu::, n ren (. you 1 1)r.'1'r:eltr. 11'u 6nl-r. pu61is1Leal am'ernl plnupWe.f s. AIr. ICuttNl:n.tr. Ancl 1'nu Iniblished rrur. uu Su:olcinR wul the hc:uli I ll-. '1'letuts. 1'ec. lttl. ICUItNF1H;1Y. 11illlcll I hold iluuy hattcl? 1)r.'t'Fntn-. Yex, uir. ]1fr. KrntNl:nAr. And on the frout of IL:d, funr-Pngo p:unphlul, ynu Lavo a Ixrru pir.6nru of the, re.porC of (.he Advisury Couuniltue to Ihu Surl;enrt Gouural of 010 Public IlenllL ,4or1'ice, dou't you? 1)r.'1'rauty. 'l'hnts is righl, sir. Air. ICnuNMlnt-. Aud Icl, ule, nsk .yuu Ihis. }YLnt nns Ilw (pnrpusr of pul.l.in~ 16nt un Illo' lumqdllrl, ill:d is Illr pirlrn'n nf t.lle relrorl nu snlokinR aml henll ll'9 Ih. M1lr. I(orne(!ny, 16esr wi,hlr be 1'e.ferred tu ns gr:ntd- cLnrl;Llrr pu6lirntinus rel:Je:l lu anll 6n~rd nn 6his specilir, informa- I inn. AIr. 1(ntcNlaaeY. ln ulltnr.rorcls bnsrd on Ilro rnlrorL to tllu surkrou (iollrrnl hy Ihe Special Advisnt'.y (loumcilim? 1)r.'ll~.ltln'. '1'I lnl is riRlhl, sir. [l/lnlfli'r1rr: I,AIWa.INor ;1N'U AllN rlt'PItiINa Itlfib I-11 Alr. ICnnNt:::.lr. ,\nd 1'nu )lanl. ill rifr Ille ilnprrs~;iun, nf ruuf:r, iu Lhis pampldet, --(o nn}'uun lclcn luuks al, l.his pnuipldet ...Ihat smnlc- img lms rnlue very Ic;td ell'ect on Ihn Lrarl. ur oaases hunrtt distnw, i=1 ff. l I: n lI righl 4 Ih'. 7'rvntl~. 'Clle. Llting that, lvn a.lleuipled to do, Afr. Kornegny, n~as lo presrulI the inforlnn.liun ILaI. I.hern n'as slrnnl; eciclenrr ill su:!};esl, Illnl, cil;nrellu atnnlcinr llns rela1nd lo hrvtrt disr,t~'e. ~111.r. ICu1tNr:ony. And 1.I1a1 rnlne nLunii ns a resld6 uf Ihe mpart of I lu. bitvl.pv,n I rt+nel'nl l o i.llnrowmit (rr, iti l lnrl, rilgld.? I lr.'il-er,c. In Ir.:rt.:uld Im;,,r11'; vrs,sir. hlr. Knl:Nlzr.,~r. LcI. lne clirrcL yom ollenlion to pa~r .~1. I)r.'I'taurr. I :lul nu pn(;u:S9. ,NIr. ICnltNUUnI'. Of Lhls 1'epol'I. lo Ille, 5nrgrau I.rnernl hy 111e Special Advisnly (7uminiflcr, Ille first sf:utinR parngrnldl uu 16atpagu roads: Mule riirnrrllr 4mukrrw hnrr n Li;:Orr drnlh rnN ftuw rrnronry nr/:rP dinrnva Ihnu nuucuwkiuK mabn, hnlt ilt i, uut :dror IUnI Ii:r ars,~ri:rll,u h:rv rsomnl utpuiliranrc. ` Itt.'I'tann'. nIr.ICurnrgay,nill,yml l,nbnrk? Alr. I(uu.Nrr.tr. :\nntcrr wl' qurslirnl. Isn'L Ihul >:I~lrmrul in Ihe report, 16at. Ncns maJe /o ,ynu hy 16e Flrrriul Aclli-al,v' ('nlun:ille:.( l)r. 7'ra:nr. '.Chnl. is rigld, and I. )vnulcl lilu In rnll lu yuur nllen- 1 inn--- Afr. ICultNrnn.. And Ihnt sn},s fhat, it is not clear thnl. Ihc as rrein- linn 6ns rnctull si;;uilirnnre, i~m I. Illnl, rio-lil ? 1)r.'I'r:unr. 1'on lur. qaul inyt r.orrrr/,l l. ~II'. ICUIWP:/IAY. ti es,Fil. 1(ul. nu6lvilhslnndin~ Ilyd. t;lnlement in l.hu t'e lorL pon nwl }'lett Ilepmtmrnl. put un Ihn front of a pampLlet, paid lor lly the Itlxpnvers it plcturee of flln repurl-lo the Surgean (;enernl for Iho pm'puse, of Iryinl,r to learc 111o'unpressiun Ih:ll. smnhing, :ald flte hrntl 16r nd- cersr etl'rcls of smul:int; olt Ilte 6rnrt as pninl.ed ad. by Ihr rrpnrt, isu'1.16u1. ri/;6tR I)r. I'r:mn'. '1'Lnl. is rirhl., nnd uul~' I qnulco franl, rnl6er 111,111 janl :Is yua Ilunlrvl, t6r pmeeJint± pnrul;rnph of Ihi>: repnrt? NI r. K uiw ra,t t'. 1'ea, v i r. I Ir.'I'wtun~ ( rrndin;;) : lu TOo rrwanlirr ruM of Iltrsr fnctors In coronnry Olernue, thnu>;h nnl prnren, su>,Iwrted .LrnuFly ennngl. ill Ln n nm.lur rensnn fur Inking runutrrurrnnnrvw ntinlnet them. it in nlao uwre Irrndrut lo nv.cllmu that tile cnl:nbli>;kvd nswn.6lliuu bol.Wnn cignrclte kimokinW nrnl cornnnry rlisonsc hnn rnuvntirn merullog lhnn to xnvtHnd JndRUmnt unltl no nucertninty remohcs. 'I'llnlC illlnlydialely 1'lreedr:a Ille, pali. I,hntynn lr:ul,:;ir. Afr. 1CnnNrr.Ar'. \ml yet 11m aulhor, tvhooccr he mig61 1Lnvn hron, rvnur.ti rigllt. br`Ilin:l Illa.t1 pnrnl;rapli in Illo sarceedinR pnrngrnph :nul in la,r"ro bnl:l lypc sn.ys: I t la uul. rlra r 1 hnt.ILr nusorinl lon 1Lns cnusnl sihnllicnncc. 1)c. Tl:nttv. 1 Ihinlc il4 r.lrnrly nlenns Ih:llu it, has unt Iweu proveo, Lul Alr. KumNI~aAY. In olller lcnlvls, pnu nre uotttelinR ou proven fyrIs? 1 nu u rn j n st n6n ein~. suaprnl s, is i.611t. ri(rlil, 8 I)r-'Planln-. Nn,vu}Ilml.innolcnl'trcl..

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28 t'II:AItR'f'1'b: I.AIII:LINI{ ANII AIKP111TISINh--I9GS nnd stvr I h:d. peupln i`rt Ihe Lrulh nhunl GrnJurl. lil;r rl{;nrnlins. lu thr cnnrac of lily sludy l cnnle across this aLu'tlluti fma: 'l'ho 4't:n19 unll ]/rng Admini.vlrnliun cuul rulv lhe nl¢nlDte enulent of fael.a suhl to Ilte PnLlle, permitting uicnlhlr to Iw preneul Ila n rnvldne nuly Ln Lhl exlent of 2 p:rla of nieollnc 10 1 ntflliun p:u'Is uf fuod. 'Phcre Is nn Nueh rel;uhtlion for tuhnccu proJncle, eveu tJmngh Iln> niruline ronllvn uf the nvorngc rignrrt.lo is 1'_ INNI parts in Il Inillinn, or nIXNI Linle.v :1:< Illlnh Idrul lne ns 1+1 h1 prrmiln iu ru:. n. H'llen I tnnenrerell Illin foct, I tll'rillld Ihn lilne hnll rolnc for our cumrrle sAUp Ly tho t:nncrecw, nud Ih:rt nns le!!Isluliun lu hriup vtnnt:inC prnlhlrls wnlw' Ihe N'cltenlt 1'ond Iwd drug Inws. I P:'"hnl'1',I =urk a hill nm1 Wlrn:int1'd it lusl April. tihu. Ihcu cuuqrnnlUn hilln h:U'P brru inlniJtn-rd 1 1 Iho nruulc r,Wr by Srtnllnr 1n.rph ti. Clnrk, if i'rnunylcullln. uud Sruulur Vrmlit P:. 6lusu, nf Iilull. \nolhrr tv/lltnKUe iutrro.vled fu Iho prulrlrnl nuJ brolruriuK Ir;:inhdiou nf Lts uwu i, Ronn- nlur P1:Inrtwf Nenlu9'flrf, nr (/reFnu. I dnu'r. rslnYa. In slrl nuy Vrugruss nn our Irilln Ihis year llnt hupe for henrluns urtxlI yenr. 'NnYPRU1Nli K l:vr 'lo utvY" Allhouf;h IrnltinS :Illlhnrilies say Iho fnlsl anll drug :Ipprn:lrh huLl:, thl Inn,xf. prolul.w% Irglninllun ul:p tnke .,,uu ulhrr Ibrln. 791c nuc Ildur; I knulv L, Ihnt It'ti Ir hentlod for notnc hh111 of Ir:i.Wliuu u Ihe luhnrco prnhlem. Nrnrly all wetlh,nl ruse:u'rhrl's, lwnl'ly all P:'Irlirinu Plqslrimis, ucarly nll hr:lllh ur/;:ndzn- Ilou,::wd Inuuy nthrr Irnl11u6 htlllr6luaIs uuJ Cru11P lutfc culne Io Ihc vunrhlvl,rn Lhut .uulethloi; hns tu he tlnur. tvn uwllrr tellnt wn:IVnns Ihe Inhnrru inJnslry III:U' nsc In hlla'Ic 1nectice nr( ion it in uhvimis I+1 wtf Ihnl. "nmm0thiua; a got lo a;ivc." t),rnehclnttu{( sriru1111c Cvitleneu :n111 :nnnullug nnLltr npiuton 1,111 dlulnln111. tUrenlly Ihe pculinlwu hns slarlnl ln swinF. Alhletes are nuw giving Lestl- mnninls :l>;niuvt sulukhrC. AllcPrllsing cupy Is bchlg loned Ilmen, with less npi>rol I-o youn/; Ixnple, nnd rii,mmllc ntls h:n'e 6een Ilruppcd fronl college nett'spapnra. Ilnly I'hillir 6lnrrin Ine., milh ILc Alnrihnrt/ IeI1dItIF the pnek mnnuC tvdlr,fe sulukel's, h:ls 1'tfusrvl lu tvilhdlao' frolu Illr. r:nupus. 'nco m,ist Itllpurtmtl rlcn'rlupwent, huvrvlq is a nUldy nrnv nenflng rmuPlelioll Ly Iht. Snrlfrnn 17eneral'ro Aqvl.vnry 1'alntnillre un Smolanir ned Ihmllh. '1he ennr udtl.rtl emnPU:rrJ nf ;uy'ru dnrLnrn, n rhruda nutl n nl.nlial.icinn. hns Ltrn ll'Lrkhlg s4ndily for Ille pnst ycnr nntl esPex-ls lo hnve Its reVnrt renlly for Pnhllrntlun lust mnnt7t. I Plydlrl. Ihc rlqnnt tvill he n reut "hlnrkhusler" nntl tho 1riGgur of :1 Ilrive tlwt nill end iu II:IUuual IPFiflI:111W1. 1rfN1 NKY:IIN TIAIt11111ANA Y '1'he r:lriaty nr hru1P lumwn nu nlnrihu:urllN snwkcA by lrr11nPS n few Ihnnsuutl p,.aple iu Illis roulnlT. ANillc hnm pµe+.ihl.v IleinC hnblt furlnWg, nutrlhunuu I+not lulmcu tu hnvr ruly ulhrr hnru11111 rlrrrlw. Rut Ihc nnIr pnsslvsiell nr it cnn briu/: n liur :Ind imPrirconlnrnt. 'I'uhuru iu /,.IUU11J'. nr Inurr, hnbil Gnnllm(. It hns pl'uvon hnrlnftll rlrlrla ItUVI I., pru6nbly mnrll eloro IrlLnt. Ihll it. is uut nnly hgaI t,/ prodmv', nlilp :Ind uae; wr nl'r luln Itnutlretls if limrn Anlly Iha/. It iv it hrelryllisile nf Ihe 4111 nud retvnrlliu/; lil'r. I luw lun/; nln thls obvlun4 imvln,uh-lon,y t;n u1rY f nnl tnld that tvlthonG pr,nupt nel.ion Wu clw usPtrt n:te of ihe o-oral. mrtlir:d rtlNlcirnphas In hlntnry ill Ihe next :!:i O1 S/l Yenra- 411re1y wr havc n rruponsihllIty tu nnrpelved nnll cornillQ genera- Iloun lo hrnll nff snrh nn nufnrlnu/Ut crlnl- Ah'r;nly tnannllirs nre rnnnirlg ru vsruw uf 11M1,(NA) :t yenr. If IhiN is 1"'ure, tchnl: tcnNd ~var he likr'! '19m ('llAntrr.tN. 1)oec I.h:rl:coutIndc ynln Itre9cuth.tion? IrJr. ITnAI,I,. 1'rs,11f r. Clm irnlnn. I I Iln.nk ,yun. 'PhnCu.+ntrrAN. '191:ntk,ynn very Inurh. 1)n h.ny rwnnbrrs nf I lle cnnmlii.l t'r have stny qnesl.iuns? ]lr. Cnrter? Mr. CAIrrla(. 17o yoa Itso 6obncrn, ilfr. Il/lall? Alr. 14lAl.r.. No, I dcln'Itimnke In6nnoo. Somn of Lho menlbet:a may lutvn Sren nlo urrnsiou:tlly tt'ith n virmr ill my Itocket, bnt. 1 Lave never 5mnkcll, untl i u.nl Ln.plry t6ul. I lla von'L. 4(r t'.I:II I: l.r:l, Iln:l, r u flI ,i-i~l,rrv..intt T lultr srrn vnn tvilll I t'IrAltb.rI'M I.AItn:1.INC AND ~iul'rnrl'ItiITC -IIIC3 >II Dlr.llrwi.l.. Ouuciulttcllilens:l nrrcuusllallil.lc.hetrr.io:rrs. Dlr.(lArrrlsrt. )'rs. Ath. lJo.nr,l, 11t1L I tiltnold git'o LhiS op, and I hol/e tllat. I will. ISId. 1 harn nocor smnketl n nd I;un lml/py lo sny t6ut. I11r. (lntt'rnal. 7'luudt yuly sir. Tllo ('n+ntnlAN. 1)Iwr nnsuuc 1iv+ L:n'e n Ilelvo1LS qeeclinu? 711r. I Idnll, t.hanlc )'nu very ume11. 1 am n,alrinl., tllis cpu'sliun reully nu tlm 5inrero gido. ti'atn' hill - and I u'onld vny Ille.ro have Inrn nlblrs tvhn proposed tba6 Illic mxtter lie rt'.forrrd to ihn I'ablic 1lenllh tiorriee. If f rolul'nll>er r.orreclly it Lan br/7owu tt plu't uf Ihe llnr,tuden5 Snbstnncrs Acl? 1 IIunk thu1. h:ls 6rcu une prupu~al, alt leasl. oe t'nnsidernl.inn ;,'iren. Ilu ynu tLink tlntt hll cil!Irrcl le GonoklnR *;6ould be ltrohihiled? Dlr. 1Jna1.1,. Oly 110, not nt ull. I dnn t Ihink tLis, is frasible. I dnn'1t hinlc it 1'ould he Ilnue, nnll I lranl. In Inltlcn 1t, vrl;t clear I tlo nnt. fh.vur this. '1'6a linAlunlAN. 1hn111' ynm' proplrc.ul un l/n"r t.' cttu `:tiwuk ln); pru(luv.lti slttlll 6c dleluetl tt, hr a1lnllernlyd'~ atlll yuu rnnolernlf, °f)nn, if ilt hcnls or t'nuloin= nuy pnwnnnns ur dtIIIrriuu. ::ub:,.lnurlo tcluc.ll luay rt'nder ilt iujttl'iuns tn uvers mldhr vn~ltnu:u7ur u'nal coudilinnsol' nsc." I ILti':uwt. Ilulll il i::p /ur frrlin~ Illul t'i(<:n'r!les dtt runl:till rfelain lwisonou. nt' dt~let eriuus suhvl anels. 1lr.liu,tl.l,. Oly1'es,t.Ileydu,Ihrre.isuul~ueAtiouabonl it. 7.6n Cu.InIyIAN. '1'hal (K'iw{ Irul, ltuu dllIil Ilr it f.lat 16n1 (nur l/ruhnsnl vIuuhl Inukr. ilt nmwlnlnrY Ilntl n 4hilnurnl of Inltnrrn prull- uets br. prt,hiUilyd in iul rr~l:dr t:nnmerco V 111r. 11uAla. No, I tluu'1 rt'nll 16r Lill l lmi lrn}', ~In ('llnirw:nl. 7'hr. CnannlAN. I Ijuotc, bnl 1'uu hnvo gnt in tvnsidnr ilt tcilh n161'r IRtt:t. 111I: lio.ll,l,. 1 thinl: yon r:,n plat~l, L1Lis iulrrprelnliou un il and in Jrfausn of my bill, I w:ud. (4) Gu~' Illnt. I tllink my bill tcas Ilto ~irst nno Lktl. trati iutrollnced iu Ihr In.vl..v~ssion of Coop,ne.es~ 1 n':Is nltom'tl.ing lo gol. vowr. inlrrest ln Illi:: 'rlbjrr.t, lo t,rel, snmellliu~ duno, au<l Illis hill It:ls Ih:lflrll tcilll Ilir.:ls::i:aanrl nf soma Imuple, nnd I Inldor~tnud Ihul. it cau bo read :c: Illr chltirrona Itns intlilntell it 1nu le re:lll. Nnll', if Lho t.uumlilltr. t:d<rs nc.tiun I wonltl hul,tl thvy tcueld ulnkt it, vely nleur iu nhy Irl;islnlinu Ilmt.Iht're. iti no inlonl iuo on llle Il:l.rl of the ('na-rt'" In Iry In alap nr Ilro6ibil. sutukiuRr, llttconl:e Ihis shnuld nut. bodune. A,c1clitlltrrviously, I nw nut lvrddc4lulheapllronchthttt I Ilnte Inken in In,y 9/1II, :nlll I tlllllli it. IIOCR 1'.IISt) Sn11ir. /tllt'NId(Ilt% \CIIII'_II Illn ahuirmnn h1ts put his /ingrr ou. Brrt. I hnvn rnwl(;6 aonlidcur.e in Ittis tonmlittee ihnl. 1 Icnolc it r:ut lcrlte le{!i:;lnliun a'hit6 is fen5lthln nucl ulnllt,rnlohn/l ron.ulunUlc. 'P6n t'LIAUtnl.l lu. I IlnIIr. uln' rollra.~nes o ill unilt'n4 null I hn1.1 l r qno, liuns Il/'.ro ualiulehdctl lu inlllly lulyl6iul; hulmlrrlv lo drlrlnp thn Inclc. Al.r. liun rr.. I npprccint~c t.Lat.. 'I'6o (lunrnmAN. And wo aln sroking just tvltht ia ildrnded by whld- uvlrr prnlmsnl is wntle tn q¢. \Ir. llnAl.l,. 1 aln hrutrfui rnr I:ho cll:t,ilInttu raisinr ilmt Ilursliun ho nnso I tv:mt lo m:tke uly iul.ruI.ion very clenr. Alr. ('% ¢rr.u. 1il''iII IIIrr6nirvlnu ). irld fur:tqurstiull?

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i1f1 OI(LA1iDP1"1'Y LAftI:1.IMl AN11 AU1'Pllt'rIR1Nt-If)65 1.6nsn judp!meulv. tiiuru puu url`. nut n scie.ldisl4 yumsrlf, .you c:wnnl. i'rnll%- ln. rorl uiu 16:d. 1111. . ju, l;tmrnl r. ur nl,ininu:+uf f 6e AJrinrrl,y l'uw- ulillrn 111'P Illly I11`III't' III:111 Illn 111tI![IIIPIII. III IIII`, IIFL Uf rcporL: lello Irsl ltied Le fure t hc ruunllil lrc I:ISI 1rn r. Afr. 1)IXurv. I Illiuk I6rrn i. u prrllonrlelanoe nf npiuinn, espett oltinirnl, rru 16is nnhjtra. ttLit6 tt,+n:,l. tntly uolico fron116is t)piuiun-- I menn frow Iltu liutliug uf Ihln eclmrt bully, bnt ol' utLer expert l/tulirs, yun :u'o lluiln currrr.ll in ynur n~:;unlpl.iun that.I mm ~ul;t saintlisl bW. I dn mrt kuoo. hr,te in ILIt ufbl Ilml. wnL'r any In.irnl, fnir:ryslem ynu t'uuld Ir,lro It:nl u fairrl' npl,rni:::rJ nf ILis qnrnlinn 111nn /llr nInIL- utlulu;{.1' I lml leus usrd I:y I Ilir+ Aririnnrl' 1'alwnil.lrc. Nr. (lu,rr:r.. I)id ,l'ou uol ade eom':Irlf Ihat uro du unt knurv Ilte awsc, tco I:uow Iltr.re. is n~IuLinlir:J as:;uriuliun ns ta Iho snloking of r.irau'talr.:nld lunt; t':uux:r? Mr. I)ISUn, 1 tvns rclyin;~ npun I hn eclrert npiuion tcllt`u l. a nnwerud 1Lnt qncsl ion. A1 r. l'.A Irrrat. I re fer yon f o 1 he I rn u,r.ri I ri, puge U6tt, i f f rnll reflrs6 yton' IlnIIIUI'y nll yoll l' SI ttl e111P111. 1"ou s:l,y iii yourslalrlwul. teilh reforrncotoll.lC.9RL Illa.t.the tvarn- inp; uulion shollld be nhnnl;rd In ren.d "ciRurclto smokint,r is hltr.nrdons to youf 6oalt1l" ratller 161tn "ulay Lo llnrlu-dnas to your hen.lth." Is it. nnt. a facl, A1t. I1ixm1, Ih:lt even ILe SInrE,muu (ienernPs r.mu- nlillco recormizetl Illn1.16e vnsL ronjorily of smolcr,rs do nol. wllfh.r auy dmm11gn to Ilmir Ilcn.ll It its n, m.snltof smol:inh,? Pfr. I)IxuN. I llill not slt,y L:vardous to your health. I said it is a Lnall It hur.ard. 111 is a Loull h Lnr:trQ. Mr. l::vrcrn. l~on wliti I h:l.lr:rl6rr 1 h:rn itL ump ho llaznrtlons lu yonr Ill'n1111? Alr. 1)IxaN. 'I'hnlis what I rt`cnnlwenl, apenlcing for Ilto fall Coln- missiun, I will rend it: VVn wouhl sug);enl, ho..tvrr, Ilml Ihr- .Inlomeldl iu ll]t. al/l4 be clmngrll by nu4vlilulinq Ihc tvnnl "is' fur t1Lr tvorJa 'muy bl;^ 6trmtsr it. Ip nurupininn fkal eil;urrIlr uuroklu;; Is n Lrulllr kna:trtl. Alr. (:.urrl:It. Even in Ilm faru uf LLn tillrgeon (iOI1lVnps 1a11111111IIe1Pti recogu il iuu Lllnl. I hee vavl, nr,rjrnril 1 ul' smolcern dn nul.sl ll'er :nly da.mnge lullleirhen.166asn,rtwtdtufswnkml,r. Alr.l)IXoN. 'I'hn 5urgeon I irner:ll in 16is report, fonnd n. Cn.usal cnu- nentiun. AA cnusltl rululrr.tion iu 16e. law Ine:nls satnelhinl;, sir. It, is uol. castml. Jtt is cnnsll. It. is reltltntl. II. is ille enlsn nnll efrel. in Invc. I f you shoot. r;ounbody tcLile idly shootin ~r;t bmi np iu the air a.nd il. (nmo dnvt~u aud pierct`d Lis Lr,:td nnd killctl him, yml wonld sny tLoprosint:declnlse tvas shoot.ing l.Lre gnn in 1,110 n.il'. AIItCAtrr.:n. Nudl`.liuilr.cnusr.hay6rlnprovedintLisclkae. Af r.1) IzoN. 1 t Lus hcen fonnd. Atr. ('Aaroat. An Ilssunlpt.ion nnly. Al r. Dl swv. I agree. A7r. CAItrlut. Yoo nro fanlilinar nilll Afr. ilie.lcam of t6e Blue R.iLbon ('omnlil.len, I snppose. Air.lltsoN. I nm fnntililtr lhat.lle wos n fnemlwr. A'Ir. Cnlrren. Dr. f7iclcitml 110 1)IZUrt. I nw, Sir. Ulf;Altl:'1'UYC T,AnNLINt: ANII AnVI'llt'rININfl--1!Ies 87 i11r. CAlrrr:m. All ri{;Ilt. Iltt tans in UInuiolle, N.C., Ia:AA yrn.l, Ilnd Ili:; lall: / lrcrt+o'ns l'clrul'Icd In lltn l.hal'lullt.f )Ie+ererr lln`, follootur dny. Inlllisheslnlvd: 'I'he I:ucrrnwrui, rrpnrC uu ::lurnklnlr nlnl 1uen11k mny Lnve Eren n 1.11 eleunR--.. Ah'. 1)ISUN. All I ltuotv is Le al;frell unttninlouely \rilh il., ,'u'. If Lo Ilnli luly rc:a`ryn/.ious nt. iLo ilue, lro SLoldd hnvc liled IILtm. AhP. ('nltrr.u. All right. '1'6is is \clltd, I Inn rending. 'Chis is his nMrd. 114, isn mew6e.rof t6ecntnnlillr.c. 7hr Icnmt InnJarlly nf euudtern Inrrt nul guiuR tn Ale nf enusr uf Ihc lunFv S,nm pruplr a'hn nrcrr vm"Jcc nl :III will IaI Imy; rnnrrr. Ahonl nll xo onn xrq' la Ilrnl nuwkhi{: ruu furilllnlr thc dtarlopuunI uf " .u.ar d IW+ luul: lu plupp` tvhn nro nuscrUt.lhlr. \C6l`n uc Iee enurnr nf Ihe Inng, rve'rrt Inllth~g nkol.lho produrt of It t.mlplex Idnlo4irnl rrnrliou with nuury fltcl.urn In It ' . Not. jast one naf, j11sL snlnlcing. II ieJnun snit~ Ilo folt. - Irnp1V /:hould Innk nl Ihe qnovtlnu nirJerllvcly. '1'hc mucr tve Inok at Illc ntnlla- IL,y i hr muro dllll, ~nll I hr ruuurrq Iou tcnt I n uutlrra u ud. '19rr rrlaliuuvhiP brltfern vnluklng lurd ranrer aax not nu rlrr, n. ILv rnw +I:Ilisl irn nl'Ir"+nvd I,, iudirn lr nl Iirsl. Iir Iu11trJ n6nrd sr.u:r nf Ihr nlhrr dls~;rsrs nllrRrdly cou+:rd Ig' raunkluf:. Iir rnllrti curuunt'y hrart dist:IVe "yl cerc luu'6 mlll lu rrnrk." Ilr ::odJ tLnt Innn.1' fnll,.r.v crrc Inc/dvr,l, Int.iutling Jrc, rlhnic gro111L nud nrrIIPaniull. "Slnnl<ing Is ,illkt pnr't of thr piclnre Ilt cnt'nnury hcart Iilarnse. A slnnket' mny mrrrly Ira Ihc kiml ot pcrann tfhu Is nwrn >;usrrpliblc lu hrnrt Jisrn.r:' I)r. allcIcnu ndmilled IlLnl. "tcr slill Ilun'I. Icnme 1hre clul"'e of tul rhy- Iema.," a rnndition in lvhicll ILe Innp lose t6eir tuornlnl hreulllint; rspacil;y. 'I'hr Slulhqirn rr,nurrlhrR rmplq'nrmn tcilL evmlJuC nrr frrP ::1Lnltp. \\'r tlu hunw ILnIW n>;rrola nmuy lua1Jr tclw unwkr Im cr trnphc::rma. V1'hru puu tcurlt lrilh Irulluonnrp tii~rnsr ns I do, pu lrnvc n Nmtivur7~ Itr Ihiuk Ihr ,ch"q1 tcurlJ hn. nme - 'anrar or odbrr ntu- rll,crnc,w. i:nt ,rcq'budy rkN`su'tt t'Icm'tdle umldeg Is ntwh lesu tln/;ernas Ihnu nlcuhul, 1'trr es:turVir. ynn dmi 1. sumkr, thrn go nul nnd grlI inlo n rru.v6. Frunt trhnl. Ilr. Ilirlunn snyS, Ilnd llo trnv n tnemll`r of Ihi:: bluu ribbau rnnlwiltrl`. yon depcud opun so 6eevily, Ilu`re shnuld o.lsu 6e tcnrnin~s nn nlcoLol, should Iln.rc ool.? I ask yon. Alr. I)txnrv. Uoelot ot' Cnngl'ossmmit - 1 hnvo hind In unstver (his tursliou Illis tvay. I lalmv of nn dtilor Illa.t, lvonld say. I aslcttl I"atnrs lhnint; our henrings rvlrrthlr or nol. dadurs did not af. I imes Irrt:cerilw Iha dfinlcinl; of alrohulio bm,' rrrs, nud Ihny sn.id "1'es." I snitl, "11'ell, do yon lcnow of tuly dtKdor l.hni. .eonld presv.rilre pns, si61o smolcing of t'.tl!luol.tes?" 'Plw flaInt's 1I nslccll tllttt, I:Ilcy lt~tnr. ctl:q positive Ihey would nol. ISnt,l poinl.ILisont to yon. Alloltolic heveral;es tun lie.ensed. 'I'6cy Ilre nouirolled frnm one eud III Ihe nIllor. I n fal'f., .)'un nunnoi, evnn sell iluttless you lln.vr ;t lirtusa, nud trr M1e6llle lirensr Illera:uvi cery ril;id rrrulot iun:<. 1Vo do uot, hn.ve thie :Ipldyiug, iu 1hr ci;,mrrt.le tnarluI. Ynu ttul Imy ILt~.nl u uyndlere you c:ul lirld a nlarlline, t'vlu i f ynu :1 re I crars uld, ~nn ran dn I II:IE. fflr. 1',ttt'rr.e,. lirlrnrdleas nf lvhnlyuu su}', Mr. 1)ixou, I)r. Ilitlcum, a membt`.r af IlLr :ulyisory comnlitlrn cnys: Ilir,:rretla. .uurltinF i:c unlrh le~r+ dlut{tarnlrv ILnu nlrnhol. h~r o.muplr. \'uu ~I~~nt .m.du.:md 11rru nu uul nurl tfnl irdo n rr::,lr.

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72 CI(:AItI:'1"199 ).AnU1LINII AN11 AUVICA'1'IR7Nn-1!IUfi illr. Nr.1.sEN. '1'h;nikynn,Afr. 1)ixnn. Nuss in the lield nf tulvrrlising, ss6nt lrnldrl ba (lie nppruueh I.hnlo'uuld Lo nmdu? Ilnsv sruuld yuu nlsprono.h--1 nnlired in your slnte- mmnt. 16;d. yon referred tu the trrnds ill udvettising, n suciol asset, uwuliuess, Irolnda rit.y, u.tud 1c6nt 6uve yon. l lnw wrnlld ,yoo n-Ilhroue.k ILs( pruLlau In dilnle sur,ll nu imnt,mj I nnl.iroyon h;tvo `crrrnlanlid' ill ILere, 1.nn. I jost wondered Iww ynn wnald ehec'lc thut nne4 111r. I)Ixnx. lYhe.n we issued nnlirc uf nmr prnpatied rnlew on 31nn1- :u'y 18, we Set furlh the Ilrnlronrd rnlrv ILnI. svnuld, Lnd we followed Ilnnnf!It un IGrm, hnvn,r.nun inlu ILis IieLl. Hnltcn w:'1'a sunn ndvine.d :sfler our nunumteelnenlIhnl. 16o iudosll;y itself was 1timlinR ilse.lf IngelLer nnd wits orluldine it e.nde :utd they tcean hiring a I,reldlem:m namesl (luvc'Iltnr Eleyne.r, 16o fnrmrt (iusernut of Netv.lersey, giving Lim rn/her eslraorefinnry Poner. If vnn read 6hnt eik:ueltn taxle, yon uill find tto.l. it. bnsirnlly is ;timal at these types nf prnblems. So willt Ihis 6nvin}( breu ncrowlrlished by Ihe indnstry, a'6en sre cmmp In tlml. noinltre did nnl. dn:rnyl Inu~ on I hai. 1Vn ill a ven,n nre tcnilinh innl 6uping fur tolunln.ly ehunl,m in the Induslry. Noo, uut)~Irn vnu l;nvu hreu nnl ir.in~ Fulll(' 11f FlIe n;Il'11'lltillllC. S8y n. 3mur ~/nct. itL wns not, nnusnnl tn 4en a rather prominenl_ ulhlrle or nrolmne.nt pnblic lil;ture in nu ndverlisernenl, nnd lm snid- tvell, Ln lod Leen swnl.ing V 6rnnd of ti;{nreltes for 25 ,years. Nnn', if you I h;ed a nuul like Crnr.ylehr's I lilsrh sitting ap in the Los Angeles Rauns' shldinut in ]..os Auf;eles, whn tvns a grenl, fool.b:dl player and itn idol in ILe ymdh nf Anwt'ir'n, nud I;r is sdlin;g Isere tnkinr a big drag nn a cigarelle, snt'iul;, "I Lnce Leen mmnlciug Ulenl for 26 ye;u~s; l tce.ll, Lhr'. Icids ~ny Lhal ~is n wny tu bee u. ~~uorl fnnlLn.ll pln,yer, slnnkiug r.i!tarelJcs. 'I'6n I. t.huoRldl jos6 cnu:es uol. j ust. I ike I h:tl.. nrr. Nt:t.sr:N. 1 wnn1t1 n" ree IhnlI erttnioly if is IhtI hope nf Ibis cowusillee, ouy netiou Ilutl sse Inlm tcill be lu disrournge yutdh frotn usiug eigu rel les. Air. 1)rxn.r. 7'Lte indaslrv Lns wntle ILese ellnny!'es, sir. '19tey nre :luing Illeul nuw. Ynn will nnlioo Ihn,v PrumiSed nlso they nre going to npdale snwe of the girls 11m1 mr. on Iheir ntls. They all nv'd tn Inolc lilce Ihe,y were high schonl rhildtrn. 1'hey ;Ire very nllrnelive. 1 dn nulIcunm Lnw you defr'.rwine nn age, but. I nnt.iced ~nno of them recently whea'e they Rnt. t,he age in het'nnse they snid itt was a class reunion nf so nnd sn. Mr. Nxa vu:rv. A1r. 1)ixon, l trnni. to t6mlk von for delnying the appli- e:q.inn of the rldtt tlrnlt yon preseuled, ltnd I ;tilso ven.nt In express thc Lope ILnt we t.an draw sorne kind of os. bill thut will he sntisfne,tnry, nnd 1 hnpo tLis Cungress will pass slrL a bill. 7 do wnut to also e.xpress tlte feelinl,+l.hnt I:Lem is u t;rnat. dnnfier of n. G0qInle npprnnch willt diffmr.nt Inbelin~,r prnblwns. We r:ur into tlte snme thing in the t'tnuliug iudnslry iu Il;e fnnrl :snrl drug le;;ircl+dion wlLOre tLere is I h:d dau;pr. At Ilte snnm Litne tce do rt~ivh tn Iqring to Ihn adtrntinn of the yonlll u f~A merien i hu prnblent I hey n re f:l rrd ail l l. I h;rve uu fnrlLer qneslinns,llfr. CLnirnuut. 'I'lm ('unnantnN. Tlr. 1lison, vnu raitied n qnes/iou n Inowrnt ago Ilnil is uf somn intere.st. to me. ~ I um nnt- stn'e thnt. T go a.ll the way svilL IlLe implirnlion~ obnnl 1111, ~;rul foolhnll lrlnyer nnd his smrdcink (IIIbUtP'I"n: I.AIt191.1NC \N11 .AUCPIIYr141N17 I l/flfr /a IN'lllr 11. IIIUII\'lllinll Ilsnt rnusos utlu'r yomtRA ers sclru sc;tnllu plnp 6mtbnll lu sl:nI smnklu, Non') yuu orro n. I;rell. funthull Illncer (f rrnotvn, n I;rent tpmrfer6ncl: nt. \'awk'rhil6 I Iniversil y. Dlr.llunN. )'oohacey;nLnlmtg n:entol,ry,Tlr.(9nurmnn. 'I'6o ('u,unnlnN. \Vall, 1 du go bnrk n fesc yeurs usy:sIL I Ilavee tricd In pkty n. lilllcs fnol6nll in lup Limn evnn licfnre ymu.. I lcnotc sawetLinR nbnnt. il.-.1 (lo not Il;inl: il. 6ns ehnol;ed 1.6csee dnrs . srnne- 16inl;abnol.lkegeuernl,tllilwlenl' cominsters, foolh;tll plac'ers. 11'hen ruu teerv 1-ning Ilu-angL 6ilj"h srhmnl ;unj nrer nl. \':nnlr'rhill, I iw:n,iue ~s~nn Iiml ILr. In~rr' In lulcr a Gsc liullv nll' n. ril;n.relln orrn~inuull~, did wn nnl.? Alr. UlxnN. l'on kuulc, T/r. ('.Imirwnu, I was so sm;sll I o'ns nfratid tosnlulce.. I po6 olf )Ir}'smokinR tndil I fnm;d rnyself mnrhinfg fuul.- ball and I.rying to..learil Innv, nnJ I st:uled bnunning ciRareltc's ull' nly rnnounnlo nnlil llo (inallv iu~ia;rl if I 6ncl lo Lanc, d., I uurldIn pny fur i/.. I was nbnnt.')G Itl Lhnl t ime. 'I'Lel'.uao:nrsN. ISut. cnn 6acr'ntserled m;ut)' af Ilte fuolbnll plnyers stho o'tenled In slip ull' :nnl trunkl Inltr ;1 sanllc ;u'nnud Ih;, LI;~"Ic nnrl gel nlcnfrnull.Ite runeJr. 61r. 1.) tsoN. 1 hure bren SatistieJ they wnnld 6;tre hrru l,rtlrr f.lnlluall fIlnyers if 1,6oy had nulsnwlced. 'Plle (%nnrttnnN. \Vcll, l.hc rnarhrs altvnys txinteud tlmt. 111r. DIxnN. 'I'hov nltenys ins6le.d uu i6. The CnmmIArnN. The rroint is I doubt Iltat.ILnse bnys--nwl I franlcly ndmit. 41m.1, 1. wns nne (1f I Ilem, It.nd I net'er wns mi ince6crnle sotoker, unit 1 ntn not. nnw hnl 1 do uoll helievo that IArnv ever mutiralr'J Ls4 nny naJinnnl :dhlete cilliuy up nn n high 11eAIPSt'nI tin111eR'11Pr/ s114;1:iug. 111c 1)Ixnr:. '19uy did nol 6ncr au)' nnrh nrlterli,:.in,± Ihru. We r:'I.v rarefully cminlnred nnd resrietrnl tLe wn.jnr adt'rrli~inr prn_ krnnls of c.ig'nteltt's wfly Itnek mer Illo yrns. AVe Imd slide. s1Irnuv In us, Ice stuv Ihe l;ir.huiznl.iou n, 16et r.nme, 1111, dill'rrrnl 16rusr~ Ihnlwern ~llaye.d, and yon could nesul1' t'orrelale wnne of tl;c'se Iltnrnes tvilhl.lso-hey;inninRnfso;ue.stulislivsnfs111okI11g,e511er'.n11IY WIIIIIIIIIII'F. '1'ho CunncmAn. '1'hn ]Inint I wuntrd In I.ry 14) rle:u' up a'u, Ihal. Lnmmllitg is Iltn snme. Irnlay nc ilt nns u qunrleruf n rrulul.c n~ru. Alr.lhxnN. ll1 is nnLl,ninl! I.o c+h:;n~,m. '1'Ito (hlAtnnlA>r. ltis guinglu be Ilte :+:unr. Id) yenrs I'rnm um". A1r.DIxoN. Yns,sir. 'I'l:u (;uAlnnrAx. And wlutlnver yml may do by rnleuntkinl; Ihnngh, w6nlever tLo (%onrnrss way do, if auylllinr, is not. 1!nint, to elmnge Ihe Iwnuul nn'tm'e nf t.he individunl. H1r. lhxox. And il+ muy not frightrn too nlnny, A11'. Chninn:ul, ter';utsn all tlte stnt,isl.irs nnd opinion ILnI. I have he.nrd nu this =n6jn't ls ILrtII I.Ills ls n.OAnn111aI1Pe thing. \ nll i11115t. 5111.'llte for n Inn!~~ perlod uf I.ime., It kind of reminde mc nf LLe /Lin}; ~ehen I went. oR t.o wu.r in 1Vo19d 1VIn 1l, I used tn vrondor vvlly ever.ybody, wheat ILey got. to sllonting at you, did nnl, tm'n nrumnl :tnd rnn. 1 0»nlly liqutrd it. nnl. Ile- rnuutc, 1 snid, svery pne of ns is n d;ul6urned opttlwst.. Somebody is gnin~ lo ~ret, shot., bnt, i L ai n't. gui nl; 10 Uo me. 'I'Ite C1rA>Irzncnrr. \Vell, flcat, is n 1*ood woy to lunk atf it, lmlnnfor- Imintely nfler you go dmcn Ihem line likn some pelsuns whnse unmes 1 ;,,;ild menl ilm, yno tennld find 111111 . vnn ivul lou;; ,cinte pn"e;l I he Idarr

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(n) F'm' Ihc pm'Inmra ur lhls Arl, rinllrl'I:Iv.r Hhnll 61 v1.uHlrlrrrtl In he InIw1.N1111I141 IIIIIItJN tYll'll Iu11IY10(nll INI,knne In 1\'Illlal Nllvll CIg11rM.lTH nl'e IINn11II,F ..dd Nl lke ulllulnle cuwluluer (n'hel:hcr Nuck INlrlrIkr.v w'e I:nltlludivklunlly or 01 ,1 rnrlun ar n cnsc ruululnluu ro/rrn.IlNm uul. pnrkug(1 1rnH prlnlrq on IlN ollisltlu dlr frdlolrluk lu rlenr, legllrle, nn0 Iriu(nly risihlr pfint: fl l'Pke nlrulIur tunleut nurl Ikv Ilu' ruulrln al' 1111 Inlnl Ilumher ul' cll;ur'cldrs in d.kc pncknRc nud ('l) `llllrnlnK 1',mlrmIa A111J 1tr I lnlrt:r~rullN I,. Ilrnll.h". 111) 'I'ko Inlredurl.luu, nr Illnuulllclnro I'ur IutrvldntVinu, lnlu rulnmrl'/'I, or IAn Nnlr. nlhacllving. nr uRrr{ug fnr aulc hl cummrrrr ur /kc irnuwimrnlllnn or r11.Ir11ruLWU Ill rummwrr: of nwy .I1:nrrllr'r uiJell m're minblvllldrll wl11161 LLc lur:ulln)g nf Ihf.4 Aet Ix uulnlvl'NI :uld Hknfl I/c uu unfnlr lnetllnd uf cunpNdll.kwl, mul nu mll'lllt' lulll drl'rpt.lrn url ur prncl.icc, lu cnummrcu uulicr Ihc ktvlel'nl 'I'radr (',imudsNinH Arl, (r) 'L'61H arr.lluu clulll uuli npp13' A1 nuy cumnmu rarrier, cnutrnet cnrrlrr, or fn'Ighl: foru'lu'(ler nl I'/:4IN({ //C l1113' elgltl'1L11:4 NIIlililell, LI911Y]MII'tPfl, (Ir dellvelCll f.,r aWPHlrnl in runuuercr In lhe urdinnry /uul'sc nl' bnuinesu. FINn1NnN Sgo. 2- Tlw tallllirenw keFHil9 nlnkeN ttle f1/1lnWillg flnllfllgN[ (it) A Netlernl Prngrurn Ilcnlillg wllll rlgnretle inlwling nld n(Ivefilulllg In &`HlrnNlu lu praritlc nrlllunnl Hulfnrmlly III Iuboling nml udverlWing reyulre. 11t19dN frH' I111` eiKllr(ite 1111111N11'Y (9) '1'he Prmincllun, PrnevsHing nnll diHlrlLutinn of clgnrclles, Ihe emplu3'ulent /ltreclly /ultl Iwllrerl.ly rennlllu/f 19rrrfrrnn, nnn tho revruurn drrlrrrl fronl laxnx hnPUHrd thereun, nRerd comulerro Ilnd the nnlinnnl a:nmmlly. ' nx;tll.nnnlnre OF rnqux 8xu. 3. It Is LIIII IN/IICY t/f tlle (illllnl'CNN, /111(1 Ole 1)IIrPIMAf tlf IIIIw Act, to eutnL- 11N1r n r.lrlllprok,vv/lvc lfodlrnl Prnnl'ulll In drlll lvlln clgnrnlle In6rllllg nnd nd- verLlNing wllll rlwlleet In 9ny relntlanslllp 6etwecn Nnmking and health, where- Iry_. (n) IAe pnbllc rllny Go ntlrlla11c1Y InfnrlueA tllntt rlgnrclla Nlnnking Inny Le hnzurdo9s to Ilenlth by Incluulun af a wnrllillg to thnt e.Rect on eneh pnrlm/;c uf rlRUfrllr.a. (b) (Anuulrrrn mul tlm Ilnlimml ecounnly muy bo (I) Prn/effwl tn lllu nulxlmnln extent. rnnslNtrnt ailll IIIiN drr9nrcd poliry nntl (11) nol. Inqretitd by Iliverse, nnnnnlfortn, uuQ confuHing clgnrette labeling umi ndvertluing regnlnfionH lvitll reHVCct I:o nny rrlal1u11sNlp ktritveen Nuloking nnrl hrnltk. AnAIINIfiI'lIA'1'lUN' 1N'n I'INhIr11/1h:21N6Y'f Sra. 1. (nl 'fhIs Art. s1clll bcrufarcrtl Ly lhr Irr11r'ral'14ut(r.Onuuuivrvlun Inlde.r rulrv, rly;ululilruN, nud P:''N'"(hu.c.4 Pnrrillyd fnr iu Illr Llllrnll '1'1'nI1P Cununis- slnll :Icl. (Ir) '1'Ln Ibumlir',.ilru 14 :udhurizld In/d Ilirrclod 11r procrufi nn3' prrxnu fr/roe virrLtliup' Ihr pr,rrlnlruw nf xocli,nl :S rrf IbIH .\rl. iu Iln. NqnM Illllwnrr, Ir,Y th65:INle ulrnu" nod wilh Ihr .nulc jlu'ixllirl;unl pulclru. :IUO 11r11io.. nH ILuuKll ull nV. plirablr IrrnlH nu/L pruviniuus of Lllr Frtlrrnl '1'rnlic ('rnuluisHion Att avcrc iN- rurp,u'nLrrl InLu nud m:ulc :1 Pul'L ul' Ihla .\rl p:md nuy nulh larxun vinlnl.ing nuy yrufixiun uf awliuu :1 uf IIIiN Arl. Hhwll hr Hub,kvl. Ill t.l:e INNIIIll.l/N II/I(I lnillIrll tU 1110 prlalll'grH mld iuminui(.l/:4 Irrovidld in n:li/l I+1'dcnll 7'IhJc QmunlsHiau Arf. :IY III/IIn:II llln IIIIIII:rallll! II`rI11H 111111 I11'lll'IYI/IIIN nf II11! YNIII 1`tlll.1'11l 'I'1'IIIII` lilllll- minniuu Ael. Icrre 111rnrINlr:drd iulu nnll uladc /1 pnrl uf I.hiH Ar,t. (I:I 'I'hc Uullliui~::iuu iu :Nlihul'Irrll IINII dil'rrllII lu lnvti9'iLc Hllvll 1911f% IIII/I I'rt;ulmliuu.v :1. ollq' ho nrrc":u'.1' :1u11 Prupor I'ul' PurPuna:r rrl' nlllnini:llnll.inu uull Puforrrwrlll. nl' Illis :\rl. i d)'I'hr I IununL.:duN IH nuI hurlr.rd I.1 ( 11 runso IusINrl.iuuvl nu:llysrH. lr,d.v. nud ocaminuiians tu be tnnde ot nqr rlr:urllrH n'Lirll ll. hnN rrnanN lu bllilvr fnll n'ilhiu I:hr prolliLiliuns uf illlr Acl.; nud (L) aooUl1':Ilc uu InnLlofv rrl:ltrd lu Ihc purlNls.'H of t.11iN Ant w11A wuy dr(r:U'Iwuut .rl' nKrucp ui Iko /:ureruuuml.; nilh llu) Sfnln ur {NrsNesHinu ur .rllh Ihc Uislrirli of (hqunlhin; Irr Ivi1k nu3 drp:u'Inlenl., ngency, or 91rlllirul vu6diviviuu ILrv'rul ; or Iclltl lup- lll'r.nn. hal'Nrn'll'r: bxl'll Sra. 13. 'Pbis Arl'. Alrlll I:IIU l'ITrI't nll Ihr Jnlc uf Ilv cllncl.nlon(', csreVL tllnt slvaiuu:i(b) vholllAkcrN'rv'I.uinrlydny, nflrrl.hrIl:dcufeunrlunnl. 111.It. 'NI 51, (i11t11 ('nlle., 1Ht 5e.'a.) .\ 1111.1.'I',. rrcWnlr ILr blbAlnc I,rlll nIvrrtl.lnn of ep:Nreflrx, /ml1 fur alhcr pNrYl'er.x llC ff r1:urIrA hll flrr 4r:nlTn mld /loll.ve of Pr'prrnr:vdnffac9 of flle Unf/ad A6dr.v u( Avx,mirn in Couyrr'a rr-v.rmlNr,f,'1'll:d IhiH MC 1nulY Uc clll'll lIN Ikc "Lbtliv'nl CignrtIlc Inbrliu>; lull] Adrlrliuinl; Art" nh:F1NI'1'I(rNn ,.Vr:('. 't. AA nSl'fl 111 tllis AIIt-- (n) °(''IRarrllr" IntmuH m19 rnll of lu6nr4u ar nllmr nnh:dnurn rvrnpped Ill puPer m' Iw nuy Hnhslauco ulLrr 1111,11 lalrnrro, uud Intendrd fnr NulukluR. (II) °iluunnrrrd' nlenuN cuminen.e aluon{; Lhe several Nlut(:v rr Irtlh forvIgN lnllinns, or in :rrly tcrrilury ul' thc Iluill'A Slalvs nr 111 Ltle 11iNlrirl uf Ou111u1LI:1, uc irelwern nuy' slltil Ir.rritur9 nn(1 nnalheq or lrcl.lreen nNY Nu,'ll Irl'rllol'y nnd ully BIata or frrreiy;u nntinn, rr' bchvren Ilhc l/iHlrlct of 1luluulbiw und nlly Slala nr territnry ur fnrcia:n ualion. (r) "'I'crritury" Inlnnu Ikc INVnhlr pu.:Ir.Hiuun of Ihn Ilnilyd Rlnteu, the OmmamnmenllN nf Pucrlu lticq nutl nny trrrli.nry uf lile Uniled Htn1eH. (II) "Pt:rknf)R' Illl:I11H n T711k or bux, r:lrluu, nr roNlnWrr of noy kind 61 \vllirll ricnrrllrH :11'/ a9errd fur un1l, I:olll, or /,1INr(riso snpPlird In ,rnminnrrv. (P) LPI'Ynu" Illl:IIIH nll IIt1llvillnlll, Irlll'llmlAldp, rul'9u1'nllun, or :nly n111Vr LnNillrsa or Irg:d lmllly. (f) "Iblilt'd 41n11H" uuvulv Ihe tilnlls. Ikr hislrirt of Cnlunlbin, lulrl ILr Ivr- rllurlrN nud pnwrHNluna uf lhc Ilnllrll (g) "Snln or dlHtl'I6nlinn" Inehldrw nnmPUng ur nny Ul.hcr Ilintrl911tlnn not fnr sale. l.nwla.llil/ Srx:. G. lt shall be nuinn'fnl fnr uny Pervnll tu lunmlfnclnrn, impnrt, or pncir- nge for Nlde or Ilintrlhultnn wllhhl the IOJleti t411n1s nny cignrelllN We Inrknl;e uf (ehlcll fui1H Ill hcnr Ikc fullutvlug Nlnlauu I' "Ounlinn: IIi101re/le Rlnolring Alny lle 161xnrduuv Iu \'uur Ifeallh" '1'hr faro,,.dug slulrnuul nh:111 nPl'nl oil rltllvr nf Ilrr Ln'H Hidn InuNI, nf Ihl 9n/k, nr in I:hr rnnr uf it /'yliu/lrlrnl pnrk oN Lhu Hille Ilnrrvll', ill uut less t1n1n Irnqlninl type un n henlvr-Pulnl. Null)'. In Ihu cnHC uf Losra, ctll'luuH, nt' ennlniu(('u rd wuy klnll, ulher Ill IIH Indiridlnll irnrk, <un1a1N1NF rignrMhH, Ilu xlnlruunl s6n11 Ile Prloded on It Nlqc in not. 1em illall LNelve-IN/IIII". l3Te nll it fn11r1L`(11-P'dllt 1nIFl. AII\'1:Irl'1HIN11 flNa. /S. Nnlllluf! hrrvin ruldninrd ahldl lu rnln.lrlu4l to Iinllll nr lo rxpand Ihc awillurlly rd Ihr P'rrloral 'I'rlldr 1'owmi4eiuu Irllh reHplrt In Ih( I11.mnowiunlLm lu ruminrn'l. of nluc fnlsl ur u11.IrNdlu(; vqvrrliNrmrul uf rl:(nrrllrs. pruridrll Ilyd IOr 1'uumli.:.:.i,ru vhnll uul Irnvr uulhurily lu nu./' Prr,.rrdiup nn,lrr :up' .Inlrnc adnlhliarnrl by Ihr IlulnnliNUilru In ivIplll'r 16r Inl9uniou ill nny :IdarrlLerlnrld if allr slalr.un'Id ourrl'nluiz uup hnsnrd In nr:111I1 IncnlrrJ I11 .vnoq:iu:~ ~'ie:u'r11r°.< "nrrr ih,. udr/rli..rd riunrrlll.. huvu lu.rvl pnrku;rrJ lu rul,Prrudlc o'illr Illa lnbrIiuF Pruci:annw nl' Ilri:'. Arl. N.r I'rdrrol atb'nrr Hknl1 I'1quirr :uly' :Idllil iunnl rnull~.u'inh .nrlrl uu nn~ P:1~'lao:r Inb.bd 01/'unLrrluiic lc11111hb~. .\rl.

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t'IUnIIIYITr r.,tu4:1,lNU 1NU nnkb:IrrlfllNlr-_Ipar u'lll !,~u fnr n. vinl:ll.inn uf Ille unlrr Irp rrrlifyin;; it ovrr ta Ihn Allnr- n:y ( irurrnl fnr pr.u:tll.ies, vi1'il prn:tl/ ity. Now, if it tinal unlt'r uf Ille ('nnuuinsiun is re.vitIeeJ, n. I:elil.ion i. fi1rJ in :t lL~i. t.irruil rnwi nf n1t1ro:Jti, nu/l q recielr in t;iren (4) 1.6r, Ilrn~trtlin;;, 16en if tlrciaiom La nllirwo.d, Lhr, decWtln Lerunley Illn drvinlou ul' Iho /wni.. And if it /Lrn is violaled, %Ve Ro l.ct Lho rn11r1, a.ml lce Iwt.iliuu 16o rnnrln lu iutititldn rnnle.mplInrare.dings, n.ud l.hey al u lim I ivhttiever 16e, comt tlesirr.~ or fecls is urct~sary. So lun lluco uuep of Ilrn r( .ulc:a, Lhe civil ltenull.y roule; nnd Lllo nl.ln.r, I he. roulrutl,l. runlo fur rafulvvlnctll. of cnuytlianr.o. 61r.I)IN/n:l.r,. Nnrv,let.u:ollnll - I11r. Ih..oN. Nnw, tre ultin 61ne Iln lwlre.l, ('out;rv,.,;s ~aver ns tlm broid Itolrer ul' stx,I inn (I, le sen Lllnt. Iin:d orders :ur, bein~, lived up I;u, n/'nrec1111 rihht to cxJl ultuu a p:lrly lo s:ty: Nulv, n-c Imn, pnl. ILi, ordor a:mlunt .tuu nud lvc wnnt you Lo gha ns Ihe folinwin/; rruorl. puJ wc n-nnt il. wllbin, eul', du J1U'e. Nolc, if tlw ru-ly docs uol. I;ire ilt to us in 45 d:lys we qive llinl n nul.irc u[ Jef:ul~t:nld Llto,y musl. p:ly $104) :t :lay nutit Ihey f;il'o us tho report Alr. IhNnra.l,. Now, none (if Iheet, lrortld be alnil:rLle LLeon;,lt i6o criulinn.l rufnrcclucul pruredare.::nu I rurree.t? 111r. Ulcurr. No, siri it ulenus }ou lvunbl Lave tu brinr~ it uvr.r :wd otcr aguin. OP conrsr, tlley ruu ~nl, nn injmicl.ion, I br.liere. Chvp fa l l vpplC p rl I Il j ll l lel i Oil . l1lr. I)INUO:I.I.. I tlnn'hsecnuy iujuurl.it,n iu:tn,ybill5k llr 11IXuN. I Illinl< /Lore lc:ls une I6crq snwelllinq I unli:rtl /hern. iLK. LS01-1 prnvidcs fnr rriminnl Itrncoedin~r by injlulrlic: arlitm in- slilulwl ItI' Ilu. Allutnry (ienrl'nl. ' . ]t ic ou I:ago. K nndtr ion P. 11 . i,~ I ho litsl r.eimiu:lI pennll;y vrcl inn 8, anil l lun r'ccl.iun I) is in junrl ir-r.. DIr. 1)INwcl.t. All rigtlC. Nolr, lelI n)n r,l :1 lilt.le 151r1.6tr. I lcanld like lo Lnre rou Irll Ihn anuuuillvn, il'.l~on ttunld, Idvnsc, Ilutc I lmsc bills t+unllr,tm yy'il.lt ILe I:rn- ponetl rulin~ ur lvilll Lho lnvllnesetl rrr;nlntiou i9sqtd Ijy 16e lee.lerll Prade ('numliusion in Ierms ef fhn udyertitiemonls ycltirh nmct IHr- raltlel, iu Ierms uf IJIe ulnnne,r nf ndrrrl.isinq nr iu Ir.rma of tlle m:dlor Of I:Il:eliuk' hfr I)IZnrv OIle Itlin;,r 1 taln say In:lll nf 16tvn. None of t6o Lilis core.r:trlrm-lising t;xco.plt oue. Mr. Kngr,rs' bill, yrhic6 hxr6ldcy allvcr- tisint,r II sily:; nn feederal n~nuuy, it preempls it frn111 Ille U'eJnr:tl :tgency, It s:tyry all'e du uut lctudynn lo Ju!tnvllling :tlluld, ndvrl't.is- inul'sn I lutl. 114 nt. tl ill'eren:e runs 16rnur,h :111 nf I Imtu '1'he ('rt.yinvnx. I Ixolirte Mr. Nrlstn's hill is similnr In Afr. Rttl~rrs' 1411. fllr.l)ISnK. 'I'llerc:uc sevtral billsnf I Luh silnilnr nule. I mn nrin" LLn ytonl ilhornl.irell. , Alr. ('hairlunn, Lrru.nnc I:un nnlnn Ihntt thl+ bills:nr.::ilnilnr ill nltl,ronthts. 'IIIn (lu tltrnl.trJ. I brlicto nll nl' t6t billv hnn ILat iu ltil6 Iht :r celll inn of --- Mr. I)rxnN. 19srrpl Afr. f~inn'nhill. 'I'he (,'nemnctrJ. )'e.1; hisLill nu:l I Lrlievu AIr. I ftl:lll'rl 1yi11. c117Altler'rP: LA1tISLITfi Ann AnCrarrltilNn--196fi Sa bfl'. I)uurv. Nlr. lldnll'v hill, ton. Ilis nppro:n6 lconl/l dtrl:ln it In ho a 6nzanlutls prodncli nnd:tsslnu Ilic yshole. pfoLlew 6e 16e Foud :uld llrug A:lwiuist.ral-ian. BG. I)INarne. Now, I f I crodtl, nlon;,r Ihrse lines I yvuulll IiLe to Ireat lvillr t:irclouslmn'/:a Ihn6 ulighl ri>en in Ille ftdurc. 'llti, I:rtthillilinn ul;aiu:;lilliart'erence tcilL nJver(.it--ingtvuuld vifrdivtly Jeny :uly 11'ed- t.rnl n,enay Iln+:tnl6uril.y In Irctct.W.16e Itind uf netlurtlvn ndl~lrtisin{; ,a6ie6 w,:ultl Itud In mul;c Ihe cwukin;,+ol't.it;nreltesnnd I llc rd iliznt iun nf I nh:tr..n prndurk part irnl:u'ly ul I rnri iye. lo yunng penple ur lu nl hel_, silnilarly silnaled; wotdtl lend Indeuy,yuln' n;{en/y ul auy tdher agency Iho 'rolccr In hn :nru;.a Lha.f. eal.6er yn';nc linc lthtrr Ilw ::dverllvinl; mi;;ltl, uol. Le tnlsc or nlinltIldiu" , ur Qrrrpl iro, but n'llerr illui;,rlllstill nevortht,lrss Le in (lie nlinda of musl. af ILo pcoplc of Ihis rotttdry cle:trly nl~uiua IILe itlle.rrnls nf nnr 1'nul.ll or clrarly aRninst. t.he bestt i W eresnn f mv suckd y, nan I r.ntrat? Mt.1)ISUrv. [duuul.thiuki6e)'1;oquitotL:d.fm',(Jnurra5ul:n1 For intil:mrc, iLe, dn071till-:tutl it i>: 16o;;ulne l:luhnagt' Its S. :ililt-on Imthu 4, ner,l.iuu G i l. snys: ~ n:l to limit or tu exV:tnA Il:e uotLnt- Ivothiug Lrnviu cnW::inod s6,:11 Le :'to:~l lu liy' of Ihr Irrdernl'fc:d,- . l'ommi=aloql ~,~i/h rrsprrt lu Ihc tlfe.rwiualinu In rum- mtrre (if :ut) f:tlvv or mislvudiug ndvrrllstmtnt uf ,~ig::r:91ts, IlrociJr:i that Ihc Cummisinn xhnll tmt hnrn :uty, nalborilS in :tqr Prarrrd111R uudtr Iluy vlnlutC nJnJnhi/rod 6p the Onnnni.slnu to rrqnire the luclnsion In :un' adcerthemrnt of Itup nlNtemtnt ouuceruing any Itnzulnl lu htalih itlvnlvrtl in swulciny; rlKUrollus ,ehtre. Lhr mle(,rlixrd eigurrtirn hnc:` hr,n p:o'Ind Itl Coofunnllg ltith Ihr lm6Cl- L:R prnvisiuus of Illis .\rl. No I+rdrr::l :tt;rur,c rhull rr:iuire nny nlldiliurod ran- Iluu Nlnlrmrnl nu :Iny P::rluiCr lalmlrtl ht ~:odmvdl,v niil, Il,r Arl. I f I rrad I llnt rorrerl l), ilt snyw t.h:d I L: Fodtral 'll'utle ('olun:i:sinn slill 6nti IItc. rr:+Itonr.iLilily lutvftorrr iL: Inv~' a!+nllci utl::~ leu.diul; :ttly'orli>;iug, prosided Iltnnhll, Illero is ileliniltly tcllit(lell ant, uf Ihntt n.nlhutily ilv n.ulhnrily Ivilh m"pevfo to tllis yclrruiu~ tlldtlurut. Mr. I)INaoa.l.. I lcnnl~ ynn lo inlrrlmlIhis fur Ih: rnluullllre__is t6ern LLnu iu tho IPedtrnl 'Ic:ulo 1'nmwisvioil Ihe n.nlL.,rilp Itt :rwtuo 1.Ilttl.l.l w.lw Irtuvisiuns uf 16u I,l~lltuatd ruln9 nf ,yom rnlrmal<iu}[ :u: r;rr_ ricdold,'d 1"nu:rln f:uniliar 1cd616n1,. It says: No tit:,n41r ndr,aflisitrG nWJl slalr ur iluply hy ttorrl, ";u:utd, or demo:cil'iltiun nY any rombllmlinn Ihrrrnl' Ihnt nn:nl<iu1; I'~'OII~^Iru nud hrallh nf lnIl luing, Ilint il. Ix not n harard lo htNI11 ur in Irvu n lu:z:lyd lo hrnllh Ih:u: r.uudciu{; athrr Lrnnda. Now, <nn you Still rruth Ilntl. kintl l Livil.,y in :ldvrrl isln;,r nndet 16o rrociionvof Lhis bill or 5iluilltr It ~; itiLti.iun 2 11~r. 1)I.oN. I I:hiuk thnt nnty 6nyto bcen in iho l,ropnscd r:dee mlder nnr pnr:lgrlylh. 1V Ilnt, arr, ynn rrs.ding [ruln? 11'll'. IhNar:r.l.. I w:l:t 1'endinr Crtnu 1ntn lltnlloFed tule nn Imgn 1. 1 ,rn.nlt to I<nutv M6tILrr vou 1vmlLl I:o :Irnitd :Ildhtnily L. rufurm. :II.Itl\::N. ~I'IIIS1tIIVInU111'In"tl.3:II/OIIt(IleI1Pl11'lll!I{16r.unoIceput nul.iseu Ial!~tr i af I1Li~ltnul:. 111r.1)I~nr:I.r. I'at!e I. I lr:r:rrnllin!, franlpnptr I. Alr. Illz/,N. Trc,cir. 1VoIl,Ihr.unr.IL:n.lce issartl nu:l proruulLmted is in ILo lirsl, page. li/e hvld henrinl~ls nn 16e ',rolurvrtl rlJe nn lnlpm. .1} Irnll wo tlrritlod I hntI Lic i" Ihe ruL+ bnsrd nn tllo rrrm'Il I llnllce. ralnldtl 183110. Alr. IhNrlela.. 1Yilhnnl, i,rnin;r inln Illnt, Irl. uln nsl< lvu lchrl6rr ur rrat mn:nlrl Lo uhlr.l:, I,rrcrnl un:l:~l' Ihi,,q ;ultrlil.:ruirlll~ l~hi:lt liP

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118 OIGAIIP:'I"PUI LAItN1.INll ANU AI)VI-:ICPININII--1411i9 L11r. Illzant. Yes, sir: null ('unIt n~54lnlriell il in 1l114. Itnd rrally dn~, ll.npiulfla8:mdbnrictlilfurct'or. '191edurlriucafrure:l.lrnlplurdul~ nol, la'y- --- nlr. KuuNr:aAY, 1lo yotl hronn lu loll mo I:hat the dorlrlnn of rnvr:,t onlplor in Qoad i«Awoncuu jarisln~tnlunrtl lotlu.y? Alr. I11zuN. I .n,y lo you in LIn`w fealm nf fuhn nllcr.rl.isin;,r s6r i dmld, ILId. is enrrtvol, just ns drnd us CunRross tunlQ mnke it, Itnd ittu .rt tllo first civilirod wtl.iun in I Itc lvnrld (.hnt did it. 11r. KlatNltUar. ,Vrll, Ihal, is netls In Int`, Nolc 1rl nle hnl utl n'ilh 1 hi:;, 111 r. Chn.irlunn. 1'otl suy (llnt. )'nu Laro. 16r nulttnril,l' uutler illt` law I.u re/plirti allir- mnl ico,inleulrntn or nllvurl iain,~ nmt Inbcliug to iu fom'm 6he Anllrl'iono 11u1-llir. nbuul, rerIn.iu Iltlzarll4 tv6iclt Yuu t'onlend exints ill Illo prutlucl: utnw.ly v.i~nrel les. Nulc, Irl( mr. Iwint /lnl nnll rull In vunr alteutimi n l:tn' rrvlew :u'Iir.le Ilmt, is tnnlninrd in Illl` I1111C1`I'AIII of PeI111Ay1i1111111 Ln.Ar ltlr- rio.tr i~muetl I)c1:enlLe.r 1961. An' yal I':nuili:u' tcil6 Ihal L'llt' revirnnrl itlc, Alr. ('h:tirlwtn? NIr. IAxoN. I lunl it cnllyd lo nly :ItArulion lrhen I tr:ls Irstifciu4 ov<r in 16t'. Senntr, sil'. 1. nul 'I'euerally faulili:u Willt il. lUfi. Kn¢NU:a,tY. iIarl+ yuu rend it? Afr. I)IxtlN. I h:n'n srtnnr`d it, uull I do rull.n'Ilrrr tt'fl ll il., sil'. Nfr.finr,Nl,u~u'-Ofenm~nncnunnllIlrullllcnntic -.. N11'.111xI1N. YtS. AIr. KnlcNhu.tr. Aud I tcill rrrluiulc uQwil,lllnl alNVC rrv'irlv:lrlirb' iti nolLtu'. ISrll.:ll. thr rnmr, limr. it in n prndue.t uf It p!rrnt IIr,J ,d lr~o l n`crurrll dunn by qau li lild Ilotll dc, i:: il. nnt'1 nfr. I)IxoN. I wonlJ r~ny I6or :Ilr ~'unn;± Ilrulllo Lltnld are ru,rn;Cin;' in lekul rew'wrh, anll Illcy lur, rxprrssin;* 111nmsch'es, aud Illiv :Idd~ lt1 t.h/, bu/ly 11f ln.w. Nfr.KalNr:aAr. 1'rv,sir. kfr.lllxoN- 1'llat,iarol'mnt,tiir. Nr.Runraa:.vr. Aml wLile usnall)' Ihe nnt.Lnls nf ILrs/` urliele,:u'1' younfi lleople, Lltey Ilnen Juut. it nwlor Illn su(urvisiuu nf Lip6lk Lrninrdd null alcilled latcl'rrs Nchn nrn Ilrnfe:;sorc ill 16e vurinlls 1alr sr,6nuls, h.; Ill:drnul l'igld."? Dfr. Ihx11N. '19utl.ivcnrrrrl:,nir. Afr. KlnwIalAr. And, uf famr., lln Iluit'e.rsily of I'enns)'lvunin lv'Lir.h I Lrli('vtl uly flirnll Alr. ('.In'tin trenl.la is i'rrogrliztvl ns n ferj liuo l:uc.cLuol iu i111is cnnul.ry, i.ti il, nut.? ATr.1)1xuN. It.rxn'htinlyis,sir. ~ Alr. Kolcrvlrenr. Nutv, on p:lgo :1114or tltnt law rel'iclr nud in I61' art.iclr+ which [ rr,frt'red by ilL sa.ys t:Lis: 1'he Cumnrla,ulon clnlma n tIcnr In/unlnll lo i~'<Ilr Ihc prracul ordrr Iu Ilrv rxrr~asr ef I.hu wrvvur I,'alArd it 6y thc l+rdrrnl 'PraJn Onnnnlssinn AM ut'rr h'ndc prnrl:irnn, tt Irrnl vvhir9l Ip' .Imlitlul nrlinlt.inu etlcomPnnw`n nJarliisiur Itlllt hulh t0e tctn'll:< 111111 Iht` ki'lury ol' Ikr nlnlllir Inlir tkr Itununl"iau's r,~n lrnllun. Ilutlm sv.ctiuu 5(Itl(131 Illo 1'unuuissluu is eluPowured "Ytr In't'1"nl persunx, pnrlncralliPx, nr eurlelral.iol,n frmm unluy( * Jrrrlllirt n,q.~ tr prurlicex iu cmulnereu." A[ti`r ntu tld,lndi,nlnty krllrin/;, if it prm, llt'r ta' n.l wkirk thc (totnmissinu knn "rranun hl kellrvG (mt mlverti.er) w> knn koru I lY tIti111F" IR f1111111I Il('fCIrt14C, Ihe Cumulicslnlt u1nY nl'ller the oRennrr tlr "eonsv nnd Oeslnt" rlcAln'rrr!' 1AIIKIJNI; ANP 4bvRltrIRINa- 111116 !IU I skyp uu orer ill 16r infrrr.:ln nl' lilne I/l lllr Iirsl. l/nroriaflh Irrt pni'oau:i:nul qut/le: ht cnnr. luvr.lving ordnrs tu Cxrlsr n vahola Irndenmrk, Lkrt Nuprrmr Unurl. lum wnnril,uaJ uuly Ilr.r, cuu. ldrl rx,.lauun n.lnin.l In rur. Ihr drrtIdirn qnnlil.P if Ihc lrndrmnrk. Riwilurl>', rtntrla ImVr tliqltn/;nisOt'tl Illlirmnlh'r tfla- Plnvlll't "I11Y'csFlr,l'" 10 1`Ilnllllllll` It f:11Kt' slnilnlPllt or Inltnlt'nliun bf IIM itdrtr- tiuIn,nt IIrrIL nnq nI1Lnutliro t1i.,rLe.urr n,d. "uort~~. lU'1'" lu qivprl fulnlil'. Lnl Infnrtnulivc In Iht Iaunluunr. hl 11.4 nsr' nf Ike fonner, or "tnrrerlict° Ills~lonlu't`. Illu ('uuuul-lwl 6at mlyd rnnlitnAy n.n/ hna, 4rnrrnllY bivlu upkrId Ly IOr rnllrlv, In x1P'h ruMA. Iko p,nuwiusinn funri.innd pnsitlrely by renpnuding (u n pnrllrulnr (lrrt`ptlrl rlrwnut Ill Ille uJfl`I'lisrmrul It.etIr. iu tllis Lgp' ^f rns', Illc Itomutl.aou'~ uI'Ilrr /n rnn- dll.innnl: w, luulr n:, LIn. ntl:+nII rrwruIrtllnl t,¢lllhlur>+, llll nlitrumllvr dlseluellfe mnst roulinue. Fnr rxmnplr, It 8,111111 Irrnhnlnt cnmPnny Lhnt. rlnlnlnl II1 eauld cllre "nimnnt nll" Lnceu of 6nltlnlcu rlhl nolt rrvenl Ilv wlunl hnnivllvemsx ugnntat LM mnlu pulteru t91x+. 'Che roltrt uPllelrl tlte Uomtnlsslnn (orJer thnt "fnllnre tn dlcrlam Ihnt nplrrnxllmdrly 1Kr pi`nvut nr Ilte cnsls nf bnlduoss full tvltllin lhr lunlr pnttrrn lyllp Is plnlldy mtnlentlinl;, when Illt` Prtlliuwv'v elnim Ihry Irrnli tRrolletdT virhmll)' nll rn.rn nf dnldnrn~. N o tv, l ISI Pll t l l II l l s: On Ibn ol:h,r kauJ, Alkrrfll v. t"/Y', Ikc un1T rusr Itr ruIlnlJrr Ihr qurrlitm mlnnrrq', hrid Ihr. lbuuulu.fuu lnrkrd Pntcrr t.n ur/lrr nu lufurlualivr tlisrlnnnre W1U do~rriLrJ aurh nW hurity n:+ `lkr Iwtcrr In ronirol Ihr mark,.t6a/: of nll >* yrudm'Iv * a>' 'Ph Alhlrly enln'1. Jillen`utinlyd fln 1lulunlLwiuu'n rla;hl Itr ynsrrllrr "vurraIirJ' dinrlusuros frnut learpr lu ur(ler "infurmn/irr" dl.xrluaurep nud, in rrrrl'uiuR Ihr 1+'1'f:, rnuolnllod Iil:n. "I'inq[rrs. gncr Ilw /'.uluudiht fall af 1 hr f.rmrr Lnt tlid nnt Fivr il. Ihr lal I cr " Afr. I)Ixnr:. \-rlu :ure inikiul[ ;lbnul Iln Allhvrlc rnso.:lnll 111111 rn:r tlnslll`r`n Ji~liuuui:~.61tl in m:lu}' Irnrli,nlar". 'I'hs.l tlri/rr li':1~ Inll:iu' aLonll il. 11'1' crri dr n luurll hrlter l:llc rrl'iec: Ilrlirlr Ih+lu Illnl1 trrilrr dill,;ultl il.i::iu Ihi;;Lnr:i><:nul Inlrpo::r L,rirttr rnlr. 1,+a~pr:q 16:11 rnn makn ihis n IInr6 ul' 1'tmr rotonI, 6rlancr I Ilaro rlrnnrrl tilli of Ihi, Jnr.mnrld, v.llirkh is obnnb111U :ulll soulr utld Imtcy (.hesc Ilngrti Irr:uiuF spe,:ifitally npnn Ihr Iti'tnrivnl bnrl:',*,runntl nnd Ilte Ier+nl L:I:,is for Ilnl rldl'. All'. KaleNr:n.lv. I Illinlc enn hnve:lh'endv nlfl'rrd Ihal fur Ihe rrrnrll. Mr. l ltslrn. I Jn ruN. 16inl( it vcu.v rnrivtil. Afl'. 1(anrn~n,n'. I Ihinlc il iw iu 1114, nturd. - Alr. 1)Ixou. Il..vus nut.rerlitetl. 1.ulr>,esltd il. wld Iheu ('+/mhrrs, Innn I(o;;t`r~ snill hn did noll wnnl. Ill:li, Ilr .ruNrd il In br nltn't ':Imr.ilin. Alr. Itnulacs nf 9~oxa:;. S1"ill the. reullrnc'-~ 'ield? Afi't KnnxFa:Al'. YI`ti; I lcill br hapllY lo yIVId. hlr. lionra~cof'1'n~ns. Atr. (lltnirmnu, vc116 rog:llrl In 16i:+, I 16ur1!r6tt tLis tt'ns itu'Intll`d ill Illr Irtoyd. hlr. 1)IxuN. Nrlt Illnvr. c'Ir.nilir. 11:1Rrs Illu( I nuull refvrrnre Ilr. '1'llr LiR nue is nlnlln a phy::irnl Imrl, Intl 1 Zlo:mrd nall of Illnl Illr nln~rilir. Ilal!rs Ilcnrin;., npou jnrisJirllml frnul :1 6irdtrriral L:n'I:rrrunnd, +nld 1 I:Id rlfrrrrJ lu 11. 991iss:lutccullroln)' Ionl: plnt'e.Ib Ihe tieuulr:Intl ILrV' Imlcell tur. Iu I,u Iwr.k 1111,1 Iloliilenlo IIIr 1'ngvs aull senll Illvw In 16rw,:tn11 I 6nd+tcopy uf it.,:Inll I-r/frrell it tll ILat.Iimo,::ir. 'I'llo (hlnnlnfAN. ll lvns uul, intlutlyd in Ille rrenrll hrrau-r Alr. kngrrs tvns inlr.erol,rnling Iht'. n~illlrss nl I Ilr lilnr. 11r. I11xnN. Yes, Ih:tlM is riqhl. 'I'6e. UnnlnnrArv. Antl 11Ir. fltrners ~tslyd LLnI Ilr trus ul,l inllrtsl,d inlhnl.

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133 lnl/iAUPrPrPI I.nI161LlNu 4N1) nblbarrtvlM'- -I11frs lllr. ltnur:rzs uf Irxua I)on1 ~snn Iltiul; t'nu runlil 6nn't~.:aipprd uwin I lirrr. vn1'ing,'`)41) rnt Iliinl: I6al /6r .\uurivan taxlmy(tv un;;ld Iru.,nrl,lkal (lilll tJtoI rovl nf 16ru qursliuns I:lnt asking You'9^ Ih. IIutrn. ;\sa mullt~ruf farl,sir,lltvrr.orresrct~rnlilul~sli(runlt~l; iur I6n IruLlic lcL:tl. 16t,y ruunidrrril lnw Ilu. rnln of Uavornwrul iti =ur6 iuul I rrv nv ItruIi h. llr. l,'teu:It. uf'1rxn::. No; I ilitln'tt a:+lc vont 1.6:t1. I am asking ron I hi~. 'I6ati:: llio I ruu6lo oiLwdd il. \un Inil. Ihc ynrsl.iun in at uo~ralir~ ralir~ furni, ur 1'ua 11111 ilt iu.wuu(ulhtr nunls. I tfr:tll Ilm nlurS of the wmu (chu IuIJ a fullulc l:( lank up fnr Iriw, luok 6iq nwl Itc valtl, "I Ime is I16r. ftllalr stitl, ".A m:ui uaiil yun nnrie nott lilIn tikml) lcillt I6o hu;m uutl I said vonNcotv,." Wt.11, lol s uf I iuua yurt cllu rhuu{,ta 1 ktsr I.Itilt-s n raunj, unll suntrhndy}{tdNaldil{ereldrttiull. Ntm-,if~~unli.uljua.n:udlut.6omirnintilntiltlil plain Eugliv6 tLal, uvrlybnJy r:m undrrvluu(1, "1)o you Ihinlc tk., Awrrirut taxlra)'er ouhLltu 6e hr:niuyIL, rxprnse of ume. Irutinr ;i runl rnrI. lo rnuie nul Iwrr aud ask ,~uu I hts(r qursl.iuns," lehut, du yuu Iliiul<thrirnnxllrr lloulQ ltnl~c brtA 1)r. 11nmN. I Ikink Ihal. Ikc uvrnd6rhninR majnrily tl~mdtl hncu rr spuutlyd, Tts. Mr.ltuw;ttnof'1'esas. ) 'nnt6inlctllty(lunld? Ilr. IluuN. Yrti, vir. I Ilritllt IIiry rcitlturvd Ikis lL,y Ihe.ir axqurn- liou in Sn6utill.iutr lo Ilir inlrrei(m nluil IrarlirilralinR iu ILr slwly. t\Ir. 6tx:r:tus ul'I'rxuv. I)n )uu rzlrrrl In ralvr inlu snwo fulmr. cun~ Irarl.v u~illt souio ul' 16rsr.tiwct~1 INulrlv lu utnkt slnrays of 16is kind, Inkalrallu? I lr. I luttn. I nhould ILinlc I luil tliiti tctrultl lu, IrnrL uf uur cnul.iuuinr u611g:d.iuu lul,ludy 16e ualun+uf Ihr IrrnLkui tutd hotc i6 t:hnugrr:,wor 1hn t'rtrx; ycv,vir Alr. ltuuttlw uf I'rsua. lYuuld yml pul. Iltal. qacti(inu 1 usked in 1Lr mxl.swMy Y I)r. IIouH. I muvt vurlttiult' tcnuld Ln hnlqiv to inrludu it, sir, if I Imt'n:uiy r(pouvibilily fnr trLul.rurti inlnl6tnqttcsli(rnnnim BIr.lLx,n:it!taf'1exas. \\'rll,uu(t~,,cuil a Iniolde. lYhn lcutdQ Ionr 16r, marou.silrilily 1'or I lull.? 1)r.lloatN. I iwnr(inul6nt I willbtilicnivrvliuit,sir Afr. IttKaa:N uf'I'exatw. Wc11, n uinu in yoqr potiil.iou lt'uldd, I)tti.lur. 1 uw:tn y-uu mighln rlmngo povil inns, Irid, n, w:lu in yunr pusil.iun lcuult l tlclerminn I ltn qAtnal.iong, aoUld bt nul ? Ilr, 11.1104. vtF, Fit 11fr. Itum:¢tiof'Ibxaa. OrdnlLoaunlysl Imulrle%VLuget.lltrroWrerl (In IL:t( ? T)P. IfJptN. 'IYIIR depend5 un t.hn n:llturt of Lho conta-ar,t, cll'. II, Is lar,t;tly a ut:tl.lrt' nl` tchnllu,r or nul. you :nn melcinR 1.6n Irrufrsniou:il tvn,sull.alirttt rcluted tn I.lio aru:t ttndor iuccsligat.inn or prun:uily Iko lirld .(rcir,tl of an naltiido cotnp:Nty. Mr. Rnuu:r,ti of'I'es:t.s. liult you frcl like, loo, 1)uo.lor justt as I)r. Tcrrg dnrs, I hnt lhis is llro propprollirc nf I r. oltl of Inlb~ia hanll.k fnr Y.n I.u Irt, oul doittg16in snrL nf ILiI¢( ? 1)r.lfurzx ]'ns,sir. Tlbitdctlml,ilis imrntisildoln(loalwithnproh- letu of 16o mahnit.nJu nf ILe oi{±:umlln ssuoicin;, probloln wil.hmd, lut(~, iur :,a lrrrll,v r(,Inlrlcla uuJnr:;lmiding, uf a-hnl Ihr Iruldir is duiug ailk n;g;urtl lovmukfug, lchnl Ihwl' Lrlirve rvil Ii rr!'~,iril Inhtnukiut~, uwI ll~llst IluI~ilf.rlh; ~i~ 111:hlilcrT41 IARradNU aNP .vrcrarrt"INU 1965 I:{:1 11r. 1Gww¢v uf'Ibs:tti \\'Ly dn yun Luct, Itr knuw lludt if yurt Ictlc tJrmtdy dctcrwinad 111111, ciru ecl l(,I sutuk iu~ in Imd'! I)I. I Iuurr. Rrrttn5(,::ir- i\fr.l{txte~lt4 nf'I'esas. lYlty woaldnI, il.becltrnper jusl.lnlumd 1Lrw :I p:t{;c suyiu{C, "If ynu smola+tirnrellrs yon Itro going Itr din nf luug, ! r^wrt.r,nrrurvliuf!loautlittdiugs Ih'. Ilutlrv. \Frll, holc larrt, ~luutkl ILt+ pnrm Iw? llntv large lypa nlu.uld lu> tru Ikt, )ra{±e? 1Ch:tl. sk(ndd Vmt .nv nll l hre paw n? plr. 1{ur.o:uv of 'Prxlts I was rontiul; tu tCmt. 1yPtr Ilung in junt na srcnnd, antl I w:ndtn Inu't;t nlun'. ISi tyl~+ or lillln 1)~pt, ilt lc(rtdd lie olwaprr lu In'iql.lt ,[t'u~d. bi~.r sign 16a1t IIt lrnukl In Iu luty 1F1111,tN111 fur n ntarkulunnlyst to I;u uuLmnd l~k @0tl r1n(~~l.itrue. I)ucl.ul} I lrtll aon(n bn(k lo Ihalf n liltln hil. kdct. I tcu.ut In Lurt.y olung knro un Ikiv ulk(r tking. '1'6rrn is .vt umrh lo ru itdu. n nr.tal ( ur~l iuu. l)nl - Ihr. 1rrt;1', ItInue u~k 1~t-ll IIIIH IIILnIIt IIIIH:N 11 R 1 sid(+ul' Iltlti:~l~ I;,I1,111N11ha1. yuu ntd iripalc rtIlin;; for IhtsMni uf Ihiug, how mnr.h wuru wonry is ~pruf: Ly rniu I)tp:uI mrnt. in 16is, vignrrlto silual iun ? Ih. 7'rauer. Vnr Ilw y(:u af t!)PG, I lir rwrvnl IiM:tl yrnr, leo (~sliurdn I,h;t.l wo tn~t~. :;It(udinf,r iu I.Itr li0d ( of rrs(surk, c(Iutnliun, and uthrr url.ivil.ieti,srnu('Ihint;tnt.Iteviriuitynf$8!6millian. Nr. Rwuettyaf'It~sus $111/,2tuillinn? I )r.'I'r.mn'. Yos , cir. Mr. I{anaw nf'I'rx:ts. 'I'lutnk y'ou,5ir. Now, I)nclor, lvilh Irl,:Ird lu ymu (nuunrula in yuur sl:drmrtrlnn 16t+ mttrkinp; of the putkugt, y'an nrc fluuiliar lvith Iko Irill 11.1{. 1.1111, nud if I tmty du so, 1 lutvo Ixru ltd Io Loli(.cc Illul. Ih;lt is 16ee sir.c of 16(e mnrkinf; thnt.could go o:1+--16ut. iv 10-puint Lypc on a. I`L-poiul. Iwdy. I dml't, knnw ~e6n1. I.knl.nteuns. 1'I n('IIAtItM1t \N. I I1011'I lmlirvr Ita tnu see ilfram Lcrr. \f r. 1{tMtt:ns uf'I'esu5. 1 (.tm rc:ul 1.6a1tI f rnm dnwn lhrm, I lltink. I)r.9lor.ltv. 1~un hnce bcllrt vision Ih:tn I du,il' )on(;w i\Ir. I{rmtats uf''(xnv. Is t6:d ynur ttltdtr51:mJintt as to Ilue . vizr, nl um 1 torrcrl? I)r.'I'taut)'. 9'6ifl, Dfr. Rogers, is a m(Nlculr of tlm ly{m uf ktbrliul; 16:dwuuld lto rrquirod undrr ll.lt. 3014, u5 kasLwm us urk(,d up Ly Ikr, Fntxl. /11111 I)III(! AtIttI111IF11911 1 0 11, BItU\CIIII,! 1116 1111N1I111g (rll the rJl;o nf 1 ho puclut {!o L c.re. 'I'6oUnnucntnN. '1'his is wLttt? 9'he rrporlor ciui 6 pu6 t6e pitturo of .eltnla you hncn "Ihiv" in t6o rocord. I)r.'I'i:unr \1'rll le(, lL:tcr` nm drwonslraliun Lrrnun thtro pnrkatg(a nf ni{,mrvmUrw lcilh dm ktbe-liu{; )e6ieh roufnrntv tu Iho.pr(iliv.:Jinnv in 1f.1{..a01~1,nn41 ll~unkl lilccl,uprrsrnt.Ilmc(.rk~tnonslr:dioustnyau fnr Ynmr iufurnud.ion. 'PhnCuAtttMnN. Lcl.il.lxrrcreivrdttsa» ex6ibif. ('Ikn ilruts, rnf(rrrd lu wrre uun'ked us nu rshiLit, tutd will b( funnd iu Ihe (ilrs nf Ihe. cutnmittee..) (fr. litrmntµ of 1'(xns. Now, Ili:d. Avnrning rot'(ra lkr rutirr Ir:turl ntt uw, siila of 16usr ri~aml les, tlnrv il. nul., I)uclor'? w 'Ib:tttav. Not l kt rnl ir(- wntll, Mr. l{ngtra, nv ).nn rnn Mt. \lr I'~~crrv.r,f9're:l'. A ,n'l, :hnlialltu:i.

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122 ('I/t.1III;T'1'1: LAIIKIA2;1I ANI/ AnCKItI'ISINI;---11167, 'I'Iln Cn.ultnolx. 1 uish In oumplimrnt yon )n yom sl.nlrnlcnl. 1'ne rerla.inly lt,ll~e wado Vet.y c.lenr and /,zfdir.ill jusI. n~Lul, yoa propu=n uutl 6o)c yon and yonr ;rs.vm,ialrs in Illo 1'nb1ie Ileall-h tinrvire Iri~l abunl. t6is proLknl. In lil)r of Ihis I nun cvuullcriul; ,c6.y don'I. 1-on rrronmtend 16:11, t.he lunnufu(Lure aud dislribnl.iuu uf crl;nrrlles Iu. lrrulliltilcd 2 Ih. Tlclutr. Iwoulll hcsit:de to gn Illnl. far in a ml+numoudalinn. I6oCunnlnlaN. AVhy? Ifitic:tsbfldusyonhnVedl;wr.rlhcllil. 111.'1'tantr Raatuso I don't I hinlc itd vrould 6e generally ncr.n)iled Ly lim public, Mr. Chairnl:ut. I IlLinlc 16at ot~er nv puri,xl of tone, lic infurming lutd ealul:tl.ing t.6e pu6lir, Ice cuu nremwplislt a grent d/ml in Llln l.rtdlliounl Amerle:ut fnshion of voluula.ry Itr,l.iou on t.hn p:n-1 of uor puLlic e ('nAUIMAnr, T6at, is n lundnble apl)eo:lclr lo tLia prn6lew. I unlsl. say t.lmt I ann nob :tu iovellrnle snlolcer. I vlnoko vnl.y t71rr11. ;IS n, m:dter of f:lr.t. I (to not.irr, a lol. nf pe.,ple w6o:uo invcler)dl. snlolcots. [ notice Ihore mv plu,plo Idho occasionally edtt. I/x) murh. '1'Lry put, on "~eigLt and ILoy :ure in n bnd ph)'simtl sltn )e. I?ither lltmr Inspirttory systent or sonnn olher n,fmct. of their bor~y mnlfnm- tio)is sn 11nd tllcir Iealllt becoules rndanl;ered. I. mysaJf ll:lt~n Lron 6ot.llorcil trillt mLnlC is rallril eJtoleslerol. I harr Irrce told by t.6n dlx:tocs Illnl. I llnll in huld it, down. I Hrot u Ixwk Iht ul-Ixer day, I 16ink it, %rns by I)r. 1Philr--.)'om may know nboutil - :utd I Ila.co really bcnn readinl; Ihnt dhapler nn rhol/htntol 1tt is :nuaziukr to uln lo rrad nboutII O m edi/,dLedi/,d o)inious nnd how high the uLolrslerol ia in pcrsous livin~ in tliu Ilnilau~.4tetlesascumpatrdwilh u16rr couwdric,; m Llle world. 1 nm quite lamfnsed about LLo dill'rr- /vlros of ntcAlilal seiaul.ific ndvice in Lhis pnrl.ir.tdlu fce.ld. I Lave Jusl about, romo tn Lho conclnsinn Ihttt if swnking cig.nvllrvs is as b;ul un You 6a.ve vladed Imro Inilay, I Ihinlc we oo(,rht lo tlo ttt lot Inoro Ihnn i; In,iut; liruposnl wil,h edereuau In snlokiur. 1S'illl 16:dIr.lt nlo ask you this: Is il. IJro mt/nlion of your I)eluul- mr.ul, thn PuLliu Ile:(IIJt Setvice, lu try to infornt nnd isluc}tto tlle peoplo oP LIw counlay to virtmrll,y slop ciglurelle swoking? lh. Trlnt.', I. ILink this is lane. '1'Iw (hlAnenrnN. I t.honght tLnt, was what yat wcre goltiug at. hc view of that, un )l~ 3 of n yunr slnt/mont: rvilI yotc givc us u lilIlr mnro delnil of Ille pu~)lie infuruntl.ion progrxm Ihat you refea lo? TJr.'1'r.latr. Yes,sir;llhtChaitmnn. \Ve 6nve becn carrying out n)mblir, infornrat.imi nnmpaign thrnnt!h :t lrro);rmu xclivil.y in onr 1)ivislon nr Chtnnic llisrasns reLore rre pru- pose to Pslablish otn clenringlmuse fnr iufornmtiou on amoking and hcaltlt. 19tis has been l:ugely tLrongh mork with tile National Inlrr- aRrncy Council, and n-illl r:uinnn o/he,r seicnl.iliee and nduan.t.inmtl or- gnuirutlnna. 11"e Laree n.ltlmlrtcd iu this 1cny, Rf.r. Chxirnutn, wilL tht fands:md resnnrres ncnil:tblo, to preseut to tlw nlblic, and in instnnrrx lo 'I)n;i lin l.ronps sm9t ns 1Le ,ymd It grnal), Llhn lacls as LLcy exiM, lodns conrernin}; I he L:rznrds of sluoking In hhall It. ln mldilion lo this, Alr. ('llnirwuu, Il:rnny;l) uiu vnrions calrl;or- ir:rl lu'ngrams, snrll ns ILn Nldiun:)I ('u.ncer Inslif.nt.n :nul ILo N:dionul llrirt. luslilulr, tst+havn lrln'lud tt'illl n:,vuoinJrd vuhnllect ~tnd rrLltrd ur~nniznl inna utdsidn nf ILe (iocrrnnunl in nllolnldin~ lo /IissrwiwJr Ilir iuforw:itiuu n~ ".idrk nn1l :Iw :.nrnpl,lel)' av wr rnn. '1'Lis is wi Cni1nt:r'I'li LAItI:LIN(1 ANI) AI1C1!IITISIN6- 111fL Ila I f you lconld likr uworn deluils, I, of cvul'sr, rrould Ile l.lad lo sn6wit I hem l u you. 'Ihc Cu.lut+l A h'I'h;ulk ynn cel.y umrh Nocr,1'ouwlyyunlntvr:~l~I~11,1101) _- - llr. I'cmrr. 11'/ du nol. haVe tlnll---- 'I'hc ('.n:ultmAN (raul iwliu,:). I n yuur bud~rl. f)r.'I'raucr. 1'cs,sir; Ihe I!)GII 6udgrl. I wifatt.rrminJ yuu tlml )nst yrnr we a.kecl fur a sttppllrolrldal :y/ )rnprinl.tou for t6nt amoant for thnl. Inn~l)ose lo Ix' v'uilnLle in 1!)lifi, ~nlt nrrlion on Ihis cvns drfrrrell by Ilm AI)lu~opri:dions l!ominiltcc, nml rnusalnlnlly cvc do uul. hacn Ihulr acl.iott ur Iltot'e funds :r.v:til:rLll for Ihn rm.rnol0 ylnr. II iv in Ihr ndmioixl rall iods Imd;lrl for 1966. '1Ilel'nnutnlAre. R'hntisllutlloheusvlfor? 1)r.'1'tsun'I'llis is Iu lie usrd I:u'g,ly. \1r (1h:rirmun, frn Ihr rullerl- inR of infornud.ion as it conlinnes lo arrumulutr an t.hr- su6jr/t of slnokiot* nnd 61:Illli, for Iln, dieSrminnlion of this informul.iun, nn,l for tllo conl iuonl.ion of our sludirs in Ihu lirld of smukinf! :urd heslt6, particulurly ns relnlyd Iu I ha 6rL:nioral nsprcl s of snlolcinR ntd LealtL. 'I'Ilose nr. Iho l;eneral arras in cclti/11 rce erplr.t. lo use Ihese fnuds. '1'Iln ('rl,tcttnl.)N. Ilotc urul)' pruldr rlu yoq hnrc workiuR im 16is Inadlrr tli.l.6c 1rrl:wul./iutr.'d Ih.'I'.:Inn. AI. 16e prl,rnl. luur, M r. Chxirnnnl, 1H fnll linlr lwwi- IinusLarn bl1n utisignlvl to sulnkimt lard hralth nclicilirs, uwl tln rsli~ Inale/I li In R profossinnnl sln/l' prrsnnmI Ilace Ncorkell in Illis nrcn Imrl. liwo. 'I'6n ("nAUtnlnN. llo)r many IIo you prol)osle lo lntt on mith Ihn $l,'.)GII,(NI(I? 1)r. 'I'erurr. '1'6ere will bre npprusitonlely 26 persous .eorl:iun in thisnrru. 'I'hn('uAutal.lN. ;11ule'torinxddilionln? 1)r.'Ib:mv. 1 n adilil ion lo, I snu surry, sir. 'I'Itr, ( InAI ItnlAn. I Slyduo'd I)r.'I'I=.wor. ln uJdilion In. '1'Itx (;nnucnlnrv. In o11Ler lcords, you havc uocc Ifl or <'n, :md yon prnpose tu pul, nu npproximulely SG mure? 1 h.'1'F:ICer. 'I'htd is rit!ht, sir. TIIeUunucntArv. Willth/ybedol.lols? lh.'Prtnn'. Solne will Le pLysirinuti, some reill be olLrr tylxs of proGssiolutl pncsons, and snnm rrill bc r.lerical prrslnls «~orlcing on stu- l isl iral Ir wl reln.l.eil in formnl.ion. '1'ho /'nAUentAN. You ovidentiy nrc 1!ninl! 14) pa,y Ihem a I/rrl I ygnud PoIInI'y R I)I', I'F:IWSC I don't, menn lo imfdy that, t6e $1,950,000 would Let nsed nnliroly for salaries, Alt. (9lnirlnlut. .1 verx lurf!n prrrlnlnr.n uf Ilult, .cnldd lae nsed for malorials, for condnrlmg 16e sttlllles, in mlle.rl.in nllditional iufolm:dion, nnd many nlLer supporlinp±asl)erls. ('nrlainly, nnly n swnll frnrl.ion of it, would Ixe used for salaries. I'ho (ar:ammAN. No)v, )'oa rl5r nlso, on Puge ifn udvlpl:rir x:i in anIverl inelnruls;. 11'hnl, in yon.r ol,iuion, tcinild rnnslilate:ul ndcqnnlr Ivalnin;,? 1)r 'I'raun~. AIr. ('6airmnn, as I indirnlyd in tny sI:drnnnl. I G11. Ihnl. (6is sLotdd br Infl ul) tu rr~'nlululy mtion. I Illiolc in 11rws or Ilio pr,sibility of 0Lanning, silunt ions milll rr;r:nds tn Ihe relnl i1r ile-

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1(/11 CIl1A1116't'rFl LAIIIIhINII ANI) AnA'I:ItTt9IN(:-lee5 hnvo givml Ihis n lot of study fraul Ihe, sLnndpoiut of dlto produo- liun ns woll ns otLer phnses of ity atud I Lovo heard of 16e g,rent ro- senrrh IaLul;tlorioa proposed, a.nd so forlll. JV6n1, woukl lie yum reiwtion to I.Ilal. kiud uf 1m :y)prone'.k'? 1Vo1d11 yougolh:d fnrornoB$ 111r. KI,nNa:oAr. AIr. Chnirulan, IConld not ut;rcn to Ihat, for Lhase rwlsons. As thu dlxanr hns poinlc.d out., ;t.s hns beon pninletl rnd during tho courso of Lht.w hcariut!s, tllore is a Rreut deal of cad.rovnrxy 1 don't. Icnow the 1)erccntagcsa l ]. dou't knnm how many pooplo ordoc,tms, ualified scienl.lsts say t.llnt it does c:ulso rnnccr or how many that it nefi llllt cn115e ClWlqft'. '1'he CunucuAN. I. mm not. talking abald, t.halt now. 1. lun talking nhout. woldd you ngreo 1.6at thm'o is n lmallh hnanrd? Mr. l:onnrunv. No, sir, no moro dLn.n Il:nre is a Lenll.h hnr.nrd iu t he intolcrnnt, uso of most anyth i ng else. Now, here is a point I hnven't rnised during tl)o hearin gs. 11 wns raised Iast Lime. 1)o you say to snnke one cigarette is a honlt.h hnanrd, one pnck, m how nnln y? You get int.o a question of the quantit.y. You get into a qucstion of Ihe indiviclunl. Now, if we are going to staut Inlx+ling :JI of Iho conlnmdities in America, wiy kind ef evidence yun cnn collecl, if it, is overutirod it, is a henllL hazard, cr.riniuly I colddn't ask 1ha1t tobacco or cigrmYlttes be esempl. liul I Lhiuk once vro start this business nf labcling things b:s.:ausu somelmdy or sunlo large :unl snbslnnl.ial 1;ronp says it, is cln.n- Rarnls, then we:ue sclLing n Ilrel.l,y chtnRm'uus prenc:Icut. Thero is oue ol.hrr rcuson, too, Mr. ('hairwnn- I am ns inle,resled ns n.nybody in tho 6mt11.11 of lhis N:ttion. I:uu as inlcresled ns;ulybody in It.ying lo Gnd whr,tlter nr not there is somclLin;,r iu nign'ollesmokinl; IhntI istlclriwcolatl lolLr:dlll,nnd 1 nln fenrl'nllhnlif lrr,put.1llc.sl.etup of honlth un I.hn 1.il;a.rol.lo o.n.l nv'ol;yLud,y ~n_Sv LhnJ1 is :v6n.t ennws lnnt; cnncnr, n'Lal, happens to tho rr.scaralt plugl':un'? Aud suppow) it. is uol, tenlly whnt c.nusos lun;; cmlrnr and we arn lnt.l.inpq the Criminnl );c.l, away whilc, wn ure loclcwg-up somohn:ly l6:rt. nl, best is only slil;hlly guilty Y '19w CnAntnrAN. 1 wouLl luurely likc Lu mt,{1;est. lo t.llo 1;eld.lctuan, knowing (if his iulnnso inlerest. t.hnt 11c Las lutd in t.his flnld for a long time, and tile nble way llo rolncyelds his Stldo and his clisl.rictl and his aunsl.ll.ueucy, I w~oald just Ll:c Lo snggt~5t h) yon nud to your grent indnstry you hnd betU+r sl.nrt, n lot of tltinkillR on I,Lis and comc up with somel.hing thut evorybod,y can live wilh or eltir I snspeet it is gni ng to 6e n lot more eovere tl)an you m iht ezper.t. 11fr. IConNeonr. If the Chnirman will let. me just sny this, I t.hink he knows nte well enough to know Ihat I mn not. nn tlnre:ts/mnblc mml, and I cortnittly wlmt to do what is not. nnly io tthe, Ixl.st interests or Lhe colnli.ry but in IIIO best inlerests of uly cunsl.itnenls, my distriel., nnd my Stnle. I am vvillinl,r tnlislen nud discusn Lhis tlling. 'Che (JunutnrnN- I Iw )o tho }(enl,leumn will pardnn ule. I just thoul,rht, it vcns n good clro.ncu to see. if lve aonldn't nlurow Ihis ron- 1.1'ovel'sy here, hnt I uout't, scr, Illnl, 1 6nvc gol.lon I.ou far wilAl it. Mr. ]ConNEnnr. I t.hiuk the, ('hairm:nl Ilns oe.r(tinl)' helped a I;renldeslllvLh:,tslaAoment 17GAIt6.1"rM: t.Ali61LING AND AUVNnTiBING-IDG5 167 Let rr:e just. nsk lh. Torrti it couple of ol.her qucsl.inns, aud I hnt going l0 6e Iluong6111ft'. Chnlrnl:wl. I)r.'1'tnryt isn 1= lt ree.ol;nir.ed in IIImIIt'al circles 1.1ud, Ihae is scmm beneficial r/lor,l. from smokinlg in LLn ntY+a nf uleu/al I1cx161L4 Dr. 'I'?mn. I rcally tlou't. IGlow Iwlv to answer t.lmt. I Ihink ynu get all est.remo va.rint.lon of anstrers if you ask mnny Inellllml:s (If Il)e profession. Certainly persons wllo have become hntlil.uat.ed to snlok- mg find some dilTieult.les in slopping, 6n1. I don't t.hink that I could trnnlcly say that it hne Innnl.al henlt.h ltoneGts in the broad sense. Mr.IConNFalAV. Letmedirectynuratlentiontothestuumnrytmpnge Afifi of 1.6o reporl, Ilald I tnn sure you lu'o familiar with it, lloelor, R'hlch says: kLvllcnl prralava.lve re9tnrea reengnlllml uf alqnttlrnnt Inncllclnl elrtctn of amoking prhnnrlly In the nren of inentnl hrnlth. Theac benefita originnte tn a psychngeNe w:arch for contennnent nnd are n)enaurnhlc only In tenua of Indivldunl behnvior. 81nce no menna of aunntitnt- Ing thenc hcucllls ia nplmrent the Committee tlnAx no basis for a ludgment which woadd weigh henenta versna hnenrds of amuklnK na tt lnny npply In the general IMnnlntion. In other tcords, Illere m'cn'f( you s:lyinn, not you bnt your (7onnnittee, Illo Conmlillcr. Ih:d htts lunde its rcpurllo ynn Sllyllil[ tllfll. III 1VI'Inlll instanecs cwolcing is bonrli.inl, nnd Ih:tl.lhu t'oum:illco fotnul or Icneaof no )ia;y mhcro Ihey rould qnnutitnlively bul:uwe odT the Lenetits n,ainst. 1hn dctriments of sulokiu{(? ~Dr. 'l'cnay. I slqlpose this is tchnt, tLey :u'o trying to sny. I think itt is vrry di0icldt to be nny ltmro fipco.ittoe th:ut they havc. beon here, nnd this wns Ihe opinion of ILe cummilLtr.. Ptl. 1Cunrvrr.AV. Ln ot.hrr eords, I6o enport does rc.rnpnizo 16n1. in ~crln.in inil:mrrs ri~nrrtlea an 6onrlirinl, 1.6e smnltin(t of rig,nrctlcc i< hrneliri:ll? 11'omldn'1. IIi;Jlue . n fair :tnnl%sis of Illat,vl;tlrlornl und rlmoIn,iun nnil smnmvt~ I)r. 'Ilantl-. I don'I. Iciunv rrvlll~. 11fn}' 1)r Ilmldley ronum~ul. on I1:i5? Itfr. Konnrn.lv. All rigLt sir. 1)r. IInNm.ev. I ILildc mainly, sil1 1.110 Conuuillee's feeling wns Lholt Ihiv is nm hnhit. Ilud. is prnr/.it'c.d so nIdely 6y pcople Ilurt 1lhnro must. hn some henetit, ill il. some place even Ihonp;il Illey ru,n'1. mm~surr1 il, or definn it- I11r. 1CnnNr:oIr. 1:uu sorry, 1/lidn'tI h. You. 1)r. 11orJrn.rr. 'I'hnt ILcre n:ust be sonul l:enelit m sanln phneure or 1hc pe+:ple, wouldn'I. keep on doing it, even though it can'Ilm inenslGrd qnnntitut.ively. Mr. RonNr,oAV. 'I'lLml (lie repnrt. itself does lrconuucnd or revog- nir.n Ihnt there I1J'11 slgIl[tlPllllt L1C11PJllfllll ofTerls. 1'llanlc yon very math. 'I'hxtl is sll, Mr. Cltail'mnn. I1[r. ('+u'rlen. Alr. Chairmn.n? /'o.1NOn1 AN. 1)r. Cnrler. l'tnrr.n. :\ momenlt ot'so ure rvhon yun a.krd un ahr:ol 16c. 1:ILc1- ior, I 1 L inl: 111111 . t.Lc. Imok::hu tn:1 y bo 1:tho1al in surtl a monnrr :IC, "mal. Iioe ilnu:,:rous," :nul :ts fnr Ils I nnl rnocrrnctl I ronlil n~rrc lu r.nmrm su:'lL luht~lin(! nti Illal. :An)~lhiu!~ murn Ihuu Ihnl lenulil ht 4:un:lyin;-r tn f:r.nlnl^.: aLu llnvr rniscd inlm'r': for Inmdrrils :lud lumdredn uf

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112 (11nA1fV:'fTF I.AnRI1.IN(7 ANn ADPP:n'r7fi1NO---1111tG of ifenlth, Lducnt.ion, and Welf:ue lu discoss tho problem of smoltink and heatlt.h. I nut snrr 1 nrrd not remind tbc conunit.lec of tllc prolonged cnn- trovcrs,q mror vlnolcin{; lutd hcalth Ihnt 1Lxs occ.m~rei in 1.6is country. 1'hysirlauv hcgun lonolice Ihe relulinnship of cigarette smokinl; Iwd Inng, c:wcer us early as 1D28. ltt llm cnrly 1D5(1's Llte shockin}q scnpo Imrl mnhnilwlo of Ihe lnoblam tccm rtwca.led by two slnJirs tehirh bu.vo siure. Ixkrn Ibe.ir lllnce ns chtssics in t.ha nledicatl lilerntmrn. I rofor, of ~om:sr, 1o Lhe study by Ilrs. Il:unnlnnd nnd Iluru in I11e l lnil ell ;;lnles and lhc rr.port of l trs. llull nnd I l ill in Ie.n;,rlnld. In I!IYia, Sorl,rcon (Imteral Itnrnr~y- rrmy imnlcdinlo prrrlerrssor - fur Iho 1'ublic I fenh h i~crcirr. in Ihr, "dunrnn.l nf Ihn .1nleri- ,prnl:in, c:ut iUrdirnl ~~xsro:i:diwl,"sairl : 'ITC t,elght of evlnence ;d, present nnplleulrs nurnkOrg nn tlw principal etinle6- lcnl fnctor h: thr Invrrnneil lncklrnee ot Inug eanrcr. lu 101b1, IIl years ufl.ar IlLn 1LtluluondTforn tnport., my ndvisoty runnuil.lcl, rclcmed its re.ltarf.. lhuint; those 10 yenlw, st.ndy nfler study, scicnl iat. a fter scinnt.tst, nnd fuet. :rfter fnctd ncjrled to om Icnotrl- rdt;e nboot 16o hnznrds of sm~tkiuR. itesrarch did nol. slop in ./mnnny 1901 hut has continned nt, nn inr.rrnweil pnce. Itnr.e.nt re.porls hnre fmiher inlplirntrd rignmltnstuoking n n1 w+rionshen.lth hnznrd. 'I'ho rislcs of smoking lntvo been c.lenrly delineatnd and puhlirlr pronnlmred Lime, nnd agnin. YetIbo untlnrc of the problem is sllrjl lhnt cignrello snlrs contmued to incrense from 1954 to 1904. Thel only reul rrvvrsnls in the Irend oec.lrrn4l ill 1954 utt t.he tinlo ef Ilre flam- kinn:Illern Irltorll nnrl in tbe lirst. rplnrler nf 1!IG4, following rele;lw of my ndvir, ny cunrmil.ten's rnport. in s tite nf n level ur lrnhlir. atvkrenrss nnd cnnrcrn, ifL bus proven ci/ftanlt, fnr people tn slnll smokin{r,. 11, hns ptoren di/lirldt. is a daugornus fl-Isn lo ennvinreo young pcople t.lmt. I.bn snutkin~ hn.bitI onotoncqnirr.. Ciga.retles nnd nshtanys have, l>ea.urno sneh colnmonplnce neaooler- meulw of life Lhntt ciCnrette slnokinq, for umnY, hns be.cnnle n deeply rnotod hnbit, nnd fur others, younpstnrv, n hnbltt to be desired. Atnch was learned itt those 10 years from 1954 to 19114 but hundreds of Ihmisnnds of lives trere ncedle.ssly lost. 'hhe prohle.lll is P.lent 111nr'. °(",ignrclte slnoking is a henlt.h hnz:ud or snlTicienl. ilnporlatnce "' to w:urnnt nltlnroprint.o rnmedinl a.nliun." I rplote Lhis from iny nd- visary cummtLlee's report. Wc r';tn wnit no longer. It is ilnper:divn t.hnt. nll apprnprinte steps be tnken to snfngnnrd the Amc.rican publir ftonl Lhe hnzu rds of cignrette smnlcinfi. \Vhat can be dono4 Whnt will enrnnrnl*c smokers t.o st.op nnd non- smokers not, to stnrt.P Pnblia informntion nnd edtlcntion are sorely one Inlstrer. In 1954 and npin in e:rt'ly 1964 tlle evidence. sngf!esl:s Ihnl millious of people Iried to chnul,ro I.hcir smoking hnbils. 'I'hnt th,,c fonnd this dilfic.nlt, l;oes tvithool. sayin>;, btrt Inillions Iried, and Imuty suce.errlyd. 1Vo lmve born nnd :tre continuin/; to infnrnt Lhe pnblic abnull the hnzanls of cirru.rrtte smokint!. We nro cmrently asking for $I'15 million fnr (.he lisonl ven.r Itllifi to develop a rnonl e.IG.aive 'xorrulo. ''bis is n. nrt of onr approprint.inn bill tvhich is he;fore Lbn flongrc~s. ISoII nlorn eredv In bo rlone to inform Ilir pnblic ndeqaatcly- Arleqe:de o-rnin- , "m ri,:n'iIlr rri,l in ~i~mrrllr o~lr'~rll4rnunla, in ('.IL;Altb~t'ro-1 t,Anlsl.lNf; ,ANn AuyRIrrWINa--1oca 113 anr opiniun, F:hnnld sitinilirn.ntly nid Ihes~ offolIS by dircdly rclntiug Ihe trnruinR lu 1 hc Itrudoel.:utd Ilws nsisl iuo t.ho consomrr io malciug tm iuformed v.hoire.. 'I'horc is r,videucn- <tnd~ inl:eod lu presnnl-delnils i:f/;lhr~,c!Icp,lutiuchwn uitll~,rsroulllm;~lrrinlly4iucrcilso~nblira.ti1u~rr,- ness of I Ito henlth hnzafd s.ml provi/lo rnotinwng evidatru of Q;ovorn- » Ie.nlnl eance.rn. fn nddil.ion, 1116 tv:urniegs wonld provrnt Lbe con- snklcr froln In:iug Icd, hotvever,5nbl ly, to Lhe belief thnt tho prothlct is safe. Severnl bills eourerning Lhe Inbelim,r :lud ndver(.isinQg of ril;lwrttes nre e.nurrul ly beIure1 lhis cnwmilaer. II.It. 300, ILIt. -1tN17, and 11.11.. 7051 wuuld Im/lnire Ihnl. ILe stnte- lnenl.: Ontttlou t Clgnrettn Smoking Mny lie Ilnznntnun to Yeur iJCnlll. lln h(lllted 1111 011e of (.he slde hllllels of n cignrette tnckngo io no I(ss Ilmn lo poiut type. If.R. 4244 uses Ihc words "\~nrninx--Cunt:.nls ilfny ]in Ihmgerons Ie lfeall.h" Imd tvutdd nlso require ILal. the Ilu ant~ ni.'odine rnnlent of tho c.il+nrellrs bem prinled nn t,he Imcllnke. II-I:. ao11, Il.li. 9/11t7, nmTll.ll. 7okl tcolJrl torbirl :my Iccdcral u,m.nr,y ur Slate or locnl ruvorumrutt frotn rtvptirinf,r nny ol.bvl tt;u'ning sl;l lemr.nt nn packngos or in ndvcrl.isiup;. I f.R. t3n1-I, I Llt. d0t17, nnd ILR.7oa1 would le,nve enforrrulen(.of thn bill t o 1 ln+.l nsl.icc ]h-parl incut .vhile 11.11. 4244 would give the Federal 'I'rnde, ('onnoissinn ndtninisttnt.ivo responsibility for reguln(ion nn rit.',nreltn Inbeling. 'I'hchnsic.objecli.rooflh/sebills -fnirtcarnin~ofhe.nltltriskslnlhn pru5pal.it'n ri~n.mum of ri~:n'c1Acs -is stronRly supportrd by oor l)e- I:a.rl.eicad. 1Yn hnvo :;rrrrnl rcctiumlrudnl.inns conre.rninti I.he, lnoti:ions of Ihr.4o Irills. 9'hc plnccnionl. and sizn nQ f.hu w;trntng Illess:tge tu'o of renl cunrern to nn. 'Io the extent, IhldLlte warning goes aonot.iced, it, is uscless. I l.1t:11114 ILIt.. 41107, n.ml Jf.lt. 70fi1 wotdd 4tlac.n I lie tca.rn- ings. » t one of tho sic~n lnmcls in rnl her small type. \\ :uuin;,~ in t.his hMntion and of this siu+ wquld hnrdly invit.o the consnmet's nttenl.ion. ILR. 4244 docs not, stnto tho type slzo :md loctt.inn for the trantinA label btrf, tvould reqnire that the warlliug be- prlntnd ml Itkel outMde In rlenr, IrRilde nud Plnlnly viai6lo prtul. We treefel tho reluirement, of 1,110 Ier,lmrnl Ilnznrdons Snbstn.nces Imbeling Act, tshnt n. anming sLatAnnent be L..atod- prwnh:ently * ' In concptcnonx nud cligilrle tyDe In routrnRt liv lynogrnph7, Inyuut, orculorwlth other printed Ill on tAe Inhel. I1, is imltorlnnt that I.his reqnirnment is such Lhnt Ihe :n-resgo consmnrr muidd be liholy Lo mnd the lubol. Wil.h ro,(lir4 to the n-hnle r netilinn of wording, loonlion, ould risi- bilil;t', tve ferl il. ttanld lre Ilrcrernbin tn lenre formalnliou of Ihe spe: aitic rrqoirrlnr.nls lo admiulsttnl.ire rv~_nln.l ion. '1'his Ilesibilil S' truold nllmv for rhnnRrs in Iltee phrnsinl; of Lbn warning tchic.b milail( rcvnlti frrnn rrsrarrh nr tec.bnicnl imprut-onlenlc soeh as Ibe (leve,lupmont of it le's hnrnrhnuv rip{arellc. In lirnn Il:rso devulopnle.nls might.lasl-ify a rrdnrrd tnnviu;; or prrhnps even ils rnuis.cion. In nnler to insurn Lho nlnciruuut c11'rrtiteness of the tcarnin!r Iabnl il~rlf, ilt is iml,nrlnnl tlml ulher:;lalrlurnl~ nn Ihc I,::rlut.rr, m in :dhrr

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1152 I'1/::\Itb:'1"I'b: LAIIP:LINI! :1\I/ :\n\lat'1'LtiIN(7---191i5 1)r. llcntv. 'Phi, iti iurhulell ill Ille. rrpnri Illntt yoo have nppemlrll lu I)r.'Prrrr'n Irstiluouy. 'I'he.re. \rrre;<own tlill'rrrnt.rs. Iu tiolne ra=r; ILo dill'rrrorev }t~rra Irit'ial. In tinmr ra.rn 16qy wcre n, 1111101 ns r. r,r 1; lrrrrrutnUr. I-uinls. In no rosu \e~nlId il wnl<o a Wv'ioua vsrinliou ill Ihe in(orpnI:Iliou uf a'Ilnl Ihr( t.rnor.tl lovel of pnLlic opinion is :ILoul. Ille isaue on Illev nlnltrr of on+;n,Ilc la6elinn, Ilnd, is ileln 19; Ihn pe.rrrldalgc rcprr.~Sin{{ Ihem-lIves lbr Iull ill ell'oct uns Gl p(rrrot iu uue eavr, (YI Irerrenl, ill annlIler, 60 prrceot in Illo Ihird, aml If3locrcenl. ill Ihl: I'rrurttl. AII'. licucrvr:a.tr. I)r.'I'rreY ftnrc an I1n: rocnllv nf riir6li of 16e (Inr, - I iuuv rlnriu~ I llc ruurnl~ uf Ilis sl xl llocul. 1)r ILOnu. 1'1ti,air. 111r. Ko11N1:oe\-. I lalcr it you havo Illr :nl:-;,:rrs thorr Io Iho rral of Ihrlll \rilh.you, islhatril;ht? I)t'.Ilmlrv. Yrs,sir;I6eL'7iqarnlioua:nr.ullinchldcdiul-6oltptrrudiz licre. \Ir.KosnlcrAS. WLat? I)r. Ilnltn. '1'he 2: quevlions oo rrnlelllal nclinu ::ro all iorlndld ill Ill/, nplrencliv, sir. l\Ir. I:unNrcl.\A. 1 nu1 uol lulkino;Ihnol Ilnll. 1 aol Inll:iuI, nLunt Illo[',Ifl, Ur.llorn. I)r. I lul<x. 011, no, 16c,y t,ro nnlt iur}ndrd. M(kvt of 111ew have uo11t- iu;; lodu ,ci16 tllee in.ne. mlde.r divrussiun. Mr. KIntNl<r.ni-. A1'lutt? 1)r. Ilunnt. Mutit of thcul nro not porliuenla to Lho isslm uudet' dis I'll'sll/ll. nlr. Knlcseu.tY_ WII,Y dicl y'ou not iuvlntle i( ? 1)r. IIcmN. I do nnt. Imce IlLrm nll vcorkell onl: 1~'e nre, jnst rhetling Illis data all' t6c ruloputerv. In rnlh rnsa Ilnsn fol'Ins hnte lo br. CrnllllnrPll. Alr. 1GIlrner.,vr. I)id yuu say Illatt mony oC Ihnm vicet'e not rrlnlivn tu ILe.innur? 1)r. 1lunrr. Yrs, sir. Whnt I v:lid icns 1.6esn °360 questions nll iuavc n rrnsou for hriu;; in Iheslu(ly. 61t-. KolwtuAv~. l'ou Iinve. an nnsv:cr lo 111090 qnestions. I mrnu rou 1 nlnllnlc I Ile. resulfs, dn yon nol ? Dr. I lults. Yrs, sir; xcc Lavc uppruxilnNol) 16,0(10 stnlislirnl Ln61e~ 1.6t1l. 6nrn tnhlo oll' Ihu roolputc'.rs rrlrrrseoLioR /wswms to IItesre qun51 inui-;. Alr. KrntNla: tv. I loyoa huceI hrw vvilll ylal'! I)r. I Ion,\ . I alul vorry, sir, I anunut rtu'ry Ihrw. Tltey mnst vvcil;h nl Ir_tat, ttuu Ilnnuds. Mr. Kolwr.r...r. I anl ook Inllcin-_1 n6unt. IL:d_ Wllen yon f,mlt tlln nnvicel} yoo lalu,c w~6at the Ilorrcutnlr(r is. All ylnl hn.re )!ol', /o do iy tal:ee one uf * ~ cnu' (pltsliounoirrs wld fill in tlle uostrnr, do you nut? I)r.ILntN.'I'hi~InlsonlbrvnclnucSr(.sir. ~ Alr. Konner,.\\. Il.lws uul. LwPn dnm'.< I)1'. I lonN. No, sir. 'I'hl'y hnlr. bhru rrrmiog oll' ou gruulrs fruul Ihr r.lnnliuler. 'I'6w \aroall ill lny nllior nl I Iu Ilrc-ttul l imr. I\Ir.ICuunr:uXr. \\'hau\rillil.l/rduor,I)oc/or? I)r. IIunN. For Ihe ovrrall lirntrx 1:Inl .nn 16ntt Llnlt, will he dunr 1ril hin t hn olxt mnul h or vo. Mr KI:nru.tr. 1\'ill it lul<rlon t6;ll.lun;c! Ilr II,i.. I ini~..{iii l9(iAItD71"r1: L.AIII?LIN(7 ANn AIIYBli'I'IAIN(;---I96b 15.1 AIr. ficncNen tv. 1'0o did nnl.lhrn lnlcn/.lu uns,cer.Io l.hrsclllpsIinnv into ruor~illrr:d iclu in:lrricinri nt \~rur rrsalts'd I)r.Ilunv. I aulncrrr.y, I iTlnnl {Pd.ILe.iwlrliclltiouorer.~n Ich:ll.lln, yuavl lon is. AIr. 1(ouNru..v. Lot, nu, -1o :dt il. Ihi. \c;p'. l'au 6ntl pickal out eorlnin Iplesfinu5 Ilmt \cern t,onta.ined ill tlto tptoslionnniro IlJrnln(ed Illo resldls of Lhose, n11d ure Ihry t6c uncs Ihut Dr.'Pnt'ry );avn tls ill Lis sl:drnleulY I)r. 11oun. We tn6ld:dcal I llr ~rc'1 inn I llat. refcrre(I to relocdinl 1n+1 iou, Ilud, iv Lhr Inlhlil°s view of tl unm6rr nf Illiut;a whirh Ilad Ltro rn~~ posed Ily I:Irinm iudicidlml~ anll ill c:lriuov Idnrrs. inr.luding Ilrr.l~o~rr uf t'aorrrsv, ns llo+»il/lo \cn\'., ul' clrnliu ,cil Ir Ihn IrrubItm uf anul<in;t, ue crvnll Illo :(rrelduurr, nf Illis as n I/ruLlrm, und I1Lis /rronIr of '.?:I qucsl.iouw ,rus a"ked ns onek seqnrnrl, nnd srrulwl ill be onn I klnl, Icns pn.rt.ic.ularly prrtinont t.o Ihis issoe. 114r. Kuntvhuar. AYllv did yno n11J ~o lolup' olher qnrsl.ions if they n'tra not Ilv.rl inrul. to 1lli~ Issue? Ur. Ilnl:N. Iirrnu~r Ih/+ nlliloclr:: nf Ihe publin nn rpmndilil :lol.ion tcns uoly a\rr\~wall li:n6 ol' Ihr plmine=o. oC Illis surrl.\'. '1'hit ~nrerry hndll."rr:ltmnu\=Ilill'rrcyd.lrlu'pushud llncol'IlnIrllrI:oMr~ MI:~ICmcur.o:\r. 1~ou mcnn Irurpo:rq olllor I.h;tn Illn puLlir, opiniuu ou vmokiul!, the luln~liu;; nf rir;nrllr,v, Ihr I:JK,Iiuf! nf tulrrrl ixiuIg,:1nd Im\v lunl; l/rnlde llnd slnoked. I)r. I lor.v. l)ll, yrs, sir. nL'. Kunsl<a.n'. :11141 wIcrl6rr 1ho;e lunl achr Iwd rrlnrrr nnd ;111 11n11 urPt (lf 1-11111t(. 1)r. IloltN, . hor vxluuplo, one oC Ihtw iwpnrltnllniws of this slu'vey rras to ch.crlup full i,rslcltmtic lufarwnl.ion on peoplc'.v cslmrirlwe in giving np sulokinh, tvhrt.her nr not 16cy tt'civ' snr,coGtfnl. Oue of 16r 1Iro61tm5 Ihnl. ,rr Inrn ;ulrl ono aC Lhc, prulllculs Illal. tvr:nr rn-gnrrrl In atnclyiu;; i" I.hnlI ul' hoIjlinlr Illnul pruplre tcllo u'isll ill ,ne up ~Inok io_.~ tclro liml Lhlvhrlves nnnhla lo do so. :Amom", I.he thim,s Ihnl, o'o lloped In Ir:n'n Ircnn Ihiz ~Lncly \ve.re \cIInL orre sonlrr of Illc I'nnbrrti Ilud.lnnlcrl fol'Lhc.ur.~rSSful5lolq)in~!ufsuwl:inq. Mr.Ko1tN¢npr. So you.veregomgmtonprol;rltmnotonlyoffrying tn lind ont vcLatt peoplo IhougLt mboul. wlmlidlo Yablic I lrelllh Snrvico ongLI. I<I do, Ihn ii"1'(', onght to clo, bolalsn vv6nlI you (-no Iln, is Ihnt right.9 I)r. f Iu1tN. \j'e luen ta'yinl; lu find ontall vve c.nn n6on1 Ille holmvinral asprr.ls of stnnkiug, whieh vcould iuclude 16o topie of giviug ap smoking. A4r. UnmrFn. Wil1 the gent.lemmt yiold for a quesl.ion4 Mr. I(oum:onY. Yes, sl r. Mr. Cnnrl:rz W Lnt wns tlhe t.ot.nl cost of t.his p(1114 Ilr. Ilollx. I\roldtl sny tlntl, the tolnt cost.t inclnding wllnt. wns spent lalstt yrn.r :uld I'his yrar, is ill tllo neiuh6orllmocl of $120,q(10_ Mr.U,vrrlcn. You inlet'vicuved4,7U1)pcople,t'igLt? 1)1'. 1Io1rN. Yes, slr. I11r.1'.Urrrat. And r,'llntu'asthe.cns;l.:for/nrllonr.of Ihocr inlrrvimcs, t nking onc poll? 1)r. Ilnnrv. Sir, Lho cctstt is boilt up of u. ~11rorvt mlaty dille.rvnll par1s. Thore is (hr tost uf dovrloping nnd printing tl'm inlervimv, prrtesl iu{; r- s5-1 . r:11 -_--lt

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11-1 CICAItIsI'TD] 1A6EIdN1i ANIt ADVN;It'rISINC-1065 Inbolinl;, nr in ntlverlisiug do uol. in any tra.y w+rvo to neRnle sarh n I1aruiutC, hulcrrer salbl.ly. IVc would 111111, . sprcific ntdltority he imludrrl to pruhibit. nW+ of slnlemeals 111311 . eilhtvnngnte Ihe. w:nn. inl; or, uhilo nolt clearly tloing so ned nl. Icnst. noldentonstrnbly false, uut;hl( give I.he consnnler Ihe Inislendinh iluptrssinu Lhat ngivcn riqnaellei is less Imxtn'dons tha.o it ncl.nnlly is or lesg of n risk thntt nl hers. 1Ve ara nlvo cnnrrrned ahnld fltr, fnr/-Ihntthtre of Lherl bills (1T.R. a13141 {1.11. 1(1u7, and R.H. 711Ctt), woulrl forbid nny requirement, in- clnihnr any h'I'(' raqniretttrnts, for inrlusion of :I ltenlth nler,sngee in sdvnrliriu;; fur ri;;arcllcti Ihnt nrr I;IhrIt,I :14 rrqnirrrl hy Ihr hill::. \jrhc.Ihrr lln rIYt~1 of oi. Inl)e.l trnruin~ ran hi ndrInntr in it~r11', nud whtJ.heril islikelytnhrnenlrnlizrrlurutrrr~miolwIhee.iTcctofntlvrr- lisino" nrt quc4iuns, Ihal, Ire beliere, raal hrst Itc rrsoked oe Lhe bnsis of act.nal experience. '1'he Fedrrnl 'Prade Colnmission, in ils Irndo regldntion ndo, Ims specifir,tlly inviled iuturrsled p:n-tirs in apply fm' snsponsion, olorli- firnliun, ur:lhroRnlion nf ils rnlu tcilh respnot to ndvcrl.ising of ai~,- nrotles hefure ils ellerlivr. d:llo if rircnmulsurvs hnvu sltlliv.ieullr clmd. 'I'his cmdd iur.lutlc ronvidernlion uf t.he rlTrrt of a lnhrl lvnrnint*. 1j'n tlu nof helieve. thal. IlLe pa6lic hrnlth Would hn w'ell scrved by striking fiorl Ihe lenlds of Ihr, Cnnunission the nnt.horily uvel^Idlmrliaint±lhnt It neserls. l)ue of Il:r hills, 11.11. M19t1, requires u slacenut of Inr and nirotine ronteut on Ihe rig:urotte p:u.kn.go. At onn time tlle nsc of tar nnd nirnliec rnidenl clnilus, based on n vnriety of nleasnreme.nt. melhods, r,wxed niilcsprrntl ronfnsion as to llm pos4iblc llenltltfllluess of one r.ihrnrMte.asol/llostrllnnnnthrr. Iluat'vrr,IllerP1111W 14nsIJtllllnll11Zr11 utnt6nd of weasnrin6r t:tr nnd nivol.iua rinld which can hn dnplianled. Although ue tannot definilely prnvo Ihnh n mdtnction of lar nnd nirn- linc contnnll in clg:u'uttc slunl:e will si}~nifirnntly drrrense t.he hrn)tll hnr.nril. it is nn rrasonnhle nssmnpliom Lhn.l Ihis wonlJ t'esllt. '1'here is t+cidrnrn ILnI syulptrnns nssncinfcd wllh cnrlnin disnnsos nre Itss ronmlun in I ha~n Irho tnsa Iho lower nirvt.ine, lower Iat' e.it;nroll.rs. Nnl it is o.rcrdiu~ly ioiporlnnll t.hnl. Ihc consmmpr tte infornled Iha.t. while sur6 cirarrl Irs inat' Imr, le,vs Lanuvl,on;, Ihtc :uY nnt so fr. 1Hs.n)' nlnok- cr", nv 1 hnvr rafd, 111141 il ditlirnlllu slnp smuhieO" Fhul. Ihe. ~adist.nnl.inl slvile.li lu filter ni'muet.tes iwlicnlrs Ihoy nrre anxinos Lo prolrrl liinir hrn111L Ihl- muuhing nhnlIhwt' btlirvm in ln, n lrs:; hnznrilnns prtnlurl. hor Ihe.n severxl tr;ucnus, lvr frel thn1f a stnlement nn the paeknl;e nf tnr nnd nieutine cnldenl Lused on n slandnrtlized delrr- wirod ion wonld hc.nsefnl. Tlolvover, corrnnt, resenlvh conee.ruing Ihe vn.rinns cnmpnnenls nf ciga rot.te ,nluko mnV call for clvlnt*ns irn I Iw ta.r :uld nir,ol.iue stnt.oJllrnf nr iudirntc ol.hnr rntnpoueals tlnlt s}nndrl lie lisled on IILO einarelle pnclulue. 1i'n wntdtl reeomntmld Ihnl inslead nf n cpenific shttntni:v requiremenlfnr n stnlrnmut ns to parl ictdnr nolnpourots of ci{!nreIlo smoke, rr"nlnlot.l' nllihoril.v Im- prm'iJt.il to tlrridc nhieh pm'licliku' mnlltoututa Ahuultl Ix+ ttisc.lose.d nu Ihu IaLrl. 7'hia flocittilit,y of nnthnrdy sholdd nho rslrurl In thn nnal yt iaal mMhnds 10 ho nsod a.nd Ihr mnmler in whirli Ihn infnruudion ia I'insrnled to tLa consnmer. Anv slnlelllvut n:+ Ln coulrnts ~honht, in unr cio.lr, be haflrtl 1111011 st st.llntl- nrdizrtl ~leterminutinn :inrl ,chmdd hl ulilire4 I~~ prr<,ul lornnin:'fnl tp(LAItP/rTP: LATn+1.IN(: ANn AD4FItTIS1NQ--1005 115 infornntl.ion to Iho consumer. We watdd fnrlher reooumleod Ih:11.lheP regulat.ot;y ngenr,v Ln ntli.horized lo rcquirn t.hn ntnnufnr,turrrs to pru vidn the nl;enny tvit.h continoinR infnrnlnl.ion ns I.o thn inRredieuls, including additives, in cignrrttes. lf.B. 3014, , 11.1C. 4007, nnd TLR.. 71151 define t.he tot~n `bignrelld' as °:uly roll oF tnhacco or ol.hcr snlretnur.e wrapped in pn~tnr or lit noy sull- stnnr.e other t.han tobaeeo, ntid inlended for sutoking. '1'he referonce to "bther sahstanco" tnny lie aimed nt. possible t.oba+xo stAist.itntes, bot thero is a,hnosl, no infortnntion Its to the possible health hnznrds in Illis regnrtl conlp:trnhle lo thee infnrnlnl.ion ahont "cil;n.rcllnw" in Ihe ur-- cnplntl crvlsn of llie tcnrrl. Itilslly, I shnnld lika lu tnnrFt IrritIly on thn qneslinn nf I Ile n,(enry Inmgm~cirs in IchitItthrso fnnc.lionsshonfdlxlvtwtad. 11.isrlr:lr,in vielt' nf wlutl. I hnvo nlrrndy nxid, Ihal il. nould ovorsimplify the unl.llet', in mlr npininur In ntteropt, to epnll onf. the rtxplirmnonts in fhe slatote itself nnd dlspense nttn{;nHlnr wi/h tr~nlnlory ndntinist.rulion. 11'it.h reRnttl to the lalmlin,q of cignrelto pat1knRes, tlte 1)npnrttlWllt. Inla eOl'1- rhldnd, mt hnhutee, thnt, rtspnnsihiltt.y should be vested iu om' 1)r{lnrt- menl, 'Irrferahly I0y wn.y of :lpprnprlnlo :nunodnlenls In Ihn Gederul Ilnzarvlous 5`vlrslnnecs l,nl,rlinq Acl. 'I'his rouchlsinn nns ro:uImd afler cnusitlm'alinn of the ly'ro of ro;idnlory npllronuh rrqninvl nnd Ihn inspoctiou, soizarc, nnd olher enforrcmeut provtsions ivhlrh wntdol then ho a.nlomaticnllv avnilnhle. In ndJitintt, tllo st.ltlr antl tr.lovant expnrionce buill, op in ilm nthninistrntion of tJle Federal Tfazardous 5uhstnncev l,mlroling Act and t.ho older Food, f)rttg, nnd Cosmetic Act. fw'ther cnntmends this nppronch. The regulation of cigwrlte ndver- lising, on Ihn otLer h:uld, should, wo beliese, continne to Ln left ta tho Ferlrl'nI'I'tvtJo Cnntlninninn na I hnte nlrnndy indiented AL'. ('hnirnmlt, Ihe I'ul{lic lienllh Serviee has heen ex tlnrin~r Ihn lirohlrm uf snmking aml health for somo l itne now. We ~tavn beglm [n n. very limllntl wn}', lo intplrmentt i}tn Irenmmewl:tlions of mp .1dvisoly (lolumitlen rtport. 1'rrseut.ly otlr nclivilies nro primarily in Ihe followin~ fonr :u'eas: (1) dissnulinal-iug infortnnt.ion to professional and lay Rroups nn Illo hrallh hnznrtls of cigarol l.e smokmq; (2) dntrrrnining e/lastive vvnys nf helping thnse indiridtmis who tvnnt to sfnp cil;nretlo smokinR I nquit.; (3) nzplnriltg tcehniqnes for iufnrnlim~ ndcqunlrly ynnng pro- pln nnd Ihnir tTnchcrs nbnnt. Iho honll~t llnznrdv of oi;rn,rlle 9tnoking; (4) studying t.he socinl, culttnnl, and psycholol;ical fnctnrs wltich determine smoking hehnvior, beliefs nhout slnokinf;, and nttil.ndnstownrdsmoking. As you may kno.r, tnore thnn Sfi0,0(Itl copies of the report havel)Pen disfrihuted. LI addition, live sermrnte pmm'lhlct9 on vnrions nspects of tho report have be.en [lre.p:u'etl mld dlstrillntetl. Wn nro mu're.ntly sponsoring smokinh withdrnvnl clinins in Calif.orllin and I'ennsy)- vania. Tn Ariannn, we na'e assintinR a prnject, tlnsiRned In evaluldn ohildren's re.nolions to n sa}lonl odncat.ionnl nmoking progrnm. We hnvo sl.ndird tile smokinghehavior of last yrar's me(dirnl schonl grad- nnles and hn.veI fonnd thntI only 21) percent. worn cig:urAta slunkers. We ldml fu li hrr stndios of othnr professional groups.

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I )N t'Ir::u(i41-fP: t.AItIJ,I\t{ :\SIl .v,VrarrltilNH--Inas AIr.Rtuu:a.of'I'osas. Ycti; I rmdtri'l:urd. I'Imt. innll. 'I'lrudt ynu,ltlr. ('6u.irwno. 'I'hn('n otnnlnN. 1Velvill rrl.nswunl.il ° n'r1ur.L. (14/6crenpon, id. 12:15 Ihe ruluulillee rrr:rssnd, lu reronvonr III c! lhr. aauro duy.) AVIT:IINUnN FIIR%ION 'Phc CneutnrnN. '1'he ounlmitlrc \vill cnme to order. Ilr. (`ntlrr, I reaol;nize you ntt tlir- mnmrnl ontil Afr. Knrne;;nv 1'tI111'119. AT r. (',urrt:e. 'I'hunk you, si r. I)r.'I'rrry, you refor in your stnlcwcut.lu Lhee prolnn}{ed conlrovnc,y' ecer sinoltiul; nnd lLenltal. .I1 inta'otlured ild+t IlLn record Ihe olhrr dn\ fhennnlesofmorelhun40physicinus,snirulisls,audotherexpert.s.rho tplestinned Iho concAnsions nf your Advism.y Uotmnittee on Smoking uud Ilralth. I think yen would agree t.hat there is still c.nnl.roversy nniun}{ dorlnrs nnd w~iontists nver thtssuhjrct, is lherc, not 4 STATEMENT OF DR. LUTHER L. TERRY; ACCOMYANIED BY DR. DANIEL HORN, DR. JAMES HUNDLEY, AND THEODORE ELLEN- BOOEN-Resulned 1)r. 'Pxatm-. 'I'Lere is mnin differcnre, of oI>inionl 1)r. C>trter, bld, I Ihinlc wlltrn vou rrvtlir.n Ilie large umaher of physlcin.nc antl I6e facl. Ihnl )uu e:ln livt unly 40 of Ihose, it rrrlniuly dor511ot, ecprC>iellt, any rnu~mm~s. Dfi'. ('.\Irrrat '1'hiw wus Itot junA4 ns pna h:tco Irnntd it. proltk vvorr rminrnl luen fl'om vnrions lrtu'Iv uf Ihin nnuntry nnd frnm (ler- w:my. Cresl. ISriloin, and vvere chosru nol ronnt.inely hut. herau5e ol' I heir nminturr io I heir prtrfr.csinn. l)r.'Prrry, you ,:litl in your sln.tvwrnl. 1 hal, it i, n rra~nnn.6le n;:nuuyr Ilnn IL:It. n. rorlur'linu in Inr n.nd nit'oliutl a.nnlrrnl, in oign.rellt .nrukee will .eimnilir:urllv dtr.reace Ihe htnll.ll h:v.nrrlv. 'fhal, sorln'ised roe, I/e. '1'crry, lher:lase 1 heliece y'ou tnld I.llo Sr.n:elo (;mmncrw CominiUee Iluvv is un proof thut. Ilhi,a is so, aud I mfer ynu In t.he, Iransm'ipl. Ilnge G:1. 1)r. 'I'r:mtv. I do not, think Lhmn is plnof of it, l)r. Carter. Mr. (1.\Irlt:R. Yes, sir. I)r. 9'n:lnn. /7n Ihe olher hand, I Ihink Ihol'e is cerluinly sul;l,msl.ivn inforoml.inn with relmurd to the clTects of snloking lower nieotiue, lower Inr ronlent. c.i4n.rclles which would suhT!rst Ihat this may lu+of quilre somc siT!nificmlm. 11fr. (`nn'1ICn. 1)o you Ilavn figmt,s to show thatt smokinl,g ci{,+sreldes wit.lr n smnller cnntenl. of I:nr aud nicoline is less efecl.ivc in /:RILSIII}( lung r.mce,rP I)r. 1'r.inn. Nu, sir, I do not. Lnvo I.Iris. Ilowever, in re.lntiuu lu certain sylnpt.nms like shorl.ue.sa of hrrnih; r,nngL, and other Ihinr , certain studies hnve indica.ted Ihnt there is a le.mer ineidonen nnd a lesgm inlcnsil.y uf tLese symplome nnoni,r pnrsons smoking lower hu' and nieot.ine content cigarettes. I would not p)'opose to you Lhut this is nn c.vt.nblislwd fnct. I 111ink it, is n. sl rnng suggest.ion, nnd I susl>ecll tllnt it, will obtain when Ihe ftnnl snientific infot'mnlion is in, hn6 a.t. Iha 1.\It6:IJN17 ANII AIIVIllt'1'IKINq---111riK IIIIL (l\trrl.:n. Aru Iheso sl.ndies av:\ilahlel Ih'.'lhutrr. l~c>, sir. I Ihinlc wn cotdtl elultrm theut nvailnhle. n'Ir. l'nle'rl?e. 1'cs, vir. I brlirre. Ihe rrpor6 nf yolu' Advisury Cour tnil tro ~n{'s nn Irn;;e iG Llctl: Nltul.ler In amuvnns nhunrln-d IhruNN mmokinti nud n11Mr nnIhndv oP toWcro uuc VmPnl,ly di untt relnCmut n alenilltnnt hwdl:h DruLleul, IS Ihnt nut rnrret't? . I)r.'I'v:wtv. ln relation to nicotille4 Itlc C:\I1T1111. YP4, Gir. I)r.'1'rmn-. Yes,sir,l,hnt.iswhattherepm'tsn,ys. Atr. (':vrrr:n. 'I'hr repnrL :J,,o nnys on pnl;e 74: 'IWre Is uu nrecPlnlrle evitleuce llml. prolougerl extwsure to Idrvdtue crentee r.nhor dnngtronn fuurtlonnl rhnuut ut nn nbjecllve nnl.ure or tlegrncrnllvC tlisense, is I114LtI c,nl'1'lct ? ilr.'Pnlutv. 'I'Ilntt is correcl, sir. Mr. (lmmn. With regard to tar, you tostilied before t.ho Tobacco Snlwmrunitlre of Ihc llnuse. Commiltee en Agriculture, .Tnnuary 2!1, 1:)(; I : O'u. urtd In I:wnr un.n! nb~nrt IL. nnbvlnnr.n i11 lnlrnCCU xmnl:n tchich prrnlln're hC:rllh harnrJs. 1:o1t1 \\e kruw nrnre ht tni.q urrn we will be luuulirnplnal iu uur rnr1rls lo rnrmnC Ihe hnratrtl. It Iu Jilllcult to dentgn a tnntn.nl nt remorinR c-rmrtbhr{; if }nn tln nrR knu>v,vhut it Ix. In rdLrr wortl, ', cnu ~lo nol. knrr\v \chnt. Ilre.,nhsl.ances are in tobacco =.moLe Ihat pnrJuct~ Utn hrnllh I>ni.nrtls Iln>t you say sluokim cnuses; ii~, Ihnl: nnt cerrecl'd I)r. 'Il~ecr. L Ihinlc \rc hnco .~rmro vet'.1 ~Irong evidencc \villl regard In rrrluin P111'r'lllUl!e111C HIIIICtIrIICt'1: lvhich 111'e in I:tltl tobneco smoke. Alr. 1'trrua;. Ynm' uliH\rrr, lur\crtrr, \coldd clill lm "No." Yon dn nnl. Icnwc 6n1. ILn wtL~a:rnrrv nrn io Itrbnrr.e cmuke Ihttl. lnvelqcc fho hrnll h haza nl, )nu satq ~utnlcin~ ramrs. 1 n'.'I't:mn. I tlo nnl. Ihlulc Ihnl. \cee hnvo nhsohdc pruuf ol Noh:r.t. it. iw, I lr, l ,u'Ir1'. NTr.C.11,rvn. Yes,=ir. 1)oroohaveauynetnnlproof? Ih'. 'I'r~ nlrr. Ytw, tiir. I Ihink Ihe factt that, rortnin of these suh- SLtute.s rvlllrlL :u'ee tlerivrd front t.he lo1>acr.o smoke, which have. heen shnwlL in u.pr.riwr.olnl nnimnlv t.o hn t.nl'r,inol!enic, slrnngly sngRest. LIml.lhty' :tre. I hrI prinripsl ones i I' nut I ln,onrs. Ah'. (''\It'1't:r,. '1'hrn I take il Ihsl. 1un nvo hy InLnron ~Inolrr prn- (Inrtrd Iwlgr:ulccr iut,xpc.rimmntal :mmn:r.lc. 11r.'1'elutr. I /hinkwuwent. iutothisheforolunch,sir. Nfr. C-\trl'1at. 1Vell, do yon slal.e tllnt you have n.t,rtmis wLiclt havo caowd cnncer, nnd I ntn justtleking--- I)c'. '1'rautl. 1 did not, sn.y lmtg ctutcer. 1 wns retcrring--1 >*\ irl uut- rer f'rnm ra roinnge.nic subslxncus. 111r. Mlerl^s. (hu'c:uhjrcl.ho.roislnnRetutrnr,Ihalievo. I)r. 'I'rnnn'. We are tniking ubnnt vmnkinC und henlfdc bnvudly, I)r. ('a.rle.t'. l\ir. ('.AII'rrat. 5ulolcing nnd healtll aud not uhout nny I,ypo nf c,ancer nrcel>t hu1L. autcer, right? 1)r. Temn-. Nn, sn~; 1 rcrl n inl,y wmild uot ngten tn t:hnl . I1f'.. (lntrrwn. `Vhy nnt?

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)2 CI/7.A11VTTL1 LABIdIdNI: ANII AIWI:ItT1SINl7--1tIn5 rzPirnHuu uf Ihirly tlnyu frum Iln li:nr murll ordrr nf tllr (tua:n:iuuino icnk relr tlrrod, ,udts. wllhin nurk Lhirly Jays eilhtvpnrly Iws luallulyd Pl'oe1'rvlinitr lo harc xurh urdnr enrtrclod su IWiI n. will ar,-trd wil.it Ihr uumdnle, iu .rhlch evonl: Ihr urdrr of il:v Iqnmalwulun uhnll Invnlnr Ilnnl trbru an /vn'rrrlrll. (j) If Ihc Supretne Cuuft ordr.r. n rchrnrh:{;; ot' If tLc rnsc Is remwWrd Lry Ihe cirr,uit° cnurl. uf appenls I.n tbt Cuumdueloa for a reLenrbtg, aud if (I) LM1e tiwt allolved for IiIDIK u petltiou for rcrllunui hns exPircd, nnll na vuck prliliuu hus 6acn :luly Illotl, ur /-') tho pcliliua for verllornrl ltnr bern dtnled, or (3) Ihe IIr:Juiuu uf the cuurl hnF Lreu nllirmrq L.v llm tinprrnm Uuttrl, ILrn 1'Ito ordor uf Ihe /'ummistlou rouderrd upuu nlleh rohrnrhlgnhnll berumr Ilu::l la Ihu aawc nuumcr n. 1hn11F11 an prlar nrtlrl' of Ihr /lo/uullwiun hnd Lveu rondrl'rJ. (k) As Ilsed lu f.ltin section Ihr I/rw "IUnuAnir;' In enuu" a mnudalr luw bruu rrcnlled prior tu ILC esplnd.iml of t.hitiy dapn frum (lie :l:dr uf isvnnnrr Ilunuf, lnonns ihe linal mnadnlc. (1) Auy Ixsson, pnrtnrrsLlP, or corpnration tvhn vinlates nn order of ILe f'mn- missinn tu cease nnJ desist ntter It hna Leromo Ilnnl, wtd wWle nuch nr/lor i., in rlTeet, shnll forfeit and pay to Ihe Ilailyd Sltdeq it civli lannlly of nul mnro lluln $:,,IN1n for encA vlohrtlon, tvhirll vhnll ncrrnn lu Lho llnllyd Nlnlus slid amc be rrcnvered lo n civll actlou Irrullgkt. by Ihu LInILed Slates. 19nclt nepunllu vinlal.lun of nuch nu urder nhnll Lo n..rptuulc u07nse, eseept Llint in tho rnno nf n violntlau thruul;h ronLiuning failure or noRlreli ta ubey it Ilual order uf ILo l1un:- misniou rurh duyr of conliuunnre af surh f;lilurc or ur/flerl Wwll h. drmwr:l u vepa r,tlo altease. 1Fir, 1)uoN. 1lwint nal. clnTilicnlll- Ihat1 soclion b(a.) i.s Jicidrd iulu sovore.l pnrls. No. 6, ti(n) (li) rends ne follows: 'Chc I'umml,.>;ioq is h.rob,V owPu,c.. rrd nad dirrotnl lo ptevuul. pr::rnuH. Pnrt- neryhlps, or rurPoraliuus eareVl hankG, ronunon carriers auL,lect tu Ihe urlr Lo I'rl;ulalc onauurrrr, nir trnrrlrrn untl G,rril;u uir currlrr, sn6jrrt la 16r f+eJrrnl .\vinliua .\ol, on:l INr.uun. Plu'larrshili., ur rorpnrallouu anbjrti to Ihe 1nrkrr, wtd SlnckynrdsArt- tvilh cilal.ions- from nsiaq nal'nir mrlhody uf rumprlilim: L. ounimerrc nnd w:fnir nr Jveoplirr uvla ur prnrl Lts iu rununrrac. Nolv Ihnt. s:ns (a wa the (;ouuuis-niou is hrrn6y nmpowerrd nud tli- mr.lo41 n ltrectul Lhn nso uf mtf;t ir mcl.hoJs of awlprl,il iou ill t.uronlorco uud tlnfnlr nr dec.eptive acts or pract icAs ill colmnqr2e. Non', Ihn urxk slrlion, 5(;1)(i), spclls nlol rerlniuly nun tcay tho CnnlnlitiLiion /;ut prcvnnl, il. AI. Ientit lvr, tcuultl inlrrpret it.; il, ,vl:alls oul. u Iq'nrrrtliu lc6rrr lce ta.u ivsur o 2r:lsr-;nnl-druiet nrdrr n I'Irr I lul.t prucerding. 'I'Lo Adlniuiviral.ivo I'rnttdrrlr :\rt ten:; ltanuvl Ly Illr ('uurrr5v ia 1916. 11, slm.r.itirallV Ilnd o. Rrrntf deul uf iulplie.atiou npoll Illt Ihc su- en.llod rroululoi;y bo2lirs, nnd it rriin.inl9 ull'rclwl ILr H'rdrr:J 'I'rudo Uonuui.nion. ~ Nolr, tvhn6 thn Fwloral 7'rudr ('unlluissiun llill iu Lrgim* lu ;i\rn guiduuar, iu Lr.l'inR tu Rivo nnma clnrilic;ll.iou lu law, 1ulhor tll;lu urh;tt ue 1L:td duuo ill Illr 6islnrinnl dS yrnx, tlnrinf; which Ive hltd prucrr:led uu n'hnl I chnsr. to cnll il. nquirrrt gun :tltl:runch. '1'his ulrn.us ynu ul Inrl: I hrln ono nl. ;I timh ill ;ul ndvre'w;y prorvatdiu{r, wherr yun trnldd evrul.nally grt. Ihrou;;h, i;2snc lt eratio.-wul-drvivt nr2lrr, wil.h Illr :urLn- mul ie. rr,;~tt of nppnal Lo;l cilruit ruwi:ulll l~t tho tiullrown ('omt vvotdd tatko ~1aco. L~elt uhen I tvvut. bnck lu tho ('aumlistiiun ns Chnirm:ul :unl in lulking lo nly olhcr /'nwwi:siunnrs, Ihn.t, we hnd nnothet oblien.l.ion. 11~e tecrr unl. 1ri 1 iu;; :ulp1VA heru duin,[ Ih is. lYo had 1 rictl nl.lhnL a};rn:'P /r;l l~i~~1 ti ~~,i1~.,ir Xlr.'1 . i~ :ll P,Cioi L.AIRI.INIi ANI/ :\l/1'hn'PIhIN6 19135 lu I1LCSe rna.ny yrnrs lo pick nul uuae rs:uupdr. Nnn', Inlto rig:lrrllr nd- rrrl.isiu;.,r. I,nl, uti Sap t.hcrn urn six nrajnl t.ignrolin unlnufnelln'rls. Ilit9nricnlly tro could hnvn pickrd ooo Ilmv vcanhl yon like lo hnrn kn3insourSIulel.lronnolvnplc,krd? Now, .vo c:ulnot pick ;rll sls. 11. .eunld lako thn samc coufounJrd reil.urssrn, nnd rvc t\uuld bo up hrre for ,yrnrs juA . lislnniu,q (u Ilio sowc tVilnrc5ox in all ais /uu+v. Wt,l.wnrdluaunl.herlnrocroling. Wrsa.idbutrll opoulhoud,lmuvl npon 1.6u .11'1', Ar.l, ba=rd upnn nll nf the; jadicinl rr.vire: lcr 1'nu1:1 uodm, vice lvorn goinl; In adopt et proltieedinl; loolrinl; Inmu-tl Ihe rslalr- lishule.nt of Imrurrnl Lrnda rclqnln.lion rnlos tll indue;U'ios, rdhnrn 16cy nould n.pply l:rlwpncl.ivnl,y, nott relrospcet.ivoly lilfn n In.vc cntin is. Mr Itnaul~c of''rx:1s. SYhen wus Lhin Jrc.isiun lnado? hIV. 111 soN. 196$un ndu Itrd this. nlr. Jtnurns uf'I'rxas. llott' long had (llc ('olurois,iiun brrn in exiGt- 1.ncc clnen Ihul.la:lt plnct.? plr.I)lauN. Siuce 1!I11,lltyenr.c. Nnlr, up lu Ihnl, lilno Ihiv ('uuuui.ilm hn:l l{icrn Illk i1'InI nf nllvirn nr 1luiJnucn IlrrouRh tionml.6iuR 1hultcasvxllyd;t (ra:lu rc};Idnlion rulrt lVn hnd i"surll Irnlr prn.+Iiuo rulrs. S1'n did Lh;diu iuducirirs tcltrrc Ille indutilly tenldd romo und s:cy, "Ielolt, tvu nll tlliuk \tr nrr I:ind If iu trouhlc. i1'e think lco uuiy Iro Iraun9rvssinq. \Yo vvlnlld lilrc to sil. /lolcn tvith }on aull tvil.h your llelp work ont. somo rulrs tllnt pon c:l.n prnnnll..alr, aud tvo tvi11 try lo livo np t:o Ihom,n Lhry nro ndrism'}', nn hilo in t.hrm, no hilo at nll, a Rrnllr.mnfn's ul,rrrrulrnh 1\'C a~uultl .kt 16i:, un/l 'rt oul. Ln grl. Ihi,c vulunlnry rompliame. 'I'Itry teorkrd crry mrll. Then Illo t`ornmissian hnd prorrrsshd nlon tn whrra ovrn n~ithout. Ihin r:1qnerl. froln indlf:dly, wo trnnld prorenl.~nu 1corltinR tri11L SIUn11 uuwhr.l,., uf rsprrts ollt, of indnstry nud issuo vflatt vcn onll it guidc 'l'hkil"nillo .vnnltl hn in ont dFel lF in n srnse, hut vvr, wottkl dissamnmin it.lo nll of thn nllectnd indusl.ry luonJx,r, vehrre Ihcy~ crndd Iakc frum this, ilnllC il, is tho vion~ uf fhr Comnritciou Ilenooforlh Illnt, if I.his is donr, tro Wonl:l Irrnorrd, nutl if md, we tvonlll u:rl, ng:lin to Iry 1.: Ilelp. N(:tc, nlI Ilr snluo linlr, in lu6`.N lcr ntlnplaed Illic rulr.. Wr. lururtl Itl nnol.hor vvoy lo ho11/ I.6n buniuos;unuu. 1 LllouRht. (-hr Amcrir;ul buni~ ur.~tiutnn \c;r rul.il.lydlubindin~nivieoifw'ecouldl;iveit(ohiul And wu om ulfnrr:l ln (;irn hinrliul; mhisnry opinionu rehera prxrliral and tvhrro o'a rnnhl do ils. '1'hrst wrrn rndicnl now drlnu~l:urrs, Nnw \vn hnll nsnd tho h':lllo rrti- 1dlllian rldn ptnrroding srvnlal tiulns Ixdorn \vo l,rot. lu the ciR:urtlo prnhlr.ul. '1'he rnncl.it.lrl.ionulil,v tf il; hns nnf, hnen 1furslinnrd. Tha lirst I imn it wns quosi.ionrd tca:: Nrhrn tve nnuounrr:l il, :nld Jmin;!16e hrvlrings no momhnr of Illr Iohncl+) indnstry npprorrll hnfam. uti. 'I'hc\ ln(.:r hewyr.r, nud thn lawyer told ns,f° You do nnl hn vo I hr Irl;ul rit;ht in (14) ihis" Now t.hat is what .ro have honrll frnnl 1.110 (ohaea, iudntill:y,notnore,nolems. AL. ltlxtrsns of'1'uxns. lyll Dixon, I nppteria(n all i.his, buf. II lnnnn I.vnntI lo got, back for n mimdn now In t.ho prorrtlurc Ih.rl. .vns ful- Inwrd. '. nndarsi;uld Lhnt tile Todcr;tl Tradc C)ommi5sion had bern in r.isl- , sinrn 19111 nnd lcril hrrn fnllotcin! n 1rrtnlll prnrllcr, :Intl (lun

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I(i(I Ctr,Ani:i°n; I,AUr;t,rur Arvn Amtat'rtStNa--Inor I Ir. '1'nuutr. I rofnr to otlla.r IyPes of c:muer wlticlt kavo :11 very deli- uilc. asoclnl.ion tcil6 sutoking. l.:uryni'cnl c:uteor is uuc, e.cautple, rcie- cer of I I)e mnutlt, eveu oaucer uf Iho urinn.ry bladdet'- Alr. ('alrrna. 1'es, sir; that, is qnilc Irue, Luf, it is ssia~ stranRc, is ilnot., Ittntt a1l.houRh tho lnt'.)'ux and trncllrn atn su~ij atssia ~adcd tu Itatvy aottrartlrnt.ious of sutnlm., crnucr.rs nre less cominoaly fonnd there Iluul fnrthmr down in 16e lnnl,g where I6e courenlrnlions of tob:ucco sntolce is ewcL less; is t6at not trne2 1)r. 'ISaun-. 1. du nol. knotv nxnrlly how 1 o austeer yont' qut,5l.iou, 1)r. (;t.rler. 1I tliinlc: Illis. '1'here haco I/ren su..gcstiuns t6a1. 1.6cre is sutnc, rclnlinnship uf lung cnncct't.o iulnilnlinn, Iknngit it is n. r-cr,y di0ic,nltt t6iu2; lo pruvo; aud cm'Ininly insofar ns thi,v is rancernrd, t6mn ttrc. umey fnclslJtuttcemedl.olaro.vmoroahnnl.. Mr. (',urrrnt. 1"cs, sir. In Lhe Lrnehca t1o do hn,vn lLe.a.rv e.uncqnlra- lions ef stuolce frout inhnlntiun, Init rnncclx iu l6e trac.hen Iw'e 1'cln- Lively r:ur.; is tLntnotl t-ruc.$ Ur. '1'eautr. '1'Itey at'n not. one of tke luo.st. connnon t,ypes of c,nnc,er; btd., Dr. CtuIAn', yal Itno"r ns well as T, tLat, cel-tnia tissnrs ale niurc resisLutt to nr less suscepii6le to 16e formntinn of t.untors, ineladin tnalif;n:ull, lesinns suc.h as rnnce.l','Ihan olhcrs, so thnl. 1dn nols lkinT (llls Itl'ov/'s llltyl.lLll~,r. Nn ('Airnen. If Ille smnlce of ~uigarc.llus clmsns c:ulrer, itt sccros I6nl. (he uis ol' ILn body which nre exposed to stronger c,onr.enh:ntions of 1~r,1e smulce tvoldd Le more rowdily ulTecl.ed. Th:d. tvnnld Ite lily c'ouc+lusion. 1)r.'1'rann. I tvunLlnol.ngreelntha.tnecessarily,sir. hlr. C:tlrrtat. 1)o yott really know .vLat, the snLstnoc,es in to6nceo suolco nrn LIutL prodnt:e Lhe Ileull:L hnznnls you st.y smoking ca.nsrs2 1)r.'1'n:mn. I tlo uot. Irnow nl) of Lltn subelnncrs in Labnsca I. 1:hildc tco kuow Inlm.Y of 16em ie relNinn to ccrLniu nhemicnl ,nbshlners ILnt aro 1'onnd m toLuct+o. TtTr. (1.vrrw.n. 'I'6nt tlo cnnso lnn2; enneer Y 1)r.'I'r.mn'. 1'rulrnlily in rcln.lion I,. Inngr 4^utcr.r. 111r.C',:urre:n. PruLnlilv. }`oucnnnotsnvdrlinihely. I)r. 'ITauly. I vaid 1.6nt,:nlier, sir, t.ltnt. n-e dirl not. know definitely. 11Lr. Cl:urrl:n. All riAht, thank you. Tn oll'erf., there is no nccepl.nlde evidence to sapport t.ho listing on cignrei.lo pnc.lca;;a_s nf the c.mnpnnenlF of r,iRn.rcl.te smoke as yen sng- gnsl, is tltere2 1)r '1'wmn'. 'l'Itis dot,: unP follutc ut till. Justi baautse ono cnmloff unme Llle exact. cnlrlponenl, w6ich may pla,y t,he priucit,nl pn.rt or n large pa.rl, in cnnsin2± lung cnncer doess nnt. mc.an there is no lmr.nrd assnciafed willl cignrel.lo slnokim*. '1'o sny 1Lat tLere is no haznrcl teuuld Ito a complr.lcl,y nn,jusl.ifie,d dedac.l.ion. :1~4 m mn ltcr of faal., nll nf ILn ecidencee point.g in Ille otlter direc,- tion, t.hnt ILorn is n, very definilo rc.lntion~Lip Letween cigarMte smok- in2; nnd lua r r,:mnca, ;ind nol, only 1.6a1., in relntion to thc dutntion sinolcc+l nullltn nmuher of ei-g:u'eU,ssnoltrd. Afr. ('nirrn:n. I bnlieve, you 6avr, confnscd Ihc tlueslion. I will re- prd. nly qucst.ion. TLt ctCe<'L, t.here is uo nccchln6le evidence lu support (lie lisling ou ciRnrelle pec.lnlgrs of Iko conij,nnrnls of c.i;,rnrel.le smokn ns yon snh- ac..1 1 .. 11 . ,, 7 I i. If ,... _ I . - I iantuF.rrr: i,Mnra.mt: nvn Anvt:lt'rtswo--Inan Itil I)r.'I'iantv. 1. Iltinlc tltcrr, is titdlivirnf. snf!;!c:aivic evidc.acc tllnt Ilirrc i; le rnrrr.aitlnt111H1,r rc.lal.ionsltip hel.tvt'en peodaelinn uf Jiscnsc in n<- surlntiou trilL ri2!are.llc~t to justify Iisl.im tn.r untl niculinr ,onlcnl: 5rs, sir. NIr. l'+irrr'.it. 'I'6anlc ~ou, sir, for mltaiil.ing 16at it wns r:ng{{csiicc. rv it ltvlrc. 1)r.'1'mutr. I ndmiltod Iltat nnleh e,ulier. I told yon that, this wns met'oly sug2;estive evidence. 111r. ("ntrtrat. '1'hank yon, sit'. '1'hn.t, is my fmint exnctty. '1'he Cnnntntex. Is I Ilcrn rcfcrruce iu this repolt, as to tllo ngent9 in tobacrn Ut>ntor2 llr.'Ituvnr. 'I'6ec.llc.nlicnl rnalpnsit.ian? '1'lte. Cnnutnrnn. Yes. ])1'. 'l'rtutr. Yes, sil'. 'l'he Cu.llrzn[nH. 1Vhere is i(.? I h:u,e Inokcd for il.. 1 f yon dn nul. know right off, why dn not, bolher. (io altond, 1)netor. 1\fr. CAnrtae. Woultl you agree 1.6at. lang etman' necars iu people n'Lo have nerer sntolcetl? 1)r.'1'I:Intv. Tcs, sir, i wonld ngrce. Afr. (7,,Irrr.n. Agootl Ilt nf testimnny to'llmt effccd. hnscd on the hrrsonn-l rxperienco of It:tl.kolt,t{ists aud surgeons Aeus givcn to Ikc. ticn nl 0l lnn u uorre ( 701111111H400, [vn s i I. not.2 Ur. '1'r:nnc. I helieve tltis fnut %rns pt'esonted to 16n contntill-c, yes, sir. Mr. CAnrr,n. Ayhat causes lnng cancer in nonsmokersl 1)r. Tracm'. I do not, know, sir. T Lnve not contendtxl at. any time, Dr. Cnrler, thnt c,igarelte smolcing is t.6e only cause of lung cnncer. Mr. Cnttrtat. Occnpntion and polltdion do not ncconnt for all of it, clo tLe.y 2 ; llr. 'I'rnatr. I told yfiu I tliti not. know, sir. Afr. ('.vn'mlt. Itut. pollulion, nir polluUun luts prndurril -you Irovo protluccd lung coner.r in r.xperinirnlal lutintnls by Ilwl1 mclhal, linre yorl net n-ilh hydrocnr6ons4 llr. 'j'nanov. tiuuto I,ylms of unncor hnve lie,c.tt pnnlaced. IVltelhcr lung c,utrer 6sts bcen prodnced ot' nnt, I mm 110 . certnin. Itfr. (',:vtrtat. Thntt is tt'ne, there I)ns been, batr with no olltrr sub- sta.nc,o. Ilow do yon knotv t,hnt. tJwt untcnown factor is xtol1 nlso cnasing lan~ c:ulcer in smolmrs4 I)r.'I'rmn-. I tlo not Intow, bntt it may cmttribute tn ILe proilurt.iun of lan;; ctncer in smolrnrs. Rtd. c.erla.tnly ILo very elrar c.ridcncr ill 1'rlntinn to tke incitle.ncc and tlto pnsitivo tx+lationsllijl bclnvccn Ihe tplantit.y smolced convinces mo Lhnl. t6ere is n vmy delmitn eunstdivo rclnt.ionship. As my committee hns snitl, tLat, in its opinion it is t.lto principal cnuse of Inng cancer in tVho United Stntcs. ffr. CAn'rrn. 1Vit.ltotd. nny basic rner,kanism hn.ving Ix-en idenl.i/ied. Ih' Tnnit.. I do not think Iltis is quite trno, Dr. Carter. I think thnt t.6e stntlies that Lnvo beon tlnno on the mucons membranuw of the t.racheal-bronchinl d'ee nmonlg smokers nnd nonsmoketst nnd Ille sluQies ef Lhc olTcct of ui~~rnrntl+ smolte on tl6e e,ilinly action of LLo bronclti, n.lY+ all, to my ntinfl, very stl'ollgly slll)1)orllFe of Ilte s1RtIsI1C0.l evidence of 16e incidonc.o of lung cnncer nlmlug c,ign.tr,tte smokma. Mr. CAm'nn. Again this is'statlst.ic.nl and not. ncl.ual. Imug rnnrer hr, n:'vw' brcn )uodncnd in fhis tnnnner, hns it4 I vatlel~lnnd thnt

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150 t'u:.4110:'I"I'I: LAHPII.INU ANn dU1'1:II'I'IRINl7-1965 I)1'. IIUICN. LrI'n n.re n. rood nlanc ~urcrys II)nl, nrr dnnr. fnr tIlr /iucrrulnrul.. Af r. I(olcrvEuar. ln n.ny nns\crrs lle nli);Ilt gin.? 1)r. Ilo¢N. TLcru a re n l;'rKld uuuly snrveyn dono fur Ilic ( lulrt'nulonl in ILn 'wnn \"uy a~Liah Laro n murL 6i~Lrr rninof rtrfusll. ACI. Knlcrvr.unY. YOU IPstilied, I brlir\~r, I11:11, yoa nnly inlnrvictlyd d7,f1(10 )enplo. Isn't t hnt rinLls? I h. Ifulox. 9,7110, Sir. Tfr. Ko¢NI=.anY. 4,7001 1)r.llonrr. Yrs,vir, tccndd IC\OoN/Em redrfifordoin1+47,t1UO inlIr}~ul}, rlItollull'i\tlllt s toun 1 .>, 11 oeuln;{t oflliototnlndull. 'mxlln.lion. Afl. VnN I)eaavaH. Will t.Ile gtmtlnnlnn y'ield f Tfr. KonNr.anr. Yes, indrstl. 11ir. VAx l)onsm.tn. '1'hn llallup snrvey iu couduct.iug a n:tlionwidr siunny reliua eu 1,21N) sumplin~ y. Mr.h;uaNeoAi'. lslhutdenlinl a'ilLlllisvnbjcetmnflrr? Afr.Vnxl)oaenLtN. Cumpnrnhlnsldrjrrttna.llrts. th. IInon. 1 f I ulit;lt couunrnt on Illnl, sir, 16o ty viral md.ionnl Fnrvcy coulnins from 1,21N) It) I,5OII inlrrvicvrc. 'rllo po~il.ical slurrl'y on itnirutiuus lo vnle fm. Trrnvitlrnt. uud so tm lu'e Lyl»cally 6ns\d on tppro.imnlcly ILisnumLrr ef intr.rvirsr~, uud obGtin resttlls thatLnrr l+oerrurof nudra4 pnrccnL. an uvm'n ntmbrr~tmx>:oAi. Anyway you frel ILnt, ynn inlr.rvioaod it sllfirie:lt. 11[r. ot ~n~nldnto;~r.LurrIulLlorrwJl.E 1)r. I lourr. Nn, 16n ynrwlirms Ilulll hncn 6rrn asked nLau6 LLnI. iulply eulue ruut,r.ru als to Ilun pnssible nct+m'ary uf I llis inlervir\a and tllc inlrl' ritnc rnulllri. 1 tl.m41 liltt. In vnhnril Car Ilu, rrrnrd nt rrrv br-i.f :dulr wont on nnolllrr poll a'hirll vcns tlt,nn tIuile iuQt,l>,ndr.nfly hy lem I lu.tris, ill tcIlrllu yuu 1)n.ve nhrudy rrArn~rl, nnd \v6lnll npponre.d ill Li. syntl iv.nlcil roluum un I~ rbrum~y I, I J(ia. 1 fn uslttd t.lu'rn qutwl ioue in Ihe ulvu of nuwltiug. Alllloul±ll llisqnrs I ionv oelv. phra~rtl somntvlmt dilCorrnlll', I hrro wi,m 1.wo qurstions ILnI. apPr;u11d tu Le I1yiuR tu y,+rl, ul. Illee suwn opiuions uv t\en nf I:Iw qnrs.. I innt in uur o\rn :;hnly, mld tllry rrsullrtl ill nlmml. idrnl.icnl prrt.rul nRev ns eurs. Tor r.ntuplc, un rrtptiring u\snrnina hlbrl ('n t6r Pnrlcngr, Illis \1'us neeeptbul in Lis 1roFl Ily 62 pnrcrnt nnd t'ejer.lcd I>.y 21) petrrnt as com- 1va.rcd Io mlr own poll results of ('il to 30 percent. Tllat ts I pa'rautngr point. off in enc,L. 5ilnil¢rly, Illo proposnl Ihnt. Lhe sllin{( of.ciy;atr.l.tes sllould la\ ,u'o- Libitcrl .cns rojreted by 71) perceut of lllo pnpnlat.ion nnd aa:n vterl b,y nnly 20 prrarnt m Lie pnll ns comp.urd tn nur sarvr,y flfinrr9 of70 nnd 23 pnrrenf, so LLn.t of 1.6n fom fignr<;s in vclliclt tco hnvo a diroctd rum- pluari ~l~nn, olm e'av idonticnl, 1.\vo cnaird 6y 1 1K.rccntnRro poiul., :u)d nu~' c rd 1 ry onlp 3 pcrrcn t n rn poilli s. 11fr_ Krn;Nltanr. Now let nlo ncl: yon ILrm qnrslion oignin, doctor, :unl tllnt is did you question it sullir.irnt numl)rr, in your opininn, 1so comr up vvilll n relinblo tesult, is ILnl.right? I)r. 1fonK. Yrs, siri vvilhin Ilio ortlt'r of nmgnilaldo tLnt. I t.Lougld\V nB llrr'rVsnl'y. Tir. Ku¢rvrv:anS-. Tu nlllrr vvurde, ynn lLnvc ronfidenco in tLia rrport \cliil h r:tuir,ln cnrt. l'uiAIIPfI"1'b: I,AItI:LINtI ANI) AIlA'1:11'I'ISINfiIOOS 1:)1 1)r.IlrqtN. Yt5,F11'. Alr. Iiunnrnnr. Iln\v f:n d-n\n ILr linr ur \chnl. nnoiLrr tc:l. 16r In uskiu. ILe pcrwnl briu); iult,r. rlnostiou wliou yon liunlly gn1.:n'uund Fietred vehnt 114) IhunR6t uboul, eigurrlto laLnliul; in ;tdcrrtising~? .I/1. 11onn. tiir, /lla6 dtpeudotl uu n'llirll furul of l.ho qntstiunnaira Iln vene Iroinl; aslcrd. DI« RouNr.n.\r. 1 f iI. isn.stnukrr. llr. I loos. 16 drrt:5 nnl. tunl li'r vchellLrr iliv n. snnlcrr nr not. Wr lhntl fonr dill'r.rrut. forws of Lllw inlrrlir\r. Iv(r. KunNnunr. l)ly you wran you ditl uot. have Ihe s7unr fol'm I In'nu~hunl l ho slu vcy. I)1. Ilo¢N. lYt, uskrd 1,110 s:uuc qnrnlions, but we cnrind I.6re fxtnre- <Lu'n uf nskiul; tlto qursl.ious su 111111. tco n'onld hnvo u ulrnswxs of Iho usinntL tu \vllinfl III/\ 1/111YIslllt,+ of Ihe qnestion, ILe Ixtvil.ion of 1.6e qurs- t.ian, Illltt (11P SMInPIII'11111 \CI11CI1 (hl1!'IWtitll/ll N'lls asked Illlt!61, iutlarnco f.he ollniro of lulswet~s. Alul on \s ill un in 16o appandic I~) Ur.'1'vrr.ys 1UFIIlllully I~IL nt9'olltlt fUr ORt'/1 uf 16e fuur turma. '1'hn s:nun qwyl.iuns u'rrn nslced ill elfrr.l.. Ilalrorcr, ill vwno c:lsrs Ihrsc queclinns vcrrr usl<nd ncnr Lliu Irr~,.inniul; or 1.6i, lulrrvie\r, iu s'.rlure Ihty. \crrn :rvkrd unur ILo r.wl of Iho iulr.lciott'. lu sowo cns`s Ihre wtro tlskrd or;l.r 1.6u 6rf,.imliu;f ol' Ihn srtplrwr. uf tplrstiunv ou rrulrrjiul act ion, iu .nutn rnsen I hry tcrrcl aslced ural' I6r rud of I Lnt stjuancr., and ill somc 1'ol'lns I:ho queslinn vc;ts plunsed ill ouo ulanutr, n'Inlo in :ulol.hrr foeul ilwns lt6rnsenl conrot.el,y' 'I'liis is n prnrtdurn Illnt. is nnrd in urdrr to mensnre Illre dc;,+rrre t,f rLnnt~o tlrel. ir: lnlntdncrtl Ly 16rr:n rurlhuJnlo;!itnl ruu:;idrrnl.ionv str us lu lut snrn IluctIco tu'e. ill fncL ubjrrlicre ill inlrprrlinp. Ille rr~:ulls. Alr. ICratNSr..I\-. tiorl. uf lilcc n I)I'Inirll t111IIo11t1 illl /IPrIJnll, /99r'\ Po uuu1C I16ou:clurl 1'uu e6nnow I hn lu"::il i"u:. ei I Inil ri);hl.? Ilr. IItmN. Yrx, ciri I~lic ptrviliuu vnn inllurntn I6e Iv::nlt Iry 1 a `S Ir(irreulnRn pniulv, tiowrl iulrs hl' morr. Alr KtntNuunv. l:uuld you give wo Illo inforumtiou obold, \ellrrr ill rnr.h uf Lho fuln' dill'r.rr.uL {ormx 1.6u1. you ust:d ur f.ho dilft'.tx+ul.sryarueo Lhnt. yon Iinnlly 1utt dotcn Io nvlcint% 1Ln rluo.:l.iun n6oul. riprmr/lr, Inlrol- in~,1.LolaLeliul;ufr.iy;nrtd.lre? I)t. I Iur7N. 'P6e 611rrliul; uf nig:urlIrs? In nntv forw, fiirul A, il. \ras ugLod iw quml.iun 316, NvhlrlL nng ut,u~ ILn nwl uf Ille inlr.rvir\cr nnd ilt us ilrm (1 ) lnlder Ilnd, Ilud, ix Ihe s'\'euUl ill Lhu seritr uf e(rlurtl.inl nal.ion qursl.loua. In fornl lt il vcns als> nslctyl ns quc:;l-iou -.I('r, lwt tLis Iinlo it vcas Illo sevunl.h f ivnn thn la st iu 1 Lo serirs. In forul C it was nsed near the bcl,inning of the int+lrvicn'. Af r. Kt ocrv re+AY. I t. »as qncstion 2 Hi ? 1)r. IltrnN. Yes, sir. Ilt fornl U ilh vc)ls nsked ns queslirm nluulier 2G wllirh /uok plntr \eit.lun Ihe lirvl. In nr 1` nlinnlrs of Ilir. iutrr- 1'imc awl il. \rnm again f:Lre srvtutL ilrm in ILr vrrux of qutA.ious rm remrdinlurlion. Iu iol'w I) it vres nlw) qursliou nuhrr 21 and nPlin sevcnlll in pnsit.inu. ''6is is onr. uf ILe prcrunlim nns ono tnkes in dning a good pnblit oliiniou slu'vr;y, sir, ill rn-drr lo Ile nble lo tueusnrn vvlmtr tllese url.ilir~ial tIl'etIs may Lp hh. ICnnNlaa,tr. I)id it prodnrn nny dill'errltelfrt.ts'?

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1'lll\III:'I"I'11 IAItKIdNI; 1Nb :1b\'b:IFrINN(1In/1L I.ti.1 I8'u ItI1lAkfrr'I'i; LAlihll.IN/; ANIr 1111h11t'I'ISINn-lOfiG L)o Ihr. other hmld, I do uol. Ihiuk Ihal this nllers IJIe banio ooncrld t:hat \ee hnvo n1Rmt t.ho rol:tl.iuu nf r.i;mrrllr, nmolcin}; Io Ilnlg c.ttnrcr or ccrl aiu ot.hr.r 1liseavcs. In ot.her words, I.hrae nmy be tnon. Ihwl ner snbstnnrc t.hat luu'tiri- Ilales in cansing lun(; cllncor, htd ilt is crry rlrn-I.hnl.Illv rrlnlmns6ip 6e1.vvrru ci/r.,a.relle smoking aud lNUg, ranrrr is so sl.ron;,r Ih:d1 our cool- luil.len fellthlt.l. Ihis was Lheprinc.ipRl farlur. The rumnlil.lrr Ilid Nw say, for iusl;tnce, thR.l( it was the only factor. Mr. FAnNSI.nr. Well, I did nol. mcan Io imply Ihatt.his w'ns. (:onld itbe I.lmt virunr.N laense il, Itll, or dn snme prople. believe (hntB This is roally an innocenl, question. Dr. '1'tann-. Is ilt t.rue t.lln.l. some penplee helirvn viruses rmse nll cnneer$ Mr. FAkNSLer. Conld il. turn cut Ihal NII rRnccr iscnnsed by virusrs, or do some pooplo now believe that Y I)t. 74:mtY. rRt Ille S:ty Iltls. 'I'ho belicf is prll.in~r rnry stron r IltntI virnses participate in t.ho for7nat.iott of some 1.ypus of cancet. I r~o not think yon could say all by any meana. 'I'he sl rmlgest. evidence in Ihat direct.lon points to letdtemla wllich \\c. /'ousidea' :ts c.nerar of t.lte whilee blood cells. Cmi.ttin viruses have been isolated, identified in tLe blooll of persmvs wiih leukemia which havo uolINen fonod in Idtr blood of normRl individuals, and the same is Irne in nnilnalc, wil.ll n.niuud lotdcemia. I t.hinlc there is n very strong snql;esliou IhaI. virnsec unry be itnportmtt in tlte causation o f cerl nin Lypas of cn ncer. Mr. FAnrvsl,yn-. DI>,'.I+n', .yon cinlnolt inln-ine what 11 nicr loh I lmvo t;ot. I hnvu great scimd.isls who hrlp ronilnrl seminnrs Gu nlr. 1I is wonJcrful. I have Rol, one more. This is frmn the New York Times, daled :lpril N. `Lnng Gulcr.rT~inll toTlormunrs seen>' ''his is ull yrvlrl' (lily. I l;ut r,xcltnl. 1guess theso Ihinl;s ronle errry day. LUNn IIANOFR 1dNK TO IfORMONL6 f]r.RN--t'A'rrRIINa OR CIIANOFF rUUNI1 IN CAI.u+ouNIA SuIRF's I llp \1alhr Rullicuu) .\ nluvv,l' of nyl Califuruinns ut u lem Aul;rlrs hnapll.al Iws bruughl In light pnl.nrus of hununw rlNman Ihnt srvlu ITPiiall of \'nl'iuns furlus uf ranrcl\ IarINll- hiK th-e Ihnl Illlnck thr lml4s. lt had bcen nunlnsl.ell Lhnt wnlc hnrnunnn VIRy n role In laag cancer hlrnear the 1116e11ne IR so mRch 11torC COInnIUn 111 IIWtI Ihflll 111 woouen. 'Phe 1Nrcentnge uf umle vlctlmn aeuamd hlHher Llmn emJd be esVlniuell hy Ihr Frrldrr Prr. ldenrr of cignrette awoking in men thnu in women. The nurvey was carrlell out by the Llnlvernlly af SmlHlern California 8chnol (If Medicine. It wae Ihrurihel to the New 1'ork ArndwnY of Mencen nC a meetinR being held this wcek at I:he WalJorf-Asturhl 114.1r1. I)r. Jesale MnrtnorvGm nf the medical Behool pres/mterl Ihe r?Inrr/ unll ruluq;rd ul.m il ntt n nuns wm- fcrcueeyesterdny. Dr. 'I'eum-. I Imve not seen this orit.inal article. I loo saw the newspaper art.icle and t.hatt is all I Imve seen of it (hos far. Ilowever, I might say that over R ctmsidernhlo I~waiod of Lime ill relation tA/ lhc actual diffefr,nce in lnng cancer, as an osample, amonl; nlen and wonmrt, IAud, illorc hns bcc.u :t suspicion, a qurtil.ion Its lo \chrllLrr Illrrr. i5 le Lornloual intluence which may play R pat'1,. In ol llcr words, the relntive fRtlance of Ille ntale and fr.malo :1z hnr- mones msy play a role. I do not. ihlnlr vcr knnw :ulv~ ansvvrr to it. 11is rrrla.inly' a mal.let' \ehil.11 weriln rnu~ldernblr esploraliotl, ju~l :Is in corlain otllra rmlrers whe.ro. IhrrcV is n dill'rrcul-r bliwrrn thr I\cu sexes. For inst:mce, 111ntr is a uulrh hit;her iurideuce (if sluRlnrh r.:ulccr antonf; mnn IIIRn amnnf; woRlrn. \Fhy is Ihis l.rno? I do nol Ihinlc \vr. Irn.lly latow Iodtq'. Alully of Ihcse Ihinls :nr being czplocrd, blt1l wo iu'a oot am'n why Lhr;y nrr I rue. Air. IcnnNM.r,r. ('oalll Iftis Is: sorl, ol' likco whld','on saiJ n\rllilt ht!u? I I. is :Inrd Lr.r cnrurcimll±nn? I)I. '1'F:ItR\'. I I hlllk it. is e11I li'ely possible tIn1I. Ibis 11111 C I1e I rlle, IIU'. Fa.tusle_y, tlntlt tllis is anutber une uF sevara I factors trhicb inflnruc'e the p:1tm'n. b1r. FA11NSlan-. I. Reess yon have 1Men asked this qnestion, llow dn 1 nnswor tLo qNCsliou etysel f, is thct'u trasuunblr, donhl. IJRrut ciqnr- oldos dwiag I.he causo nf omlcot' ur a prinr.ipu-I ettnce Rs wr hnve snirl, of 85 pelrent of htng c.n.ncerP 1)r. '11=.ner. 'I'n Nly mind Ihtre is not nnv nnsounble. ILlubl, \II'. Fat-nslc;y. Dt r. FnltNnlvsr. 1'ou hnco nnti\con.l nry qnevt i(n. 1)r. '1'latm~. 1/ould /ptolo l o yoe hr.rn---1 hn vr ulnrln', l in hen.-_-- AL'.FAnNSIaFr_ 1-nodono1.hat-olo,Doclor. 1)r,'1'h.mlv (eontiuning). lndicntion oF several scieelisls;lud scicu- IIIif. rl'tmpc \chn Inkn a1 simil:u' plKiliun. Iu other mol'rk. I (lo nult sI nallrR.lane nu Illit. Tfr. h.\nN.1l,r.r. I\cIII Inlcr pour :luS\rcr'. Illai. Illoro L: o" nm-uun6lr dnnbl. I)IL 'Ib:INrr. 'I'o mv Nlind Iherce i,+ no mRnonnblr tlonhl 16n1 Ihi, is t rur,. hfr. FA2NSLNV. \Ylult. arr Ihrse rn thinhs I Itnme;rol ?\ nu :Irc rNl- inr. Llmm oul , n rr you nof.'? Ilr.'Ibaulr. I anl nol. rnlin}; Illrnl ..nl. 1 Ihink Ihul uRr L:1. In runcider thnl 161s nla.v pnrlicipute, bnl. th:llIhny Ihrw.rl\r~+ mi~~lil uol. ho r.nuogh la rwlpe 1 hn rll'rel. a lour. hfl'. F\NNI'Iet'. .Io/lilu,.6n11 Icni :lll Illrln nrrrn~nrir:::llirr Ihl fnrl? Dir. NA/nc.\r. 1Yould yoa ~'irlll? hfr. F.412NFLF:Y. IA`t Ille IIMk I.h(, joJgr, whnthnra we p"rl h/n Irrnlly. I\ras nnl :t mry goud I:nvyrr, hnl, a la w.) rr. hfl'. G:LLnNll0111:N. (!outl'ihldirrn. Itfl'. FAnNSLF:Y. (:/)I'n1XAllOnClls, Ihals /llrl'e 15 ]io rrnsannLle dollht IhRt e.i;,rrlreLlAM+ cause RCi perrcnl ol' nnc c.ncer Imfl wr IINIk oul Iht've cocatr.ino;;ens Ihat. I as R lawyer voldd likr to inkn rour nr in legal I e.rms. Mr. h.I.1.P:NIRMINN. 1,'hy Ilo yoo t\ish lo Inltr cnre uf Ilu'm? N'll'. VAnNRIBY. 'I'Ile IIIWJ/tl' r'N11 1'llll: I I1e111 UIII. IO Illc .;11 i<Inrl ion, 61tl. I aul a. laynwn anll a lnlvyc.r, nnd I\conld like yun lu luIp rnlr t henl onlfor mr as it lawycr. \fr. I:Ia.I:NntNnKa. 1s II. lawycr, ns 1 s/v t.he dill'erenve. t'il;:u'ellcs are Imn'kele.l, ndvmlised, a.nd sold, and these cocurciuotetus--if yne are spenhimg, of cor:lreinovens ol.hcr Ihon Lhose in cipnrrlle nmokr_ . nlav nol. 6r,. I nlrnn, hnlv do t'ou idcnl ify Ihem and hu\\du ynn ron- IrolIhcnl9 ~ . Air. FnnNSl.r:r. 1Ynll, 1yo hnlr wn~nilirrnl. InlaNl In Illr hr-:ll16 Jf. Irnrlnr:d.lo n/lrk nn Ihis I hinr nl':lir pidfNtiou.

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Illti CI(iAlilPr'I'll LAIILLIN(1 ANII AU1'IIlt'1'IFfNt:--106a snmot clllw, Irulyuu cnu'L InulsLtlcI fruul rig;u'vlIes lo pilms auld ril;arti. Tlln Uu,ultal.tN. NuwILis nays tluli.lhr /~~h;lrru Ina.f ruulniu. u vonl- plcs mislmr uf chrmir;ll rnnllroncul4, rrlhllusn I>rodncls. '1'6n1 is uol. luty nluro problc.ln Ihnu slaHl, ls It'? 1)r. IIuNUIa:r. 'I'ob>nsn, uf conrnr, is a te,l',el-able uuttarl7tl, I31r. It hm umyy uf Ihu snwe cnmpunnuls ns ul.6cr veqnLltbin materials, Ltd. Iharo arn ulsu solno clllsse9 of c6cnliettls Ihat :Ira Ilniquts to 1.6e tubu.o pl:uli. Thn OnAatactN. Yes. 1)I'-lf1iNl11di1-. '1'ISS,%11'. 'I'lloCununslAN. Ru6l6n.1t wilhiu ilvelf n,nlldu'Lcrralonuy prnllloul. 1)r. IILNOI.r.y- tinnlo nf 16cso uen :Illculuids, sir I-hut do ivn riso to hydrtx'urlk/us when Ihey are Lurntal, und nlst> Ijle genorn~clnsti of ulalnrinls frow Irhidl Illu nicul,ino luld olher ronlpouents colne nns wti/ un lo toLnceo. '1'~l0 (`u.tutnt.>N. 11u1. 11>n IxKly cuuswu/ri this kind of n Component. ill t~urious ptodunls. I)1'. I I UN ULM:T. I 11 fqll 111R yuu nlr:l n, si r? '1'he ('u.tntnIAN. 1Vell, nt ttha.trver lrap il, is; yes. Ilr. Iluvul.rn'. AluuY cummott mulnrilsls. 'I'ko (.neutmAN. I)rmkiug or (!I'ttiug ut trh:dot'er it ntiRllt be. Ur. IIuaul.Fr. ]`rc; indeod. - 'Pltn UunrrtnlaN. Now starches, you gols sturc,6es out nf otlLat prud- ucts? 1)r. IluNUr.ta. All forlus of :mitnal :md vekelltble umturials lutln sla.rnces in Ihnuysir. '1'Le ('nsulmnN. 1'roloiu? I)t'. I1UN1/18.C. 'I'6u sluun. '1'ho (111AIItn1AN. 'I'Imlis unccnsary lo IILU melfislv of tlto luxly. Ur.111INUl.o:x. (,juilaw/. 'I'ku (hl.tutmnN. Sup;nln, I didu'G kuutv tobnrco Ilad all tLis in it,, alkaloids. Of cow:su you grot. I,hnt, in cn.riuns wuys and dill`oroul, 1r,oul- >uurnls. '1hrorn is uo tcuy I suliponn Iu pnsrut lll0 9unly, if il, lives, 1'mu cousunliul; w>lun Iciml oF a.llc:lloid, is 1.6nrn? Ur. IfITNnl.nt. Allcaloids nro n lila.Iu Jitl'1rcnt., sir. '1'Iteso luo nol, rulumou lu Illl crgnla6lc roslnrials. '1'6n(?uAruntAN. No,bul.Joa.l,rmtwuuy. Ih'. 11uN)l.l:r. 11 R_ real. rltauy Itllcaluills uf ouo kind or Itnot.her, bul, mnuy uf Ihrut mill uothacu luu~ulfol or nny physioingi(;ttl elfeel. Stnuo du. For extwnlde, nrgol. is a puiwnt 16nt is wl alkaloid t.l1aC is found wulrr rui)nls snlostarrcns. Tiw ('unulnlACr. 1'ts+l.iu substn.nccas, is Illak mle tLnt causes a.ny lAlrrnl.? . . 1h. IluNOl.nr. No, sir, Iltesn aro (lie sauln Illings Ih;tl, 6Ley uso for makiul: Jnlly, Pee.l ins- '1'hu (SI,ultmnN. 11'rll, Illul, is u('resc:try luo. 1 aul I.I,yiu;; to find ti.'6ut ruml>ouenls tcn Intcn Ilero I h116 arn ru.usin~ Itll this. 1)r. I GI Nul.r:r. 1Pall,1 bcru tlre I.tco Icinds of rompouculs, sir. lf yon willlurltlopagoKG-- . '1'Ln Cn,sutnr.tN. led.'s sl;ly srilh tLis. 1 dun'1, wnut t.o lmva ILis very (deur dt+:;:.ripl.ion ol' tchalt is uonl,tiued iu 16n Itdwaeo 6vtf. Now you eun luru to 16c olher Iwg,n lu explain ttlLnt. yun tc;lnt lo, bul, let%s nol.,aI ;Ilc,ly I'n0nl lhi~. 1'11:,11t1PI"1'I: I,Altl:LIN7 ANP AP\l:II'1'IRINIi-11)115 11)I) I)r. I InNm.r:v. 11'rll, vn I',u' :Is rir,'mrtlrs, sit, ILr I6in;;q Ilolt nr.tlbr nlvs uol4 ill 16n lu6aroo Lul scLnl i., ill 16r v/uukl. 'I'Lis is 16t' Illiu;; lo sehirll pr,qdn lun t'xpn,vtl, unll Ihrrr :n'e utnterials 111311 atn iu thr IoL:uco. 'P6n ('u,vI1n1AN. ll'e.ll, I uvwt lo go oultch(-u I tc:ls a buy orud snroko x cina, tcn c:lllnd il. Iha rrnss cine. I)id yon e.t/v reeall Ihe crtw~s cined 1)r. IloNUl,l:r. Nu,sir. 'I'Ln ('.Il,tuenleN. Yuu Icnmv Ithal 1:un Iallcinl; ulw,ul ? 1)r.'ll:mn. lrs, I dn. 'I'ho ('n.tlu nl A N. I w I k:tt 6n iardum? Dr. 'Il:Itrr. I Lnro nu idra, ir. I nnuld slly tlml. 1,140.111,13. Ihr osprrieura 16n1, n'n luttn lr.ld iv sn liulilyd in Irrlnn ul' Illt mmolxI's nf pro dr. au/l I.hn Illn'nliau of ('zposm'n Llud. it. ~I'otdd 6e cory Imrd lu evn~n:tlca il.. '1'1LO ('.uAUtnr.tN. I vupposu yuu 6ucc snlnkcd rub6it lobarro, 6uve yuu,doclur'? Ur.'I'r:ltln. Yrs,eir I lulre. 'Phu('uAUtntAN. AA4ml.islll:tl.h.v.:>r11? I )r. '11;vuv. I dunI.I:nmc. Ali'. F,utrvsl.h:r. It. is bad fur tuice. 'I'6n ('n Mlnt,lx. 1Jid you Im.to sonuIlLin); else you tc:llllyd lo ..:sy abuul, wha I. tvas on page fi(i lil. this poin6? ])r. IIuNnLNr. 11'elI 1 jnsl..anlnd 10 ~wiutout, sir, lhalIlnn Com- ntittcn luls idtnli/ind flero snlnn Gven o Iltesn r:ur.inotgcuil. rturcr. rn.nsiuR Illewioltls Illntarn in t6n swolce of t6o tal.nreo. '1'his is une rlass of malrrixls Ih:lt l>us lwrn idenlilied tcilh lu6arro. '1'hn('neuenr.trr. I Icnutv.llttt yuu nrr gettinl,. aany fronl 1111. problrlo. 1'nll arn gall.inR ahe:ul uf lue. IAI'x slny n~ith tc6nl. I knve I;olhrrr. \y'a auRllt lu sce whst/llr b:lsic clluu uf I Ilis is. 1Vae ur lulking nbout. 160 lo6acrn Irtxf uo>v. ' I um I-I;yint, lu lind oul. Ichat is iu ILo lu6acro lesf Ih:tl is c;nlsiul; nll LLis. Ilydr«arlvms,tv6ercdoyoul;ot.IhatP 1)r. 11uNUl.rs- I lyllroclu'bnns, sir, ln'r nlulrrinls like "awlinrs. l ins- nlinr, is a Ilyllrot:ni)nn. '1'6a ('II:UItT1AN. E311:111s11 flltllt`C, is Illnl II)tlrur:u'Lous'/ I)r. 1 I UN m.la-. 1"V.1, si r. '1'6n(;IlArttnlAN. S\'lultiso p6rnul? 1)r. IIvNUi.lsr. 1'hennl )'on scotd(1 I(1106' as P:Irllt>IIP IIPIII, sir. 11is pnisun. I I. is u e.6cntirnl. 'I'Lu ('llAUCnt.sN. 1 wcrlJtl nnt M>nt..(n tnko Itlsy nf (61dt tlsnn. \1't will Ilndernnorss Illat.. Falty aci/ls2 1)r. IluNnl.lar. '1'hesn nro a6entic111 sabstlutces tIIItL ore componeuls of fut. 'Plln (1nAnLrAN. 1Yn a11 cnnswuo fal.ly acids iu nlnny Icllys. 1)r. IInNl,lma~. '1'h:rll islnrrrrl. '1'1>0 ('.ILtucnlAN. Isuprenoids, IlutlU nulst Im. onr, Ilwlr wnuld'Irn b;td. 1)r. IItINIn.In-. 1 t.6ink Iltat, is ouu of Ihn alkalnids. 1 don'I. Iruma Ihall. 16is is bld in ilself. R nlny, however, st'heu burnrd give riso to solnn undnlvir:lbin roulrrials. '1'Iro ('nArnnr.+N. Sterols. 1)r. lluNUl.er. Slrrnls nrn a1 class--choleslcrnl is n. slerol. 111any hr.;luonrs u rn slnrnls.

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l7`l CI11.1114~P'1'1{ i.Aln]IJNR .ANIt AIWRn998INR--1116! tinbsetlnonl. In IItis, f4s t.iwn v1ent. along Ihrre wrro c++rlain fnrlhc'r slndi<" \rhiuh Irndrd lo sLo\v u currr.l:diun Lclnrnetu uil(:1-trlln stnokinf; n.ncllnnl; cumcur. I'ht`.u as tiwn fmthe.r dm"Jnprd, :utd in Iltu mvly lifl i<s, 1.6c`mvnere st\cnrnl very sip;nificalic shldics, nnrp frorlicltlarly, or Invo, ttItinh 1 hnvr paa-l-ie.nlnrly ninuliom`il in m1 rrl~url Ihnl1 poinled unf. tlin ulrong ns- wccio-liun in n large f;roup ul' iulliritlwih nlntlind of t.he inritltaro nf lunf; c:turcr lo ciR:ncl ln suiokinR. tiinru Lh:dtime, t.llrre Lns Ileru ugrndnnl nddil.iou of informnlinn 3o.nr Ly y<yu', w6iclt fnrl.Ler vttliilulrv tclcnl teus bnck in Ilm Itvenlirs inul tliirlir.v II. Lct,iuninR..vnspiciun, nLnl. Io.,kcd tu lie quilu..orlnin in Ihavnrly liI'I-it., nod leliirh tn ntc Iuin, l is un rslnblir¢hvtl srienlilir /':Irl lullayt 1.1tn1. Iln1'c, in :I rnusn.l rrlollonvhip hclare~n cign.rettee vrookiu;; :rwl~lnng c:nuxr. 'I'his is fnrtlteriuom buruc out by tlin fact. 16n.1. Ibe inc.ldence of hmg cnncer Mpars u1 vcI,c tkelinitc It,l:ttionsltip fn Ikr attnount of cigarcl.losmnking. Aft. n1.vr.ICa)'. llas Ihern not Lenn a rorrr,lronding diseovr.r.l' of Ilic inqlact of lu6acar on t.lle hetrt2 I)r. '1'ranm. 'I'he evi<lenco is uot. acs slron}q. For instnncc, Iltorn i, nninng t6e large {!rnnps of iliditiclnnlv sl.udied, n Liglter incidunree of cnronirr.y dis`~asas nmong persons \rho smnlce, 16nn nluon~ nonrnnrokrrs t bnt I l:hlnk tre Intow Inurh less nhanl, l h is I Itn n wo hnovv' nhont I he qnos- linn of cerluln typos of canrer, nud p:u'tieldnrly Inng c:lnler nnd lir.- amtl e smoking. . . Nr. Ilfnntc,tt-, ls il I6r usr or nLuw uf trthnrco I llnl I Liv rCrnlnnlenrl>1- I i011 is ainled at ? I)t. Tlaan-. f.r,C me pnt it to N'on tltis tvav. 1Vhen rmc looks :d 16r incidu.uro of ImtF c:lncr.r in relnt.iou In ei};.I,rcl.lc rlnolciuy une c:ut puinl ont, n very definlle rnrrelal.ion, as Lns hrrn poinle<l ouls in sncll studies. For insl.tn<:n, onn of Lho l:ugcslndirssho.ce<l in comnpi.rium vrith tlnnsrrlokers, are.r:t,m ma.lo smokers of riRareltc`s hnve n.pprosintnlelln ninefold lo Irnfold risk of Jovrlnpin +luu canc.`.r, nud hcavy sninl;rn: ul.lrnst:t I ternl y fold tislr Notv, I clo nol, kuotr on the Inlsis uf lhc infornmlion Ihnt tce 61nr tudu.y 6ntv we can say Ihal. n9 ccrtaiin :unoant of snloking in judirious und aLove Ihnllul'tiv.nlnr Invrl it in nLnsu. I t.hink insnfar ns Ihc risk is enucnruc<~, Iherev is n pmrallllisw. On the, ol6er hand, I t:hiulc Lhn persun tvllo tvould like. In Il:we Ilte best cLanco of avoiding t.lte hctlfh Lorards nssocin.lcd tei1.1L suiolcinr would qnit cnwplelclg. lf lle cttnnot. (10 Lhxt, i think lte vronhl rnll ilonn on his sniuking con- sider:.bly. So IIuJ. I do nulw know how in nince frum Ilmt lirea Lhn.l. nnr, ucighlt call Ilcceplc/l nsltge )n tr,lation lo sntolcing Ilntl nl)uso, Imcnasro lilerltlly if one tc:lntrd to fnce, tq/ to tLo fncls, yun \vunld Lavc In s:ty Llmt. zeru is t.he cutoff Ix)int be.ttveen t.h<>se t.tro. 11ir. MACtcsr. '1'6at, is why IAcas inlme,sted in your responcr, lo I6r clnl.irnwu's qn<.sl.ion :It. 16n nulsel wLich I Ihnrlghl. wus very nltprnpri- nln, and IhAt, is if Ihvre is na st-rol>,>~ norrrl:dinn, tc6,y cln ynu seltk fnr jnsl.:u little nolice nn thn pnckugn instencl of ptnhiLi/int; Lhn cnlr nl' tllieP I)r. 'l'1°.Inty. Of cour9e Wl1 ItttFe rr~olnu~rnded wnrnings llssatinletl wil.h ;ldverli,cing as well, so thtrt we do go Ueyond this in terms of can rrrmmIienilu tion, l9t:AltP,r'rr: I.nItP;LINI) ANU AUyP1n'r141NU-InU6 115 I1lr. A1,tauar. l'un tculdd ILnpe t6nt Llle result. of Ihesc cduc~ttiontd olforls tuinf; nnderlnken ill t.he s.cLnols vrunld be alstiuanve front l.nbacro, tcotdd younnts $ I Ir.'I'r.mtr. l'cs. Alr. AlAcacA.. 'I'h<u tllnrnrc:rlly isnnl nuy midtllr.l;touude llr.'I'nntv. 'I'llic iv :dlnul. il. ns nl' lodny; yes, ail 111rt AlncicA.. Non, lll:il. Ir:cds lu knol.hrr qurstiun. \1'c "ut ic vtry tntstli,fnclor,y revpmise fronl Ah. l/isnn. ln uly Lu\vn Iln`re nre 2Ic,IN1U ;crtdu nlnolLUlirs. '1'Lorc nrn perhnps mortv Ilmu ifiINN) in flln Nl;de of (i<.urgin. Mr. llixnn \rns nvl:rd abont. Illix Iho other dny, ~unl Ln disn~kwd il, I Ihna-ld, rcv'y ~npc.t'licia.lly nnl lixldly nnd said, "llrell, Illn( ( is n') lo nnotlnr afenry of tLn Frtlmm.l 17overlnnrnt." No\v, 16e. 1'nldir ILnllh Sr.rcic.e. r:ninn1. t;lkn qttilo. I1Lis varnlicr Rll.ilnde~ il' ynp :ve ounrernrd nhnut Ilte health of nur pruplr. I)1'.'I'r'.tcln. No, \ec<:tuuol. Mr. AI\nsAV. 1Vr. Ln\~i, ~,!ulA nnwe rif±61 c}rotkin{; stnl.isl irs (lrrrlnlcintg novr nhoul.llte atio nn<I uhnso of nlcatlrol. 1)r.'I'v.nnr. 'Phntisri;,ht,sir. R1r. 6f nuanr. lvrot0.d lilte lu e5k yon vvini hnr yonr l)rllarl mrnl hns cnnclnrleil nuy slndics aloug tlcis linr dealing tcilh alcohol. clndirs vnndnrled 1)r.'I'rautr. Yes \eeo hnve Lntl snlne very eslensivrv iu Ihe 1'nlic L 11r:c1llt Scrvire tcith ml+:n'd in akrollnlicnt ;tnd ils elfec.tfi, vc6y peoplt`e clrink ulrnLol:wd vtlil' they drinlc il in exro.Ge. lu / l;t lo hrlp usnulirrcI:unl brllrr Ihc Ilrobloni of ulrolcoli~nl. All'. 111n<'nay. Ilnvr rnn wnclr any mrounucudnlinnr; Ihon-h. ahonl Ih/+murl<ing nfliqaccrnrl6rroAraiutnfndetviising ofliqmn'? 'I'Lero in n very sl r i k i n I; p:na 1lo I, ns l scl 1 t. 1)r.'t'eluy. No, tee lureu nnl ltin4lc1 any 1rt`ntnlnnndnl inn, itu ILic di- mrJinn. 1\soald nnl, say thn.t. ILcrt, is it st.rikin * Irrrnll<lisin between odroliihin;r of vit!:Irttfvs and the a<lrrrfising { oillqnnr in relnt.ion to nln'nr\cs rrn:liu ra~lio,IPICCI~lOn,11111Iti11f111111. AIr. TLwatvv. 1'on cln not sre tln ewur h:tsir. epllenl fin' Ihr nsr uf I l,< I lr. I'r:uur. 1)o \'nn src liqnnr nclcrrl isrd tm Irlrcr!m :nul re~lin? Atr. \Inc'ICAV. I srll il. in 1111 Iheslirlc innl;azinrv. 111.'I'ratnv. l'rs, I dn, tno, hnl, I think Iheree is n ronsidernLle dill'er- ence Ixl\ceen tlw ndrerlicing ot eit,:ucIles nnd liquor. Afr. MArnc n.-. Rull t.ha rstCnt. of nlroLnlisln is assncialyd \tith drink- int_ liqunr, in ilf nnt.? 1)r. I'rmny. O11, vrs. N1r. PL\ruAY. II. isu.mn~' nrLeallh Itrnbl, is it rcnl.? 1)r.'Irna:r. 1'cw,sir; 1 Ilcink it is. (11r. nLtrlc:\Y. Well, in it nntt possiblc Ihnl. ynn are really s\cnllinR :11 flits 6ere nnd iRuorin{r, Iht, drn}un? Ihr.'1't:mn~. Na, sir; 7 du nul.I.Ilildc wLen yuu tltllc ntsmt Ilte Innt*Iti- Inllo of th<'ltr:llth hazortl in smolcing, f dn nol IlLink co. Pfr. Af.<acA.-. Ynn <1o nolt tLink tLe llralth hnzttrd nssorin.tcd \tith thin eonsumpf.ion of liquor npprmlc6ts ilta he,ilLL hnznrd nastainlel] willc smnlcint,+Y 1)r.'I'i:ucr. f clill nols:ly Iktl.l, cil. '1'bc Illint! I snid <rn.516i4 t.Lnt tlln umlCnilndo of tlte 1100111 Itrnhlem :tssul.iadrd .\illc enlnkinf! \\:cs su\h Lhu.l. 1ou e,unld nol, rompnro it. to n ch':rgon. On Il:n ollLrt h:lnd, I Ii t6o1. I1Le ltrnbl<.iu :rssov.iulyd n'itll nlruholisw is a. <rry I:u'Re I c

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ItiS t'IUAllbrfrl: I,nlq:Lwu ANn Au1PllPrININf;--111fc I Ir. llwtN. I tcould sa1' ImHtd 4111 Iho rr,ullN ef nludirti on Ihe Itvy- c.Lnkmry ol',InnlciuR Ilntl Inn~t 6r(- n rundnrlcJ nrer 16e l,e.vl. 1/) yv:ns, bul. I tluu9. Ihinlt I tcneltl vt,l' I6ry nrt bryond reusonnhlo dnubl. Alr. 11nclc.n'. 1Yutdd Iln l;r.nllrwuu yirld fur a puinl.? NI r. FAn Nsl.o:r. 1't., si r. Mr. Alnt:r.nr. Urn.lur, (cnuld You fm-nish ule I'et 1.6e rnnsidtrnliun nl' Iltiti t'ummillett I6r.Imholciurni slnJirn Ilwl urt+Lriuy; cundurlyd notr h.y .)ow I)cpu.rlunnt]? 1)1.'I'tanar. StucI,V, tct n~nldd Le gIntl to sebetil.:t li,tnf Lhc nluJit, Ihntln' btiu cw'ritdout; tcllme,nnd tio furllt. 11fr. ALtclcnv. 'PLnre Wns u disrussinn settrul ttrelts agn nnd many uf ua mrre uture nouemved ubuut Lhc rennun tvhy prufrlo consnutrd 9i/, milliun pul, pi11s Ilnul n~e .vmro c.ourr.rnrd aLnut how to slop tke en.lo . ofl6om. Are 16ere uny Sludies in ilud. nrt~n nn herLiltnntes nnd tnrtp6ria- mine.c@ IIr'Ibatnr. Yrs,sir;thcrearr. Ia:tn'Ll;ivcpen 1.6edeta.ils. Insufnr n, an al udicti tue nnurertled, in nddil.ion to smuc dene Id 1he bral nnd tilnlo levcl, t6r.y tur Largel,y snpporled 16rnn~;l1 Ihe Nniiunal Innlit.ules of I fenll It, xutl I dou't. II2'ipnn lu lutuu 1 hr dtal:nils. Mr. AfnrICnr. I.cnnkl like In 6tne llttllinformat.inn. 1 Ihinlc serernl of us juslm as tvmlcing htw,Vtrs Imcee bcrn olfended by l.he term "vurgrslive ectde.ute." We talktxl eLnull bt)-und n raagoun6le donbt. lfeder Y7rorl;i:t law, i f vnu want to snutl a frllotc Yu ILr. chain l,,ang ynu ItnvelurunvirlLinl. 'I'Lnt.iflnoYheyontldoeltt,LntbrynndTeasnnahln dtmLl, und in Oril Nnils.yuu luttm.ln pr,nre ynnr ra~e Ity Ilu.Inrpeudrr- nnrn nf 16e evidenrn 1YLt11i yon nre sntyinl; iv Illutt if is ILr lmsil iun uf ynm hcpn.rlmrnl is 1 h:d. Llte In'r.pnudrreurt uf I ltc t.vitlonrr. I nl Iv yan Lhnl I Ilr.ly,in :t.n ncsntin- tion bNn'ct'.n cie;turl.lo snmkiof± ned r:tntr.r. 11'nuklnt. 1.11111 , lu-.--- Ilr.'I'we¢,-. Nn; I ttunLl Luvr lo v,tV Lryund a rensun:tbly dnnLl.. Alr. Mnt~n ~t-. l"uu tconld p(ullntlI f;ur? ~ I)r. 'I'l:ee r. I tcnuld go 1 hnl. f:n- insu fa r ns Iwtg rnurrr iv e.onrorurd ; vt.K, sir. Now, Lhere is ¢ pmpondrr:wre in nnnl6o.r aron, fur in~l.tutrr, in rrlnl.inu loc:n~diuan.senlnrtliutnse. nlr. Afnclt,tr. 1 Ihink Ihnt ynn ou;!hl lo ,I:Jo ilIh:d, slrougly ra/hra t.6nu to no-s Ihe lerlu "saf!f(e5tit'e, r.vitlaere," heca.uto pruple frt.1--_- Dr. '1'rmn. R'e Intve sl.nled ore.r Iwd aecr aarnin ILxI. ter, frnl Ikatt t.iRtu-ette smokinf,g is the ptinripal nmtvt of Ieng t.auner in I:he Itnilyd 51ttltw. I don't. lutnw Lotr rourL morr, posilirel you ctnt lte thau that, Nr. Afnokn,y. 1Hr. KtNe:ns el' 'll.xn5. Will Illo geufltuwn yirltl n.l. Ihat pninl? Ai_r. F.11lNFl.e1'. Yt.ti, Sir. Nll. &x:tatw of'Pc>;as. llutlor, if Vun nm sn ItoSil ivo n6oel. 11ud. n'It,y in tlw ttnl'ld turu'I. You un n. ere.ntle lu pru6ibit Y6n f!ratcle;, tutd ,nle uf la6nrvo for rig:uvtln I/nrl,oetti? 'I'hal. is Hto I6inl! I ran'6 tutdrr- ~ alund. 1"onarc,cyier lltnl.it.ttulctSlnnRrr:utrrr:IndlskillinRlnuldt, ~ ttnd I tcuuld {;althor16u1. a I6iop,likt,tlntl uur.kl lolle, prohibilyd. Yrl. O W 6) O co CTI W ynu turo lultncat.tng the Illzpaynrn of 16i, t.uuulty to uutlrrttrilu n. r.tunpotign of Imtlr.tgnndn to I I;V In f!tl.ltuollk. to do t'ulnNn.irlV tt~Lnl1 pnu sx,y nnR61t to be l,rokihilyd in Ihn fir,lietitaurt. I uwctn tltis is Iltink- iuY! Ihltl. 1,jusl ranIl grtM f6ruenrlt uiy Inntt. AlftyLo I ntn owunyalulnt il (9rA11L.tTw t.nlila.tNU ANn Ancl:IPrlhtNa /11fi i Iti!I I)r.'I'rur... 1\'rll, I ILiul: }'nu tcrll rorornirt tlntl t~t~rn if ~'uu Iritd lu l,rultiLilt swultinf; iu Iltis ruwdr.l', )'un ttnuldu'I. Lr t<nrcts,ful, Alr. RuotI5. n~r. Kuat:n.v uf 'I'rsns. I Jun'l I:uutt' al.unl. 16u1. I~rnulJtt'1 af(rra ooll l lnt/. TL'. F.utNnl.:a". I Ihinlc 111111 il :1 tpu`vlinn fnr Ihr psy,6oluRinl; I I lliult I6nl i.:t .nrial sritnrr tlutvl inn. I nw unl. hnl l ing )un dnon. I nm tinre yuu tiul. yuwr nn,tctr fruut Litn. IAdI du pun I,a.cr nt6vr uun iu I hr vurin I nnd Im.hnciulal critmrs Im~.iIe5 I,::ycLulu)±i:;lv? I)r.'I'wmcy. Yt,,sir;rmunv+ItdN'llltllllRl<tMOlI1C5I1111y1MII118911P/Illn pntgrnut urtn_ I h. llwldlt}', mnyht, Vnu rnn novtt~er /Lia l,rltrr Ihuu I. I11. IIuNw,ltr. 1\'e hat'u Iho adcnnlsge, sir, uf 1114' tnnu,rl and nd- titn um m~ Slall' of nnile a Ilnmber (if vnt+inl nnd br6ucittral stieltlislti. NII Ie:VINGIAIS ISIIIIK 111 Illl'. IY`1911'L? I)r. 11uNUlo:r. 'P6vy' :tm.nrl:nnwitd)ral iu 16errlnni,tiit. Ah. FnttNati:v. 'Ihis tcnv un snunlciny! nntl ItraIIL, eul ue w6al In dn nboull il, uflrl' yuu )!~ul. il, unL nu /ht prol,tlpah Ihnl I 16inlt ure Cninl; In int~.rr:t~tt vt,n'tuuld.iuu. Ynnr Ic;p6nlngist Rar,ws ul6orteisr. Ih. and I:ur Ind 6 gne,vinl;', 6ks, hi, Ite:t rl. I)r. llvNUl.leY.'I'ht+uur l,it~ro. of vourrtle inPorutnliun,,ir, Ihult we tlu lteru is ILe rrsnllti frow Iho Ilnlivt bun ue udt'rrliuinl! Ihal. ttrnl. iuln--- Alr. F,tlwwl.an'. .k Lan? 'I'Lvy tcuulddilr1 Ibrm ntlvtrlisr? Ih. I It!NUIe:I. 'I'h:tl i5 ri!xhl. AIr. Ft1tN,t.r.r. (innd.l'r~; I ntn forlltnl. I)r. I IU nnt,r.c. lu 16r,lninri nl' IPf~1 nml in Ilrtl inVnnro ILrrv tces qoilr. au n.plnu~~nl ,Il'ool. 'I'hr inrrr~nsr in saltn hal hrtu oppruxilus/rlt' G Imnrnt Iw-r )'tror in Ihr o)t:tr, Ixorctlinu Iltr bun. 'I'hrrr ttnv,mlv nn inrrrnsr nl' I U., Imrrrut. in t 6r t'ru r n flrr l ln hon. Dlr. F.tnrvnl.isV. 'IItry prnhiLilrtl nll atlcrrli~in", uf rigr:rrrtlrs? I) r. I I tIN ul.r:r. lls, , i r. 11I r. V ~t:nnl.ev. I aw stnr r,nu pon,I of snrinl netl hrhn,inrnl :airn- Iisls rnur,i~Lrrd Ilti, nuJ trhl' Ji,l Ihr~~ rrjrr/.lltiv ne;:t Itrultu.,tl~ IIr.IIt~r+nt,r:c. 1\'o.ditlunl,,ir,rrntvtdrrt6i,tlnrinp;Iltr'Intl}'. 'I'In, rnneelllw. tcn, nu1.:rvLwl In rou~idr.r 16iv. 'I'hih o:enfl ilv jc,b 61r. Ie.tltNrud:y~. '1'Iwl. is tchalI Ihoerld. So Iht,t' lultv etcrr sitlr.rrtl.l6n,nt.in1 autl rronoetic aucl Ispr6ninp,{irnl n,l,vrlsof 16i, Ihiug~ 1"un tnn tnnnidc.ri ur I Itt. 6tm11It. Ih-. 1luNUl,ter. '1'6n1. tcns nll Ihis . t~. Iv purpurltd tu Lv. Alr. 6'tltIa>':r. You h:w~e rnut~iurrtl ute IltalI cntulcingr iN bud fnr pealdt,. 'I'hotr is uo arrautrut elhnnt wLni kills lmople ou Ilightc:t3s. I (. iR ntdnmubilrs. \1'r FpI- IIt:J ont, antl Iltvlr nrr nu tcu:nnriuu}!tnti in Ih:d nuo. 1utt :atj' 16r. propln atruI su,nt:tr;tcLn JIrirr Ilnw. 11't11, 1 I:notc tLry :trro utd. tat11 rnpinrrnvl. I)r.'1'enr.t. 'Pltrrr urr. iu rll'rr/l lika nw ;t lriungtns ie rrlnl inn l o auln- otnLiko urritltvdk nv In tcltrlhtr snttunnr is mu6r 1114, inllhunrr of n. tlrnr er nlrultul or Ihte slmrilir. tII'rrh uf ;tn ilhtrvti. 'I'Inrr :trr lals uf fnclors. Afr. F.tsNqI,ws. LtIl', Pul. IaJnIs on evrt;ylltiug IL:d i'nu oughl. nnt Inl;e Inftn~n yuu ,Iritr, ar pull iL uu Iht dnv6 lit Ikrm uulmmoLilt~, "1)nn1 tlrivo, if s~nl luttrv dum.lhi~ nnd IItiS tnnl thiv. Autl, Ihi:<utdu T.inhiln isn'I. rrry xnfrv if ~ou ,rn crt.\' fn~tf hlruar:r il' %an ptd uu Ih, e'ahr.pnn,lnr,u.l:entc,v'tthul islinhlcI~ilml,lnn..'

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1!I-1 cl(;.k luIrl'tv; I.A1tr:1.f1mO nNl) Aucr:IrrINLNU 1965 :11r. K,tN1uN. 'fko posiliuu uf Iht. Ik`p:lrlmmol, 11r. Itn;srs, is Illolt ILc rt-gulatiuu nf l:dxliur ol'riRurrllrti tiLunl:l bc uudlr 16n IInr.nrduus tinLsl:ulrrs I:.IIxliup; :\t1, 1 hal. is rurrorl. AI r. Ruata<v uf Florida. 'fludi, ozorl ly n'Lnl. I suid. I\II. R.INInN. 'I'Imt,is/'urrccl. Mr. lilKto-:ne ul' hloridn. 1ou tlun'1ngrt`t n'ilJl (lie Tednl'nl 'I'rndl` ('utuolitisiou's propusrd rtllo as fsu' as ils :nlminislrnl.iun q«~oldd Illol bu rul'nrl? I nul nol Iryilll; lu Ind }uu un Illosltnl. I:Iw try'in;; In muLo very clear I lm dtpnrtlne.ul's virtv uu I lli.. llir. KANInN. No, I am no6 prepnred In say, Air. Rqgers, Ilml. Ihri de. Inrllurul disnlrltia~n- ~Ir.ltuarats uf 1'lurida. Suu dnu'L.cant Inrnlue out nnd sny il, 6n1 you tlulrl, tnult il tlnml by FrtlcruI 'll~adr, l~ou tcnnl ilt done by Foutl aud 1)rnti; ril;lll.'d 11ir. IZnN1aN. 'I'6trne is ns I undt`rstnud it, nv I nndcrshlnd Illn Ir<li- luuny I h:ll hns bren givan, bul k an Ihn 5en:dt. sille :1nd in Lhis 1onunil lec un t.heao bills, tllrro srrms to Ix` f.roal qnesl iou as lu the stnpe of Federnl '1'radc lbnuuissiun's nullwrily. I nw uul runlprtcul. lu pnns nn Illnlquasliunl ntr. Iiswvns of Flnridn. I mldcrslnnd. I Irnu'I:ICk yon on Ihnl. I xlso s6:ru Ihe fccling, .yuu Lave jusl mrul iulnvl tcllith nl hrrs shnrt ou tL:11. Nnlc, I unl.irc tll:if in I6e verl'rlllr. i1srJ1' Illrl. say in Illail' dt`.finition, tlm Fe.llcrol 'Prnde prupuard rule, 1hu10 nilnrlhin~ inrludus itll rndio, t.clevisiun rnwmerrink:, nud so forl6, bul "dues tlale includo the l:Jxliqg of pnrks, Luxss, cluiuns, aud ulhrr Ivnlaiut`rs in iellicll ci`,tnrrlles :ure sold lu tLerousuluinl; publir" tiu ILe.y evilkonlly mrlitt umkin;± n1 slill'clrnre brl,ttreu adtcrlisiug Iwd Inlx+lin{;, ;wd yt1 ( Ilu;y still Iry lo Inkc, jnristlitliun ovcr labrlinr. I lu`rennally frll. Ilud. 16e Ftxx1 nud Urng :Atlminlslrnliou, if a llnz- nrduu~ SnLanul-ss :Ac1 is 11n5ved, tcunlll 6r IhP uue lo nrl, nucl I Illink that ILc I'ublir Ilrnllh Nhrt~irotuurrrurvl rcillt thelLrallh uf Ilue Nnlinu md urlRinnlin~~, (he rrpurl, I tcuuld 6nvn Illunl;ld. Lhee linison tcould lLat'n Inco I;unsl rnout!h so 1llnl1 the H'vdrrul 'llvdn could Ltlt'u hvld Iq/ uulil your sur{trsliuus lu :uucnd 16o Ilnrnnlnus tiuhsloucen Arl, 6nd cunln lo (lungrr.s. Itld. IINIj. 6asn1. Ilupltrn/tlt kul. I:un gInd to .rov yuu I:Iko n Ilu~il irn Ilusil iuu ; I Irl] yuu I hiul: il sllnldd bre dnuc II/`.rr, mld I think Ilud1 isni prullrrnclivil.y f1a' Fuudnntl I)rug. aslc a quesliun uf I lr. I lurn. I belie.ve. I Lrnrd ynu Notr, It+l. ulr juslS te,t i fy e:ulie.r. SV'Lul( is }om po~it iun tril ll I hn 1)e-parl.luenlY I/r. 11uaN. I:un cmllluycd in 1.6o rau:rr c.uul.rul proRrouu of the Lirisiun uf ('Lrouir Uiscasrs. 6fr.lfnl:ro:ns of Rlnridn. Of the runrer ruulrnl pru)!ram$ llr.lloeN. Yrs. Alr. 121nnals uf H9uridn. In tthnlt rnparity? I)1'. I IonN. As l'Lirf uf IluI tiprr.inl 1'nsjrrIs tivr.liun. 11Ir. lilxstaw uf Flnridn. Sll4ial 1'r:sjo:-ls? I)I'. I Iu1tN. \'P6, 511'. 11fr. Iisxu:Iw uf Pluridu. Arc Ihunr rulirrll' lu do Willl survt`ys ur whnl ? I)r.Ilmw. No;nolrnlirnly.vilLslu'vr)'s,6otlhr.yllnvr,tudulart;ely r~ills belm.vior,tl 'iroblrlns in ILee conl lu1 af rnnre.r. 11r, litua:lrv uf Flurislo. I Lrllrvr }uu nrr u IlsyrholoRlnl ? f9GA1tIC'1"fl: LAnI:LINU dNll AIIA'I?n'1'ININI:-I!If6 I)r. I IunN. l'rs, sir. Alr. ItlMU:ns ul' hlorido. :\ud 6omInnR hnl'r you Lron tcil6 Iln+ 1 Mp:tN wt`nl 9 I h'. I IunN. .\ liltln orer L yt`nrs. Alr. Ii:x:r:os ol' Flaritkl. 'I'tco yonrs. 5\'crr.you 6ircd fnr 161l prujerl4 I)r. I4ncN. No,sir. 11hl`n I cnnn ~cilh Illr Ihpnrlmlul, my nsslrn- uu`nts tcus In revimc the t`ntin` lirld uf nppliod rtsrvn'1II in tllc lirld nf tnnCt.r ami nd. 3'sm Lrru 6s,f~src? AL'. 16~:I,a~s ~If Rloritln. :\nd Ic6rr1 6:IV/, I)r. IIimN. I hnJ hl`I~n rwph~t~rvl Iry /6r :\Inrrirlm 1'aarrr Vrirly fur Iht` prcrlIling IC~ yt`:Irs. Itlr. Rucr:nnuf Rluridn. For Itiyrnrs? I)r.11nItN. Ycs,sir. Dlr. Hnaens of Floridn. And tc6nl tcna your trnrk cnncernrd with I Iwrn'? I)r. llultN. I vcns for snuu`, }'t`an'ti Ihr' assialnnl dircrlur of slnlixtis'nl rlvt`;u'rh, duriul! a'hirll linlr I rngngld in rpidlmlinlugi:ol slndirs nn 161`, rrlatiuncllip of .InnlI to Pnl'IUllti IIINP:IsPS. III :Hldiliun, I "Sq, fnr n nnnlLlr of ytmrs Ilel'nrr. I left, tlirrrlor nf prof;rnm rrnlunlinu tt~6i1.h vrus /'onrrrnrd 16111 tnrno-<lurinf; nwl lrsliug Ilx rll'1`~~licl`a/vv uf vnriuus rdurntiun:ll :uld olhrr pruRr:lms rmlduc(t`d Ly the Atntrivun ('ll lll'/`.1' SIx'.191 y. Afr. Htx:rux of f%Inridn. For the. ('n.ncrr titxicly 9 1)r. flunN. Ycs,eir. Nir. 1(ar.r:rs uf Flnrid:l. 1 srl. '1'hnuk }'ou vl`I,Y Inrlrh. I:uu Lolsr- ful 16nt Ihc ronuuillrc trlll s/w lit /o I:Iltr ttluu' urlinn Inrv la rlrut Ihis lunllrr ult, 6rr:mcc I 16iu1: Ilsrrc tcus prcripllnus n~'I Inn 111' Fwlcrnl 'I'r:ulr, :Ind I waNld hojn. 16ut the 1h`pnrlmtnltvill slllnd lirw in ils Aoelin;g un jm'isdislion In 16is nmllrr. '1'll:ulk ynn, All'. ('ll:sirul:nl. I\Ir. 1l`.IItN.vl./:v. Dlr. ,('hnirtn:lu, r:ul I nsk nunlhcr qurstion? 'Phe (' I I.t nc m e N. 1'tc, NI r. hn ru~.Ily. Mr. FanN:;I.vr. Uus1ur, ilt sl`t`uls lu wr (6n1yuu Ilrnn"'lll. nn iudirl- ulru6 uf waw minvk`r with :1 rudt+frudnnl.. Yuu snc, us the Ilrn~t~'ni- IIIgnllOllll)' f111t';I1'F fla}'F, I11114~IIIII I' I11`P111111 n t'onF~tnn6lr Iluuh/. 1 5:1)' Ih:ll}vu hroN!(ht rudrfrndunlv, }'nn rnll 16rw rornrrinugtns, rs,nlc+s's of rnnrvr. 'I'6al wrnus Ihiurv 16n1 onnsr rnnr,,r f I h.'I'r:r.ur. l'/`s, sir. A1r. h.tl:NSl.vt. \'ou vny hurulnnrs, air pollulion, tc6irh is InnnIly 1ausnd by '~nllunwhilas, nl. Iravl iu Uci.rod, w61r11 rnn bl` 1mrd almuslt complelrly tcilll liLinRs Are know nbunl notr. \\'r nlso INI1~rv virnu`s:ls rocnnsts ul' canrer, nnll tanrcr rausrs Ilcal h, ntxl Ilml is tc6u1. I ll is t rial is nbntd.. Now 1 rnntrud ILnt you nlsn, frnm ynur Ivslinmuy, 6ncr praJnrrd nsr.l`ssnrirs nfltr Illn facI, th/~ nen'slnqnv~s :nld 16t` Irll~t~hmu Ihat. odt'trl.iso tllis rn.nsrl' of dvnlh. Nmtli1 Ilnnu`I rrrn indirlrJ Ihl~sl nlher ransrs, ouvnuers uf dtnlll, whirll yuu rftnfl hriug 6sGmr ns. I1r.'1I I nw nut suru of Ichal. von w:ml uf lua. N r. FA n N sl.v.r. I 1. is w`.nl i lcl.:tl. 1\' 6nt. I n w run l end i u f; i s 16 n.1.1 kta'tt n.rnol:6rr fNnplc--if Sou hnd n, wnrdrr, rnu wr ptoll.} Inurh wisrd up, is thalI ri;;lll, if you :Iree on (llo side uf Illn nnudt+rcr, :md nliRll]. LtIp. '1'hosn ILinl,m migklhelp. '1'hn doctor says Gi. '1'hcrrc ran Ilc n rausu of r:ulrrr nr n. Ilar(i:ll caucc, aud ynu hnvee gol. 11u-cr, fnur, ur lirr nf /lsrtn. Notc~IsouLhl'LILI,yblwdirlr~l,luu'?

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192 Cllfaltl:I"fbl I.A111]LINII AN'U :1u1'P.It'I'IKINt1-I116!. Nuw, I ruulll IK XcrunR. AIr. Clwmarv uf Floridn. 1Yrll, 1 Rut Ihix ilulrrrssiuu, lun, hut I I hiulc il i.guiug In IulcctnLc(lrl4cn vrr.)'rlrnrlq. \Ir. Il;I.IXNlt~im:N. Nl:ly I an}', r.ir, 16r`y, I I6ink, wollld asurl Ut:lt. rccn ilu Lllo fuotl, ding, nud ruwulclir. lirlrl I6rir nl~la is Lrnad enuu-6 lo clnrr l:lbtding na Il~cdl. lful. I6ts hnct., hy' wld Lu;,rr, IrSititrtl 161d. \Ir. liur.racvof Fluridn. Scrtiun It?? JIr. I?le.lanutan:n. Not mldrr srvliuu 12, bul 5. 'Ihoy lal:r Ilu vitIc it covrrs la6rlily ns e-t.11, Lui ;w n wnllor ul' I:uI Ikcy 6:In uot. Irmn :IClire iu 16is linItl. We 6:nr u uurkiug :Igrrrlue.ul. oitlt Ihr R'1'(' tlhir116n~IKtu crul'Icin;;'vrl'1' ~Illiaarlurily'.I llnrllI:,Inml. Alr. Iiuulac.v of Iourill:t. j)u I luldrrtil:unl 1'tnl Iu,r,lt' Ihal y'nll lr,n't` hcrn wurking Icilh Ihc Frdernl 'I7nJt. und I`rrotl ;uul I)ru,a luul Ilu~y ILUIo- nL'.1'.1.1.1!NItIN11.:N. \1'o.halvoatcorlcin;;arrnmonl.wilI116tw,a.ndnlr. Il;udcin m'6) is Ilerc mwIII rc:ud. In tiptnlc In Ill:d, us lo I6c ouonlinn liulltlfLLe.livily. - Mr. ItINl4112N of Flotitl:c. Ou LILtliuh nntlt~r srrliun 1'S3 !\II'. I.LW:NItUUMN. I11 I III411RIIL I\I I'. Iillllkill. Mr. Rol:r:rs uf Florida. (')qhl y'uu rlv.ur u, nll uu IL:11, 111'. Raukin. I IhuuRI1C Illero o-nv su espreti, lu+ohi6iliuu aRuiu~l. Inbnliug uudtr srrl iun 13. nlr. I?I.I.rzvnuanN. 'l'Imi serlion 13 tlursu'I Kpply In Inbt`liug willlin tdlo meauinh ul' ILo If~uotl :wd llrllg .Arl, Lul 160 ('wwuicviuu, I thillk, 4cnldJ l:4kt1 lho viell tL:lt olller p:uin nl' Illr nol --ill farl sertiun 6 is wLat. ILe.y invukouu cic:u'r/lrs---Irulilrl nlllrlc In I:Ibrliur ;utJ udvtrliw u ns ~n11. iNnw, al`clion 13 :ultl Illu ulhrl' jr.uls Idhinc ~ce Il:lto rnll.d 16t Whrt.Inr~lew wurmhnoul, nrv. vlrrv-illrullS ulldrrtivttl Iu foud:a, dlvp" Irvi~'va,:tnd rnsmrl ir,. !\Ir. Illxrn:ne of Fluridu. 'I'6re uurrurlmcul sIrtrilii-allyr.uy'* ndhrliisiuganJ uut. Inbt.liur. Air. I:1.1.1:Nltuur;N. Pnl4n antl luislrndiug atlcrrlisiNg ol ILn.r hnrdurln. Nl r. Ktuwuti of Flol'idK. 'I'6c11, is rirId. N'hnl i5 yulnolriuiuu un I hal,Alr. Rnul:in'r :111'. 12sNlclx. 7111'. ICuf.r1'sl 16o a~r,rlutnl, t6e trorking :Ipmrmrnl, Illulwr. 6n1n tcurlcrll out4c1111 16r Frtltr:ll 'I'rcJr (.'ulnnlivsiou is lut agraemc.nl, dr,ignecl In rnunliu:du Iltr. tl'urk uf unr I1eo nfcutirti so Ihat. \to dou'tt in olfr<.I sluwlrle unc 1nr.ll olhrr in out' juinl nrlicilicv .Ak legal Jtritiinn uuder IlLC Food, 1)ru~,r, und ('usmelic Arlt way La Iriudiyg upuu Ilu. I~eder:ll Trudo ('uwluir+tiinu undor its kt4c :lud virn C['1'S1L. '1'hu nl;tee.wcul. an L:I.vu workod oldl is 6nsirnlly' Ikal willl rnlyard In regulnt.iou of :IJvrrlitiing, l6o l7edrral 'll'utlr ('nuuuissiuu trlll lalcre lltn liral, uGion, mld 4ri/L ng:nd lu IIILtlino, the Il'uotl aud Ih'llg, .Atl- winisl.rlll inu will lakr, I(lt, IirnL:lcl inn. 'I'6n rensull wn need cnt`6 :lu Imtira:uuliuh is 16:d, qllilt frrqnrnlltt u pic`te uf adtr~rliviug brroulcti :I.srrialt dialtd ,Iilll t rrudnrlnubjctI. In uur jm'iwlitliou, su Ihnl- it, is LILtliun, or a Iricn, uf lubrliu~, euuld :Ilso Ln IrgnrQtd nti m.lctrlivinh untlcr Ihn I"r`Ilrrnl I'radc ('uunuissiun In tcs. 1Cr, haln ~upplrluvnlyd LIIiS orrctwrnl. hv prriudir. wr,Iin;;s Lrl lct`rn u11P ~-lulfv Ia lli>ru=s Illn Iln^tV of arl it'il,- Iliut :n'r nn~lir , vir i'br~lir,n r AfKRIrf1.IN(1loc6 1113 1'll:\1I4:'1"I'19 1+1111;IJNt; ~1N1 nwl I Icuulll _:1, Ihnl Imiuialr.llinu :~11 lem~h Ihnl~lltr piul di~~ru>~~ilc~m. Illn I~nn~l :Illrl I11'll;! . Iln co hrru af ruusiilrrahlt Lruvlil Plr. I:rnncu, ut I~Inri~ln. 11'Il...... l misrtl nll un Ilti~lulmrru urlllrr, mllt.u I \1'htu 1~ rdrl'nl'PI'ndo rumt~ inlu lalnl- 11 \NIUN. I Ilrlitct, Ilurv. rrnn uu unslql so f;u' ns (llo PwNI :Illd Ilru;; .\tlmiui.Irali~di~liou mulrrrlho Ptwtul',Irh~n~,l+ut'I ('Imlw~lir.lAvl. .\5 NII. I:IleuhuCru olrn~ 1 t'Kl luu 6:u; uu jlu n~rr I~rbarru, unlrtiv II Irrnrn tlrur olailuv. 1 ium11 n uumttIdu!+lr, Illrm :Irt ~+"u" °hn LI`I11+\'t III:II (IIt I I:IZIIIIlllliti }ulca unrrw 1 mhl~lin;!' ;\rL runbl br, u pldlttl I n loharrn. AI r. Ituar.ttn ol' 1~ IuriJu. .\nd I:uu uur. 1 n;;l'rc. ~eil.h ynu. NIr. It.:rvrln cilthacanlllttiln)rlntluu IIIIiSlodrjrvll! ~cnoto~ nwsed111u tnrmslmnJt ute vicw tltnL ~inrn IhlI11~cns no ronttmplatinn iu an mnlds atl ilm t.ime Iho II:V.artlnnS Sn6yt~lnt'4, ~luli4~rthillor,1'4 ,f III1A~I~Krl,lllrt(Id~ 4vl~wlu is uu indirnlirm iu Ihe I;; , ll rnctr lollnrru, 1114t.1 ~nul I~Ilri~h~lnl~act~ II or(~uu,,++rrspll,11~aIlp ti nli I LI~ 111t,IP1' Ill:tl:r,'I, tlu~cn IhrgttiJtdiurs I'ur Ihn( rumrnt_+p- VIr. fLoaeu~ nf I~lur Irl. Fuu,cln;l;nlllli ~Ilclmaht(! II~alc4ilKl1n6t"41111 ponl' li:lisnn Ilrulcr. Ilt proLlrln, IhKIl ilt i,s a lahtlin~ prnl,lrm Illal %cr Krc rnunImJ ~cilh, lln Fedr.r:ll 9'rntlr utoccd aLr:td. 1V'llrrr tlicl Snar 1i:tisau hrruk Ilo~nl I lrrn Alr. I:N~:luv. I 'I'~ ]Iillllrlutnftlhr I~tldt'rnll,!Pl~tdrl('nlnluh~iun As mnllrl' nf Inr1, Ihn I L . }It ruulnrl ~ciih Ic: In' Irltp6unv I~rfum Ili. IFtilll`II lllti :111111111'PIIII'l1L // ullrr Ilu tiuc',rnn I~rurrnl':: .\,Ici=nrl ;1. I,rulrnvod rnlrutnl:iu~ ;l:iu~; .I1'.`I o ('atumllltt, i>:=nt11 il+: t'illurl. I brlitIr IhrnI t4ns uut a I~rr:rkJu4rn f ~onununirnlinn. Nlr. R~rmu;S of I~InriJn. ~luylrc I ntivlunltr~lootl. I Illnn~ld yun snitl il. is Illo Ilrlrorluunl'~ frrliug tLal il s6oldtl bc donr Illrou;;6 lt'nnd :tnd Ilrul;and uul I~t~dr`ral'1'rudr. ~Ir. R±Nr.ln. '1'lrt, rrrnumtcudaliou Ilmt, nnl 1)rp:uiulrutl is tnnl:.in'~ l0 16r. l'rrurncv ntt this I iwe is thnt. 16t IrYi~lnl inn, Ihr uo~r Ic(±i~l:rtinn, if ruu"'Iotl, sIlnllld I~I;otlrrr~,~iupIl,tl illf Il~rt Iit Ir ~~~c1~~Pr:~ It~rl'nuuuisli ~ rr.ulnliuu o - 'f11i5 w;w nul.:;lm:llcin~ ~cillt rr~urvl l0 16c. rtdlmnkin;,+nrlivily' nlrru \. mtdtrl.tltt`n I:)~ 16t, Ierclr.lal'I'radc ('nm, ~' :innL nfr. l:uar.It~ of F lurida. A1'ell, t6n I"rtlta~11'I'radr ("ommiaitrlfs prn- ptrsed rnln isLlboliuR,dnn't.vun I6iulc? ,%II'.11.\NKIN. Iv IU ITlY,Ililllt+hllrtlllll;. T NI r. iaK:la;s uf Flurid:t. Uou'1. ~nu 161u1c 16n1 iv 1 rnc? AIr. 1(.~Nr.tN. 1'rn.161t1 isrorrr~1. Nlr. fintr:r.ti of I~lurill:t. 1\'rll, Ihou vnur rit4cs nrv ruuU':n~y' to ILaI trrolrow-`d rulr. lou Ihiuk il, r.llnuld 6t dnnr by 1"nnl auJ I ha_, m I uudrrsland puur Irtil in1nuy'. A1 r. 1:.~~ 1:1 u. I 1' I llr ('nnrrrsn rou,lntlrs_. .- 1111'- Ihua'las of l~lnritlu. \\a:\n li 1.11'tm sayinlhlur4v,llml"1~rv1i4rlu'1 us 1Fhtll cOtl YUrtrtLllMlLl I O 11 lu lrul. il. wrdtr P11o n I irn,rnl 1 g dtliuiltIq 2 I look Ihnl, fn,ut Iltr ul:dr_ luenl uf Ihr Far;, `

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,rQll 1'IUAInCI'I'6: LAIn:LINII ANU .AUA'IiICI'ININU- I/IIIF 9Ilv. ('11.\rllNl.tn;. 1'6te I tcill Iny ulf nl' ILnI. une. II. in n'd1 t,unJ I'ul lur. .\n iuurranir. uliuct:1I, of runr:;r 16uI. inrludcs :1 Int ul' I lliu;,.'. I)r.lluNnl,rn-. Yes,sir. '1'Le Cn.ulenl.w. Nutt' tvLnt. page in Ihnl ulr 16ere. Illal ynu refm'red lu'I 14t IluNUl.wt-. '1'heuun 1. tc;ls rrfrrr'iug lu, vir'? 1Ile UIIAIItn1.tN. 1'ev. I/I. I I1:NIllN:P. It 16 U1111111,!e (1(/. 'I'hn (!nullnlAN. l"uu hn.t~n rcr/;tinly ~ul. Lryued nm uu Llliv trilll :111 Illeell Jinl,rt'awv lu.Itv. Iht IluNUIr:r. 1Ce nre in IILe vlnnka Ilutc, nir, and IlLe.r nre lhe runl- puunds tkul. 16o cnulnlillra idcul ilirll, Ilrll Illry Illnllghl tecrc tulidly r.clnLlialua ns raurar-rnuainR rhtlui/;lls 111111 rnn lie itinlaled frum tlm snlukr_ Nnw in nddil iun, i heru is a»other Lruall r.lusn uf compunulls or r,lnnseq of conlpnunds tcLie6 µrt inlu Illn /'nr;lrlIIlOgtIIII. I11'1I1. TI1e.Se IIIAy Ile irriljulls, 1ulnpululdx of varions l:iuds 16n1 in Ihrlusnlvrs alt+no6 nanrcr ruunluh, bul. Ihl.y tcill prumalc ILe urliuu ol' :1n :tKtut.lhnt. is c;ul/er ra.usiug, olud Illey m:lku it easier nml quirl;rr in smaller doses. Afr.F.\ICUnl,r:r. .\ IiI1loLillikeor~;IlalyN. Dr. I fuNnl.r;r. .A lill ln bil along I hes:lue liur, yrc,sir. I'llu (1u,tutwvN, Nntt' 111e rolnllnucld5 irl ;1, lobnrcu Ie;l/' nti Nurll tcunld uol. In'enenl n. urrrssnr.y Ilnz:ud /n Ltnllh if iltcrrc unld fur Iho mrwner in tcLio:h il tcrre hrin~ laken!' Ilr.lfuNnl.on. Ilurne+I,,yrS 16oerl:liulytcuuldprrsc~nl.fnrlessnf;t h:lz:trd, sir, if il tcere nolt for ILc nlnnnur in tcllirll itt is uvlvl. 'P6o ('u A u:nr.v N. 14'cll, I hiti uId bny Ly IJw n:une of N itnl, hntt' dn yun p rlru ou n re 1 h;d.'4 Ur.lfuNUl1:1. NiCnl. '1'Ln(VLwtnrAN. Ienu Nirol.,lle i,:l Frtnr6man. i)r. IIuNm1n% I Le.lieve he, in Ihe une adLu disvut-rrnll niraline, sir. 1'Im CnnnanlAN. 5'un sty IuUncln i5 n 6r.rb \chir.L Inlut Lnrc Sntoked for over :SINI ye:u:c. '1'llu ylunt tcns Riren 16r generir, ua.ant+ nlcul.iunufler )r:m Nic.A, Trlvlrll AmlrISsadnr la ISIrIuKal, vv'ho i« 1500 puL- Tir.ly exlolled tLe virlur -;uul 16is is Ilro 5loleulrut that ranwhl, we--- Lh;tt /lle virl rne of lu6elr,n ns n. r-urnlicr. urrul," _11'll.d. Ilid 1.6ry rnle? lh. 11aNUl.l:c Oh, lullerculnsis, lnls of Iliings I r.un even relmmm6rr in n1y ellild6uu<I Inbarcu was luuknd u Inn :I.:t very good lwulliro ful buils. '1'llisiaonrnfl,lleoldllomqrrmrt~ie'l hfr. ltlN:racI uf'I'e.as. 11'ould l,he f,m.ul lenlml yield? Tlto (111Anenr,tN. I f ynn rnn ronlrihulr. lu 16iti I.cnldd Ile f!lad ta Nfr. Roaraw nf 'Perus. I'hc_y nsed lubnnvu ,moke in nly youl.lt fnr the enl'ouIle. II rmrd it.. ] guL over il.. 11r. IIIrNnl.r:r. 1'Llrt. hato LcIVl ILrun~6iml llistoly In:uly nmtliciunl ushv of IuL;;rro ur lul/urrn-Smulciu~~ llrndurl~ o.clullltl ur rlainmd, bnl. I clndt lcuum uf Int3 16:11. 6ucr vlu't'iroJ in lu1nlrrn I ilut,. I'lln ('n,vnIn1AN. Well, I Ihiul< I tcill nulIry In rclld the r111n~ar1cr5 .t'llirlt tntv lrit-eu ;IS tlle tilrurlln'e of slnnkc nn Ila,rn i6 Lltllt yun ]'v.frr tu. Pa-rn .1 ronlpuunll iti a Iill.ln bil. bry:lwl wy aLilily In prunoanre, t;u I will just let Illat, iusoLu :IS I6ic rlrord is con/rrne/l, be refr.rred to ns tinrh. Rut il. dues rrv5rnl. In mr a rel;t' inlrrnsfinl± Ilicl.me nf Ilutt' In lukn s prurlurt.,vnr~; :Iti Ihi,v, lrilh Illr ruuqrnuruls in il tce hnve uirntionrJ, aml 1lu uirlhntl af ilz n~r. Ilrrr~'IiL; ++hal 6n,L~ h:.:n rl:"'rill I-rl: I.AnP:1.mU A~U AUC4:ITrININU 1905 Lrm nc s1 h:lz:u'd lo Ihl 6rn116 ::f Illo intlicidn:ll, nl:d p:lrlienl:n'ly in rr.frrrnrn Iu ils rtLll.iousllip Iu rnul'rr nf I Ile Innl;. It\Ilnl.lo Ptrsunally tll:lnk ~~un, Ih ''.crrv,;md )'unrnvsori:llrshere. for yorn prrsrnhtfiun :tnd yonr fwIhlr rsplanaliou of Ihe rrPort., :nul %vllalyuu,iurrrrly' nnd 6oucvlly bllim~e Illatt is iucnlnIl tt'illl Ihiw very dillinnllpruhlrm. 1Pe re;gret. Ihal. tcn Iletre kept ynu luul;er 16nn tee sho1J/1. I dnn't. Icnuw Lotc IonF IIliS 6rminx i5 guinf; Io go un, bul. I6ate umsurwl orl1vaul+ \v6u is iulcrrslyd, p;ulicuklrly Lhn wenlberv nf Ihe ruunuil l rl. tl6n rrcul{niae Lllis os :t cer}~ >;1'e:d, pru6lew-il- in n prnldew fur Itll uf ui, nnll tve tt~lIruulo Ihc 1'nll disrnssiuu uml Ihr tirtcc fruul tclul Inccr tiaulv1+/.6nt. nti1;61o r.uul rih111e I o il.. 1"unr rv.pnttt of 1961, nf tnlu'~, is rclml: kiokrcl tLiv n'Itole I llinx olY, uud I tcoldd xnsprct. tLalI if you Ilad Iiee.u in flte pllsition to roalce yum rrrulrune.luLl.l iuns bnyuud Illtt rrporl. tl. the t.inte, yoa ancl I rnnferred in uly ulliro just. prior lo Lhe Tede.rtll 'llucll /'ununicsiutl's /umomtre- Ineni. ul' its proposal, I6:11I tce mighl Lecn Il:ld Itu easier t.iulo resulvinf; 1.6is I Lil~zr. Nutt~ tcn Lat-r. l;ul. Illr li'wlrrnl 'I'ladn ('nlnlniStiiun prulrlrlu tt'illl it, :uvl vv~e L:n'crrr,lt'uur prublrln. 'I'Inrr ina lill le ovrl'I;tpping prublem In+re 16:1.1 olu[I11l lo Ile, rrsnlcr/l uud I hope. tce rnn rrsolt-c. il. I Iln ftdly rerol:uize Ihl.re iv n relpunaibilil y frnul y'our z;lantlpoin/ uf Ihl. 1'nLlir. llvaltll Srrcire. 1 a.lsu rrA'.u;cuiae Ihr rrcpnuSiLililv of Ihe Frllernl'I'I:ule (:onuuissinn as itI:ult ildo Ihicdeo.l rntllrrrnrl,r. 'I'6/}' Ilntrhren tilullyiugil n long t ilne l uo, nwl \crrr jus6 nbun7, l o wu kl n pil/6 u t. I hiv prublrln tcheu I hn tehule I Iliughrnlcr Itull tcr. Iln tcrlrouu+ 16: t'iro, nf rnm~ dvp:u'Iwrltl.:ls t~l'll :IS nlhors reltn;u'r iull1'rvlod in ilLwl if i/ docololls Ihnt tce nerJ fnrl.lur:IJviree nnd rouuuI frum vou, \cr tcill rvrl:tinly' rvlll uu yun 'I'luluk t'nn nvrttunrl1 fur pour I/tilimmle nnd I'ur yunr prese.nfalinn luro. In/lu.v. Ilr. TI:nltr. '1'h:ullc Vntl, Alr. ('hnirlu:ln. Itly uvslllialos onJ I ctr- In.inly npllrt/'ialo Ihl. iuIvrrst tcllir.ll Ille ruuunillro 6:ts lakrll :tnd Ilrn t.lloronghuesv 1ei16 n-Ilir.ll yan Imnre gonve inln Ille subjrol, :Iwt tca :Iro all Ilf. Ilny lilnn nlwn,l's arltiloble Il\ he of ttny nwsisl;ture \cc nntc, cir 111r (',trvrr.lt. Alr. (111:I,irm;ln, lvill pou virld for jnsl. a. ~hlrulrul ? 'I'lln Cu a ucnl A rv. 1'r.. nfr. ('Arrrlat. 'IYto Stu~eon f;rner»I L:IS rlrlaiuly Lecn qnile rlnlpuent. in Lis etl'orls I 66inlc tuday, and ull.llouy,' I hncn Ilinarrmd \cil6 Lim ult LLn c:tuxal rr.InliousLill of snud<inr lo luut; raurrr, 1 Iltiuk 11110 1. tee are in :11!reelue.nlt nu OIHe ILint[, Illld Ihlll in nH On ulll In/nlll:lin llnl,y- fricndufwines:iid:SluokiuRlS:tlil.lk+6il.pleasnronolnc. 'I'h:lldcyon, A1r. 'I'hr('iLtlllM.tN. 'I'lllllllc rl/n ccrt mu~ h. I Ilnd 6upl:I Il.;nl. In tinulr.:,f 1Lr~1 Id6er tci/nrsnr. l:rrr. I II:1o1 :I,::viuurd Lhrrrv n.rn Wnnt td6a are in I ltr ronnuillrr ru/ml Imdar tcliu :lrr+ pruL:lbly frnm cml.c;l' I,Itcn. In tintr uf Ihv lilnc, nnltvv vouuv nf ynu llnvcp ctry m6url.:anlculrnlti to pre5e.nt., tee a.re simply f:oinh to Iutce In l,+o over unlil nesl.'Puesdny Ia 1.6rrn:ln7nue a'Ln r:ulnoL rowe.hn.rk nn'I'uevdny?( I lislIl.aviun nll' 1 he rtv+ord.) 'I'he (Annutnl,\N. ('onw :n`unnd, Ilr lAtlrynlpln. l"nn h:lcr he:n'/1 ILr qn:~linm, nntl tvul Inl+ltc tchnlj iw in ILr IninJu uf n I,d nl' Ihr~r.

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Itil1'11;;111W1"I'i; LAIIhILINI{ :\NII :\DYlarl'151N(;-IOIi:, 11r. I?LLi;NUnoo:N. 11'e :Iro working, sir, nu Itir ftulltd.iun. 1Vr, of cuurtir, nnw 6ttve I-lle. Clcan Air Act ilianks to this r,onunillrr in IInrt. 1\lr. Iv.tlcNa.l<r. Is Iho.rr nuy'Ihiu;; wc rnn do on nit pulhll.inn? Ilow :Iboul nulolnnbiles'1 ~ \Ir. I,:Ll.hur.our;N. "I'hrrn is uow-_hc:vin"s:lrn mlderwny mrw in ILe tienulr,uuti,;/1rt,IhnAlnsl<ir.bill,nnl6:tl.suhjrrl_ l/llinlc--Ia.ulpr/dJ;v Soro-Ilurni.vnrnrrr5lx,nrlin;{Iulllxnlliul,riu IIIr Ifnosr Alr. KtltunLin% ll:lcu con :tll Rrolt a rr.l/ortI un I hat or Ilnve. yoo noulo slulIinsunitt n1 r A. LLF:NnIN! V N. I)O yllll II ICILI I LI II` 111I I? Aft. Ik`enNnl.l:r. I nm Irying lu 6ulp. I lun trying to slluup oul. I l isrn su. 11fr. ]:LId]NIIIHII:N. '191o Sorrehtry llnnle a rcport to (7rrngress ill 1)e.- ccnlLer uf 1964 iill response to It slnlnlory ml,ndeute ou t.he subjeet of omisnions flom motxn velLirlo nsLanst. Alt.Ku(NSl.er. {Vnrniltrntrrr,ouuurndniinn5? 11fr. 1?I.I.I:Nnuu1.:N. Yts. I'ltorn wcre cunclnsiuus, lln luts odso re- purlrll nn S.:i116. 11l r. Iv.t n NSl.ev-. i\f t' Ilie.nd I)r. Ir~ollrr :wd 1 sr rve on tl lo (:ovrrnor's cmmuit.lce nn in[lonwbilo safet.y in Kentalrlry, Imrl we wnto very mnell xl;ilo-llel :Ibont 1.6at.. 1AIr. T?LLr;NUnwsN. Inuidonlnlly,il wn5/1 fornletmrntherufl.lliscum- millor, Alr. Srh(ult, n. llu wnv exlrvnlely iulrrr,vlrvl ill t7tn snbjecl. anil reslwusiblo for ILe in::rrlion ill Illo ('lean Air Aot of Isingunko ou tLat soLjro.i, I 6elir,tc. Alr. fv u:N.w,e.r. 'I'hn ucarcslI r/ut Itiyutnlbtr, I.Acre tlrr. ati,tl0o I/ro1Ju Icillwl 6r nulnuwllilts or ulurr, nnd rnly I.rnllir uutiiotet'taugttt- nm therr, nnru 35 iujurirs fur rvrey I killnl. Om r.nnuuill/'o 6elievef,; 16NInlln- muhilrs lutt uul, desit;ued to safr,ty slnwl:u'ds, hut it. coldd on.sily hn duur. I lncu \un qll lluue tiomo work on Ihis,or havr 1'u4 snuu+ rec.otnntencLt- I iunn fur:.nuc, IaLcling S Al r. b:1.1.r.:vw,mEN. Or. Trr1;Y, do yon wisll l o lutswel tllol.4 1)r.'I'raun~. l'crla.inly Lllrongh our IliviSiou of Acciduul.l'reventinu ill I he I'ullli,; Ilrallh tie.rvice trr lw,vo bcrn nr.live ill Lllis field as ivall :Iti Ihr Inrceulion ol' houacllnld nrcitlrnk nnd nl}hor nnc.idoul.ltl typns ul' iujwir,ti or dra.t6. 11e have carried on :Ir,l.ive r:utufloigns over Illu ycars ill rrrt:liu resper,ty joild.ly wil.lt 1-hc, Anlericnn Afcdinal Asvocin.- I iun :Iml l ltr N:d iounl Sufot;Y llunncil in rr.lnl.inn ln sent belts. \Ce, lulro bcr.n working n'ith tho imlli5lr.y in uther fwpects willl rr(;un3 to (Ilo luulllelus of Ihr, typas nf injnries tLnt, oceur anri how clesign mirht provenl.lhrul. At ILe prrseul. I.inlc,, unn of ihn iltiu)s Illalmr Ilro doing is muviut,g intu :ul nro:l ttLe.m tel, lo,d: ul. Iho probirtn nf Irn(lie safety, ns fnt as 16e FelPlill (iU\'111i1111'llt IS co114e1liell, in nhuul. Ilvice pnrts. One part. 6as to du tvilh tho Irlauuing nnd design of roods in rolld.ion to sofel:y. Anullle.r hoti lu du tvll II tiLluuing nutl Ilesihu ol' .ud+rolobilrs mld vrln- elr;, in tLn 1e.rms of Ilte Nu.l'evt vrlliclu Ihad. tcnnld lie ar,c.r-ploble to tho pnblir. 'I6n 16ird 16iu1; is tile Itmuan faclur. I Iltiuk the ntrn In tshir.L wu hm'o bren umst tlerrlir.l. in ILn.Ir rr,cpen/q is i.lml. i6eto hns not hrcn rumit;h resenrcll. Wo lalow Ih:d, il" pcoplr. ;uo inrLriated :lnd 16ey :IllriuId, to drivo ;t e:lr Ihnl. Iltoir rLnn:r= of 6uclug nn :trc.idrnlis mncL roalrr, nud ive. lalnw Ihnt rrrlain Illhor Ilinrn-;ati nud r'WAIiP:I"I'I'1 LAIIP:LINI: AN6 APAl?Irl'ININII 1i1145 18;1 liuon lllakt~ :IIItO1r1oIt11N o1101':itltltt 11 6nr:u'd. AI Ihte c:lotr linle lltrrr' nro wuny' 1 hinrsI h:ll trn tlo nul. rmJrl~lnn/l. Onr. of Ihr IllinRs I11u1 we hnt'o, donr uyrr I6e past ruoldv Of )'c:ur Lo. Ixrn In dr.crlnl/ x dricin~ nitnalaltn~ wLit6 iv goiug In 6e. ncnil- Itble crry xuun I'or sludirs uf rlarl.ionr,' of inJicidoals to driving, cir- rmusl:lmr4 r silunlioms, sull mldrr pnrliruInr rirctnus;laurrv. A1'c hart. uol II:Ir1 I Itr. ulunty sn/ I Irrlxouurl lo Inovr.:lluuR nv foti6 n.+ tcould likl in 16ia dirr,linu. '. Ou 16n u/ln~r Iland, I Illinlc ter Lnre madc sonte, si~+.nilictud, clr 1~ bh. IvImMa.lsv. 'I'luulk you. :\rre ynu askinl; for luoro nluury (or l.ltiv? 'I Acill 1 r.y null lobby. 1)r.'I'/'nucv. I Illink thnt. \cc. Imv'r rnolll;lL ill oul bodge6 r(rplea this yr:u, 111r. Ihn~nslr:Y, to nllow ns lo nlov(. ahrtQ yvell wdlt l.6n drivinl; sunnllda, its dm~rlolnurnt, nnd uar other tlrcident. pl.n'onl.inn pru(;taws. . 111r. I~.tltNVt.ln. I:~lul ~rvc )ou I,unr rluev. li 5, News tl. I'l'orld liollurt Irlls aboul. harc dan{!rruus Lilrs lu'e Iuul huw haQly latbulyd Iltt:Y :rrr Ihi~l; wrrk. I f vuu lutvr I.teu rylindrrs in yonr bralus, yun Lo.vn o big luor.rin of snlely, nnd it. tosls cery liltdt+lu mld t61tL rsl.lu rylindrr. Ihu :Aolerir:lu rnr In15 it. I llocc 1:Ikrn r:u'g ull to Ihc lrklll Ilwils nrn r.cpresv.cuys, up ill l6c Ivl;nl linlit, nrld shtpped rig6t, slrui--6t uilh Jislt br;lkes. I tcould uut clnre tln lllis o'illl any otlltr I:ind of br:d<r+. You lulnw nhold, srnt. bolls aud Iln' dnnmt' of Iho lu,rrerl rtnuin{; unll il' Illvrn is nut sulut't6iup; tu nlolr it. Yom mIsl rrnlizo Il,:lt Iltrl'r. ore Illrrn liolrv ns tnoluy po,qJr rml,lupwl ill nrdonlohilt n'.wulLlv ill ul}' rlisl rirl. 16on 16rrr :n'r. rig:l rol l r prolllr. RtdIhil, oul, i, na luugit on(-. 'IIlrso nra Ilrollln of an) nt;c. We know tcll:ll t:lusrs aldomq6ilre drallls. 1`'e- luny ool lulotr Ilto drtails. 1Cq Icuotv wlou Illrre is'on :IUInmullilr, ncridenl. 'I'Irr.n+ iti uo aritn- nlenl.. '1'6eiu :ure unl lo nlcn ,:lyiur I Ilrvo guys wt'ro nal Ilit ur Itillwl hy an :wlowobila 1)un uf Iht lirslIllinps tcn~ lu rrtt thn mr:llhn.,k ,dt' I6e frnnll uf n('o11i11:1,'. 'Ihr,Ilirl of pulire Iloll sllid I6rrr hnd Lrou l/ruldn Im'n 11) Ilicrrv. \Cn gt,lIlleln ill Ilolirc, rrnhrrv. We roldtl nnl 1 hc polire Io wr,u tivnl In11~. '1llis wns iu I!114 luld 1!m1. I t tcu, a luug I iwc ago. I hnco 6rtn hill in~,~:d I ltis ouc I'or u lonl'; Iime. Nutr, Irlmn es'/lr,m one ntoro Ihiur. I lalotc ilt is lalo. I hn.ve woudemd il' .Yoa Il:lve rrn.lly I;ut. Illn uwinl naml belravior:tl scienccs, onouRh opiniuu from Ihcut as to Ilte rllit..~ that. yuur pnqpnt:lls will 6ut'c. Now, Ilcis ntny uol. M, 1.rne, bul1 om Inld tr6rn 1Sromn Seltzer Ilntuu 161 tc:u~nil,R Inbrh:lntl rhauy±II ILr forumin, IIlr.1' said, "Iwpruved Ln'mldn;':1n:1 Ilw.u Ihowarnint; soyn: rnnli,I u. I<rrIr nll ulydi~'iur.. u:U ,d Ih, rr:uh uf vItll,lnu. 4dlnv dn dirorlinus. Nut. I'ur uua Ly rllildrru. 1mtuull pllc~iriau m:d diurmdiuuo if Iln- n,nnl nrn'nu>t np:uVlonm a. nlaiu rnuh nrrnr ur Itr Iht nrrzrurr nf Iddw9 diutvl+,, ovrvcuir, duua0.r mn)' r:u:sr. Iti,lnrp dnwagr or If s)'mPlumn nvpllrvI tlinrnnlluw nrko fnr mor, 111211, 11) duys. Aty fl'iund I)h'. Iwller trns It tvilue,s for Ihrwt InuplrI uuJ hr ,nid a. w:ur lnlcr 16rir Fdnrk hnd clouhlrtl ill r;llnl, aud Lllcir snlrs ternl tcnY lyl tcltrn ILry ndutdrll lll( tiv prul,mul5. I, thl`relln~'Irall1inllull? 11r,\':,111'P111/911IIP1'UI1~I)tnstllia su~, .'~tnur<6nplun rclLrn cnn tcurn I,rol,lr?

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18(i flcAhbrl'rk I.nnb:1.INI; .C]ll Aucb:IrrIRINf:--l9fir I)r. 'Ibams. I mm 11nl ncqaninllJ llil6 Illis tru'I irnlnt' o.ircumslnurn. AIr. I:;lukiu I'rwu tlle. Ruud nml Ihn;! Allutinistradion is Ilere. Af r. F.t n N a a;r. ls l llere u.ny bolly ohu cu n hel p me un IL ia? All'. ItANnIN I Il(llll/t I:II//l1',JII'. NII', Ie.VtNNI,nY. I 111111(OIIII! Ip llllt (tlnt in fls R)l P.%Illlllt, if 1(nll. Ah'. Nnululs of '1'cXas. 1'hc bnll Ic of Itromo ticltzer will 6c Ircrivrd as nn c.x6ibil. Afr. FnnNSl.r.r. One nlore tLinl,, l)orlor. T6is to n socinl srir.ulistt nu(I a lnymuo, Iherc+ aro slnue llroplll wlln 111ink tvhrll thc eir:u~cllee people:;:.y I.6c.y u'ill qnit n(Iverliaint,r if Illry Im.ve In give n tcrnniug t.6nf it, is n Lllreut, 6n1. I here is suwe t hnugid. Olnlnmyb~-I nssnme I Imtyou think it. lrill cut stles becuusc yuu n-aull lo rut ronswupt,ion. Now, if tLr,ir advertisinR tciLh tl. lanrning cnls sales, they ntiKlli. nc.tlrllly (plit, iu tchich case lve have gnined nothing, nnd thus no nd- verl.isiug, will rehlcn Iale Inln.l cunsuluptiun. Ilnve you Rut slndies ou this end upinious fruul trained nlwt nc to .chnlrlirc,ll t6is.rill Imve'? Dr. Trlnlr. I don't, knolr Lutr mn('h inl'nrmnl~ion. llr. 11oru. l)r. I luax. 1 Lhink t6ia is nll stlecnlat inll ;IS of this I ime. D1 r. li en Nel.er. i\Lsul ld ely. llr 11nnN lAll. tee nre lcnlchiug lcilh LrrnlintereA nhnt is hnt/- pcuinl,g in IPlnrlllnd nhelv the In'ulliLilinn nf odretiisiek lrill go into (dl'ecL sL(n't.ly. Afr. Fnlonnl.l:r. :\ren'Ith(se ILing, Ihnt cuuld 6e sltldied by Ilte 6e. hat-lorlll nnd slWial scimlros? Iu nlher wnrds, we hnve n1 progrun tciLL(rut nny-_.I :uu brl,.inning to gcl. Illis ille.n--lre 1lnvehY, any uIrn- lili('.infurueltluuuuwLntelfec,tonrrrcuuuulmJtqiunslluve. Ak'elnlvc n luli nf Rmu(1 dWors, gun(I m'ioutims in Iheir Iic.Ids. 'Pke.y lalmr tcitnt. t6ey nro tulkinrr :dluut. Il.ud whnl. it dnrv to you lvhen Lhey smnko nnd lvhat il, dues lo nliae nnQ ull f6n5e Illinl9+. 1Sul leknt lcill Nis prnt!rlnn du'? \Vill it cunrw nlnlv rtil;lu'etle.v in bn fon.snlmYl? Will it, give Iku c.uwpaulies n'h'>3L willion 1>,m:ulr:t, bcetln:r I lelshr.y dtu.su't n(Ivrrliso, Volkswu~±rn penelrulyd nnr nl:u'kr6 dre 11y tcillt nu awfully funny nllintnohllo trltll ue ntlrrrtisin;!'. Nulr ILey hu,vre very funny adver- litiiel;forximulyautnulnbile tmlll6atsrrwstommlcfinr. I uln ~Ind yun arr.llere au(~ 1 Itnl 4.Ind Y'nn ure I,m11,iuR slu'veys. :\nolller one of tltr tirsl. IllinRs 1 dill nnu r/I, n Ilup/r surrey n6rn I.w:ls rlenlyd, Ilnd I Ilave. ouc ul, lenst rvcry Yr.n]' une you mlRllt. be inlercntrll iu, un nlenlnl Ile:IllL. It, is:l yre.li V{Cou(l one. You ctln t;rt. it, t.kruut;lL n. libr;u'y lulnl, fronl Illo. Louisvllle Ihre 1'u'blia Liln:u'y. I sut. nt Lonle in my c.lwir, lmvint,+ ou one cide the Itoper Slnveys, ou Ilw olkm vide IIw sw'veys tknt uur pmiy' hnd n»)de. Out' pln'ly 6as had nm'v/,ys every ye:u since 1RI2, ulore 16:u1 one.. We have Imd Ifw'riv, tve have Lnd Ruller, Qouyle, prnfea.ans tit Ihe Unive.rnity nf Loaisrllle, you nawe Ihem, lee huve gol. Lhenl. In flu.t Ihe snrvoy I .Studie,(I tllre ulllcr dlyy 1(H)ks like it i+,~uiut;~ in cloar up thn I/roLlrnl nf sn6onl tnxes. Ho tt'r. Lrlir,ve in lhruy lcr know olhont tllnnl, We live lrilll lllem. Was tllis lo liud ontt lrhatell'a-i peuple,'s netinns Irod, was 16e1r enyl-hing in tLere In Gnd unl: tcllnt elfrcl t his kllwl trmdd Lnve, t.6etkrr it tr l ottkl canse sulrs tn go nl), delrner videw'nys, tnld trh/d, e.lrrcl. Inll- t.in~ lcnrninfis in :ulverl Ising would hnve? 1)r. Ilunrr. Sir, I anl glad yun I1ti1:rJ Ihis brolulse ILerc is built inlo Ill/.a. slu(li(s lul alll'lntd to littil nlll lu~ I u Icil ri'r~lnlllyrnA h inr In/"1119 C'n7An1:1°rh: 1AIniIJNlI .ANU N1C1'ln'1'IhINU Iill;: Iti% In Iwoldl, o'llp /6r.Y' sluuke, 1c6nL wirlli. 6aIIlun if coriuuti kiuJ:+ of relnrdl:tl nrliun tvrre lukru ns lcrll n,v Inldrr ttll:d runllil inn~ t kcy tcunlll ttu Ilifst6aid aIITr(ils n'11r16t~r ul! 11 d' IIIryIlalrcpC~11M`'(henltll aknzanls tuf sl l lOk I l lg. 11'e hnve nlillions nf proplrn in ILis conntry .vkn soy Lkry tnti enn- vinred Ilr,ll. ~luukiut± is tt. srrlnun Ilrallll Iln'r.lu'd, LotIiIry rvml.iuur to slunke, nnd why is I Ilin su'4 AnJ 16e1r nree at mmmbrr of di/frrrnl t'cn- s(ms end a. nmul)cr nf dill'rrrldl pnlte.rns. Irur M)mr. (If Illrve, tee ferl ILwrn ,trr, IhiuRs lhnl. tre Imgld In beo ablle to llo. Tor nllers, l.r 6el ilC is up lu thr" individwll In Innkr.:nl inforrrled choire nnd tle frl1 16;d. lcarniu(n; can Itelp Ilu~m uulke t hnl. chuice. Alr. finnNSl4:v. F1'llnl. is ynur prnfc5siminl opiniun, lrlstd on ynur stnltics if you Lnve llune nny? I )r.lluuN. AVilll rt'.gnrd ln ndvrrtisint;? Atr. F.tlvasla~n-. Ilun't 1!ivn un :tnslccr unlrss you Ilrr renJy. Is ILw.ro n SvJ/IlI lIl(', UIIIIIII/ll I141I/ \CI1:II etl'rclI ln+ lcnrnin~,~ on IL(Inl~rls tt'ill Ilnlre on ikc ~n1rs of ci;,:u'rllrs, nnd ll~ill ilslnfl v6il(I,rn or Icill it. enrunrl{;e cllildrrn, Ixrnusrof llle. c6nllrn{;/.'t l)r. III:nN. In nty ulcn 7nd/~nwul, 4ir, lltr. tetlrning lltlHI tcill hnte Lhn ctl'erb of rrdurinR sWOking. 'I'llrrc is alrrndy undrncay u rrdp- tinn of smnkiuI and, in nly n mliun,an inrronse in Illo rxleul ln lchivh pvuplo lue suspicious of tllc ~lnznrds of =nloking. Itlut one of tlle rn- Ilnmtlizai.i<me oue uf Ilm. IMliefs tllnt is stated trlten you nsk Iwuplee wlnIhe.r or n(d. 16r} ILink snu/kinR is Ilnriuftll, is 16is, "lltlt nf rnmsa i f it( tlere ronlly LntInful 16ry tvuu4l du snlnrl6inl; nLoldd il° or "The. (lnvcrnlurld.lculd(Idnvnlnrl6iut±u6nul il." '191o fact. Illnlt the pt'nducl. is frrrly sold t1'Itllfllllall)' reCll'Iellellt, tcitllnut, nny inhibit.ians, aiUn,ut nny slnlvunntt nf tc:u'ninl!, is Inkrn ns evidrnre 61mt Ill'Ip iw n perfel'Lly snfe 11n(ILnrwless lp'/)dnrl. I 16ink the presenrn of n tcnruing labol tvill I'embve this p:u'Licnlttr n6s(ncln tlmtm:uly prnple lind ln arcnldiul! the fnrt thnt c.it;nrelle slnukinR is in fnrt lt heall.k llaznrd. All'. Ie.111NN1Rl'. I)(t y(nl lnlve 11 l;nrsR ns to how fttst this \Clnilll Ile nble Iu tr(laca Illesales? Ih'.lll)rn. No,sir;1}nve.unt. . . Alr. I~ nnNw.cr. \l'hnti.v yuur npieinu ns lu uiiug:I. ltarulnr ul nd- vc'rl isink, ls6e samo as nn I he ol.ller4 I)I'. IInnN. I tLink this Icuuld Ln.ve n nlorce rapid rll'rrl.. In nllver- tisiut! y'ou nre renclling nnt unly Illr, individuul tcllo ustw cignrnlle", Lntyou nl'e nl.vo t'eucllin{± 16e polenlinl uscr of ciR:u'etl(u:. A cllild d(m.s un(. hnve n pucknt;e of ciRnrel les nnlcss Le gnes outd n.uQ bnys oue. An individunl \Clll) Is ('OIlsl(lel'lll(( the IIPe l)f clgnl'eIIeV, FIIPII IIS ILo It-, 111-,or I I-yenr-old rllild, seen edtdlssmnking anll nsls this as Ike bniic tn dreidr. "( ier, lmly'Le 1 uuf;6l.la Lc like tllese Frotvnup?," I clmm he od- nlirrs and lukrv np :+nlokiu~ lliw-nlf. 'CIIiS cllikl i~ Illc nnc lcllo dorv; nnl( grt.lhe tvnrninR nn Ihc lalml brrnusc he durxn'1l hnvt. I l)e. pnrknt.r of vigurrl l(~, 6ab llc does see 16e n(lvertising. Mr. RnnNnlasr. 'l'6ese opiniunn yon nre l;icing me, nre they tlle re- snllL nf sl.udies cnulpnrnlJe to Illis e.nnnnit tee'x sl.udirc t llnt. I hese wnrn- iugw nre gnink to c.ntt c6iklren's sulnkinl,,yLis advc.rlisinf; is going Io rul I he snloknlg?

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II)fi rlrAltl7r~rb: LnRI:IaNtl ANU Aln'P:n'rIRINr-106R .. 1It1AlIP'I"I'P: LAnb:IJNI; :\NP AnCI:It1'Iti1N1; ----I!If;i 11)l All'. Is1.1.r:Nnnr.1:N. I aul noll vm'r lu,n' Ihr~'r:m lu iudil'tull. :1r1 Illc1' inlli'I:Iblr io I Ilr :mrnw' in ,rllitII you le Ihl' Irrln f i\Ir. If`.ut~vl.lr:N'. \',s; I ILiul<w. \I r. 1vnurr.v. .\ rl I61y urlrlu11161r prulIntIn8 Blr. P.tr NSl.M'. Yrv,:ntluumbile rzLnunl " -nsrv, I Iley n rc nnt ulnrkrI- ublt, you dnu'I, ::ell I heul, Inll.1'urt r,ul uul rl:el. n 1;u 111111 dol.In'l. Irrndnlr nn.l'n'Invrt nenr as mnrh tchern ,cn h;lrv ;JI Ih:ll. rninp; uu umc iu 16n ti,'nnlh. All'. b)I.IENItINIkN. tiei'I'PILLI.y Q111=!ley Ir;+li/ild Ifefnre a Seuote runl- mitIen Ille plhrr tln.y nu Ille rIl'orlv uf Ihe Ilel/;n'tnlvnl. If I Ilu n.=eorrh 111 Ihla lilIll,olnd Ile ia;lp,+ain lesl/l:yinw~ Io1Ll,y'. Atr. V .talNUlda'. Yuu w~tt ull tcurkiuw uu Ihis. I mu Iryiu~ lu In'iu uul. o'Lnli.6:llrpnnin~. Alr. I~;LLO:nn,N:n:n. 'I'Liw Uepnrluunl, In rldher 16e 1'ublir. 11ou11h Se.rt'ire, in /uujwulion tcilll Llle (;tiA, 6n,s n'arlted uu Llle ntlopliun, esseul.inll,y, of Lho ('alliforuin aulomul»le oX6:nls6 ta;nldltrdn Afr. 1~-uwal.rs.-. And ynm Uep:uiulenl is reroumleudint;- Afr. b:c1,e:NluuuaN. Tor Ihe. pnrrLane nf fincernnlrut t'nrs-ILniis, lo innnrpnrutn in t.ho 1961; model5 rmiz;~iun ,,tul rul r:yvloms baud on Ihovr I,Il:ll.:lrn un,c retplire/l, ur I:It1Ler Irill Im, undnr I~he ('alifurnia( rrqlda- liuus-SU Ihnt Iheu t:In Lee letited all ol'cr Illri country to uvt tchel6er thl:tie:lroIlle Afr. F.ulxvleer. (J:rn Ihe, F..1'(' eufurre (Ilenl lo pntitt Ill all r:us? All'. l$I.I.rNlslrtuEN. Thc FTC t%unld llave nnnnrh rud6nrily. Afi. T.uwreletn'. is thete :Inp6ody in ILn (iueernmenl. Llyd. rttu forre Ill to putt il.un nll tnrs? Nit'. b:Id.r:NnOnaN. 'I'hcrA is nu :lulhnrily Ill iu Ihe. (invernmenl. In requiro Iho iuduGlry (o pul. 16ih an. ''6trc mrn le~isl:dire prnplnnls 1Mfo1Y111to ('nnhPeS4. nl r. RA It N xlea. 1)u YOU e.ndor~e I he~n bi l h? Nil'. 1:1.1rNnan:N. 'P6iti yuesiiun is Ixiuff ditirunr:ed 16is ml by Serrcl:lry Qui}fle:l~, :Ind I 6ad lo Iw hrrr. unll I ruuldn'I. 6e Illrre. and I am nut suru tclnll r;uuc up fodny. Dfr. F.tuvslr;:-. 1\"hat nLnul, rirnSts? (11n me indilI. Ihrw? /4tu tru,lu wlyl6iut,r,tbunll ti ruus? Mr. SA'rn;r.rua.u. Will I6e pmnlleumu virlJ beful'e ltc :mstvers Ihul. Iplesliou? I ha.ceaqnevl.inn in Ill 1\ll'. FAIINFI.t)1'. \l Itfr. SA'rrlelerle.l.n. I hltre been reliably infutvleJ thu.t11fr. Q.ui{,*Iry uppcared blrfuru I he Senale cnmwil lrc auld in formlvl ILeln IJrltI l I 1P:\V liliv la~islul.iun. «;ts not intmesled ill ,\'!r. Rra.r:NnausN. I ditln 11101111' tchat you sai<l, ~ir. Air. S.rrruan=Ixaar. 1lutve Lx:eu ittformed III:11. 1\ic Qnigle.y, in ap- praring Lefure (he tien:de couuuil.leo yuu nleulioned intlicatr.tl Ilml. Illn Dr,p.u'lullvd. uf Ilea.llll, P~dnrNt.ion, amt \Vtelf:l.rll Ilxd uu pat'lirnlnr inlt+resl. In Ilmt 6i11. Is ILaI rnrl'co.t8 iAfr. lp.l,t.erau,s:ns. No, cit; 16n1. is nul rorrrtI, Illat il1 h:ld nu inleretil. '1'hi5 I)epa.rl)nlut. is tilally iulerevfal in I llr snbjetIImll le.r nf Ihul. bill. MI'. P'A¢Nr;l.r:r. 1VIud. rnn ynn dn 411.4.111 l Ihre virns, anylLiug? 1)r. '1'lalcu)-. I Ilou't, know .c6al, we r:m dn, ylr. Pn.rnsley. lYn aree reti.ainly pursninl; tht+ yuesl.iun of dnllniu;,q more tIcnrly n6rtLer or nul. i6iv is n c:msnlice fnclur. I Illiult ILee eridnnre Inllny iti Tar frunl lx.in~'tvuvinriuk,hul.:dl6asamrlime.il.istilronp;l)'tnunl;l)vnspi,inns Iltnt 11 ue-l~.InLnfnl6,nr/l :,n,I,crnrrJnin.+iird Ih.tl All: F11tNn1.KS. \ ntl lll' 1Pa1'I<IIy"uIlIlle Ilul'111O11PFltitl? I p'. 'I'laun'. .lunl nnlo fmI t:er Irolvl I Imre. 'Plle. eoug res::inun I r,ulu- Iuillel^: I/rrmun snllirie.olly inlrroslell iu Ihiv In'l, }'rtn Ihat Illey set. uvidn.y:t milliuu uf onr alq,ruprinliuu. lu Illta (':ulrel Inslilulo to fln- Ihrr sIwlitti alnnn IIliv linn uf rsulrer null virttsls, pnrlilul:u'ly ns relnllI In lenlaluln, bWm iu nlLor ennrrr nlnu. tiu y'Inl srr, wr urt Icorltin"nn il, bul. I IluuI. 16inlc /6n1l trn Luee. enau};h rvidenrr nl. 16e. Ilrrseul. I ime. 111r. VAtINnl,ICr. I unllrl:~llnul. luur rensnn fnl' unll rlrnnmlendiol! I.Ilulmlrl l,t'- vluppell, is il. I,Ililu.oplliral iu poinl' dn ynn Ivy1Ln/l,l'1'~ lun 1p6Yb vtll ull~tcl'1' 10 ItIiF IIIICSIIIIII :1% Ill tt'lly 11'N SLnlddn'I tiln~r nlJrerlitiiulg ill new.ptl /ers uld 'I'V, which iN rtmtiinyq proplntnamnteci u Rrcllrs, a'6ir6 is I<il~ina 16rn1. Ur. 'I'esur. I tlmt't. Ivmewber esnrlly Ichat. I sllid. Well, to say Ihe leasl. 1 tuu nult re:tdy to go Ihalf flu' pel:snn,dly. At r. V,utunlan~. I uudrlxland. 'I'h:t)Ik y'ou so nmc6. }'ou have beeu v"r.y entn'leuus :uui :'cl;y helpful, antl 1 hnce It':u~ned ut lul, and .1 np- preci:do il-. '1'In, ('n.wllnLtN. I)utInr, il, is f.cllin lale. :nld I am uoll gninRg lu defain yun ;Iny luuger. I rcrrnl. Illnl, tce Ilavee nolt hee.n ublr In )uake mnrei prngresti in fhe.se he:triugw (L:ul tce hllce, lrot. 1 asked you e:nlim lilloul. t.he rllllplnr in y~our reporl ou ILe tLenlistry of lollatx'o. 11. iti rhtl.jHa (i nn p:t;;e 4R, I~l)!iuninf* on Ilat!o 48 ;Ind nn page 49. Itt ex- plalne.d tr6o1u lolutrro len r toulqine. 1)n ynn luloa' w'6ell,or ilf is Ihc fi/bulru leaf IL;tt presenls Ihn I.lireal, if IhalI is 16o ril,!hl. tt'urd lo use hrre, nr is il. f Ile Slelu? 1~urvs I Ilr Imly ul6er pv't aunlll bn I lln rlud. I ~nrss/.Lnl ttuuhln'I.Iwntly Ilruhlrln. Ilr.'1'ianrr. Alr. (1Lnirlnau.uwl' I na:1)r Ilrtndley Innnca'erlhis. Ilt,llnsmnronf tln+Ivo6uit411detnilsl6:nl I du,tiir. 'I'he ('uAnrnlnN. l~ev. I11'. I I I I NnL4:Y. 'Phe h;lz:lydoac uudr.ri:11, sir, is hnlh iu Illc Irlf nnd riset us;e reaulL ol' I Ln hnrniu~, of I Ile le.a P. 'I'6n('It.tntnlAN. 'I'Lo Luruint!ol'16v.lruf? I TI. 1111 Nma:v: 1"ev,.i t; IlluiuR ILe atI n;ll,nntitunId iun uf a 'I'Ilo ('Il.ultnl AN. 'I'/Inl. bnrniu,r Illen llrlw'n/.. 16n Ilytlrle'nrhtlnNP Ih'. IluNYes, Ati Iluy vr).'I:LLIn nlnlnl'inl, sc6rn it. is barnetl, especially if it. is Inn'uell uutle.r cnndilinn5 of l:nIt uf /~cy~en, 11.9 e.il;urrllrv :nr, gives rinoe lo, jusl lil:e ruI1 tclle.n it, is btunell, Ilydrn- cn.rbunc I Ilal, :Lre rn.r,'.inngalic. 'Plle ('uAntn[.tN. I f itt mnro noh Inn'ned, il, woqltl not preseul, nenr tlro Iul.z:udg 1)1'. IIuNUIat:'. 7'Lere is sonlo bnt nnlrll los5 Ilar.a.rti in un6urned iobnran. '1'6n ('IlAntnl.tN. In ILuII rrrnrtl 1 tronld nssmun II)nf vllwl:int±apiprg nl aA ni,(:Ir scuulll pmsenlr thte stuue tllrrnll insoGtr Ihe m.,nllr is ruu- rnrnr,l ur LIIOILI'u;tl.n.n111.llnolllet Iru'Ivnf I hr-- __ 1)r. I IuNUI.In'. 'I'u sume ezlent. you would expe't. ILe stuuee regulls, 't11,Lou1;'ll t.helr. nre mnny dilfereures. As you I:nnw, Lhern nro dif- iolrnrrx ill I.IIe utinnl nmutult nf iululln6iun. Tllelv! :ue dill'orenret in 1.6n ,ra.y IhalI foLnrro is Fmnlcwl ur 16r tcn.y 16r lobarru bnrus. '1'61rn ;Irn dilPer/nms iu Ille. I;ypev of tuhnrro Iflnl.:lre uFed for ti;ronv, I'or pipes, fnr r'i;;:un/les. 'I'hlr' :irn Inurlc4 II IIiIGv~lu'~,,: in IL,...I~,,.I-,.

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218 CICAItIi'rl'Is' LAnP:IJN(I ANI) AUC191'I'IPINr;-111n6 61r. lti>,uens ofMav. 1)nrlot, yuu luudr a shllelnenl. Ill in mlhirlt you snid Ih:tl. you thuagld. you tserc ngainst :III uiensmres Ihot tvould pnt nn,y reslrirl iona un Ihe Falernl Trude ('ounoicsion in doinR whnt I ltey .,~ere, :J l rulpl inh lo do: Ilrur, uu1Y I pul n:c..rlf linnlp un roronl ::.u oppucinV Iha.r mrn~an.a Ilmt wu11h1 dirrrllv or iudirrrlly IW':vcul 16r Mrdor:d '1'raile Comurisa'm frnul uvllnn tu prolcrI i6e pnhlic Lc vuprreiJunuf ndrerli.iuR. Notr, I lurl+:r, rlirl yon ever st ndy Intv't I)rt }1'u.l.l.tnlx. No. \II'. L'ur.oats of '1'ex;t5. 11'hnl, 1 tcnnt In pniul, np, I tlcinl: ILe nlain issue Itern is vvLo ik r,uint; to pul. Ihe rcins on lhe sit uatian iuvolviug lilt iuclu,lr.y Illat is ~ecry iwpurt:rnt in tlcis rucudrv xt1 lhe pre~.ulI liwo 11'om :nl rennolnir.s!nudpninl, if rrinntur nrrrlrrl. Nmv t lle. I~ edc.rul ''rnde Commis.inn is It rroal.lnn o F I ht Cont.ress nf Ilie Ilnited Slnlrs. 'I'he Slngean General's dn cnrlmeul. is It division of tlie exrv:ntivc l>runr6 of Ihe (7overumenl, :wc~ il is mv position, my hill truti introdneed for Ihe plupose of Inying down n tiiluation ihat ILr ('onpre,s ol' Illis romdr.y, wndr up ol' I hc. . dtlly clrr.lad repres.nlntives und:r Ihe. ('onslilulioly nre still the ours tcllo nre snplmsed to cet, policy in ILis lield. I Ihinlc 16:dIlhe testirnony of Rfr. Dixon mi~ht indicnte Ihat lie ILun,rhl thc Congress might be enc~.ronr6ing upon Ilis dumnin, bnt T think il gLonld I,ee troinled oul Lere nnd notv tlml Ille Federnl'Prnde ('.ununission does not hllvo an,y pmcers uuless we t;ive Itlmn to I6em. Notr 16ry nmv end np tril6 them. 'I'hv.r aro lukiut; n lul they don't have. 'Pht;y niny getanny tvitlh it., bnl il' / hcc cto ILen it tvill bo a ch:utue in nnr form of government, nnd I don'I ILinL vou ~ennt Ihnt. I Ihink Ihc Conrress oeRhl. to nmlcc this deriuion. nnd ~I think that 16e Tederul Tracle Conunission should con- fine ilsel f In Ihe oliices for Whicll it tras sel ull, nnd I lmt ia l o administer wLelnrer law llie repnwmtutives of the peoplc owke. Thnulc yun cery nmrh. si r. 'I'he ('nnncntArr. Mr. Sn.Iterfielrl? hf r. S.rrrc.mrna.u. 1 6ave nu c1ua51 ions. '1'6e CuantntAx. Afr. Fnrnsley? Mr. Vtnwr.lav. I)nrtor, vour pnper is cer.y l~rersnnsit-e. I llnve Fot a Iirolun Sellv.cr bnlllre wliich snys, Illey tc:urn al!ainstr exressive nse. Am I nLunlt right? If it is Worse lhnu ciI':treltes7 eeprolli6it. it, and Volt oiin unlv I. ou n. dnr1ur'Slrrr~rrildlnn :[oofhnlls n.nd nnrrnl irs, :anl if it is not qnile so bnd, we n-nrn nr*ninGt exrr.sGive nce, nnd then on r.i;*nrel lrs wr. just narn nraiust il us n hr:dl ll haznrd? I mm not Il.ving lo IrirIc yon nr :cnylhinq. I lun Iryinlg to see vvhnt, ynn believe. 1'on see, vnu don'r Imtro Iha prcs.gures Iltnl Iliesc n~onny peol,lr, do. Yon don't have 111e presslures 16n1M we do. Yon ean take nn nbsrJnlaly rnol vietv of Ille t6ing,. I)r. \1'u.L1.tn15. I a'ocld say that 1he a<Itml tcmding of it .co would lenve np lo the rood judl*menl of yon grnlletnen, nLichever agency isFoin:; Io6erIntrRed tcilh Ihnl rrsponsiblllly. As fur n:c I n.m Pcrsomcllv conrr1'ned in Ihe American Cancer So- cietv, mo wnldd like to sro tho product. labrJed ns haznrdnns to 11enlIL. AL. T.vervsc.ln'. I:verybodv tLnt cnnivs ill ndeoenling 16nt, detends nldonmbiles nud mIrshy. '1'lley nmke rigorellrs, autrnnobiles, xnd t,Lisl;v all in nlv di, drirl, so 1 Jrrn'tt l.:nno: ,ctlnl civrv to Inl;:.. I claAiusTrP: 1..41u:IJNrt A\u AntV:lt'rlftIStl 1968 Ltll l'nu nreLnppy Ithonl nulonlnbiles, aren'1. you? You r'uoled lho Indy Remdor Ihal 16ey r:ul I,e rnnrle nll rig6t. i6uaeJ c:uefally nnd whisky a:ut hn nserl enefall,y. Illomn Seltzer rnn be nced cnrclllllv 6nt it snys exresvit~e usc+ is /lnlll!P.1'rllls, I:ecp nm~ny front rrrn, ruld n~l ILnt. 1)r. }Vlu.l.tnls. I Illinlc all of us lod:lv who t6in1< nt nll Ive cun- et-.rncd 11110111. alcullul luid nnieinnbil:~s. IlotceVer, in Ihis dav of clm- ciuliznlinn wo rnn'I. :JI Irc sI,roiolisls in erea'ythillg, :lud I ilnn(. set. nn^;cll' up na bring auly nnl6orit y iu Illc fielcl ~nf nlrohol and mdonlo- bilrs. A t.rrn/ dcul is 16einl; done in Ihose fields ns I mlderslnnd it, t o rrgn I;d e I I no nmt and nbnse. Alr. Rrwu:ICn uf'Pe.vns. }}'ill Ihe gentlemnu yield fnr one qncstioll? nlr. t~ tliNCl.rrr. l'rs; hnl I tcnol lo ronl,rntulnlu Ihe nire dcnclor, lle is rme of n fetv mmit 1 hate orer seen .c6o tcnsn't nu aal6orilv on orervlltint;. ' Mr. Ii1NIlU1F of 'I'rxns. I/:,:Iru, tjn yon lliicdc il ,vould hrll. if Ibn ('nrnLr-r+ rrrlni/r:l n flmu, nrnslrr nn 16c rslulusls a nll uinlnr vrhir6,-9 I/cl1'u.l.l.tnrv. Trerlainly:lo. 11fr.'1'hnnlc jua,mir. '1'Inmlcyun,lllrk l~aruacy. A1 r. F vc Nvr.r.i'. Is nlrohol a unro.ol iu? 1)r. 1VIr.1.lAnls. Not so rernrcled, uol In nry knntvlerly,re. 6fr. FAnNSI.I:r. Aly Annrir:uln. blucyeloprdin, said so, and I nevrr Ilenrd of Ihnt bo.fnrr. If it, is nnt, yurl have ansttered rny rpleslion. 'I'Irqnk yon ro nunh, Ihulor. I nni Ilu-onl!L. 'I'Ln ('nnucnrArv. I lurs Ilm s;rutlriwui's Jinlrirl Irrodrrr Itramn Srll- zrr. / no ? Tlr. R.,nrvsr.er. If il is Lnd lee Jo. 11'0 6nve gnl evrrvl6in{;. '1'he ('u:v1:n1Arv. llortnr, Ih:udc ynu vel,y nnlcL. 1}'e are t;rldeful lo cnn for.var p;t)irnro in nnil iu~ luid frn tlte opportwiily yon have ~i cou u~ tn Itrlu' yonr presentct ion. l lr. H'n.l.lAnl.c. 111r. Clinirmnu, I Ihnnlcyun. brrunv. I kuotv yr,u llnvo b:r:l Ill il very htnrl nll dnv Ino. I nppmriate i/.,cil. '1'lle ('nnntnrnn. '1'hsnlc yrm vcry mur11. '1'6r rnumiillrr oill nJ- lorrn these lleariu'-'s unlil 'I'uesd:ly next.. I Ihink )/rob:rhl)' llir lirA Icilnrs t6al. tce n:ill liave on '1'nesdnv icill le 16ce rhnirlnnu (if the Natlounl luternl;euc,y (lonncil nn Srnoking uud IL:cllh, Nr. Emervnu Font e. 1Ve hntte lo pl'ocerd teilh ILeso Learing4 jntf ns vxpedllionvly ns tvo en n, hnl :Ippnrou(ly ii, is ~oin~+ ln he soum l ilne be[nre .ve conrluQc if t,~e I:Itr:n:111 nf I hnvr. Wio hatt~e. inrlirulyd /la~y nnut lo bo Lenrd. ''he rmo- mil I:,r t,~ill:uljnmn until'I'urwdny nt IOdcIrnk in tllis rounl. (1Vhrrrnl,on, nt. 5:2!I 1/.IIL tile foI111111Itee recessed, lo I"rnnvene on '1'urs:lny nl IO a.n1., April I^, I:IGG. )

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2I/(i ('IUAllltil"I'h: LAItRIdNU ANU AU1l:If'I'IsIN/l-ID6fi 'I'he ('u.tutmnN. AYu:trc.lallciug :tbond Illy dtI,.ren» oa-:Iti lo trh:dt to dn lu ;n-t lu Ihr. rr:tl pru611'lu. IluuIwutyprnllle Ilie Lrruuse nl' il. 'l'Iwl, is nlud, hnw );ul.:l. Inlt af pcul,k. I.ctilrll ovtr swnkinl; eiRrmnllrs, luugrnnlrr. ' lilll. 1:uu sln'e t.hnl. Illure nre u lul. nu,re uplt, (Lat smukn iu 16is vouNry, er.l'.y likely, wnro pcul,lc 1.6:d, slnu~,tce tllnn even drive ludo- nll,bi les, lur.ll'It Itere P 1)r. I)Al.ln'nlrl.o:. 1 11011111 ium{;inolhnl issu, yea. I'6a ('uAUCnr.nN. 11. dots raise a prnldl,ul, :u I,rnlly smiuu5 quevliou. A I r. P:uusluy. nGt Ii`.tltNVt.r:r. I)aCI ur,.ynu don't Lnv/ 16r,ooll,lit:d.iot,v uf I,ruLll'nlc of m:t.ny of Illeae :tdmiuitilrltt-il'r. :Igruvirs. 11' )~uu had yuln' drldher'v, il' you runld trrile the I:ttr ur o'rite. 16r bouk, I kuom Lllis is lut unf:lir qnrst.iuu, buh utf, l.lln iop uf yoqt 6tnd, kl',IlLlalA'e nrc not. It rruv, scl.liun, you nru Acit.lt ynunC prnl,lr', tchal. -ould yon du nboqlIhtsu v:triuus I.hinRs'f lu rir .;lrrI Irs yon tcnnld Ro jnsf ns fnr ns Iltc tiargcau Uom'r:ll nxomwrod.and nu flirlher? 1)r. 1l mItvm rl.u:. 1'cc, Alr. IrnltNnl.l:r. 111 tthi5kvyou Munlll Irllcr il :IV if i:;') I) r. 1).a.ln' nt rl.o:. 11'tI1, tv h lra.l iuu, I I l i i n k, u P cuw'sn, is i m purl au li. i n I Itis a rr:,. I du uuL La,'c a cl,onilil; I,rnpus/l I. Afr. PeuNhl.on'. Nutt', tce jnsl. );ol. Ilu~un,h doiuk. Ihe equic:tlent nf n naliuu:tl pruhibiliun for goofbnlls. 1"on Iadd ),rel.chislcy on n Ila.lors' pres/ripl.iou durin),~ prohibil iun. Some people say ciEu.relles w'ell'6 l,arallo.l brcaavn a da'dor tcadd urt'cr Irn_ctribe t.huw, alUtouglt LLrre L+ suuu16iug ubunl. the pvyrhinlrir IKvuelil, flly dlHJur snt~s uulnldy (t'nl:; Ido:tsinn unl nf vit,arrlirs. 1Pould 1~ou Lo iu fat'uruf onl- I:nciugrCnol' 6ulls elnuldolhly rsrrpl un presrrild.luu. 1/r. I).u,u r nt rl.l:. I I II inlt su. Afr. W.vtNaI.ln~, 1'uu rould 110 Snl iaird trilL ull tJlru prublems if the (i/rc/,rnwr.nL Ilul. InLrlsou rir:lrellts anll rr:vniul;s uu (heullt'rl'Litiing, /lr Ac/luldll'I. Al~ll ~ 1)I'. Ilnldn~nml.r,. I think the (luvrruulrutj mi};hl. .vell rraul. lo Iln snu:t.Illing us I'nr ns alAmm~bil/p safl1)' is rnnrorned. I would :Il;'rra " tcilh You,Alr. V:Irn.sk,y. Alr. V.tmN,lrar. I)u you Ilntc auy Lllrnry nbunl I.hn II>re nf u:lnolir,,, tarnino,nud,v6:11rv,r'? I)r. Il.tl.lcvnn~l.t:. IIh t,uuld luke nmc6 moru Ihlut G nliullles. I Lnt~r .lusl liulshlII n'ril.iugtlu in I'urlwl I a rl ilIr on I Ilis ulso. 1fr. I4AIINtil.1:r. l1'ultld ynll PIu1l1, I II:11 xvd(III it' ynll h:ld t Lr. rJlan[`P, ILe pmsnnlnmrlml.iu~,~ synltw$ I)as your:nlillemo.nlinu 1-hiv? I)r. U.u.ln'nnt.r:. Iirloiwnendiu, nn vLm,gls :Is Gu' as I:1Ltls ul' Irvral I,ru6iLil iunv a rll tnurrrurd, nn. Alr. 1~ AllNl+l.r,r. 'I'lumk yaa. Yuur pnl,rr wnknN1cllrnl. Ur. 1).tl u t~nl r1.1:. '1'hltulc yon, rir. 'I'ho ('uAul-1I.tN. I)ncl ur, du yuu 6:nr nny iu furw:dino, vinrc ynu :uo in nlle::llh progr,un aull :I1. Iht "rrul InPlillde nf 1'rinvvtuo, Ilu ynn h:nn:tny infnrw:dion nn 1.6t<dlirtn,~l' nulumnhilt fnmtson penpla? I)r. I).u.m'nrlI.It. No furlltr.r LLau tch:ll ,vas prtceute/l by Ih.'I'rrry Inelninly agtr.ulhnt this is impurlnut. 'I'I nC11.11L'n11N. \'UII IIIIC111,ut 1oI111C:1 ul lfll)' qf II111I IIPld? Ur. U.v.ln'ntPid^.. Nn, rair. A1r. Illwlers ol"I'rcls. 11'ill I Ilr,mnll/rl'.un )'il~ld? I',, ,it ~, , ~.,, . 1'IqAltl4r'I'4: LAIiV.I.INII AN11 AII\RIPI'IFI`:/1 IllGS 207 \Ir. RImtFU.v (of 'I'rxus. I)nu'I. )'nn I6ink il is inqinlunl, ILunr6 I)u,Iur, Ilml )'rnl ru iuln I6:11 tuurr? I wr:ut w-Il:li I r:lnlt luuIrrslnnll is aity so mah Liwe Ilns hrlu dtt'ulyd lu t'il;nrrtlrs Ilu,l uot dtvulrll to 16is ul.htr. I truolJ rnl6,r wtnice lU eip;m't'llr;l I Ilau (olluw uur_e uf 6ht'sl+ Lusus fur 1(1 binnkz. Il.:+tIm4 like my brenthinC app;trnlu5 bl- rnmrs c.lol,.gtd np 6y just. fullowinr Ilww. AfaylM ilIs p5yrhulngi,nl. Ih. I)Aleel nlrl.l:. Of rulnmr, 161 /ig:urllee is inmltdialolv ander the c'nulral uf 16t, iudicidunl tcLu sluolu's il. '1'ht fuults nrc Iht pruLlrm nf nueieAy nv a. o'hubr. Alr. ItOututa ofISut I u,ran Lot6 nf Ihtm grl iWu ILI lnd,lir IIr:JI lt ailual.iou. Ih: U.v,lnnn'I,u. lYrll, ynll rrlI,ruirre thnL I alu tw ndmiuislralr. I Ilu ,c6a1. rcvrnrrl: 1 lun'n limn ILr, snr6 :ts Llle sm'vey Ihnl. I Irftrrrvl lo I,ri/.tly. 1:uu n,vl'.r going 6u du rxlrnsice resemrh mysr.lf. Afr. litnlratH ol` Te.xas. Aru yuu ,Issaiaicd milh 611o Canlrr 5utirly? Ur. I1.c1.Itrnmt.H:. Nn, t:i r i jutil wi11111u+ l luisrr:;ity I leall h titrrirrs at 1'rinrtlun. 1:un Ilrre rrlreeslIdiu;± Il,r .\meric:lu ('ullo;n Ili:,IIII :\Yµ,uilliilrll. Dt 1'. BI>,: raw nf'I'rzas. 'I'l ln ul< yun, sir. 'I'lIP ( 'II.111tFIAN. I)I1PInl', III:IIII: vun vol.)~ murh. 1Cr multI:A:Inll ynlu' problcw. 11'I, lctIrnuln you la 16iv ,onuuillor Icil6 yum- tien,= wul ,cc, appl~v+:lle ILn voNril~ulin you 6nvo utado lu 16is ranrll. I)r. I).tl.lyntrla=.. 'I'Il:tnk yun t'ery muoh,Tlr. ll:trria. Tho ('unntnlAN. I/r. 11'illi:uus. I bt'liner, I)urlor, t6alyorl Itat'n "'iIL you I)r. Ane-rbarlh. 11'e arr sorry Illltl. tcr hat'c dvl:lined you I;eW Irtucn. 1'on I,;IVe Ltrn hrrn :111 d:ty" ProLaMy all t,'relc, 1d4m'1 kno,r. I Ilopc yuu ~ul. nulnr.l.6inh nul.,,f I lte disrussiun. I)r. {Pn,l.ln nu.. \\ nh:lve Ir:n'n,d n.I;rrnt dt:Il. I)r. :ltir:lnsnurl. Pfr) ('Itail'mnu, muy I vny Ihal. I Il:lcr a1 slnllmrnlt nn,l mnltriul a'itlt Ino 16n1is );uiu;{ to lake umrh lunrlr Ill:m III minuil's. Whul. I hltve lu sny is iullr.prndtnL uf Iy. l1'illi:lula. I Ihiul: /lu+ (Tair dLuuld Lr su inflirrmvl. 1)r, Willioms 6:ts It I11-miunlr slnlr.Inr.nl,Lul.minatcilll,omucll luugerllrln IOmiuul,s. 'Pho Unenent.tN. I)nrlur, et. tcill hnt'o lu haro yuu /nwr La.'Ic nl:wolhr.r I~unn. . Ih. Aulslnu/'.n. Iicill be crry Iw.pllv tn rowrr bnrlc tw '1'ur"d:lr. 'I'Im ('u.vunl.Nrv. I ILiuL Inldrr the rirr.mltvlnurrv il. ,tiil br qul'nir In you nutl Iu /LuruntluilltI, siurr Illo nlllrrti nrvr~~:nilv I,:Id lu Ilncl, tl. Loiu;!'sn I:IIr, aml il Xn,uIll wd hr- pr:,clicnl In slny hrm nll Ihronf!h I6o nigll6 fur 1.6ia, juvl. you nud Ine. I l r. A u r:lutn l n l. I tc i l I bn w uro (ha n lm ppy l o rel u l~l. ' I'h u (Iu n utnrnN. 1'rocce+l, 1)ota u r. STATEMENT OF ASHREL C. WILLIAMS, M.D., CHAIRMAN OF THE MEDICAL AND SCIENTIFIC COMMITTEE, BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY lh. 1Yu.l.lnMn. A1r.('Lnirw:ru, I think I c:ul Itresrnl. tny It'alimuny in less thal II) IIIIIIIIII:9, NII'. I u.m. :1sL6rl (;. jhilli:uuc, lll.l)., :, sm)rrnn from .1:Irkeliurillr, FIn., a.ud I:Im rhninruul of the Dltdirul and tirieulilit Cnwutillrt' uf the Ronrll uf Uirerlulti of i.6o Amrriruu (':mrrr :9nrirle. I:nn u ultol- luw. ol' Ilio (':Inrrr /'omnlillrr ol' Ihr Awrl'irnu ('nllre'r Of tiuo(/nm, . i~ . ~ .~ , ~ .. . .

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176 rn;Altl'rl°r4: I..uW:I.lsf: Anu AnPOllrrlAINC-..196fi IanAnl.rr'rU: I,.uniLwu w1J AuVlsn'rIFIN(: lon( 177 Alr. AI.vcr.Nv. T wmdd like lo ask if Ihc Ynblic Ilr:rh.h Sr.rvice is ruothlrl.iul" nn5' rllncaliou in Ihe puhlirt schoolG dealinl,~ willt Illo haz- ;n'tLs u-<arinled a'il.h Ihoauusulnpl.ian of litplor. I)r. 'lllotr, I Ilo nol. luluo trht!IlLCr tro, nro er onl. 1Vc ora ccr/n.ildy Ilorliripa/mtr in sludies, mlll I nnl nul sarn mhnf.lLCr vcr, havr ;luy ia Nrhnul nr nol. I)a yuu luteu',1)c Ilmldley P I)r. I I oNnl.ln-, 1Vo dn have n schnnl heallh Inol;l:rnl \vhirlt n.tlenlplc lo promMe ILe tonc,hing of gooll hoallh priuelplos ln schools, and rer- Illlllly Ille Illtlll(/fl' Ilf Rlltohollsln 15 ]au't. of thntt cnrriculnfn. I do not, I hink n'e hnro Imyspenific proRrnm for 1]lis. nlr. Tf nrncn.-. 1 t Soculs t.n mu Ilud. I llc rcuclion of the tnlmcr,o in(lostt'y is ILall tharee is onfnirness hmn in t.his a.pprunc,lL of Ihe FTC1 tn Lheir indoslly :IV dislinglished fronl I:L(, (lnvm'mnout's nlt.itn(le tow:rrd fI(h1of. Now, I n~mdd like lo nddress /t qmsl ion to yoor c,nensol lloro, .1 do nol, sro nqylllin{g in yonr 1'eport.-I m;l_y h;Lve misse(1 il, -nn I'.he rocent. IcRal hislsn'y of deonhge saitv associntod with tobacco nnd caucer. I)o ,Yun Ilaro any Soch sunnnnry nf whr.t.hnr soils h>Lvo lMrn hrongllt nntl %vll n.l 1 ho lL i sl nry u F t hrso stt iks h:rs hr.rn ? nll'. EI,tP:N11nIlP:N. A{/e lllay, 11osSIhlY, III Ille T)l`lntl'I lllellt I1:LVe sllclt 11 nunuutu'r, bnt Ignl not Invnre of it. lP6ile I Icnovr, mysnlf, ar wnno c:l.vco-~, like. Ihr. I:rnnll. cuso, we do m/t consider it onr respnnaibilil;y lfl tnlupile :1 r'r1:uH uu prolllrt IinbiliI v, bet':nl=e /lull1 is n Vrirnle nlollnr nnll tvonhl nt+t be rcl;nlufcd by Illis hill, nltheu.p,h lnbelinl; cotdd have q n i l n a n c lfect. nn-- 1\1r, Alnt:/tar. II. scr.lns In nfe tlut.l.,yon cnnnot disc,rlcv this prnpost:d legislation a.pn.rl. from Ihe legal inl +lie:d:ions. A friend of mine nl lunl'll Itrdn,y snitl :"1'ntl know, thi~ ~»II is heing sponsorf.d by tlw to- haet" indusl l:v to relieve theut frnor linhilil:y nntl from Ilnfltorsnmo;urd rslmusicn Ina~suils,n 1Afr. I?LLr:runuar:N. I Lulievo Illnl, ITIO industry ]ntv,yers, Lhc.ir twunsel, nml ILn rrtipnusihln nlann{qers, roo~l6cj nsl.reolnly tnnanione of Ihis :IslnrI nf I Ilu pruMem, ond if, mny o'tI I be 111111. I-his mny reconeilr, f.llwn I n 16is tvpn el' rcr, ;1 nlation. r. 11 v'ICvr. Ivcllolll likc It: oslc %':nl this ns n Ins,vm'. Alronld nol t:l` 16e Icpr of .l:uninec ::ag+rSlcrl iu tluse bills ~rrr.afly slrcnil6vn 16c huwlof:l tlcfcrftlnul in a loll (~:Isr.? :\I r. I:Ll.rsln nu.~v. l u( 6c lonl, rnu it mit*Irl (lo sn, llcrnnse f.6osr, e.nvcs I lml I Ilntr rrn.I :rlnl I 6ncv tiol Inntlt n Iral sl.ully of this lun'tit'.nlnl' 06110- ---6nt thc G'rcrn, t:uc, fur ec:lnqdc, is 6nstal, I 6rlieve, oe Iho iurv plil:I +I:Irraolv of lilnr"s, and 16rrr hriut; ue oolicc of 16r, lmnlth 6o z:1 rtl I o I hr cnn5uloer. 11r. \fIlctre nn\' jndgmrnts been lLnnded down by any cnnrl. of In\c cr/ un ihi.ly'ponf tlnlua~,o'soil3 Alr. Aa,l.tmnaniN. As lsnid hcforc, I lntve oot. made a study of it. lu t Iln I: rrwa vnst, 16ere tvcree jndgmrni5, bnt. T thinlf lshe tinnl-nccnrd- iu+y la ILn prr-s, it wrnll op In Lighrr otnots Iwo or (hteo titncs, and I LLinlc tho- linnl vnrtliclw:r, nol, ellimnloly fa,vornhlo te Llto pluiulill' Ilr- r:orllink to I.Lc nnwsllape.r, nnd I do unlknow whether tLat cnse is ILlinhcd nr no(. I'Lcliccoihcrn +c:ls a15o a, ruse in 1'emvsylv;utin, bnt. n;;oin I ow nntncrlu10nlcll,vith IlLni. II+rrf:`1' if +n;l Ihirtl; il ".h:nll~l hr to h',ISi, 11v!1 wnqrlicll N I'. Nfnt'.u Ar. I n'ould he +nl efnl fur I h:rt, becauso I nm jn4 Rnt l in;; inln LLis vuLjcal.. ('I'6n in furmftJ ino rrfc.rred lu fullovrv:) AI r;M1+nA Nlllol 'I'n_ AVillimn 11, . Cnudriclr. Irrvml : /1h:lrlrv I:. Alnn, Fubjrrl :'rhr sinlnv Iif tile Inw :Ind Ihn qursllnn nf rlulsnllun iu riRUrnllh+'nnrer ca.ven. 9rpnNed drrleluna exisf. for rnx(:v iu 4'Inrid:l, Luulninun, 111n.v,anrlulcrll~. Alk- inllrl, NP+O Tnl'Ic, illltl PI`Illlv\ICllllln. T\Io or III/ OnslS tlfnNe 111 `LIIP t'Ullfis llll/l worr i.rnusfrn'nl tn thc f'rdernl ,olu'1'N ull fllt lLn.1ia uf dnrr,lll' uf riliz:u. llip. 'I'he romniudet urua lu Ihr Bpdcral rnnrl., 'Nn 1'epnrtn h:ler hrtu fannd fir n rrrnvrr.l' by It pinhllin'. 11'hilc Ihrec fnutu q't`rc deCithd In lhr I~'vtlCr:d conl'/n oll lhc Iwnlx nf Jiccr<ill' of rilieuunhlP, uudcr thc ducl.riuv uf Kric c. 'I'rnnPkine, :1111 11.8 , cl I In:!V1, snrli :u: nrl.iuu ha. I,r 6o drrided un Iho hnni~ uP npplirnhlr Slnn Inu'. 'I`ht urlLinu hnvc In'cn hnurd ull n,L{;li{vnrr nr brenrh ol' imPlird arrauly f vuilnhllil,r mltl u;lfol,v fnr nsr. '1'he tplevlllm uf e:rusalinll. Ihnf. i,, ahclher or eut rl1::Vrilr.v rltll,rd Illn t:hIII1tIfY.4 t'IInM'1', II:IF /!nlln 1(r Ilu' jnry Il.v n Qut.aliun nP fnch hl four nol.ioux. Iu flrcrn v. :In/cricnn 7blinr,ro Cn., :104 l+'. :d 711 (('A 5, I!Ni^_), Ihc jnry, in rePly to written inlerro/!nlnnes, foln:d ihnlt rlgnretles hnd elulxed Iho plniulilT'n enurcr. The jury fuund for Ihe drfrn,lturl., 1,111 . thc jud/;ultul tcnr: rrrrr.od hetaulse nf ml rrror in inslrueliur, Ihn jllry Ihut iht defendunl IIIII:+I lllirt rt'tl~nn nhl,r furvxrrn Illt Injury In I+r hrid nvpnnxlble, '1'he aos( AVI1. rcru:rudtd Ynr rclrlul. Nrrr:r r. q:nmdrml. pb8arra Cu., T~9 11. °d li7$ (t'.A. G, I:F::1, .'.'rl. d,n. 877 11.8.913 (l!Ifi1). 1'rifcLnnL v. Lipllrll B dlprr.v To6orro Co 211:, V. 9d ^I2 (t'.A. a, I!Mil 1, Itnr.rd n annun:ny jntlg:urut. fnr lhe dt`frudnul: Ilud rrtnuWlvd Ihr nrliou fi,r Irinl. N.. fnrlhcr rrirurt nu Ihis rnee hnn brrn fnuud, Irnt Rnxx v. /'AffiP dlnl'rix tA t'o., Jdd., 8'IR P'. 211 :1, It (O.A. S, i1Ni4), rcirortn iu a ftv+tnole that thc jur,r Nnb.rqmnily found I.hnt cllGnreltea uern thn rnnnn or nut nf the rnurun nf I:hr ploiol itf'c cltut'tr butd retnnled a rerdict for Ihe tlefen:dml'r fnr nlher ransann. Th+ funl nnir rrpurl yd I hnt IIJs rnse wns nunln uti nppenl. Imrlipua V. B. .1, Ncpdnlde 7'nf:ncro Conlpunil, :117 F. 2d 1!I, 23 (1:.,1. 5, itMia), rcPOrted Lhu nplulon of lhe trial rami. judlic IIW. t.hn jury dld Ilul Ilud mly ron ucction bet,vtcn Iho plninl.ill'n ruuror nnd Ilix tIti~rrclto srnnhhl);, '1'hr Irlnl eourl. judiSC rnnllnnrdl lmwerer, Ihnt he hnd uo mny uf nnrtvrnhrfnn fnr vnre Lhnt Ihiv a'nu,vhnl; Ihe,lury fuuud elurv Ilu+,tury rrhlrWd a Atoreul u'nli1. 'I'hi.a lu Ihr (.uly rrlxn'Icd cnsc n'hirh indirnlri. Ihr Inry did untl find t.il:nmllrs t.u oimcr Ibr Ia:llutilYs clwcor. tn Rn.vs v. I'hilip dfnrri.v'tt Cn., IAA., 3`d8 F. 2d S(C.A. 8, 11Hi1), Ihe tplontion uf cnnxntinn was one of Ihe I.sucs. 'Plu+ jury retunmd a Ftncral vrrJitI fur fhr drfeurhu:t. Thun, it in ilnposMlble to nsrrrhrhl whel.hor or uut tircy found rlRn- retlev tn hnve cnnsed tlw plnintilt's cnmer. '1'hn ranulluhl!; Ihren roported rnses, id. .1. IDc,7nrolda ToAarrn Cmnpnotl r. lf ud- .vun, n14 I+. 2t17711 (IJ.A. 5, 1111:1); ('nopry r, It,.f. ltclmnidx TnOnnrn Vmupnnp, 'L'ii P', 21 17/1 (U.A. l, 1ltfli), 1581+. NuPP. 22 (It, I11ns5., 1116i), :Ifl'd Y:di 10, 20 6fi7 ((I.A. 1, 19fR), null Pndnntrttd r. ltrnnd+/+arrsan, 2!Y,1 Ir. 241 h/6 II'i. 2. IIMiI ). 27 I".11.11.:i7 (I'I.U.N.Y., 1iMtl),'L'S (17.I/,N.1'., 111:i9), rrpnlird ()Ir rli.- posilinu nf Inuf.inns mndo VI'ior lo trWl nud did uot Iteld a'llh Iht Iplrnlinn uf t-noxnl.ion. In Lhe Cnn/wr cn.r, t.he drfmnlnut rcretved numu+ary jndt;u+rnt. 'rhr //udsun enne nnly roporltYl n denlul of Lhe dofend:mt'n lunllon ful' Mnnlulnry jndl;lnent. 4'hn Prtdouml.t enxc rrpurltvt !hn granting of a tvrit of In:eldnwuv In ovnrmuln prrtrinl order Ihnt tvmdd hnrn preehldod the nthnlsalnu uf wnxt, of Ihe plnlnl.iff'x evidentr. A IICIIIIICd dln(I1NHIn11 nf Lhe lnw nf brt`nch or tvnrrnnty In hoyond Ille penpc of lilis mrmonmdvul. 1luterntr, arvrr:a lxilulN nrtr u'nrlhy d wr,u/inn- 'rho ctlxr.a hnvc lu:ifnrudy plm.d citiurclles III tlu` ani1M rlltl`yor,y :ns fnod nnd drugu. [rhrc, nb.nlulc Iinh1111.,5' u'n+lld nrllinm'lly nlln(II for ally hrmrh uf :nl implirll wnrrunly hY 1hn Inmmfncl.lvcr. ill on nvlinn for hrench nf +rm'1:Inl9 h:rulciur n furnd or druR Illn PlninliR nr(llnnrlly nllantra thnt a fnlelttll nllllsl'lllc, n':Ifl prrnvnt- ur Illr Prndorl. vv:ls of snh.aondnrd Ilunltlq, nr Ihnf Iho Prn:hlrl ruutahlrll nu "'lero,n nf ch'mL I1~. J"d.i"bmi .I...I : I_. ... . . +

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18(1 CI/IAlll<'1"I'P: I,AIIKIJNIt :ANII 1P1'hli'IISIN/l -19165 11ir.Itaa:Iw of'Ce.xns. 1'es, 1 aln nol.sure, bnl. T t.llinlt there. uresome re1-1ula.linus wil.h rr.qntd to Ille inclnsinn of newspupm arl.ie,lts iu ILo record. llnl. let the Ohair rercivr I hnu, \vil lt The tmderst/mdillt,r thnt i f 1.6e.ro nre, uo reRuladions awainsl, it, Ihcy \vill 91e inselted if I,Lere is not, objet;l.ion. I f f 6err is, I1Lqy vvill f+c iorluded iu Lllc liles. A1n I~nltruylasv'. Is il. all ril;ld. for me lo rcad ut pnrlion of 1111,111 n in tlncsl.iuuing$ 111r. Ttotnlts of'I`exas. Yes, it is. ATl'. FAitNlsl,ry. I)oetor, I lcnoW ynn :n'o tirefl. T nnl low hlae nn Lhe Iuhm pole, nud by I1te time you gcl. In tne, everybody is tvoru nut.. 1 :Inl not rumplnininK. 1 nm en,lqqlnl- Iqv job Very mncll. 1 Llrulk y,nl -fur ynm clur.ftllly ren:;ouctl repurl uud want to ury lo yon thnt onn of tlle mnsl, lLnarteniug Ibings t.6ul llns I+upl+ened Io ulee ill lY:rchinl;ton is tllnt you 6ave LrongLt n psycl+nlul;isl vvnlll you. I Lolievo fllnt, tlm (ioverntnenl L;IS mnclt Lo lenrn un1111110 h lwlj) to get hvxn Ille soc,uel nnd Iro6n.viorll scienocs. Tn fuc.l. Liwlt in lSlqs oun uf lhe lirst. 16ings I di+l wns Lo l;et Ilro onivcrsit.y selLnnl of Inedic,iue, to nllovv I)r. Kellcr, vclln is ie Idm dop:ui.wont of psychi+lt.1;SS fo ullvise nlo nud he h:ts done t.his e.ontinnnnsly. Sincp. elertion to l'nne;ress I Lnvn ce>nferred with hint lly Inug-tlisL.nco leloplwuc. f Ihon eulplnyed :t fall-Iime pnlil itnl siccld.islns ndnlinisirntnr nud eonstdlnnl. nnd nlAde it point evely ° or :; lumttlls of visil.in<< :I f1ilTcr- cnt nnivursil.y :mCl tniking Io LLcir dnpurlnlont of polil.ic,nl scieno.e. I Ilnd jnst finitihed 2)'enes of I;radunll tcurl: myuJ f in suc.inl st.irnrrq , so I Itnnw T nc,c,ded htip. I nln 6opin;!' Ihnl.ynn Iln.ve.rottcn coulcvchrre unar :ts gornl advice on Ilte clleels of vnnr rrcunmleudntiuhs, ns cuu h:tve un LI+e qeostinu of smulfinzT and IIenIIL 1i'om the soeinl seieitres or froul Ihe bcllnriorul scienaes. 'I'hme ate it cnuple of nrticles iI wnuhl like to read yolf a litt.lo hil froul wld t.llan nsk your npiniuu nnd Ilmn Ili.~en~s 16u pr+ddenl uf Ike possihlc clTorls nf ynm prngrnm. 'I'llis is Illc I lercld 'I'rilnulc (il' vr:acrJay. 1 Lhinlc yon Inld 1)r. ('nrler \vrre lulkinp; ~ILuultllis, bul cnn ull o~rro. plr.lly ler6ni:,11 fnr un. s iv I/~I~:n.rl (1Lcll, nrilut'e. rllllor, uf I'bilxdellrhi;t. 1''nr n tvcokv n rlrnng+. lnokinlf Iru,k auud nl. Lhe curb nn llcrnld 8+pulrr. lu rstrnrr, It. rvn, nn ,Irrlricnlly-Jrirvn ,^,iuul lirr:nhiu{; nmrldno nud iu Ihal purinti it. IuhnlrA qlMltl rnLie n+flr'rn ul' ww Surl:;: uir-_Ihc a:une air yon nnA I bnnlhr, ,lflrruan'tl, aviruli.els from Sl,wu-I:rlLrrin~ lanlilnlo ramuvrvl ihr Illtrr:: cunled wilh wrot, Inelnls, nud urgnuir gum- 'I'hry dis[udvml the orgnnic rnnln- ri+ti In t'hrwirnls +wd vr4:u:+1r/1 il inlu .wcrrai fmIiauu. '19+vy Inlirdtrl ILc uutlrrial ouGt fhr L:rok,e td micc nud tvnllcrvl. After w+rrnd uwulh,l, IHt Perrru1 ut Ihr m+iwnln JrN'rlnprJ r:m+vrt nl' Ihn vkin. 1'on trerotalkin}~ nLnnt.lllis, \crrn~ou nnl? f)r.'IS¢mlr. Ycs,sir. WureferreJlothis. Afr. FAlwsl.xe. 'I'hey sn,y it. is Inat'll tenrse in Del.rnit, tlte percenl.n~rc. Ynu s;tid snnlo of IYtn~lnnF cnnrcr tcns r.nnscd or probnbly caused by cir pollulirnl. Ir tllrrn nny guow :1, lu tc1L:d. pcrcrnl? 1)1.'Ib.nlm. I du uul. Lnre ou}~ ostimnliun rnl Illut, Alr. Tnrncloy. I ihink ILaIt it is enl.ilrl.y pnssihle. 'I'I+rm lrnve btru soulc studies vcllich showed theruLtlavc incideuce:nuocg ur6nu dvrelle.rs asrclalod in rnral Ihvello.rs. ffovv nlue.ll of Llml. cun be ullriLnlcd tamlpletnly lu nir pnL lnlion I nrn nnt ccrhtin. ('erlninly :l pnrll is likely, bnt vve cuuld su6mlt In vnq Ilu, tit`alrsun ILnt. nn 1L+ /1i11':rrnr/- I+Iu nnt tc+cc I6cn1 iuWlc IINi:llfli'I"I'P: 1,:\Iih:I,INI~ th'P 1u\h11't'I:IINti I!IIIJ 91r. F.\alvs.rr. Ilt is uul.lno imporl;fnl. I Ihouhlrl Itvr6alts ull' tllc lop of ~'nnl hcnd yun had nolna ;,u1'onr fooling is Ihal. lobarrn is t morr---- 111114.11 I)r.'I'rtnrv. 'Plnttt is rif;Lt, si r. . 1)r. Ilt~ul4dcr. If I ntigltl, nlnlllify a lilllc hil on IJmINh. Irnru~lec, I lu. rnuuuit.len did nnl pablitll uu)nf ils u\cn esl inlnlcs. Its Ihinkinf; t\:LV ILell if vnu lalfu tulnl lnll;;' rrlnrrr, 1ur c-,,nulplc, u.v 11111 pcrrcld. I Ind. Sf/ la 16 lnrrt.cnt uf it \\-us tllle lo ciRnrcllts, :rnd tll lo `Stl tter+rnl /1-tm irr :1 ir pnllulinn untl ntLcr Llling!s. 'I'hese. tcere ils bnllpark lirntres. I111'. 1~ \ItNRI.h:\. I renlnulLor snulebody said \vLen ILe enrlier rc- pnris runc uuL abnntt nice, tLnt. ntice sholdd nMt smokc. I am con- viuectl I hey shonld not hrenlhe, xt Iwtst in t.ho citics. Ifnn+ is nnolltor ono in Lho llrruld '1'riLune headlinnd yesleedny "t'.nncer Virus '1'hooryi Advouco Ialporind,'> by t1Le anlnn lu:uy I+7n'I I llrcll, st.ienre aditnr, 1'hilntlelpltin. 1rr. 4+u'nl+Nlrwnrl Wns Loru rhn=iu8lhr rirn~rvuf haio:m r:uurr f,.r IG ~rnrs. 'I'hrsc biduglral criluinalu hn.e rhulyd octry 1rnP a'I fur LWou. 1'r:vlrrJaS'. 1)r. 41 ta':vt. rrpnrl ed sho hnd rorltrred u mrtnlier nf Ihe 6n ng In I hr hnt lu oP n h+mislcr. Fur Ihr lirnl: litne, llr. Slewnrf. recuvtrrd it rlrun frum a lnun:u+ uuJil;unncl' IuJrrlyd tuln m+hunl+f tridr'h Ihen Jilvt +rf n Proiiferutinq diwmne. II. IuukrJ lilcr +:mrrr lu uho vuid. :\rlnntlp, Ur- Sl+tcart hud ifivtn har 1'+Irrrl.'I'unvllill In, II Vrlr:dr rmtIIINI ~d ccl/'n/.isln nl. Iho l\'ishlr lu:dilulr Ilrn, bnl tnmrd s.:m sprnnd l.r ar::ninun nf Ih+ Amurlr:w .\ssurLJiun I'nr /'nurrr Ihsrnnq+. ahlrh ynurd 111,11. ~l.Irfdu). Ilrr ,cmic, if roulirn+rd rin+n'hrf~. i'l Ihr, rIu..sl n1,3'6nt1P hn,a rnum lu rnullrln0+~ Ilu ciru. Lhr.ny nf hwu:m rw+rir. 111+ lo umr nri+uliJs h:n+ fonnd Ibrxru~ ul' rll'n~rR lu +miu+aln trl+ioh rulo:. r:ntcrr invhWiuP Ir+uk.min. I4t Slr,v:ui. rclllt IIr. Itcr+Jrc ItiJtlg, teu.v ~q+r af tlre lirvl. lu Iliscotcr n uhiquiluu. nwnsv rirna Ihnt rulwru r:nlrrl. huln;lll 6r~inRn', baf. Ill.ht1'F, iW'llllllnlf In'. Mlltl)", lutrr f,nll:d rll'll,,,t4 Ihpl +1nv'II :+VV:u'rullY du rletl cnunn cnurrr in I hrln. n hile (hey igulle wild grmYi 11 iu lndutnl. unrh as udt'e uud h:nn.krs. AnJ olhrr sciunllul, lulrn Hceu m+drr Itho cl,rlrun wlcrvwrupt, partirlr!e tUnl ,ouk llkr vh'tlsen in l.hc llssne of hulnan cnnucr vlrtimt. IIP lu nmc, wcieulinls jtrlircetl fheY roNd Urnve Lhe cnueer-r:ul.+inl~ Pnwdivi- Ilas nf n rit'nv iu luunnua u+dy h)' in}rAhti; virunrs hJo nrw Lurn hum:u+.. 'I'hnlkuWtv Ihnl. mvr buru unluml. tnar uinsl suurrpliblo to rnurrr rinn:r.. 11r. Kloa" url' nmy I+:+rr rtrr+uurrld+vl Ihnl. 1'r:ui'ul rlA(lirruleul.. ! In tIlis :t Nr6ol11r tlill'1rcnl 16ru1;\' uf 'nn'er nl \cIl:ll is it Ih. Teltltl'. It tt an ecnlvilit; 16ru1'.1'. I know Ille work rrrl' tcell ol 1)r. SloAcart nn+l 1)I'. Iraidy. 'I'ln\' 6ul,h nre euploycll by Ilie I'nl+lir. I feoll It Service nt Ihe Nnl inn:tl I usl itnlns of I lenllll. I 1 hink lhe sttanl;ewt e,videncn i> relnl eJ I o Inld<emin, nnd I Le sl rong nuRhcsl.iou tlla.t. ICIIkeWin nlny Ile tlne In vil'llses. 'I'6ern is one Illint; In rnm:n16e.r in this resmol, nutl tllnl. is Lltat. tvllern virnscs parliripnlet ill llto rnnsal.inn of sulnn disrlsc, or \ehoro they nppcilr fn, Ihcv nnty tsnrk tul,ml llnr witL sumn o1.6er anent to produce Ilte disene:c. (lnrl:llnl,y \re have stro. Ihis snrl uf cvalcnro in "nmr of t.llc exllrr- intontal rcurl( tcht+re aniutnls wvl'e. vnt)je/ded lo inhnl:tiine uf thelrlirul subslnnrcw. \Vllen aniln¢Is lLx\e 6ren expnsetl lo Ilu`e iu6nLdiuu of tI1P4Pe nI119111t'fll subsl auces nnd In the. inthlcuza virnc, I umm' furwnt inu resnlls ih tiunle.ulielnls; trllcrrtls nhen they Lnve 6ecn exlrurrd nnly In Ihe inLn.ln.liou of these snum sul+slnnces or In l1Le inllurnr.a. virns, no Ilunnr forulntian resnlls. Sn 16nt I tllinlc thnM1 w'e Lu.vo lu have Ihn nppreciid.iuu I1n11il. InnA` ho 11/nls u virus uu arrilsluu or it muP I+r Ilm.t nl her sn6anu. 'o:: m:+y :u'I Ilkc rnr;n'riunp~rus ,+r hrll+in~ In lrro/lnrc Ihis,

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IGR ('HlAUb.rTIJ I.AUI:I.IN/r AND .AUCI:ICrISLNU-..lunr Alr. Kwonr:o.lr. 1!ill Illa pr.ullrln:ul viehlY 1Ir. (;,urroue. 1'es, sir. Afi'. KrntNrAInv. 'I'Itca'c i,e nuo ul.hcr lroint 1 lcsull. Lo oul I:c I llol II fu.ilyd lu ulnko a. wllilu tlno, aud thal, is t.6nt I du I'rl.1 vury nlronf;iy Ihld,:nly. n,ct.ion iu 1.6is rur.a ongl)t ho lie taken by Ihe ('unRlr.ss. As Ille cllnir- mnn luo» vs, 1 se.riouay tlnasl.inn iLc atd.Lnril.v of (Iln F'CC :lud I Irel it is a cnngres9ioua.l nuille,r, an,l, of curn,e, if iu Lhr wistloul of Ihis cownlili.em aud Llte (Jonl;re.ss, n.lier henriuF; Ihis fesl.imouy Ihc fee.ling is that sowetlling ueods to lie douo uud shonld be douo, I.lould lie satisfied wit.6 Ille conclusions, lurolvinl; this cnmmilleo nnrl t.hc fair and judicious wny t6at mal.t.crs tu'e 6nudled hcro, 1.cotdd :Irrrl,f Illat, avtninly. Rtr. CAlenEac. 141r. Cllairmnn, I Ino in n,rcrlnenl. willt Ille Kenl Icnl:nl from Nortlr C:u'oliuu. The CnnlnmAN. I hope m,y collr:l(;urs lvill mtdcl:vtnnd thnt. I,cns merelr tryin~, to gct ILese hearings 6:uJc on LLe. Lruck to consider Illr speciho problem thnt. .ve Lave before ns- nolt tlle laugnage, I)ut. Ihe principle thalt is involved iu tlw bills ILnt we L:IVe Uefore us. T wolrld not wunt either oF luy rollcngue.s tal Ihinlc fLnl l lvas atirlnptinR to piu yon dowll ou tuly Kivr,n l:ulglmhr. nr o.nv t{'ivcn ptinc.iple.. It MIs u ~r,enera.l I hougltl. t.hat I was trying W(;r.l.~in Lhe record fnr ow' ron- sitleratiou ort tlm alqlroprinlc Liwe. (1rHainly Ivcnot In mekc il very clenr thnl. I Ilnvn nn inlenl-iou uf tnll)arrassiut hilhcr of ynn .opulting eilller of you on ILe spot. I do pniul16ese qneslions direcl ly at you, becausu in dning sn I think 1I am alortin{; ILe induslay ilsIf to IILe fnct ILat wiflt tlle iutellipqence Ih:dl ilhns mld lvitll Ihe oapabili- t.ios it Las, it. had beller xLurl roming ul) lvitll Mwletlllllg for mn c,ou- siderutiou, tLn.t lvn urigld. I:Lkr ul) wtlh (Ile 1'ul:lin ITrHlt6 5erricei aud 1vil.It (lie Iecrlernl 'I'rade Commisslon and milh everybn(ly else thnl is involved in tLis tLin(;, so Ilml we mit-Lt. r1n Il)e rih)ttI ihiut!. 'I'hnl lvns Llto pnrposo of Ir11' slepl,iu'r inlo Iln rnlluqnp ut f6r lilut, nwl I Lnpo you lv i l l u ndr, rsl n.ud. T lrould like lo sny to uly rullnagnrs Ih21. Lht-rc may errt' lctII hr n resull, whnl/vnr nm dn. LlLUI will 6n.vo. suu,e rcuurnu,ic iuqmel. ou Ia:e industa'y, Lnt eerlaiuly uo onn lvllnls nnnocrssnril} lo ulnl:e Ilnrl1 eennomic impnct. lcnrse. Ifut We nnlsl. nll ruxtguize thalt fhe Lenllll of (lie Nntion is pnra- mount over whatever ecououuc cnnsidarat.ions I.hnt umsl. Le given nl.- tenl.ion. I don't 1l)inlc we cau Imke nny otller posit.ion tecoqnizing 1:Le imporl,n.nce of the economie r,ousequenees, loo. '1'6at. is Ilte rensuu 1.6is is n highly se~nsilive, :1. Lig6ly dillitIdl, aud a Ilighly conlrnversial suLjeal.. 1 know it is n llot pnlalo, Lul)ce :nr f?oing lo ,lo Illr 6rs1 lvecanwil.l.il.. Mr. Nelsen, mlrcolloagur,, is recognized uot ou Iy lo aslc om}' tpte.ctions of I:hcse genlletnen thnt, lie desires, 1)uk hr,forn dniug sn mr lvnldll snggest 1 hat Iu: preseld. ln us I hn r.r.rlninly finr-Inok in~ group nf yonntg pr.oplo 1hnL ltre hnnl;;61l in with 6in1 und~Illnlua :tre su h;qyly lo hntr nlth us Wday. Mr. Ntu.sr.N. Mr. C)airrunn, t.llnnlc you. '1'1)e cl:lss from \Vnrll)- inqton, T1iun., high school group from Worlhin(;lou, T1inn. And I lvould agree willt you, A1r. Cllnirnuul, Ihl.y nre a vc.ry Latlllly aud jood-lonkinh lol. 'Ihe(`.uAntnInN. Nnn~,uloLre+, I I,rrsmnr. CUAllli'1'TL; 1AnlII.INIi ANI) :1n\'1?liI'hIN:; ~-1nUF 61r. Nrlsv.n. I:uu sw'c., nud I ulig6l. 'nlt n lil(Ic cuminereial iu llr.m. H'n>;6iu;;lou, t\lis,+., is lulou ns Illc Tmkey cnl,ilnl r1ul of I,ite Slnle, nokof Lhe Nation, bnt nf I.Ito 11-urld, nnd ILis Rroup fuadc 16is l.rill to \1'nshiupdou In ci,it onr N:diun's l'apilnl nwl h:mr brcn orcr un ILn Iluu~n Ilo::r lo tt,l In gel nf lill.le uf tlt(- nlmo,,l)llern ol' om' le-isl:dire Lnlly, :uul wc :vt rcry happy In u-:Irnlue t.he.ul he.re.. I mil;ht allvise Ihe group Illal Illis Ilrnrinl; uln,y go au for some time, 6ut feel free to get np a.ntl leave vhen yoa aant to, bccnuse I Irnoo tltere are m:uly I.hings you lvislr to see, nnd don't. I'rel pan n.rc disl m~Lin(; us. 1Vc osl,rt.t, ihal. yua ,cill lcnuli tn visil. o/l,tr potuls here in 1.6e N al ion's (':rpilal. NIr. Atclm Icxds Ihe gronp, nnll Alr. Nrl~nu. 1Yn arlruln: nnybo/ly Irom ILo Swoud I )isla'ict. For Lhe infornr.l.l.ion of Ilte I;roul,, I nul sure ily nnucun will senso thnl. (Ite Lexring is on l,i)c.l6rr nr uot.. Lhe Ivedcral 'I'rndo Cnur- missinn or 1.6e Con!,nrss shauld pinee u lebhl un ci;,rnrelle pacirn(;rs, indi<atting Ih:dl it m:ry bo n huiard to Lenll.lt, so now at lirc uluurent t.lle disc.us5ion scrms I.o be ,rllriJlcr it slmnlil sny ib mny he nr sl)nll bc,bnt:ulynne--- I'he('llAUtnlaN. Alnybenris. 111r. Nnasr:x. 111n1' Im ur is; yrs. 'I'haulc you, Mr. l'll:,irmnn, for rrrogniriu(; lur. I Itnve no ILrl.6rr rourmeull rolnlilr. L: Ihr t.Inss, Lut I mi,rllt sny In 1.6e wil.ness, I)r. 9'trry, ILe Snr.,ron ficncrnl of tlte IJnited titnles, is liro lvitnres nt Ihr moment, nnd 1 uli ld poini rnd, R'fr.'1'crry, ILnt T um sure yon knolc tLnt one of Illt 6ills Ihnt. ne havee before us is my bill, and itt is my suf;t*esl.iou IhnlIl,c pncks he Inbr7t~d to i»dionl.e t.ltnt Idlr, ci;-urelle nuty be injnrinns tn hrnlllr, msowelllin{!IntlwtefTecf.; 1 lui-,61. also furtller n:lll Illnl. I foel IlLis i,i n ron,Lre~'~iuunl rrtil/nn- sihilil.y, 2nd Illullcn rL:ndd svlrrlnl):Ilrvrr l:o Ih: :blieili"u m ~ Iho Inugunlmr, to I'o on thr. pnrlco,~r, ::nll Illul. tcr allsn urr :I lillI: bit jrnlou~ nf Lntr f:rl' tcn pl.rmil' a rrgnl:rlnl_1' :r,mney to uuil cr faol wov should luerl, mn rrsponsibility in fhe IrriisLd.iee llrnrr~::. I:on sntc, t.lL:d, you lconld ncvepl. I:hnt if Iltafbe tltr .ltht,rucnl nf Ilul ( 1ongrrss. I have ne queRtions, Mr. 'I'crt;p, hut I lcnnt to «'elcane you u9ein llrl'ore onr rommit.tee. 'I'Imrdc,you. T)r.'Pv:mn-. TlmnIc yml, Mr. Nelsen. '1'LeCrlAUtraAN. hll. Rn.lierfield 8 DI n S+rrteurrrl.n. '1'luutk you, l41 r. (16:urmnn. Before I imgin, T wmdd like Lo refer briefly t.o tLe tnllnrplv Illnt. .Ptst otmu1'ed, t)ecause. I nm a new Mtmlml oi Congress an,l :1 new mcmUr.r of Illis tmmnit.lee. T mm IT . lawyer, T mm nnt n doclnr or :I scient.ist, bld. lllme mro semn thingN nl)oultLis whole sihrnlimt flint Ilist.urh me. 'I'lte CIInuIatAN. Wollld flle genl:letunll permit me nl Ihis poild,- 111 r. SA-rrl:ru1nar.u. 1'es, sir. '1'lle flunrunr..N. 'Pllr ~.enl.lrlnnll is n relntivcly new A(endur nf tl)e. ( nn,rvsc, nml of tnnr~n nf this ronm)illre, l)ut. I 1vooL1 likr In t.lmt. Lhe genllr.mnn is nnl1 rnl.irrly a slr:ut(,mr to Ir~islnl.ivc l,rnrrrllin;,:w hrrurt'l Ihc !'rn(Irmiut'µ ilnd ~rrvrll in ILr. Counrc,< :unl I Imll Ihr

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-l'l.ll llnfAl16:1"I'IA t.AIIIIIJNII AND NIVL:It'I'ININli-11105 Tfr. lennrh. Sir, I6o(is a s,.ieolilic qaeslinn, hnl. T tvonld sa.y nry sric`hl ilic frien:ls don'I. nhreo tvilh ILsI. 9'Icqy bllieve Ih:d, mn5t lu'n'do tclco smalcn ripnlrellrv iuul krr 1 on smnLinri them iujurn Ihrir 6enllh in solue tra y, bol. l,y no means a~l. Tir. Itomnes of Pexas. Somr, of my se.ienlilic friends gave tue t6o slatemtut I jnst m:cdn, Ihat a;,reat. nnljority of the people cuv not af- feeled by ILem. Rul, yon do feel tLen 6ernuat mnny people are not affected by lilem, tLc`re nu;{hl. not Io Iro auylhinti done tcilh rrg:vd to b;nucing I6rm 4 TTr. Foorr. I also feel, Mr. Itntiers--I lived Ihrourh one prolliLil ion, and INrnnld not wenl. lo livo Iln'oegL e. ceeond prohibitinu. I Illink il, is .cronl; aml ;ln un-American tt'tty a F hnmlling the problem. 11Ir. Itoerl:s or'I'exas. 'I'llen yumr sLtlemmlt boils dowu to tbe propo- sit ion, Ti r, Fnolo, (Imt. yon fee.l Ill:tt. ILe Congress I mght to reqaire cao- tionintg in advertising of a pralucl. Ihat may or may not hurt, your llealtll~4. ' Mr. Forvrr.. '1'Ind nmy or mny nol. lmrt Ilco ]tealth of a given individ- nnl; sir, yes. Mr Roar:a.e of Texas. Yes, Illnlt is riFLt. Yon feel--do yon feel, nmv, to go a lillle fortlter,t.hat. Ihis omhht to lbe Hto provinre of tllo Cnmgresa of the ITnited Slyde.s, etee.ted by the people, or of the Federal Trade Cncnmission? Afr. Fon,re. \Vcll, if I Lad my drulLers, T woultl r:tilLet have Iho Con,rress do it. Atr. 1'tometcs of Texxs. You believe in onr form of government, don't yoo, TL.. Fool o? Afr.Toorr (1FeonrseTllo,sir. 111r. lionr.ccv of'Pcx:cs. Ancl the Io.e'islulivr prnlmsea by dnly elerlntl repr:rsenlnlives of 1Lo pr.ople,? And Ih:cll is Ihe re:1son 1 have some cnoso for tilarm in yonr sLdemeol, lche.rl'e yon sa,y t6nt yoa llopo Con- Rress tcill nn1.1ro5s any bill in prevonl Iho Fedetul'I'r:tde Crnmuission from doinRsomelhing;. Now? you andrrsland ILo issne is lo somn extent, as lo who Lns Lhe aret;el.liu~ clcallen~ecl aall:orlly to pass laws iu this nomllry. Aull we ulorn ove.ty lley by thesnlmrraas Itud hourds. TIr. Favl-le. \VhelI meant, Atr. lio,rrs-tve soy horo vve nrt.m ILo speelly enaltmont of legislation Ir.lplirin,r henlth tienrninr*s in Iwtll Ilco advnrlisin;,-hnl Nvhat, we menn lo suy, luld I think it, is rnlLer clear, sir, is if Vou do uot, eLoese t.o rnecl. :c wmoinl; lev4slation, a vt'cu'tlinq in t6o ndverl isin,q, at, lenst you won'1: pass a law to block somebody else from doing il, like tlte FTC. Ttr 1',ooracs of'1'exns. SYell, ,yon don't take the position, then, that theT'I`C ltns a rigllt to passlaws, do you? Mr. Fou'ns. 1\o We are nols Iryiag lo tolre it le{;al posilion. \Ve lulr~m w6nl. Il:e N'IY` hnc clone.. An:l tcc`o ienoLl marh ralllar lnlve. C'mr gress :lo it.-possilrly not, for Ilcc s:nue rr;lson thnl. pon would, sir, tvo know if you pft~s a hnr, it will go ildo elfcc.t.. Ii ILo T'1'C issnng tt rel;nlalion, as Mr. I)ixon snid laxt week, it. might bo 4 years in tlle courls Alr. Rrx:h:rzs of Texns. Mr. Too1e, yon say, then, ihat. accordingeven lo vo;u' srirulists :ucd Voucuelf, ILati it noald be wrrnm to Lnn rira- rcllr,, 6rr:msa Ihrrr. is emuuLrr of people whose hrn11L is not n ITrrlrtl, aull it wnulcl nnL t~ive I hr.ul huq~ rancr.c'. CnlAllli'I"1'I! IAItP:I.INII ANn AU\'L:ICI'Iti1N11 11165 22 TTr. FIN1'I'F. WII:II I scid, Alr. Rop{rcv, is u::obsl:ntlial nmldmr o Imot,ln ,rba>:e In`all Ic nl,l,:crv'nl Iy iw nut utforleJ -yes. AIr. tt:wm:e., of 'I'r%as. \'rr: Itnl ,You %c:nll lo reyuirn 16e Imnpl who sell Ilcal. prodod. In pnlnLlatemeut in thrir nclverlisin-,- ann as 1 tmdersl and I he. Fede.ral Trade Cumnl ission, I lley' want t hal sl al e meul, to lie IhnlI i[ you smoke cit;arettes, yoo are liaLle to die of Ian en.ocnt 01' some ot Ler d ise.lts~, Nfr. Folvrr:. Well, I onderslood Ttr. 1)ixun lo s;ty Illat. the .vonlin "-as ra/ her 1;:'aterol. l f you tris6 to know, sir, 16e, lypo of tvonlin}; tc prefer i° not like, t hnt.. ftll'. ItIMlP:Itti /lf'PI`.Y;15. `VY.Il, tvlad kind do von prefer? Afr.Fulvna. The.re6aveLeenantuolwrofllill'eronlKUrResliotwmadl '1'lle one tlmlt lce currcally [avor is rather a siotple oue- /°11'arnin-v The eonlinned snlokin;,r oF cigaretles is a serimts lleallh hazard" Mr. ltn(1F.ItV oNPOX715. IS 1 SCl'lI1lI8I1GlIHl IIn87ll'/l t Atl'. I' otl'I'R. Yes. Atr. R::oensof'Pexns. f)rwnyheasnrinnshcallhLazlu'd? Tlr. Fl,crrlt, No, it is:t Ilaz;urd. We don'I SOy it Icill iujnrc.yoa. lmzalyd is solnclllin~ IholM tnny or may ¢ol, iajun' you solmrUliap, Ilr is danrec7nts. Alr. Kccrr,:: of 'I'ezns. Well, hcd Ihrrr orv. s. bd nf Itrolde nol Il.cell rllurnled, yon Irauw, nnd tLov dnn'I l:nmr ILi. ploy on l,onl Yon h:nr. tn ~I,rll it out. :\rlnall)', tt~ltnt yoq nnl;ht lo su,y is Iloct. II, inllalal ion uf 19t[:11'PI II's Illay IN Inl%:11'll/llts, \Ir. I~orvn<. No, 1:l~in't t6inlrso,sir,may 11l.Il yon1cIly? \fr. ol"I':Na~. loa,vir) plr. I~n~rre. \\'hrn Ihr :1olrrL:ul \Ic'Jir:ll .\=cnLt/imi tnr:IV iu ~Frnnri~;ru, lo:'t ln~.l \i.:u, :uul I6i'lr Luu=~ oC ~Ivlr:~.ylr,.: onuniunar. :::lid 16n1 riqrrllr ~Inul:iu~ is n~rrinus 6onll6 h:v~tnl l,erilul pnl '1'L::I i:; rn'nl ruon,Clc for mo. ;\n~l 1IcnaLl nul. lenul Io =nlnllciu:,Io::nlL:m tL::l. ;\ml lhat is tchat.lhrt~:cill. IA1r. It:Ha:n~ of'I'rats. 1V'rll, Ihr Autrrirnu Alnlic;cl :A~snrialinn noNr, ynlt c: unll t n I urn I Ili:( iucrnumut ovrr / n LLc'ac? Alr. Nn. I1fr. Ror.r:r,s uf I d:,n't ml,lrrslnml Ihi::, uontcLy dich~ 111r~' 1:13 ' rillvtr iuwhin;r cUnl:'rrannd it, Iheil' Irvlilunuy" i nnd thn Smpeuu I4~nrrnl'~ Icvlinmuv il, un:l ocrr~~h:ulv el~r'.v Irv;i iunalry i~, Ihul ilis Il,e iuhnlnliun of IIcr. ri,urrlle il~l~`If Ilml I hey rloi;r:utv`s 16e dnmage. Alr. Fuart:. 1u their rr~:alalmm, Llu'1' did uol (14, inlo tlnd.dclll i Thcysniditisasrrionshonllhlucz:u71-porirol -poroyTrnpl:. 'I'6nv ulsn ~oid Illey o:lcisel :Ill TLl).'s to Innl:e 16e facl. Icnoo n I, ovrrv :tvu ilable mrnns of rnamnil'td inn, Plr. Ilnatats uf 'I'esns. 1'rs. 1\'ell, notv, llon'I. vnn 16inlc if wr lin, IllrlIiuvc Ilfl onl ts,n;rl6int(, t) ruuCld turnrrrrl il? Alr, Foal'h :\florrnn"ull:clion 1cillllrocim'. I:rirnli:II :,1 t% "nl'lll;j uI so, )'r;. 111r. lt'oeeav of 'I'rxns. :1ud yon Ihinlc 16:11 if lLr1' lel't unl riv;u- :md pipetilmdciu![,IhrnlhrlcuqLl lninrlodrllmt iu lltis? 61r. Fon'rn:. I ton rlnr, ~il', Ihe hoot-tl' of clrll`;,mlc's llill not lonve Ihll onl by nrridrrnt. 1 nm atu'e I Incl. lcas ILnrnntclJy l~onsidrroil. Atr. Tlx:ns nf'1'c.:cs. I 1Lnvev ervhr hron :tl,lr I nt4:d iyfl - my mcn utilul TFr. Fnolo, on IIcis s~itu:lliin; A nn nsl:iq,+ Ih:cl Ilu' r-i;^crrNr In~. t l~l

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14 CIGAIII1T'1'IS LAIIFIIdNI: AN11 AhYl:IL79hl1NC-19116 4'!46 I)n Ihc dher hnurl. it.1+n rrnsunnhlo nsunnlpl.lun Ihnt a rrdueliuu Iu iho fnr nml uirul Inr toulvul. lvntdd le nnrne nxtrtrl, rndtlre Iho IIkelihlwd thnt nnlnking wIll rneull. iu n(Ivrrw, henllh effrrlw, rsperlull,v rmlcer. 1t wonid nrrm Ln un, uh Iminure, Ihnt tho Irnat cmuxe would ho to mltJlnrix, Illlt Itlrt llll'l4't, t111N Ilrlnll'InnIlt, 1111111`I' Illr. M}Ylel'lll lfll'/.nl'llnllrl {R11IrIa111/Yn L:Itll1. Inu Art, lo rrquire Ihnt inhelhtg nf rlgurelln nurknFes nnd ttmlaluern offereJ for sale to cuusnnlers Inrlnde +t nlntelmut uf Ihe nvernge ylclfl nr olher Indrx nf lurrhuinfwl ui;eutn femul lu thc amoke of ri,arrl.len nunlninod iu I+nrh Pncknl;C or rnolnincr, if Ihe :krrMnl',Y lk9erurinrs Ihnl ml intlrx, hnwd nn n Pnrtic.nlnr melhnd whirh hu sUctille+l, cnu r,nutouulrulr Inl'oruml.lnu tm Ihe 1,11,18 nf whirh the cuoxnlnrr cnu mnke menrlingful chrrirrA. \\'o wntrld remmklend th+LL Ihe 8rcretnry also Ine given Uexllrle nnthority tvillt renprct to n'kirh Pnrllcnlnr fn- crOnhlnteli ngrntn (or, in ihe enue of Inr, for ernmplr, whnt cnurponlte of nqenlA) shull be rapurrd to hr. ninted in the Inhrlint;, nud to rlspdre n:mlufnrturrr.a to let ns hnre nnd verify nlty infnrmutinu lhcy hme ns tn 1nt;rlsllcutn (hu9adhlg nU- dllirev) in f.he tuhnrcu nsed by tlrrm nr In sntnke frurn nurh lehnrr.n. 5. AA nhuee InJlrnleJ, nnt nnly would 1111. :11114 prerent any reFlllntnry sgrw:Y froul iutpa+hlg at Inhrl wanJng reqelrvnlcut ulhcr llum lUut Druw:Nllell lu Ihe lrill---n pnulliun which We rnnAhler teo iollesihlr.-brlt the bill mnkes 110 pruviAlou fur imPleulo.ullug reglrinllons In nsPrv4 to the cautionary statenlent thnt ft rnlutlrn. If our nbnve nlentiun(sl rncnm:nendnllnnn are nenephvl ns to Ihe ntllryLliliJVn 1'fnllPllt nf ihL` legINhlllrlll It IS PI8I11 tlnlt IIIIIy n regnlntnry ot,mncy could ellrr,V It nllt. \/nrrpver, elV`Il 1f Iln,4r r(vtullllllelllhltirllln \rere ll/lt flrlif/well nnd ihe pllrl.c wnndug, its sir.e,'nnd Its hsallnu ou Ihe pncknqe wern to he npelkvl ont hl tke sun.lua lu thc exlruL Prnridrd ill Ihl. 1,111, furlher 0uplelnentn- tluu, nn ncll ns Dulirinti, h)' n reltulalul:v ngl.nrY truWd crenl to lie dnslrahle. 6, Finally, Il]t. 3911, ns nbnve shtdvl, wonld lleny nulhorily to tltc k'edernl '1r:uln fluunniAAlun In requlre the In.4usiun, Ill rup' mlverlinrnlent, of nny shtle- mrnt eourerning nny hnznrd 1'o hen111L InvolvM iu mnkinR cignret.lec whnre I:hn n+lverl.irrd eil;nrvllrs hnve IAren porknned In runfnfmlly with thr Llheliun prnri- Atouv nf Ille bi1L '1'ho hrdernl 7YnJr CnmutiAPion, in Its trndc rrelllullon rule, has Pllerilirnll,v in- vitrd Intere.vtnl Pltrties to upply fur Ann1Ansion, modi6cnllon, ur nbrognlimt of ti:e rlllu wilh re.+pe,'t to nrlrrrliniug o[ cl>;Itrrlle.v InI\rn: iln eQrntlve rlnle II'.:henm- etnncen hnve nnillrlenlly chnngrd--+nu1 this ruuld hrrhlde conslderntiou of tlle elffCt llf label n'ill'lllll/t5-{o jI1At.ify Nllrli nLIiOU In Lhn pnhlie Inlerevl. We tlo nnt Lclirvu IhnL Ihu pn611r hrallll tvulrhl be w,4I w'ved by alrlkhtg from lho Gnntln of Ihe k'ed(knq'1'rntle (1.rnnni=Fion the nul.huril)' tknl. ilH nsnerts. 7. 1Llt, a(114 aull 11.IL -IIS17 dellne Ihc Irrm "ri/;nrclle" ns "nlq' rull uf Inlmero nr olhl.r nubslnor. lvrnPped In pnlAr ur in nny nnhAlnnrr ul.hrr Ihnn tnlulrru, Itnu tnlrwlv,l for muukhlg." iblulPhawtn uur".l 'I'hr rrfcrrnrr to "olher suhxlnnrl: lunc br niwoll nl po..aiLle snlrAillulr.u, hul thrrl is nn infurnmlion nu 1n Ihrlr hrnllh lo:znrd anmp:lrnLln In Iho Infuruudiun uA Lt Ihe hn:::uvl of "cinnretles" ht Lhrir necclilod Arnna. ll.lt. 48.14 drllnc.v tl "r`iunrc/ir" niml+ly ns "luhv!co rnllyd hl pnl.:l of +uty nuucrial hut. tuhnrrn." Mnr the nLuve-.vlnlyd rrns:mP, We (nvur IrgiPlnliuu nlnug Iiln nhnve-snggcwtrvi Ilucu irl view uf lhlsr bII1A iu Ihr{r Inrne:dl fornl. VVr Phondd Ile glml I:e work wllh the r'aulmlllre trr Plnli lu Ihe eurl (If rarryiull oet onr rermumeudnllnus if thr lonlmi I lare xhullld su drxhr. 1\'e :tru n+lvi.ed by Ihv Ihurnn of Ihe Itu/lkrl Ih:tt there is nn nb,/ecl.hrn to Lhe prc.rutlltlr'n of ILiv rrpnrt tl'uln ihr 1IIUIdP°Inluf IJIe mhniniAtrnll'niv prniilvnu- Ainrrrely, A Ni nonx .T. (Ira.r.unrarl::. Rrarr(nrN. (unsi nAl. 1'annl i. ur 'r ne: I Iltau'rru.v'r oe Unlu.uatos, llnn (IneN Ilnnlus,II'rt.rhiugfnrL D.C., APrif 7, l9fifi. - , dlminunn, ('unnnnn luh'r.rlrrfr rrnd Ibn'i.rn I'u:nrrr'rr, Ilnu.vr u/ C,prr ncufnlinrx, Ifuxhin,rllnn. 11.(, Dr:An Nn. (lrrnrunrnn:'rhin in In ftlrlhrr rrfrrrme to ynnr rMnest f,-r Ihr vletrA of IhIA lrrp:lrinnnI trilll rralrrrl le Il.li. :nll~l :lull 11.1t. ~I/NIS, IAr'nlL.nl billu tn rrgpLdr Ihr I:Ihrlior: nwl ndvrrlb:ioc nf rirnrrllr'u, n:d fnt' olhrr 11nr- pn:u:: ::n,1 11 It 1'.'II, n Id/l I.. u:,id, 16 I - . I I I I, _I + I Cl(LVIF:1'TF] LA111lldNll AND A13\'P:IfPIfilNfl--196:r 1 15 they mlly Lo dnnGeroUA to henllh oud to Ahew the ldrotlnc nnd Isr cnnl.nt M Ihe CiHnITIICA In eea.h Pnrknre, 11.1t. So1.4 mu1 ILIt. 41N17 wunld uluke 11 u erhulrull uReusr, suhjrrL un enn- vlclaon lu n unlxhumn linn o[ ~.111.1Nn1, fnr nny PrrAOn in lunonfnrhlrr, InlPnrt, IIC PIIrIWI;o fnl' P:IIe OI' dlnh'ihlliinn wllhin Ihr Ihllled RIIIIrA or for AhlPmeolI to ILN. urililurp vennelA or xhurrvhn>+rJ nrllvlilrx, nlly clMnl'1II1:4 Ike pncknt;l nf whloh, inrlnlling Parlr, hux, rnrlun, ur runbrhrrr of luly kind In mldch cign- rdh~s nre nlTetts) for slde, 6d1A lu hcm' fhc xlulrureut, lu uul. lrus Ih+(11 n1s4-llled elvel DI'hd, "~nntlon: Oigm~eltc Slwrltlug ~I:ly ISe IhlLllydolrs to Yolrr tlenltil:' The hill ulwl prnvkkw thnt nnlhhl/l therelu ceuinloed s11n11 be rUI1ALrllell ln liulit or esPnnd lhe nltlhot4f3' nf the FtxlrfnllPC Il ~rlmislrnrliugvndvrrliisement oC to tinr llilacullunlinn in cunuucnv uf an)' rlgnrnLteA, Vrnvillyd thnt the (lonunIsniou shnll nol huve nlllh..rlty to reqrrlre tlln inehwinn In nny ndrerLiAement uf nny Atuta,mnnL romrrnhlR nuy hazard the enullfoulPtntenuvlt prrqnril vl tll ~ rr ils i, 1tMInrl:her1ethethi llwl'uld 1'rl"'n 1't' Itl e Ilrltl tvith reulsort ln rnlllinu slolemnldA lu Iho InbrllnR nnd ndverl.IslnB of rlgnretteP. ll 7l. 4241 Pruvldtw thnt cignrcltrv Phnll kr reusWereu to he mlAhrnudld nnlnan each mntc"ensmmrl l+l+a ~ngnltni onlils onlvhhklnlllenr~thdphle,lnmlrlllnhd)' ltvisllrl. tile prhlt (1) ntile u Int2oLI:R'arningr (}mlenfefAlny tlSei111nngrrmAftoglhvrll~°nThe lutrkngr; (2) hiil nlwr pluvldrA, 1]t l:ubvhtnrc, lhnt thc Yrtiernl 'frnllc /]mm~dAximi shnll nd- udnlAlrr null vtlfnrvc Ihe prnvisinus lhrrtnf Inltlrr rnles, rrgalnliouA, and Prt/' nvhlres PruvhlrJ fm' In tlle Flvlclnl 'rrnlle t'omwiAAlun Act nn thonRh the nplrllrllhle IrrnlA nnd Prorivinus of Ihut urt werv htttrrpnrnllvi Inle Ihe nnll nulde a PH+'l uf llli.v h111. Plm t'onuolIuleu IA nino nuttlnriaerl In (t) ruuee Innlnalinll., +lllnl}'.rn, Ira.., nnd rxnnilunliunA Ir/ bC mnur ef nlq' elFnretJrw whirL il hns rrnwru Ir. hrlirvr fall q'illdu Ihv Pnd11b11{unA pf Ihc bi11; null (2) to :dlopralle nrl umllcl'a rclntod lu Ihe PurP^"" ^f Ihe 1,111 trllh +uly Mrdrrnl, StuIG ur IIP'nI nti"urp, ur tvillr m1y Inruuu. (lue hnnir uhJtrIlve nf enrh nf Ihvsu bllls is Lhe snme: t.o Prnlecld tlre henlth ef cnltnumPra nnll presprrlirr ror:PlllmvP uf cll;arelttw. I1J1- 1k111 uml lllt- 41N)7 hnrn Ilu: nllltiLiuun1 Ainll'rl nL.b"'Iivc nf Prolat UIR t'r'mmrrrc nwl lhe nnlionnl rrvntnlny. \4kile we leullid urdinnril,v .Lrmlgly Pnl9nlrl. hnlh nby+'I.Ives, We frel Illat't fnr Ihe rravnnx hrreinnilrr slnlyd the Pr'nPr'ne'1 11uvn1P of ntlnhdng Ihe Intlrr nhJcrlicr rn:ry Lr IlurunlNlllhle w1t11 Ihe 61m11.i1 Prnlrrllna nb]rrllce. Ihnlor vor6 rtrrllulslnnrrA wv hrlirrr Ilml Ihr ptlldir 111:dllr inirrrvlo rnnst In'rvail. '19u lrlnnt uf ILc Aqrl.ur)' IbWnllll,r lo Ihe NurKrutt /lrrnrnl ul' Ihr 1'ubllr llrallh S rnirrbn Plnnithlg und he:Jlh (ivvurd launnry 11, 1!Illl l nm,1o a nua:brr nf tlnl:liloll tindinks willl 1'lAIAn'1. lu Ihr hr:lllh ImznrJ:: of rllarrllrA nud emo- rltuilvl Ihnc "1'iPalvLle arookiug is a hrnitil hnxnnl uf Anllirirul imisniunrl in tha Ihdierl 81nIcA to wurnult npprnprinte runedilll uclinn." "Itelorl'hrl nclinn" wnP Ihoroltfler prnniptly iniiinlvd. (hr 1''ebruary 2% Ifllli, Ihe flnfkrnu @ouernl Alloke of a 1/1-yrnr-DInA progrnm hc ruvh:ngr+: 'lve In'e, alnling nl: n Prat;r:un a prevention--fnllurelnn Ihe trndi- lien:ll :wd time teslell Publir hr:lltll upprns,'ll -n Vrngnun aiultvl nt Orevenlin6 Ilnl hubit lu-fnre II is nvtnhliAl:nd. '1'hiA turtlns n P+'"/:rnln nlun'A nf. )'otmF peoPin IronnFrrv nud yono{rt1'. 'I'hls nlrnoA n rrurtu'rh prul:rnul nin:rd nl Jrrvl- ephlH n cnfrr ril'nrrllr nu,l uihrr vnGr lorur. I,[ luirnrrn nvr' 'fhc Nlrrgor'n (:rnrrnl nlvu ulplke uf roulimliug rr::rtu'rh; runprrnliuo a'11h mnJ'o' vuluulmy hanllh un.ncirA nnd Profeusinnnl ~In9rlir+: renl'rrourr plnnN nf Iko I'IIIIJnlis 15111rnn; n Nnlinnnl I'Icnrlnt;hnnxr uu Nmwklnt; :uIJ Ilrnllh fnr puh6v e+Incnliun pnryusrs; nnd nI;ulalan'y Pru(;rmoP of nlhrr k'wlerni ngrnrir~. Iln ADril?7, 1!Xii, thn rinatr4lo rnmp:urirA nuuuun.vvl Ihe ('iknrrllr A/1vM91:'- Inn 1'lelr lrhlvil P+'"""'Ihril rnlunl:u-) >InudurtN In r111ni1mlc nllverllnInR nud prnulul.innel nrlivllirs In Ihrlvr kruerltl nronn-(1) teuuing in lnnkc vir,nrel/e raunkln>; n/lrurllvr in lulnnrAI (S) hr.'lllh rrlrrr.wnlnllonA: itll 1'olnmsenlnllons nn I.. Ib,. qnanlily of :ut Bn:''"'lirnl lo Lr funud ill Ihr AmeL: nf n tIgnrrlir, uulr::. snrll roiu'osrnlntiultn :u'r .inuili,nnt1 in lcrntn uf hrnlln ul.d hnAl,d nn ndrlllnlr, ralrtnul. nud tlulill ,.rirnlil6- didn, ur Ihe rrPrr,+,ululiuus urr orrnnr pimi,vl bc n:+nliv.l':n.lrp Jl.rhllu,rr n.+ li' Ihr :Innlllrnorr Ihrr,nl' In Irr:un ef honllh.

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zzs CIl1A1IN7"r12 LAnI:I.INl7 .1N11 AUVP:ICPIti1NC-1665 mhnrl iso aud s:,y 16at "1Vn ;nr. adtrrl i~iuh n nudocl/lulll is tl. seriolw 6ca11.11 h;lr:u'd," 6n1. Illu.o snuln paoplre ran ntlvrri.ivn Ilipn lol,acvo, Or t.hey cnu s.dverliso cil,qrl's Ifudnre smolced in Ihc snmo mntlnrr Ilnt.t, ci;;;uellos are, yol yun luro not askinh for nuy re.fcreuce to 6en1f11 on tllnl.. 11[r. T'uunc. 11, is nll :1 1nalLer of de,{rre, sir. Yipes nnd aignt:s, ttceotding In Lllis doc.ununt (holding up Smgenn (1nnernl's rnpnli), wlliclt wc IN:lic.ve in, injuro oot.lting like the plvlporl.ion of 1)cnple I Il6t. cigarel.lcs d<). Mr. linsrstts of 'lbxas. Wnnldn't. Lhat., tLunRlt, be lilcn ss;yinr /lud, yon have f.llrco 6osinesses :tll llcoliug in fLr- su.lno hasic (>mducl., ;uld you ;un asking one of I hcm lo buy n rope to La n;; 6 imsul f tV11.1L 7 11[I'. ll'l>,rrr;. I don'1.l.6iulc so, sir. A{I'. P<anats of'I'exa.s. You don't think sn4 Mr. Flsrr. No, Ixxausu 1 thiulc 1,110 busimIss--it will bo in existence a long l.ime euywxy. I f I mny sny-in oor cowroil, we INrlievee thnt the lobacro pe.ople llavn certoinly a Ie.rnl rih6t Io n.dverl.ise, bnt not n 11101,111 rikrht to adccrtisecif,.;treLlos ut 1,6in 11n.1' ;utd age. Mr. Roamts of Texas. Well, then following out your conclusion, yon wotild thr.n reqnire tho pcopln w`lo SI:II sleel/InRg pllls to also llnve a cmlt.ion on their aclvmlksinj, tlutt if you tnlco too many of tlleso pills, yon miglltsleep too lon gP Mr. Fuo1m. Sir, I knotv nol.hing u6on1c slceping pills. I wolild simply say if slenping pills were killinfi off around 250,(N10 American people n year, I ILmlr all kinds of IsLint;s m ikht 6nppen. Mr. H,mo:lw of'I'exns. :lround what? Tlr. FuurH:. Around 2:,f1,111H1 Tlmt, is wlmtt nnuly experts believe. Mr. Hualans uf'1'exns. 960 million? llfr.Flurm_ '1'ltonsond. Mr. CAniv, lt. Will the speaker yield 4 I would like to ltenr the hnsis of that i u formation. Mr. Foo-re. '1'he hnsis of whnt ildormntinn4 Mr. (7Arcrr;n. 2fi0,000 penple n year. Mr. Fnorr. Well, Doctor, thls should not. colno as too great a snr- prise to you. Dr. Weudoll Scolt. testitied Insl. yeur IHfnrc tllis oommil.irr, and snid 600 de;It.Ls n tln,y were c(lln to cif,+arnlde smokin g. '1'hntt is 21A,(100 a year. I)r. il4orton I.. Lovin, in llts lesl imoqv, wltidL kas been sub- lnll.ted here, Lnil n figure of caose to a ryuurte.r of n millinn. I)r. Imuis Katz, speaking for the American llesrt Associntion, used a fifiore of 260,000, in the Senuto Commerco (Snnmitl:co testimoqy. And so did lh. Carlisle for the American Cn.ncrt Soeiety, sir. No one said tLey c:ul tell you an exncl, nmuhmt 'I'6at is u. rnmge tlsed by tlte Amer- icnn Cancer Society ond corlnin spolresturn for LLe American llrnrl; Associ,d.ioni lA'll. (~Alt'1?:n. '1'Ilese 1U'e nlI )tlst estllnnles witllollt n.lly nctllnl I1118is. If you want to rrul Ille ren.l lif;ures, we hnvn t.hem rit,r6t. Lrre on our sl.nlislics re orl. You can sco fram Ilmt, in 1962 at, lenst, t.6ere wern ]H,0(H) drnt~ls dno to printn.ry lun;, cancer nt.ttibtdnll by smte tu ci0nrel te slnolcing. Thoso a.re facts. 1[ero I lLny are. I will bo glarl to sullmit Itlem to yon. Mr. Fwrns. 1 knnw Illrnl rer.Y well, llr. (!nrle.r. And uobody in tlm Auouicnn t`nnccr 5ncict.y I:IkIti Itsorino:.ly. CIflAItPTr'1'P. LAIn:IdNti ANI) Anl'Rlt'rISINII -11168 221) All. CAnrr:n. 1Vcll, I nm sorry Lhey don'I, lakn I.hn reords of Ihe 11 S. 1'nblic l lcull.h lHo.rticc serinusly. Mr. FlMrrl>.. Nol, ns n t llal tunnbe.r of tlcallw, sir, Protlnced Ly ciga- rr.lle4 smoking. Afr. CAlrrlsn. Well, Lhis is slatell Lett`I.his whnl: }'on are slntinl; is nn assloupl.inn or ,wlinmfr by somn inditidon.l tl-ho Ilns no nccornln wnyofknowinR. Tllal. is nll. ]19r. 12naxuts ofexns. Sou nrn saying the Americnn (;nneer Srsirly usesnnly ligmes ilt agrees wi/ h? Mr. Fnorl:. No, vir. 'I'ln, . Anlerirnn Cancer Sntiely 6ns s,eolf ntaybc millions of doll:lls doing rru:uah inl.o these mntlrrs, nm~ Ihcy havn li/;nres whir.lt they hllievn to lie correct. They are not cnsonl as- 511111f>t.lons. 'lYteY-- A7r. Runats of '1'exns. 11'ell, do tLcy sup~)nrt Ihis prnposilion to rvquireull uldomnLileslo 6aee fuluon.rreslors'.t M r. FI n rrts. O f contsn nol-. 111r.Rox;ensnf'I'vsns. '1'6l;ydon'l.slq.t,orlil- flirrllncricnn('nwmr Society? Dlr. Fulrrr:. Altloronbilcgttllnl? Mr.litwtam nf'I'exas. '1'u Itsce,:ureslotsof I hc fmues. Mr. Fborr.. 1 leg yom j,ardon. I Iltooght yon nlennt it wnrning InLeL I mictuulersloutl ywy sir. '1'ho CnAtnrlAN. '1'Le Chnir would like lo sugrost ILnt siurn Ilm nexl, wilness ts'o :n~e quint; I o Iln cc is ft'utu {ho A mrri.nn ('uocer Scir/y, insfrnd of nt'gmnents ttith Ihn wilnrsses, tcr mi~l llll Iml on wilFl I6u I lrn t'inks. ~ 11fr. I.oer:usuf'1'exas. I nill tei/Lholtllhoqnrslinus. 1110 CttnuterAN. Mr. Yonngcr? Tfr. 3"ooNar,6."1'hank you,11L. Chnirmnn. Aft'. Toot.e, I notire ml p;lre 2 yoll tls Ihe, oxpre5sinn "unnrress;u'V loss of life dne. to cit;aret.le sntohing," antl tlten yoo nsn Lhe nxpres- sion t6at it. is a serinue 1Lenllh hnzard, nml Illrn nn page 3 again yon usn °dyinR Ir:lj;ir:tlly nnd omlecrxsorily evrr.y day frnm Ihe rlfecfs of r.il;;nrelln sntnkiug " Notv yon os, Iho r sprrvsinu of n h,nllll har.;ml, awl 16rn fll," iIrnlli froulei;;arrl.tnsmolcinj;. Arnllleysynnnylnons? 11fr. A'txrrlt. Wcll, lvo Ihinlr il. w llle Itrrlllt hnznrd, sir, 111n1caoslw lLo r1e;tUls and Ille disnbility. 79tis is the view of :111 of Lhe orj,mnizn- t.ious we represent. !tf I'. YoIINURn. Wlfll, 1 know. But, I mnnu yon me one exprossion one I itne ond IInal :ntol lLrr rxprec.. sion. Now,wLic6dnyoulnenn4 fffr. FlwnIn. I tne;ln bntlt of fllenl, sir. '1'Lis is o crrintls hrn1111 lolr.- nrd, wLic.ll ennsl+s ulunll Irogic onnrcresaa,y loss of lil'c, 6n:1 umoh sull'ering. 11lr. 1~uoNn1:n. Ynn wnnI, lu uso It wnrniog, Ihrn, t.hnt ci);nrrllo stllllklltgr will cmise denlh? 111r. Frwrrn. We are lnvfcrlly cnntent. In sny what, Illr :lnleric:m Tlollicol Aswrcin.fion sn,y5- I6nlill is a sv.rions Ilr:tll h 1)nr;rJ. Mr. YovNmPm. lluf, nnl. n rly refrreuco lo denth. . 11fr. FnTrl:. I pet'nonnllr tcn haven't debnled 16a1, s,ir, in oor roun oil 1Velortr.un~lran:~r1mti~li,nr:. f ihinl: il l.. I ........,., r i'....

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2111 f1llUltlsI"I'li LAltPlldNl: \NP AL1~P:11I'Ir<INI:--1!165 I:rsidrll('nf'wuwi.v.viunnu F1rurllli.vra." r,('unrrr.und lIn):r n n.Plu. 1'n:umiu.vinu A ruu;dp.:.Jb a" ,+ Ihv ruurluulnUU :uul rrrmumruJa~ Iiuun of ILr Surl:ruu qrurrnl'n .\:h'im. l'p t'onuuillrr uu Smuldu;; w)q Ilrnllh ~Hii,h. lu n4ditinn In ~.uullrminl; Vrrtions mpnrls. .Inhd Ihul sumiau/; la u w.rlouu huv.:nv1 11, 6r::111, :u:J bulirulril Il:o urrd L.r worr uKCrv.++lrr pruF:rmn. I::1hi+nrrn. '.It .r:alw uppnro:d Ilwt Ihr ntinrlion uf ri/;::roln .mulauF on.rN grrul p rdhilllln. rar Il:u prrvvnlinu nf illnr=~, .li<uLlllly. ::nd In'rnudnl'r J.vlh In Ildx counlry, tcllh rrRnl'd In balA tnncrr m)d r:U'dlutnernhrr dlewlnr Frum nPurl, cuhuuc I, lulgr .Ill. 'I'hn('n.\nlnl,tN. I)urs Ihld nmrlnilr. yonr prc~cnlnliun? I)r.lYll,l,ln~lv Ycv,sir. '1'Ln ('u.uumArl. 'I'llauk yun crlry ulnr6. 11Ir. knl;olyF nfl. RtK,eutu nf'1'exuv. I)oetol', )'uu lal l'e 6nntd ull of Iheso divcuw+ious Intln.). I uolirecl yuu .ilt.inp! in Ille:tudion/'o 1"ou tvolr) quilo nl.lnu- tivo. I mn nurry .Van Ilntl to \vail. ~u lnu~~. Rnl ylnl feol Ilmt ull (nf 16ecn nrlivilirs nW lined 61 Illn tiurp'ron tirnr`Inl, rthnt they tvcre p/n'- lir.ipxlin{; in Ihis n1Ym., Ilmt.lhn,V nrn pn)pcrnc.t.ivilics fnr Ihe FedcrnJ (luve.rnwr.ul.? 1)r. Wn,la.tna. I cerl.uinly do, sir. Bfr. Hlwnacnuf'I`e.ns. Et'en tlronducnlional prograln thnt.l)r.Teny Ic.Ailil4l tLe.y tcarn;,.cllinf,r into, in Illr.~):ululyf.irnl mnrket.lntg reporls uud thinysof LL:dt kind? I)r. 1Vn.l.lenr.a. f Jn. f dou'1t bnlirt~c trn ottn ('nl'ry uld: lut elTvrlicn lu'u;rr:un trilhuul. Ille cdar;dion:ll nwl)rrls, rslmrinllv 1'nr c6ildreu. 11r. Ilnana:n of '1'rsns. Ynu thiulc it i, :t prnpcr n rnn for I he Rednral (wnr).rnnlruIlo bo upnratino, in 2 I)r. 1Vlla.l.t nvl. I ILink tlle 1'edlrnI 1 incr,rnnlruL rnn pointIllc teny nnd Lnlp nr in lorul arl.irilic~. 'I'Lev nrn nnlt tcnintg lo do ilt nlnnn. '1'hoy uro t;uing lu du itt in rcx)lurallce Ir.ulurt~¢ tcilh Slntes uml ttllll loc:\l ur~r;luizartions I \vonld nv5nme.. NIr. Rur.ratnt,f'Prsns. 1)ncInl, I ynl6orlha1vun frrllhn116elnbrliug uu:l iLl.nolit'lliea nf Ihc. Frdcral (invrrulncnlm in nwSnmin)* Ilm nvluilv- uuvll, uf Inllrlin;; itwl tlnin,r:,lt of Ihiti )Nill )lon Ix)Iler.lub nf .Slnl)piup! . I his thuu junl n'I ru i,t±61 I:ru6ibil iull ! f)r. \S'n.laanls. I nnl n1 prnllirnl prr.,on, aud f don'It believc prallibi Iinn unlllll tcurk. nfr. RlHlrals uf'1'exns. Iinl. yun 414) Illink that surnlciu); oug61lo he prnhibilcvl'd l)r. A1'nm\rfa. tdetlllS', ynn, 6u1 tcr' h:ne to nmepttvlutt. w'n think ttce v:ul t.et. 6cm. :Ind I think tco (-nn nc/onq)lisfl ngreul1 donl nf gncxl avm n. Inm,t pnriull of lime if tenlceep nibhlin.~ al.Itlisil)ing Itnd acnnml.liell- inR it. in u trny Illalt will ecrul onlly :;nrcv((1. 7 dnn't Ihink prohibit inn vruulllLencrrl)Icd.nnd I dnn'tIltink il.trnnlQ tcnl'k. All'. ftut'r:rn uf 9t.an5. 11'6a1. I nul Iniking nLnnt, llorlar, in tcltrlln'r il, tvnukl Le ufroplod nr uul, yun fnel in ynnr ulen uliutl, I boliccr. yau saicl brvond u rrnnun:lhln dnubl, Ihul.:;ulokinl; rnusrs Imlg rnnrcr, an I tt'nnld r.uuclwln t6ot V-llu vranld 16in1: ilnnt;hllo be pruhibilyd cil hnr Ly forco ar Ly pcnvlnlsiott? 1)r. S1'ud.l.tnls. I onuld Inlcn prrnaun,i..n. I aill go tvilL 111111, , yts. 11Tr. It:xnsnc nf'1'exnG. Nnw I)orlor, havr. you m:lkn nn1' inqniril;5 ur d:: yuu hnrn lul.)' r.citlnurn teil.h rrr:ml lu 1hee olftc1 nf ezlunl"l. flunrs ilt l.nntiiul; linh Ilnncar? ('ItIA1tN1'1'rP7 1AIIMLINI7 ANn AUVI41t'fIRINO---106,9 21'7 I/r AYrf,ltAnlc. 1'e.lsnnnlly 1. 6n.vu tuot. I am in LLo uliuioal prncl.ico uf tinrh cry, Ilnt Lhcre tl ro nuluy ;;nr.h slndioti bning macln ovcr tLn auun- la')'. Nr. Runr.us of 'I'oxua. \\'Ird T:Im tlhinkim,, nlu)ul, clo you lmvo in }'mlr oteu nliull nr 6nvn you brvn fm'nis6rd in cunnecliun willl yom tl)d.io5 in the ('9ncer SMirty tvilll infnrnlal.iflIl i)nlirnt.lntg n91n tvltein tho iucitlnure af e:tilcnr mirWbo mone provnlout or nlnro nnnlcrnuv, sn,y lilce in un indnsl.riltl luclt mltnre Illey Imvo n lot of snlalro flnww or iu nfn urct tvhnrn tLern iShtnvy Gnllioc,nug e_qt.inn7 1)1, \lrnefnars. Well, ilia shldics thn.t. Ilavo been dnnn strnnl;aly tnUnlR(11 lutvn not indicntetl nny IGrnnt ln'epnndarnnea of cancer in LLnt. nren. '1'liero is n sliRht increasa. In Now Orleans, for inslancn, t.hara is a Ilighor inciclenco of lung csucnr th:ul theto in in nithcr 1'iltsbnr{!lf or Ltn; Angeles, nnd yon cnli t binlna tlntt an ilLanhnosphern. Tlr. Stxnclw nr Tcsns. 'P6:di is ndclectinC. I didn't Irnnw 1Lnt.. Rot ynn sny LInro is. 7)oes f.llal. fncnn tllara Ine morn people snlokiul; in Nno' ( )Iratus'? llr. \VnI.IAeu. 7)). Allou OrLsnet snys it is t6a l.icnyuna ciunretle, I am uott slna. Mr. lLruats of'Pezns. Rnl; do ynll feol 1)actor, that Ilra inhnlnt.ion of LhnGa fmnes from yonr slltndpuint am~ ynar expert knowledge as a dnrlar, Ihnt i6a inLalqlinn of tUegee esLnnst fnntes doos contribute Lnvirnllv In Illn inrrca5n iu cnnrer? I)r.'11'n.l,lnmp. I atln vwm il1 hns Salnn e./llot,:Qr, bul. it. L:Is nnt becn nllu~nrnLln in nuy nf 160 'IaJiet thnt Intvc hcnn Ilnun. 11. has been r)lat.ivclv Inintdc, t6e dilTrrlurn 11tut. 1'on woold fnromdnr in Nntv 1'ork CiIy or (76ir.nmo, ns cntnp:n'(vl .cll6 a rnrnl romnuniil.~~. llR is muro rolnlcd 1o ILn nirnlbe.r uf 5molccrs ond Iha inlonsil.y uf lhen smuk- inR hnLil s tLan it, is I lln nlannvphare. 11f1. litxn;ns uf '1'tsus. 'I'h:n I t,;:dl)cr frnnt ynm Ifsl.ifnony, 1)Ix.lur, IL:tIt non I)n.vvrunrlndcd in N'nrn'ott'nmindthat.r.igorrllcs:Irnnrlually :tlnmgt. t 6o r.)uvn. siun Ipm. nun in 1 hia ci(unlion. 1)r. \1'u.l.l,\.In. ALuul. tt!l In!In 1.,rcrnl.. I think tllnliv Il)c runsdnN, figpre in I Iln r.~prrinnre uf i hu.v: of ns in I 11i9/inlll. Nlr. Rlw:l':ne uf'.I'exns. Ynn fonl lil:n nvro reachint; LLnt)nnclnsioo nn t.llo Ilonict-t it, pra+rnlc, tina6 ILero ~'nt;[61. uot. 1n 6e a prnhihition'd 1h. \Vtfa,lnnfs. I Ihinlc itt will ba idcul if t.llom noldd to, but.1 Ir.peat I dou'Is I lcink il. is alfhtinabin nntv. A'6. It.:cxnta of Tesnn. I1o yon iLiulc tcu nuhLlt to cdnlmto Iha pfwplo t:u stop. 1"(,u frcl Iltln, I)ovlf)r, tilld, t.6n 1nLaccn Lnniuc+s.s nk :+nrh tihrndd bf do.r'.Lrnyrd? 1)r. 1\'ut.lAmn. No, sir, t don'1. Ihiuk tll:d. I dau'tIhinlc anynno in 064 s linld IUinksl.6,d-. Alr. It/x:cats uf 'Imsm lAal'I, mivlanlrl~huul we. 1:Inl not, lonkiug :It. l6iv f rnln I hn slnntl ltninlof ynn jnslroint; lnll, nn:l t t;yiny; I n drd rny i-l(uncl6ing, Inll. I mnnn frnm IlLOslaudpoint of what yon 6nrosnid,}'on fnel likn in ILe finxl annl)'sislobanennnRhtnaf.tobcktutvn$ I)r. 1\' n1 1 %nt s. I truu Id 1 i k c I n seo ulcr n, pnriotl o f yc:n's n Lra nsi I i un urulo lu nlLc.r o.rnpe, nnd I tllinlc ILIII. is a'Lat ncl1lall.y will ncr.ltr, rmm~'dlrv~ of trlm.l. trn hty'r to:lny Ihiul:, Iltis is inrviluWo in time nf /6r i u forln a I i nn wltic.h wa hme. 411 µ^d An --45

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232 CICAItD~Cri7 ).AIII:WN(I ANI) A11PP1nTISINC-Ie65 A1r. hlKrrn:. Librnl;y of Afediciuc.. I ttlso do n grenU denl of Lha sec- rolatrie.l )vorlc wilh lily own sncrnt:rr.y ill Nolv York, on my lnlyroll. Atr. KottNU:r.Aj. I)n yon di(.lale Illr.lollcrs orcr llte pl)enn? AI r. Lbo1'r. Freluently over the phono, and hnck :uld forth. Smnn- tim(_ti I tnnil them l.hings. Soruel ieres 1' c.ome down here 14) 1Vn.shing- t.on, nud wo go over Lhings in 1)r. ( ini krics' ollice. ] fe, is Lhe secretary of Ihoconneil. AVellnvegoodcou)municn.tinn. Alr. ]{onNranY. ]Te is n memher of Ilre 1'nhlic Ilealtlt Servico? A1r. Fan,':. Yes, sir, stn(1 llo is se,crrl.nry of Ihce a)Imcil. AIr.ICmtNr.aAS. Soctr.lu.ryl:olheinlnrrgenny.-- - Air. Poo'rm.. Ycs, lie is uno nf- Lho Ihrre nllirrrs; I)r. 1)irhl nnd Dr. (:ul.hrio nnd myself. AI'r. IConN):oAr. And of nll Lhe Iimoa ]'on have hceu lo Washington ill c.omteetion tvitlt your duties as clr,tirmml of the inleragenc,y (aamcil, yon ha.veat'tt hr.e,n 1e lhe oflice outt ill RnLLIsda, Atd.? NI r. N'oorlc. No, Iw'cousn thnt is It m:riliul, nlldress, it. is n place tvLero .vn do (lie ron6iue clerical lcoric I t, is nut lrhvre lle, (lo wlmtever bnsic, pl:uuring vee, dn, sir. . AI r. KolcNlsunv. 1Vhmr, dn yat hnva pom Lunrd mcel.infis? Alr. T(wnla. We havn I.hcel fr(vplr.nlly e.l. Ihn 1'uhlie 1loullh Service. jvo Lavo t.hem nlso ill holels in A't'nsltinglon, like Ihe Ailtdison ilotel. I\'n hnd one there rrv:nntly. 1 Flsro bcrn living almost nl, thnt, hotel t.ho last. yeer. Ilut. we hnve t.henl fnaleeully nt (.Le I'ublic TTenlth Smvicr_ Somct imcs al. t.hn Nnlional'1'R Assnci:tl.ion in New York. Tfr. Fulwhn.tr. I lolr nftrn do you tnenl.? Ait'. Foo're,. 'l'Ite boerd nlerts forlnnlly only every 2 or 3 monll)s. '1'he osca.ut.ivo couuuilten mrcls nnn'6 moro ficwluent.ly. lVe nnl ill loul+h lc il h cnrh ul hrr hy llLouo ul l l hn 1 iuu+. Afr. 1ConNrn~lY. Nolv, ns ngrnap, yon Ilon'I, early ont nny rvsrmrll, do you? AI r. F(o'rn. No, sil. Not ns n rloup. A1r. Kunrvrm,Ar. Or any nl.ndy or :Ir.l.nal stud,y of the prohlems of smokingnndhenlth? Mr. hon'Ir:. No: htdu you sre, m:uly of Lhc mrnlLtr url;ltniz:dimre do c:ury nrd. a grent drnl, nnd lce Lave Ihn Flencfit of Ilmt. Tor example, I)r. I)ic.hl is na mndicnl and sc.icel,ilie dircclor of the American Cnnccr St)cicty. Afr. KonNrai.ev. T underntnnd they do. Itut T am 1:Itllcingto ynn nmv ns cL:)irm:ul uf Ille N:rfionul Int~magenc':)' Coenoil on Smolcinr, nnd Tlrllt.h, mld I nsk yml,1)oes yoar gtoap,,your internt;eney council, ltnve nny cu pn cit y for doi mr wienlifio res.arr.h ? i~l r. Iec~ rrN. No, si r.~ Afr. Kolcxnaar. 'Ih,o purl)ose, of cc)nr,-r, of Ihe orgnniznl.iott of 1Lis :yoen<il isle cirr.nl:ttn informalion. intornrenr r Afr. 1~ uurr:. 9'o (lo lN ha.l, sir? Alr. 1CnnNra:vv. ('ircldaln infmvmliun, is ILn.t correct., oo smokinl; and 1)cnlth. AIr. Vuurlt. f nr)'rr hlal.ril nt. il. Ih:ll. .cn~'. 9'hnfc is unn of Ihc pnr- posrw, ccw. 'hhee hnsic pmpnen is to ort;:rnir.e :uld to dm'elnp omd implc- ment c'11cr.lice ldaus anul prngrnms drn.lin_g lvillt smoking ns n hcallh hnzau-d. C1QAR1:T1'f1 ).AIIPILINfI ANI) AIIylilt1'1FIN8--Itllt'n 233 'J'hn t I I ICI I IIIPR i I111 ( 1 rltl l hLl l(111 O f 111 f1/IIl la tlol l, 1PI'I n 111I t'. Mr. Ko11NFaAr. And oen of Ihn renvms }nn nrr. Ihe chairiu:ul ef it. is of raul:1u,.}oer hnck~roend itl ndvcrl ising. Alr. 1~INrrt:. 1 ima};inonu. Alr. KIIICNr:nA,. Aml yon Icere ill tlte advertising hosiness for mnny yen ra. A[r. Ponre. '1'hirl.y-three and one-half ye tls. ATr. KonNralAr. Thirty-Lhrcu nnd oue-hnlf yentti? Air. Roore. S"es, sir. Alr. KonNlalAr. I hnlirvn you slnlcd 6eGlro }ne sold n hot nf /il,+n- rel.lcs ill yonr Ilay. AI r. 1elwrrr;. 1. 1 rkvl ;nc fally Lnrd. Alr. KonNF:eAY. 1'os, sir. 1nd tllete is lut nrl.iele ill Adverlising Agr., A1r. T(wrte, ill n'hie.h yon au'e t'eported ussaying: I nm uot n sclentinc nnlharil}~. I mm ~ propngnndist. Al l'. 1/(NI'1'li. YCF, sl l'. Al l'. 1\/llt NR11A r. 15 t.lnl (. Ilhhll? AIr.1'(Nr'rn. I Fnr1I I Ie1tC. All'. I(onNl!nAY. Alnl I:Iw1I111P,:1s l indirnlrd Ixfurr,ihatounof lhe rr:rulns thld. von nrn rhuirm:ul of Ilre lntelnt;rmy ('nmrril is Lhal. you aro a prupnl;n.ndisl, nnd (ho plnrpos: is to seml propltRxnda Iluou?,h- oel. tho comtlry ill comtecl iou lvit.h snloking and hen.ll h. Alr. I'ootlt YI's, sir. I a1s,r I hinlc, Mr. ICornng:ty, I lvoeldn't hnvo ~.ollon Ilm 'oh if I hndn't. 1Lnll fhrse posts with Ihe Anlorienn Cnncer Sory nnli Ihe Americ:ul Jlcnrt Ascocinl.ion. 'I'hat. %vnsn'tt my lcholn Iife'svlor.y. 1lhiuk I ltm n hnsiurssman. Alr.)ColcNeunr. Yes. p'cdl, mm', Alt. Fuotr, cln you IHdim'e thnt Lhc 17ut'crnurcul shoehl lako sI nlls I n prohi/liti nll cig:l rrl Ie, ndverl isinR hy kl.w? AI r. honm;. No,sil. AIr. Kmwr,unv. :1re ynu ill favor of legislation f91:d, would reqnirn cihnrelln conrpneicw lo include n. he:l.h.h vvarning in cifiareltn ndtnr- I.isml;? Alrt hcrolw. Ye.s, I nm, Afr. 1Cornegny. ]lmce said lnlblicly mnuy timus Ihnl. )rhu.6 I belince, cclrilr il mey seeul rery inrcvrnnas lo vun. is Iflnl.Ihe idnnl Ihinti ll'oldll br for Lhnconr ranirs toslnllaclcrrlisiuc~ t'ohlnlnrily. lcniling Ilm.l, lce f:nor Ie~rislalion nqeirinR n hnnl/!1 lvnrninl!, liel. nol. ptohibition of Ihe ndrerlasiul;. Mr. KuuNenAl-. 11`cll, nun', ns:w mlanrfisnlti mnn, a mna Irho is n re:ll emiucul. tslw'1't in Llrn field, whnt., in yone ullinice, woldil hn Illo resall, if Iho ('amqress, Lhe he.Jernl'1'rnclo Uonnuixainul or any other age.ocy nf floveteolcut lvcre to insist. t.hnt.l6e cignretle Indnsh;v )laco n 11':ulnieh seelc as hns hrA.n se;,~;gmslud by ATr. Itnnd 1)ieun o~ Ihn F'I'U,onearhnudevrry /icrc.o[nlh'erlisinl;? Alr. I~oinr:. I honrsllv clon'I. lulmr. I hnvn rcml Alr. Tlmlumn (lr:ly'v nlnloment thal. Ihcra ulighlt eul.lw) any ndvcrtisiuo. I clon'1. Ihiulc aulyoun cmdd Irll, ludil snch n law Wn9 p:lsud, Alr. I(orncRay. Afr. Ku1cNCu.l v..lv. 11101, ha.rcn'I. yn« Iwvu of Ihc. npieion Ilml1 ilIconld lw+ vel6dc.fe:d iuR? Afr. Fu.rrl^.. Yes, 1 thinlr il- leunol Ir, n»d Ihnl is 11-hy lcr :ure fnr it. 1Yo don'1. Iw+lie.wp it, is ulurnll,)' ri~hl. for cig:lnIto~ tcl bn nilwrli~wd bcca es.'. o f I hc vrr:u. c lc:l l h:I m l hrn ll.h l ol l I h(y I cl kn. /, .:..1 1 S Ir.

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?Il8 rlr:utldl°rb; I.,un<I.IN, AVLI nUCP:IrrLYliWI---IUfiR Fur lunot' I 6ncn Ilum /hllrcuril .cllrlmrl', ;t~ ,vrIl :Ix ~rntral snr,rrr.l'. I~ lune I/wu rllirf ul' Ihur:lrio Itr. ..cI,t;tl SI. \'inr(ut'.: I Ius- I~ilnl iu .Inr.lc~ourilll, awl cnusullaul. ill Illurnria sur;mt.) to Illt, ttIo- r:nlti' Iluvl,ilal a1. Islla, ('i11', FIn. I rwpll;lsirn 16is uvl,rr/ nf my rx pc1'i"nvu viurl, I. tcnnl. Iu wnktk it, rkar IImI. I Ilnetk optra1rJ un Innnl' pnl.iruls trilll lnng rnortr nud I nui Illnrun-6l,y I'nloilinr nilh Ilro d i vl:t sr. .1s :It culuWrrr, I h:u'e rerctvl uti prtnitltnl of Ilu, I lUval ('nltnl~)' uuilof ILn ~\wr.rirnu ('nurtt Sn-it1~' :In,i ns prr,idcnh nf /hn l~lnlitla divinian of Iht. Soeicly. 'I'Itu Amr.rirnn (!:Inrr.r Suoit.Iy iti a nulinnal "oluulrl:y 6e:1116 ;tgrury, u61L 3 million rulnnlerrv, ur~~auized iulubt) ditisiunti:utdcomptKt,d of a,UUU unil5 Ilu-uu;,ltoul. Illt 11uiIcd SlnltSl tiinro IIf1fl, t.lw atIV it1y 6rls brc.n clrly,ly c-cluwtrntd tcitll Iho Ilrubir.lu ul luu;,, cnnror, ila s6arp iurrrnst,, and fLn rtInt iuns6ip nf cignrolir.sutnLing lo ht,nllh. 11'/, Ilnvo condnt/tIl wajur epidr.luiolugirnl vludirti ill 16is firld :md havc cal,- l:utitd In6nralnrl, rlinivnl,:uul palhnlul;iral rntitnrrh. Iu 1960, nm Iluard uf dirrtlors lunl: thn pnvilion Ihat. "tn~idrnet prcsotdrd I~y LLe lutluy sl ndiev rtpmi rd iu rrrrnl. yeals indlt.utna htYunII rc;lmouabin tlcmLlIlut6 r.iu':uvIlt. vwolrinl; is Iltu mn,jur r.ulso of uo- plretdooled iurrr;lsrc in Irtng rnitrw.. \Yt, 61-g;ut xu ildtn5icn prn~rr:un of ednc,Iliuu, nimed alInu grvtupn: AI. Itcnngtrv tt~hu rilher Lnd nul 6rgun In vwuke ur luul null yrl. Ircrn lir'ully 'gipprd 6y I.ho Ilallil, :uul nl phesiri:ms. Aciln ao fcllwtrt.Illn I<r.y tdnr:tliunal iullurnte ou lir;lllh in lllt I luilyd Slalts. Durin;,r mY tcnrlc trilh Ille .uric/y I 6ncr ~IV~crcl uu Ihr ennunillrati rtlnrnrnnl nltll pulir_1' ull tIrurrlItx:lud Ilmr rnurtr:uld I 6nrn III:IywI u lulrl. in ulrl rllnreliltu:ll progrnu niluocl :d. lolnngcrx. :Ax yuu luay Intutr, tLo :Amcrirmt I'uldic IItullll AG,carialiun rali- malocl Ilml, if ,nlul<ing Irttlelns ul' IuG3 runtinIm, I millinn r.hihlrrn 1101%, in sr.6ual ,till din of lnng rluuer hefurn Iht:y' :Irn ill. IYhtu tcr aJd Illn ncldit.iunnl millinns who tcill 60 lua- ~;lrrilt, smol:in!~ rnu- Iinnas-lo IlrarL Ilivmst, tutd t,wph~~tienln, tro 6nt-e snlnc idtvl uf Illr uw;;nilutlt,of ILislLr:lllh prtihlrln. 11. Lav Lrrn ul;,.urcl Illal I lu rrlntiomllip bltnccrn titr:Irrll.t vmnlcin~r ;Ind lun t.>lurcr Ilav nnl. Ltrn cn/nhli~hrcl. '1lurn is r:urly, il rlvr, ruuqllrlr.lp un:tniull,ns:l:grrrulrnl. on :ule wlbjrrtl tcht16tr il, is wirnl iliri nr rcunwuit, iu pulitirs ur :wy ot lur Iinlcl. I u ntediriuo I.Arm ;uot uuuty aroas uf dina~,"rrr.lnrnl : nLunl. Iloor In Irt:IL tcrfniul furuls of cautrr; alI,nul. Ilutv lo use wllirongulatds iu cnrounry Itrnlt, diunsr.; .vlud6rr lo f.re;tlslonlach ulrrrs bv mnrgrrv or by Itypulllrrmin. Neve.rlhcless, 16nro is mort, nt,nr1y nnlfurm ugrnculenl, on 16re ronvir.l.imv Ih;ll-. ciRm rt,tlrs :Ltn Iho priotiltal r;lunt, nf Inug ,nurrr /ltan om manv olhrr sn6- .Icrlv '1'6m fat:t Lllal, lul tsptri:lIly lal'nr. pr.lrrnlnl!v, nf IltKqnl-S Lntl '6upl,otl smuliiu:,; or c'.huugtd frnul ri~~:nrllrv iu piltrs ur tikarti iti highly vig-'n ilitnn.l. 11is actu ulnrc aig, n ilicuul. t II:11Ihc vprciltlis(s ,clla ,Innl mnsl. ,ci1L Innt, rourvr.. 16c ILnrurir suj,nnu, rndiolnl,risl, ncnNsf pll,~siNi:m,;uld Iml.llnlugisl- uutc It:lt.c,Illr fvwrv6t.ilrnl'vllnsmul<rl:~. 'I'ho Snlgrnu (1<nvrnl's :1dciSl,rv ('nnuuitlcv, Brpor6 of Ihuulat.e 11, I:If I, prlnlurcJ n, tlrt.p implriuu ou Ihv pnhlio. ;tnd itt tr;lw rtwnl:nir.td ns I Ile c-nirn uf aul Iluril t-. It iv 1 imt uuw fur Illr ('tlll;!ITR4 IO IJII:P ";I It- prulrri;llt, n+nirolinl arliou us mrumintqllrll IrV Ihn SII}(ron (1tntIal. Ko ciurla uvl.iun (r rrlsh prnrranl Will vnlro Ihis llruLlrm. Ilutrr,lr, (m4JtJ:Lrh: t.nnKlIYU ANU nuYr:ll'rlSl-Nll - 1965 '411!) n rnlllioualtL16t4 uu cignrrlltv n11J iu :ItltrrliSiuf! tcill Im. nlu u0Gial Ilrulnll,lraliolt 6t' ILu ('uttrivw uf ilv rlmrvrn ahuutl.Ili.6r:tllL L:Izanl. llnr cnt.irly iu its work vcillt Irru:tgrrs hns urgauirrd w:uty Stnlo rnufcrcutvv uf SIudrtuL ltailol. lo Ji~c~uss Llln tplrtilinn uf am.llrti. Aymiu nad nruin, ILrsr. ynuur"ltrs Imvt r;livrd tllt tplrslinn: 11' n eiga- nIlo is d:IntCcruuv to ny hr:1111L, a'Ity dl>twn1Ihu linrarnmoul. rrywrc. II tc;nning nu Ihe pnrlc:IRr t'I'lllrc :ur. wut1t tcarninl!v tun a. t~:lriolY of dnn{;erouv I,rnduel.4, frau iodinc up uud dutvn thee slarlruul. 'I'hern shunAl Im :I. tcn.rniu;.; nn ciRnrvIlc purkngcs. I cnrtntdw urr. Itu,c tct, rnu calrl-/vur,r;n in nm o11'm'Is lu hnilll suulul Imlmt~ior un tit;nrello vulokiu,r auumf± Ilu, wmt{,r ttltlrsc 1hn ('ongPrss Inl<cs Illin slrll-anll sllntrv ILn linvtrumtvll's rt'enRnilinu of Iht, daul;cr of titl;.unllt smuk- iug. Rur G yt:nx I ho Amrritan ('nurcr Strit,t y lutn urgtcl tLn/, I lu, tnr nnd tlienliun rtntirnl, ill Ihm maiusl.rtmnl of 1a6mru swulu+ 60 ln6lded. (Im ILiulcily, is Its follu,cs: IlnfurI.uu:titIN ', IIlrlr;rlr. omuv Innlllr nneSn sl rnuglY IlJdirlrcl In cip,nlrrl la smulciuq Ilwl16t-y liud~ ilinytossiblt+ In ~ito np /61i IlnLil, r~ru thour6 16t.y r:rrllttilltdtvilr In t1u Sn. '1hrcr. I,rulJl, ,risll tu ~mukt, Ihe It':IlIh:tl'mful tih:uvIlu :ICnilnLlce nn I6u Iwlrkr.l. .\1. tLo Ilrtunltirnc I Imro iF uo snli~farlta,y ,c;lN ' fur ILr rv,il- swurr lu jn,ll;r ILc, Irlulier. mlrilx nl dilft.rrnl. hrauds of citprrtlrs I'rnm 16t puinlC uf rir.,c uf Iar nnd Ilitnl.ino. Ilmvtcer, Ihr.rt, is nridrnrcv hvul Illr ('aulttr I'mcrnliun Sludy af Illn :\mrriran ('aurer Sorirl.1', iu ,c6irh we :Irn. I'nllutviu, 1,100,41010 111,1'NU114 Itll' li Yt9115, IlttliI,FI11111 \CII,I FIIIUIU, ~I:!tlPPll/p IuK Itl Illttllllll` :nIJ 1 1 n-runlrld rua,6 Ir:a /lwn lunplt M6u .tnnkc rlrnrrllrs high in ni.4uliun :InJ I:u. A rnl.iunrtl rnu,rL, trr Ilncr funncl is n donl,tIl vi!_nnl LllntIwlv Imiu( lo Inuo, rnnrrr. .\ unulLrruC~rirulinl~ I'trl Illali6 is likely IhlllluwJ:u, lotc uivul6lr ritulr.llt. mn}' ILr. Irsti Strinask ~ Illl.flulhl) Illiln u1110i r.il(8PtIlts. I r;lU sPP It0 snnnJ Iv:IPUII fnr Ilal, rrtluirin;l ri,r:rt'rllrs lu rirn 16t I;u' :uld uioulint rc,ldoul, luul I wre l,o.sibin;ulcn.nla;;ts. R'trrqnirrlnbrling ofrnnlrul un:l grral.tarirly uf prudnrIs,,cLs unl nn ci~unLlrs'd I lanttrr, Llui l:dK1 tln parl<;Irtti is nnf Innngll -i1 iv iwprrnl irr Ihnl Pcnl.~' I'ndia :wli ItICYiNic,u rlllulurrrial, rclv.t:ulccIlirrmrnl rarl.c :I Hl;lIruunll likr ILiv: "1':ulliun Il;lbilual (~ignrtIlc Snudtiug Is Ilnz;rnluusln IIcall6." SuvL :I l,rn/ltlitv, :ulcorlivinr IuLol tcill Ind. Iho iulli,itlllnl oll Ihu nlorl-, rrmindiug Ilinl :tt!ain ;tnd nr :, ul Ihc, ctriuus Ilunruf In 6t;tllh iu ricamlln smolciu;t'. '1'hee te:nning nuscnrre will nut. I/rnhibil, ad- vorlisin}t' uf ci;,rare.llrc-lls Ims blxu donn m(inrlli. Ilydain :wd in Ilnly .-.-Lulil- )cill nwlco cle:nr lo nll tnusamnrs IhcI ccriona rislc IL:tI. 1 htY rnn in. snlul:iur c~if±nrrl lr.. Ilu,cct'rr, cnmlidlc, I du nul r:ol tll:ll nn :nlcrrli<in;! ,r:u~ninr trill ilwurdinltIt' rrclnrn 1ltc, ronSmuld inn uf ri,~:u~olll~: Ilt/ bn.c tr611 sIln,Lt. Its w:lin ctllur -liltt I6n I:16tI on:l 'nu'Itn;[r tcill br la nltrl Ihll:<r ,c6 m'o uul, rh:ur.llr r;mnltrrn, Imrlirul;lrk ~ 16r bncr: nucl girlv uu Mloul Illrl'r. are wmttny plrsSnnstn I,dce np oirurtdlr snud<in;C. (\u,c, n'hil, 1 6ayn hrlu inlrrvslrll ill Ilin rnurrld. uf Ihr ntle cigarttlo Ivtllr, I rnnuol sre how unylhiut Sltar6 of au »clctrlisiur tlnrniug tn snmla,rv ,cill lnnridtl etlrtpmlv Inulrrl iun for coml!, Ircvlldr. IIiv ru- rourn!nnl, 16:16 111'afrstiioo;t) nlLhIt~ un lon~lr ndtrrllsr virnrcllt:;. 'Pht, lulclrru indu:~lrc unn rull~h;c:izr: Ihnl ri:1nrrll' ~undciw, is nn

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172 1'I(I:111ICI"1'il I,AItI~:I,I\I: \KP .\P\I.II9'ISIM{- 1!1115 1)r.'ll;mn~. IIh is b:t,rd (m manl' 4.1114,1 rrlnmIs tLal hme colur uat in I hi.<enuul I'y :1 ud abrnnd un I Ito subj(rl.. Alr. Snrrl:nlnal,u. Is your rr,purt hrrn nniL:tscd rnr t.llosr" samr n- Irorlsa I lr. 'ISann. I1t is n couyrosilo actnallr. II is c. cwnunrty of tLns(, rrl,orln a6icli ,rrrr.:rvuilnLlc up unl il tl,c. ( b:outilteo complnled sl.udir~ af.I6n(.u(i of IPII:{. Mr. V,rrrt:¢rua.u. Ln t.hc funds Ilyd. \'ou :uc nskiu;~ froln Ilr,: Ivrd~ ur:ll (iorerwmnl, I Iclca it: I6at pur( uf Ihcmr fwuls wilI go inlo rrsr;ur.h. Ih.'Plau;r. (1fILe$1,960,IN108 Alt. ti:rrrhr,rna.u. Yes. I)r.Puaon. ['ununlooslrld.,yrs,sir;InUl.u',;clyunt.. Alr. tinrrlsltrIt:ID. AVuaI( I Ijcislro Ihv rrsk-:uc6 iu ronnocfinn uilIt Ihe olI'c..I:s of slunlcinh cihcuellcs nr IoLa(ru on I6o hcnll6, or won61 il. lie in 16e gennrtl lur,t nf L:uvtlld nsporl> nf cit;urrlle smokiut;'? I)r ~ISamn'. Yes; 6trt it. wonld slso 6ct iu rcla.t.iun to ulhcr :t.spccls of smol:iul; in Icrms of wlty pooilc stnolce, \\hnt thoy cnn do lo slop ,wolcinh if lLV:Y wis1L to stop, nn( so fortlt nud so on ,ylr. tintro:tuIra.n. 1)ors yum 17ep:u'Iwrul, ot yoln 2},m,ncY in any vcny huudlo or aQninisler nuy of Iho t;r:culs nf Irederal frmds IJ,nI nre Ilciu_., usc,l fur rrs(umh n Ihe prublo.ot" nr haznrds of.anmkluf;' par.vr? I)r. 'I'etncr. l'cs; ns a urcl.irr ul ('urI, inust uf licco fmlcls that nm ;r\nilnLle fur resen.rcl, in relation lo mnlolciof; are available t.hrollgh 4'r:tnl.frowtllel'uldicl[u:tltltSw'vicc. Lnr+t.yonrthoCongres9mndc Ilwds IV:tilnble to lim 1)npn.rllnent uf Agrir,tdlore iu tllis tlireet.iml aIsu. '1'hn,c, I hcliuvc, rcpresiit uLoot 160 only funrls Llrnt ccro nvail- ul,lo 1'n,ut t.lle loednrnl (7nv-crnntncdC tn support. nvse:rrelt in t.his fielrl. AI r. S,rrrumt'ncl.u. 'I'6ere nre no specilic grttnls to individunl doctors ur to collah('s ur instilnl.ions lo (undm'.I. specilic, rese:lrch projeetsf I)r.'I'r:mtl t)11,yos;I.hcronre,sir. Avlunllyonrrascarcllprnl,muw iii rclaliun lo setolciuq nod I(o:cll:h, as \eildl lunn,y t6er conditions rr- lul.vl to hettll6, is Junn in I.tvo woys. tiunrc of LIm rnsonrclt is donn I~y oor u\cn nc.iouli,l.s \vorlciut!, In nnr o\vu I:LLnl:rlol'ics. 'I'I,e otllm 1'r.. =curcll is (louu I;trlgLy 11 y t,rr:tnl.v lu :ri(~ulisls nu Ihe onlsiile wllu wish to tnr1nvV it suLjVct. ~Itcy slLmit nn application, usually, lo the Nitiotntl lnstitutes of Ifratlllr nslciu~ for linanciul support ut order to purstw this subject. :\I'tm a onrr,lnl reviow 6y n.dvt.anry bodies, the decisiat is Innde in Ir.clus of wltel.lmr or nol. LLis projecl. is to bco sap',orled. Afnny or tltcsn nre intlividoals working in mtiversities, in collef,res, and in nlLcr resenrc.lt insl.iLuf.ionsl.Lrnughonttho(amul.ry. Atr. 5nrrzncrr,t.o. I tnlco it in ndlninislming these grants, it, wonld Lu t.lro iutrut. of your office to give equal grants to tl,osn that, mit;hl. uttompt to disprove ILe liudin'-a of yutu' Uommit(ec ns w(dl :cs t6ow that, nu"ht soLslsnntinto it. 1)r. 'I'uauce [t would Le tLo inl.ent of ocn organization, Lhe entitn 1'ublic I IeatlllL Snrvico, t.o give first, (xrnsidnrntiou to any research pro- pnsnls wltir,L wonld nild to onr infonn:,l.ion pro, con, or hownter. A1 r. tinrrr:w~ rtcr.u. Now, oun In.st Iplc:a,ion tu t;ot back to tho qtlosl.iou nf Inhclim. I nntice on pu },0 7 you mude n stntatnont (hnt it, is elear in civw nf whuL yon Ilnvc nhondy vn.iJ t6nt, it wonl(1 ovorsimplfy LLn mnltrr lu yum' upiniuu In ellclnpl. In 41,01 naf. 1+6o reqniremcots in ri,aturr'rP: L\ulu,IVr ANn nnvl.arrlSlNr- -IltUS 1%3 IL(, sln(nl itvclf and (lispcnsc nllol"e1:Ler tvitL llto ny,nll:rtory :ulmilr- ircl.r::.l.iou. ,\rr yon Inllcinhn:6onttllelallclinqt6crr? I)r.'I 'ewn'. I utu uut Sme ecnet.ly whet'o Ace nro here. 01 r. ti,rrrratl~ lel.n. 11, is I.he I Irird pm'nf±raplt on pagn7. Ih.'IS:ntos. Yrs,sit. A I r. ti.v'Irrlthna,n. [ fail to follnw t6e logic of tLis, sit. 1ou conlo ill) wilh c(v'ls.in c1111clllslnlls wit.lr respecl, to ci},ntrotl:o smoking, and it. wmdd secnr fo tile that witlr Iheso conclnsions, fho mnttur lxxumes, if wu :nvrnp6 it, rntller sim4de. JI do nnt know wllnt yon tnenu by ovcr- tiituplir,yiuR 16n Innltrr if vor nllrn,plod In apcll rnct tvhat. llle lal,el slloldd I,o. Ilr.'.Irantr. \I'rll, tlro poiul \vc mndo I Ihiulc was iu I(rms of Ihc dr- , I a iIs of I his. We pll. t.lt:,l1 ilt shnLl Lc Ik ft lo ndtninist.rnl i,'n hotdlin., :ntJ IhalIhi,, );atm more Ilrsihililv. Ivurr..emplv, if ndllilicaral iol'or- loulion Imrnmcv:rtnilnlhlr,nnvwig;htilcorcu~r.llronnllnrenf /.lm cc:(ruiu ur nv-nn pus~ibly, if n. sa 1'ev cil;uro/lr is dommnst'.rnled, lo ntuil. Il,e honlAt \an.rnimr. AIr. ti:\'1ru:r,l~lla,u. Italus /:tr ns whnll is nyplierd ill Vum riac I,ula}', ilt is onl 'o enntplirul(,I Ilyd. \trv nv :I enuunitl(e rnnlcf md. rrrntumrnd sl,rr.ilir. \cortlinR, is il.? Ilr. I'iau:v. I t.hiulc il is nf ,unrs,, yuur r6ori,inu n:: lo uLrlln1' pou ,v:rullu (;it r I his IU :In n,I111t111NI rI111Y1 IttiD11Py to I':11'I,Y nII nr \ch,l lur )i,u vcivli lu a,rll it nnl vnursrl f. Mr. ti.rr'I rarnl la,u. I llo ce nn ul hor qursl iunc, AI r. l'6n irmno. '1'Ite ('itnncnlnN. Alr. Alnclut)? Afl. ALvar..vv. 1'Itnnlc you, Alr. U6nirmnn. I)r'1nntr. I wonld lil:n tn lira, sny 1Lnf. ~[ Itol vemy wnc6 nncnt'n of vow olo.rln(~ss la pobliy henlllc.:tnd 1 w:ud. to suppurl. Vum' (II'urls io mcl,y \c;ly I c:ut. I corlln Irntu nn ur6nn dislrirli in \vhich 16orc nro nn Inh;crro Gurin:+,uu lubnrri, urcnnfnrltnv,.>:.6ut vncrrn.l Icnn,hvd Ilont~nn,l runwuurr:+. Likn Nr. tinllorttrl,l. I;nu uroII.he enuwllllro, nn,l 1:un rrr.1' iunrl, of a. luYmnu, an,l Ihirv :m, sn,uc iptr.lic,us I,-,ul nra: IL:tI hn(n nul 6rrn ntelceJ Yrl. 'I'hn rrl:tli,ms6ip brlvn(n tllc nLuFe rlr t,:bnecn nnil liqn,n' i,ti crr 1.cinly nnlhin", new, is it? I)r.'I1:ICnr. I ann not slu'n jnst us:rutly s.6:tt, )ou mcnu lLy I haL. Alr. AGclc.vr. I menu 16at tho elua-vic and ILe school 6nve discnor aohc.ll t lin ntn of Inl,nrcu nncl liqunr by yunn ~r pcuplo fur tt Inuq 1 icuv_ Ilr.'I'r:unv. le~, sir; Ihn clunrhrs ecrlninl,y hn.\'n loolcrvl mll'ncnrnlJ)in g(nrrnl npnn I Icnv+. \lr. Alnonnv. "1'ha I,uhlic srLunh 6nvo disc,nlrngtvl I6 usn f toLn,.,,. I)r.'l'raaln-. 'Ihis I.vl.rne. nlr. Al.,crc.,r. ns:t rnnllrrof rnrt.lnv \vifetold Le it.,\'ns:l sIlippiug ulronso Lc swoke riffnrclles in 6rr;+o(14l I'resbyterilw c,ollelre. '19nt1, wits ,)1 y1V\t's:Lti(1. Now, I wmlt to Icnow whnn ILis conccan Ihn.t hrornplyd Ilris nr,linn outert;ed? lYns ilIlln ine.rnnsing ineideucr, of Inn}g ca.na,r, nr was it.ll,(, l6rli,d I lmll hmR runrnr wuc u,~~uinlyd wil.lr I6n usr. of IoLarrn? I)r.'Ibaen\-. 61 r. NnIcny, I 1 hinlc I hnt. IheIendcnc.V in Ihis dirrV1 ic,u- null Ly Ilw \cuy, inulfcr as I aol conccrncd, we are not. Inllcing nLuul. n mnrnl i~sue. 1. II,inlc Ihe Iendnnr.v irt Ihis dirtxA,ion Lol!nn 6a,%k in ILn cnrl. P)u0's vv'6en Illcrn Lcmu.n lo bo o1 rery nnliccnblo increesl, in ILc,

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22~1 Cn1AHlYI'IP7 LAltl?LING ANP AUVIRn9lR1Nff-1066 111r.Fuu'rla. bfr.I,'ohors,utnylsuy,sir,IlleAluorionuCnneerSociet.y, hy uu luenns, sin;.,+les uld. sluolciug. 'I'hcy :un devut.inR.._fur rx:unplr, t.he _lwrrirnt Cunrcr Society h:u5 np to Ihis lunment ronttihldwl $:i011 lo Ihis intcrngatl';y anutcil. '1'hoy rnisrll orcr$ll) nlillion 1nsL 3.n:u, ntosL of wllic.h n;ts applied Lo research, ednenlion, t.rual.luenl, nn tLntgs Lwciug uotJling lo du n'ith smokiug. T1'r. IAx;lucs of 'Coxns. R'ell, now, then T would gather frnnl fhnl. Ilull. you aro inleraslcd, and Ille Aworic:ut (,:Inrt;r Socirl.)' is inlereslu.l, in nllnrlcin); all of t.hcce mnt.lers whieh ynn fecl rontrilnde, lo r.unrr and Lo bnd he:lllh nu in individunl hnsi.c? Dir. Tuu'rx:. ludcal so, sir. it4r. Itlxlr:ns of T,.xtrs. One at a Litno? 11f r. II`oorF:. Yns, sir. 11fr. RlMr.ns of 'I'eans. Then you would feel that evmything ought to Im dono to holp ont, tn slap thr, s urnll of oanc,r,r, or gN.Linl, c:utcrr, by lut indit'idnal, no mntta horv little t.hnt.vvonld be? AIr. Frxrr::. Inclred so; yes, sir. A'fr. Iloaoats of 7'oxus. Thcn II precmua 111111 . your coonril :Ind yonr group tvouhl nudertvrilo a mensnre Iu rcqnire nll nldulunbiles In llat'e cxhnusL a.tIrtil uls? Mr. Fonrl:. No, sir; tce art, only tcorl:ink-LLo council itself is Ihe agency of Iltesu other agencies which luo workinlg in the smnking nnd hcalth field, nnd wo hnvt', as flu ns 19to interngcucy council is cnn- ceroed tcu 6ncn oo jln'isdie.tion,ynn mi);ht, su:y, in Ihc nulnntohilo or the nir pollnl.ion lield. I'hn Aluorir:ul C:ulrcr Socie.t;l' - h(r. Ilrxa;us nf 'I'exus. A'v.ll, n6clo rlid yon vet ynur jlu'isllictiuo in t.hnsmullinf!lirlll'? 1"uojosl.tnolcit.,didn'Iyon- Afr. Fao'rrt 1'orhults I lc,rd Illo Arnrd lao~rly. llul. nllr lilld of inlrrrslM issmuklnl;. 111r. 1{anees of 'Ibxns. 1NrJl, Ihntt is Illc quntil.inn 1 anl t;etli» {± nt.. 11'hy is it'roulined in slnulcin{;? Why don'It yon inl.erlsl: youeself in t.hcu+ nl l lrr 1.11i nl;s, t no? Af r. Fuorr. lYcll, nl r. Tin ~rms, i f I nmy sl~y sn, sir, one cnn nnly du so muc.h. You c:utnola bo:t jnr.lc of ull Inarles, mnstet of none. lo my own case, I hnppnn to sh:u'e Ihe feeling of mnnv of the sl:ienl.i6c peoplo in 1Le cancer IirJd, ILnul!h I lun nnl. u1 srie.nli5f, I.hnt. ciRnre.tlc swolciug-- thaLlnu;;c:nleer,furnxlunple. tt'hichisoneufthr.Itrodnelsofl.i¢urotdo sulolcinlr,tstltentosl.prevenfo.0)nfurtnofanncnl~ bowenre,worlciuqon suumllnn{, t+o Ihiuk tca cl.ul do snund.Liug nbouL. Afr. Ttnuuns nf '1'tcns. Rnl. you hn.v/. uot davoled nny effort. or I ina to exhnrlslA fuules from mdolnobiles, or exha,uslt froln, we will sny, stnokestncks, or rli sl+nsns ncsnci:d t11 lc i I h I ImRs such its Hil i elsis, :ntd t Itn t sort of thing, where peoplo are working in an ure.n where Umlr lmtl;s aresnLjucl ed I n Ihinf,rs that clulso rnncrr, nr ol.hur d isensos? 111r. hanr:. 1ho iulcrngcuqy o.uuucit ilwIf, Sit, in nnt, And I~hu rwt- smt 1 pol'snnnlly aln nnl, is Ihnt. I Ilnve 6ren nssorrd by tny wientilie friends in Ihe Annrinatn Uannrr Sov.iet,y Ihld, peollle ill I./ns Angeles, wLerc I lcns last. tcrrk, quitc aa srooglry rity--1 hal Lhe nnnstnokors don't sr_rnl I o get. Inqq rlntrer Lhnro, cil6er, cuull r.lre.ll Lu LIw ci;~:url.le Smokul's. A{r. lilxar:ns uf Trxns. In Los Ankrlcw? Mr. Furrrl:. Iu othet wonls, cir, I don'l. Wish to ho drnwn ildo n sc.i- outitic Iliscosslon, but. nll ol' Llro s:;icnt.isls Illn.L-I lcnow fenl Lhnl, n.ir pnl- lution iq 11 rr.lltlivcly vrl_y luinnr fucl/u' iu lmlg cancrr rampnrrll to 1'In.1nICl"I'R 1.411111.INU A111 1nl'llnl'ININq inn6 221 li.xnalpuf'Irx:ls. ILni il i.~nnndnlill~d f:lrlol',nirpnlhdinn. Nurc, vn arce uol. Ruiug In nllark Ihe rnorrr prnldrul, nrl we, Alr. lioolr, ml Ihn fncl.lhat, mllrv: tnu hrlouh lo 11 y!rulql Ih:d. Rels Ihe nlost. hw!1 t.nnrrr, lcv 111 r nol f!oi n-,, I o hell l.% un. 111r. lvuorp:. Nn, NI'. Itn"rrv. ISnI il' tcon c:nl h/Ilrllrecnut. nnywhrro frnnl 19 5,tltl/l ln "fi11,11011 dlnI I,s o r+nr, wn I hinlc wo 11'lll Inlro dono nmre I lnl o+cn Lal'c rtcr cxprclrll ludu. 111r. Ilnr.ens of 'I'rxas. ISId. y'nn :Ire gnim lo cnnline ,ronr nrl iril.ies, uu+c, I nci;;n 1'rl le smnlciug ? nl I'. lron,rt. I, rn,:a1(, ;un, sir; 1'rs, si r. :11 r. 16mu:nw of'frsns. 1\'hnl. ulroldr.it;:u slnoking? ;\It. Tnlrra. L)ur rolmr.il ic Inlrrrsled in rig:n Imd pipc smukin R, also, but. the lucmhrrs--l.lln scirld ilic memhcrs of Ihel rnuncil belirsr I IlalIhe big he:lllh I:roLlent is ciRlu'ullt~ sulolcinl;. Wo nrr. nol. adeol:d.int*, nny resl rirt i tn ulonsares nu pl pn null citrnr smolciog xl nll, si r. Alr. lil~:rats of I'eslts. 1'nn nrn not rloin(; what.? 111r. Ivurrrr:. I. nnt nnt ndenraling nny resl.riclirn lo/nsurvs, snrh ns n. lab/I nr tvarniu.rs ill ndl'rrLisiurr nu pipesnrti;;a l~. 61r, fLen:nn ol~'1'vxas. N'hul n6uut ::no/T llilrl~in ~in~ ur rllca'in;!? tSlr. Flrrr. lun rlnn'It swulcn suldf, nnJ yoo dun'l. smokn nhelcinfi I uh;lcrn, cn tt'n rlun'I i utrrtst oul'colves in I~ltot. I1tr. liucl~:ns uf 'fnxns. ftnlt arrwl't Ihc conlltonent Irnt'Is ur Iltr, to- hncea--hnvrn'I.lhnse.ieut.isls fonnd rrntt.hntt if yon krsepn.cutl or whnt- ovrr I hcv c:lll it, of tnbarco in yom jn.w or ynnr chcrlc srnnolc~tr.rc, thnf. I,hu rootinnlll ng {,ravnlinn thero ai11 r,ulsecnncnr? Nr. horrrh. I. haee rond Ilud, sir, hnt. not brinz n. 'cirnlivf, I dan't t.hinlc I u m I hn prnlmr nnn lo a~lc nlroat. fhut. Alr. R+xm,nn uf 'I'cxas. Rul, yuu nro cnntiuing ynra' urlivlil,:. ILrn, srrlldy /n ciR;n'cl.ln Ftnnl: in,m,? 111r- leunrr:. tiolnly, sir, to t.ryin~ln dn anythinR lre nan lllnl. trc lhink is Irl;al n.lrl rrotsonnblo n.nd Amr+rican to rednco clf!n.rellc coosunlpt.iuul llfl.It.11nRI1POf Cexas. '1,oredocseiqnret.tor.onso1np1ion? Alr. hotrrr.. Yes, sir. Mr. R/x:nlts of Texas. Well, now, if yon nre so sum, Ihnk 1i~:n'nl.to snrokint; is 1.hn c:uu;n of lang cnncor---I l;nlllerod frulu youl rcnun'lcs you ntt+ prctt.v trrll sold 11,111, d, is ILn pruonl;v '':uc:r l+hy dan'1i t'ou allcoanlo thn Ir.uulin~ of c.i{~mrrttes? Afr. lrlxrrm. Well, sir, I hnvn to n.nswor vou snme+vhat, phih>.ulphi- r;clly nn IInIL point.. 1 wmdll bn ns stront;lv nppo~wl lo I6e prohibil.ion of: c.ig:url.les as tho Utbncco indnsLty would hn. 1 Ihiule ttt woldd Iw wholly nnrenctlnn.hle lroenoso tLern are htrge nutnhms nf pe++ple who snlolcn o.if;:rt'cUu.s wit~t no aplr.uent, ill eecfs to Ihnin cwalth. And I I.hinlc Illr,y h:wo a. cnmpllto nghl. fu hu,y cit;nrnltes i f I hr;v wish In 6qv thont. 1 wouhl Illinlc it tvnldrl be nn inftin~romrrlls nn nur polsona.l rig,h l s:u+d I i Lcrl.ir,q l n hn v n~'.m'.I l a ban. A11. I.oanaw of'CexnR. '1'hon IInN't) is n Ihlestdllll :ts tu N'Ilel IIPI' Ul' Il/ltt ciRauotl l~e nll/ct, solne ltenple nnd rlon't alFeet olhe,rs? Mr. Frnrrl:. f dun't, latmc luty physician in America who hns ovor cnid thnt, cil*n.rettr:r kill olf or injnre iLo 1Leallh sriuusly of everyonn whn smolccs Lhent, hy nny mnuns. 11ro Irnotv thnt I horo n tr. rnany penpln who cmolce ciy;nreltnv iLn.lL hrt nlong lino, npplu'ently, tuul Inn.ny pcapln who don't.. Afr.Knnrd:nnf'I'rvas. Arlnall).tLnroisnlarremnlnrilvllull,lmrl;n

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1t/ l'IGAIiF:'J"PI9 LA19h11.INf1 ANIt AllVPllt'I'ISINV,-I116i Ilu hutn 22, 1:NL1, tile N'wlrlnl'1'rmle /;uunulsxion, after exlensive pu611c henr- inga. Issnutl a trnde rrgnhtliau rnla Ihnl "it i>a nrt Illdalr or IIncnPtive nct er prnctlcu . r. lu fali tn dinelusr, tlenrly /unl ptvndnently, In all INlvertlshlg nud nu every Pnck, box, rnrlun, ur utLer runtitiuer lu whieh ciRnrrlles arr snld tn Ihe euusmniug puhlic Ihn[ riymr/1c .vnmkfnp fx flanpmrouz to henlfN and rnary r.evac dralh (rrom cnncal' and n/flra ll/ir!aaY.r." I I.IrrhlntYlN Nt11qr1i141.] 9'he effee- tive tlnte, ns nmrndvd, af rule 1 uf Ihv 6"PC Irude rrRUlutinn rule reqllirinK inrlu.clua ef Ihe presrrihwi wnruluK slulenlcut rrinliug Lu htmlfh hnzarllR In Lnlh I.hc ndvcrllshlg nnrl h+heliuK uf ri/;mrllrs I» .Inly 1, 11N1G. Itt in slgnillcnnt Liutt; Iurnqae of the nctluu by Ihc r.ignrellr htdusl.ry vnllnltnrlly tn 1ud undrsirnhle udvrallrhlg prurlices iu the nrrn of hrnlth <qnilus nnd deceptive Rtalements uN t:n lhc qunulity uf ciRnreLte sutuke lugrrdixnls, the Gnnulinwinn tleterminetl that it wunW unt adol't nt Ilmt. timo thc adllilinnnl prupused rnlrc 2 and R rtIulinK tn surl: prarl.irts. Ilutvrver, Ihe I:uuuniuviun slnlnd Ih:lt it.'will runiul:dn n cinse uttrcniliunrr nf Ihe iuduelry's r'ffnrtx lu r4ndienlc. IilrnuKh vohmhlry eTmis, nll Irnara uf unfnirnt5s nud dt4YlNlon 11t nlllr+anllrL ret4PHPntlltlellN nr NnKKr:Ylln11.9 hl mlrrrllsiuK nwl Inbrling.^ Ipr .InuunrY 11. I/Ntq mnrkh:K il.e Iirst nuulvrrnnry of Ihe iasunune oP the Adriwirg (louuniller Itelxn-I: ou Su:uldng wul llealth tile SurKenu (lenrrlll, in :ul addrrNN Prrxrnted nt thn flnnfrrenrt af tile NRUonnl lutnrnKrney (;nnncil uu Nmultiug nud 1lrnllh, riGd fnc1.4 uud IiKnrrs slqqxlrllug his slntemrnt that u+rnwrrnLle nuJ racuturn>;hIK praKrov.a hns hrrN umde dnrhlf; lhe yenr." Ilt 1'Rrlhrr slnlod Ahat "1 nonhl Ilwlt m:p hrnllh mrsxnKU hna ever reachorl so nutny Iu su Nhurl it Ilmt." Alsn, Ire ruuuutnlyd nR the exlellsh'e "rrsenrr11 nu Ihe t'umpunrntn uf swukn nud Ihrir PhYiulqgirnt t9Tecl.v" beinK eouduelal by the Nnl ionul IunlH.ub:v uC Ilralt.ll, h} Ihv Prpnrt u1cuL uf AKriculfnra In clnsc coopcrn- lioa lrilh 1'ht 19ttdic fleali.h Srrricr. h", uuicorsilirw :utd fenndntluux, mlq "hy Ihe Alw'rirnu Nrvlicnl Auvochtlinn R'ilh limintinl helP trom the tubncre iudustry Ilsrlf. lu Ihe light. ul' Ihis hack>;rntmd tt'hile lm nirnugly favor norrxutvy or bchttblr IIgIshlliuu 1.: pruGrt Iho henith nud utfvl.,r of Ihc cunsmuing pahlle nuJ to pre- t-.rd rlrr'.. Plico ur nul'nir labeliug nNl :n1vM'llsinK nf con9111uCr I1ra1j1+Cts, we aru 11,11 ruoviurr:i if Ihte ueed for 11.11. 121-1 nt Ihls timn, nt.r t1o we brIleve Lhutt ennrImvut ,d 11.1t. 301 1 nr Il.lt. IIN17 rvunid he In Ilte pulrllc hd.erest. An lo Ii.lt. 31111 tuld ll.lF, i/N/7, niucr Ihe FtdrrN [I'rnQc VulunJusiua hau drler- miue.d Ihnl, nppruprlalc remcllinl Jrliuu Ie mrrt ihe Ilenlth hnz+u71 nf riKnrrlle wuokiuK rrqnlrr+iha rl!RUhPtinu nf ritiarrtlo nllvrrlltluK uv R enmPlrmrnt lo Ihe0 rrKUlalluu nl' viFa1rr11O bILr11uK uud In:z I:Ikrll huPlrmrnling oellon mt IIIe b:e19 Ihrrruf, we nrr! nnnhir lu .udnlre Irtianliou a'hirll tvnnld rlTrrllrriv rltprive Ihr l'nmmin.iuu ul' rrv;ul:durV :nnllnrily in Alu flol:l nl' rlRUrrllr ndrrrllninK. .1u I,. 11.14. 1317, lrc Leli,-rc ihnl. Ir-,i.-dalivr nLiuu mlgbt Pruporly na':111l vnwe iudir:dion uf ihe. efl'retiveuoac tr[ tile rrwrdiul Rclinn Inkelr IWd tlrnPnswl hg I.he IroJrrnl '1'rndrr 1'umnlissinu nnd hy ihe 1:16arcn indurly. 41'c ftilly rw'nK1Jr.n Ihnl. Ihrre iu llu a.aur:luro Ihat'tldv t.rrm6lurd nUtlnu l:,r tile Cunlnlivaou nutl i.he iudnJrY .vill pruvirle tIho pllhlic .rilh IINnI>le lrrtruiua:r nnd Drulerl.ina. Nevrt- LIUJ.cN, tvl+ fct1 il'. ahuulrl W I;iv141 :t Llir Irinl Irefurc le;;i..l:rliau le nt'cumpllvh Ihrve nbjtrFivou is runelrd. Rnrlllr[ trLlh ..prrillc rldorrurr qn I.hn provl.xinrl lu 11.11. d^11 that Ihrre 71e ahu.ru nn Ihr InLrl ul' rnrl+ lulrlm);r ul' rienrrIltw fhF ulrrrlinc nad tar euntrn4 nf Ihrl citinrcllrs Ihtrrln, we iuvile nllouliua lu Ihc indirnlr(1 cxteu<Ivo, rrarnrrh dcomwl urreupor,v nud nnrroutly IreinK t-nudurlyd In 11118 Iirld. SVr du unt hcllova Ih:rlt il. Lnn L,rn acirulllict111y t;vlllirll.htd 7hn1. Ihl redntlieu or rlimht:dlen uf 1'ilq nitulinr, 01' :Iny ulher eprrllic iuKmdi,nll iu eiK;urttlr snwkc wlll sll;ni/icnully Irx,vrn Illr hrnllh hlrzurdv of ciRnrellr smulting (inllI ihere Im more <clruliOC ill:nliliratinn :utd dntn nn iltn IuKrrNirnlu Iu clKntvllo smukee whlrh rrrnin tile heallh huxard nud un lhe rslrul. Itr tvhirh Ihrec ingrcllirm1s uu+nt be rrnreved lu Ile ..iKniliruu't Iu brmr of henllh, tre I'emr Iha'I. uuy .ahutring uf the yirld nt .IRrillr4 inerrvlirnlT in cigr:u-rlle Nruukr uuq pruvldn n Rruu af fnlu nrrnr4ly und innrlp4qrullp ud.lrnd, rulhrr ihau Prolrcl, tum:nalel:v uf ci;;urN.tus. T'nr- t6rq SucIl :1 shnuiuc rraytrlin;; uiruliu,,. Inra, nr othrr rumpuneuls nf rignrel9e .wuko, ..hirh ia nu.xub>'lNntlatrll nN si;uilicnnt. it+ Irrn1A uC henlth, 11.14 brrn rw ~:n'Jrd 61' Ihu VrJrrul'rralle (;u:,unicniou ,1. nn nlhir or rlrrryrlive IntJc prnrIlrr. w,J, in rrrufi,ru,il~Ihrrrtrilh, In prahibilyd m:drr Ihr IIiK:urllr :\fi'clYivlq4 t;ndo nl' .lprll _7. Itlal. 17 L'Il:Altlsl"19'1 LAIIELINU ANU APVI':12TItiiN(:--I1)/if \Vc hncc Un ntiviNr41 ly ihe Ihrrtaut of the 1SndKct t.hatt ihero lvauld lue nu ecllun tu Ihe suhmisNlun uC lhls reVurl ftvm tho stttudlwh+4 of the nrltnlniaU'n- ohjecllu n Ilnli R IrrnGrlllll. Riurerr¢, llrnlr'.Rr iC. (4u.r.e, (/r:nfrat ('umlxrl. 'ru+t (1rrvaRAl' 1VnxIdn/1fan, IIAVS/f AY19PS. lion. tlttcn IIAnnIN, CARifurmt, (lununiftur mr 1nMrsfnte mtrl j,r`rrifPn Cnnrmr) cc, llnnxc n/ Rrprrxt'rrtrrRilvtx, IPaxkiupluM. Dl:.tlt 1fn. t'neuutAN: Itrfrrr'ncl lolllne lnln IInK n>t,l n h'rri1n11nK nfteignr 11: 'w I1eB:u'URrut nn 1LR.:41/13, rt Rll nnd for elher Purptlsev" 'l'ho DroP:"ell IrKlsin1{au wunld mnkc ilt unhtwful fur +nl)- Yrrsuu In luroun uc- , Pneknt;c fur lnln nr dL.trlhtdluu tvllhlu lhl 1lnilal NIni1W nnT lure, Impr:rt nr eiRnrrLGe1ho pnrknROUf u'hlrh fnilu lu hrar u Prrurribed sUlltvurnl n IulinK In Ihn hrnl/il lruznrd Invrdvrd Iu eiKnrttlr 1rnldtluK. '1`he Iturcnu af /;unGntf i~ollntin~~ m~ (iiC tlhclrt4p innl wcono nruU~>;1 99m llrl:nrt- tng hnPurG41 c1l:nrcUtS InCUt ayHUwcµ IInIF tlll! Ilryrh/l,l'MI IrI rSIlmttcnxr'titerl/rlntrlhttent ant rilellee nR In.rlrvl fer culmurrcinl Pnrlnret<t. umwual narn111rnted11cK1sIn11enlI1s4LULru1e I IG~nllrl,vttart:IKarrIlre1Iu11MrIn1"nN evcr, -Iho PTOI N1:^uNKerti hngKnge fur Ihr, prrxt,nul uSo °i dh exllrlllu~ trrtcitnuslncllvlllvNl la 1 pnv wnnld lnvulcc dl/llcullits shtce Il .tt I 1inlRl rnllnrcllun wlPh Ihn nirt.e1V r nl.t.irnlnrlg UrRrlsts11b1InK nrlirlrs 6r:rnKht Inln Ihe IIn11w1 SInIrN hy I~wcputi .1 '1'hv Ilolfnrluleut.l +nnld IuilN~luf 11~ladivinl4trn~Heti s IruKrnnt In 41~~ti'uhntinNln~ohjlaTiuu Crunt the 4 . I t I dAl e . . uf Ihla rrlHrli.le 8onr cnurn Rlucel'elY Yenr9, Vnel. lt. CsnTl[, Ar./tep (7cnm'al OnNRAal. IT.q. 1)r1rANTr1.NT nr' J1B'1'4'r:, 1/VGI('ll r/r"r11Y1 I11:1'1~'I'1" A'I'I'onNII irvhlinnlrNr, 11,1'. IInR. DRRN 1tA11NtN, f!Anirnlrnr, (.'omvltfr.c nn Intcretnle nnd NmriOn Cmm~rcrnc, Ilnnea ol ttrpr<:vcninlinr.a, R'nnafuyfau, /1.C. IInAR Afit. t)nAIRInAIC ['ChIN IN in tl`filx'tht~r. Irf.lt.T'ln IL l I,til.it.(4IXri~l,nn:lrlf 11 epnrl.nnnl: oP .la+liro un Lhc hilln, Il pnrl.nnnl:. ll e 4'SN, 1'rlnling lo ihe InbldirlK rrf rig:a'tIlee wllu mN(Nrt in elr cll'Iw'f. ell htall.h. If.R. AM:i wonld mnka iC m,iniiftl~4'tn'tlm' Drnrtirrlfott1ounur4~'a IuwlrY+tLhC rununrrrl. nud nu ImG1Ir ur 1 IrrAel'nl I'onllni=nlun ArL lu nuu:nfnrl.llrtq Iu1Par1. m' PnrkuK~' h,r nn t br rununrrcv :up' PncltnFe uf riKnrellrN ehlrl+ dntN uuL htnr it plnlulc IeFihlr wnrnlug rrndLn( "lA+uliuu: t1lKnrcllr' S~.Inljru xhnll cuns'IfIuG;J~111Vrrrlnyll.n llonllh:' '1'hn hill Pr°1'iJrn 16nL l61 h L r,f the nnhjt4!1. tunfter, nnd Ihnt It ahnll lnke etlect 120 dnyN RCl.er rnnctntrNlr.Wr+l Idenllvnl hi11u tL11. iNNM1'rtln' kF- If n' ~nlr IortrdlHlrlbulion ltt!ill in LM3 Ilnil.rd lu m+untTnrlnrc, ilnivn'1. 1 r ill Futlr:, nuy eianrettre tile P++rknuto Mnlvlltetllnertnrh+uu t r Yrntr ]ha Iltl~'Rt Ihe nrnnl.: "Onutinlu ClgnrrLLo Snu 1 6 hi11N Pmvidc Iiult nnthinl: Ntorcin uhullni~InnlvllhrnulrcFtMttlle r111sSr41/tlnnlloo- nulhnrltY nt llre N'edcrnl Trnde Cn:un I iu runuucrre oP+my fRlse nr misl.Iwnl>z`i+an RI NInuhlrnvr ali~nnlh.ullYvtu n- t11e. idlln Ittxu prnvide Ihnt tile Lt I rnlirn tile iucltwiuu lit nny ndrtrlit;rutaut.nf m'Y Rtllhvlllulrrrli! ~41uiiFR+v,IG,.+thn`d In hrnllh inr:dved lu NlnnldnK :'I~Rtr Inlmling Irrovinlene nf Ihe 6ill~. All hrdtrnl .~rn purltaKrtl lu tnnfurmil7 tcllll II IIIIY ndditlun+rl rntdlnnnrY ~Gdllurnt. lvunhl Lr I,rrrlndrJ h'um rr,pllrlllK

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CIGARETTE LABELING AND :1DVERTISInG-18G'a THURSDAY, AYEIL 15, 1985 HoCsE OF IPErAESENT..Tn-E~, COAPAIITTEE ON INTEnSTATE AND FoIItSG\ CO][MF12CE, mashingron, D.C. Tha conunittee met, pursuant to recess, at 10 a.m., in room 2123, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Oren Harris (chairman) pre- siding. The CaAn<Ac aN. The eommittee will come to order. 1Ce are plea,~ed this morning to have as our first witless in colmec- tion with the cigarette hearings, Dr. William Ober. Dr. Ober, n ill you conle around, please. Dr. Ober, 1 believe you are also a pathologist from the huicker- bocker Hospital in New York. Dr. Oaca That is right, sir. TheCxAlR.raN. Youmayproceed. STATEMENT OF DR. WILLIAM B. OBER, PATHOLOt#IST, AND DIREC- TOR OF LABORATORIES, IINICBERBOC%ER HOSPITAL, NEW YORK Dr. Osex. With your perlnission, it is a very great privilege to ap- pear before this committee which has given such excellent attention to this interesting problem. I will read my prepared statelnent., and I may digress from it as the occasion .I~arrants. The CxAIRacAr. Thank you, Doctor. We are pleased to have you. Y ou may proceed as you desire. Dr. OBEU. Thank you very much. I am Dr. William B. Ober, of Tenafiy, N.J., and New York. I am a doctor of medicine specializinp in pathology. I am director of labo- ratories at I~nickerbocker Hospital in New Y ork, assiatantt professor of pathology at the Albert. Einstein College of Medicine, associate pro- fessor of pathology at New York Medical College, and consulting ]Iathologist to the 1st U.S. Army Tfedical Laboratory in New York. liy curriculum vitae and list of publications are attacled to my state- ment and will be filed with the conlmitt e.e. I have been interested in a number of problems relating to cancer ever since 1948-50 when I was a research fellow at the National Cancer Institute. As a pathologist I have had the opportunity to examine about 10,000 cases of cancer in one organ or another over the past 18 years. I have probably examined about,1,200 cases of lung cancer both as surgically removed specimens and at autopsy. I am conversant Icith a reasonable proportion of the published literature regarding cancer of the lung. I should like to direct my statement to the question of the relationship of smoking to cancer of the lung. 337

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210 flulvtlel°rp1 LAltl~aINr 9NU An1t:IfrlnIN,--1ofi. l~ul.lubrrrFl I,~Iiba.lA'r; lyn APt~4:Irr1,Cf7mu 19,5 211 ndnlL Iwbil-Itt. rrrokuizt+1'r~ood ildrnlious 6erv--lrnl.lhe farbmnwius Ilud. youeg Ileuple'S "'renlrsL tvish iti lu Lernloe :Idnllti. If rit;'atrlJn tiu:oking is :1 sihn uf mnlmily, of nuhdthard, it will 6ave m strnn,% nppe.n.l, \1'o aul Ilelp rnnuteral'I. IhaL :Ippe.ltl, I Ihiuk, Ly uwr e.duru- Iiunnl prn;;rnllls bul. 3v/: nred also Lllo unruiug lil nn ndcnrYining nnd t.il!':treUe, pltrknrt5. lleure, Ina;v I lnl]i utyulf (irnrly on record ns oppusiug Ihose nlenswr,ti IIwL ticnldd dirrrIly nr indiroot.ly prevent the FedtaItl '1'rade (:uwluission 1'rurrl nrlin;; Io prutea.L 6he pnblic by 1Lr tinpcrvision uf ndve.rl.isinh't 'I'LeciRral'e11e IrroLlem IsrlilPel'unl.l'rwn ullrnyolhnt' rolenlin.l ihrrnls to lifo nnrl Ilealllll. As Sennlut Alaerino Nru6m;er ~Ins poinlyd nnt, aldmmoLiles nltll n.lcuhol mlly 6o dangvrous, but only when f6cy nre aLused. (1iku.rcllts on t6e n(Iter Land are ha'r,nrduus when l.hey are ustld jest ns Ihe, nrlverlising nolc rncouueends. Even Illp motlernle t.ig;tre/to smoker runs it health risk. {Vlren 113isLabit, is formed in rhildhnod:lnd youth, il,btaunles filndy fised :rnd 16en in 1.6e mnsl pralurtiro adlJt. yenl:9 of flmlily respon- sibilil.y frnm 611 In fiK (35 to GIt yr:us ;Ifler ILn habit nns slaried) t,hee peualty is lon often potid in ihe fnrm ol' rapidly fa(nl Inng ranrnr, tlisabliuRhr,:u(disrasr,Itndcrip Ilin;;eurphyw'nla. {Villt all duo rnsperl., I url;ol~lnl. yuu borreided in ynludeliLeraJ.ions uul. 113' n rlisl int:1 nrinorlty uf plryei:iaus antCticicntisla blrtby the le:lders of nlediniue, by the upinions of inen luld wumcu tt-Itaro lives Inwe luen llttvuled In rtsearah uud tr6o are'Lest ynfllitied lo pnss jndgntent on ILe titicul ilir. Ilrublelus irrvulecd iu klle rllnsc nf disralsa I 3rantt to repeuC nnd rnlphusize 111trt Illere ia no question bld. Ihltt tlte va,stl nmjnrily of physirialls IuJay nrretrlIhe finJinRs uf Iha Advinury Commi5lee lu t.he Rrrr)reml (ieue1711. 'I'6e prublenl of Ihe eigrmnUe in om, wwiefy is a I.hurny otw, ail.h uluuy rnntplex nsprrls /n it. (hl Illinl,r is cleatr, lrmrmer: it is ae raaso ur dt-nlh aud diseascun a I'riglllenlnrly nulssivesrnle. '1'he, old Rnnlun tlor.Iriue of ourt+nt emldnr-lel. Ihe huynr Ix'a'v-e-nmy Ilnve Ixrn c~rn~abin in an enrlier tlny~ Imd ngr; Lnt in f6c culi;;hlened society of today, Iho mollu sllatdd run, "Lol Ihn Luvrr lie 3~~:uvvd." '1'Iteru is ;In nlyrenJi. 1n this, r;ir, 3cllir6 iv jnsl. a smmwuy, n.nd 11 tt'ill sl(I11 (llllt,. '1'ho ('~IIAInnrAN, I)o you lcisb it, In Le inrlnlled ns It plv(. ef ynnr prese.ululion? I)r. {Vlr.:.l %nrs. I tvnultl lilcnilloho inr.lnded if ilmay. 'I'he WILAIIrA.1N, I4't lt'I)e 111CI11lI/M1111 thlfl llfllilt ('1'13e nppendis to 1)r 1Vri llinms' slntrwen6 refertrod (o follows:) lit rnurhtsiuu, n1r. vhnltm:ul, I tvunld like h, ndll Lhe follumiug pnlula In my a ril 1 rn I rntlrnat,l' : L'1Iml Ilru Amrritm: th:nrrr Sorloly .vlrnuplg uuJ,.rxrt, nn:l nnPpurlu Ihr rtvuumlcudnlinus uf tha ILti. 1'nLlir 11ua116 Srnirv. Lhr Mwiernl 'I'rurlr Cnnmds- ni:nt, wn11Le Nuliunnl Inlrrn/;vury Cuuuril ou Nlunkiu/; nntl 1lenlth t.hntci/;nrel.le pnrltnurs und rit:arritr. n:lcrrll~inc r::rry trwoulua;a uf Il:e Iltnllh LnzurJv of lIr;nrrl lr u:nukinR. S. 'Ib::t tcr aFrrr oilh Ikr Snri;rrrn ttrurrnl Ihnt 1:Oe I}°pn of trnrn/ng rnuhl Nrrll be Irfl. In Ihr ergnlnlnry uFrnrlrs uf vnr /.urrruunul. rhnrRrd trllh Ihes re- .ryxrnul6ililtvn; uruurly, Ikr Pund nud Itr:lg Aqndnlsfnttlnn for n-arnings mr pnclurr;rs nud Ilie Rrtlrr:d Trndr /'u:nmisniun for w:lrniu/;s on nrlcrrliuill);. :t. 'I'Lnl Iho :lrnrrlvuu ('nurrr tinrlMP m'nr. l'.uucronn naf lu rtmrt Ir/;inlnlim: IWrt tclll Prurrul. Ihr.vr I"rdrrul nr:uri:.s ul npph,prinle Vhne rM inrnl uk't'11rira 17nni nrr3 hµ; nl. Il:rir rraK I u.ibililirn rmnrniinq lirnlll: xwndn9u un rit:mT l(r IIItR'n,lIa31s. I:Iko, sir, 6ntr rrsalutirtu,; hnm curitnls nuIlirnl nsNaiatiouit Illnl. if I lun~', I rcwllil lil:c lu 13:nc iurIudrtt tcilll luy tesl iwnuy. 1'he ('11.1mntArl. {Fill 3'nu irlenlify Ihem fur I6c, rerord nnd iel.l.hrln 6einrlndrd. 1)r. 15'n.l.t tnrc 'I'Lwdt yuu,nir. I tuyau wi~h moln rrud Ihrm 4 'I'he.('nMmnlnW Nn,jesl.loidrulifytcltollleyarr.. 1)r. {VnLLlal5. {Vnll, ILrre is Ille. Aweritnu AxwnInlion fur '1'Ln- rnrir tintt!rr}; Aulcrir;nl ('anrer tiuritI,y; Nalional'I'uherrldonis Am- sarinl.iult; 1'ublic Ilt~alldl ll:an~rr Assrn~ialion; Aeurrir:nu 1'nblir. IIe:tIIL A~uMlr.ildiau;l.he.lulw'irnu Ilrm'IAsn:nialiun; Amrrit:ul nlrolical As- soriulion 16n refcrrurc rntnuiillee on puldie hralth rrrumnlendrd the rrtiolol iou trhich 1c:IN t heu pasvrd by thc hunuf of delegates mnkint; ilIhe oflir.ial pavilion of llle. Awerleuu Atedieal Assornu6iun; t.hn Altlerialn ('olleg e of ChrM, Physicians; the Alnerican Cullege Ilenlth Assokintinn; tLe Ameriran tichuul Ilealllr Asstxial.inn; (lit, Soeiety of 1'hornric tiury(cuns; Alnerirnn Associ:J.inu for'1'hor:lr.ic tilu'Rery; 5neiely ol' tila.lo I)Irrrl:n's fnr Ileallh, I'LVsirnl I$dm:Ilirnl, :unl Ker- rrnlion; Surp;ruu (Irurt'al uf 16n 11.5. Air Forre.; I'liwideul's ('rnn- ulissiun un I loarlI)isel~v, l'aurer, and SIroke.; tim~gt'on 1 irurr::l nf Iho 11ti, 1'uhlir lfeallll tiervire. 'I'Ire CunucmAN. ImL Lhnl6r iltrlndcd iu I he rerord. ('I'6c mnI rri:tl referred tn fulluas:) Cmvuerrln ha:nlnrrn: A tie:wuna 11r.nrv'n llnra:m? I'u.riliumv uj Alydirrd urrrf Nrinrli(c t4'ponicnlinnn 1'rrlalu phg.irinnu hnrr Ir.lllk'd LiTure run:rnil.lrrs u( Ihr 11.,y. flrunlr wnl llouso nf Iteprezeulnl.iw-s Ihal. Ikr3mro unrnurhtrrd Ilml ri¢nrtIlt swukhtlt Is ImrmPtl. 'I'6rsc LdtyulrlAnx hncr a ril;6t lu diuaotcr tHlh tnnorilc rqAulnu bul. Iho3' rrprtvrntt n vory nlunll er{pneut ul' mrdicnl nntl aelenl.lllr nptuion nud they qptnk uuly :a lurliridunlc, nnt u:: rcyrrnrnULLice:v uf nny uuvliral urFnnlznUou 11. fnrl, rerr3' modirni :nnl hrnllh ar/;nulznlluu In thix rurwiry :u:d nl:ronJ that Lns 'ludirri Il:iu Nnhjr:1. lulx aproed tcill: Ilte rnurlnyluuy of Ih: 11.;1. I'nidlr IleNth Rrrrlrr Il:nt rll;nrrllr nntuking la n n:rimw krntlh Ilnznrd. Aud nn mrdl- rnl t.r puLlie hrnlth or(rnnir.ntlun Imlt stntrvl Rlmt rit;:u'eli.c.nmiaim; i+ uul lulll- rinns In hrnllL. '1'hr nl.larhrJ ulatrmrnls m'r e0drure Ihlll Ihr rirtc rqpros.ril L,r Ihrre "unrum tlur,,,l pL7nLdaui' nrr. in runllirl. wI1L Ihc 4usllluuu trf wpJur Vrnfio:ni,lunl ol'>!nniznllnns In Ihlu rnuulry--urg:wirnllunc of tchirlr son:o of Ikenr PLy~lrinns Irnn nrr mvmhrrc. '1'hr is.uo ir: Arr IM1r henllh wdicir+ id our N:dkm tu IH drtrrndnrtl bv uvrrwhrlwina; srienlilie rlidrucr or Ly Ilu c:rnt.rnr3' view ul' it frtr iuditiJnnln? A-rntrlrmt a.r.rnrinfinn forTlrurnrie Aur'rrU 9YhennH tLere is Irrefutnble cridrntr nasotlnCing rlcnrrlln nmuking 3rith nnrh 1rl6nl nuJ diHabling dlenrvlern uu rurJinvnxrulnr Iliwaue, puUuunnry rlu- physraun nurl rnurrr nf ILe lanit; nud "11hrrrnv Ihtu rridrurr hns u:nnnhtlarl I:rrgrl3' frm ihr ulrtarrnlinus it pitysl.Lut. tu:d smy,ruuu ruurrn:r:l n'llIt pnluum:u'3 nn,l rnrJintaurulur JInr:n:ru; :mri .R'herenc Ihr ovrnrkrl:nlnK rcidrurr uf nlnrnrluR inrrrn.r if ....... dt:dll nud Jiru:Lilily Is munl nppnrenlt lu Ikurnrlr nnrg:rmn; Imd 'WhrranK Ihe ollml brnn.Ilrc tfi mrvliriuc nud Ihl V::Idir luul: lo Ihorarlr nuq;rrnw fnr Iendrl'eltlp In tHmling trilh LLIn vrwt Pltbllr henllh pru6hm:'1'hrrv- fnle llr It "llruol:'rd, 'PLnt Ihn Arnnrlrnn Acvnritrtlun fnr !rhnrnrir tiurln'rT nrlfe nll il= tnruJrrrv Ir. Irdou.+ify nu rdurntl..unl nm,pidr;n dlr,rtrd l,nrnrd Ihr pnLlhiu grurr:d, :Inq 3'uuth iu partirnUtr, rr4nliv, In fhr lunllh baznrJu ,f .,mukiuy:: :uul -,r it 1lnihrr

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CIUA1tET17: LAItLIdNG AND AllVERTISING-19fi5 WEDNESDAY, APRIL 14, 1865 IIODNE OF REPREBENTAT1rEB, I.~iOMifII'rrEE ON IN'1'EItFTA1'F, ANn FORS[ON C'iOMMERCE, TVaahington, P.C. 'f7te committee nlel., purstutnt to rececs, nt 2:50 p.m., in room 2123, ItoyUnnt Hoase OO'iee liuilding, Iton. Oren I[urrns (eLnirmsn) presiding. 19te CIIArnuaN. The crnnmiU Ni will come to order. Is Ih.'Phmmfts Murnn LereY I thinlc in vi(-.w af life t.ime elrment,l)oclor, n.nd in view of tLn fact Lhnt ynu atrn here nnil,ing, tlnlt. +ve .cill procrotl. 'P6ero vvill tre otLer mrlolrorq alung righlt nwny. STATEMENT OF DR. THOMAS J. MORAN, PATHOTAf}IST, DANVILLP., VA. I h, 111t,ItAN. Firat of all, ltlr. Chairumn: I sLotdd Iike to Ilmnlc you for tLe opporl,tmil.y o f a.p'ietui ny; bef ore t hls r.umtuit.l rv~. 1 P.m I h. 'I'burnun .1. INm~nn, n. pul.h.dn/~ii.t, nf Ilmrvilln, Vu.. TAcnn Iwn-u uca.r I'i1.I::IbnrgL, I'n.,ntn1 rereirrrl ulp etloenlluu nl Iswgloy IIiRh ticllnul in I'ill dnuy!It und Id.16n I Init'rrsil y' of I'i1L'ihur;!li. I rrr'vired lily ALI), dn~rrn froul Iho Iluicarvil.y uf I'illsbnrRh tiehool of 51edi- r,ino in :It)aG. 1 itderned at 16o Hlorey llosIlil.nl in 1'ill.tiburgh and I"uk mV rv'.vidnne.y in pnlholnRy nl. 1Ln 1'ittslnnt;h city hasfntrd. I lutrn Lnqi in 16n I~Pm~l,ir~. ~uf pnlluAo/5.y fur nbont RB yrvrrn. 1 hq'iu't I hiv l imo I have u.lur IN.etn tfit'tw:lur uf I,Itn I ~nnnr elinirn or utn ho:+pllaln u'il6 tclticlt I lmvn Iwon nssoeinietl. 1 tven prtlfev.wlr of pnihnloyfy nk tlte llnivnrsily of 1'illsbmglt Sc6o.d of Mtrlicine n.nd ])itrnlory TAdannd,0rics at Lhn 1'revby/4rinn-I /nu, rsily ITnspilnJ of life llniver- sity of 1'ill.drurrh Afwlicnl COnlrr m+lil Aul!u.vl. 1912, +vlirq I nrrrplyd Llti+ Iwniliuu uf dirrclor of Inhnndnrins nl. Ihu tllotuoriul IlospilhCl in l)anvillq Va. I mm A diplomnln of the Anuair,nn Ronrd of Pntltology nnd n metnlx+r of six ptnl'es9loltnl 1)ntholo~',Ictl.l soN;letleR in 111is cA111111ry ~, Ihe 1'ntholo~.icsl as well as life intnrnnl.inn:Q :lcntleuty of I'nlholor y Sa+iet.y aF Cirent Rritnin iurd Irolnntl aud Iho Cofiet,m of 1'nthnloRisls (Great Britain). I have bocm prn;+itfent of life PillsbutFh PnlLnlugy Sor.iety, ILe 1'rnnsylv:rni:. Azso.+iidion of Clinir+l 1'alhulol!isls, and vicn prrcident nf tJ+o V'irginm 9tx.irl.y or Cliuicnl Pn.llrolngisls. 1 nm a mentbrr of Llhn lmblir.nl.ions connniLlre of two nirilivttl journels, (inrontnlog.y ,vul 11tn /ieronlulofiisl.. I Iwyr pnltlitdietl nppruzitnnlrly II)iulirlrs inmrilicnl jnnrnnltl,mord 11 u nl Ihnlhur Ililh Innlr Imlhnl yly, Hvvrrnl nf uly I ul nlilrlru

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`Ili CIOAnPa"r14 LAIIhLINf7 ANI) ADVN,IrrISIN(7-1!1R5 A1r.RoaYlnsofl'oxns. hlr.I)ixuu,Int lneRskunolhinqfurthorocnrcl. 1Vonld you ot yont IRwyer I;i rr, uu; (lie citation where yull eny thnt yoll havo t.ho Rufhorily iu Lllo lirst insllulco to protufllght.o Lho ralo whilal yon did pronmlgale wit.h rognrrl to I llis sitllld.ion p T'lr. 1)fao.v. IWus:tskcd Lh;d. saule thing by tho SomlRte. I hnvo in lny hmld Lhcsn papcrs right 114,10. 1 wotr)d snggesC yon InRlto il: a Iwu't of t.hr. rr.wrd, sir, N1r. Knox,ks of Texas. I)o yun have :t specilic citnlinn of tho IRIv 1,11111. wo oun huve inclulh~l ill Ihr, rrrnrd, a 1't'ry slmrt und brinf ohr,9 (;ertainly it.lronldnul rr,quirt>--- nhr. I)ICUN. 7.1: just is nolshart, Mr. Congressman, nnd I Icll yun that I wuuld 6avoa hard l iule inlprovint; upon il.. There:ur.hwlJrods of rital ions iu these ull;es. 'L'Ilny nlr colurt rnscs. ''ll0 ('nnumnlAN. '~'hflt is imporlnnl, bul. I tltillk A1r. Ttogers iv trying Ioret frnm you whtilisyohr h:lsis fosl,uI fronl. nlr.I)IxoN. ]rorlhohllsisforillo:lolhority? hlr. Rulaens of'Iexn,. Fur tho nnl6orit;v. AIr. T)ixnn, lot lnc nl:llru IIIy.~Y11 f c1t:91. Dlr. I)IxnN. 111 is sl./tl.rllnry nut Iluril}-. 61r. R/Ir.I:nA of 'Prxnx. I qn(II'rilnnrl it is slnt.uhoey. 'Ihc lloint, of tlle illinh is llli.v: thc Frllrrnl 'Il;uk' ('nnuuivsiou lr:Ts crcRtrd by l.he It v1-n, nut 1rr:dod by the tbnsl.ll:nl.ion. Aud as I onller- sl:uld (lx\ ln\c und Innyhc I hry hRre ohRnrrrll it., I hopu nnl.- thllt you Imll nu wore Rld huril,y Lhlul is rit~ru )-uu 6y~ 16R ('nn,qresti of Ihe I luitrll SI:11es !nuler Ihn slalntov pnstil/l I11: Ihr Liniled Slldrs in coulplinnro Iri1111hnCnn!~rrss. ~ Now, 1rh:WI;Inl after in the hn..iv. nnl Iloril.y 'frlwl lvhich ynu st:vY, alltl nul. all Ihr R11J,6ulily IcilIl Ir6ir6 1'un nnllcrlnkn 10 sulylnrf yonr ori;,.i nnl (lutLnrit.y. .'11r. I)!xoN, I t6ink I nn/lfr"t:unl yun,.tiir. Sectinn II of the 1/'odernl 't'ralle (louunission Art is runllv Ihr ccl'.y basis of Iho Rnt '1'his dr- r.l:trrs lu Lv, nnlRlvfnl Indair IuclhoJn uf cunlpcl itiuu in rnunnecco «nd lulfnir or drrr,l,liv-o nc.tti or prnrlirrs iu f'nulul(rlrc. Thr (`.onrrnaa snilllh:ll.llloyurC6nrrhydecl:uvIllullRlvfql. q j\(IR', ill 4e1'I Iflll :1- - -- AL'. 6nur.ev of 'I'rx:!s. 1 f, ynn 1\ill ric.lll :li. Ilmlt poinl ~Aftt (lhair- lunn, I leuulll :l,l; uun.lliolurir: luu=rnl Ih;ll tirl'linn b Im inrludrll iu Illn rcr.nrd RI, Ihis poiul. VIr.lhsl,N. In ilnrnlirrl) -P PI r. Rnuens uf-'I'e-.nA. In ilsrnlirr1N', 'I'ho.CnnutnrtN. Int it hc inrlnded f'1'hrllncnlumll rePcrroll lo fullutc5tl gn1~. G. Il:vr.un Tixrllnus nn Cnaun'rrrlnN nNn ' IlNrnnt on Ufx'.r.r'rlvn AIrA nn 1 11A11'1'n:fin. ISpllLAIN'I'a, FINn18r19, AIVn ()nnNkP np (lUA1k11Aafnry, APIF'.11F. ~ `4.Itfuo: 1'FU'n10'nas I:IR N'Ixl', 71D: 41 ti'1'A1', tiro, '' 4n)(1) llnfair rtlclhu/tv nf rouqrrlili,ru ' 111 : 15 II.}(,ILA, Nuas -IG,) iu rnnuurrrC, mtd llnfnlr nr Ilr. 1 rlilirr nrl"ar in~nrlirr.v hl ruumlrrrr, n1'1 hrrlLY dfciarrd lln1R)rfnl. ' O. O) O N 03 1 S1 Nolhitq; runlainrvl in Ihix Arl. or In :uly of (lln 1ntitruAt ArtA shnll rrndnr nuhnrful luq rnnlrm'Ix ur nf;Y1rnu:u/x Invwcriblry; whdmmu ur»Ilpdnlod prhv:q or rryulring n vrntivuc lu eutrr Inlu ruutraolv or nRrcemrnl:r pr<:ACribing mhdwnm ur nlipnlnterl prirrs, for th/ rra(Je nf n runlmnllily \rhirh brnl:v, nr the labrl or ruulni:u-r of rvhlrh Lrars, Ihr tradr nwrk. Lrnud. or nmmt, of the PI'fl(Inrrr or dt+11'ilinll_,:f snrh onnnuuJilv und lchirh ix ill frer nnd opnn (ronrprlllion w-Ilh (..1 ~I) clnAlil'1'1"19i LAnD11dN11 .1Nn AUCPll1'1'ItilN/i- 1965 I:nnminllll.lea uf Lhc [aunC brlu'1'nl rluwv pru0luvd or Illrlfnlrll fY nlh,rs, Ivhrn rnulrnrlu nr n(;nv:wonlx uf t.lRlt Ilrxrriplinu nrr hlwfni nn npPlird to IRAIrAstnlr IrrlnsnrtiuuA nndcr nnY stalnlr, 610~, nr puhlic llrllir)' Flmc or h/rlmflrr iu eRrrt In Rlq~ NhliC,'I'1rrllur9, or IhC Ulslrlel uf Uulmnhin hl whlrh xnrh rlKUlc la lu bC Inn11P, ur Io )chi/'h tlle cnllnnu/lllg is tu he tr:nlclAlrtld for aurlt rrsnle. (It) Nnlhinq (mltnlunl lu IhIA Act or Iu nny of thC Antltrust Avts ahRll ren/1rr nnlnleful Illr rx/rrive ut' Ihe enfurr('mrut of m1Y rlgAt ur rigAt of nrllon rrrmloll Iq nnY slNlda, inm, or Pullilr Ixdlry nmv un c~renf,irr in rRrrt In nny Slnte, '1'crriturp, /11' Ihe INAllirt nf CniRmLia, lchirh In auhulnnro ProvhlCs lhnf lclll- fRILY :uul kua\vhlgly ndvvrtising, ulTrrhlH fur xldr, I.r uellhlg nny r111nmIx1i1S Ot bxa (Imn tllr prNoe ar prirrx PraxrriblIi hl snah Ivldrnrla or ny;rerulruls ahrlhrr Ibn prwln vu ndvtr11sb1It, nITrrlnK fur rvnlr, nr "r1i1nR Is or Is nnt a parly In wlrk n rnld rnrl ur Rnrrvlnrnt, 1, nufnl r cwnprl il ion nnli Ix ncllunnLln n l 11 1 snIl uf nnT plaxun Jlunnnrd Ihrrrbp. (41 Nrilhor Ihu Rnlltin/; of cnntlar!u ur nPrormrWa h. Ilr:;rriblq lu pnruBrnPl1 12/ Irf (hiv en111,ecrllnll, rnlr Lhr osrrrinr of enfnrrrmell( uf nng rlFhl rIt /u'Ilnll na JrnrribrJ hl plrrnurnPh 0) nf IhiA ANfxrrtinu sllnll rnllAtlhllr nn unlnlvfnl bnrd(R or rr.an'ninl lqron, or htlcrfrrrnrc\vilhr ruuunrrrr. (6) Nothing rnnlnhuvl bl PnrnRrnPh (2) uf IhLv aWrAlr-llou xhnll nlakr hurfltl rnul.rnrls or uFrnmmJv pruvilliuk fnr lhr rvlnhlivhweldt ur mUhdrnnllre nf Ininl- nnlm ar clilnllnlyd rrvnlr prtr(r: Ill nuY ruuunudilY rrrlrrnl In GI P:uvlKrnPh (9) of this anhArrllml, hrllvrru m:mufnrhlrrr.1, r W't\errn Vr/nlurrr.. nr Irrllc/ru Irhulrsnlrl.u, ur hvllrooll Ilrokvr.. nr luIlcrlu fnrlnrx, or brllcrlu r1Inlhvs, or frLnroR Prrsnnv, Iirlnu, or rurpnrnlinns Iu rnmprlillun Icllh rn/'f nlLrr. (G) '1'hr 1!uuuulsniuu ia hrrrLy rwpuorrrJ uu11 rllrw'Ird Iv Plrcrlll InrxuR+, Ivulurcclrlpx, nr rnrPmrullunA, rvrlpt. fWdep, rnuunnn (urr{rrA Aulifnrt t:n Ihe .lrlu ('u rrf;ullllr cnuuuerrr, Idr rurrirrs, en/i foreign nlr rm'rirrs auLlrct In thC 1''rvltral .\rlRtlnn Art nf 11154, nud I'nrlnnr:hliwv, ur Ior111rrn1inua xnhjrct 14 Ihn f urkern Rnd 8lorltY:tt(ln Art, 1!)'_!I, IKPOht as hrnvhll`Il Ill x(rtluu 9(Xtlh) uf sltlrl Ael:, froln unAing nl:fnir mrlhuds uf tnulPrlltlon In rnnuurrv'r nnll unfnir ur deroplive nl1s or Irrnlqirrz In nmlulrrrl.r '1'rddir Nn. 512, MS(1 1'nnC.. 11,. iJrL 'td nrxrlnn, 11 IlL f7ni, nVVrnr'r11 bdf 11. 1!Ii3 Illlr hlr(llllrr Art, I/li lifll, li:!I), 111111'n,h'll Sc. :,1111 of !lllx A/:t, h\' Ilrllllnr: III I)r,l Illrrrr:f Hrc. S In )(1) tkrnotih (a). Lr nrrrln p..l unl. I'hrrrlnlnrr, b> 'Ln ' rtlner11/1n lf/ nf Nrrllnn 11417 nf ILn '('Ivll ArrnnnWlnx Adl nr 1!IaA," Ill Innr, 116tA. Pnblf. Nn . 9n11,'1L11, Isnlpnwx, 1'h.linl, iJ Frxv.. Oi cs4n, frL,lInl. IIIEA. thr IancanRC uf fnrmrr f4rr.:1In) 1 o'ux nnu udoll f. InxrrllnR Innnrtnlnlrl,r mnnwlnc Ihr, nnrJx "lo rr4Nnlr rnmmrrr , Ihr wrndx "nir 1'nl'rirr= nnd fnrrlpn air rnrrlrrx xnLJrrl In Ihr ('Ivll \rrmmnlica Art oF 1R1a." Im xrt uul In nrr. 6(A)(R): bA AII or AnR. 2:1, 1a[Y Ii_ Nlnl. 4/1:1, t'.1. Nr, 11), 'Irr.Ir~f111 Avhlllnll :\rt nr 1!1;Ia" \VIIX P1111/:1111111 11 111111111 III 11111 111 "CIeO \Irulunlrlix.\rtnrl2o3K~. n11nr,rrrd 1 abllr Nu. A5 Irln, Sf,lh Qr,ne., ILn- nll]P, Pr~lt. °. 1BRa, :Ilnrnllyd tlm 1nrkrr; mld Clovkp:rnls Arf. 11121, nn nnmuJrll 17 11.c.1'. R^n. ~ 7. mnl 72 alnl. 1i 19, 1i5n1 Ip- xtrlkhlF nlll nlmre Ib1 of vrr, 4/11t nn,l lnw,rllllv III 11n Ihrrrnf Ihr follmvln¢: :'/111 'rM1r i+rArrnl rrnde f'nlnlnlfxunr xhrln Illlr'C IMwrr Ilnrl )IIrIW11e11n11 ilrr IIn, Illntlrr InruKlu_ nvn1. nrnl fnn11 prudn.tx. Iivrv(urN PrmlurlP In nnnlmmfnrhu'I.d frrrn, nr VuNlry Yrndnrlx, u9drM1 fy ILIx Art 1+ nmrlr snflrrl In ihr polarr or Pu'Lnnrliun of U,. I..rrlarp, s fullu, x' I"/11 `1\'hrn Iln Nrrrnllu:v In Ikr r,nra~lrvr Lf ldv Jnllra rrqwIx uf Ilr:. r':.wud.:=i:w Ilinl 11 nmkr hirrxllC,l llunx nn111'npurlx In mU' rnsr. "(L) ln nnv InvrstlFntlrn nf, nr Prarrrdine fur Ihr Irtrvrldfn, LL nn.l nll..r:r:i vL.lnl!nn af n iv A.t antn11n1xlrrrll bp. Ikr 1'unnnlxxWn, nrlIiln,f unt af nr!x Ir Ir1u1w11'linnx frvrdrlne 1 nfnrhlrld frr,u, n' nu,dtr>' adurI.. mrnl, nlrnt fuuA prminrlr, Ilvrx!wk 1 ollurlx 61 m m~ n Ir tGr Cnmullxxbn ,1Anr,nlxrx thnl ~Rrvllee rxrrrlxr rIf Ilr Ilnaar or hll'Ix111rllnn n'll~l nwt"'rr In rr!nll anhw nf nnv nnrk nnnmad111eP Ix nr n911 Im !uqlnlrrll Ill tLr nLxrnrr nf W,rrrr ,r 111rIPdlrlbn nvrr nll nrlx ur Inmxnrllnux blvnlclnK nlleh Ivmrrnnllllira In snah irlcrxllpdkln nr nrorlrllhlg. In n Ilrr fn nvnirl unneceewnrr In1.I1rn11on If rfnrr Iq' Ihr un.~rrnnr.vrt nnd nurllrnx upnn tlm Indunlry. t6r 4mnmlxxlnurr P!nr11 nntlfY Ihr arrrrlnrc rf vnrll drlrrminn- Ikrq ihn 1'rnxmin WrrrinC luni tnc nrM or Irnnnncllnnx blm1vr11, efN ~hnll nd rsrrrlnr lurll rvnmjmu1111rxlif tba Freretnqln\lihln rt'nlrlnrx Ifrmnl llhrrlvle nf rlerll llrf)IluYroulli~c x,Pllllrx nlr /'IIIIr11xxN:11 nlnt Illl,'r`!N YIr,1l114 11, IIIx fIr1,11r11111'llr nll III\'IvnL'11nn11 xf. Ilf Yrlrrrr.,11114 rnl' Ihn In'rvrnllnn nf, nn'I nlh'Ir11 vllrlnllnn nf IIIIx Art 1nvnIr111l. Inr xnnrr' xn61r1-0 uullirr vnh/M1) IIV1 nlll rf unl llun im~is, .11.'rxlurl ll1r Ioibu Inrln nnlumu141r1r rRil ranu lnwl Inmllnil f nrv't mrn VI'm prndnrln. "(/9 1'h. IPrdrrnl Trndr Camnllxxlon xhnll hnvr nn Pnn'er nr p:rlxdlrllon Lrrr nup mnller 1'!111'1r 1' thlP Act In mll,te nllllirc tirct to the )Ilrixdlcllnn n[ lhr. Aerrrfnn, ralrp[ nx UroeI11r11 in wJlxnIfm fnl nf IidP nrcllmJ' v 9'he nm11e Pnfllr Lnw nixa nmend/nl xufsrctlnn R of nrr. 'u(n) nf ILr rrdrrnl Trndr 1'nnnnlnrlun Act (Iri n SO- 451n) (Ill nud :IA Slnl, 719) 1y xnbstllntlnn "Prrxnnn. Vnrtnla. .hlnx, nr cnrPnrnlinnn Inxnfnr nn thry nre sb,lrvt to lllr PnrkerP nnd StnrkynrdP Arl, 11..1, av nmrmlrlL rxrr~ t nx prnvtdrn In ne<. 4Rn111) f nnid nct" fnr mr,n PrrZ1nx, ynrl1~rm9flaJ f~ ndbnx xuhYct to Ihr 1'nrkrre nnd qlm~k.annls Act, 1921, 1 ut nx ''.. '-n(Ifl:l nf euld nrt" r.l'I': r:l. "..nnrl-Inn nrt

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2'Ili CIIU11tP71"I'1{ LAltl:IdN(i ANn AI/VIIRTISINU-111G8 plr. ('v.L.11vAV. 1'nu frcl lvil.h Illn yuunI pcnplc, Ihe allvrrliniug i:; /nnro iml/oli.nnt? f11 r. Fulrrr:. Vnsl ly sq yt:s, si r. Itl r. C.u.1.Alvnv 7'Inud( )'ou, 011t Chairlnnn. 'I'llu ('u.lulalAtv. Air. titdlcrticW? Air. Scrrr:srlcl.u. 'I'hnulc you, Air. ('hnirluon. I jlc;t Lavo tt conplo of yuest ions. I beliere u fen mnmenls ngo, in nnwer lo u qncsliun Ly the grnlle_ tnan fl'nlll 'hexns, l1fr. Pickle, you did nnfl aqlro with tfln stldculent llo posed lhnt almost nll smnkels knolv of tho 5m;;eon (icnernl's re- po li4 n ud possihln hnziu'tls of smol( in{[. I nolice ou pngn:S of yom reporl you rrferrcll in tleo pLlc.es to whnt you appnrenl.ly (:oneeive to 1x1 it Inr.k of ell'ecl ice iuformatioa or ell'ec- LIrC Ilc) ion in tilis nren Ilolr du ynu or Imtv would you me:tsnrn Ilm elfectiveoess of nctiolt thnt Init~llt be taken in tllisnren? D4r. 1'1/11TF:. IIOW Wol1I(Ilye(l lllettslll'e 11? 111r. S.vrreaelF.l,n. Yes, slr Air. Roorr:. Well, Ihe most. ptngmnt.ic ntensurement, I thinl(, sir, would be Ihe etfect olt soles. 11tr. S.N'rn<m`na.n. Aorl Illn fact tLnl Ihcre Ilas not heen a decrcnso in snle.s Icnds you to Ihe cmlclnsion, then, Ill:it tLe elfective 1enlcdisl aclion hnsnot llnen taken? Afr. Ienarr. 1 think it is lilce tLis, sir. I Iltink the elfective nrtiou has uol 6cen tnlcen-right. Air. S..rlwm~u:r.n. At what pninl. woldtl you feel thnt actiol heconles ellectlve? Air. lenn'rrz. 1Vken fewer people wcre dy'ing from tlle elfccls of nihwrnlle smoking. A1 r. S.vrrr:nrlra.n. Aud Lnw tcould ,yuu tucasure ILaI ? Air. Fuu'rl:. '1Leree nre nlnqy ~ca,ys of mlnsnrinR llmt. 1)r. Morlnn Invin of lioswcll I'nrk Inslittdv% moldll Iltn~e leays uf nlcusla'in!, it. Icnys, sir. Many other people scauld. I1. wonld nlloa Iq/ in many Dli. Sxrrr:kr tv.f.u. Well, ynu n lpareul I,y ntn ndvlxtd inl! tlnd I I hinlc I nln correcl, trlmt. you tvonld li~co to sel is nny time an nflrertisrment Perlaining to cit;nretles oc.cnrs, 16a1l there bn sometlling nlon;,r with it lo shnw thxt cignrel Iav arn hazardous. Mr. Foore. Yes, sit. Air. S.rrrrltrfr:I.n lo other tcords, y'nn feel thnt it is proper nf Illis time to fio into what mit;ld. Iw calMd couul crndl~crl isiuq. ;\h. Fotlrr. Yes, sir. Air. S.n'rrlsecl.a.u. I take it, from yo(r /eslimnny, tLnt yon feel ih is t1LO proper provinee of tile Federal (ioeetvment in our typc of democrncv, to impose cmmimadvert.isinl±tuld mnke, llte ndvertiser plty tltecosl of it? 11L. Flxrrr:. Not. ordinarily, sir. I tllink ILis is a very extraorrliunl.y enu. I Illinlc thl.t-Ihld, is why I lllinlc it is jnsii6rtl. As I said in my leslimouy in the Senate, it. I;ncs very murh tlgniust m,y 1:1'nin lo roconmlcnd this kiud of re;;ldallnn hernove. 1 clon't bc.lievcn in thn h'}! 6rolher philosup6y mnrn Ihnn nm51, peoplc. Ilo Rnt I Ihinl( Ihnl 16n dnalll nnd disnbilit,y Ioll is so I;rcut ILa.I. (longresy mns1do something tllmllt 11. hfr. S.t~~rtsnru?Ln. Nnlmilhslanding IILC facl Ihat tce:nr, cronlinq n 10. - rl..il I~.- lh',I nii11 . nlnr 1,., 1 l: /, 1~. ~iil li~ tal~r'~ tI11.AlIli'1"rh1 LAIIP:I,INI; AKU Al/t'Klf'I'14I\(i--1tlliF ,-1.~17 lllr. Foorr:. 11'hcncrcr Illc dcnlh loll f!els as Ilirrll as Ihis, sir, ou souu.I hiuo, elw, I I hiuk you Illihhl nrll ruusidor il. AI r. S.tr'rt:nrna.u. I I ln ttl uo fm'I hrr quest inns, '1he (:n.wanl.tN 111r. 1lfarkuy? AI r. f1l.tcu.t r. I 6n rc uu ttnest iuns, 1111t C6ai rlnan. 'Iilr ('u.ultm.tN. 111 r. FIn'mlcy ? 111r. F.tnrtnl.r:r. Btr, ijnolc, I )1ou1 In 16:Ink yott for yolu cxrcllenft prewnlation aud thnnk yon fnr Ix'.rf(nrnlinh It pnldic,ycrvicet ll. is tt lillle dishrw'/cuiu~, 10 6enr Ilotl bad this is, nnd t.hcu In 61ne sucll a minor pl:ul for dninl; somet hint; ahollt it. J lolr Ionghns I llnt Ixtcn nl elfect in Italy? PI r. F/x rna. Tlco ;rnl l-u-lul.i f tun rs, I bcl irlc. Air. FAINeII:r, IIImsn'I rahlrrd 16n total rousmlpliou-jnst Ilns slolred don~n 16c rsle of Rrunl h, :un I cnrrccl ? 1Nr. FuarF:. Ycs, sir. I Ihink it trollid he nlol'e nppreriohle herr, sit} becnosn I Illink xdcerlisiug isa bie;;er fnntnr Ilere tllan it Irns in Illdy. Afr. FAnNSt,er. 1'om- I;uess is thllt Illost ndvertisinl; will slo'13 Mr. Frxnr:. 1Vell, you know, I rmulot hn snlr. I 16ink Illnl-I imngiun m6a1. they Nroldd Ilo is lest itt in celInin rilics nol turas nnd see lrhnt hnppenrd. Air. F,utva.t<r. I hucc :( slmrl sllllenlcnl I lcnnld Iikr lo pot in the record. 111nyLe.yon lrnuld teand to Inl:o il np lcilh yuur people. tiAunrss I+ I.IINr.n:o'ru IAnecrt Tew \"nltlc---I'..crhuluginls nre lurnlutt np nn Iqlparrul liuk Imllrrln r:lnrrr mn1 inunnn eloullnuc. 'I'hl;y nuJ that nlnny mrn nnd lcuulrn hnll slaforrd perlnds nf "nlinlss nnQ hnlxIrxsursv IuuullLU nl ptvus lo?ur/ I1/1 diwalu npprllrrd. Snwr or Illrir IlnOhl/(n "rrr JrsrribrA Ihl. ,rrrk tu n vuufrr/m,a nu P`yrhn- ph)SIOlogitS1111ipePIN of /:OICI1' spnllFrl11 I,1' Ih( \'/'N' 1'ul'k ,tladrlny of SrIv11PlV. 9TA'uA1'1eY uelu ,m'r AmunR nm ttranp,:f tll/l pnt Irulu. i_ prnrul hnJ n pntlrru Itl I hrir Ilfl hl.dori/s thot a':In 1)Ili/ml ol' aoiP 11/ prrrvvut nf olhor prupie trilkoni knulru Jia;ISr~ r,/dd Ilr. lancriro',. 1.. 1.,Nh,lu. P:yrhal~p.a ul 'rrulolt;,u~ Ili,.yllul uud Ib, Innllnnl of Itinlosy in.Nelv 1'urk qitv. All Iht~c rnutvrr palilule hn/l umlergnllr a feeling of tlevpnir hrfurl Ihrlr ennvors :IPW`Ilrrtl, hr w1iJ. 'I'hlre a'nw :t idenk huped'.non.v oLun1 rrvr ulbJulnl; nny nlraninl;, >.rst or vniillity In Iife," Is this snlnelhint,r nre-- hnre vo(n. penhle tsllcctl nllnut it? Air. Ieofrrr: 1'llcy lL:myl'1 lall:wl nbmlt II lo lnc. Air. I".nltNVl.nr. 'I'llis is ILo. Nca' 1, lt Timcs, Allril I'. 1 Icon1. rend e.vcrylllint;, bernosn I Imow il is Inle. An111A1H 'ImN/ler 'I'o nY FIIXYw ur AlJ. I:rY4H Rronreseurxl.r I/eveurt 1'1I11tR-('AllHV.l/ (1ANCRn ATI.AnTIC CrfY, April II. 'I'h(! NIIIIIIYtnllr(IIIA (11rel/lllllll'lll 11f l'Irl"-/'nmlYl rnnrrr ln lulllnnl. thnt Irerr Ihought 1.. 6n fml nf nll l;rrul:, Inl.u rrPol'Irti for the tirxl Ihur hore twin). '1'he uea Iledinx nnUrorn to henr stl-nnl;l,r uu: 7hr ullimalr qne.alun nr Ivhal rau.rn rsu-rr. 'I'hr rnlldily al' rvrltlill rt,urlu.iuun lllal Imcr b,"n lin.ad uu m,imnl exlw,rtlluels. Uw6r.l,lndin;; nf Ihr wnp Ibl 11100. rrnlr/r n.rrlll'v uahn'nll}' Ill hnm~lus. The rlPnrlt ulsu t111Knlxis Iimt nll nninmis--Ieclmling ol:m-:Irr hnru Icilh vb'nl1 iufrrlinlw. trhlrh nr,lp hnrr Inrnuiuu for . /ral n/11Liiuue. nnlcints frum sl.rnnl hrllllilln iu lank,u,in nud ulh^r r~~r~n. of ur '1'Ile tlLuotrry IvnN rPlx:l'Irtl In ihp 4nilt Illllnml IW9IInC of Ihr hrJrndiou nf Amerilvu Snriollrs fnr 1?xprrinirnlal IliI,V:p IpItr. \Im~ris 1',dlurd, It. \.

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170 ,'llidltl6'I"I'I: 1.1IIICLINN nNn :1n1'liIi'I'h'ilNil- Illllfr privilcrr uf srrviny; rrilli Ilitn fur ngnol wnnv vrars, nrld, consn- qucnl ly, ho lcuuws snmclhinf; nbonl. rcllnt /.hn prnldf~mv n.rn. Alr. tinrr.au=Ira.n. 'I'hnnl< ynn, Alr. Qhnirmrm. 1Vhut l nm di;d.nrhrd abnul, unvrrl.helcis, is in rundinp Ihr report an rvltic.h t.hrso findinRs ncro hnstd, nud in lislrninl,r lu I,hr. Lntil.irnnny IhnlI hnv5 bccn adducrd hcre, l;uu dislurhrd Ihnt. Ilm qunst.ion of sr:ionl.ilir hasis nn ahich nhsahdr rouolu.ionv nro prr^:nn,cd In Inn'n hncn a.rrivrd at., no,l 1he slnlrnn`nlw Ihntt have hrrn rnndr, in rntiponso 1.n qnosl.ions, I.:Ilkinf; aliunt a snqgeslion, t.nllcin); nhmrt. anIist.ieal prnhabilitirc, and 1:tm even morn disl.wdled ttutt thn fnll wcight: nnfl medihility of thn Fedenll (iovorntnentt has I con plnce,d ont.il'oly behind this conclusion, ,rhi,h pats rna in Iln, po9ilion of nnt. fully IH:iuf; :I.Lle to exercise my completn prnro"n.tivc, I thinlc thnttvu hnve Rmt to frcu~,rnize Llntt tvhn.t- ever the ctl'eet of 1 his findinlg with tlrn fnll weiRht of the rndrrnl (7nv- ernmenl, hnhitld it. is nuw n fxit. accornpl i nud w, mvst star't. from there. RocoRnizin;; 1.6is, I frankly Indiovo very firtnly that Congreev has I;ot. to nr1t in this cnse. Coincidentally witL this, I nm equally cnncernerl ahont whatt nppeans to Ixre an atl.itudn in fiovanmentt agencies nbont stal utory and,lolrRnded nuthorihy. It. scums to mr Ihut, in this (;overnmeul. nf tlre peoplc, we as repre- vrnlotivrs nf Ihc people, arc lilnitcd in tenns of IILO limitations placeil on I his rovrrnwont atl its Inrcpl inn. I nm rnnrrrnrd Ihnl. Ihr a,,.,rmci,s of Ihis (iovernwrnl nnd pnrliru- la.rly Ihc r:;~uln.lul.y nJn nut rnrlnrrn Lhcnlsrlroa so mnr.ll tvith 1.60 linlilution of ,etal.ldn,,v or ,h`Ic~:drd unLhnriY;y, hnl, r;nYher Ihcv sccu~ to vont'.enl.ratn Yheir inqnirirs nnd Ihrir inlrntiun npnn hniv hrond I hcy nmy nln I<c lh"c. sl ut ntnry nr dt`Irgnloil atntc of nu1.horily- With 1 his in mind, I rrunld lilm to Irruvnc a line oi rynestionin~, I not.it'n in yoinrrlrurl., I)r, 'I,`rr./, ol. pngr 11 yon mrntiouetl Ihis mornin;!- Ihnt it L,votcry hmunn ronctlun tn n hnnit fnnnrrly nnroplr,l nA 6nrudesn, nn,l nntr srlr`ntlllrnlly rlolerminc:l ne hnrmPnl. f tron't ar;,rlle Ih:,t, pninl, hnt yotn nixl vlnlrrurnt dnr.s conrrrn tn,. 'I'Irln vhnuKe I'rum hurmlrsu to Wvmful Iwv crrnled a mmmbrr nf prn67elnc. Rnnic IH`uplenn~ nnnIIIh~K lo nrcrpt Ildn iufornwl lon. Now, I tro:dd like to:cclr you, 1)r.'Pcrry, whatt is uron~..vit-h tilat7 Dr. .I'ratftr. I don't s,`e anylhing tvnwg rrilll it. It, is your privilege us n.n iudividlu,l jnst an it. is nlino 6o owcepl. infnrmlU.inn or not accept it. Afr. S.vrrrm~nar.u. linnlc oil lrnge 2, of your report, and Lhis scnnrs to ho carried t.hrnahnnta thn e.ntire Hlemn of yuur repa+, you nlnnt.inu, "<Thu nalllrn of Iho prohlnm is soch Ihalsalrs havn c.ntd.imlcd to in- nroasc," nol.rvilllslnndin.r yntn' rnport. :md flut.hnr down nn 1hn pa~ro ynu pnso I.wo qne.st.ions: "fM1'llnt fnn ~,e Junog IS'hat tvill onr.onragn smnlrcrs Yo sl np n nd nonsm nko rs nol, l n shl rl P n f t. wonltl srclu to nla t httt ynu n.rn conrr`rn iu~ yoin~,.l f horn nn/. rnerc)v ,rill, iufuriuiulS IL` luopl, of yuilr runrlnsiaus. Ilnt Ihnt. Itf is 116e prnviurt` nf Sour :,,t`net nnd prrhnps ol.hrr n,nnrics nf Iale hedmal Yiovornlnnnt tn Ro flnillrr Innl dn sowclhinq uhmll11ia ar t,`.rlus of nlfrrtin", Ilir lln.hilc or Iho niurrv nf nln'suairll'. Is Ihis your intenl@ PI. 'I'ratrr. I Lllink il~ is qnilo. e.lr:u9v un' rnq,ulu:ihilil.v a~lu.n ftrn sfmint.lliuq nti :t Lrull Ir hnr:tr,l In Irrrtail nl:nn tn"oph n,d 1n prli,al in r'arrtiu!'Ind 16nll::lr.n,l I.AItAIIJNl1 AND .tUttaPruuNa IIInG 171 Alr. rhluvll:I.n. 1)o 1'on uuuu hy "prnvail upun pcn rlrY lo go to Ihu exlr+nl uf, a st.ndy nf h,Illlvlol' p:1Jl1`I'n, :Ilnl p,Y.iRIhle- cuw~5rs of t`durndiou ur infurnuftiun in Ihn pulrlir, school syslmus, 11130 il, is Lhc provincn ol' Illu hndnral Uovrrnwrnl. In mtJce smo t6ul, prople undet- slnud nm1 uhny I.hesolimlinrs! d. I)r.'Ib.aar. I hnvn unt saill nnyt.hing aho,dobeyiul;. I thirdc 111111 cle:u'ly I~hmt sou,rl hinp~ is deniousl rnlrJ :r. n h,n11 h ll:r2urvl, it. shnnhY hoY prese.rded lo the nwmbrrs uf oar rountl1' as It 1Lralllt hnr.in,1, nnd in it .vnynstnhnpolhnl.tlwytvillnvoidlhishralt.hhaznrtl. , A'fr. Smrrt:nrun.n. I cnm mularstaud and agree with f.hnt. stnttnnrnl, hnf. I fawnut, roamcilO this tcit.Ir what ap'n~fus to mo la la 11w under- IyinR It;tin of IlronRht l.lntt runs Ihrou{;h your aul.ire stnlmucnt ILis mor'uiul;, inchldiug lho slldomenll thnl. you havo on puf;o R, concrrninl; I hn act.ivilics Lhnl. yuu a.ro lfPFf`111Iy f.O11,111CIJtlt!. It. SCP1119 lu fne, tlnd. thrvae n.ree directed nlonl; afnr ae,prr ilnplity n1 affort IJmn tnernly to inform nnd ndncaio people, hnt. In nctnally study LhnW., things thnl. hrinR about. snrol.ing. 11, is ny clear impression frfnu tvhat ,you have tesl.ified to, and par- 1 irnlmlv Ilio:nlswer Lhat yon u,ndu to Ilu,chnirmtut lhis omrntng when hc xshrd ynn why, in ticw of Ihc lindings, Ihat you don'Y. recounnond al'.aiosY vmokitl,!, period. 1gqlIhc iwprossiun frvun yorn nnsmcr Lhe.n, ,dhf`.n you s:rltl Ihat. vnn ,Ldn't I I,iuk Ihnl Ihee puhlir. tvoalil neceplt it brd Ihnl. vun ihuurh/. Ihi:; rnld,l br ilnur in Ihr. Ararirnn ,)nv, and NrhnlVun ~ar h,, Ih:,ll is il. N~nut' Inl,nlion nnd uhjrr.l.it~r. in limr, Ilu'ou-1lh rdnrnInnr,l prar`drnrs nr nlln`rteisr, tn do nfcay rcill, pahlirv smnlciug b)' Inlcinl,r nlcu.v frunl pcoplo Ihe. m'ho lo swulfa. Is Ihis nhal. rorn' n ln is$ I)r.'1'ran;v. I Ihildc ilt i, wt' rr:+lrnnsihilill' In inform fln` Irrnldr .r Iln Ir,ar.llll hnznrd asvori:Jrd :,n,l nkn in c.uunnu'tiou Wil6 thiv hrnllh hnrw-,l Io nlloulld In pru%aiI ulrun I hvm nol losmnl<r. \Ir. tivrl<ur,el.u. I I:crli ;nlnpr bnrk tn Illn rlnrsliou ul Ihe I~rub Irw. Il'h,u n4kwl u rplr:~linn Irnl:lv relutl hnd brcn ,Ion: in Y,mr IhIr.u'llnrul, 1'uu mrnliomr,l Ihnl souulllin;; hnd hren d1mr htu'n1uf rXluriwivt, nn,l I hclircr. Lhr muncrr wn., tn holp pr-l,h` urlllr Ihrir Irrohlrlu. 'I'his has br,n 1'nprnteil Inro nr Ilure Linles. nnd I am i,Jer- cStrd, 1)nnlnr in esaclIy rvhnt. n'op u,enn hy holpimFr, Ihcnl «il.ll Lhc prohlcm. Wjn,l, prnhlnnl arc %cr I.:tII[in!; nbont.Y llr. Trltnv. We nrc fmlcing ahuut.lhe probl,`an of emolcinR. Aftt R.rrrlan~lel.u. ln other wnlds, to hcln them nil.h t.hn prolrhnl of::mokint,intcrnsnfhrlpinl*IlLrulnnl nlce. Dr. 'I'crun~. 1 f Ihry rvu,drl llh, In rdnp sn,olciu.q, nnylhin Ih:lt ,vr rnn do In ueaivll tllrnl m sloppiuR cumlcin;,. Dlr. tivrrral~nu.u. 1Yhru t'nn tall: :rhnul. ,_ruups lu hrlp thrnl rvilh Ihis Irrnbhnl :urd rtlutulin',!;{rnlqrs iu this nre:l,ynn a.r,`,;omtn furl.6tr Ihou Ihal, nrn you nnl, in nr.lu:tlly cueo,n'nrinl; Ihem nnl.losmolcr.t l lr. "I'r.rnrr. I tvonhl crrtoiuly enrournt;n nuynno not I+r swnltr sir. M11r. ~rrn:.ru~n..rar. I do noI.lu,orc rcYuIh,r 1 hrard ynu rurraLI), bul I bclit`v,r in nnster.rln:l qnrstinn by f11r. Itar{r.rs yom mtdc. a,slnrrmrnl Ihal. }'mn' ,'it`.« <rith rrtipvr.lI lo snloking nns hnw~d in pnrl. rn, Ihi` Afl- risnrl' 1'omluil It,~'s rrlrnrl.. Is 1 hnt, whnl. yon 'u lil E Ilr.'Paltlcr. Alr. Nrlrran:n:l.n. 1Voold )nu iuin,l trllingmn wlndf els.r il i~_ harr,l an't

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"rbti I91{.\110.1"rR I.At16:IJN11 ANI) APCI~ai'I`IRINI;-lttefi 1'1/;,111P,'I'lll I_\11111.1N17 :1N111 ,111\~I+ICI'151iG1; lUtie '.1,:111 nfl. lilntrvrzn.\,. ln olhrr lcnIs, Ih, tit;tl.inlicimts n4lonll.q selrcled i tlo slides tchirh )'nn osod'E 1)r. Aulrau:.\tul. Nu. lu urdrr In make Lhis a scicnt.ific sludy, n desi;;tt trls srl. np. 1 r:l ised I lm Iptrsl inus-- :IV n nntl.l cr n f facl'.,1)r. Slont :tntl I r:lised Illu ynrWlonc of wInIL lve wnnled to stndy. TLe st.nlishi- ciauH cLosr. I he wnllicieot nam6ra ol' anr+nc tin I h:tt Lhc qnaal ious could be aus\lcred tsilh sullicicul, tun/o.rial. I lcoold lilae. von lo Itno\v Ihnt. nn nnn It;l, cril.ici'r,ed, a.uluu(g jnufrtisiomlls, cil.6cr lhn design of 1.11e stntly or Iltu mcl.Lod. Mr. KonN<r..n-. \Vell, .lr jnvlM o:uJ, Irn I;et. il 1111 on 010 record. I)r. Arrnnn.lan. Yes. Atr. ICon>ur:a,\r. 'Cho stntistieitnls selncted Grst tllo nutoPsies to Uo mnde. 1lrlten I hey wede nc,tnall,y m;tde, they selected Ilte slttlos which ynu hnd tntder iovoal.il;;ttion. 1)r. Atu1.1ntAOU. No, sirq Llml.'s lvrunq~. '1'he tudopsios were done in thc ronl nle fashion. Slnoking histories .voro Iheu obhtinal. 7'ben lrhen ell of Ihe qoest.iens vvere to lw nn- stcered,t.hematerinllc:tsl.hensrhrlyd Lhosovcit.hlltepropersnvoking Lmtnrics, all uf t~hrnt lrrro nsr.d l\6ecre snlolting histories a'ere nvnil- uhlo-l.ltere lvns no soleclsiou. I11t. Krot>ut:aer. Yon looked e.tf thrln nll. 1)r. Aurmtlr.n. I louked ul. r.vet,y singlo ono of i.ltem, nnfl sonle,l intes ttvo nnd I luee lilnes. 11Lt.KmeNeaAti-. YondiclnoAoliminnLr.nuynfthem. I)r. Alu=atttnuu. No, sir. Once you sflut a stady, nollting r,tnt lie clitnina.lod. TLr. KlneNwonr. Nu.v, you kave 1LItd n grceb dutl of exporirncct in tlto;tren of I.ubmrcnlosis also,Leveyon unl.@ 1)r. AurJiltAClt. Ycs, sir. Afr. ItonNlennr. Js l.itcre nny roLll.iueship between smoking and LubnrculosisY Dr.Aut:mtAatt, No,sir. B'Ir. KlntxrnA.-. 1'enplo w6o Lnve hlhercldosis are eucuturnl?ed nul, lo smolco, l.llnn6, a.le 1,6r.y nnt e I11. Aorto\Arnl. Yes,sir, forotLorrr,;tsons. 111r. Knlwtal,M lYcll, tlmt is ;t eoudiLion of tlle lang, Llloagh, is it nnt~ -In6crcnlnsis? ])r. Aura:nncn. Wnll, taLoretdosis is e,n nten. of disense within tlle hmg Iikrne per so, Itud ouly inflrtnlnrutl,y involves Ilto brouclti. On tllo ot6cr kand, lung cttnccr is tt dlutase proc.ess of t.lw brottcLi first. 11Lr.KoltxEonr. TLal.isall,tltnnlcyonveryrouch. '1'lto CnnutalAx. Mr. Nolsen. Mr. Ntasr:N. No quent.ians. T je5t wish lo tLattlc the lvilness for avr,r,yiufortmd.iveprrsrn(al.ion. 'PLludcyoo. 'I'6o CunnthrArr. 117r. Vnn 1)er,rlin. ltfr. VAN Dr.nttttrr. No questions. Tho Cnntntcnx. I)r. Cart.er. Mr. CArzrrn. tiVlly does lung cancer occur more frequently in nrLmt arce s rnt 1 wr 1.1 mn rn rnl arens Y Dr. Atnarsnnon. 1)r. Cnrtrr, lve made n stnrly of this in nn :dtempt, to a.nswer ILeste quc5tions-Ihis lras a nmlf.i'tlc factor study, in whiclt thr.ro worn nLold, 13 questions to be Itnvn~errtl. Oue of tlto Iltingc vvilh whiclt wo vsoro I;rcully iuterrslyd tvov, dots nrbnnir.:diou plny II role.? In orde.r In ans\\r.r tL:d., .coelc.u who lived in rmn.l areas tltl yen.rs ntrnrt vrere c,olul/n.red. No. 1, vvo fonnd LhrvlM in no casr, of n rerol :tren--i f tLoy (lid not. suloko, tkuy clid not. develop Iwtq canrer. litd. .eo foaml Lkod cutupxrieg tubau antl rnrnl nrens, n'e t`onnd no difPcrs rncrs in 1114, l.rarhroLroncltin.l trco. 111r. CAlrrr:a. I Ilelicve 111111, . Ille tindinge of our hllte ribLon com- mil.lrr. mlmit. Ill;tt. i6eru \rns ;In incrensvl aulomtt ef IunR cancer ill urh:ln nrrns, ttnd :Ilmot'lal.ll 1r6ysicians aqt'co ILat Ihnl, is trlm. TLuy a La ~;I:prr. I l I:d. Iltero is n roason for i1., do Lltey nnl ? 1)r. Anemt.\cu. lYltnt. tlte.y believo is ILeir opinion, Dr. Carter. AIl 1, enn sny to you is t.ltnt, in my ex]terionee, finding nn indivillwtl \vil.ll lnng cnnccr, squautous or na.t coll, whether ho lives in an urbtut or rma 1 arat, is n rnro occurrrnr.n i ndeed. 1111t (',\n-ru:n. Ibrt,nl,rdless, lru otost nllmit LLeto is more lttng enncer iu tn'hna nrens. I 161n1c 1~hal.'s a prell_y, well accopled fact.. ] lr. A tlr'nn \cnl. 11 ns soudciug bcon 1 oken into oe,ctntnt in tLose a reny R iA1r. ('"vrrt:e. 1 Iltinlc ILe funl. IL:tt nrAomtls for Ilull.-Ilto acc,rpled fncl~--is air pollnl ion. L do no1 think vco sllotdd deqy thnt Itir polllr I imt i s onr n f the cn uses o f IL is. I)r. ArnarnltIt. ()fteof IhnenustsforwLs.t,sir8 Tir. Cnnrlar.. For Innll' c:mcrr. As we Icoo\v, in ozperittttnla mti- nm.ls Illc onlv Lype uf hnl~, tatucA+r vvhicL 1LOS hren prtxlore(l ltas htvat ln-oduerd Ily iultalation ol ozonizrtl R:tsolino :utd ot.hrr ni:tlrrinls, Intt, nnl. hy cinnroUe suwko. Dr. Aut:ItnAOU. 11'n are, iu (Le tuidsl, of :m exl,erimcnl, untc, nnd cvo liavn Iroru IILIr lo r+moba :luiwnls. nnd lcn Inlcc. In nustcrr fur Ihnl.. I lnonld like lo rrfer ytnl, ,ir, lo t6r vcnrk of I)r. Potkey lclln Irtinlrl f lu' ott I}hr 1 rachrnllronrhinl I rro :nn1 prodneed conc.+r of Illc IlroneLus. Aft. Can'I'rnc, I 11:Irt'. nrtrr S/re Ihal, tcotic. I kno\c il, \cna tlone un tlle.skino(ru.riou57miwuLv. Ofr.ow'scYuur;mpuiel.;lhnost n.uyiLiu;( untLn5l:iuofanitualsl.llal \rillprodncecancer. Ifotvncrr, us f:u. a1.1.60 lilrrnlm~c \c6ic6 1:uu c.nnt'tr'nnt lcith, il is 111n onlv I1'pe of Itm!, r:lnrrr vvLiclt lllts hren prntlu,.,Il-htlc bocn by in ha la l i nn u f orun i zcl l':u:Id i un a nd soon, DIr..Alntlu:ncn. 1 6a\e::rrn hisslilles, IIc.lLns In-nJwc,l it. Illr. ('.\Irro:n. Yt~:, sir. 'I'hnuk you, Sir. 'Phe CI IXn;unx. 111r. 91d,lerlil Id. Dlr. S:vrrrnelFl.o. I lta.vo nnly onr, tplestinn, cir. Yotl saitl you ltttd soeu the sl 1,-~ \nceso tltey Intt-o prodnclIl 1':nncr Dy Imtiuling 1,110 Ine on tlte skiu. 1Vcro yuo aLle to nscrrl.ain, or du you knom lvlLnt. rrlalionv6i11 this :unnnnl( or Inr cvonld be:n. ill lln uanlhvr I,f c.irm.rellcs onr. lrueLl hovo lo slenlux I,. rrllrndml' :ul rvpliv aloulmunonntof Iar? Ihr.AnlIateAan. No,sir,lllnnol.. Rll'. timrrlacM;l,u. You dolr'L hace. u.uy i~lra.? 1 h. Auelmnon. Nu, sit-, I Imtvo nono nt Illl. 791is iti ILpe hinr6relicul firld, and ilf is'fnr I,t:yund mr. rlr.5n'rrl^Inu<I,n. fl colddbe:tmilliott,could it not.? I1r. Anr.tmncu. I dnn'i, lt nmc. 1'ou vvoald Ilxce to say it. r,nul/l Lv. 71'Ir. Sn'rrnttrlrl.u. Nulknotvink, 1)r. Auem:Acn. 'I'o say auyl6ing morc 16:1n I tlnn'l. Itoocv lvoald hee goint, (Itt-6oTon11 n'6u1. I shonkl.

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`.:(12 ('I(IAItF;I"I'P; I.Alll:LINfi .ANII .APl4;lt'I'1.91NU--196.5 STATEMENT OF WILLARD DALRYMPLE, M.D., DIRECTOR OF IINI- VER.SITY IIEALTR SERVICES, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY 1)r. I)vI.In'nuLt. I Ilu, .~ir, nwI Illerxpurieutr has 6eeu adncnlioual, I nlnys;lysn, 'l'6e (InmmKIArr. 1Votdd )'ou ideulif.y yourself. I nnl .u/rl_y, I)r. I lnlr,ylnldo, Lnt. \m Iru\e Leen so laleo grt.l inr to yoa. I)r. ~I )Al.ln'nl r1dn. I rptile underaund. '1'he (1nnulnlaN. llu( the 1'tt6lin Ilenllll Sercice, nud 1.6e Fede,rnl 'I'rade ('owulis5ion tepresenled hnl'13 bren deeply iuvnh'ed in Illis prnblem. 1)r. 1)nl,n\'ntrl1:. I 11n.e Irurnell fS-uln t.heir Irnl.imnuy. Bfr. ("Imir- man, goltllemen, I nln'rVillnrd Dnlrymple, AI.U., clireel+>r of Iko 1Tni- verslty 11en.1(L Setvines, Prineelon llnirrrsify in ILn Ilounrabin N'rnnk '1'6aupsolis disl.ricf. I aau nlau c6;lirm/u1 of the Sncl.iou un (`IiniclJ Medicme of thn Anrerirnn ('ollef*e Ilenllll Assoeinlion, nnd 11011101 Assa'iul.inn is I.he profe.s.sion.til orl(nniznl iurl of pllysieinus, unrsas, and ol.hers respunsiLln for t,lle lle.nll.h of Ihtl Nul.ion's,:ollcge yonth, no\r'I million slronf,r. Ou Ihu 2814 of April 1962, our ;Issori:r.liou ndrrplrrl ;t resollttiou tvllirlt, iu 6rief, says I6:d, t.6e.y rono.6ldl!cl lhntl tke.nv ccas nn il-tv>,'i:d.iou rrln.l.iouship :uul o. cr.lnutl relid.iuuship beelavtrlt cikurette smokinR xnd suum diticnw::, and nrl;ed all tLo ntemba:v uf tlle .ks.ulciation to hlku \ntys mnsidonal mu5t. suit:tLle lo diwolurnRe cil;nroqo sutokinR by ool- IeRn stnrlonte turd fili.nro Illmuni. '1'lln as,scu,int.ioit luts ltoll ltad nn op- porI.uuil,y to luko nn n0iriu.l Ixrtiliun on Ihese billF, bllt I lmv'e tulke+l ivilh mn I/resillent, Ih. Lenun A. 1"eager, nLuull it, nnd \re bulll feel Ihnt Ihe spirit of 16e retiolnliun w'hirlr t+':Is ndu~drrl In:lom. lendr+ ilfielf In takiul; :t posit.iuu nu thr billx novv~ be.fore I Ilo (onf;ress. 'I'6o('unutnl,.N. ls I/r. Yr,lnm'heru w~i4Jl you? Ih. U.v.lernuuc. ti6r. \res uol. altlu lo LII 6erq I altn solry to sny, sir. Lt kcuerul tro sllllpor6 ralher strongl.y 1.6ns1: proeisiolls no\v before 11te Coufm'ti5 \eLiuh relplire oll'eet.ivo Inbelint; nf eiRnmldo pac'.IcaRes ns a pcts.vlLla Latznrcl to healllll, arld \cllirh unlhorize Fede1nl rnoulxtinn of eiRu.lrblo aclcerti,einl;. AVe nppowv Llloso prorisiuns w6ialtiuhibib h6a Fode.ral (iove.rnnuvlt, iu nue wny ur nnul6e.l fronl rel±ulnt.inl; nlhettis- ill"'ns in I Llu. 1t107, ucl ilnl /i. Olu re.nsnua iu brief follow. 1vvill nut. go nver the seienlifle, mnle- riu.I \\6iclt \r:la Irust,ldell ur n61y by 1)r.'I'erl.y nnJ 11is u5un,inlc:e. In );ener:ll 1 woult~ s.ly, )uSl( to rephrnSi nnu Itirnr.eld, that, il. Lu, bre.n I/rnveJ IwyouQ It renurna6le IlnnLt IlurtI cit,nuvUa vuoking dlxH cause aaneer luld is inlporlmd in aulsin); ol.lter dise:lses eveu IILouRh it. has nol. Ilren Irrnved irhich uf Ihn canulrouenls (if oiCard.te smoke aro Lhe otftrlit~n tl:mul5. 1\coul:r liho to me.ul,iou ILa farl. I.Ital. Sr.reral ezperiutenlas Illu'e. Ik.Inonv(.rnlcd ILe prrwnrl+of I'oloniutn 210, a rnrlinautivo culbpunnnl. Lt o.igarrl h. sutul:e. Lt\vs knu\en is ILe fnr.6 IL:It v.i;,rlur.tlo smolciu{( ndcerr.c.ly nlrert>a Illl' 6onli6 of ymul}; lmoplr. A oolloat;un ol wine in 1'rincu.lon has sindied slnclhnls iu n prnlntrn.Iury sr.htwl, uuJ 1 6n.ra hllwn u sm-ley uf 1'rince.- lun tlntlcly!rn/luales, bulh of 11'bil-h 'urrr,la I6urcr/1 :qrprndnbly utula resllinthtrl' J iseaso ill sulokelv 16nn ill utmtinu:luvs, niuo Linles ns ronch 1LHatH' rl`,pirulnYA' IIiWIIrO `..nt'll TI hr::flPhiliN :Inil Ilnelftllnllill in Ih:, ('IaAllrirrrl 1,ABraJM1r A,III Alu\P:Ifr15tN(; -111GS 211.3 'I'61 I'IVl~ibilily of lahrlil:t; of riC:u'/'Iir Itn:Itu}ms lutlisronrukr=ulnlc- ing :-ann/d. he. tlrnluusIrnleJ vilh ::n:ll Ilnilill~, of runr;r. 1Ce r~,rn rull upnu n'h:dr your la\cyel's, I helirrl', rnllrl~ ipsn loqailur. If rit~llrlIlv. nllverlising nnd p:u'IcnRiug dnciR'n do IP:I. tllil':1:'t SIII/Ikers, 16en tc111' dnri}!:u'ellorornlranir:v inJillgee in 16eu1? Alinn iulpurl;wl, hn\crrrr, ix 16e fnoil tlnd. IlLe pnrnrnln;p' of tlnu- :nnuLPJ's 1I1IP1'lltrr PI'llrl'1l011 llns t51Y1/I111lIIy 1'Isell llt1'r IllA {'elI1B. l ll IIIII rlusw enterinC in 11)1R, only .'IH lnrrert6 \ctro uunsnlolcrrs, 6u1Ihis Crnllunlly rrne lu RII Ireneol of tllr rldrriug r.ln~q in 1tNt; beinpg rorn- smnl:r.l's. 1'hin 1!raJrtnl risr Icv Ltliero. L:Is Imt'n dan to I kn /uuvlnllll rzlluzln'oW ln Ihe fnrl, Ilrr ttl'e,I uf tig:u'ollo. ~moking ou henllh Ih\Illrsr el wlvutx. '1'Ire ronslnnl1 rrwinrler uf prusnrlice ur nrinnl slnnkvls nf Iheu+ ferls Ly uplrropriule lnbalinR uul I liy vlalelne.nls inrlade.l \cil6 ud- crrl.isiul! \clll sunilarly Ilelp lo I'rdat'e r:molcimr nmf t6orefore Ille inrideure uf llisease nnwn;; rnu' )'umrr lmuple. nrn nnr Irflstnls for nl'gin~ lef!isla.livc nrl inn. ('I'harnwplelc4lnlenlrnl of I)1'. I/nlrylnple. follnrcn:) I nn, R'ilbrrd Ir::lrlmplr, kI.P.. :Ilrrrlur nf Illc IhJcrr<ily 11:nllk ti,rriro<. Irinmlun Ilulvcr'i1y In Ikr I/nnnrnLlr Fran,k Ikmupson's :lielrlrl. I un: nWn rhnlrm:m uf IlU urWiult ull rllnl,ad mrtlirln, nf 11M An,rrl:-;:u 1'ullegl ll:nllll Arsntinllon, nud niMmnr In min'v:veul. Ino Asxnrinlion. The Arurl'Ir:1n l'ullrln Ilenltlr Aexorinlluu Ia Ihu PruG'yuluunl urRnnirdJlnn of ph9uirinnx, mrrx/aa nnd uthers n::yanvllJe fur Ikr. hrnlth uf the Nnliona enlle/;e 3'nnlh, non -1 ndlllnn jitf11/',. tlrt AVril 28. 1!111'-', Ihe Amrrlenn 1'ulltge Ilrnllh AxsrxInllnn ndupU/11h:. fni- IoviuR nnulntiun: "1Yhrronv nDrrlxmdernMe nf ihe nrlenlillrc rrideure (09111 vrnut rnnnter- ,.rl/lw:rr) Indlr:dru lur nxnurinliun wlnliunchip utrQ uv/;grslx n rnv.:rl rrln. I bmvbIp brl w,ru riqn rrl lr x:u:dcbtg nn:1 ..ame diwnw., Nrd "\t'6rnns 1hr 1IknretG smokhrF hnLl4t nrlrn lx arqltlred uuv by ,rnung 4rnplc rlthrl' nal. long kefnre tLry enlnmrurn, ur wiLlh lhry are nllrudlul; rllt&v. nuJ "Whrrvav oallrFt's nutl uularrxllNre nne lu a qmrlirulnrly ndvauLnRlrous poxl- lion In uud,vlnkr nn IdRcth'e rInlruliounl rITurt to ptup nml to prrrtv6 rignrolle aumk6:g bc culltgcAtulkulx:'1'herrrure Ire II: "IClmnlrrd, 'Plnt 7hc AmerHnu nnllri;e Iloillih Annlx.inliun, ncagtlizinl; Ihe nLnrr-mrllliuu/II rrllllionshlV bCl:wrrn rlMarelle xnurklug 111141 nulne dl.xlIl.vr.v, urgla Ila rnlirr lnPmhla~uhi(~-6nlh nrslitullonnl nud Indlritlnnl--In nllrwpt. in 11Indvvrr .cn3'x cousWcreJ moat unilnl:le, tn /licenuruge ritinnIlt nundthll: M13 voll:'titslwlrnlnaud fulurrnlruuui ' fhu n.cvxInllan kn, unl hnd l6/ appnrlunll3' to Inkt nu ulfrinl Puviliun r,u Ikr sn-rollyd Inbt1111F 1>Ills unn hefnrc Ihl (unFress. NIrrrlhr4vu, Ihr prrei- thul. nf :tur 1>xn:hrtiun trnA I xlrougly fhc:rr 11m.e prnrl+lnnx trlll.il n:Inirr rIl'rrlice labrlhu; of cl/;nnIte Plr:~lurgr. ns n Insaiblr Ilnr.nrd In hr:rltlr mrd uhlrh mlthnrlse Fedrrnl rokn6rtlun uf riR:lmtle ndrrrtininA: v'n ulryx,.e Ikal Pra- rislnnv wfii/h iuhinit 111e P'etlrrnl (:uvernmeut, tn parlknlnr Iko Frllernl'I'nlJe Coltnuiseluu, irnm reFnlulhrg nllrarl1slug, ns In 11.12. 41111417. stvIIn11 /1. In Lhlx :,4nrd \ro Urlirve Ihat lre nre fnllal\'Ing ihe xpirtt of tfle rrsnintlun rrlrcndy :u1n171e1 LY /rnr nsWnlutlnn. 1)Ilr rennnue lulluw: '19rt: 1en111nun9 nf rwAlwll Inrlwllgn/ur.v nrrr tlre yeur.if nnx menrlnImin/!ly InrPllcnlyd rigluorl.ll sunkr nA mr Imporlnnll fnrlur In ILC drrel- nf srvernl iurnPnrilnliuk nlwl fnlut rllse:rxrw. 'Pl:e rolnmun lylw uf Inn/l ulmurJl (':rnrrG tnr'Unlrff :rr1,9'9 dlMOnw Ilnd DnllOonnl'y MlqrllyNL`Inn FPPnr IkP rn,:Nl Il:rpur- Inuluflkt.w. 'I'hrrel.+lmnredIuxmuumri7elhlneridlnren9nllrhrrr. l.es:+ 'e/Il lamlvu Is ILr. Arrl. ihn[ ri4nrrlle srnnklnF ml\'tr.,rI,r nRtclx Ih, Irrullh ecru nf 7nuug lxoplc. D19 collenFar, Itr. Wlllinm Ihp'm:r uf 1'rlurnlun. ohsln'rvl 1!kt vlndrnl, frl n prelmrntnry athnol: Iwlf of Ihrtn rcere amnkrrs. '1'kr smnkers Ilad Illuv /Fnmx nH nmrh lnlYer rrsDirtdnry diwvlxr, eucL as bron,Wlin nnd pnrn- nwnlu, Ih:ur Ihe uuunn:..kcre. '1'hoy hnd'l!a Ilmtx ns nmrk ul'prr rr;uplrol..r;v di.rnu snrh :ru Iko cunmron roi,l nn:ll.ke vore Ilrrnnt Ihnn Iho nnu::wokerH. 11r. I.u,cnnrr 1'rrrlll Ilutl I 'urn3r:1 ^iR 1'firvMun mulrruradunl:r, 11/ prrrrul

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212 CltiAnlSt"1'IB LAIIP:IdNn AND AnYRIiTI51NG-1005 AG. Ftx)'re. 1Vould Prohably be losl. lu it, 1':'s, sir, I tvould Lhinlc so, sir. Afr. VAN 1)Kn=eraN. '1'Itankyoo,Alr.Chairntnn. Tlie ('iiAinntAe+. Alr. (lurlin? hit'. Cu1rrIN. '1'hnnk you, Alt'. Chsirntnn. Alr. P'oole, I nw somctvlrnt curious about 16is eotnlcil of tvhich you tile chuu'Iwur. 1Vho set it nt19 Alr. Fiwrrt:. 1Vc11, it tc:lssel uP Lcforo I lici:une c6nirman, so T n-oulrl have to qunto Irly tmdcrstandi»g of tile history. It uns set uP ut t.l.o s»firicstion ori.inally of tile Awerican Cancer Society, the American Ile;u't. Assorintion, Ilte Nnl.ionnl 'P.iS. Associalion the Americnn 1'ublic. Ilcnlllt Ass)cinlion,nnd Iho U.S. PuLlic Ilealth Sm'tice. '1'hcy got going, a»d 16cD tJtoy gol Ihesc other orgutizntions listed here to Joln t hem ns eharlm members nud apousors. Alr. Culrrlx. Is it coun/x:tetl tvitl6 Ille Pederal Govenunent in sny Wny--is It. u (iovernmenl nheocy 4 Air. Ivou'rr;. (]nly that i of unt ]G Inmuhers nro Gnvernment agelt- cies. It. is rather-1 lture not fonud aqyllting else quite, like it, I:e- c:mse we lurve 1(S direclors, 1% rrpn:scntt private agencies, nnd 3 rcpresent Federnl Govcl'»meul, :tgenr,ies. A[c CuirriN. 1Sut did tile (Jover»ute.»Is in any way, or any of its ogenciesl sel. uP Iltis Cmmoil? Alr" bou're. 1'Ley Pw1icipated i» soll.iul; il, np--orm of nn early grunpul'G,andlhnoas3nui.ofl(i.hlr. CtnrrlN. lSnl it. is:t purcly Privafo rmm~'.il, su fnr es ynn Ia,u.v, esacPt 16a1, I6ere ure thrce HnvernmcDlul nl;eecie.s trLo nre. P:ui.ici- P:ulls? Alr.Pnn'n:. Ylw l"ot-exampln,Trtidn'1s6ov myslnlementlnSnr gcon Grm:r:d 'I'crry belol» givwo il, hrcnus. Iic juslt dilln't, feel t.hat wns oecess:uy. Mr. ('aurrl N. Iln you 6ave. n 6udge1.? Nr. hno're. AVell ico don'I, use very »mclt mnnr_y. Rroldd yuu lilm to k»otv Ilio fihtnes~ Mr. (:ulrrrN. 1 Prestnne. yolr :ur1 on a snlary? Afr. Foorts. Oh, no, sir. 1 dl'ntv luo slLuy, and I Pny nty oe-n eX )CIIsPs. ~il. CurcrlN. 1Vhet'c do you gct nqy mnuvy Ll)nt you nmy usL frotn what so111YY'i Atr. Fuo~rr:. You mean Iliat llw conncil may usei Alr. Cun-rw. 1'rs. Uo yon get 11»tt. $'orn (ho Fellotnl Governntent.P Air. l''oori:. No, tile Qovcrmnenf. has uut. hivcn us ally casl6. Tho Governmeut gives us Iho time of ltvo or Ihrce ;{irls tvho typc letters. lh'. (iuthrie, tvlln is secrel:ny, Puls a fnir:unonnt of tiinee on it. ISut lllat is :t very small Pat't of his tilnc. And 16o ADmricar Uancer So- ciety, for ex:tmple, paid for our Still ioncty. I 6avo said sowcii'Iiut in jest Illat onr r.ounc.il is long mt inOnenco but slmrt wt caslt. We have lotnlly collected lo dnte $3,850, af wltic.lt no still lmve. nn hand $2,MItl, sir. Itsltolcs icltad, you c.nn rln wilhout monr.y. A4r.CurrrlN. Yonsa,yl6ntyonrco»ncilhnslccosncrclnriesl hir. Furtrr:. 'Ptcotu Illrre--it de.peudsou Ihe. cvorlcload. ]Ut.Cuirrlx. Oulaftrhulnllieeilo1.61yieorl:? Cn1A11R'1'1T.' LAIn11dN/1 M4D .1Dyb11i'rts16G-1®65 `1f13 Alr. loo:rrw. 'I'hey o'ork nul of Ihe 1Sclhtwdn o/lice nf tile l.i6r:uy of Atcdiciue-R60111Viscon.sin AvonueA hlr.('unnN. 'Plomt isa(loveruDlrotagrncy? Alr. Toorr:. Yes, sir. A»d fhc IJ.S. I'ublie Ifenlllt Service II{;recd, when this wus srl. up, f6ai. Ilu,y tvonld suplrly tt cerlttin umount of .'lorical nnd srcre.t::rinl irnrlc. hl r. CtnrrlN. IVLn pays I hc snlnries of thnse.ILree secrcl nries? Aft'. 1~'oo'rlt. 1 Imlieve l6c I'ublic Ile»ll k Sorvice does, eir. All'. (iUll'1'IN. 'llley, then, are pnid itmn Governmenlt fmtds. Thank ,you. . Tho Cu,tnenr.%N. Mr. 1'iclclel Alr. I'Irncl.r:. 'I'6,ulk you, Mr. C6airmnD. hfr. Footo, 1I agree tre uul!ht lo Imve a reasonably strong LdN:ling ~n.)vision un n pnckn~~,e of clgaretles. Now, with trspect lo ndverlis- mR, I Iltinlc nrn' Problem is 6otv cmt you practically Preveut ar have a warning on cigarette n:ltrrtising? Non, geueral ly spcuking, cigarcl l es cnnw in a package. F.verybody a'jm srnnkes (nlms liie cig:n'ellc out- of Ilre Paelcaf,m. So e.voryltntly in Alueric:t is o'arned l.ltut vIR:nnl.lo srnoking is or Inig6t IxI ltaznt'dons lo l'nm' healt h. Tn yon oPinion, do ynu Ihiulc Il»tl~ tliy cigarMle smoLnr in these United SI nlm is lint aware of I he Sarg0on (;euertl's ftadingrs, nnd 16nt Ihry miR6ft br riskilt,q tLeir hunlllt Ly smolcinn? hir. Fno'n:. I think LLere are a great nwey stnokers, Alr. 1'iclcle, i.'Lo feel fltnt, since tile Government seems fo be a. litllr :nubivalettl.:tLnnt, this mullrr, Ih;d. they don't tcorry too much nboutt it. I thinlc nntil tile (invel'nntent In Ices a lil'1» cla»:1, I hey .cmPt Irnotv for surn. Af r. 1'n.tcl.tt. 1Yr11, now, I ILiulc you :i re bvl;;;iu!~ 16c* ynesl inn, tltcrn. '1'lm fncl. I6af[ the Goverdment rolnrs ntlld aud sln m,!Iy snys I his IItigLt. lcill yo» is noi {±ninf_r to nfYcrl. Ilieir=und;in~? vifhrr nwrve trdh IlteSurgeon (icnernl'sopinion or nuf" I Ihink Ihn Pnblin I.enerully snrnlv nnislknom Iholn iv a lin.sihle rlaue,~r hrre. Noiv, nnless yo» want. to jusl. Irt' to s.r.ue people, or uulec, ynu are just tryinl; tn Put, sonlebody nult oj husiness, or In I lu'otc ap a bngulx>n conslautly, I think you n'ould nclmit. t.h.:t tLe real danger is Iwa c:ut you prncllcall,y reRnlale if.? Tlotv rno yon on » II0-seioud or n 7fS- sesoud spot, or a 2 by 10 or 4 by 12 nd, nr insll a lil I lc oue-colunnl nd 7 Ynu nronn ndvertisinsg m:ut. I nnt a ii .uvrndverlisine,+m:ul. 'I'he nbilily to Pnlin n pracficel tvnrnin_~, n» all Plmses of :tdcnrliv.nienl, bv thr. F'I'(1, la t(oln, (o lie lnll'll Ir) 1'ehllllrl/:. \Vh,y conldn't, you give Ilm, indusll,y Ilto respmtsibilily of, Ikron;!h n sellefl of nllel'aI lnllnl nlls, nr Lotrccrr 1 hcy fert brsl to Itantlle it, work- ing icith Ilro P'rdor:tl'1'r:ulc('omutissiou::nd Ilro (iovernmonl, pul.linR on a c:unpnign tllnt would fairly nnrl hnnesla,y Pointt oril. tile possilde danget's of smoking? Rnl. let Ihe indnsll_y nnd Iite Govet'mnrnl I l.y to work it ont, inslead of I he, h"I'C Lrying to set up :t broad rnle Iha1l rc- qnires negative advertisin0 '1'Imtt is nn nltnost. impossihlee joh. It vcnnld bo Ilnn I ln cn Ao'rr, VVrrrd:l 1'rnl :ulmit. Illn1.8 Mr. F/wrre. I don't Illink it itmllil Lr, sir. I Ihiulc it ii'oidil lir rerv easy I n rD force. I f von had 1 he simple hcnll h ic:n'oiuvc 1~ v :n'r I:t Ik iueg, :Ibnul., I Iltinf; il rmdd lle cuuclcd Fht' ( 1oul"rrsr<. -I I ltinlc it. ii'uldJ hn n rinrli ILu~~'Ifiilli.~ir.

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322 CIGARE'ITE LADELING AND ADCERTISING-I965 Doctor, the nearest I can figure out, giving the benefit of the doubt to the report of the Surgeon General-which is 18 months old-has there been much research in the field since then, publicarions available? Dr. ]IoRAx. I think there has been a great deal of research in the area. I don't think there have been any significant contributions to the understanding of the problem, or any further additional experi- mental or clinical work which would help one way or the other. Mr. FAnssu:v. You feel that the facts were in at that time, and thev have not changed, is that right-the best knowledge in the field? I)r. \IoRAV. I feel that the information that was available to them then is the same information that is available now to anyone who tries to evaluate the situation. Nfr. FAtexl.ser. I brought a clipping in the other day-it is in the record-psychologists saymg they thought~ne group of 72 percent that had had cancer had had a history of depression tN hen they were young. and they felt there was a correlation. Had you ever heard of that theory? Dr. MoR.aN. Well, I have heard of such, yes. I cannot say I am very enthusiastic about them. But I cannot dely them, either. YIr. B..xsBLEY. Do you feel you are competent to have an opinion in that field 1 Dr. \foB..x. N o sir, I do not. )Ir. FAR.csLEV. I found another one. Another one is that some of them think it may be virus that may be the cause. Is this a new theory? Has this Leen going on a long time? How do you hold with that one? Dr. 16Solux. The virus theory of causation of cancer is not a new theory. It is an old theory. It was dropped for some years or par- tially dropped. But there has been a revival of it, and at the present time there is considerable evidence that at least some cancers are caused by viruses. Experimentally cancers can be produced by viruses. There has been some recent research work in hmnan cancers now that indi- cate that viruses are probably responsible for certain human cancers. So I personally feel that the virus study is a wide-open field. I think this is shown by the development of interest in this field by some very outstanding scientists. For instance, the men who developed the polio vaccines-Dr. Salk and Dr. Sabin-they are both working now on the relationship, or a possible relationship, between viruses and cancer, and both feel strongly enough that this may be the cause that they are doing experimental work in this field. Mr. FARxsr.Ly. You say this theory is old and it was dropped and then has been taken up again. When would you say it was taken up again? Dr. \foeax. Well, I probably shouldn't have said that it was dropped. All I can say is that probably for a period of about 15 years or so, there was no additional evidence to help support it, and in the last 4 or 5 years, a number of things have developed which have revived interest in it, and now many people are working on the re- lationship of viruses to cancer. Mr. FAa.vsLSY. More now than any time in the last 20 or 30 years 1 Dr. Moaex. Yes, sir. Mr. FAnrtsLEr. All I can find is clippings. I don't have the learned journals you have. CIGARETTE LABELING AND ADCERTISL\G-1965 323 I found another one. Somebody thought male hormones were mixed up in this thing. How do you feel about that? Dr. MoRAx. Well, this is one of the theories that has been ad- vanced, and I think there is no question that the hormones affect cer- tain types of cancers. Sometimes favorably, sometimes unfavorably. As far as the relationship to cancer of the lung, I don't know whether there is any evidence to indicate a hormone relationship. It has been discussed. But I don't know what the answer is. 4tr. FARxsLEx. Can one man keep tip with the literature in this field? Dr. MoRAx. No, sir; I am sure of that. At least I cannot, Mr. Fanxst.EY. That is what has been going through mp mind, with the smattering of social science I have got.. We are told-I do not know-98 percent of the members of the AM.1 agree with the Surgeon's report. I do not know if they agree or disagree. Dr. MoRAx. I would say first of all I doubt very much that98 per- cent of the members of the AMA agree with the Surgeon General's report. I doubt this very strongly. I do not know what percentage agree. But I think many of the men, for instance, who are not keeping ap with the specific literature in cancer of the7ung have to accept something like the Surgeon General's report. The fact that a certain number of men who are in practice of surgery or general practice, or internal medicine, may accept this does not necessarily prove that they know anything about it, any more than a person who reads it in the newspaper. Mr. FARxsI.Ex. You have an interest in this field, obviously. You have testified well, and you work in the field of cancer of the lung. And you say you are unable to keep up with the literature. Or is that all cancer literature, or just cancer of the lung? Dr. MoaAx. Well- J1r. FARNSLEY. I am not trying to trap you. I am just trying to learn. Dr. 11foRAS. I was thinking specifically of cancer in general, all aspects of it-the experimental aspects of viral studies, the experi- mental aspects of chemical studies. I try very hard to keep tip with all the literature on cancer of the lung. But even there I have diffi- culty. And I resort to not only a great number of pathology journals which I read all the time, but certain abstract journals which are published which deal with abstracts of the cancer literature. Even then I find it impossible to keep up with all of it. Air. FARxsLEV. How many scientists-that is scientists in the health sciences-would you say try as hard as you do to keep up with the literature on cancer of the lung? Would you want to guess on that? Dr. MORAN. I think it would depend on the interest of the indi- vidual. A man who is interested uI lung cancer specifically would certainly make the same effort that I do to keep up with it. A man e-ho may be interested in diabetes or pneumonia or some other disease probably would only read occasional articles dealing with cancer of the lung. Dir. F..RNSt.EV. I know we cannot get exact figures. But as a layman I do not know whether it would be 10,000 or 10 or 100 that might keep ttp with the literature on cancer of the lung. Dr. Moawx. I would guess not more than 1 percent of the doctors ... n.,. ~,Gth a11 the literature on cancer of the lung.

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236 c1liAltr:r'I'r: LAIINIdNII :1N1/ .1111'NICI'IRIN(:-1DUG Air. I%ulrrw. '1'llal.isrigllt,sit. Al r. Fu1tNl:ua r. Rul lrr th;w lflU hrmrnl, in uUler trnrds. Mr. Volrre.. '19rtt ia rig61. Nr. ForzNl!r,.tr. Aull yuu Cmully, LLuugL, nnrrowed it dowrl L. 2: /1,11011. Mr. Fomm. ]lfay I rest.lde, tLa.t, sir. I snid-nnd I will Inleal-- tlmt tlle privale health orf;anir.adions with which I Lmve tvorkeil for a glYed uutlly yrsrs, beliovu Illnt t.6(; uumber or deaflls--mmr6cr of nl 1PusLin lUnl,llnol.l even ~t l)~ t most. e yu' ncicr comt nterl Call y lell Inik R , I I J' exactly how mnny denths are caused by cil;uretla sinoking. Ilnt. most of Qro scicn6isls IIra61 Itnow xnd work willl Ix-lieve it is 2Cd1,0o0, in that. )'nnRo, lnnylue highe,r, sir. 11fr. Knuxr:ons. In ol her words, Jrour infornml ion, nnd your eslimato of lhe muubor of deaths, is basoxl on wLat yon say to bo scientific ocidrnce. Dfr. Fnu,rr:. I never mndr np any Iil;m-rs ou Ihesn ILingn at n11. I got LLeln from scienl isl:s. Alr. KueNlsaAr. 1"uu nre Gunili:u', ol' vnnrsr, tvillr 16e repolit of IlleCuuuuil.lrc of 1.6e 5w-Rron (lr.um-nl uu tiu:ol:inR nud lleall ll. T1 r. Fou~rle. 1"es, si r. Mr. KonNr:a:tv. 1 asswnoyou hnvestudied il.earetully. AIr. Fuurlt. Teti, sir. hlr.Knlwr:onr. Andyonarciungrt_r~lurld.wilLit.T Tf r. T/nrrr:. 1Yitl1 most u f i l.. 11fr. KunNlsanr. Pnrdnn? 711r.lirxnw. tiVitl:musl.ofit.;yes. 11Ir i(unNeaAY. IVllslpnrl. of il :Iro ~nn unl. in ngreeluenl, willl? DIr. Tnorr:. Well, 110 ver.y si,uifi:;un linrl, sir. Alr. FnnNr,unr. No very sihnitiraW pnrl ? Air. F:wrrl:. 1 Lllink it wus 7t rai.Lrr cousrrvatl ivr doramlrad., D(r.l:nnrlu:nni-. (',twservnt.ireduoumrut.? Mr. Fou'rx:. Yes, sll'. Air. AuamEuAr. 1Vuuld i'uu say Lllr prut/lr. ue Ihc conuuillen tvere qunlilied and rs1lr.rls iu Ihclr Cmld Y Air. Toorls. I am nll for lho doc.nnlrnt, sir. Air. Kolweanr. Now, Irl0 mrw refur lo pat;e :if,16e olfrcls -)mrler this LeadinR `ol'lle etfecls of swokiut* princillal Ynding9" I assume Llle:y meau principul findings of I Lo Sur );eml (wuernl's (',ommiliee. It says, and I read fronl t6e firslt pnrogrnpll, under ILat LendinR: The lotal nnla6rr of excessive dratlw cnnvally rclalwl to cigarrt.te smoldng h: thc O.H. hopalnf iou cn anot 6e accnratdy vni i matwl. Air. I~'ourw. We Ilnven't tried lo. 1Vhrn we, rnn~e it. from 126,on0 fo 4(IO,f10) 16at is uat Irying to nrrur:drly r!i ima.lr, cn.. 'I'Lnf is Ll.yinRr 1n llroadly nlqlrnximaln. itlr. KurlNeanr. 11'ell, Illry didn't nsr nny liL'ln'/re like you nre esinR. 11Ir. A f!m;lt urury sr.irnlisls Lnvc, cir, :uul you are goiuC! In Leal test.imoqy---- 111r. IDnlNr.aal-. IVrll, tLis is snpposrd to Irc n ranpil:rl.ion of a.ll ILr srieldilit! knmclydho :nld infornurlinu . ollrlI//l up to tke t.ime of thn publirnliuuofihr.rrpurl. 11Ir. Nuorh. 1'an Ilr:n-d I)r. Lul6rr'Ierry '1n.~~ Innl wrrk tLal kunlL~rds rrf Ihullsnn:iKof Ilrnl:lr Ilad dinl Crnul 111" rtfr"is nl i~n:nl(iuff in Illv Ifl:a i ~. i /'I(iAnR'I"1'IA I,AfIr:1.IN:7 ANn .AnCr11Cl'IslN/l -Itlrr i :,1.1/ Alr. K, :r.xlmN t-. l"on sn.y Illnl Ilu~ rou (lrnrrnl's rlpo:rl, or Illo rrllorl. ll:l he. tia-I;rnn ( Ieuernl is 1ousrrrnl i ve siure I hry did un1 n~u Ihn lip!In~es you n rc usinl; nf 2a0,11(lo doal hs a ye.nr 4 Itlr. F:uvrr:. Not.ntnll,sir. I will Inll ynn ttLy I snid Ihal,lorlenrit up. 1;nn lidnlil.le.dly o,dof my arrn 6r.re 6rr:nlco 1 mm mul n Prienlivt. Iint Ihe scientisls do frrl that in nat :dl.ribuling n rnlvll relnliun>:hip Io elupll)'sonla nr o:udimnsralnr lunllrrs it ltns on Ille ron=ertnliro sirle. I1Ir. I(:nrnr:a.tt'. 1L: )na Inmtc auy srienl.isls wllo ditiaRrer willl you on 16iswnllrr? IUr. Ftwrlm:. No, sir. Alr. KnuNl:o.tt'. 1)o you persnnallr know nn,y-scienl isls who disngren wil.h I Ile ronclusions ~'ou hnvo furmrd 2 bl l'. Fua,rn. I dodt know :ul.y prrn.nlnllS, sir; no. ;1Ir. Krolrrizr,nt-. 1'on Icnow, of rnluGe, ihere lue a atrrnfl nnulLer of oulslunilin;r srirnlisls 16rnn:+Uuult liu Ilnllyd Ftnlrs Ichn lmrc Inkon is=un Alilh 16c 5ar:;run lirurral's nlml'I, aull willl Itlc lwcilinn Iln)I. ril;n rrl ll,snlukinl! r;nlces Inn¢ /':uurr. AI r. F:Mrrla. 1Foldd ynu tcil wr 6onw;wy, sir? bfr. KunNrs:v-. I cmddn'f. fell you 6otr mauy, Lntl)r. ('nrler Lnd a list.. I Lcliure it wns G-i----tLe ~llLor dny. I will lell ,you ILnIt lasl, year we held Ilenrin{[s ill Illis conuuitler, luld sowe who it app/mred In Inn tlrot bnsnd on their prdi;,rree t.hrTtveren ontstauding meu. (hle of Illem snid, for ex;uulde Ihat Le «~ns n I ~lurnr.ie sln~,eon, I hnY he Imd Imrsonally opcratrd na ~I,IIIN1 Imn ranrrr 1n~cs, and i~l Ilis r~lnsid'.rrd olriniou, eigturtInsmolcinl!unsnut. t6nc;lnsrof 1nn);cnllrel. A9r. Forvrr:. I)r. Itnrford nlsn snid it tcns notnn,y henll h Lazarll. ilTay I sn,y, sir, Ihnt,IFI srelns likr a cer)' small nnmlur In me, con- siderinR I.h) fact thnt tllo AMA snys ILe.ro nre 285,000 Idlysiei;uls in 1-ho IJntled States, awl (ho survey thmt-I)r. 11orn roentioneJ Inslt week showed t.Ln1.111.8 porr,ont of physlcinus ILouRllt. il tcas a Ile,alilt Intznrd, n.nd'1,.R Ihou;;6t. it nas nol.. So, if nnvLudl' 1nuLed Inn;g unit l/:u'd enough LeouRhttolntabinloj!el nrolmdtf,GfNl,notB1. Air. f(oaNrn:A.'. jF'ell, Irt. mc sev Illis, now. I:uu nnl a I'IlySirinu, 1 mm 11ot a1 scirntist. ftld. I hn.l'e Ilnd W111111 rXhI1S111P 14, 111111I1,.LI I1':1111- inl;. 1 nln a I:uvye.r by profrssiou. 1 Ilnpc 1. Il.lu null slepping on mly docl.or's t,ocs. Rut, hxsed nn my exllerience in rily in'ofes4lon, INeadd say ILnI( tho l)t'ohlellr is flle nv111 ARe t1aClol' in t.ho 1lniled Stntes is not, en export in tkis pnrtic,ulnr aren. 1 think ,yoa have gat, to Ro to those wLn practice in this area. There nre mnqy Lhiufis ahout Inw 1 dnn't know, for exrttnplo. Afrdicinq like law, is an uumonso field. And in /,rder to know tehatl yno nrn I;lllcing n6nn1, ynn hvle hol.ln hr an vxpelil in Lhut. pall.iculn.r fiald. f\nd I s:ly to 1'un, sit, 16nt. rertninly wo llnll sonlo experts in this Irrea of thorario surgel_v, lu tLe area of Illn lnnp, to testify 6nforo Ihis (.nmmitten, and lo r0.ise serions ryurslions about. l.ho u.onelnsions thxl'i wero t nken in the Sm~gonrl flone.ral's rop~ni.. Tir. Golrrr.. 1 nln nware of 1 hat, sir. ltnt, in mirpe1.i1 iou, i ce poinf rd otd.-teo Lavo done a littln bit, of rvsenreh--tllnk Ilrero wonld never bo an,y law for vnrciualiun ngninsll snullllm.x, if yon lrnilyd unlil nll 1 he oxperls stid ilt was 1110, rit;Ll1.6i ug~io Ilo.

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334 CIGARETTE LABELING A&D ADVERTISING-1965 Lyons, Jones, Quinn and Sprmti- Protein-Polcsa(cbarid Comp'exev of \ormal and Herniated Human intervetebral DL;cs. Proc. Soc. Esp, Biol. & Med. 115:818-814, 1964. Cannon, Htand, Pieaza, Jorge A. and Sprunt, D. II. (by invitation). Study of the Relationship of Btood Gric Acid and Herniated Intervertebral Disc, Pre- rtented at the Eighteenth Annual Meeting of the Neurosurgical Society of .tmerica. San Juan, Puerto R1co, January 26-3e, 1985. The CHntR.rav. Doctor, thank you very much. Mr. ROGERS of Texas. I want to compliment the doctor on his state- ment. I think it is very clear, concise, and ea.sily understood. 1 have no questions. lir. You.eER. I have no questions other than to congratulate the doc2or. Mr. IKoexECar. I want to compliment the doctor also on a very fine statemealt and say that he put this statistical proposition in a good light which well explains a lot of the things we have heard here-tlte fact that you just cannot take two factors and automatically come up with a thirtl. This is like the story I heard the other day, Statistically speaking, since they put Smoky Bear Iwsters in the New Y ork subways, they have not had a single forest fire in Manhattml. Thank you very much, Doctor The CuAIBrtAN. Mr. Farnsley. 1Lr.FAS.xsLEr. Thank you,'afr.Chairman. Doctor, we have only had one man that I can remember who was competent in any of the social sciences before us; a psychologist work- ing for the Surgeon Geneml. He said he had made no studies, but he had read the literature, and, in his opinion, the warning on the package would cause the sale of cigarettes to be reduced. And a gen- tleman withgce at experience in the advertising field thought the same thing. He thought it, would virtually eliminate cigarette advertising, although he later said maybe this would not happen. I am convinced a study ought to be made as to the effect of the labeling, as to whether it would cause consumption to go up or down. However, it seems almost certain that if the warning on the advertis- ing is passed by the Congress, we will be presenting a windfall of almost a quarter of a million dollars a y ear to the tobacco companies. Have you found anything in the studies to the effeet they are entitled to that? It is a trick question. Do not answer it. Dr. Srauarr. I would like to say the labeling seems to me might be the old fable-if you call attention of the public-like the shepherd boy that yelled wolf so many times, and the people came out to help him, and there was not any wolf. And finally when there was a wolf, he got ate up It seems to me if you start labeling things now with no more proof than we have now, you may get in the same thing when something really comes along. I do not think the proof is here now. Mr. FAnxsLEY. We used to say familiarity breeds contempt. The first time the Surgeon Generall told us to quit, a lot of us did. If he tells us several hundred times, it may lose its effect. Dr. SmuxT. I think we ought to spend more money on Iesearch- w e should get more facts. T)ector. I have no further questions. CIGARETTE LABELING AND AD{-ERTISISG-1985 335 The CtrAIRazax. Doctor, thank y-ou vety tnuch jl'e apprec.iate your presentation, The carnm;ttee will adjourn until I6 o'clock in tlte tttotzwtg. }pe have at least four witnesses that we hope a-e can get to in the utorning. I~ow ~e~ people, because of the positions they hold, are m slous to get back to their daily chores, ( Whereupon, at 4:25 p.m., th 10 a-m., Thursday e comnittee recessed ,Apri1 15, 1865.) , to reconrene at

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1/ti tIILVtI':'r'I'tl 1..11tb:LlVtl 1Nh AU11~111'1'ININf 9155 'I'l:i, i. uul. I.hr Illwl.bw iu Lilit;:d.inu lutulcink r'ii,nreltrs nnd clwccr. Thrrr in no nlhrnlinu Ill:d n furrign snha:mrr tcun prc.~rul in Ihc riK:url.lr..'I`hc I:Iainlilt u:d rloi:n thnl II:r rilmrrllus w,.rc ~4 wrlhvl:uulard cprallly. 'nco. pluiulill dnrc uul allo/te Ihr prescuro nl' uu nllrr,;ru of n'hith Ilre plydn1.10' nhunld kacc Lr,n lc:uvrcll lu effcrl., Ille plrlhdrilT is nllrglug Ihnt Lhe prunuvl. suhl, -rn 1 Wnll:h It cnc uf uI1t11JnrJ rpuOit)', iekvrrnll)' .",eln{nn a xnbxtnurc in Ihc luhurru whirh mude il. uuslrJtnhlr :uul ou.:lli+ nnJ wlJrh rnnanl his hlJnry. 'rle plninlitf drm:mds Ilurt this acfroJnut rvirulrurne hlm fur Ihe lnjmy hc r.ull'rrrd hrr:urve uf Ihln NuLsluure hl Ihr Inbnrr,r wldrh hrcnched Lhe. Implle.d wvu'nult;t' nf snilnbillty nnll nptnty. Ilntlrr Ihr rnlieunle Ihnt the Inw imposes shict IInbllity on the mnmrfaatnrer (nclhr) ou Ihe Unvrry thnt he hnu tha hetter optstrtlnrlty ef Infurming hhnnclf uf drfwta nnlt dnnRrra In Ihe pr,wlnel. Ihe rnurta have dirntt,d tke inry lhat. ht order to Ire linLle, tile eefenaaut tlrrouglr the exercise of ordinary hmmon sitltl antl ItnnwluclFM1 nt the /hnu ef aale of the pro,lact orulsing the cenetr, uutst Ir,rvn hwm nhle lo forrare Lhe Injury to the plahd.in. Thin reatrlet.hm of "inre- xrr:lhlllly':" n Ooclrlue nNce fnwld In nrgliReme netious, Ia Renerally now la wnrrfutly nrnnns. 3nrh n cluuge wtts npprnvrrl hc itoxa v. Philip Alarix rE Cn., LdJ., auprrt; Lmtirfurt r. R.,f. Rc7plnhln 9'nhnrru,.voprn; nml Pritnhard P.IdfrAclt 6.Allpaa Y'abnaro 1'n., .ruprn, anll eunld necault. fnr the jnry vertlict for Lhe detcedn nl hl Ihr.<r onsts. Phr jmy'a crr:iirlI for l.he tlefcutlnol. In Rrr.nn v. :Imerican R'nhacno Oo., daprn, wna persdikly LrnngLt, aLemt, ut Iwtst ht Imrl, Iry thls chnrCe. The Fluridu Supreme Conrt in rebir lu n qucatiuu crrtillert lo It Ly thr f:nurt nf Aplrealw for the Fifth Uircuit rldnl thnt "tul'esrvnbllliy" n'nn unt n reqoirement for liability in n I+loridn M1r,n.'h nf trnrrmlty nctiuiu. As a rrnnlL, tlle cuurt of nppeala reverned its UI'ior rulieg urul rrmnnilell I.he nction far n utnr ldtd on tlre lulsis nf nhxnhltc liahilily. Viucr 16r pohlirnliou ,-1' '4n:nlting null tlrnlll: i Ilr'Iart of lhe Advi:.ory Ono:- :uille: I:: Ih:' Nnreruu t:rmrul er Ulo t'llldle Ilenllh SRrvlre, 11$. llepnri.lurut of I Irn I I h. 14dur:d iuu, n ull lA'rl l'n re" lu 11169, Imd I ht widesprwlQ nt leutieu I'ha t I hr repnrt rri'rlred, Ihe wnunfacturlts ul'rlgnrrllr:v snrrl}' hnrl kunwletlRn nP Lhr bnnl,fnelsthumVortvaul.alu, 'I'II115rthelll111gG1U[C111111P1'G'fllllCll;al'1`IICCIRIrowfllre- .rc:lldr. Tho pnbliclliun of the repott crenlotl lhrec Cnlegorles o[ Poleutiel plniu. tiR.,: thu: r Ikut em,ikrd :md dcrrloprrl ralu'rr Lrfuro Ihr" rrl.q'L: tlharve Ihnt. lcrrc smnitiul; Lfurv Ihe rrlsrrl, bllt dnvrloi.vl runrrr :dter ihr relrort { nnd, those that st:n'trd to ~mnkr nflrr Ihe mport mul snhwrlurn11.1' drvclePed cfmrer. Arc to Ihe Lut Fruup, IL,rc i.. uu cprrnl.iuu Ilrnl.l.he rnnocr wne ful'curw:hle. 'I'hr group Lllnt arlwk:a nud aovrhopr'd :vwrrr hofurr Ihr pnLlirnli,m of llu rrpnrl rutlhl ntrl: do- prntl rnl thr rrN:rl In rWnhlhh furrsrrnhilily, netl IP Ihr.r hnvr tu rrelnhlish ferr urvvlLllll3 Ihrc wultld hnrr, le nJy uu ulhcr II'. I,i llr ;;rulll' Il:ul unnlaa priur lu Ihn puLli,uli.in .rf I hv nqxni h:a J,rrl.rps '.1 curr ,+ub::rslwvl lo Illr puhlh'ellmr Ilull rrrulr n qeuminry. UlFnrrllr-iudnrrtl rnm'cr I. oul u uurAhnt prulrevlllnn. It Is I;rurrnlly 1'rrul;nlznl Iloll. prelongrd rX1:n"lIP. 1, luroriod. 'rhe Isnlln wweld Irr, whrlhrr Wfurn Ihr InwnlLlllly if clg:nrllrs rnnulm( t'wtrrr luld hunmo furrnaonble hy tvny of the retrort, Ihn pW IulilY hntl rrevirrJ sullirinet rxper<lrre In vil;wrtten Lu indut.n Lis cnnav. If hn Imtl nn/, I hrn hr Ku11Ic1 Irflve tn shuw Ihe fnnwrrnLillly of hUl injury hy other prn:rr. 'Ib hnrr nuy IrRnl eRretlveuexs, n wanling hUllrulrnt nn a pncknge of elanrrttsn wonldlml-rtohnr'IrarastnIlsmennlnR. AxsowinKnclenrshttement,anilshneed tat urnliRenre proL:rLly u'nnld hn bnnrn on Il:rrn nrnnnds 1lnviuK lvnrnntl thr buycq nc! uonmfnr'Itlrcr conld nnt ho n:dq I.n hc nrgllqrlll.; Ilm huyer is rnrr Irihulurily nrglipelrt 111 usiup n prtelnrt he Inlorea mlpht: hnnu hinl; and hnvinF hron wurn,rl thr buyvr usvunles Ihe rislt nltroJm:t Ie Ihe use of the clgnrettrv. Axe,emin/; n clrnr wmndng wne presrnt nu Lha purkuge of claarrl.len, IICLIIIIIN based an hreaeh uf w'nrranty wonld prohnhly br minnrcessfnl. Whru a vrllrr warns a hrtynr nf Ihe posslhllily of n certnin form or In]ary, It rnnnot be snld thnt hc ia lcnrrnntiug that titc InJury will nnt ocvur. Thns, if the wnrnlng clenrly Informr,l the hnyer thnt nmukhla rignrrlh.v m:lY rflnur hlln to drvclnp rmorr, ln:d kr xue5 uhrnd nntl smokvs anywny, he is onl: lrl3'hlt; on nny cxpressrd ur hnplletl wnrrnnly thntt lhe cignrettes will nott r-minc n:ncrr, The wnrning Ims nlrrudy tohl him e tnrelnogea mny be prevent. A warninp statement, if in the form of it general dlnclalmer of iiahility for nny brenrh of wnrrnnty, ezpresa or inrDlietl, may well be hlvlfertlve There in prere- dent for Iho preposlllon thnt fn smnn types crf pratlnrls, surh nn fnnaa nntl tlrnCs. Ihe implird warrnul.irs umy nut tie tllvrhdmrd. 'I'hns, nuy xrmrnl dinrlnimrr a'ilhont :: un:lnr s 1 ILo "p. .ill' iulnr,qi~~L':i:n~.:i .,:.~v 1 I.inn~. I, . n'...I1- t'It:\ItFI"I'b: I..Un:IdM7 \SIr \nl'I:n'1'InINq-140] 1711 Dlr. ALsrn tcoulrl lil;r lu uslk s'uo, Ilr. "1'erfS', In euuwlrn6 on -untulrnJ:d.inn as I o n:lcrrl ivlnhr. s'uw' rr, I)1.'fr:min. thu'rrtnlnnlretloliun trit.ltrep,rardlondvrrlisingisthnl, IllrrrlntnLrnl111 wnruiepgasutrialyd-_. - 111r. \L.tolcnr. \1'i111 nll o.dvrrtisiutr? 11'iill all advrrli>:iu;,r; s'rv,vir. /1fr. \Isnlcas ILlve run ulndr:uly retuumtendnt.inu n51o Lhe furm fYf Illnl/ Ilr.'I'r:ura-. Nnl.stlrnifirnllc;nu,sir. Afr. Afet:lcn.-. T1id pou mnke any reconunendntion to Lhe Fedefal 'I'rntln ('olnmicsion, nr tvlls fLero acl.ion jasf, oit tltnir own in rr_5ponse 1 u vem- rr I lol'1.4 1)I'.'I't'.ntn-. Reforn ihr,y Intdc their netionJ I do not.lxllievn Ih:d, lee ulndn:rlls~ furmnl rr,nnunendalinu lothem. rosaytholcnst.,thnaclion nf Ilut Fr.llt+nll 'I'rnde t'onmtissinn svns Imtinl ltlrt;elj' u lon the sub- ,I nurc of (lie rryrorl. 3vit h trhnYrver nl llr.r in formation tt o~ttninetl frum ol IIeJ' Snll Air. 9fanrs-sr. So the rxtrnttn .chich the I'nblic Ilealtlt Screir,e is inrnlcrd in Illih nlt this point, is Illntynn L:Ive mrvtle a srirntille shldy, incrsl i~al yd I lle lLr:rll h uf Ilnr InIl111C, IIII/I llllv0 ff111M Iljl wilh t.Le fintl- inlrs Ilnd. rrm have In Illis rrporl, and yon hnve not. nndertalrrn, ILrnnah nn,r Icind r:f udminislrnlive nrdrr, to llave nity6od,y do any- I Iline', i~ Illnl Iror? I lr.'flanlv. 'I'6nt is ritrlll. AVe 11nce, on Ihn ol.llm hnntl, nudnrtnlcen, lo I he brct of onr nbilil;v, nn unl.irr rdunnl ional in fonnnlion rnnpn it!n en I he wlLjrrl ns 11-ell ns redirrrl.ine*_ and cxtrndin~ cmm~ of nlu rasr.lrrh tnw:ud Inlqu'ering somu nf Ilm qnrsl inns tlltltv welro t'nisecl hq Ille enelr mitlrr. rlntl fnr svllich we svnntd Iilm nltswPl's. NIr. AlAnlcnr, Sonlc mrmbrrs of 16e commit.tee have felt Iltnt. Ihr.re has bren nn inan5inn of Ihee prnpnr cphere of Cnnl,*rrns 114,11" by the rldin;r nf Illr Fr:lrrul 'I'r:nh' Cnnnuir+>lun, hnt 1.6at :IurS nul invnlvr s'nlu' Ilrir:lrlurrld il r:rv.vc< In wr. II 11'nuld Im lmttcrrn Illtr 1'unPrr,s '. :uld I lfr rouul:dors' LrnlN Ilr. 'I'r:uns. I bnlir.re 111111, nrrrelbing lllnlSco Ituvr ,Inur. Imn Lrrn rlnu'ly svil Itin olu clsl.nlnry nldlLnriznl.inn, sir 111r, n'Inratsc. Ynn h:rve rrnlly r1onr no111ing n.l. Ihiv pnintt exrrlllt mnlln rrrtnin findings and nltenlplecl h" publicize Ihoce nud rdneale peoltln nbont.,yonr findinJ,rs, ie thnt net cnrrrI 4 1)1.'I'611t11'. Allfl exllanf111t1 nlltl 1'ellll-0:`Irt1 St1111e of nllr 1'ePearrll OAnI v.nnllncled ccrtnin etudirs to tl;v to lenl'n .'ll.er how In lln tllee jeb we n.re tlninl!, Illis moft. n[ Iltin}r,, yes. Wn lntve no r/r;!ulnfol.p illncliun, nnd dn nnt brlinvr IL:tt we slro'ralrl Larn n r:rtdalnrr fnnrlirrn in this licl,l in I6e I'nblic 11r:l.llh Srrvicr. 11fr. ATnt'.ICS.-. No flll'1.11/:1'f I1r51.inlls, Mr. Ohnirnltm. 74Ir. Rtxtenn nf Texns. Mt'. ~~nrnsloV. Mr. Ii'Atrnsl.N;r. Thaldc you, Mr. Chairlnnn. Mr. CLairman, I hn.vo t.hrcr, nrtir.lrs frnln yrsl mday's Now Ynrk Tirnrs and ITnrald'f'ribnnr T would likr to make a pnrt, of tlle recnrd. Mr. Rnnrslta of Trxas. What is Lhn3.4 11'fr. Fnnnsla:v. T Ilnve two n.rt,ielrs fran yentertlay's TTerliltl Tribune nnd lnlre ffi'om l.lln Nn.v York Timen wLitdr T wonld lilcn to m11.hn lmrlnf thereenrd. SllnuldIturn Ilmrtlovertnthicgenflrman?

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CIt1ARV:rT1? LAn611Nli ANII AUFRII'fISIN(3-IuliB CItlAlib:'1'TPl LAI1EWNri AND AUChIt'1'IRINII 111/15 222 A I'r.Tl'1'InN TtI'flin 47OAI\!rl'l'P:R IlN INT81tn'fAIF. ANn Mn11nInN C(IM!IFIIt.T. OF TI1R l Inn.\'r. /IF IIM;rIn'.n4:NTA'1'll'I:N We nri;o tvlih nll rmplmvlv nt nnr rvnamnlnl, iudrtd tce enlrrut Ildv eunanltlre lit r.-pnrt IrnivIW ion whtrk tcitl nl Irnsl elrmnnslndr Ike roulfulJuR vnacrnl uf Lho Nntionlli CuverWnelut aud kuponqly will nrgh: lo nr'rr,sL tile Irn/fic nnJ ulo- nrrrusury luan nf Ilfc duc ln rlgnrrlla elaolao4 Nr Ixlierr Ihn1 IIdN cnn 1)ral br nernnlPlishv0 In, lal ndalnlllc rv:lrning In cittn- rrtlc uetvcrl lniati aN trell na en tllc citiarrl Ic pnckngr. We urr rirrply couvhtced of uuc eeulrnl facl: IIuH eiRnrelfe smoking Is n mvri- nns hrnltll hnr.nrd. Tlcfv fucl lu nlso rrcognlzeO nnd hna Utea clrnrly r.nrr's.a'll 6v: The Snrgenn (3euernl nf II)e ll.ll. I'ublic llenllh SenIce; lhe timTrou Ilrncrnl'a Atk'innry l'um- miltrt on FmoFinH Inld Ilen11k7 Ike Urimrinlonl uf ILvlllk. Itqnrnliun, nua O'ei- fnro--nklek IntN nreeldrll nnd nrlnptell Ike rrFrt of Ihr Sur{rnn ilearrnl's Arlris- ury (`rmladller orr 4moitiag nnll Ilralth; Ihn k'rdrnd Trade Unmml.aslou: Ike Presltlent's 1'anllnlNVinn on llanrt. Pisrnsr. l'nnrer nuA Hlruke ; Illc Anmricnu Tledi- rni ANNoclnlinn-okioh 6y t6c nunulnmlw :Irtion af iln konsc uf delt/tnles In June 7964, anrquknenll.v reco>nizrd cl/tnrvlte swukiuC an :1 s:rrinas kenilk hnzllyd; Iko Aulerirnn f'nucer Sucirly: Ike Alnerirnn Ilrnrt Aswniannn; lhe Nnllnrlnl'fnLrreldasis ANsoclnlion; lhe A.uerirnn 1'nbllc 11e:Ilih Asvucintiou. Irnlced, teo kanw nf nn nruanizrvl wrdlrnl ur rsrirnlilic Lutly nq'wkrre kr Ike world which Nlnlrs Ilrnt cilf:veltr smnkiug IS nnl. n Nrrinun kr:llllr 1lnznrd; nnd tke rerogniaed mrdicnl nnd sriralilic bodirs trhich Ancr slnlerl empkntlrnlly LTnt clF:lretle nrnokinR is a Neriuos koaltk kaanl'el nra Inuma'nav nuJ tt'ell kuenrll. Tilc N:ttinnlrl Intet':IRency Council nnd Its ulrnlhrl' orRanlznlluus rceogNlzr thnt a large nalnher of riliavus of this romliry ut'r tlyinl; Irnpirnllv :urJ nanrrr.»vtrilY every tlny frnm the effects nr elanrrtte mmoklnC--nrver hnvink kntl effertiTe nlNl cnnliunons n'urnblgs from their Coverawent of tlle elnukers to wlJck they n'ere esposing them.rlrea. It Iu aow I ponr 2 nlunl6s nud 21 daya sin.ro Ike rrpnrt nf Ikc Snrt;enn Gen- ernPn AdclvorY Colulniltee no Snlnkhl{; :md llenllll c:111r0 for rrtnrvlinl nrtlun- end notlriug rll'orlive Las yrl hrrn done. Are tve lndrod to n'nlt Ilnlll thrre Is nnltuinllty of Inallienl opildotl nacal (lie knzm'da nf cignrrllo xrnnkinK7 If i.kls is Ihn case ur trlll wnlt for a hunelrvvl ymrs. Awl nJlllaus nllnn rnllllans tcill dle 6rfurr IhrIr linlo. For Ihrrc will pruLnblv erver kn nunnilnlt7 un thla matter, its Ikrre Ic not unnnilnlly nn unnct medlrnl lu::l vrlvnl lllr qursl InnN. If IOnNn rrnlwusOdc fur Prolectinn by lutv tlle kenllk of l.ke AnlerIrnn Ianple Lnd irailed far nnnllllnlly nf nloJictO ophdnn. Ihrre tvnul4 not knce INen Inwa roqulrh:g vurrluntlnu for su1n11Pox. Antl tllerc trnnld not Tnre been Imm" rc- qu/rl ayr 1 ke p/wtrarizn l lon uf ndlk. There rnn he uo rynesllnn a'hnlrcrr thnt Illr oTerrchelming mmaJnrity nf mMll- cnl opnlinu-in Ike cntire n'nrlrl torlny-I. Ih:rt rii:nrelle vamkBlk rnuses nnd con- trlbinrN Ia n Im,;r nnmunt nf doultt nud snRrrluk. We Inrllevc lates lu trcntcrt the kenllh uf Ihr Alneriran Itenlde skendd Ac enacted upon tke busis of Innjarlly medicnl nwl Ncienilllc npininn-enprrlnily tcLen It Ia a lulnlly uvertrhrllnlng rnnJnrlly. It seernu to ne nlrn'nrrnnlrvl nnel nnikinkaLle fnr fllere In lie furlher delny In prnlretinl; Ike kenlih of tke Amnrleru) prnPlc from Lnzmilx of riFnretln smnking krrnrwr nr the cnrllr:vy oDlnions uf n relnllvely frw iadivlllunls wku go ngnlnst tlle nlRcinl nrlJ PuLlic Pnsilion of Ikeir own profr.v.vinunl urFnnirntinns. The lhne fnr neIlnn Is Inng nverllae. \Pr deePly Lrilrve thnt Ibr Anurirnn people shnnld be snbjrrleel lo un fnrlkrr Qelny lit Iminy; Fivon prnlerlina frnln thls IerrlLlc antl rnikplc Inaeel6nC luvrll6 Ilnr.nrd e'hirl: is rrPrarrutrel L,v ciltnmllo nmoklnt;. \Vc nrec lkr alwrily ennrlmrnt nf 1rt;iNlnllon rryuiriag 1Lrnllh tvllrldnkq In ~ clanrette ndvertlcins; nnll /m ri>!nr(`ltr pnkn,;rs. - 1' 11 i~ nl ilnr unt In n I lrnve nnv IeRlslnlleu v tnl u 11 n h l ll m I. .nlIr 14e Inn..t pnrt 3 Pt wklrh tvill preccut tile Irerlurnl 'I'rnrlr l'ulnollssiun from rnrrylnl; nnt ils rn- afllnneel Inleatlun nf rrqntrln/t /hrnllll wnrniu>u lit ri/rnrritn mlverliNiuF--n conrluvlmt the I^rdernl'I'rnde fln:ominNion rrnckrd nflnr Ihe mect ialeusive stndy nnd after hnldio/; hnLlir krarinRN. Ite.vperlfnlly sn6lallled. NKrroNAt. INnurnnaNCV i`ouNl:n ON SnlmnNa 4nn Ilt<Nrru. Tlnlnl: pnu, Atr. ('6airnl:ln. '.I'lln ('II.tnlm.tN. 'I'Il:lulc yult, Alr. Foule. At r. Iloge.rs, nny rynrsl ions? Afr. I.utnvats ul' '1'rNnv. I\Ir. Fnolo, titxt Ie.t. nN+ find oll]-.-nutc, Illis lntorai;rolcy Couucil nn tiulolcin~ nnd lllvlllh---trho supllurls Ilutt. Ou:ulcollly'd IV6rre dn you get yonr tnaury In nlv1':Ne? Alr. Iruo'rl<. 1Crll, tTn dnn't n.n err,y ume'6 muucy, Ah'. Rul;el:s, Sl.larl~rety oonu,!6 nxeepli indirerll,y. I~nr e.xnuylle, tile :lmcriran t':Ineer Nuoicly cunlrilrnlrs Ihn wrvirry of LJr, Ilnrnld Itiehll lahu is ~illiur ucrr 6o.ru. lln i. Iheir Inedirnl 17 nncl sainnlitice tlircelor. lir puls eluile. n bit of timn nu il. 'I'hry tlny his nxllrnsrv tr6rn hr gtms nrnlmd. 'I'lle. 1'Iddic. lltnllh ti('rvire ;±n'1v ns two nr Ilucesxrclnt'if-s tilw t}'Po lrttrne. 1 pny uly oll-n ezlnnws, pay ilm,y n.Tn seeretkry,nll 1uy uu~n t rnre.liu:±expentrs. Afl'. Ilum:ks o_f'1'exac. Yon ntrnn nut nf ynln' ln.rennnl fllntls? AfI'. 1'Ool'1!. 1 Cs, 1n/lPell. Afr. 12nla.;ns nf 'Pesns. 'I'horo aro nu nonlribqiinnc nr Ihin~s /lf Illnll lcind ruutiug in lu pny 1'mn'espouties ur Ilny.1'ua it ti:llnr!'? Alr. l~rnmr I\nlle tt'lInltue.ve.r. As a nlnllcr of fnrl, Alr. ItngerN, I tM)k /Lis job--lirsl or nll, it n'ns oll'e.rrd ule us n nunp:lyin,r jnb, :tnel 1 took it tril h tllo flui llo.r euuelil inll 1 hlll I tnnld at nll I llftes pny nty on'n ox )nuses. '1'llia lnay:mem ercenl ric, bul I--- ~fr. IInnees or 'L'exns. T6is is vrry inlnresliul*, AIr. Fuole. IVLnI: is yonr bnchgronnd? Alr. Folrrl:. I tr,l:i nn nlh'orlising ln:nl, nuel a buxinoi,<Illnn, I Lrliet'r. I trnsl rhnirninn nf IIIn bn:n'd of 111r(;:uln Rrie'Icsnn, nnrl 1in ,Snhlenl6el', elferlit'o Nnerulbea' `0. Anel I lonlc ILis jnb Iho follmcing dnv, 1)eeewbrr I. jtfr. Rrauatc of 9'exas. Nnm, I presnlnn Illnl. I'uu :n'n Renrrnlly in- lenwlnl iu Iho Ilellllh nf Ihn peopln n.v n o'6ule, tlud iu prorentiau of cnnccr floul uny stnnrn. Alr. Tnlrrl<. Oh, yes, inllred, air. A1r. R/nn:nN of '1'esas. linl Illr. /Liug Illnt. 1 tTnn tvouJ:rinpf aLuld, lt':IS why you lird in tvi/ll clnnlcinh nnd Itrv.l.ll,h, lt'Inn Ihrre arv olllrr IlLinl;s 16at ranse, crtnner, tou. Afr. Ftnrrt:. \\'ell, Ihn Lest 1. ~:ul Sn,v a6ont. Illnl, sir, is Illi::: I uI:rtl to Irlalm my livinlg wnd,y yau:~ ngu vrlliup{ cif;tu'vltes. 'l'll:li R'n.v 17 yearsotm. AI.Ihnttimo l lladnolulotrledgeornolLnut;61 of n henlll[ juw.nrd-f thonl;lltt they e'ere, lino. I snwlced itrn nr ihron 'mclts s tlay uiysIf. As Iinln woro oll 1 bet;nn fo see fhn nlhrr Sidn nf it. Nntc, I anl ~rlnd,you rnised t1lis qnestiou. I duu'L tvnui ,yon lo Lhitdc that. I Ihink 1. anl tny Inore (Ihiunl 1111111 Ille nexl. ndverlixinp; 1nnu. I juSl. Lappened lo bo exposed lo nlnre informntion. An fnr bnrlt nv 91 yelu:c ago, I tcns e6nirlu:ut of Ihn esnydite rnur nlillon of Ilto Alnnrielul (`:tnrrr S/ltirlv. I n'ns nn e:u'ly dirrrlur of 16o A merican I Irnu't. Assooitll iou. A ntf I 1nne been surl nf snrrtnmd/'d by doe(tn's rot' 9o Inaqy yi I Ilnt'tI11R %111(lltibg tlling htgran 14) 6ervmlo a big problem to me. Alr. I2rol.als of '1'es:r::. 1Ve11, Illo I:Ling thnt lus6es nte, ATr. Nnnln is 1hnt, the,y sin}[ln old cigurette smokinR, nnd e~l of Illese t.rnups yon nn,um hcrn devnln nll of Iheir clfnrt.c Inu'nrd Iho qunvlinu ~11' c~nrrIle sl noltiuP, Ivhtn tce lolmv Ihcrn n.rem at lot or nLLrr ranses uf rnnirr nnll lililfr 1{;I111'el'.

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252 1'll'Al1A'1"I'Pt L:1n191.INll ANn AItA'I'llt'I'ININ(i-IOG6 ofcnusesnlherIhmltunp,rrtnrr.r. 'I'6e,nnmhnrofyrncanceroaslesions iocre:uc.d Rreutly tvil6 ILo :uunnut ul' t.i/,;uretlu snlnkinl;. Ilutcover, neern iu lit/ld, smul:crs \ril.hntd. prrrnnrcrun:; leaion, , , tce- fonnll mnny aYlls wilL nlyl/ira.l nuldc.i. Alrust inlrrrsling of a11, \\n flllllltl flll' Ilslt ntyllit:nl cells ln the ItrnncllinI IoLe:: of nxciF;.ur.l lo sluol:crs I Ir:lo iu I Ilo Lrour.hi:tl LuLes uf inen wlto nsrd c.il;:u'rllev up I<I Lhn Liulo of Llleir doal6. 'Phus, Lheso miet'nscnllie tindinp;s nree iu cuwplele a;{renotenl witll /indinl;s in a Rrent rollny cllidenuuluf;ir.ul sl.nrlies (same.limes cullwl st.tllisl.lcnl st.lulie.s.) lv.pidermoitl Imll; c:uvre.t r;n'cly, if mer, olvms ill uooswollr.rv (except Ihosc nItolrlce mhltlell r,et't:lin robslunct.~soah ns radioacl.ivo mo.torinl, nsbestos dust nr dnst ennlalinimg rIlrolnnles or nicknl). Thc incidencn of Ilmo ettncer inctonu:s grently wilh muomtt of cigarette smolcing. 1/'orlurndely" tlln rislc derlinev If lut erst wLilo ril lu cl ln slnoker Fivos ap I Ile hal il. '1'his Las ulsn bonn rcri- lird by olu'tulcrusonpic IindinRs~ lip till now I have. been spe:Jcin;; of Lllo hronc6inl Lobrs. 'I'luso tubus otorely serve lo Inko n.ir l:lden vrilh oayt{en I,o tho ac.l.ico Ilnrl iun of Ihc ]nnf!s nnd lalco avvny air Indeu vvillt canbun rlioxido. Now I will t.utn al.lrnt.ion to iho jnn.~ lrlnuc6Vntu tvhir'It consisls of Ihulr sands oF IiUIn nir snrs callotl nlceoli. .IL is Illroaf;Ft IILO aalls nf ILoSO snes tllat ucyl±en is lxehnugcd for cnrbon dioxnln in LLe, Mootl. 'ihis vllltl fI1/tClloll Ler.nules Ievs etlicilnll if solnn of 1Ln air y:trs lu'o clrsl roynd. '19to mnjor syntplums of this nru shorlness oF brn J h nnd a tendency to hnc.onm F;tl.igucd ensily. 1 f a hlr.nt, tnnny nP the nir sxcs luo tlcstroyed, the symplouls Irn'ee so.vern nnd I-6o palinntis sn.id 1o ho snlfneinl; frmm IL Jisensn e:l.lled empllysewn. 11~6ilo elupliysemn is nflen falnl its imporlnuac lies in IIIO Llet t.Lnt il. is Ibe enusn of a l;rent mluty rnsos of disablinK disenwes nnd redocecl ability to work. In lulvlnred slnRes Lho individmll hertmles n lmllg ct'ippla. ln orde.r lo slndy 1.6u emdy slnrrs of Ilte disense, \r~ look nlicro- sco lic sacl.ions uf Inn;; p:nrncLyul:l frnw fnur pnrls of Iln. Lnt;,v nf one.It salljce.l.. '1'llis is tc6:ll. \re fauud : Itu nnu;:mula,rn, 1'uFplrvllavs ul' u,n, Ilu.lum+ Iwlrrurhymu. \vas ulmusl, alwliys nurmal, or nclnIy so, rv;t;:n'lllr:;ti af Lhc a,e of Ille. sohjrl~l (eU ce'tt, nF lanutcc, for snbjecis u~hn hnd ~nuln iuleeliv'n rlisense sur.h :Is t.ollerculnsis). In cign.relle, vmnllel., Ihe holg pnrencllyuutI imn.riably showed siy!ns of dluunge to Ihn sir sacs. '1710 llnRroe of su1-h rLunnl;c iur.ratsod grcnlly \cilAt nntotmt. nf ci;;nro.lf.c! cmnlcinr. Jfut'thcrlnnrc ,uuoul,+ r.ignrctlo sulokors t6r, dcl;ron of tLn danm~o incaenscrl a'illt advnnniuq age, HtntA is to sny the dnom{;o is progrecslvn ll6 l.ilne so long os It porsml eold.inuns Iso sntolco ciknrol.tes. I7nfortunnl.nly, it nppen.rs t6at I:Ito Lrnly is nnaLln iu ropwr Lhis typn of dmmago iF n snwker gives up Ihe Iln6it. 1 f a swolcnr gives ult ILe llnbil. LG m:l.y avoid flutlnr rlmmngm to his nir snrc, bol. Lllnt w6lnlt Lns been clonn is nol. nndunr. In ovnn modnrntoly ndvolnerd e:ltils Llto Ilesl.ruction of lnng Lissue is so esIenwire ILnt II clm lln renllily sren vviLLool. a Inicro.vropn. l Itnvn Lrtlughl. Llcu rx:uuples lo r:Low yuu. Om tochniquo is to fill n lmtl; (remnve.d a.t. nntopsy) \vil.h forntalin, a clleutienl vchielt 6attlcns nnd prrs,trves Ihe. I issues wdLonk dislorl.iny; IaLn sllnlto. When Ihn folInnlin is renlat'IIl u.nd I:IIn lmlt; is drird: II. lms muclt iLn uplmnrnncc of n dry spnnrn. Aetnnlly, ilis nmrll 111m (IINAItL:'I"Il9 LAItP:1.IN11 ANP AUYIdNTIHINt1 1965 Tia ono nf Illn new Synlllrt.ic spongos wlliclt hatu agrenl: nlnny lilllr air sl,ares ol' I'n irly lnti lurln sire. 111r. ClluitInnn, nlay I Jeluonslrtdo t6eso4 I Lrmlgllt uly o.rn ilhnninnlnr. nl r. huoo:¢s of'I'exas. S'es. I lop lon;; will Illnt IulcoB I Ir. ;\ r m:ur..tr.11. 1)nc secnnd. '1'hi5 is n. ~rul.inn ul' a hnl~, t.Ln \chnle lml~:, of n1 m,nsmnL't'r. 'I'his is Illn srr.liuu of u hrucy eulolce.r. knd onn Ju/,-;nt Lntle to Lo n llnlhnlngi,cl. lo srn Ihnl. ihe hmg, is t.,tr:dly' desiroyed, big Im;;e nir ;nrs, n:; na rrsult of' I ho des/roycd lunq Lissnn, in a]teavy suloltet'. Antl I'roul uuulhet' case, qniclely, ltero is anolilcr one sllovviul, ILe big see- l iou.c, Lllo big spnles, emphyselun, qrcat du5l.rucl.iun following c,igarcl.lo sinnkiuR. 1. \\'oldd just likn lo demunslrale quielcly, iu piclures, trhntonrsludy has shotcn. This is 1.6e. brunrhinl opithclimn of a. unnsmnker, nnd you tcill nl,ln I llerr] m'r ou ly' I.ICo rovcs nf crlls. 'Ihis is Iluo ltruur6inl epilllrlilnu or nu iudivitFn:ll \eltu llns Inen nx- Itosed lo sInulte, :inll 6erc 1'on =la I Iro vm'inl.iun in I lu: siae, s6nln, nntl sl n iuin cL:unrl lr ~ II I ho cells, I lte rrJls Lhuf. nrr F;ain~ un I t, Iw nl.ppic:ll, alhnorin:t I, auu1 :t rr I ho prrcnnrrruus rells. Ilcrc is nuol.ltcr I16oln;r:tpll Lo show iho irroucudous inrrensn ilt thn nlnuhrr if eells. ~,11 uf Lltcln w'o irregnlnt, all of t6ew are nbuorrnnl, :JI of Ihent nrrt prel'unceruus. 1No eall it procnncerons Lecnnso it hns noll ve.t, invuJrvl ml o I lte. uudrrll~inl; Listino. I lnrn is nnol Ilrr snr6 lesion in a 6rltt~y srooker lrememlons iurren~r in 1.6e. Ihirkoniu;; of Illu epilhtlinln, nnd nll tcilh :Ihunrnlnl rells. I lnrc is nnul6cr onu uo\r shatcin+ Illo iuvnsinn, ILee eluly invnsion, tvitorn in Lhc rcgion uf the plrl;nlcerous lesion I Ilarn is nna' Ille brhiu- nin{; ol' luu,, c;nlrnr. ' 1lern is :luul.her ouo shovcinR ugnin Ihe, iuvuslan of Lho brunrluls by 160 onrly /nnce.r. And llcru is Lllo narnln.l 6ruurhinl gInnd, Ihin, in It nonsntolcnr. Jlern ia lhn I;Innd, sllnvcing Iho I;rcot. incrensa iu uells, Ilun ;.rvnl in- CI'PIItiP in IIIIIPII9, 111 11 llPatY l 'IF;IIITIIt MIIIII:CI'. AnIJ hrrv. Vou r:lu vrn Ille olimt;!es IIIe. ldnck llno I'IIqr1:eulL: Ihnsn \c6n Ilir.rl uf lnlyg ruunc. 'I'6rsr. orr iltn't \tlln /lirvl nl' vausr.c ulhrr Illnn Imy{rnucrt'. Anll yoa rlut rece iii Illr, nouvmdur Ilu lenA t nmubrr of rL:mhrs nnd 1.110 progre.~.i\~o increnso oF Ihewo r.llnnges ns Ille swokin;; Ilnbils iucrousn. - l.u auut.6cr one, yon sce nhllin t.ltn ;~nnt, inr,renso in Lllo mmlber of allnngls as Lhn smoking ltnhits incrnar,<, .vil.h l.ho grentrst unolLur bninl; pmsent. in Ihoso tello llicof Innl,.ennce.r. 'Jho interesting uuu is Lllis, Ir/x'lulccrnus lious, nonep in a non- suwkor, nunn iu Iho nlr:nyiuun~ :auuknr, :u111 inrre:lses as smoltiug Lu.bils inrmnse, :uu1 in Iltis individanl, I.ho 6lnrlc line ro',rcr:eulin{~ ILnsn w6o dird nf luuw canrrt, nllnwiu, Ihe ~ren.lcst nunllml'. Notv, uhen tw indiridual gives np t.6e Ilnbil., this is w'6nt tre soc. We cee Lhe,ce. nl.ypicnl prernnrelnur: vells di.inlegrnln nnd dixnppenr. And LLnn teo urn tc6n1. lutppe.ns tvhen yon conlpa.rn Lhoso \r6o never sololcn tvitlt Lhmn a~Lo have given up Lhn ItnDit, tvillL lhast who still cold.innn lo vuloku 16n snula nuulLer uf cit;nrollrvt lunl yuu nnl irv hcro Lhe.rn ia u1111.imes ;~rrrnler IIi115rrurc hcl.tcrrn Llln nuliridun 6; tr6u rnu- lii'... I" ~nud " Ilr'i,

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'.itr.vulmtf, 'fhsl Ihr :Uurric:lu l:;lurvf 'SnrirtY rmphanlxr Au Ihr :Unrlirnu prupln Ihnt Ihr Invnrully nrnilublo rci/lrure Indloal"s mi ns.urialiuu 6rl+crrn .wunkiug, D:Irl.irnlRrly +it : :lY'rIll..uuukin;~, :wd INUt( ruurrr, :Irld 1u:1 Irnµrr I1rRrrr nlllrr furlnv of rauror ' .W':plyd hy Ihr unliuuRl hunrJ af qlrcrl::rs :d Ihe Antrrir:ul /`.qurrr Nnrirl)'. Iur 41, lubrr 3'1, Ilkil. "'1'lu 6u:U'11 untr brll/vrn Iknl II h:lv u^° i rr.pupvlbi111Y Lolll In Ihr ulrlliral prvfr=ulnn uud tilr y;lurrni Vldrlit 1" nlnlr Ilull In IIs In11Rln1nl I6r rIiul/v11, :'pi/IrulloluNir. rcPrrimrulal, rluNlirul, aud Pullndot;ir rrl/le`urr prr"rnlyd kc 1111 IluluY audirs +rllloll 112Vr Imru rl`lutrird hl rrlv'ut pourn Ilulir:dra bopr,ud ro:lcuu- nllle e1mlLl tlud v11o1 rrllr nmuklu4ln I Im Inu Iur rnm:r ul' I Ilr mlprrrvvlruheI lu'.:'"Iwl Itl Imllt rnnrlr. 'I'Im bu:u'cl I'irlkor Ilrlirt'1, Ilml RII nr;nldz:dinav nud RlaNrIes ruurlvuod lrilh rnurvr hnrr:l rr.puu>dtlililS 11111,rnnJnlc I/rnt;rame nf urll.uu 6:I:ro11 uP'lu Ihiv fufnrlunl iuN in nrdrr In ralnrr Ihr Im'Idrurc if Ihl. IRrl;rl.r PrrcrulaLlr disrunl:" . .Arl iml "f tllr N:11 ional Iluarli uf I tirrelnrs'd Ihe .Alulrirnu /'wlvrr tinrirl,r, Ine., dRllu:u"Y 31, 19/t11, \'Rfimtrrl '1'Idrrrrltlu.viv :Lv.ruriulinu II 'I'llbrl''.111uwin \::..uriulinu trarLn all /eI'n'n11u 111111 : ILrrr I. :111 nlnrlulug lurrru.'r hl /]rRILv frnNl Illu;: ruwvr riRUrrl Ir uululdui: i.. n 1nRJor ruuse' uf luuc ruurrl' 1h/ rink nf 61nc r:ul/or lurrrnnvv +rilh Illr nuul6rr ul' rll:qrrllrv ,autukrd. /iirintc tIP slunkiR-, rrdurr.lhr ri>:k nl' Il1ulc ranrrr. Itorrld. audits.hu++' Ihal rll:nrrIlr NulukluK lu n fnrlnr in surk rrilq:liuC hnl>; Ill.cen.cr.a aa rLroulc Ilrnurhilinundruq'Ip'I<rlnU. 'Phorriunu..ina;lr/'oulnrfurnllllulg /lronlh- laq; pr,llldrd rll y nir In:q' It1su ndA In Ih:` rink nf luug rnnr/1'. Nu prr.rnt mrlhnll uf IrrnlIu;; Inb:lrro ur IillrrinK t.hr urnultr Lua br/u IlroveJ to rrdurr Ihc Ilnrlnful rlTlcl. nf riK:jrrlll` .ulokiu'; up Io uuw, ihoar hurmfql elfrrlx rnn Ac nrnidrll unl7 Ly uul :auokina; (iRUrrllrv. All pI r+hortld hl` givrn IhrNr fnrt.. 1'wvtlis. IrntLr",:uld I/LYl:-ians hRre R u/evi:d appurhudl7 uutl n dqly In.rurN nur yonlh uf Ikrvn farl.e k1Ywr Ihr ri9:u-rt.lr solnlclu>; hnLll Imx Lrlvlpr rvinblluhrtl. :\pprnvr/l ky Illu Nnlluunl'1116orrWu>:iv As.urinliuu ItnRr/l nf 1Hrrrlnr., vrlnru- nr)' _,, Ill/ill. :Lr.rrirrnl 1'uM1lir IIr41lh :Lv.vuefR/i'nl "I'I Iwltr rRNrrr iu n rRVitlly hu'rr:l,alng fn61i Illur/rur + ~. nuel "1\'horrnn nlIrnliltr rvidrurl: 11t1N rxLlLli-hod 11,111. oxrranlcc 091 Nnlulcinf, 1.. u ullljur Glrtur in I.ho diren~C: nnd "11'lumau 1mLlb hrvllik ulliriRlu iu Ikr 1!uilt'/l SInlea snll ucluy nlhrr ruuuhilv hRrr Puinll'd nlll. Iho rrhdlnnnhip Lrltcrru rigm'Mlo slNUlciu4 aud Illut: rnarrr: 'I'hvrlI''Nr, hr ll "Cr.eul:"rd, 'I'hal 16o Aulrrir:nl 1'nblir Ilvnllll AFsnrlalioN r'nll u1N'u hl':11111 aulhnrilir',v In aullrrl:lkr it llrunll rlhlr:llinuul 1'Rurl, r=prrinll)' InrlnnK ynaur: :'i'.::I I',I I .lilI:in/' ::Inl I,.. 11 flll'l lli'1. "Kl..~'lrrJ,'1'Itnl Ilrr :\ulrrit':1u 1'nbllr lirallh :\lluriNlian Ilrcr hrnllh IuRh'~ri- Ilrn In rollaLnralo ++iIL rIdnul:u')' Ilrnllh nrk:INiznlluR,. :nW +vilh rdn/'nliuuul :mlh"rilirnlnl6l.rffnrl." Rllk nunqal mwIB.I!. .\Ilnpl/vl b,Y 111t :1n1r1'ir1W 1'oldiv Ilrnllk Aswxinlinll. /lrln6cv' 21, 1!IiC/. Ur{[r .11'll:\ IurulLoru lu In"^+'i41 1ru11rrublV in rvlnlrUllun:ll urll+'lllr!1 In ludi- ''ulr Ibnt ihl` /'rnnnf. Ircl`i uf Hmukiug ruu;/lltlltr& II xrrlullv l+ralih lulzard. I lffrr :\I'll.\ ~RPPnrI. lu Ihr 1'nltlir 111nlllt Nrrrlrr, nl6rr nlli'-iRl Rud rnlNUInrY hrnllll u{[rne'ttI:, luld 1'rnfvsni.nnl ne:rllll r'ralniv.nliuuv; :Inll tu nrhnnl:t Nn/l alllrr v,luluutuilx utirurlo. lu inlli:diNR Plnuuin>;, unA intyknlrallll/t :ul rtlurRliuRl In'~ p'Rin, :md xIIPUnrI, uf nlllrl' lu/'u,u111'r,. Ilml. 111:1Y Irt 11"r6+rel Iu drRl w'1111 11,18 /11'nl.ll'lll. Ilrgr Ihr Inh:lrrn IhldnslrY, nQt'rfliWhll; srrvllvu, null lhr CnI iuuRl A.weHhll luu nf 1p~uudr:wlrrN In rnllliwR In lukn rnlRUlnrp slrpN In clrnlrul vl{turrltr ndc/rllsluf', InrrI Irulnrl)' Illut dirrrl+d Rt pnunC Ivnplc: 1117:r 11ttlNlnlirl` Ultllba und hurrnuN tw rlNPnwrrrll Ln rrglllalr ril:nrrllr ndrrrl'ivinlf. I'WI fur ruullunrd rrsr:lrrL null druwnNh~nllnn uf rlLlrnlluunl lUUI Rvllnu Prn- Krnw.v Lnllrd ml resr:lreh Iu Inrl hudv nf dedorrhlR Ynnul: Wnple frauL Ilrgluming tu nnlnltn anq uf rurnuruhhlg nllnll¢ lu /;icv nP nr rut Ilown nu Nlnukinl;. :\Iluplt'd I/rInllVr 1!ki$ LY I('/crrlllllt' rllllllfil, t)1%t. 0111111:11 II1P1'I111{:. 'I'll c:I nlrrirvrn Il orrri :LvsuoiN / iun 1!kl.'t nd Ilm ruuuullir1 nu nmcukiuR unll rnrdlur:lcrul:tr Ilinr`uNl.¢ rr- pulird : nu \I:y 11, 1!N!:t `` III:11 Ihrrn iN m1AllcirnL erldrnrr uf Ihc luu'Inful rRr/'la nf r1l;arrllr ,uunkin4 uN hunllh iu tcnrrtlnl. di~rnllrnlfluF irvu- n:;rcc 1'ruln dr+'rlnP4uK Iha hR6il. rIf cmakin~. 'f'hr IlrhuarY rridcurn Lf ILo h:lrm- ful rRrrL uf rlF:lrrllr utuokiul; ernlulul+ Ihr nlnliallrnl r/In1lnnNkkiD 6rhrwu nmokblg :uu1 mnrl:llily frum rur:.nar)' Rrllry dicruNe, 6uL a unmbrr ul' nurillnrY frai m~r:c Nrv ale<u rr-,n/;Ilirrll. IurludinF offrrlv lu /IUPIp'erum, Prripllcrnl cnnvuI:u' /liwn,al, :nld unt. lu 6r /Irri'Innkrll, Illr rr1R11nuvlJp lo rnrl'luaunt of Ih/ Inue. .\'~''nrdll+gl)', Ihr 1'olnudllrr rrrnlnlnrnllv lhnt Ihr uRlinual nillrv` uf IIII Alnrrirnu Ilr:vl. dnsrlalnILq1, u+ +Irll un nlllllhdc un11 rllaVlla h'mrl ny+u,i:Jlon:'. Lr prrullllrt) lu jniR Irllh nlhl'r vnllullarp nnd o/ll-i:ll 6rRII11 nl:rurir~ BI rllll- rnliuual Prtq`t'nlna fnr Ironnprrv 1'rlnlivr In rltfnrulll` nuluklll!;. Phr nnlmilll'r IlutLrl. rr"rnnlnrudn IL:d li r,a1C rwvufnGrturlll le~ nlr,p vnudauc, luulrr 1`Iq:arina suprrrl.iuu, 6r {;II'Iql prupIr +rhu Il:n'r n 1091, risk ul' Illalh aud Illnrsu 1'rutn raruuw'Y Ilrl:r.r Ji.r;/ir:lud luYurnrdkll lufnl'rlinll; nuulrlY.lh~t.r pilh hiKh Iduu11 prr.v.urr, IdKh Idullll rhulv.IrruL nrlrl. sIiaw nf h:n'dl`uiRg nf I In` nrlrrirv, u fnnliiy hiaary uf llrurl all:mlcs Rull I+II'"kru in milllllo nytr, nl' a rn111Ainatinn uf nltY uf :I+iunlly. Ihl`. 1oulnllllrr mrnunurud. 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Ilnriug rerirwrd Ihr ut'liollv nf 'In hnllsr uf /l"Irr,nlnv ,d Ih" Aulrrlrvn Tllvliral Av+nrinliou, :IrR/IaLlr pri111'il ~I r1lRdinn, nutl erfY 1'"'rlh'ul. tvnl.llunlp' Irofnro Iho rrforrnrr I~nunulllrr, it lu`rRIM rcillnNl. 11. ynur tunlmilloo tllnl Ihr .\ullrirnR MrdirRl A.srwiuliult iN uu rrrorll mW dura nroggnir1 n aiHnitlamd rrlnl.innullip 6rl+vrou rit:nrnltr swtlkiu/: Rnd Iho Llrllleurr uf IInIF ''nuror m1/1 ,rluiu nlhrr dil+onsrw, :n10 Illul rif:nrrltr umuking iN n NrrlunN Oonllh h:ram-tl. .'Phl .Ak1A rrruk`uir.rs Iltr uuMriLnliou nf lllr NllrH,,n: UI`urrnl'u ,..Innlilllr in^'ilv roulpnL:n.icl rrPUrl. lu lur/,ill_ t+'illl unr uf Ibr rrrorluur'nqalioun uf Ihix rrPnrl. 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1!111 r/uAlncrnc I..uru:l.lrvr, Avu .vtnF IrrlsrNt, --laar. 11Ly nul? I wrarn 111 isissrrious. I nu nal. jnsLlrn,viuR. .AIIrip,.hl~,iflhuc.i,g:urllepto(>leltxdcll:rtcltislty mnlde'sndcrrtising ecxte, yuu iwplied Ih::ltcnukl Italp:ur6iln urci, tvItrre Ihry dun'L nd- terl.im+on L,levisiuu. I h'.'lluutt. 11 duu'I. I<nutc IV lml hrt i/, tcuuld Itellt or nol. klr. I~.utrcxl.e.y. 11'Iwl1 are Lhe :u'h :nue.nls ngninslprohibiling ::II ctdcert.iniug ot' rigntr.ltts? Ih. 'I'tanty. 1 just donI, t.hink frnut :e philusopLivn.l or pr:nclird sl:twlpulnl.l.lnd. tcnungtetlol,rnt6nt fnr:rl.l6isIimn'sir. \I r. F.+tcNSl.r;r. 11'Itat du ynn IItink, l11 r. 1'.vyc6nlnt,.ist.? Dr. I lu¢N. I Ihink Ihe puiut lo IK+ mndt, is ILeI yuu rau'6 m'cu get. a et~n.cninl, un .rdrerlisinti. 11fr. Fn¢NSt.rrr. '1'Itis PTC mm11 is a crusnder. '1'alk In hint aLuut alxrlishing ndverlisink. Yuu sur, InikinR uu+v pulitically. lou Il:iulc mnyLe Il:e ('nnf;ress (hxvo2t have cum::ge lu slol+ndverl.isino? I/r. IlaeN. Nn, no; 1 didn't sny t6nl. linlynu nsked my oPiniun alxtnt .cludi tvoidd hnI:lten nnd tlto bnsis fur 11m1 npiuinn is 1L;tt if advt+rl isinR tccrr, prnlti nteJ or i f adveti ising6nd---_- AIr.F.tiwst.n.v. (',it;aretlrrnnsampl.ion+t-onldt;odntcn. 1)r. IfoitN. I tconld s:ty Ikc slruu"rsl. I:uint nf evidencc in favar of t6n 6tcl. l6nt ciRr:ueldo r.onsunrpl ion +rnnld );o tlutcn is LLe enerl,,y with trltich I Ite luLntxu induvl.ry tv:sisI s Lk is prupnsn l. Mt. FAUNSt.F:r. ,1ust. Lm.rnuse Ihey nre lub:taco pt~ tln tlnesn'f. make tltem cuwpelent in :rll f:elds mry wore.lLan beinl; the nrl;tatu (7rwer:tl n:n.kes yun ron:pelent. iu 6is ticlrl nr Liw ill ,yours. T rvmldu't Inke out. yuur ulqu.ndix. ''Iiis is silly. Itnl:erclltlly I;uo:l guys rmne in here aud t;iro nv upinions, Ike AAIA did ill Iko tinri:tl sriencen:md 1 eunldu't. lell Ilww nhurnl. Ihe.ir insit;hl, bulI lhey suun,led I+I'el.ly eltildislt lo uiee u6uul. npplicalion nf (iovrromcnlwriulu;,y, IreythnloSy, nn:l nnl.ltre- pnlat,.y, and T Inld Ihcnt so, :u:d t6ey rlntnged Ikeir pnsil.iun. They a re n ice penple,. II snid, ccl~tol:, echen I nm sir.k, I nm a. Iqltor.hundriur, I uced dnc- lers," tlntl I+vnrktd Lnrvl lo raiso n:nney fur inrdirul srhunls nnd ha~- pileJs, Lul1.6oy are uu6 of Iht+ir field. Nmr .1'nn htnre. hut une guy in this fielJ Lcrc, au Ihcs: qucslions, jusl nnr, Mid 1:r is nll ynn Fmcr. got. 1:uu gain:r (4) yuit. 11, is I:ne nud yuu :u'e nic.o mul ynu ure p:el icul. tutd I hu ve enjuycd it. 1'6trnlc yon, y;entlemen. nTr. l'.tirrr:¢. 11'ould I he I;eni.le.ma u y iek I fnr :t yuesl inn ? Afr. F.tetNat.r:r. Ycs, I yield. Mr. C.ttrrtat. I nnIc Iho disLinl,.uisLed tiurRenn ('mmmrel one mure. nnest.ion, l'uu Lruog6( nnl. t6e pussible h;ezards, shall tvc say of 1Le smukiuh, tlte dwet;rrs tehirlt n.ree iulLtrrut. 1. wnulcl nslt (lie dis- I in~nishe,d Renl leum u i f he st ill smnkrs h is I:ipe. 1e,<, nir; I st.ill du. Alr. H'A¢NSt.rn-. 1 yield. I quilo, smnltiuR t+vrrylhiu~ in l!)IH. nfr. (4mrrFat. I yieicl lr:uk. Mr. 11nax¢s nf' Tesas. 'I'ke Chair rtrugnir.eg (lie gentlemnn $ntn 1?lorid:t, Alr. Itn~,mrs. Tfr. ltuceaa nf hluridlt. Thank ynu very mnrlt, Mr. Chairmnn. Dr. '1'erry, 1, Iliiulc it is aLuvtty :rrcnmplislte:l fart, onw, everyouo nhrrcrs 16utIhrr is svotr danw.r to smulcinp~ unil tre Imyn k.ot to tln I t9c.vlP:fT61 LAIDEaJM1I; ANU Anct;lt'rIRINa 101,13 (!ll ' snmrWin;{,ehuul.il.. '1'Lt.c'nnrsrtt/nt.linn I16iukiseclml trrnnnnll% rauverurd +c il l: hrre aod Lutc it. shuqkl lrr dour. I)u ynu ftel Iknt a+cnruin;{ un ;i pnola:rre of ciRat'rl.lrs is I:ebtlin;;? Is il, Ike I1ep;uimvnCs puvilinn t6ut. Il:is wurdd be lulttliug4 1 h. '1'raun'. l'rn, si r. Mr. Ruqr.¢nof FInridet. Nol.ndcnrliwinl!,Ln1.laLelinR? I)r.'1'ratin-. 1es, sir; this is Il:o I)tp:uimenl's peslliou. Alr. Ilt:cua¢r+ of Fluritln. I audrra:uid tnnc ftvut ynw' Irslitnony Il:nl Yun frrl 16,t1 ilt is more nltln'uln'inti for IIP711' 1,. a:lwioisltr Il:is Itrucl~iun if +cc. ccerr In Irtsv Ll:o I::cc, "iv:- . nulicnrillIn 1I1?R' tu sre. Ihnb this ia douo, rul6or 011111 /u Imvr tl:r I~etler;tl'll'ndo 1.'nuuuisviun tlu it.astu LtINling. l)r. 'I'uatnv. 'I'lus is Lhe. I)epn.ti mtut's v ien' rninl on it, :utJ Al r. Fdlrn- bol;eu rnu disrnss il, tvith yuu if }ou trmdd lie, sir. lln is mur.h nwre :uvlwtintrd tvilh Ilte b:rrkl;r:nmil fur this decisiun thnn 1. :un. 11Tr. Ruriac.c of Florid:t. 116en wvs Ihis decision nmdc? Ih.'Ibann. Well, urlu:tlly, I I:is tcna n. prolwtial tven Iasl. yr:u' tc6rn tce lesti/itQ Lrfarn yonr rnwnillrr, 16::1 thls wuv aw tuorlrmisv: tly teltir6 I::IKdiuR rvnilil )x+r:n'rieyl utd. 1 Ihiule aslitut+lens;rnnt+:t1urtg. Ih:d Iht, 1)rp:u'Imenll pn.sihl} fvvls :t lillle wure slncuRl}' IL:et ILis is Iht+ belter tn:y to tln il, but. 1+rutdd like Mr. 1$lltnbulmn to sprnk on tLnl. Mr. HnauatR of 1Tlurida. 1Pioo. Dlt. I':rt.t:NnuarN. As 1'on tt'ilI rernll, sit, n'hen the. Surgeuu (ien- cra l. n pprn.rad last yea r before yun-- Imtoug o16m41 nccum p~micd Liut-- wo relxn'tcd :tlLkaL Litne on eiglet :lilferr.nlt bills 16at wr,re prntling before this tuuunitlce, aud 16c SMrtlary 1nulc the vime i6:t1t in yiPtv of ILo t.)'pt, nf rey;nl:d iun invulced, t Lc type af lel;iskd.ion LIrrl1 is rrpre~ srnlwl6}tlte I~ttlt,ral I1:uarJuustinLslauresL~eLeling Act --imlactiun, seir.uru nul.Lorily, nnd :;u fnrtlt, Ilenl. Yon :urr familiw tcilb anul Ihe aspnrirnce in Ilte redminisl ra.l iun nf Ihnt I;yPo uf Icl,ishrt.iou (lntt is in thn 1Mp:u'Imrnl, :tntl uroro p:trtired:u~ly in I1Le 1?auQ und I)rul,. Ad- minislt'n/inn, il. tcould lu+ ttrefcr:rldt. . if t.6e. InLcliog uf r.it;:u'cl.lts ttcrr: tr"'IJulcJ under IlnrltuL. In fntI, fluwe hn.co a.r(!nwl Ilml ilt is notc tmerrtl. 11'e ka.cn dnnbteQ 11111( . ill t'ir.ct nf Ihe lecn.ktl ive kw;lnry, htd. 16:dl nondd Irncl itself besl tu 16n1.11'pt .'f rr;~ulalinn. lAIr. IA+nettc nf IeIurida. Ilnvn yan snbmillyd, ur ils Ihrr: nuy p:tr- lieuln.r piere of Iel;islatinn lu mruu:plislt Ihis Llml. you mennuuend ill ils enl.irt+l.y, or do ynn have I:urgunge Lhn.l. yuu rutdd suLmil. far Ilte ruuuui 1 t en)h, cuusidtertvt ion on t6e n me.udrnent. of I.Ito 6nz:u'duus lu bel ing? Mr. ISt.t.F:NtnxncN. We dn uut. 6otve rnnt'tlottM1 I:utgnal;n sir, bnlt tve slrnuld 6n glad, if yntt so desirr, tn snbmit Lmgunge ur tvorh .vitk ela/l, tch irhnrr r )un prefer. M r. Itcoacus uf Ieloridn. I ttnrdd likn to sti`c nI little tungll:rl;e of tt'kat, ynn sugtcrsl, btrauso m6M I nut raurvrnrd Itbntd is (6u1. if tcc le.l. Icun:l :utd I)rnfg rumee ill n.nrl at:uirrl±tdxtiu;!, :tnd Ihe.n Lhe. Fedrrl.l 91~:tde is still Ir1'iu;{ lo livtiorl, its jnrisdicl.iun, I+vtutl. to umke surr+ Llur.l. +ce make il eltmr u6o ist!ning l0 6e doinR Idne. Alr. P.:.LP;NR:xIM.N. I Ix+ltr.ve -:utJ currn+t. me, if 1 nm tctvng-hnt l 1>nlieve Ilrtit the ('hnirman of tlte 1e1'C hns inditatted Lhtit if tltis com- milteo ftnd tlw ('nngcess ill 16eir tvistlum should decicle lu rvl;nlatn hebeling umkr Ute Fetlernl Ilar;u':luus 5ubat.nures Istle.ling Acrl, Ihr. (':mnuistiinn tcnul:t nntt bc :liytosc:I In rrgul:do tL:rl nsl+erli of 16e mal~

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320 CIGARETTE LABELING AND ADVERTISING-1985 Dr. Monnx. Yes, sir. Mr. KoaxEGAr. Now, you also state on page 4 of your statement that lung cancer occurs much more frequently among men than women, and the disparity is gro.cing. By that I take it that you mean that the distance between the two, or the differential in the incidence of cancer between men and women is increasing each year. Dr. MoaAx. Yes, sir. Mr. KoasECar. Is there any scientific reason for that, or do yon have any idea as to why men are more susceptible to lung cancer than women? Dr. Molux. \To, I do not have, and I don't think ancbody knows. We know that men are more susceptible to a number o{ diseases, and this happens to be one of them. The average life expectancy of men is apprqximately 5 years less than for women. Mr. KoaNscaY. If you relate that to the percentage of men and the percentage of women who smoke, how does it stand, or what is the conlparison in that case? Dr. Monav. I do not have the figures. I really doli t know how manv people in the country or how many people in any given area of the country snoke-men or women. I think this is one of the hard things to evaluate in any of the statistical studies. I believe that miuly more people smoke than do not smoke, and this makes it hard to evaluate the figures. Mr. IioRNEGAr. Now, the work that you have done and shown us here in the area of lung cancer-did you, as a pathologist, perform tlle autopsies? 1)r. Dfoaaav. Yes, sir. \Fr.KonvEaaY. Did you make the slides? Dr. MORAN. I did not cut and stain the slides. That is done by technicians. But I have read all the slides-that is, I have looked at them personally under the microscope in all cases, selected the areas for photographs, and took the photographs. Mr. KoR:~ECAS. And who collected the histories? Dr. J[oaax. I collected the charts and reviewed the lustories given by the doctors, and in some of the cases-in the one cuse in particular Nchich I showed the slides of, the patient was still alive. This was a surgical specimen. And we had several doctors go up and check on the history there. Mr. KoaltEo..Y. You have personally done a considerable amount of work going into the process of the operation, the autopsy, the his- torv taking, and the reading of the slides . Dr. aSoRAx. Yes. All the pictures that I showed I went over the slidespe rsonally and reviewed them myself, and took the pictures. )Ir. Kon:cecaY. I don't know whether this is a fair question or not, Doctor. If it is not, vou just tell me so. The question is-would it be extremely difficult for a medical man, assuming even that he is an expert in this area, simply to take the slide, without having done any of the procedures before staining, and come to any accurate conclu- sions about what the slide showed, what were the results and what condition was depicted in the slide? Dr. '.%[oRac. 1Fell, I am not sure that I can answer that question. I would say it would depend on the circumstances, it would depend on ..-t,,. ~lo.,ted the slide4. and CI6ARETTE LABELING AND ADVERTISING-1965 321 Mr. IioRxEGAY. Put another way-would you be in a much better position to come to sonte accurate conclusions if you were exposed to the case and had knowledge of the case from the standpoint of the history of the individual involved, the autopsy, and all the way down the line? Dr. MORAN. Well, you would be in a better position, yes. But I would not. want to say that it is always possible to do it that way. I think iu a large study you have to rely-certainly for the histories-on somebotly else. The pathologist has tot anyhow. Mr. Ihom, EC..r. Now, you said that it is very easy to make a mistake in the appearance of some of the conditions of the lung-that is, to call t.hem precancerous. I I elieve that was the term that Dr. Auer- baeh, who was here yesterda.v, used-preeancerous lesions. Could one mi,take a benign condition for a precancerous lesion? Dr. \[on.aN. Yes; I think this is a very easy mistake to maket and it is one of the areas in nhi,h there is the greatest difference of opinion :mnong pathologists. AIr. honNra.:ar. As I gathrr from your statement here today, based upon your experimentation with animals paiticularly, that inliaLntion of smoke may change the appearance of the lung, but when that in- halation is remosed, then the change goes away. Dr. Afoa.ax. That. is correct; yes, sir. KnRNr:c..r. Anditresumesitsoriginalappearance. Mr. Dr. AIoR.IC. Yes, sir. \ir. KoRNEt:Ar. Noiv, I)r. Moran, are you familiar with and have you studied the report of the Advisory Committee to the Surgeon t7 eneral mt Stnoking a nd Health $ Dr. MORAN. Yes, sr, I have. Mr. IioRNII:ar. Now, based upon that report, Dr. Moran, in your opinion is there sufficient evidence to link cigarette smoking with lung cancer md to justify and warrant the labeling of every package of <igarettes with a warning which has been proposed by the Federal Trade Commission to the effect that cigarette smoking is dangerous to health, and may cause death from cancer or other diseases? Dr. MoRAN. Well, I think this is the problem that you gentlemen have to decide. I have given my opinion to the best of my ability, which is that it is not proven that smoking causes cancer of the lung, and other people have testified otherwise. And I think this is the problem that Congress has to decide. I really cannot say on that. I can 7ust pive my opinion. NLr, hoaxEOaY. Yes, sir; I understand. All I am asking for is your opinion-whether or not this report of the Advisory Committee of the Surgeon General on Smoking and Health is sufficient proof that smokin~~ignretta smoking causes caucer of the lung and that cignrette paccuges should he labeled. Dr. \fonex. N"o, sir ; I do not believe that. Mr. KoR.vEC1AY. Thank you very much. I am very grateful to you, Doctor, for coming here. Thank you, \Ir. Chairman. The CnamntAN. Mr. Satterfield? Mr. SxrrEnareLn. No questions. The Csamntnx. Mr. Farnsl~ey 9 Mr. FanxslsY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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324 CIGARETTE LABELING AND ADVERTISLVG-19B5 Mr. FARrsLer. In the social sciences some men talk of a cultural lag, and getting a vested interest-they might feel some people get a vested interest in theories and reports and so forth. But you re- assured me if there was a new committee to study this thing with a completely open mind that you do not feel a significant change of philosophy since the Surgeon General's people studied it? Dr. MORAN. I said I did not think (here was any additional infor- mation that might help any. Now, if yon choose an entirely new committee, I think it would depend upon the members you happened to choose what conclusion they might draw. But I do not think that is thc important thing that we need to do. I think we hai-e had enongh contmittees, and vi-hat. we ought to do is develop tlte research proa+rams and find ont what the facts are. Mr. F.+R.eLEY. I agree with that. I am not proposing another com- mittee. I tuu just trying to find out how valid the information before us is. Are there any other theories as to what causes cancer or lung cancer that we ImA e not mentioned? Dr. MORAN. Well, I mentioned in the text the possibility of atmos- plieric pollution. 11r. Fatosa.rr. Ilo.c- tto `-ou feel about that one? Dr. AIon.~~. I just do not know the answer. I think it is a good ,xrssibilih-. aome of the experimental work, work by Dr. Kotin and 1)r. Wisely, where they have combined viruses and oxidized gaso- line, and have nroducer lung cancers in animals, I think may be a substantial step along this direction. 1 certainly do not feel that smoke, industrial smoke, is any better for us than cigarette smoke. \[r. F.vesst.FV. How about automobile fumes? Dr. MORAN. Well, I just do not know. I think that is a possibility, but I do not know the answer. Mr. E.aRNsLBr. Any other theories running around loose in your profession as to what causes cattcer? Dr. JLoRAS. I think I have touched on all the important ones. Mr. FARNSLEr. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The CilAtaxAx. Doctor, T presmne your grave concern about this problem is that if what has been proposed in the so-called Surgeon General's report is taken with full faith and credit-I do not indicate that you are taking any position but what there is some substantial ctredibilitv in the report--but as I gather from what you have said, this is only one of the probable causes of cancer, and if we proceeded, or if this is carried out, that it will no doubt relax efforts to try to overcome the other causes which you feel exist. Am T correct in that? Dr. 'MoR.». I think you have expressed it very well. My feeling is that if everyone accepts the idea that cancer of the lung is caused by cigarette smoking, and that all we have to do is to put on a big campaign to stop smoking, that we will not make any further progress on what really causes cancer of the lung. And I think that research should be continued along all lines-further in- vestigation of the possibility that cigarette smoking does cause cancer nf the lune should be carried on. But also research into viral causes, CIGARETTE LABELING AND ADPERTISIhG-19fi5 325 I do not think we should stop at this point because of a committee report which says that there is an association. The CaatancAS. Well, now, would you disagree with this statement? "As a matter of fact," as laymen we understand this a little bit better than we do these highly technical problems that you have men- tioned here, "cigarette smoking is dangerous to health and may cause death from cancer and other diseases." I)r. MORAN. Well, I cannot see any objection to a statement that cigarette smoking may cause cancer of the lung. I think this is one of the things that we are investigatnlg as a possibility. I do not objeot to that statement. That is, that part of it. The CtL+nwIAN. Would it not'bo more factually stated-I atn ask- ing if td is would be correctly or not--that cigarette smoking, among other causes, is dangerous to health. What I have in mind, to see if I do understand it correctly-you are not sure that in a given case that the causation of that condition isdue to cigarette smoking or something else. Dr. MORAN. 'Phatt is corlect c yes sir. The CnntRVrnx. And do I un~erstand you correctly tbat, there is no way now, with the tesearch that you have, that you can tell whether it is caused from cigarette smoki ng or someth ing else. Dr. MORAN. 'i'hnt is correct i yes, sir. The C1IAInatna. I believe it was the Chaillnan of the Federal Ttude Commission who objected to using the language in a so-called warning that it may be dangerous to your health, and lie stuck with the firm conviction that cigarette smoking is dangerous to health. In other words, there is no question about the--tt is just a matter of fact, according to him. I am not trying to argue one way or the other on the thing myself. I am merely trying to make a record and get from you-you seem to have made such an outstanding contribution in this field, and I along with other people hope you are able to continue your very fine work and your research and experiment.ation, because I feel it would he very valuable down the road. And I hope whatever happens here, it does not in any way relax our efforts, through research, to get to the facts. I hope someday we may know. Have you ever discu.ssed this with the conmtittee of the American Medical Association that has given thought to this problem? Dr. Motux. No, sir, I have not. 'Phe CnA1BnIA:v. I think it would be an interestittg titinn if people suc]t as yourself did have a conference or a meeting for t1le purpose of discussing this whole matter. 1 must agree with you. I think we are trying to arrive at a point where we hope by passing a law or a rule down in tlle Federal Trade Commission we can do away with cancer of the lmlg-just by sayino that cigarettes are the cause of all of it.. I agree wtth you. I thinE probably cigarette smoking does cause some difficulties. That is my own suspicion, shall I say. That is about all I can depend on. That is the way I feel about it. Dr. MORAN. I did not quite hear what you said about what you ae eedwith me, sir. On what? The CHAIRMAN. I agree with you that I think some cigarette smoking in some cases does cause some difficulties.

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304 CIGARETTE LABELIIvG AND ADVERTISLNG-1985 The Caarn3cax. I wish you would give us the best information you have as to The total sums spent by the tobacco industry in advertising in 1964, how much of it went to broadcasting, what part for television and what part for radio, what part for newspapers and what percent- age of magazines, if you can get that information. Mr. Gn,.v. I will give you the best I can find on it, eir, or come up with. (The information referred to follows:) R. 7. REYNOCns Tos:kcco Co Winaton-Salem, N.C., dpril 29, 196.5. IIen. OREC I3LRRI9, G'ha.irman, House Committee on Interstate and Pbreipn Commerce, RapGuru Huuxe Office RuitaDng, Wusl.enqton, D.C, . Pv..~x SIa. Hanais: I have nuw bern able to assemble the published estimated fiKUres on advercising expenditures for companies in the cigarette industry for 1.WN. These are from figures published or prepared by Advertiying Age; Rora- baugh; Radio Advertising Bureau; and the Bureau of Advertiaing, American Newspaper Yublishers' Association. Television----------------------------------------------------- $184, 938,~1u0 Jlagazines----------------------------------------------------- 32,429 677 Farm papers-------------------------------------------------- - , 500 745 BuUUlemeuta__________________________________________________ , 3.1=,304 Radlo--------------------------------------------------------- 19,76n,000 Total_ 240,765,676 The figure given for expenditures in radio is for 9 months, this being the only one available at this time. So figures have been published as to estimated expenditures in newspapers. However, the total of such expenditures In 1963 was estimated at $17,414,827 by nhe Bureau of Advertising, American Newspaper Yublishers' ?.ssociation. On the 6asis of nur own ecpcrience, I would assume that the espenditnres in news- paper advertising for the industry were approsimately *he same in 1961 ns ia 1963. I think I should point nnt to you that the above figure include moneys spent for nther items than cigarettes, since most of the companies in the indnstry advertis.e tuher products. All good wishes. Sincerely, BOWMAN GRAY. The CBanutkx, Can you tel1l us whether or not in the broadcasting field that the greater part of the advertising was on spot announcc- ments 4 31r. GRSV, No, :ir. The larger costs are on the regularly schetluled shows. The CaalanN. Sponsored programs? iVII'_ Ga.ar. This is right, sir. The Cn_unxev. How can you give a warning on a radio program unless you just announce that smoking cigarettes is a health hazard and thev will kill you by cancer. Mr. GnaY. Are you asking lue to tell you how that might be done, sir? 'Che('He1RSidN. Yes. Mr. Gaar. I think I have made it pretty'clear I don't think it can he done or will be done. I think you would just have to quit. The CHacu_rca.. In other worde, if such restrictions were placed on the radio industry it would have virtually have the effect of drying up cigarette advcrtising on radio. CIGARETTE LABELING AND ADVERTISISG-i965 305 JIr. (',is.al-. Drcing up the participation or the use of that uzedium by a company such as ours. The Caeutxex. Thatt is what I said That is the way it appears to me. Nir. Farnslev ? 31r. Falt:cs[.EY. Mr. Chairman, let ma ask one more question. It is none of my business to tell you how to run your business but I cau't help having ideas. But it looks to me like you ought to test some market, I know it is a horrible thing to think about, to see what happens, and then talk about it, you are worried that if there was no advertlsing some guy who didn't have a brand couldn't start one. Ile might run around giving out samples. It looks to me as if vou are paying a terrible pnce to have the Surgeon Generall and Ar. Dixon and Mr_ Foote chasing you all around the Lnited States, $;3I0 million is a lot of money, that is ltt ls in my partaf the world. Mr. Giz_aY. y1r. Congressman-- .1fr.F..BNsr:ES. Youdon'thavetoanswerthat. Mr. GRAY. I take that as a statement, not as a question. Mr. FaaNsiEr. All right. That is a statement, and I quit. The CHAIRMAN What was the method they used in Canada4 Didn't they have some req6rement in Canada on cigarettes? Mr. Glur. I have heard of none, sir. The Caalauuv. You don't know of it. Any further questions? ;41r. Gray, on behalf of the committee let me thank you very much for your appearance auid your testimony. Mr. GRar. "Thank cou for y our courtesy, sir. The Cs.+IRnt+N. The Chair had hoped very much that this hearing could be concluded this week. I am not sure just how many more witnesses we have left to be heard but we are going to undertake a meeting tomorrow afternoon at 2 o'clock or at such tune after that as the schedule of the House willl permit. The committee has an executive session in the morning and, there- fore, will not be able to have a hearing in the tnorning. The committee will adjourn until tomorrow afternoon. ad eeday pfternoon~ April 1419653) p.m., adjourned to reconvene W

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tIr1111'rr'rP. LAllla.lNr ANU AI1CY.11'fINISG IOrG °I:i 21A CI/1,VI6:'f'I'I; 1AISt:LINII ANIr AU1'I+II'I'ININIi--14/ifi nud brlitvru Illnt, In Ihn Ii/;Ll of nr,-uunll:Ililn( kumt'Ird/;r, Ihr puu:lddrl is lu nr'vQ rJ' mrrtllllrnliuu lu ilu rrrlauu. 1. 'I'hr Amrri,mu plydirnl .\nnurinlion Ilurro uf IqIr/;alrs, Iu il pnliry vlnlr- Inrnl. uf .Ilnlr Inn:i, I'rrug1112rrl Ihr tlr'hdrq'irrll.v rlTovl%uf InlnlrrO n11 IIIIIIIIIII 11/nllll ond OItllrnlyd Ilml. rx lrualro ronrurcIl In urrrssury In rlro'ifp ils trnrf rrlnliuu- vklp In hr:dih. IlrrnUno uf Ihl., yuur rrforrucr r,mrlnllirr Lrllrrrs /L:d. Iht .\BIA Ilrrusc uf IIrL'gnlrn nuJ Ihtr Ilunnl uf' Pn:slrrs .hmOd Inl:r grral VI'ldr In lln ostnblivhwtol af Ihr rawvln'll yruglwo Inol In 6rlug rnn'Irtl unl Ly Iht Alnrrirnn Tlcriivnl A,.vnrinlirru 17dncolinn :md Itrsourrn Ruuud+rlirn: mulr'r Iht tllrrrliuu uf il cnnunillrr nf lirc ncitWisls, ihrcc of nhuw trrrr unnlht9:v of Iha SnrRrun llrnrrul'x rurnmlliw. 61r. 8lwnkor, iu tAe uplulun or puur rrhronrr rnnmdllrV. Iht nLuvr -Inlrmrnt rounlil ntev n tnnrisr nnrl nccnrnlc elnlrulrul'i of Pollcy 6y the AiIIA trilll rtfrrwlre lu lrrLnrru ns n Leallll hnznrtl. Ilwinimously aPlrrofr'tl tq Iltc Ilollrvr of drlt{;nlr.v,.lmlt 11k11. 77u; Alnrrirnn Ooflryln nl Clrc.vf 1'Al/xicim:x "1\'hcrenx the treiqht of wJrull0c etidturr tllstlnrtly'ludlrnlrn l.hnt clFltlri.le smuktnt; nnll t.hr inWtlntiou of othtr ntumsphrrir Irrillnlnuls lmcn nn Ilxsnclnlion rrInliuuJlip tcldrh \frnrlk'Iy fill$/fUHIN 11 rnn:;r an:l cRrrt cnnntvlinu tcilh rLranic Lronuhll.lu, pulwounlY rlnphywum, cur pulmuunlr, tvrrlinvncculnr rlisr:lsr, nutl rs ur.r uf I nc 1mIK, +uln '{1'hrrrnx Ikrrc is lnvrnnxhlg \C10r:III1P 1411I/11rP IIInC YII'tlFlF Ilrl/l ulhrr ngrntx nllll la lue, 11rOntrl mny IJny n rult lit Ihr t'I irrlu{{y if tmnrrr; 'ILtIrfurt, Lr 91 "/trsnp~nd,'1'hnt lhe litnrtl of Ilrgruls ul' Ihr Amrrlenn Uu1Ml;r of 1'hoat 1'lly- xirinuH nrgr nll nf Itv 1nrluLcra nnd Ihc unrlirnl profecvlun iu gtncl'nl to 19dtnail'y Ihrir t~dw'nllunul oumpalgn.llrerital tutrnrd Ihr publia irtf;vnrnt1 nnd thr yuulk lit parlarulnr rrintirte tn Ihe Wmll.h Ln'r.nrdu nr srnnking. * " 1Prum nt rrsolitl lun :1 Vlrrurrd by the hnm'rl of rrnrut s, .1 uue 2Y, 1962. 'L'ho A mcrirn n f]ollrpr: Ilnnlll. :1 xxnciat lrnl "H'knmus It preDouJermlre nf n(tieultlle tritlrure (tvilL srnnl. tvnudrrevillrnro) iudir::icv mi nn..rxintiuu rohllioushlP nud nuRFVVIs n e:ulwll rrlnl.luuslliV Lvltrrru rIgIImile smukluK:lud nome dintvrnen; nu0 '\\'Loren.v Ihn cignrtIle swukin{; hnLil aflrvl Is nctluirrtl now hy young Ilt'uVL tilnrr uut. luug htfurc Ihty rmnulrurt rullol;r, or trhllr Ihcy nre oLlrurllnF vul- 1rl;o : nnrl "\Vhtrrnx rullrRlw mld uWvrrnil.irs arc in n Imrlicnlnrly ndcnningtons lntnitlun to 1nWrrluke am Mfrrliro rtlurn1iui: nl t4Tort to sl.rp nud to yrrnut clRUrrllc nwul<in/; hT crrllegr ql.udeolu: tl'Irerrfnrr Lr it "Nrnohrd, 't'lud. ILc Amrrirnn Uu11rRe 11tallll Ascocftll.lon, rrco/lulzlu{f Iht nlxrvr-lunnl luntvl rrlnt.inrls111Pu IrrItwvu rit;nrrllr nwnkttrir notl vnwr dL olnun Irryn'a its ruilrr wrwLrrnhil, --bnlh Insl.ituliunul :nrd iutlividnnl-Lo ulltvnpt, iu whul- tror wnyv cunsitlurt.vl wout. vuilnLle, lo Ilisrntmlf;n ttlKnrel.le nmulting lLy rnllt4t nl.ndcnls:ultl fnturrnlmm~i." Adaplttl by Iha rnlulril or tlln nsRnrlnliuu. Apr1127, 1'ill?, Amcricnn. 6ofmol lfcalfk. Axsorinffun Titl Ivlrcl'IVC nf 111C P111111r.qJllCrtt Of Lu1R1W'n Illltl RIIIOkIItg by ontNfnntlilpj niIllCtrn in PnLllr nuJin ndvrrtising, with itv olwlous emmulatlonn rttimrding honlth nod Idp'nlenl lllnrss, mrtlunblrdly nRr.Ax tbe nltll.ndoxnud brhnvior of Itnpn:vnlounLic nrhoolilt;n ynntll. 7flc Almritnu Nrhnnl Ilrnllh Asvorlulinn, racogulelug the evldrnre linklnl; fuLnno tvilk luqmhmrl Iw'rfrrtmrtnce, hroilh uml lon/rrvit}: rouNldrrs ILo nxr of lobnrro ndrrrllsin/l lu I hn nlldtl.ir nri.l iug nud/ur ILy nlNttru of ronotru ns groxsly ndslr'nrllug vuld :1 Iliurll':urar lu lhc prnlur hrollll rthlrvlllnu of unr ymllll. 7'IN nsauclnllon rondtnul.v Ihr prurl Iw-nnd nr6rv nPLlrlrc lu rrfrnln fronl l6c tIhirnlly Intlrfrnellde nneof thrlr unun.. Apprnrrd Ip f.lrc t;orrrWUn cuaurll, nt nuumll mrvIInR. ICanens Plly, 111n., uu Nurclnbrr 10, 1!Ni3. Snricfl/ ui Rfnle ftirrclnr.a (nr ffrnllh, I'irrys(rvlf Flrfurallon, rnrd ltucrralbnl "lirxnfm:d, Thhl Lhn ttaelcly of Rt1Ut Dlrrv'lucu nf IlonlfA, I'kyrtirnl Pwlnt'nfiun nnd IlrvrvSltlun Ao trlt rrrold :IN tnCUnnl4inC ILP t'ollllllnry IIPIIIIL nnPLCitG nnd the NrLlir I Ir~aIIL Srrrlor In vuW.luue mnl iulrnOfy ILrlr r/I'url~ lo rJnrnlr ynnnK prvrplr nLuul. ainokiuh, ulilizlu/; ill niqrruprialr mrlhrrrls, inrlnrliua; ihc tvidr tlis~ IriLnlinn uP nullrrials; lu:q ho it furlhrr "f:rxuh'rJ,'1'Iwl Ilu Rrn'irly of Nlydr Ulrrrlurs nf Ihnll6, I'Ip'..irnl Rrhlrnliun, :ulrl Itrrl'rulluu gu uu I'rrurA ns I':Irrrriug nn lul.unleo pru~rnln of rdurnlbu lo nrrpruinl. conult luoidr tvilh .cuvh w-irvrllIic Iufnrm/d.lun na trlll br1P Itu'm nutirr- nlnntl Illn Hnrudui rIY'rrls of rignl'rlll nlnuklulf wld trlll lond Ilaul nx'up fl'ulll I hr nsr uf I ~rbncrrr." .Wuptrd nf Ihu 3.111 nnuuul mrcling uf tkt wnIrI3', 111nrr11 17, lllfl. .Imrrinul.l.v.vnrin/Iul! /or'1knrnrir R:t/'yrrp "frrxnp-rd.'1'6at. /ht AtrnTlrlul ,\ssrrtlul/olr for 9'hornrir Rnrgvrp Inkt ulllrinl ruguiauurr of Ikt lorrrnviug I1nzuNv nf brunrpul;rldc rurriuurnn, Imluuamry rmplpntvnu :roJ ILrir rrla14n1>rkip lurlinrrIlrsumkfoy;; nllrl "Rrxofrr'd, 1'IW I. unllr: uf I ldx nrUun Lr srllh In I6c Slu'1;1ull lit11r1'111 of Ihr 11.4. I'nblir Ilrnllh tirl'cire nnd Illo :\uoriclul Dletllt'nl AI:.'reInlfrm: Ilnd. Ilre urvdirol prnGu,~irru b, lufuruutl Ilrrunnh nPPnrPrlnlr publlcnllulw uud Ihul fhn Iny Pnblir 6t hlfurrwd Lltrunglr I hc 1117 PrrK.." Punsnl L}' llu Awrrlrnu At,enrinllon fur'1'hnrnrlc Snrtirry. Anril 111, 11n::1. Nucirry/ oJ 7'km'nrie Ntnpuml.. '9\'krrrnn nr'IrLllllc ttidem:e rJronkl,r ludlentrs n rtIntiuutelJp IwIttrou rl/ga- rollo vmoklui( ntlJ srm'h tlisortltrtr nn rUrmdr bnmckiliv, Pulwmvu'y t/aldp'nrnur. rrvrllrrraurWn r JL r:rni, nml r:mrrr rrf Ihr hun1: mnl "\1'norruu ILo lolik ot' Inix rtidrm-o 6ns urrnnrul:drd fr:nn Ihc oLsrrtnlinn rrf plly'.iri:uru.Ixrlalir.InR In pnlmouar) unll r:u~dinrn!rt'nlur dlnvusr: nud "R'hurrnn the octrtvhchnlug rritlrnre uf tht nlnruduR Inrrvnsc uf rignrrtlr- nulscrl dlwa+rn nurl dixablllly lu must ni9"lIVnt lo ILurnrIc sllrgtunv; lrull '.1\'Lrmnv Utc ulllrr 6runchre uf wudirfur nud Ih. pu6liv Inuk /o Ihornrir utvgrvrus for hmdrr:+hiP Ill tlrnliuti ailll thi:: Ynst Uuhlla nrnl/lr prnbir'm: 9'htrr~ fnrc be It. °Itr.vntr'rrf, '191nf( tlrt 8rrt'Itf,r Ilf ~l'11/rrnPlti 4111RI'trlin m9;n uil of Iln mtwbrra, rsprrlnlly Illc rltrllri ollirvrn, fn sllpixrrlt un erluenl.ltmnl rampaign Jln+'Itvl tu- t.'nrd Lbc pnbnc lu /rtnernl, nuA >unth in p:uLlcltlnr, rrInl In IIr /hr IIrn1111 Il:rz:lnlv uf wuok int; ;:uul br 11 furl hrr "ltrxrdrrd,'Phnt. n. r:rp}' nl' Inlu 1'r~sululiun In prrruuloil In Ihr Innr-r rd dclrnnlou rd Ihn Aluarlrtln Alydb'N Aunrv'.6rlluu m:d to Ihn Sur/rran l;rnrnd uf Ihr 11,4. 1'nLlir Ilrnllh Srrflrr." I'uswrd Iry SnrMly ~'f'1'llornrIr Surg:'uns, A:unrnry 2.1 27, I:1G:r. hurrPrnt IAVrrnl~rrf IOn U.N. I itirfic Ifrn11L Hcrrire Ino tcnil;llt rrf tt'Irltnrr is inrreuuluRly IrolutlnlC in onr dirrrlinn; Ihnt rsrrsnice slnoking Iu onr uf 1 hc rnuantlrc Glrinra hr lung cnnrtr." P'1`nrn I'nbllc Ilrnith ltrt.rris. \'ohmn 72, Nu. 1/, pn/;t 71,6, Srpltmbrr 1115,7. "'IYro wrlnill or rvlJrurv, of Irr.crul. luqdlralru r:nlukluC m: Ih. 1.1111. 11.1.1 r11- olugirnl fnrlnr In Iht iurrrnsrd incirhvrr of lung rnuro.r." l+lvm ILo .lnnru:tl tnf Lhc Am:rirml klwllvnl AxsorlnlWn-a ttr.kly Iu161icnliwr. l'rrluun I7I, pallrv t'lldl-14a7, Nl.'dl. ~ Ilu lhr bnsin nf pruluuntA ulwly nnrf t+vnlnnl.lon nf lnnny llnrs of tv,n- acrt;ing oriJonrr, thte 1lominlllmr mNuw lhr fnllutving SndlPntrd.: 'UiNVCU.c nuerklulf Is n hrnlih llnrnrd of nulGcirut 1nq.rr/nnre In llrc Ilrrilyd SInlrs tu tenrrnnt npproprlnto rtxnPdlnl nel.fol>." From "Slnnninf; nwl IltaQllr: ltrpurt of tlm AlFvlnnry Urnnmillrr tu thr SnrArv.n CtwrnJ of Ilra 1'ub11c Ilt'ulth SurritvI." ArctPtetl nrt Iho, alllrltll pnsltinn af Itn I'nlJ1c Iltnltll Strvler, 19111. Fnr'pcuu flrsu'rnl, I1.C, .A i>' A'orrv. "I. '1'hc trtr-lurrtOnhrk+ tPldturr lioking rll;nrrl/o nnwkiul; wilh Iun2 r:rurr'r, pulwnunry Jluroarrr, rnrdlucnwninr Jhrtlnrs. ttr.. tnn nu luul;rr 6r IiPUnrtl. '1'ht Bm'titon (lrurrnl, 11.4. Ah' Irurrr, Iwy Inkrn n Orlu slnnrl un Ihls Iww nwl hn. InnLlr~. lufnrrnrd Ihr tuAnrrv. taululnir:+ IOoIt gIfl rinnn/lra rv~r no Irrucr.r nr..r. "L. 'I'o nllum lhu frrr dl>,trlbW Inu uf clCnrrllrn lu nur havpllnlu nlul In Ilighl Imrrhr.v utlFgrnls lu om lnn"vouurl I.hal. Ilm Alr N'orrc MtdInll 41rt'Irt: In rtfm't, rvldcurr runduur5 vlgnrcItr smuklnF. 9'n 4141 rsu nt tu rrpndlnfc thc urrnrWInnug or uunry moAirld nrrtmnk trntnw tvnrkinR IuJel+'wlvntly uu n trurldtvidc Ansiu. :t. lloucrfurth, kltli ri{atnIlru .vlll uot At nrrrpltd for frvr rilr:tribnlluu In pnlitutu iu 11.4. All 1+nrrt hayrilnls, unr nill 16op br Plnr'rd in /lll;hl. Imu'h Ira Irn,nr :u: urdrr of It. L. Itrr6nnu:ur. mn.iur 4mnrrnl. II.S. \Ir N'orrr DItdi,.ul 11,ric; of tiI:rI7, SrPbmLrr 17, LIIr1.

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.rll) rlc.llui'rr4: Laur:Ll~tJ .\nu .Inll{1rftRlNr-IOfia Ibl 11'Lrnrvrr Ihr 1'mmJrianinu ~:hnll hncr rrn.unu In Lrlirl'r ILni vw.r nueh lu,rxou. Irnrlnrryhip. or nqynruiluu hm: LIru or L. Ic:hlr, unl' unlldr InrIhuq af ruwprllllnu or uul':Jr ur dlrrplh'r url r pr:lrliir iu runuorrrr. uuQ If If nhllll upprnr lu Ihr Uowml,u,dnu Ilmi n llrarrrrJhllt h,1' II lu revlrrt Ihrrravf would hu In Ihn (ulorr.vl ul'thrf publir, II r.hnll issm uud vr.rcr uIrou r.urh i,r.rsun. Pm'luorahlp, ur t'orpuPnlluu rl romPhlhJ nlntinl; II. rhurKra In Ihnt rraprrt uud rvndnluiug M uollrr- nf a hrnrIn/; upon n dny nnd n/ n pbnr Lhrrrln Ilxed nl. leai+l. ihlrly Ilnyn nfler fhe Arq'cicc nf r;nltl romplnild. '1'hr Vrrau. Pnrlnrrnhlp. r curpornllun tul complniuwl uf Alulll havr Ihr 1'lllhl: Iel nPP:I:1' nC Ihr plnre 111111 tlnu' cu lizr/1 nn/l vhuw nnrwr tvhy rul nrdtr nhl'ItlrJ uul. Irr vufrred by Ihc Cumull,¢Mlun rr'Ipllrlug uurh prrunu. luu'Inrrshllr, or rLriwrlnliuu lu rtncr aull llruiyl. frvnn Iltr vlrrlnllon of 11.0 lnw nn clulrgrd in snlll coulplnllul. Any prr.vun. Pnr{urrehlP, ur rurPur:r Iiuu uuy lunkr nppllrnll.,u, mul nPuu );uurl r:nlsl vhuwn uu:)' bn ullmvrJ b,l' /ho l!nnuulsnlou lu inlrrvrnr nuJ nplMnr h/ ,.niJ ProoloJing Ly rumrncl or lu Pcrnun. !1'kn Irnlhuuny III I:np .nrh PI'orrr/llug ,vlulll 6c rrtlnrrll In lrl'llhll; ulld Illyd In (hr ulllrn nf iho 1'nl:lltlluulou. If Illruu nn,ll hrlu9n Il:n ILo upinlnn Illnt. 111e mtflmll nf cauqu 1` /;1'llll'llwlon shnll hr nf prnhiLillvl liv Ihh Arf, It AlwIl umke nllrrqu.rt lu/wrllin(; Inrmhlrrhiittuhn11 1MInle il.u lin/lhll;s ns In Ih,.81r1o uwl xlu:ll Ir:auc nml l:IIIMt` In hP NPI1'MI au snrh IMIN/rll, p:u'Lucr.vhip. ul'torpurnl iuu nu ordlv rrvpllrinR snrh prr.wm. Pnrlrlnr.:h1pl ur cul'Im. r./li,m locrnur anll dr.vi.utI frnm uniu/; .cnrh nuIhnd nf rnnlpclil.Lm or surh nrt or prar'Ikr. Iiniif Lhc espirulinu uf Ilrr I(mc :IllulYrd fur Iilinlf n pplilinn fur rrrirw, If uu un141 p:Il/iuu hnn I,rrn Ilnl). /llrrl lcllhhl vnrh Iiuu : or . If n prllllim fnr rrvlrw hns blrn Illed wlihln mu'h Illnc Ihfq1 nnlll thr rorurd tu thr p hr rr,rrrlllug hn.e hrrn Illcll In n rulllq uf nplH`:Ila rf Ihc IIIrJIrd Nllllon, ;Inhcrrlunl'I,~r I 1ouunlsion noay nl wlv IIulo, qp.,u n'urh unIice awl I pru r ldni, n renrh Innuurr nv It shnll drrln pruprr, In,nlify nl' ,.rl. nslIr, Ifn a'hule or fn p:irf, aug rl' ,ul'Inr lllly urJrr nlnllC nr iS.urll ILV il. Imtlrr Ihls srrlL,n.^ Aflrr hhn rxpirvtlinuluf Ihr IiWc nllulvcll for Illinl~ n prllllnu fur rrrlrw, il' nu wlrh inlillun lula hrrn duiv Illed wIlhln uul'il linlr, IIn Cunmdm.iou run,r nf1 lluy Iflur, after nul Irc:uui upporlulllly fur lunl'(uK, rrnpru null nllor, nrullIfp, or arf. n.aillr, iu lcbulr or iu pnll. :my rrparf or urtlrr wndc ur Lasurll L)' itt undvr Ihia urrllun. lvhruovnr in IIIr opiWun nf /ha Uomlui~:don rnnlllli.rnv or Glrf or uf hllv hucr sn rh:ullfr,l nn In rrvpllrc nllrh n/'tinn ur If Ihr pehlle Iniorrul nhnll.cu r,,plin: 14miJr,f. 1rn:rrv:vu', 1'Lnl Ihc .'n{d pwxuu, Porlnrl^:IJp, nr rnrVul:dinm rollhiu slX 1y d:q'aafl/v'srrvirr uWnl Illm nr II f wrlll rrpurl. or orrlrr ,Idrnd uflrr nllrh a ruolun61ir. n6ini11 a rrlira Ihrrcaf In Ihr eppropfl:tlr ch't111f.'ruurll nf:Ipprnlu uf ILe Ilullwl Slull., in Ihc numnrr prnvkiulf in auhsrrl iuu (c) of Ihis.cl'rl ir.n. (rl Auy lurunu, pnrlurrNdp, or rol7mrldiun rrquirrq hy nn nrJrr or Ilq; ('nlumlasinn to rc:wr :InA desInt fruul nsiu, :1111' mulhrnl of cowlMLilion or nrt p:nrllco wny nbinin :L rv'v(rw uf surll urrirr in fhc rirenit' raurt or npprnis of Ihr Ilnllvd Jlnlls, wllllin any rIrrnllwhrrr /br :nrlhn/1 or ru:II1MIlllnn /ir Illr nrt or prsrll/'c In qur'lhnl lcn>a uurd nr lvhorr .anch IMcann, Inu'lurrrvhip, or cnrlmrn- Llou rrnlJ/a or vnrrir.v uu bnulnlsn, L)' liliut~ (n /hr runrl., (vllllln Alxty tlnrrar fr/11n Ihe tlnle uf Ihc srrvlrr of nnoh orrhr, :r yrrlllrn IMIillau pl'nylnl, Ihnt Ihr wIlh Iroll.miniltrd Itv Ihetrlrrknnf Illnidrnllrt lu Ihetlrnnllinil:sllnlflnntl,lhrrrlnprnl 1.111, /'ouunine(nu shnll fih' In Ihe ruurt 111" r rwar/l lu thr prnncrdhlNA, nA prnvidrd In Srrtluu _112 nf 'I'lllr ^_S, Ihlilyd Slaha ('.n/lr. Iilmn surh Olln:: nf Ihe prtiliun nud Irnnnrript Ihe rnllrt nhnJl lulvr lnrisJirlinn nf tlln Vrarrcllhl/t mul of Lhn qnruffoll detrrnrinr/l Ihrrriu eonvar:'tvllly tvilll /lu (Julnnll~aun nulll Ihr lilhlg I,f ihc rrrard null u)nll hnrn puq'rr Im mH kl: n n11 oulrr u tlnrrr n Olr udni; uiC,y- In, or ArIting nu1JO thr ordcr nf 111r C:nnud,.uinn, nnd eufnrelnF Ihr an , mr lu uMlIhc nestcut Ilmt Aneh order Iu nlllrtned, nnd to isvur r:nr'tl wrilv np nrr nnrlllnrp /n ifs inrladicM1iuu or aru urarsnnry lu Ile Jnd/:mrnl io prrvrnt iuLlry lo Illr Vnhlir or h",nuprfilars prndl~nlc iitc' Tho Ilnlliu>:.r nf fhr fulllllli"lurl ns iu Ihr ffplu, If dnppnrirll bp rridlnrc, vhull hr runrlurviva '1' Ihl 1sIont Il:nt Ih.r r/lrr or Ihe Oounnlseiou is ullirnlyd. 1 Lr rnllrl slulll tharrepuu Isunc ile nvrn nrdrr ronminnding oLeJirncn to LLr irrln.v nf sllrh rn'llrr uf Ihr Itnnllulvsioll. If rIlhrr pnl'ly chnll ~'I'blr ~elllr ncc .rnP .......... lyd br I'nlrlle Imlr 41 791, .lu-nnt _R. 11159 , 72 AInAGIh ]LI[. n7nA, nPVrnrrd nl!l. ' 111 n1 Ilnir °'. 1nIA, IIP3 Nhd. !rnl. S ARl ;1. n. drtl Im ,1e[ nl pLq^i, /!b/!L (fia Slarl. 1u76 rGmler,/ "rirrrdt ruim ol nPn,.:d." L, nf nPP"uln". S'rlnrll .I(n) f/tllr rlunnlliny' Aff r,f Ill'14 nr:n\. "RGti`, li(n). 1n nl If nn nrdrr Lv fhr IrrJnnJ'PrnJr n CrIrInnlun fa rrnrr nnd q+~ izl r brlnrr ILo,lntr of ihr nu,ymrq,l uf Iblv .\rl, na mnrndrvl I,r 141.~.4r1, r:hull brgln ,nlntr,lrlinar trln,=nmlinr.ntnf uJs "I'lu.Inllrrlon.,rJ,yn ('I(:,\ICbfl"PI1 LA114:1,1Nr! \N t) .\IH'DJiTIhIN(1--111/15 5 1 nlqlly to Ihr runrl fur Irtut lu nrJllucl nddillon:l] rvlllru/r, nlld vlnlll Ahlnr I,1 Ihr mli:dnrliau nf Ih,r,nv'1 Ill:d r:uth nJdltinrur:l.rirlrurr In uulllrlnl nutl Ihnl Ihrre wcl'n rrnnuflnhle tirolludu for Ihr fnlhrl'e It' ntlducr aueh evldrulv. lu Ihr prvrrrrll- hlg befolc Ike 1'umlulnnlun, Ihr ru11r1 nuly nrdrl Aurh u/idlllunnl relrlrnro In hr Inluu At-fnrr ihr /1'unudn..4m aud L, Ilr nJdnrrd uPnu Ihr Ilrnr1uC III .unrh muuwr nwl ulwn anch terms nnd cuulJltiun.+ rrv to the court mny srrw Druprr, '1'he C%IrInlulsAlon 1L1115' nmdlfy Itu IluUlugs Iln lo Ihc OaIv or nmkc nrrv IIu111nRM. Ly reur.olr uf Ihu ndI1111unN rvidrure so InkclL nnd It nhnll Illr tlnrh luudlllrtl or new IlnlliuKA, lvhirh, If nnplmrlud hy evldrnrr, nlulll hr ctrllrluslcr, Inld II, rrurnl. menllnl.(un, If nn7, fnr Ihe mndillenllou or w:l.llug nnide uf Ilx "rilamll nrdrr, wllh thc Itltnn nf nnah nJllilluunl /cldenrr. '/'he Judt(mnt lUld tIP'rree or Ille rowLvhnll br tlnnl, excrpt Ihal Ilu A:unr shlili hrauhJrv'1 ln rrvlrw b)' Ihr HuPrrme (1nnr1'. 111M.u rrri.Inr111'1, Ilu pruvWrrl 111 uts'tlon 16111 uf Ihr hlllrlnl flndr. fll) 11pun Ihc Illlun nf ihr rrrr,rd wllh It Ihr Jnflvlllrflnu nf Iho rmlrt nf npp'nln of lhe Ilniled Slntes tn nJllnn, rnfnrre, mudlf,v, ar snt nshle nrdrrM uf Ihe IJunl- n1lenloll shn11 bc exclnxlvr' (e) Snrh Iom-tv:JhlgM In (lie aonrf uf nPPrnln nhnll be glven Pnrwleuce over olher rusraa penllint; Ihcrcin, nud xhnll M1c In rrery lwq expedllrtl. No ortlcr nf the f;ouluJ.Miun ur Jndgmrnt nf rnnrlt lu eufurce the nnme Khnll llr nuywice re- lieve nr nL.ulve rnly iurnou, ImrlnrrshiP, or rnrpurnlinu frnm any Iinhllity nnder IhcAnl.ilrnsl Arlu. (f) (inrnplalnls, urdcru, nuJ nlher Prurruwa uf Ihr Uonlrrdusi:'n undrr thi:: vlellnn may Lc arrred hy nnyauo Ituly nnlhnrrd I,y Ihr Ilnuunl-l'nl, rlllur IIU hy delivering n rnpy Ihrrruf lo Iha fMrunu Ir, br nrrvrll. ur Iu n mrmhrr or Ilue pnrlurrshfp lu hr srrvotl. ur Ihr pr/v:iJrnl, nrorvlm'y or ulh,r rxrrlllh'u Idllrur urlt Oircvlur uf Illo r.urpurnli,m tn bc rrnctl; or (b) b\' Irm'in/; n rupy Ihrrrof at Ihe residourc or Pr(nrilmi nilirr ur Dlnrr or banturwA or snrll prrsun. plulurr. nhiP, nr arrl't'ral.ion7 or (e) rvudliut n rnp)' Ihertvd by rriIslrrrd ulail or hy rrrl.illrll m:171 uJdnwsr4 lo cuvh tum.uu, Pnrluerrhip, ur rurlvrruliuu nl Idu or i/n residrun' ar priutipal nllirr ur pinvr uf bu:durss. 'I'hrr crrllllyd rr(urn by inr Ilrruuu so vorvlue said runlPlninlL nrdrr, or ulhrr PrIM`Iss vrlliug furlh Ihe ninuuur or wllll nrrrirr shnll Irr prm'f uf Illr snwc, nnJ Ihc rclnrn IMrnt ullire rreelpt I'ur s:dd rralqdnilll. nrllr1', nr nlhrr prnrrus rn:lih:ll by rrni.arrrll unlil or I,p rrrlilirll nmil ua nfurrnuid .hall 6r prnuf or Iltr urrrirr nf Iilr (g) Au urdrr uf Ihr Ihnnnli.+iuu 1 irnvl null dr.einl allnll b/runl. ibl:d.. (I) Ilpl.u fllt expirallnu'rf Ihl /iulr :dln,trd P1' Illiu/; u P"IIIIln Or re- cllw, If un surh prli/iu(i hnv brvn Jnl)' Illrll wilhln snrll 16ur; bW /hr I!aln- miseiuu mny Ihrrrnfllr Inotlify Irl' .11 nsiAn its ordrr to thr ,,I'-el pruviJvd lu Ihr lusl ~u.nlenne ot Anbnrrl.ion ( Ir ) 1 or (2) Ilpl,u the rxlrirulinu nf Ihr limc nlluwrd for liliug n P^Iiliun fnt rcr- I.Innlri, If Ihr orlllr nf ihte Cnuunisniun knn Lrrn :dilrmwl. or Ihc IM'litiuu for revirw IliumNnwl by Ilrc rlrouil ` runrl nf nPPI'nls, uull ua p,till.,u fur 'rr- I lunu'I hus brrtn /lnly flled 7 nr (a) 11puu fhc dl'ninl uf it lnlilinu fur rrrlinrnrl, If Ihr nrarr'd Ihr Ilmrl- Inlv.uiau hnu brrn nflinnrll or thr prltliau f,v r,viow dl.minsrd hy Iho rir,niln r runrt or nVPrWA; or (4) Iipun ihr I'xplrldinn of thirty Ihly, frrml Iho dnlr' uf i..uant'o nf thr mnwlnlc nf Ihr Snprtulc Unurf, if sa'111'/nrl. IlirrolM Illnt Ih(- urdvr or /hr flmnrninchnl be nlllrnlrtl or the PI'lll lnu h r^rilw Jinnll.vcll. (h) 11' lhc Sltl'I'I>Ill/' CI'nrt rlirects I hnt Ihc ul'd r nf I ha 1lmnullnslon hr nladtllyd or rslt nshle, Ihr urdrr nf Lhr ttlnnmiculuu r'rndrrrd in :Irrnrdauro lcilh ihe mau- dnle nf thc Slqrrclnc lLrlrft uhnll hrlnnlr Ilunl npnll lhe expirnliou of /ldrl,v dayn flvrn f.he l.ilne It lvns rrnderrll, nnlrsM wilhlu snrh lhh'Ly d:qw rilhcr Vnrl.y hlrs Inutllnled Prorcr'Afuqe to lurve xI1C11 ordcr turrreterl lu nrenrd wllh Lhr umudlde, irl n'hirh evrnf. Ihr nrder nf Illr l!utnmls.+lnn Wndl brcolne Ilnnl when nn rurrrclell. (1) 11' Ihe ordrr uf fhr flunullissiulr Iw wlulilird nr srf :Isldn cy Ihl rirrnil' rfwrL "r npprnle, :Ind if (L) Iho limr ullulrrll for Iliinlt it P,liliau 0'r /'rr'liorari hns expired nud uu Auch IM'lllinu hnn hrrn Ifllly Iwd, ul' /91 Ihr VI'lili"u fur rcrllm'ori hns bPrli rlrnird, nl' (3) ihr tleriuinu Id Ihc rlall't hnv brlu :dllruuvl hy rhe Snpr:ulo Cnnrt, Ihrn ihe order or Ihr Il/noml.nWu renrlrrrJ hl nreurdnure tl'ith Ihr numJal.o or Lhc ril'volt" ruurl, of 11PIMnl% Mhall Incumr linnl on IIIo "1'll, nim n xr/lun ana nlso n nrmir/i Ly 1'WJir falv ARTnI f ce rnoluole :1. Mnprnl. "],III. xncllan lcnu amendnl bv I'nLllc Inlw hn-GIIT. Xlitlr (JOnF., ILn.IU!/!In, nPlrrnvrd ]unM 11, 1!11111 (71 Slnl. 2001. -~. "IIrrllll ,v,llrL of rlnrrrll.a" l,nrlnrll In rnll rL nr el'1'fnln.' ACIn nf .Ilrllr 11148, 1119 ":::I. 11!11 ;{:P2), nlld Muy 2 1, 19 111, I1Ct Slnl-1/196

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260 ('nL1Rli'1"PP: 1.111Y;IdN1I ANn :1U\b;li'I'ItiINf7--19nfi rwWu:rrl; t.tur.!.!r.:r, Avu Aucr,lrrlsln/: Inn;, 210 Atr.(;nlrr!:n. AVilllhc.go.nl.lew:nl,yicld fer:tquesl.irnl3 L wu a hnid I rlidn'It mldenlaud whnl. you auid n nliuldc ngo. 1)id you tiuy thaG you hnd scA.n whr,ru cancer hnd bren prudueed by painl.ing I ho hrr mch inl tnbes 9 llr. Aoltsnnott. lh. Roclcey lutd pniutr~d tohnccn tat-on tlln Lreeheo- hront'l,inl Irrre and 1Lnd prodnend ml inlillrolinw t.nncor of Lhu lnng. nlr.('Arcrmt. Tfo ntintvAlitu'ilhlrlbaccolnr,yonr:ny4 Ilt. Auratnnnu. av. 1 do uof. Inlmv ony umro of ILo details. T du un6 huott' 4hem nt. Ihis time. Bul. L nm stne Ln coukl ptoduco this eviQroro Icithont% any dillicnlty. Nfr. l',ttcrtst. This conkl hnvn Ixt'n pnxlucrd by tuttny, ntuuy olher nutlrrials, n'ilhu!dt duubt, vinco Illit h,ls 6rrlt prudwa,d on /llo liltin nf nuimnk esperilnenlally, isl.hnl:nntso3 Dlt .\untmnau. 110 toruduced Ilhoso'hy pniu(in{C l.he.bronehisl unlcosa. of this nniroxl. Alr. (',tnrr:n. I mldcrtitund Ihnl_ 1Ld1 it, is nnl, jnst ono n{;enl--ynu wuukl nol, limit th!d. In 010 cansntirc nl;ent of jnst. ono thing. Dr. :Aut;nn.tcn. L do nollututrw a'h:tlilie ill I6o tobacco srooko that cnuses it,. AIl I know is what, Lappnned tchen Ita pninted the animnls tv i I.h I Ilis sa Lstancc. Al r. CAnerac. \YcII, I;Inl =or!y 1 hltt. }has not.6con published. 1 nnultl likn lo vm Ihnt Wrilten np, ls'cnnso ail of tLn Of nt tho prosnnt litue, so fur :rs I can find unt. nr rentl, is tn tLn et~'Irect.[x t-hnt. lwlg rnnrea- Lns unvrr IKron prudnced cxpetilnrnt:llly by inhnlnA.iou of tobact'u sluolcn. I fottr.ror, il. 1!ns ltcr~.n produrcd hy iuhalnl.inn, ns I lohl yon, nf uronizal rrnsollllP. ~ Th;utlc you, sir. '1'hr. /',t1 tneeetN. 11Lr. Gillignn. . Tlr.till.cwnN. Noqurstious. 'I'hc Cnnnlrrnx. Alr. F:unsley. Afr. Fnnvsl,ler. I)ovIur, Lnt'c pnn xn1' ligntcs as to tthnt Iw,rccntnf :wlrtpnicsc+mduolo!I in yonrhosllital huvr'.6ocn on smnknlre'E llr. :lurmr.ton. 1 do not. Ihlotv thn cMnrt nlnldsn'. ISnI. trn nrn n Vul trans' Atlu!inisl r:el inn hor+pitnl :n!d :rv yon probahly know om hn.vn n lar{le nurn6r.r--hn.vo hnd n larger 11111111,14 uf ;:wnlcm's in this l;ronp. Alr. FAurvscni-. 1\ro lha.eo benu 1 nlcl n Iplnrlnr of a million pnopto died frolu eil;are.llo smnkinrr ;t yrnr, aud Ilio Illiu}{s 16:tt.:!.re re.cuminnndvd tlutt. tco do, qut'.~nrniuon in ndrarl.ising , IuiKhlrcducr grminnlly tlto s.Jes of niRntrIlos, nlll1ouhh it. might wilto uuL ndvertdsin-w I!nd it migrht not. I tried In get itclonr ns lo trh:!I. tec !u'a Il.ying to rlrr--cl;uup out ndvcrl i;inh or slnmp uut. ci~,.urelte.e. I lnlmv you :um nut tryluk lu ollro onl. ndcnt't-isiuf.. 1`ou !u'n linrrific.l by t.La Ihin{;s ynu hncn ~oo.u iu Finlg~ nf Imo iln th:t6 su!ulcn. 1)u you hnvn :tny snt[i_'tsl innp, :ts I o si ~uu'I hiu;!~ r15e. I1Int. en!dd he duno orslLmdd hoilonr.tlLwdIhislcrriLle ILint'! lh. Aur.wc.tcn. ( h!o of ILn IhiurS ILnI. I 1ltiulc is Ircmeurluu,ly im- ~)orlunl. is In edur'uln ILe pr,uploe un ttLall i51nd<ing llluce. Ilnw you do a:mtl how you!w a rrtumullrv du it. I uul ill nn pnk!1!nn to knott. Alr. RAllxclaav. '1'hn.nlc ,yon '1'ha Cu.nnlnrnx. Alr. C;tlla.cay. VIr. t'n1,1,ntYnx. No qnrslionti. 'I'6al'u.Nn!nlnx. I)oyou hn.Yn:! qnr~lio!yAlr. Kormera}'? Alr. Iio1tN!cnAY. l"rs, Alr. ('hairtnun. Aluy I nslc n runplr. nf qnrst.ion.l Ih'. Anorbnch, hote cln you nvcuntlt for the fnct, that Lhn ioci!lencu of Ituhr c;ulrcr is higher ill lunhw tritn s,nokr Ihnn ill frtnalo~? I lr. :\uoantnru. '1'hls has brco eo, n.nd tchrthcr il, ttill coul inut In ho tcill h!1 rn tn hc cron ill nnnthor (1reodo. 11r. KnuNr.r..tv. I Intv I Iu ) au arrumd, fnr it ? Ih. ilur:nn.tr,n. '1htrn nro t.tro Irarsihilil.irs: (hlo, Ihnl up uulil Ihis 'irriral of limr- it. ~cill jnsl. Inlu' arumtd r~t) l'1911'3 OI' Illbl'1`~ IM.fOlY1 IIN'. Imy, rnnrr.r Jcvrlol/s__it. tcns nott very fnshiuunble In clnulcr, fur n'ruurn Iu ~mnkr, nbont, S(1 ye»rs aro, so l.hnt. Ihey slat'Irrl In wuokc ktlor ill lifoI ti':r.mdl)', M-oulcn rlirl uul. inh:tlo nx drrtdy ur ux ulnl6 a, tnon qirl. Now, whrlhrr_..ar trill hnto lu teail nntc 1'nr n mauhnr nf ernl'S trhrn tho tvomrn smokorti r:drL uli tcilh Lho mon s!nnkrrs am1 >ro hl:tr I.hut hnld.v. Alr. IiunNlcn\r. '1'hrrrv i!; nLai ;1 biulop;irnl Jillvnnn~ ill 111,11 :uul wumnu 11!nlL mmd.1 nrrnunll fnl' Ihe fnrl ? . l)r. Aur',t:aeCll. I 6nvo srn nnnn nncdomirnIhIhnl I cmdd AO. KonNr:n.nY. Ilnt, horv nhutd. jripev stnnknrs? R'rrr :ulc of Iho lunqs I h:ll. yon 6nro "an!uinrvl I Imrr.e.ll,rut' or pipn suwkcrs! Ilr. Aut.:rn.tc!I. I h:tve, Alr. Kurnt{;ny, I.tAn t~ory iuirrr,lin!" r6:uis :!.lonq 1 hosv linvs. 1)Itrim anc nf Llro vl mlirs. _ 1 hw.re ttrrr IS qul'st iuos tce tt'nnlnd to Nlstmr. Thn rrv!eon tce tr!ullerl lu an~tcor il i5 t6:d uutnl. lawllln nslc n.s--~ \yrll. Is il: hwrwful !u r.urdk,.:r ri;t:ir ~,r Ia It brllor lo .m.d- :r :u Ih, n tltffcrcur~,ay 1Voll, nll of I.licsr. slides xerr iulrrutinRlrJ, nn!1 Ihrre wore cr'rlnin qutesl.ious lo IHe nn.ercrrod. AII nf Ihe sliJrs hnd a nrtc uuutber pu6 ou, n.lt4l Ihcy meree un;inlired 1 la wcll over a7,fN11/. In Ihis group tcnnj sovnrnl compari.sutih. (luo no5 vmopurilug nonsmoker, to riRnr smolc- rrs nnd r.ig:ur.tle sunkcrs. P:volyLhinR Ivns htId ccrn, licid simil:u', r.srept. Ihc suwking h:drils. In n16rr ttords, if il tcrn n^'~ rrar nlll sc6ile mun Who Iivrd ilt A16auy nnll wurkrJ n,-; n rLvrlc, hr'e xco~ t-r,u!Ir.nrrl tciIlt a:SN yo:tr-nld Mhilc wun telLo tcnrlcrd :In n. rlrrl: in ~Vh:tul'. So LhnL cvery'thing tcas hclrl !Is occu ns couhl br. Nh:ril is ilrlerrslin{C is Lhis:'1'he green bnr rullrrsrnts Ihc unnsnmkcr. '1'ho yullow bnr trpnt.vnls t11n cil;tu smoktr. 'I'llr ornup;e bnr tcPrc'- snuts t.ho cigarotln sulolcer. lf thildc you will ngrre with tno tlmt, iu nll enle,Goric.c Ihe nonswolcer shotts I ho jenstt munlier of chan fies. 1Vhtd. is nslrcunly iulcrrsl.iul; is tlmt ill Ilto cclls Ihnl. go uu In fnrnl lon;{ canoer, tbe prcenucnrous collc, t.6ero is nnmll less iu 16o cig;tr hnlokrr Lh:ut I6ere is ill LI!c ci t .,urnlto smolcet--nnd rt'rn tooro dptmati- na Ily is 1-h:tt Ihu precanrerous Icsions nro ntnch less in I ho oignr slnoker tlnrn in pw cig:uctto stnoker. AL, kioR tho s:uuo wmparison butmcen the umtGtaokerl n pipo smokur nnd it cignrr,l.to smokrl, wtl lind nn ovem moro inlerestlug coutrnst in ILat 16nrn aro tuan}' less ch:mfir.v ill tlno pipo cmokcr nnd wo lind uo Ivornunmnna Icrions ill Iho ptpn stnoket'. So Iltatt tra tind 6hnt. (1!n chuqqns ill Illo Iraclteohronrhinl Lreo nro muclt Ir in t.il;or nnd pillo lanoko.rs

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318 CIGARETTE LABELi1CG AND ADVERTISINCr-I965 think it required a lot of taxpayers' money to find this out. I could have told them thisbefore they went to all this trouble. Now, in No. 4 they say smoking appears to be not one behavior, but a range of psychologtcally diverse behaviors, each of which may be induced ba~ a different combination of factors and may serve different needs. Therefore, no single explanation can suffice. Then, on Vo. 6 they say : There Is suggested evidence that early smoking may be linked with [;elf-esteem slid status needs, although the nature of this linkage is open to different iuter- pretatlons. Wcll, now, that was a profound finding if I ever heard one- But yett this same group of peo,)le came in, after all of these staternents-and they are all through the book. Ilere isa;iotherone: Increa-ed uiottality ol smokers from cirrhois of the liver has been shown in t[te 7;roslM+~tive studies. The data are not sufficient to suplort a direct or causal association. \ow, those kind of statements are all through here. Yet tbosc same people came in here and stated as a definite, fixed conclusion, many of them, that every person who smokes cigarettes is atlect ing his health. `Chu would be your opinion on it, sir? Dr. \foR_ N. Well, I can only say that I do not agree with those who lla\'e, reI orted that it is proven, that smoking causes cancer of the lung. I disagree with this viewpoint. I, too, have observed througli the text, through the body of the report, that there are many qualifying statements in it, snch as "may be;' "presumably:' "presumptive" and that sort of thing, which do not appear in the conclusions which have been pret.ty widely pub- licized. `'; hile I think in general the report. is a very fair one, I have no- ticed that it did not include those qualifying statements in the con- clusions. And I think this is one thing about the report that I would disagree with. Mr. Roosas of Texas. Now, Doctor, in some of the conclusions they say they have testified here that there is a definite connection between emphysema and smoking. \ ow, the conclusion stated in this booklet, on page 3092, says : A relationship ex3sts between pulmonary emphysema and cigarette smoking, but it bas not been established that the relationship ie causal. ho.v, wh at does that mean? Dr. 1foRAx. Well, I think it just means that a certain number of people have emphysema, and a certain number of people smoke, and the statistics do not show clearly whether this is just coincidence of an occurrence of emphysema in people who smoke, who may have some- thing else which is really causing the emphysema or whether the cig- arette smoking presumably causes it. In other words, they just don't know. :\fr. Roceas of Texas. Isn't it a fact, Doctor, that if one man had emphysema and also smoked, there would be a relationship because all of the activities are occurring in one body, although there might not he lnv association at allbetweenthetno? CIGARETTE LABELING AND ADVERTISIXG-1965 319 Dr. \Ionas, I think that is correct; yes, sir, Air. RooLRs of Texas. So actually the finding that they have said there is a relationship means nothing, insofar as the issue involved here is concerned. Dr.1lfGSas. I would agree with that; yes,sir. Air. RoGEIts of Texas. I think that is all the questions I have. Air. Younger ? BIl.Torssnt. Thankyou. I think. Doctor, youhave made a very good contribution. Buta for a layman, it onlr adds confusion and compounds it, because we have very good doctors come in vcilh reports that they are very positive that unoking tloes cause lung cmicer-and we have a number of other tloctors t~-ho testify as you do, from the wealth of their experience. This puts ns in a bad posit ion of trying to reach a decision-when the experts all disagree. That is one of the most confusing things that we ]tave. And yet the Federal Trade Commission just took one side of the question. You clidn't testify before the Federal Trade Commission, did you? Dr.lfon_.x. \o,srr. Mr. Torxcer.. Do you know anything about the hearings they held? Dr.71IoRAx. \o,I do not, sir. Air. TorscER. You don't know whether they were generally adcer- tised, or-the doctors were notified so they coultl test ify ? Dr.111onAN. I don't know a thing about it. Air. YorxaER. Thank you very much. llr. RonEas of Texas. 11Ir. Kornegay? DIr. hoR.vEGAY. Thank you very much. First I want, to thank you, Doctor, for coming before the committee with your great knowledge of the subject matter. It is very helpful to bave this information and the benefit of your many and long years of experience. At the risk of showing the extent of my ignorance, I]tave two or three questions. Dr. Moran, you testified that there is a cancerous cell called the squamous cell, or squamous carcinoma, or whatever you term it, that is found in the lung-is that correct, sir? Dr. MoRAw. Yes, sir. Air. KoRxEG-aY. Is that the most common type of carcinoma found in the lung ? Dr. MoRAV. Yes, I think squamous cell cancer would be the most common type. Air. KoRNEGAY. Well, now tell the committee whether or not that same type of carcinoma or cancer is found in other areas of the body. Dr. hSoRAx. Yes, it is very commonly found in many other areas. itt is part icularly- bfr. KoRxEOAY. Are these areas such that they could have no possible relationship between that area and cigarette smoking ? Dr. MoRAx. They are areas that certainly could have no possible exposure to cigarette smoking, the most commou being cancer of the cervix of the uterus in women. 111r. KouvEO.nY. This is the. same type of cancer that is most com- mon in the lungs, is that correct?

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`Z.Ig CIf7An6~1"19V LAIIIn.INli ANn .V11'411rf1NINti-Inn.5 Alr. 1Cnlnwrr,AY. Nolv, in Illn /onrlnsinn nf,yonr slntmnent-yon say thnl. yon hupc-.-You pa.til.ion Iltis rouuuillrc nol lo opprore luly Iw;is- lntiuu I.hntI uill prevcnt.lltn Rrdernl'1'rudo Conmtissiou Irum t:uI,yie,~, ont ils n/Tn'med, or trn/lirmnd inleW iue of retlniring hcalth n'nrn- in~.,sou riqnrellnndvertising. All. Iroare. Ycs,sir. Tlr. I~onNnne~- (rondiul;~: A rouclusluu Ihc N'rUernl '1'rmlc Commistilou renehed after the most intenxive sttul.v. nnJ nfler huhling pu61c henriugs. mld yon, of cmnwn, lue nwnro of ILe, furt Ihnt. 16e Fedornl Trnde Cnm- missinn hcld only 3 days nf public 6enriu's oll tltis question, is that rihht., sir? Mr. Foo'rr:. I snid most inlensire slndy. Their record sLmws-- Afr. KonNl=.anY. Shortly after tLosn henrin.~rs, within a nmtter of 2 to :i moulLs, I would say, at Ihe most, ILry cnme rnd-, wit.6 thcir I.rndo rules. Yuu Nay tltnt tllntt tcas i.ime lo givo Illis mnlter tlle most intc»sive shldy? Air. Fom'le. Well, tlmt is whnt Air. 1)ixon says, nnd I am inclined to believe him, sir. lFfr. IConxo:r.nr. 1170,11, now, Afr. I'toh.ers ltns inlrodered n Lill here- Ito sperilies It 1nLnl Ilme to Ilre plnced on nll pnalcnges of eignrettrs, enrtnns of rignrettes, IhinGs of that sorl, tlilirh says, "Cantinn, eignr- ello sulukiug may lie hnrnlvloas to,your Itrnllh." And Ihen lie fiors on nvcr in sr.c.l iuu Hof ILisLill nud sny's: Anp ryr~on rvhu vinl:d.'.v n prur6siuu uf Ildu .\r/. AhWI lir nuilly nf n udv- .lrn,rnu~~rm nml wlwll un .¢mvloliun Il~rrrnf Gr t:nLJrvl lu u Ilur nf nul. mure Innn *Ie,IN10. Nolv, I Im T'IYJ, f ho mlly power 16ey Lnre In rnntrol or In rnforre nn odirI, uf Ihnt hwdy is aL:ll wn r;tll xn nnle.r In rcuse und desisl. '1'hldt is nu urllor Il~nl says yon Ilnvo ,xol In slnll 1cLnl( yon nre doinp,. Aud if 16ny rnuliunu lu do it, I.hn Tedm'n.l 'I'nnb. Coumtissiml hns nn eu- IlLorily, os I uedarsl:unl il, to dn :uIP16iN!,.dlLCr Ilmu lo go in/n 1110 eoluis, tu enfnrce I he ce:lse-lutd-Ilesisl~ordvr nhieL they Lere.tofore, ren- dered in ILe ensn. Noo', wonlde'tt it appear to lro qnicl<er, ulore elTeetire, nnd rerininly far morn dladlv to lake Afr. Itn~,ot's' npproorh In tllo proLlnnl Ilnm it wonkl t 6e P'edernl'1'rndn (Tommission's nppronch 4 AiL. Fonrr. Well, A'fr. KorneCs,y, as I nnd A1r. Rnwerc' Lill, it pro- vents 16o Federal 'I'rnde Comnnl*cion frnm doin~ nnyt.hing nboul, nd- verlisirof,da+sit.not,sir? Andlha.l---- Afr-Ko¢NIm.nY. I I6inlcildoes Ihnl.. Alr_ Foo're Nell. wc woakl Ial.liur-- Alr. IConNr:nAT. 1Ve nrn tnllcing nhuullnUrliul!' ritrht nrvtv. Air. Pno-ye. lVn tivonld rnther Congresv .voulrl lntndlo Iho tc1tole t.L i nla', sure. Afr. IConxennr. 'I'llnn lrt ns talla nLmd. lnhelinfr llerr. l.nt, me hnve your eien's ml Afr.Rnrrrrs' bill. wi16 rcl'nrrnretnlul,rlin~. Afr. Fnrrre. Onr vie}v is, Alr. Fut'nepu,y, sir, Ilntl. Ilto ;tQvm'lising mnl tcr so fnr overshedon's- Air. KouNlwnv. 1'nn Le.rn somr. Ihouldds nn Is6rlin{r, tlon't. ynn? Afr Tun'rnt lyn ))ill be t'rrvhnlql~In err n lahrl ;n,mt fhe paelul,rc; CICAnIS9"PN I.AIIb:LINC AN11 AnyV]R'riRINn--Ien5 2.,1J Tlr. KooN/:unr. 1 ussmnu fruw yum'slnicment you didn't lrnnl to put a l:d rr.l un 1 ho pnclalro. Alr. h.wrna. Yes,sir; )rndo. Afr. l:uoxl:nnv. R'Irnt do you thinlt nbrmt Illa provisions of Air. RtNners' Lill, trhir'll a'ould mnl.r, it. np to a$III,INItI lino for nn,youe not to put it 6Jre1 on u pnrLni;e? A1 r. Fnn're. I t ser.e Is 1 dcc n. good rrYul nl ion 10 luo. All'. I\unN Ef:Ar. I n 1111 l(1' Wo191s, 111e I!"C(7 cvulot. fino nnyLn.ly. '1'Ley cnnnot putt anybody in jait. Air. 1?on'I:. )'ou Iteow, mnyhe T mm absolntely not n very good lis- tnner. I wlderslood from 11ie leslimony lnst ~ceelc Illat tho F7'C was going to handle Ille ndvortisioh p:uL, aud lhat llte l:llnlin~ ~rns hoing to lLn lland Icd slutc, ot Lm trny. Alr. ICnnxr:a.tv. '1'6ey tc:mt Ito Inuldlo Illo whole (llinl!, I nssnm yon of tLnt. Air. [roort:. TVell, )ln tvoeld rnlLer Cont;ress would hnndle Iho whole tltin.,;. AIr.It;nnnr.onr. Yon wnnld rnlhrrCon,11,l'essWmdd? Air. Forcrm 1'lm .rLolo 6asiness, yes. l.nbelinh and ndlerlising. I Illnugld. Ihis wns clenr Lefo. Alr. I:unNlmAy. So anl 1 to nnderstnnrl lllnt, you feel Ihnt. itt ou,gLtt to ba also n la6el n nd in ndrerl iainp{? Afr. Folrrrs. Ycs,sir. Tlr. Ii.mNer.>y. And in Ih:d. nt!nrll 1'nn Ilisnl,rrn lrit6 Afr. ltn~~rv lLill? Afr. Tnyrr;. Yrs, sir; nn Ilo. Tfr. I(nnxr:ntc. Ilid :n; fnr :r: Iluo 1u6rlin;l ptnil iv rnnrrrnrd, \un fnol like thnt wonld Le », selliv.ienl, linn to nnfotcr the provisions of Ilte nct? Afr. N.wrr.. }'oe lanow, Alr. Knl'neg,nay, I nel nnl rxlrn=ell lo Ihis nrrn_ I antdd Ihinl< ILnI if n l:roIcorn Imsr.l LlI'onqrr=,:. 16e lobnrro prnple nllr:ns follnw Ihe l:nr vrl.y vlnsrlr. I don't. ILink t6rrn leoulil Ln nuy grenl Irvmhlr, icilh lam rnfurrrluonl. Rn/. I Iltinlt I61d i5:1 good In'nrisinn. Olu' uhjrclion to Tlr. It.ymrs' bill, respertfnlly, wls ils aXrlnsinn of adver/isintr, nnrl nlso tLn Nlrorllil,n of Illo lahel dorsn'L t:evlu qni/o sl ron_o rnnugh to os. 11fr. 1CunxFaA.'. l'mt mmlld liltr-- Alr. TINrrR. "Is hazlu'dons° ralhrr I,.:m "mny Le.ltnzalydnus." Af r. Ko¢NU:nnc. ISnt dnli t vnu :I)!rwv, as u prnrl irol w:W el, nnd ns n prnrJ.icnl nlan, I Ilnl it rconld lie ftrl' morr expr/lll ions in r:u'ryin~ ont illn pnlifirs )cLil,6 yoa n¢pourm In 1Lnvo Ihr ouf.~rrutrld of :utr I:tn or rrtrnlnl ion in ILr romis, rn l her 16;ut in cumo mhuini:d rnl i te a~rnry? Af r. Fomr:. 1'rs, sir. . . Afr. FrneNf:o:~r. '1'hank )'on crly nmcL,A1r. Fuolc. 'I'lu:(:u.lmnlnx. AIr.NclFen? Afr. Nb:I.sH:x. '1'Lnnk you, 111r. (lhnirmmt, imill Iwe eery brief. I th inlc ~re Ln l~e :nlol her ~rihle~s. 'I'hn ('llAlswt%x. \Ye. Imvu Ihrre ollLer trilnessrs, I',could like fo sny to I lie t.enllrmon, lr6n nrc here In 6e ltrnnl. Alr. Nr.I.vr:N. 1 11111111 lu Ilnmk Ibr. .cllnoss fnr his c.rj ~ p:dirnt nml (nJ1it'in' .IicJilir_ I annld I,.,inl onl /hnl Ihrrr :uvr Ihurr nf ils Mw 1 :ill I1nl'l Io Ilir id, 1 Ilhi./ Ili. f'.i ~.r.. . I~.... IJ i.i .. I.. . I. ~ .

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326 CIGARETTE LABELING AND ADVERTISINCr-1985 Dr. :itonex. The most. I am willing to say is that cigarette smoking may cause cancer of the lung. I cannot say that it causes it in some cases, or it does not cause it m some cases. I think it is a possibility in some ca,,es. But I canltot say for sure tbat it causea it. Mr.RocEasofTexas. Would the gentleman yield4 Doctor, there are a great number of people who smoke cigarettes who are healthy, are there not 8 Dr. MoRAV. Yes, sir. Mr. RoGERS of Texas. And there are great numbers of people who are utdlealthy who smoke cigarettes and would be just as unhealthy if they did not smoke cigarettes4 Dr. J[oRAx. I think that is true, yes, sir. Mr. Rocens of Texas. Thank you. Mr. SATrearleLn. Doctor, I would like to ask you one question. In listening to your statement and your answers, you indicated that the phrase "may cause lung cancer" would be acceptable. Would this be the more acceptable way to phrase it, or would it be more atceptable to say that it may be a cause of lung cancer9 Dc \loanx. Well, I have not actually said, as far as a warning label-I have not even thought very much about that. I would cer- taitll_v say it would be more acceptable and more scientific to say it iuay be:L cause of lung cancer than it is to say it is a cause of lung cancer. NIr..SnqTenarEln. Or that it may cause lung cancer? Dr. 3foRAx. I think that that is a statement I would be willing to make-that it may cause lttr~ cancer. But I would not be willing to s~~>- it is a cause or t1le cause of Iung cancer. \lr. SArrl;uFlEt.n. Would you say it may be more accurate to say it may be a cause of lung cancer t,ha~l that it may cause 1ung cancer 1 Dr. ~foRAx. I think either of those statements would be all right. May be a cause of lung cancer would probably be the best statement. Mr. SArrEBt~IELD. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The C1IAmncnx. Doctor, thank you very much. We appreciate your presentation. Dr. \fosex. Thank you, sir. The CunmMAx. Dr. Douglas Sptvnt. STATEMEAT OF Dfi. DOIIGLAS H. SPBIIHT, PEOFFSSOB, OF PATH- OIAGY AND OHAIH,ffiBN OF THE DEPARTKENT OF PATHOLOGY, UNIVEESTfY OF TENHESSEE Dr. SrnvxT. My name is Douglas H. Sprunt. I am professor of pathology and chairman of the department of pathology at the Uni- versity of Tennessee. I received my undergraduate degree at the University of Virginia and my M.D. at Yale University. I also re- ceived a master of science degree from Yale University, and stayed on at Y ale on the faculty as an assistant, then instructor and then a Ster- ling research fellow. Thereafter, I was on the staff at Rockefeller Institute and, in 1932, I went to Duke University School of Medicine as an associate professor of pathology, before coming to the University of Tennessee in Memphis in 1944. In addition to my positions at the University of Tennessee, I have been chief of the laboratories of the CIGARETTE LABELING AND ADVEIRTISING-1965 3`l,7 During World War II, I was consultant to the Secretary of War on epidemic diseases and for several years I was consultant in medicine to the Oak Ridge Institute for Nuclear Studies. 1 served for 4 years on the Committee on Growth of the National Research Council. I am a member of all five national pathology societies and have served as an ofticer for four of t1lem, including thepresidency of two of them, The Association of Pathologists & Bacteriologists and the Amer- ic;ul Society for Experimental Pathology. I am a member of many other professional societies, all of which are listed in the attached mir- riculum vitae. I have published 93 articles on the subject of pathology , many of which dealt with cancer. .1 list of my publications is also attsched. I have been interested in cancer of the lun4 for many years. Some of my early work involved studying the respiratory epithelium and its reaction to various infectious agents and, in addition to my continuing work in this field, I have followed the literature and the work of others in the field. There is a considerable amount of statistical data which show an association between smoking and cancer of the lung. Statistical data is extremely valuable. I have used such data extensively in my own work and we have in our department at Tennessee a ful-time statis- tician and several workers trained in the use of computer and other electronic equipment to aid us in analyzing clinical and experimental data. Statistical data, showing a high association between two factors, however, does not necessarily mean that there is a causal relationship between them. A statistical association may mean one of three things. It may be the result of chance, it may mean that the two related factors may both be the result of some third factor or the relationship may be that one causes the other. To determine the meaning of a statistical association, it is necessary to go beyond the statistical evidence to the laboratory and clinical ex- perience. In the laboratory, we do not accept statistical evidence alone, but be] ieve that if statistics show a close association of two factors, we must show that one can cause he other in the experimental animal before we can be certain a causal relationship exists between the two. To date, no one has produced cancer of the lung in aa experimental animal with tobacco smoke or with condensates extracted from tobacco smoke. Thus, laboratory confirmation of the statistical association is still lacking. It is true that cancers have been produced on the skins of animals by N-a.rious condensates of tobacco smoke, but skin cancer in experimental animals can also be produced by a number of innocuous substances, such as sugar, beef, et cetera. I do not think one can attach any great significa.nce to this work. The clinical data likewise do not support the suggestion that ciga- rette smoking causes lung cancer. There are many observed incon- sistencies in the pattern of lung cancer incidence, which cannot be ex- llained by any presently known facts relating to cigarette smoking or, for that matter, other suspected causal agents. The geographical dis- crepanci~ in lung cancer incidence do not follow observed dif:ferences in cigarette consumption. For example, even though the annual con- sumption of cigarettes in England is less than in this country, the in-

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201 ('IU,AItIPI'1'F L:AItP:IdNti AVU APA'1~:11'I'lltlNl; IIIIIG rrul af Ihr uh:wln,"n uf hrrnll:, Lul uul)' x prrrrnl uf uun.uluukrru; J.e prrriul ~~I' I6rwuok:~re, ~~hrsl uulnily ^ prrrrul ul uunn:uukrra. '1kr IlLlllly if Iuhe11uR ul' rll;urrin lnu'lulr.:w nud ul' vnulluum,r alulrmrul.. aillr ndrrriluiug lu JHrunrnl;r nun:kilt, ramwl br il,wuuslranJ ,rllll um'h tnri4 Ily. Id' )Crz rnn rnll up:~n whnl Ilu. 6n,-yrr. enll "rrre IV.an i:nPJtnr:' uf ruursr. If nJverlLclnF luW Puekntii' qt~viHU Ju uul nl.lruril smokery \vNy 14: ril;n- r:'llr vuwpnl:h:a IIU1111gr lu Iheu1P klol'o lu:Varblul Ili>In Ilwl nrgu:wvl., ho,crrrq i:, Ihr 6:,~1 Ihal. Ihc PcrrrWnl;c uf n,al.ulukCr~ rulrrinti 1rinrnluu huu gnlduuily risrn ur,r Ihe ri:trs. Uf Ihe olaxs rutrriul; in 1:)L4, r,N pen'nnf. lr/'rr nnllumuker+, hnll ky I:kiS, Hl/ l:t1rrot uf Iko tvllcring rh:ns ,crrr nulsn:nkern. 'Pbie pl't1Uu:11 19sc Lu. lurn dur In I Im,nnxlunt rxl,uwre lu Iht Llrtn uf Iltr rlTtrf uf ril:aretle smuk- hl/; un hr:dlh. 'I'hr rouul:mt r/mminJ,r uf prnvlarl.lt'e or ntInnl umnkera uf Ikecc ILvlu Ly nppruprinte Llb:liuti ::u:i by aNru:,ulv lurhulod willl ndv..tiJ,,h:q will uimilurly hrlP tu rrdurr amnkhhalnnuK nnr,rnnu/; proplr. 'Ihesr urc u:n'rrluona for nrehlF Irkisinl Ir: nclLm. 79muk you for htrorinti m,'. 'I'he (;unutnlAN. I)urlur, Ilmnk you ve.ry murll for your st.ntemenl. 1 lolv long Lln'e yuu bceu 111. Yriuce(un'd 1)r. llnlu)~ntrl.x:. I lutvo ltVen tllere fnr a1/z.years, sir. 'P6nCunuanlnN. Aroyuuonlhefnr.ldl.y'f 1)r. ILvI,in~nntn. My title is Ilirhrlnr uf ILe uuiversil:y lLC;lllh serv~ iccs ))il6 I lm rnnlc nf prufessnr. 'Plle Un,un.)InN. 1)o yotl lind IhldIllo Itnys nt Prince.lon sluolcre ocrclsioual I y'¢ I lr. I):u.in'mrla<. Yes; ns 1 have wrui inuod, IIICI'e III'/: ~1) 1>PJ'FNII )vlln urriee els r.ignrcl le vmukers. Sinne "O In 25 perrent sllu1 sulokiuj[ while Lhey :nre iu college, clnd 1\'e nre duing oin Lcst tu disruurohe this. 'I'he CNAntnl.\N. I. \c;ls inle.resIed in Ihn Slulisl.irs 1.6nt 15 lierte.ntt iu'ri )c ns snlulccrs. 1)r. I)nl.ln-nlrle;. 1`['s, Iit. This is n rrluurlcnLly sumll perrenl.nt;r. .vlLetu ynn nunlp:lrn il. lo 16e nutch Ilighr.r iunilk,ntu In 1.6e a,'/tral;r Iligll sr6uul. I Iowecer, I6n M.udenlti or yoan{{ pruple, vrho urn very' lnur6 nlol.ivated to)eard llro ful mo Illiul<iu,rnf Ille.ir rlu rern, Ilmir anlhit inus, uutl sn fufth, vemll Io I hink n.lvn very sl.ruugiy ilu lrrms of Iheir hrall h forllwfntnre. '1'ilisism,ycXplnnaliun. 'I'6o CIrnnlarnN. 1 6nd 1.6oaght I Lal. IL,. ptrrcula~c uf sulukiu~ bnys onlnring college wou Id bo nwch hi)r'hnr f.han'31111orruul. 1 ht 1):u.kc ntTlaa. 16 is nt somo r.nllrgrs, lultl il1 is n nlrll 6 il;Ler in nmsl. 6il;lt so.llouls, bldl om' llel1entalm, Las 6mn I'nllinR nnd lnls rrun6r11 this roluarkl161y low level. Thu {"ItAUCnIAN. 'I'hn6 is very ildlresl inl; indcecl. AI-e Ihoro qw;+- Liolm? Dfr. Rouelcxof'1'exnv. ,lnstnurqnv,(ion. I)a,tor, you say ynn ILl)ve cnnclnded bnyond ie teasunable dnnLt. IGaI: slnnl:in;; dors<,wlsnlun~clulcurY 1)1'.16\lalrarrl.ls. I Lnre,sil. hlr. I{oan:nn (if '1'exns. Anll you alv. f::r vuum lehislldiun Ihnt. will rlrptirr, Inbelinl,r uu tho paekn~c, bld. )'ou ul.u vcuul, t1uJ, Ial0inlg in- cdmled uu LLa ad vecti si nl; B Ih. Ilnl.lynlrl.i;. 1\\'uuld lil:e lAlsrr, il,sir. Af1.lioaraceof'1'exas. wtQI,I-henyon\cuuldn'Lllcfnl.jnsl.prnllilliting oiga.rrtlc+Hlnokini; nltut;elLrr? I)r. I):v.nvnut.ts. 1Ve11, 1. understnnd Illnt. \cheu 1I wus a snroll Ilny I.Lis t'nunlry Lnll n period of experimrldution vv~ilh Llle prohibil.inu of »lcoLoll Acliinll )vnv nolenl.nr.Iy sutreasllll. I ha.vt'e tlx, feelinr ILnI. luayhn snnwe of Ihn suwc pru6lrnlv nli'hl uriste if v)e tried In Ilrohihil, ri- ir.l/ _ 11 li. rlc.ucl?Ly.l,: Lnn4:LINU AN1: ADt'rllPrl~IN(1 1965 '.1.115 Alr. Il:w::u~ c:l"I'r[:1s. I~ ul r:nl 16in1: Ilml if 16r I:I% Imlrro-', fnnl Illr I,ill lu Inlt uu n prupnnu,l:l.,'nnyrai~u In idhrl ILi:;r:uul:airn you :ml~ Ille ri;:al'rllv. Imulde.:Ilre pullinp± ly 16:d Ihnl. \cuultl tlu Ihr jnhY Ilr. I/\I.Inalrlr:. inlr tvill lrll. I t\. onld t'ellnlllly nt;l'Ie o~i16 Ur. Ilnru 16n1Ilni tvitlvuro i" in fncnr uf tllis Joinw Ihe job at'1r a, periutl of t ime.. Itlr. Rnar:lls of 'PesnS. :1nc1 1'uu \rould prtfnt 1Ln( lucllu,d \vcu tlloug6 vun knmv iLrnusrslun9 rnrorr, \un t,. nuldprlftrlhal.wiILnd? I say °Itume''r.vt'.n ILuagll yun n:l)' y~nn Icno\r Ihnlil rlnlsrs Innr /nlKnf, vun ~culdd I,rrfcr roiuw tnln Illle lil'nhnrrtll111a r;uulmig-lr ll!.mins6 rlru- rol i n~molanq rnt hrr 16uu jusl 1tri,6i6i1 iupf il.? Th. I)ei,rs)~rirl.r,. 11) vie))of IILn pmsiblo 1onylli,-a.linns nf prolLibi- 1 iuu, I \\'onld. Af r. I{cx:r:us nf 'I'esas. 'Pll:mk yun. 'i'lle. ("u.\n:mnN. hfr. ,Gnlterti/Id, nny Ipuestinns? l1lr. Sn'1-rwierlet.o. 1 onIY lntve /me cp)esl iun. 1'ou slall./l, hir, Ilulf1 lu youl \c:11' uf tiliulaiuR itllas bltn prurrQ Iml~und a rrnsnntlble douhl. 1\\'nul. (4) krlo\v on \\1rd. y:m Lau. ILis /nnrinsion. 1)r. ILvlan~nlrlav. 1'llrlilulm'ly uu iiLl ~rcen prusl:trlicr ntmlir~ nf Imll; cnnrer. In ef*tirnrr, rn,ul mlfurlwlalelY has (In'nr:l Iliwself i1No 111e lahot:dal;1' :n)iluul 16:dIlr. (':u'Irr refers In. IIr Ims /unduelld Ille csperilnhnls on hinlsclf, Ihe "nnll" l)ypolhrsis 16:rf. IMrn is nn di/ferruru Lrl \ccen sluulcers:nld nonstnukers-- - Dfr. ti,vrrrau~lr.l.u. llnve ynn r:iadurlyd esperitntuls of yunr u\A'n? 1)r. R:Il.urnnLF.. No,sir. 111 r. ~.rrrr'.InlnVlu. I 6n vr nu nl llri' ynrcl inus. 'I'6n ('NAntM,vN. 1)n you rr,all tln sl:llislirs on Luw Insny prulllo ynrliriPnllII inlhisllln( dirtldurln,'nuclrol'Illrlun.-O I/r. Uel.rralrl.r:. I tlnn'1 hn)'r 16r tignree on Illul. '1'lle (''ll\111\I\N. I 11:1CP FIIIC tll(111't' /lf Iti,(NNl I tlun'l. knou' hu\v llmll!ol. inlu wy wind. Ur.lYn.l.lAiln. ~li 1/01)16i:+1't"il'. '1'll0 ('ll:\fIIM.\N. lnll `+n1''~/,IMIII. WC dl(111 lt. IM1'lllil nll+ ln lto itllo Ihis vciI1L I)I'.'Pcrry. 1 Ilid Illink' of it Id one lilnr. I)u t'rnl Ilnpllen lu know Lu\v 1nno,Y prupll I,mI Ihlir livr, rm'6 ye;lr frum 16c usr nf alri:hol? 1)r. I).\I,n.nml,v. 1 t1n uu( Iwvr Ilrell lignrr un IL:d. 11is obviunsly snhst;trd ial. ' 'I'hl, ('rtAnlnl:\N. We )\ill Ir1' In gel In.: infurnmli:m. I)n cnn kunlr ilmr mnny Imulde lose ILtir liees 1rrry year frmm 11ulttnlnbilr nlri- drnls un 16e 6i(<,6a~n)'s'! l)tt 1).\I.uv nl rl1':. 11 in 11reN v rlusr lu 50,000 it vrlll' no\\'. 'I'LP ('u:\uinl.\N. I Ihiul< it jmd g:mln1t:16ureMl llllll l\Ir.F.\ItTsl.r.). II isrvrn \curvrlLan I16oqt[lll. lion :h In 'I'lu' ('n.\uiol.\N. I lat1l'(v lurnliun Illin In rarvi o liw^ v:6t\ar dun'1. tlo r:uwolLiu;r uhnul ~Iwlr nf 16rtin nl llvr hnzou:l:<. Ilr. U.\I,In~nrl'Iv:. No doubl mr a6ould, sil. 'I'Ilerr n: Itulcrc/r, auo diil'vrttrrw Lnh\'rln nk'ollol uu'l Inhnato. I Ihink lllr rvid,'nrc it~ . Ihnl. 6nnu- /veu I,hl, uliuot' usn of /'il;:u'olle,,, ns IanR as Lhey nrl iulwlyd is flll rthile thn nlndrr:dl ns+ uf :Jrv:6nl, nvsntninr 111:11/LI indivillnnl rvn ronlrnl it, wllirlt is not nerevsnrily rorrerJ, Is nnt --

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L;{(1 CIUAIUE:I'I'll LAIIRI.IN/l AN11 A1111;II'1'IflIN1I--1Dtln Ilml. if tllo pulllir miclrrstutuls il. is n:rriuuS 6rn1111 hnalnrl, Ihut that isndnpmlo lu IIw fnrrsvruhle futwv,sir. AIr, 1"/IUNr,I:It. 1)e yuu Ihiulc Illnt wuruiut; Will dcr.rense cih:urlto smulcin{{'! AII.Fuure. AWnruiuqinIimodvcrt.isin;;;ym,sir. Afr. YouNUr:lt. Iu Ihe mlvrrI.isiu;!'4 AL. Nunrl;. YIs, sir. I11tt YuttNarat. YOU tllink lhnt n tcaruieg Ihrrn trill hc Innre etTect.ivo Uutn on t hn cnlau nucl I he package? Atr. Fuana. An a nlan who hns spentt his lifrn in ndvertisinm. I feel vury sw'e nf Ihat, sit. Afr. YOnNn612. lll the last is.slle of lJ.S. Netcs & 1Vnrld Relwrt, thero is a lenglhy ilnerview teilh 11r. Ilul'sfall, .rho is p1Y'sidcut and direcler of Ihe Sloan Kettering lhtslillde for Cnncer Research. Mr.FcNnM. Yes;Ihuow,l)r.llnt'sfnll. Afr. Ynurtnr:n. I do, too. I.cate6ed him grow up from it boy in Senl.lle, I knew his father well. Yct, xll threugll thnl, inlerview, cixarcllu sinnkint+ is not used, rind .vhen lie was nsked n. qnest.inn, "\Vllalt causes rnnrerl" lie said: Wull, we nre nlmnrt cerlnle ILnt ihrre is nnt n sinnle cnnne af rnnrrr. We nro quile enetltleut Ihnt It rnn hc Indnrrd, cun bn- . 1-vl to oceur nud detclup Ly ft vnricly nt dilTerent rnestn, or IwnnlJ prefer ln sny a vnricty nP prieutry inritors. lSnt, uotvhnre in Ih:tt cnt.iro inlerviow ducs Ilo even nlonliun cignrrliu smoking. Onn,1'eunrcuenl f,/r16n.14 \lr. Mvrlt. Ne; I rnlmnt, cir. llnl. I Inl,III 101 van tllis, if I Inny. 1)r. flnrvL111 Imd I srrvell Inget6er nn Ihc 1'rrsiclr.nCs Cominissinn ou Ile:u'( I)isousc, Cuncer,:lnd tilreke,:uld hc lold me al tlwlh lhnl. Ile ngreed with Iny puint of view on Ihe cil;arelln tcuruing Innlir.r. If you ask lhiw, I lue snrc Le will tell you Ilvll.. A'Vhy lie didn't mentiun ilf in Ihie nrlicle, I hnven'Il the ,slightest idnn. liut hu was also a member uf the t~ominission whicII t'nled Ilcis slrnng endorsu- went nf Ihe r,onalnsiaus of Iho Surgr.un (irnrr:ll'p report, sayint; ihat smekinl; is a srrinu5 hn'r.:lnl lo henllh nnd Ihrre is inllirnbIl Ihr nced for mnre aggressive llrn;;r:uns iu tlds nrrn.. lhr. Ilors6tll Slgluvl hls nalne I n t.h:rf slntrlucnt. s:r. I le nlso signeQ it to this- It Feeinx nPltiirenl. Ilmt the roUnrlinn or ricnrolte slmlcinR oITer9 great pos- nlbililies fnr Ihe Preventinn of Illuesn, dicrlLiilly, nnU prenmt.nre drnlh In Ilde cnnntq', wltl: rennnl to hdll crmcer nnd rnrJiornaninr disrvnrn. FRANK N. llunxvnr.r., Jr-,Tt.D., Cnnunlrt.riun IlcmDrr. AIr. YouN/uCc. tlo is ralher slrn.n{,m, thunl!h, Ihu.lin ihis enl ire iulcr- viow, whe.n lte hnd :ul nhmld:tuL ullpnrlnuill' of rrnlly slrikinp,r ol hlon for libeliy, lle didn'1t slrilce fllr blmv. Afr. 1n uut'n:. I unly lcnnw .chldw hr.sa iil hrrr, vir. 7'ho (1 n.t nc nl A rv. IlI r. ICoreegay. ATI. KnnNru.tr. I helir.vo )'nq Ieslilircl )un Wrre Ihe prrsiibnl. uf Ihn Nnlionnl Inlrrn;nuc.y ('ulmcil ou fincnkin;; Inlrl llenll.h. Af r. 1er,u'rr. Ycs, sit. Alr. Kunvl:a%-i'. :Awl hnce lisled sonue 15 vnriuev orgnuiz:dinos. Alr. Funn<% tiislecu; vrti,5ir. (.It;Altlti'I'I'1? IAIn;1.IN/1 ANn AII\lill'1'IRIIA; 1065 :.).11_ Afr. KneNrn.ts. 'I'6nt arn mrncbrrn nf Ihn Inirrngrniy ('ouuril, is f.hnl. ri;,W.'? AIr.l+cnrrt:. Nul.onlymrm6rl:v,sirr. I'61.yor{;:mizeQil.. Alr KunNr:uAc. I'hryurgnuizccl il? Alr. Piun-1:. '1'he Inlern,;rnc,y Cutmcil;yea. Alr. KrntNlcnAr. All uf Ihom nru rhnrtcr welnhers, Ihen, ynn Inight say. nlr.Msrrts. Yrs. AI r. li uu rnmA v. 1Vhose iclen. tvas il. lo or;.,nu1 ize thu I ntrrn9enc.,y ('oln:- cil un tiuwkinq und I lc:ll/h'{ Alr. hl.rro:. Wrll, lirslt of all, il wltslit wine, Ll.atuse .1 tvas unt n.rnnnll. '1'he Listory;Xocs lilco Ihis. Thn Amerioan (l:mcet' Stxiely, ihe Amerienn Ilenrl Assnriutinn, fho National '1'uherrldnsis Ati.secintmn, tho American l'nLlir. Ilenlth Asui- ciatiou, ond thu U.S. Pttblic llrnllh Servicu hacl a meeting more Ihan nyontn,!'onndliiw:nssedt6opmsibililyofit. Au/litf;reaout.oflhnt. And they gnl. Iho nlhers Ic: gn n1unK wilh ILem, and Ihc,y formally tre.nl. iul n businhsv ~I uIy 9, 1'Jli I. I rlidlit lLavo'nnv ronueeliun a6/h il.InNil llecenllwr 1, 1961. Alr, KonNr:enr. Ill other UorJS, yun sny Ih:lt Illa flrnrl Asaurictliun, thn ('n nrer Ati~;raiul ion, l'nblir I Ic :I~Ih, nnd mn_ylx+ol hrrs'd Alr. Fcurre. And Ilw lT.ti. 1'nbli,. Ilexlttl Surviro. 'I'hesee ace.re Iho original insliqldors,Yc,n niight say, nnd I.he othcrs quirldy c:uur nlon}; tvilh Ikenl. So, lhey :nr. nll chn rlcr nlolnhnrs. Illl. Ru¢rut:unt-. I'ho I'nhlic IIrullh Svrrin nnv in un 1hu grcnmd flonr of it, tcasn'I. it.9 Alr. Facrnt Ycs, eil'. f,tr. I(olcneatr. Aud wLcro i~Il:eullirnof tlu. Inlera:;.nrt- I'uouril? Alt.Fnnrt:. \Pehnve.itlnnilin;,~addre`tiinllet.hrsd:l,Nd.,t6el.ilmnry of Illedirinu. ' AIr. iCnnrrFOnY. 'I'he N:diou:d LiLI'nry ef Aledicino? M r. PauMl:. Ycs, sir. Afr. KnnalxnnY. '1'hnt is:. (7nrornmun/. n~roncY? A1r. hnlrrr. Yes,.cir. I mit;ld. sa} I hnrc never bncn Iheru. I mnin- tniluut otlire. in Now York Cil)' al my ulcn espeuve. AIr.Krnuveunr. Ynuhnvr.nnnlhcr,dlircinNua\'nrl:? Atr. hlnnt. I muinlniu onn; ces,sir. Alr. ICnnrvcmtv. \Vhmoarc 16r~se Iwucecl'nl:uice4 Mr. Pourle. '1'hqy wnrlc in Ihe Bclhc -' ollice. Alr. KrncNl:anc 'Phe I'ublic 11r.nll h SIrvire? Mr. Fuo~rr:. Ye.s, sir. '1'ho 1'nblic Ilcallh Service n.hreed to furnish the seclr.tnrinl help- Alr. KnnxeuAV. I1n they r:end thuso rrcrolmies to New S'ork? AL. Fnrvcv. No. Itnll tvn 6uru np (lie lines l.tllcimr LscIc and furlh. Awl I enlno to l1'nshinglun, Ill Ihu I'uhlir. Iln::llh ;ervire ullicev fru- yue.nl ly. AIr. KunNeuAV. \V6rrr. do )uu hncc Ihe uueul Ihnsesrc.relnrias9 Alr. IINrrr.. They gctt onl lellel. aud nlumorandmus lo ntcmhcrs of thu auuucil nnd ul.her orRaeizxl iuns. Air. KoeNnlAV. 1'ox, I nnJerslnnd tlnd.. ISut trhu.ro dcros Ihis tnke placc? A1r. Nlnrrlc. In 1111 hr.dn., Plil.,sir. 111r. ICcn:.vl?s.~v. I lnt nl Ilte .

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31(~j CIGARETTE LABELING AND ADVERTISINCr-1965 k:xPerimental Aspiration Pneumonia. V. Acute Pulmonary Edema, Pneumonia, and Bronchiolitis Obliterans Produced by Injection of Ethyl Alcohol, Am. J. Clin. Path.27:300,1957, with Dr. H. Richard Hellstrom. Studies on OcAronosis, Am. J. Path. 33:591,1957, Abstract. Studies on Ocbronosis. 1. Report of Case with Death from Ochronotic :3epbro- sis, A]I A Arch. Path. l# :46,1987, with Dr. Jeanne A. Cooper. Xanthomatous Biliary Cirrhosis, Tr. A. Am. Physicians 70:243. 1t157, with Drs. J. D. Niyers, Jessica Lewis, and Robert Olson. Psendozanthoma Elasticum. J, of Gerontology 12:429, 1957, Abstract, with Dr. A. 1. Lansing. Studies on the Nature of the Abnormal Fibers in Pseudoxanthoma Elasticum. AMA Arch. Path.65:688,1958, with Dr. A.I. Lansing. Asian Influenza and Mitral Stenosis. Report of a Case with Autopsy. JAMA 1 e6:1467, March 1958, with Drs. J. A. Rock. and A. I. Braude. TL« Histology of "Farmer's Lung." Am. J. Path. 34:585, 1958, Abstract with Dr. R. s. Totten- Farmer's Lung; Report of Two Cases with Lung Biopsies. Am. J. Med. 25:803, 1058. with Drs. R. S. Totten, D. H. S. Reid, and H. D. Davis. The Patbo4enesis of Experimental Bronchiolitis Obliterans. Am. J. Path. 34 tr#10, 1958. Abstract, with Dr. U. R. Hellstrom. B of3Cortisone intModi9cation of~the Lea ons,tA-A Arch. of Path. 669691 a19f"a8, with Dr. H. R. Heltstrom. Studies on Endogeunus Lipid Pneumonia and Blood Lipid Levels in Cortisone treated Rabb3ts. J. Clin. Path.11:551,1958, Abstract FamBial Muscular Snbaortte Stenosis: An Unrecognized Form of "Idiopathic Hesrt Disease", with Clinical and Autopsy Observations, Circulation 21:167. 19MA, with 71rs. L. B. Brent. A. Aburano, D. L. Fisher, J. D. Myers and W. J. Taylor. Effects of Cortisone on Atypical Cellular Proliferation In Rabbit Lunga. Proc. Am. Assoc. Cancer Res. 3:157, 1960, Abstract, with Dr. R. S. Totten. Cortisone and Atypical Pulmonary "EPitheliar" Hyperplasia Effects of Pre treatment with Cortisone on Repair of Chemically Damaged Rabbit Lungs, Am. J. Path. 38:575,1961, with Dr. R. S. Totten. Studies on Ochronosie IL ERects of Injection of Homogentisic Acid and Och r6notle Pigment in Experimental Animals. Am. J. Path. 40:359, 1962 with l:dnardo J. Tunis, M.D. Diahetiv and Cortisone-lndueed Renal Lesions. ~1 hoD~oos~~ ydh~n`gartz, hi4tochemical Study, Lab. Invest. 3:210, 1962, and J. J. Vasquez. Cort.isone-Induced Alterations in LiDid Metabolism. Morphologic and Serologic Observations in Rabbits. Arch. of Path.73 :300,1962. Villous Tumors of the B.ectoslgmoid Colon with Severe ElectrolyitehItnn=alancle: A Cause of Unexplained hiorbidity and Sudden Mortality. w W ells a nd Dr. N. M. Cooper. The Am. J. of Cl. Path. 37 :507, 1962. weight Loss in Cortisone-Treated Rabbit9-Effecta of Streptomycia and Penicil- lin. AMA Arch. of Path. SePt.1963, Vol. 76, pP-330-&i2. Dr. :iLoR,.v. Thank you. The CH.vnMAV. Doctor, thank you for this interesting presentation. I~uPpo`e we probably could consider this a graduate study course. It has been very revealing and interesting to me. I was about to ask earlier-as an ordinary layman-what yott have shown here demonstrates the failure of the lung to take sufficlent oxy- gen to supply the body because of the condition which you have stated to the commlttee; is that true? Dr. AIoRAN. If the process involved enough of the lung. Usually in the ordinary lung cancer there is not enough of the lung involved at least at. the beginning to cut off oxygen to the entire lung, so the patient may live a long time with a lung cancer, unless it becomes so extensive that almost all of the lung tissue is lost. The C11Antnfea. I had reference to cancer as well as the other con- '---' CIGARETTE LABELING AND AD\"ERTISING-1965 317 Now, you showed a picture of a lutlg that was atTected, these pockets-the pockets where air was taken in were closed up with the cells that you showed. Dr. Dfonnx. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. And the more of those-I guess with the under- standing I have, I call them cells-the more of those cells that fill up those pockets, the less room there is for oxygen to go into that lung; is that, right? Dr.llfottAx. That is correct. However, in the animal slides which I showed, these nodules are not present everywhere. They occur irregularly in some parts of the lung. The animals are still able to breathe. And tlte animals that do live- a few of them die. But the animals that du live, then lose these nod- ules, and the changes disappear. In other words, it is nor a mtiforln prncess involvi ng the entire hmg structure. The CuamM.i-,. I realizc that. We talk about the cause and so forth. «'ould tlus indicate that the man who has nn enormous chest expansion has a very fine lung that is capable of taking in a lot of oxygen, and a tnan who doesn't have much of a chest. expansion better get llis lung analyzed? Dr. \Ion.lx. I think this would be a difficult question to answer. I don't, think chest. expansion alone would 1-re a complete index. I vn afraid my chest ha_a been expanding some, and yet it doesti t mean that I can breathe any better. The CnA1RM...t. Well, it is a very interesting analysis. I personally want to thank tyou for it. Mr. Rogers: i11r. RocEtn; of Texas. Thank pou,11lr. Chairman. Doctor, I am sorry I was not here earlier, because I looked forward to your testimony. But there seems to be a great deal of concern insofar as the legislative processes are concerned, that the words "may""may be detrimental to health," or hazardous to health, is not sufficient. The people who have come in and undertaken to press tlus matter, including the Federal Trade Commission, take the position- and the scientists and some of the doctors-that they must have the word as a definitive straight statement that cigarette smoking is hazardous to your health. Now, after listening to the last, part of your testimonv, which Iras verv intereksting, it caune to my attention sonle of the things that are in these snmmarles cost the taxpayers of this Nation apparently quite a bit of money to find out. Now, I notice in this booklet on smoking and health, by the Depart- ment of Ilealth, Education, and Welfare, on page R76--I read a state- ment the other day which we thought. w;ts a great find. It says: Although amokers are different from nonsmokers p.sychologically and soeinlly, there are many differences among smokers and among uonsmokers, so that some smokers mny be like some nonsmokers. Would you a gree then that finding lcas t rite ? Dr. 11foRax. I am afraid I cannot pass on that particular statement. I jnst, don't know enough about the psychology of either smokers or nonsmokers. D1r. Rot:ess of Texas. I think it is important in that they have lvaed the words "smne smokers may be like some nonsmokels,"'bttt I don't

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2}q (71(IAltIST'rR LAlAE3dN(1 ANI) A113'I:IYI'IS1N(.'-1965 Tcnh, nud Ilr. AI. ICnJlutn, ef Ihe i.abNUd lnhurolory nl. Ihe Univorsity of Notro nn Inc. In allolher rrpnrt, nt'IrnIluln frneo Ihr Sloeul-KeIlrrhlg lnxllllltt' fnr Illnrror Itrxonrrlr rrporlyd Ilorl. Illc Ilerlu:v nhuplrx vlruc IIlnl rm1aen rnld nurvn Nnl unly tmh:lures thr n6illly ul' rhreJrnla to rnu.r Lrult;e lumur, but ahto Inrrrnnrv Ibc converslon et lhoso 6roxlhs Intn tunlignnnl rnucorc fnr ntore thnn nther rirnl cocnrclnoi;ene do. I.vill jnst. put those in the rt'nord. (Tllo nrtialls referrrd to follow :) IFroln thn Cnnrirr-./nunml, t.nJnvlllq Ry.. Apr. 8, 111/SGI BAOtvr.Nn Tn Iannen'rn Itnncnn Ne:W Yunlc (Al')._..l'nychuluHlslN nro InruinR uP nn nPVlu'rnt. link hcllsrru cllllrcrnllll hllllttlli Ctnn111111N. 'Chey Iluel {hu~t umuy Innn nnlt wancn hnli .ult'rrr.n PrrioAS n[ nalluc=n nnd hnpe- lesknl.ss months ur eveu yevrr® beforo 1 he Alemrne nppenred. 9omn nf Llhclr flnllhlRS were Ilescr{bed this weck d,l a cendnrence nn ps3'cho- phyxloloGlrnt n,,l'<'Ns nf alnrrr spnnsn[etl by Ihe New Yurk Acnllemy of Sricers.n. n'L'Ann'rtoa usnn nur Among nnc hruulr nf 700 patients, 72 Prrmul hnd n Dnltern ln their life hln- torlra tbnt wna tyPicnl ot nuty 10 l.,rt'tfeil I I'rafnlgnr tltlluepibtlllnlul Itl r sadd I/r. Lnwrenco 1,. I.cBhnu, 1 y'he lo1'i"t nt ~ Instilelll of Ieiuloey In New Ylrrk Uliy. All lhese canror Pntirnls hnd unliorgnne n ferihtg nf ArsPnir before Illrlr cln- cera uDpvnrrvl, he snld. 'Phcre wns "n bbnk hnpclessnxa ubuat ever nNaiNinlt nny locaniuG, zest nr valltlity iu life:" Thcir life histurlee consisted of thnr, stal;ay, lle a/hled : "A rhihlhornd nnd rnrly ntlolrvtrenre nNlrkrd by fet9ingv of Iilndeeplncy nod n nt,nse IhnTt elnnUonnl relntlnunh{ps rvnre tlangornnn, aod shunlrl otdy lie luvestcd GII 1'ntltll/11Y1y. "A lu'rle.l of Inlrr adnlescence ur ndollhesld in ahich nn hllentie rnlnl.lonshlh was mnde lutd bocnme 4 he nlnjnr fnclrv nf 1.IIC p:t I ionCn li fe. "Aml a ihh'll sln>;c In whlch Ihe retntinuuhiP wns loxt nnd uo ncacPlninu nulrxl ll.llier enuld he fuelnd " tRramn ILn New Pork'l'hnrx, Anr. 12, 191151 ANIAtA1H'1'11111ItIIIT'1'e Itf: I'ItN:R nr AI.I (Ir:rtrtn qrUNTANrInRelY I)Ya'P.r.nl' yr1t119-1iA115k:1r CANel:IL By Juhn A. tlmmmndxuu Axt.ANTta Cl'rv, April 11.-The slrnntnulnua Uevehqunrnt of vlrnx.'nnsc,l cnn- cer lu nnimnln lhnt wrre thought In he fre,c nf nll get'mn wnx rrportoll fnr the fi rst t itnc hcre texlay. The new Ontling appears to henr strungly on: Tlm nitlmnte qlteution uf what rn n.~cn rnmv2. 7'ho vnlidity of certnln conclnnions lhat have been based on nnhnnl exp.rl- rnents. UnelerstnnJing of tbn way In whinc cancer ocenrN naturally in Irnlnnnn. fJ'ho relbrt also vuggr:als thnt nll nnimulnIucludinR mltn--nre bnnl wi1L viral ildvrtlous, whlclt rnny hnre menllinq fnr nevrrnl n111ictinnn, rnnRiun frnm rmrwu hrDlelit.ia tn lcukenlhl nnel nlhrl' foruls nf uudignlincy. The discavcry w:tn rciurrlrtl to Ihc 4UIh nmwnl mccllnt; nf Ihr P'wlcrntlon nf Awerlran S(<lellex fur ldzlwrimen1nl IUology hy I)r. Murris Pollnrd, 11. A, Tr.vh, ned Dr. M. 1CnJilnn, nf Lhr LNLluld LnbornturS at the llnlvcraly nf Nutrn unwc. Arrurnillti In Ihrir repnrt nll srvcu t4rniuu if "/:rnn free" ulire that hnvn aulnv. 6rrn li,ulwl pn 111r hnrrtlrvtIqNd virnl loe6e 4i/;uilltlud. nlnnbtrs nf nninlnlv in six nf iLe strains dereluprd the blund cnnrcr nVlrr thny lmd brr.n rxPnnod Ie. \-I'nyF, lhr wrirntints P:LIJ. Lrtlkeuda vlrnyrs wrrc then fuuwl in Ihe nuiNlnl l.i..w-.n. CIf1A1Li'r'r12 LA111:LIN(i AND A11vGRTISINn-Ih6., 219 Tlirn in Ulc snc'rntlt sh:Iin, hnWrrcr, rnme duwn wllh vlrnl Irnkrlnln nlmN- tnnransLY --wil.hultl. mly nppnrruL iulrrcrnliau L,r sume olhrr rnrcinngr'nie, or rnnrrrvrnl"inm nqont- dll nf Ilu, nlrniNS )md bmn ;;mm~ 6n' nrrrnd glalernllnnu In I,dal InnlnllnN, 'I'hrll' vqrronudhlftu N'rre krPL rr.luplclrly slcriltr, nnd n11 nf Ihe y'onN): mol'e (telierrrJ Ly Irnnrrllll .+eHinn, 'l'Im onrl3' Rr'noralJnn.r were wemuvl elll sit'I'Ilir.ryl I'orlnnln Ihruogh n ctonlarh Laha le prrrlNeie cven nliatrual coutnmluulion hy LhcIr molhrrs. d'rrvinu.r rel>,aqs of Ihe eleveluPlnetrt of tnnmrs lu eeiinnla rni.crd mldrr surlr vnudi/iotln Irudeel tn 6n Lnrrprrfrd n.+ mcaNing thnt cmlerr rm11J dtnelup iN llm ahsrurc uf rirntaru, 'I'haf punill,nl wns e'nulrnry In nlle hlkrN h.v n 7lrowinS wmlhey' uf u.irnll:an trho Inli,-c.r IhnlI virlwrs- nium' ul' in ronJnne'l lun Wllll ulLrr I':I,lor:: :n'r al. Iln rnul ul' all rnurrr... Th, Ilrll Ilutliu;; Illnlrtlltm Ihul Ihr pus:;ibillly Ihlll rnur,I' I>:, In rcrarv, ch':II J6:,:1.r c:untut yrt lle rnlrJ nNl. , it Alurr'urcr, Ihc Illurnrery ul' cirn.r, iu nuimnlx frnnl whleh :L71 IForew procmnnhly bnd be.eu hnnlchrtl sutsenls I:hat Pnv.,tible elfects of rirunes--trhelhrr Ihe ngl'nla :nro eleterWLlc or not- un Ihe unlrnnn uf anhnnl experirnenlx nlnsl. uow be lnkrn fnin cunviJornlanu, In farl, Ilr. 1'ullnnl snhl Ihnf hc lrnlllll "Nnt Ite nnrprimll if nll wmise xlrninN (ni Irasl l wcrc hd,rlel lrilh leukemia Yinwrx, nlnl ihix rnnid hc a rrry urrioou Ib111iI11P:I1lUtl Ill IIII/nt11Uj efe'ntlrer." '1'he Nulrr Ipuer xrirulisls J,r nul. Icnuu' fnr rrr6rlu Irnw Ihc "e,.nn ft'w;" Inirv brrmue Enfrrlrrl wiih Ivuhrmi:l Ilrunrv. '/'bry' LrIleec, hutclrrr, /hnl Ihr Iqfrr- IIuN xuvcnll~rnllal, trauvmllllU frunl uu,lberh1 ulilqrrlog. Nnrh :t mrrhnNisel nf runt;ruillll rir:tl iufrrtinn bns hcrn xPrrNlal.al epun fnr a IunR Iimr, Irut. thc Nnlrr llume osprrlemu/s korIn to I:rlnLlislt ilml. H. doen oPellr. LI nddlllnN, tho umv ftuelinks sNFgest thnt IJre presence or nhsrnro nf nthrr geruls, yetrh ns Irnelrrin, dor:e rlol Intillenre the sUOUlmICnlls tlerclupteclrtt of vlrel IcnkeminN nnd thnt n hrr,vlitnry fnrfor uf Felue =urf ix Invnhull in 1 he pnnrss. Thls rII111I111.¢Inn /Allle frbell Illt Ncielltlst9' nhA/4rntitllln fllat Rllnlltellr9nln InnmrN elevNulrrd with 11IRrrcut frrqllrnclen itl 1111rnrent sirnlua nf nlie'c. '1'hls, IllrV N/I111, Illealll. fltnt. I1PI'P(lil$ h:l/l nPP1lrVnlly ntndC Fuelr Inrp pn.;,y.IrIILIP In Ihe rarriqn>;enir nel Ion nf virll"un Ihnn nlhrM. iLl nnnlhrr rrporf .riodliav fru:o Ihc Slonn-RntAering luvlllldc fnr I'nurrr Itaerarrh rrlnn'lod Ihnt Ihn hirpes simPlrv rirev Ihal rnu.~r.x oolJ nnt. nul,r relumrov Ihc rmllitp nf ehvml,:tls Iu c:ul.ue heeltin Ituuurv hn/. IlJsn lu- rrrn.rv Lhe rnnvrrsinn if Ihm:n gran'Ihs Inln nmligennt rnnrlv'u fur Inurc Ihne ut.heq' rIrnl enr:n'rlNUl;rns tin. 'I'Id.a mn,, lulnrl,rrirq Itr 11r.'1'. rlrnla nml Ur. Ches9er 8unlh:nn ns elr:Ullng Ih:lt Ihu hrrelIllnry Iualrrial nf Ihc viruz h:ld n ymt'lal rff/rl nf il,v nn'n nr rllher InlUnling nr wniulnining Ihe rnurrrulrv gronl.h. 'I'hvy arr eu,lv Iryin4 In elclrrlnilu' lvhnt. Ihc sllrrinl rROrt is. Air. 1~ tNrrN, '.1'l1:uJc you, '191e('unnrninN. Alr./lillillnn,auqlplestinnc? Afr. f i ua,Ir,A N. .tnc/. ;I. briof qursl.ion. nG'. Ii,onln ]Ins }I:ul ndrertitiuf.r ncpericurn. I nw iulcrcdod in Lhe ob,vervni.ions Innlln by solne of my u/llcbknns alwut I6n impnct o[ ineludin~r uarninRrs iu 9dvcrlisiug, in nly Sla.lo rrf Ohio, IIntI I snspertt it. is 1rrlo tilrongllollf Iha cnltu- try, all polii.ical nrivnrtising i.g relinired In e.nrly tt IlivcL'lintrr, snyin;; ill;tt 16is is n p;tid polilie:ll ntlrnrliserllenl isvned by c/r nnd ca, a'hirh has Ihn general I.Irect nf aayibR Llrnl1 nll l'rnn La.rn honnl n.ml hnvn sern up Tn (his lroint:lin't neressnrily Fn, bernnql Ihis fuv is a. Irnlilao.inu, a.n/l, 1.hcrrfort', nnt to br I.IVral'd. :1nli yrt, I I~ou'1. I:nun' of a.nl' politininus n'ho nsnhcn-x politirn.l ntlvcrlisill~r in llis cnlulinipplv ful' 11111PU. Iln ynn 144) 9ny reln.lionahip LN.IVepN a Ilisrlnllnet' of Illnl. II-Iro :unl hllo Icind of tvnr'ninRr Ihnl. mil;ht, t,ro iulo IuDnreo ntlverliSin,-VR 19 ,c_1 lif -- 17

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261 1 CIGAItRTT13 LAIID:LIN(i ANP AUVF.ItTIS1N(C--196fi I IfICAItN'r'1'Iti 1.AIniLIN/1 .1N11 Alltll;ll1'ISINIi-1DII.R 'L(jJ g;tiuod woi(;6t, usually as maclt ns 11) to 21) pounds during sevcrnl w¢eks. '1'o t;:un tceiRld, ill tLis noumcr uuly prove lu bo unhtu11.6y- luld auol.6er rcnvou for uly tvork ttaa fotuld. Aflor o periud of severltl tuunt6s, wy skepl,icisnt proved to bo rigLt. Cig,ur.l Lo eonsIUUption, nflet' u sllort tlecreasq uRain was ou the riso- anllsl.ill is. '['o tell people in a straight way aLout ltt,y 1lrteutnul experienco-- "llovv To Sntoko and Feel l+'ino"-tvould nut I~ t.al suaces.sfld. It vvould uot help lhe stubbotn sotoker. Thinl s aro nut us simplo as Lhry look nt, licst, sud such u tvcitnl lvonld nol, lind luo.ny olmn eats. .lrtued trtl.lt ury oan oxporieuco ;nol Lnsic nbsetval.tous on Ilt o sttll- ject., wltir.h tvere asselnbled together tvillt nly Europcan fricnds, I te:tlizr'l thnL slbstanl.inl tcork nmslLo done tu Itc1~I peoplo. 1 tvcnt to work, and hnvo douo extcnsive rr_seurrlt ill t.lro Lt ma+r) smoking tueu. Tho "Itepotl, to the Snrgeou (ir.uoaal" Acss of great help, as tcas t-Ito liildiugr;t Ihy on timokiug nnd llcull It, 1L1, t3-(i:S, published with Iltis report. Another help was lho large L:usnu e.t ul. monoRraply and ICapor[s of Dr. C. (,. Little, scieulllic direc,tor of the Couucil for Tobscco Ii.ese:uc6-iJ.S.A. (11-6er rel'ereuces nnd li(xirntatn, most of tlmnt rcceive.d throuRll tho National l.ibnny of Afcdicinq aelso we.ln of sub,l:tut.ial tkssisl:utc.o. I 6;tve nnl, nnde,rlal.en ptncticnl or Inlorotory rescurclt ns tLis woull exeeed lpy meuns and Limet I lotvever, I have recortleduuwnbcrofobservnliousoumysolf. '1'haro lras no o1Ler w/ty to shtdy mtuty pcrtinottt qaestions nnd rcloled problews, nualyzo Lllem, aud find :t logical answer. f nut :ttelvo I Iutt i[ my work is to be uscl'ul to othet poople proof mnst bo pre5cnl.Al. If this is not possible, suppmLinR evitlenco for offered nbservnl iom; uu1sL bo preseulcd ill a delintie fornt. 'I'Lr.tnfore, 1 stnrled lo .raic, In slndy problents, dntn, ellecls stattis- tics, aud cousequencos. A[lor:uutlysi, , a logical Lnildup wns>lnrmetl, leadiug to a solul iou fur I ho s1.uLhurn smoker. 'I'llls InUI to 111ClIHle tlte cnuLrnl ncavotm syslclu, ptr.sible lulornliun for smokiug, ct crtern. Aforl.ldil.y dltta had to Iro lnkrn into eonsidcralion, nrLatt vel:sus rurut livin{,, rnaalpnl.iou, et cetnra. I arrived uL:t solutiou wltic6 would r.unsidentLly__.in nty opinion lutd as a re5ult of nly work--rrdnr.o 1.6o Itralt.lt hnznrd in smoking and inlutling cigarette smoke. Suclt a solution must be dolnonstrated for l.he sl.u6born snoker ill :vt open, e:wy-lo-tutdctst:tnd wny, then let Lint decide w11icL way lie will cLoose. 16 tuuy Ln Llto wny of reqsw, or 110 tuaty be unrensmtoUly cx(lose,d to serious 6aznrds in snwkiug. This "ro;tsou" nutst lm st.atetl. \v6y and Iww to n.pply it :Ilso Imtst be given. lu addition, snroketg must have an easy wuy to cltee;k whether tdle advice is fact or fiction. 'f6e sola- tiou wust have :t Uasis and dtlcnlncnLal ion of other scientilic work. TLoro aro luore LLau 63 references uitetl ill nty study. 1 lmlieve thuL tlte Amcrican smoker is 1Len[th mintled. I seoproof of t6is in the euormous rise of lilter tip cigarette cmtsumpt.ion m tho last 15 ye:us. 'Pltcse cigarel I+s way be culled "health tninded" aign- te1Je5l I lotvever, in tny nuulysis of the uso of liller Iip cigltrettes, 1 fuund cr.rlltiu circowsto.ncns, wllicJl ulny 6e tnisleuding, permitLing tlw introiLlcl.ion of mora noxious tauns and goses into tilo body. LI your Ilands is lilt nbsla:ud. of lily sl.ud,y. 1 I I:.ninl oul Ilnl 11u :.tuli..n f,rllu..lnhlmrn iunl..... ,:lil) ll.'"~ oonlirut ar corrcct, it. In lxrl. 111 of l.ho ubsl ru.cl, I11ero is:t suuuout.y u.ml tle/iu it.ions ot sol;l;:~I r~ rtwen rnh. lu 16o tuueso of tuy lcork ubuul. tLu cowpoueuls of IoLruro Slnokt`, 1 fuuu:l t6all ill t.lw lnroluplr6e euwbutilion of lubn.a. it gas is ~ru orlll:d. 'IIlis ;ts is a slr:tighlI~oison--:t dunp,r.rons poiwu. It i, ioholed wil6 Ihe lobaceo slunkr. Alany ol.ker reseurrhees foulul Ikis, :tud Lllare is nu Ilispnie or coml.rorersy ulxnlt it. '1'Itis gls is cslLou tnonoxidel u trell-lulutvn ouJ polrnll poi.on for mnn. ltt my opiniun, il. is ssl onlskint; (11111. nloru ul lenl ion trns not paid Lo I his poi:umous g,t.ti siuco Lhcre is pruof of its lli1;~61y tlaul;eroas prollcrl.ics. '1'ho reportt to 1.6e 'jtu-grou Ucner:tl pnys nl.leul.ion (o Ihis. '1'kcrefore I tvas lel, ns ,:ny, `forcc,l" lu intpuln lo r.lrbon loonoxi.lc R.:la in lolnncn su/okr, schru iehnLd, Lip6l't uncinu::yunlilit~. Aslo l6r:uuomlt in 16cri~nrcllcn swoke, plrvc+o Inrn lu pnr. Uu of Iho rnCH,rt In Iln tiorrrvon Uone.rnl. lifiulcr pnl,.o 2 uf tho ultarLril alsl.racl, ure uuwy dcl;tils iu point No. 2. C:Irbon tuoutteido I,rns is rcndily abulrbed iulo 1-Le blootl hemn;.loLin, and with high ptoboDilil.y o.uu,es imtlaimd mrlabolism nud~nwclt lten161t daluu.g:. '1'ho only,uny In l;el. rul of Lhis poi,vou to elimiunlc it front bloal-- is tim opplirnlion :uld in6n.lalion of massiru dnslx uf oxygen. Ilotte.t~el, I fouud u crrl:liu lolelzttion for Illiti gas in hunlon Doings. llelnils nl;ty bn fotlnd ill 1113' uhelrnttllnd ill Illrsludy. Iaiut- inaliou nF this inllulod poi.von, Iu rrstorc normnl utelu6olisnl, is a pivol.al reqnitrwent. 1.et nm conclude Lhis }ntrt by 6rie/1y anstverin~, 16o so oflen nsked quosl.ion :"\V6y do people swoke?" '1'he nnstvet ls 1,iven ill 16e sLud.y, bnt uot in ILc ahsl.ruct. I'eople slnoke I1ceAuse of t.hn ui:oC.ino cmttcnt of Ike lohnrco tinlola.. 'I'lle proof of t.6is? No ol.6cr knrbc ;uo smoltrA. Nirnlioa is un ullc:tloitl. 1YIICn it gols ilda the bluod~an;uu ;Is il. donv Iptie.ldy n.fler smoko is inhnleil, it. 6as Lho ell'rr6 of rrlr:lsinyg j/iorpkrien iulo Ille bluoJane~m. IspinolIhritn, :Il.o rnlled mlren- ine, is s potve.r[td hornmue prodnced by Illn mltruol l,~kwds, Inrlled ove.r LLo kidneys. A:piuep6riuo nlso nc.ts on thc licer und ol.hnr Lissue.v t.o rolollso fuol sugnrs tol.o Ilto binodsl.rc;uu. 'Pheso fool sugar5, tcltcu burned by oxygen nt tlto Uo«ly's cells, produce energy, oItic6 i, needed to live Itnd work. The repott. of Ihe tiurgeon (ieneral sprvtks :Ilnnll, it. on pn o 70, s le;tkin;,* also nbonL mulon monoxide. IS'itlt a 6iR~t degree of proh;tl>ilil.y, t6e roloase nf 16eso Illrl su~*;trs inlo tlln LlonJst.lr+:uu is 1.6o rcu~on a-hy people solnkc, 'I'llis gitt:ti lho snlolmr, a satisfying effect.. Tllrt urqo to slnoko ia a Jenuutd for these fnel sugltr.s, realized by the a.ul.roomic netvous systcw. llt tonlrnst'l t.o Lhe volmttnly systc/n tllo autounntic nervous sys(eut conl rols t-hase endocriue secrotions. ~nch inlpulsrs to etnoko colno luore oflen in sedentary occupntion.s, duo I.o possibly elonred-donn-even sloggis6--~ Llootl citcltlation. T6etefore, lt delie.iency of 16o.sn fuel sogrs ill Ihe blood IR \'ely pl:111s1Ille, prod m+iog ;t I ired frelinl,. I Gure, i I,e delnan:l for It lift, n sI.inuJxnt. 1SIrt lo re:tlly enjoy snt6 :m rll'erL of sliluullt- Lion, a. mmII6er of rnwlil.iolls umnt exlsL llere nrn nuly sowv uf /6rso condil.iuns: '1'6o ndtr.n:tl gle.nd~ 1unsL Ilrodnre opineplnine :n1d releasn il. 'I'Ime f(wl sn:urs IueJ 6r al 1ian.1 ~n 11,. c, _., I ~I , , .

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266 CICAII6°I"I'I{ LAInSLINI; AN11 AIK'PIIYI'IFINC ID65 releasell. 9'hrre uulsl.l)e enoul;ll usygon in LLe Llood In burn the fnel sn~ors into energy. . Ilolcovrr, I.Ixssn :n'o unly Suwc of Ihe orcessnry conditions. If ono u f I llr,o rnndil ions is luin~w~, 1 Le, rll'ecL uf li ft nnd sl imldal,iou e:mont. Ltkn lrlurc. I1. dlw's nnl. lake plnro always, eveo wlrr.o f he. emnkrl', nut; ut' Itis pasl. nxpericurr, Lelirvrs il dnrs. '1'tn di/l'rrenco lirs in the es~Irr.lod cll'ecl. vernos Iho real olfrrl.. IJsun.lly and phtusibly, a smlonlaty occupat.ion is nc.cmnpanied by slowel-down blood r.ircnln.lion and eonsequently n rtlai.niu Oxygen dolicinnc.y. O.ey~on is indispe.usnLlc forlifu aud it.lnny bn saill: ' In`ss nxy~;eo, Icss lifc. Sluokink brinRre cnrbon ulmtosidn into fhe blood- sl.rennl, just Itt Ilw tiuro when mure oxygen is needod. Tllis is tlte roasou n'1Ly evcrsmoking co.nnolhe.lp, Lnt has a lllalt'e5sln},r e/fect. 1(ut, lehnt is ovelslnol:int,r( 111nuy l.itnes we Leor t.lln a,llnonit.ion In sleol<o nlodcratf:ly. 1Vhat is Illir+ looderntion9 Whnt, is tneaut by it/lorul.inn tn smokinK9 l lo+v durs il. +vurkZ 11orv docs rnle gpet nms- sivo duses of ovyl;e.n inlo Ihn LInu1lSl.rcow'6 Should fillm tlp ciga- rollrs Ix: I tuol<ad'? llo+v tnatu}'? Zha'o are mltny nther vel.y imporl;tnt rynestions tlmt will arise. So are ooslvenal in tlto al/itr.6rd :thslaItr.tl tnore in (Jto stndy it.sclf. Yerroit. nte notv tn go In thn proloesed le~ltilnt.ion. 1I.1(. 3014, introdnred by Ite Irruul ntive Rogers, cited as the "Gnd- ern.l L'ignrcldo Lnbeling und At~vellisinR Act.," and prac.ticnlly ide,nti- aat 11.1%. -Illlli, iulrndluved IN , y Repravenlotive Nelsen, cilod as the "Fellerll Ciz;nrollr. I.abnlink nwl :\dvnrtising Ar.t.." 1. Yrrlnit nto to su~~ost t6xt nJiLd is a no+v point (r.), +vltic.L rnnds: rPne yirLLl or nicutine, Inrs, nud nu'6un mmaoxi:le gas iu (LC xmoke of ono cmnkhlgunlt c:~nlnined in Lhe P:n:l<nFO ''. 'I`6urn Itlsu::houlll bn Ihe fulla+v innnddil iuu:tl language: Alsn lu 6n PriNrJ in Ihr xmnc wnunrr :u'o +rLnlevnr nJdilivns ud/kvl In Ike ucnmfnrl uriul; pmrexn I.o ihr unl W':ll lodr,a-ro: r.;;.. menlhol, nnd/ur inln Ihr LnJ) of Ihu anmkiW; uuil. nr inln Ikr lillrr ~d u lillrr lin 'i{;nrrIle, or riRnr .eil.h Lu1Jrr, nud Ihr YlrIJS nf nluh adrlilivca in Ihcsmukc ol' uuc.,mokiu/: m:il.. 11' luhurn lu rulJ lunuc In u pnrW:gi~. Ihe sunir )'Irld.v Lrr ( nlu:,P :d wrl/:ht murvt bc PriutoJ uu Illc Parlc,ar. ludirul iuun runrarning Ihc:+e ylclrlx wunt. Lc Iha n:YnIC uf nt.:uuklrll (rulleg meihala luld Ret forlh In cunuuon denoudunlnee, ns 1'vl;ulntrd by the Fcdet'ul'Irnde Unnnnissinu, nM1ich Is eutrnalad wlln enfun'ruwnt of ua. ar.t- ]tonsou A. Cnrbon Inoaoside, gas is gr+netn.led in the Lutning of tnLnc.+n, nv in olLet incuwplnl.e 1owhusl.ion nf or~anin mttlcri;tla L9n.s Rus is It ltigllly danl;uruos puisuu. For dolltils Its to t.his pnlnt, plr'nmn sce lutge 2, pnint 2, of the enrloss.d ubstnwt. PoLlic. Idlent.ion sholdd bn direrAell t.n this inLnled pnison in the sntokinR ln'onnss. There also shnnld lle ado<ptn.tn inforuud.inn nbonl. how to elunitntt.e ILis gas from 16e blornlt;l.realn_ '1'here nro no o1.Ler tnewls or ntltidol.es 16an I.he xl/plical,ioo Of utxc5ive, doses of oxygen. Ifowevur, in lho future, cm'lain chenlicnls way 1x+:lddrd to In6w'ru ut lu Ihe liller of :t liller I ip cignrel Ie..ahirh nmy rednre-mld even elim- innle--t.l)e ctfLnn lunenxide nonlont nf 1.6c lol:arro xlnnke. 'PLc 1mMin sltould be in fornrd u6ool. I Lis nud :tbuut I.Le, evcolual sido nlfeel s of all additives. R. 'I'lln ulenlLol xddil.ive so fnr hns prur.t.ically esrat lad public n.llen- I iun. 1t. is sn.~pected uf Ix,in~ aonl her bmIlen for en.r/~iavacr.ul:n Imlc- ('IaAIU.T'rbl I.Anb:LIN17 ANU AuvL:n'1'1ti1N(; 1nG5 267 I iuus. IL secnls I o Im It urseless laftvlen. 1'eopln do nolt wnoke hw'aose, nf mlnl.llul. I'vnldo smoku unll' lLer:wse. uf Ihn nivnlinow rnuleul nf ILe inlLarru smuko. 'Plln 1'noliul; t~oo:atiotl of ineul6ol in luhnrru::ulnke i~ iuclp;lnnticn:nulnol rrnl. tilu:lirsondkno+elr,IRe.:IhMd.lhnulrnlhal :Iddililnalld ilscll'e.rlv+r6rn il. renn6rs16eldolxl,vI.rvnnl dimrlly Illrnnp,r6 Ihe lougs ame srarr:e mld insoliicieot l0 1xrwit a Iln:tl dacidiou lo Iw eeae.llett. U. IYhen Illo sntnker btqs a tobuaw prodoct., Ile slloldd Ixa given It qoir.Ic o.nd simplo orirolnlion nbout t6o yleld or uir.olinn, lars, eltrbnn ulnnoside, and +vlmtevcr alldil.ives Itro inlrodaced into tho ntdlunl to- Irarco-sper.llie,nllylhr.slnukninonelmit.ofsurhprndnrt 't'6esmolur Aold hava -Ile Is enlilluJ lo Imve--nn oplwrltulity lo evx.loaln nnd dirm.t Itis snukiug and hiv r.onsmuplinn of all IuLncco xwolu. rmu- I,onrnln, p:trl.ionlurly Lllnsu +vllinh ne uosions llnd parl ield:uly I llose in Int;el' r)onnl itins. St.nJlrn nud liloraloro nrnilaLln todny nnll:r, il. vtry dillicoll, lo dn- t orwitw connlnsively qnnntit.ntivn dntn ns t.tt the rontponvnls of Itd,arr+l smolm. Avaiktblo dld:t v;ny sidely. 1'Ir.asc scc pe~e 6 nnd pnint 4 of Ille enclosed ahvtlnet.; seu also LLe tYlport lo t.he 51u'geon (ieucral, I,nre G/). uf nl:unl- .As ~;latrd eurlirr, iudie:tlions us smlt;ltt rooslA hr Ihe resnllt nnl Ira inq nxLho:ls und sLttell in rotomnn deunmioslnr". 'Chrre mmt hn rlilti'rrnli:dinn bol+ceen "yirld" nnd "ullsnrpliun" in Ihe I,ntnnn llnd\''s nir Inlssn11ts. ^. 1'ormil. mo Illsn lu qoRgrsl. Ilml. (.6c prolwswl wnruinq (sec. 71(a) I tha.l. "nig:tretle smnkinl,r Inny be dangerous to hrnlt:L" Ix+ pnslponn/l, prndinC I he. recnlis nf snrh'~etiled nelv reseornlt, as e.iled on Ingo 11i, ilart. I II, of Ihe rnrlnwed n6:arnct- Or, iho new bill nhollld have f.uIlily roough (olnJ<e. inlnar.rrnulli rrsltll:rof nesr, fldltrc rr"enrrllI llousun: Sllnuhl I6e, snp(grsled rrsnnPC.h cnulitm el'rorrwI Illo, nule:l nLvcr+ul inu~, f 6n Inhrlinf! nn ci;;anIle pnrI<alms rnlllll 61vn I the. fnllu+t- IIIg IeSI: \\'aruiu:; -Citnn'rIlr Rnlukiut; IUny I[e Unnlaruus In Tunr Ilrallh. Spmkinl; Xnl. (lv,e 1_" /aqarelleu Prr Ilny Nnp Ilwim'c'1'hls Ilrallll Ilnzurd 11'Lrn P:wr- r'isin-, Ilnily for 411 BlimMes brisk +vnikiuR) In Prr.L Air fu Ihc Irxil 1+PneIIP o( Ine lemra. - 11'itlt ynur ronsent., tlto Lill 11.It. 4314, I.)to su.ow plnvisionv :u'n sng hrr;tnll ns IlLOsn +vlli:dt have llmn arillcn tln+v. llolvevrr, wn.y I usk Illntlllislext.beinrur,m'stledinl' /iv.rornrll. (nnsirlrrinl; t6a hill I I.lt.`S31N, ~ntrnrhlrcd h(: Ilepnuululive l lrlnll. I:erulil. Inn lo sup(I;rvl, in ierurltur:d) iulo it tllry h:lwn alrr:ulv Inrnl iunr:l prnvisious---uo ow.l.tm Ivllo will Ixlnntfuslnd +vdl) Ihr.cufnrromrot of t.lln flti nrn ln.lc. Utller infornlnlion for Lho snf;gested lop;islnlico ndJilinns luo ropre- seoled wxinlY by Ilu'eo ellnplers lo t6e following nllndhed nbslrnct rrf m+~ slurly: l~irrd, °Snluln:n;v of ReSnlliny/ Itrqnireme.lds'; sernnll, °tin,uu,nry nnd 1)etiuilions of Suggested New 12rvnnl'r6"; nnd, I6ird, "Ifemnrla nn,l tiu,rrrrsl.inns fur I'rnllinl! Legislal ian " '1'hlrnAn'e, 1 Pnlltillll'1' I III`ti HIIn11Lr!'9In IM Illlhol'tIIIIt. dlaS' I arvit IinllIhvsn rhnplrrs Ile put inlu /6e rrrnl if nnl. Ih: ahpl rnr.i. a. n rllnlc. I'ern+ilk mo. In ca.ll vlmri;J atlrnlinn nf Illiu rnunuillrn In 16e riled re. s/nra.h, :w:d a1rJ in I ho nll mIlrll nhsl rnrt on pat;c Ifi. 11 menns nulLin:; iro:,. W r lo...: r: I loul iinlrr' intn IVh: I,:hnrrn:n:I linrr1Ylirn Ilw

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231 CthAl13E7"I'r, 1.At1611IN(t ANn ADCF.n'rISINC-1965 TIr. I:cncNl'MeY. 11t is dillirulli for nln lo lutdtI:slnnd, Mr. Fuole, why ynlt lukc, Ihtd, pusilion. Yuu feel itt is Inurnlly tcraol; for nnyLnJy 10 achertisn ri{{:urltes -ycl, you say yon dn not npposo ILn advertisurg, if Illey Ivnldcl u~e It narninl±. AIt. Iruut'r:. I clunt, brlicvo in a prnLibilinu nr Ihc:nhtr/isint;, A9r. ICnruchny--il. dnr:,n'1. lit, my idea nf 6olv trc. run Illix cunnlry. I tlon't 16iuk Ihe umnufuclurcr sLuuld Im Inld Ln cnnnoll run nn Ittl. ltul I ll iulc tv6cn Ihere is a very alarming situal.ion lilce Ikis, I think tltnt it lustifiesspnrialcircwnslwtces. Ail'. I\ORNHnAY. Well, in /llller w/lills, ytnl 1)/'ll('ve in nhhrOnClllllh tlw problem--yau prrfer ti slotv clent6 rulltcr Ih:ul inslnntamenos deatlt, is Lknt. it 4 Afr. rc11, 16cro is (, .oin,+ lu Im uo iustaolaaoous dcldlle I l~oorle. 11 assure you. A1r. 1CunNNnAY. 111111 spenlcint* in tcrms nf conlin;, in willt n law and saying tknt:t henrefortil tald frum now on ei,r,urttes shall nott,n ad- vrrl isecl ml rnd int tclcvision, nnwspnpnrs, nla;,razines, nr nny ol hw wa Y, as opposrd lo Ihls I,nsiness of snyiag it. is nll ril;ltt to go nllea(1 Imd ndverl.lsc bld. ynn arc ~oint! In Llnr.ln nt;n xnrL Irr»IC ns nrc romplelely inconsistenl. wilk Ihe pri»ciple oE ndverlisin;,.-tLnt is prd.linl; ,ycur best fnot farw;ud. A1r. Tonrr.. 'I'lutt is rit+,6t., thnll is nm position. AVe don't IMlieve in u law o"liust ndvrrtix»ii.. \Vn Le.lime in a. In.tvtve Illiuk Iho s»tnlrnr shmtld knon tv6nt.lle is g_ el.lint; inta. 1tL. IConNrnnY. Thlll. is wh:d. I cnn't underst,wd. If yon think ri,ur.lles nre as bntl as yon scem In ILink Ihty are, or sny Ilmy nrn, :Ind nrn so delrimentnl to tkc henllh of 16is Nnl ion, tvhy nre yon not. up here nclvocnting noh only a bnn nn ndvrrliring bldnn tnnlcing it a crimi- nnl nlfrnsn lo huvr, pnssrss, emolcc, or trnnspnrtt rit,.:lrel.les? Afr. Ton~rm. ]lrcnnse 1 thinlc tltnt nln' libertirs lu'e Worth mom ILnn nnythinR else, nnd I think it, wotdcl be, an infrinfCement npon vilnl Amrricnn principles to have such law, :uld I tconld Lake t.llo shunp ngninst it. A4e. FAnNCI.un'. AVnuld 16eqrul-Icnunt yicld? I kren henrinl,+ ubonl: un-Anloricnn and invnsion of liberties to pro- h;6i1. cir~nrvltes. Illdttr. just. Rot Illrnu"h prn6i6iting goofbnlls. \Vere or un-Americlm and invnding Ille IiLort ics of people 4 TIt'. leunn:. No. llnnlst hnt-e Lnen, sir, thore acns nnunimnns tnali- cul opininu t.ltnt thrFr 6nd snlne ot.6or uffecf i don'I. know nbout. As T lmvn said 6eforr.. we tn'n tho ftrst to tonrelle tll:d Ihnre isn s»b- stnntinl mtmlrr of penple trho app;urnlly llnve no ill effects from slnokinl, ciCn.rettes, and tvo ILi»Ic Illnv shnnld ha nllowed to pmrhase the cig;u'cllrs rvithotti. hnrnssment. \1'e just I6inlc (ltnt, since Illern is a lnrt;o nwnher of pcopln, it ver.y Iar¢n nnudw,r, tllatC nre adversely ntl'rrlc0, tvc I hiulc they choubl 6ry pruls+rly o:nvccl. Afr. FAlINN1.P11'. I)IIYIorN prescribo I;o(fb;lll:: nll Iko lilno. Aro they ~ doinl/ solnethin(t tcrnn{,? ~ Afl'. Fuo'rla. I dun't. I:now nl>.ylhinq a6nut -nnfballs, sir, 1 nm sorr,y. Aft'. TCoaNt:nnt'. Now, Air. l~oolc, IvlInc nJ< yon 161sqncslton, nbout adl'arlisin,h. Ts it. not. ynur opinion Illnt, a vvlunint reqnirelnent, as a prac,t.icttl mnl lcr. is reully equivnlvntl to Ihe prnhihil ion of cigarette adverl.ising? Att. 1~ arrh. .As n prnrl icnl mnl.ler? I C».AIUTI'TPI 1.AItPndNt1 ANP Allt'Ullt't'IHl[<C -11165 235 Alr. 1CnnNeoAY. Yes. Notc, yun nrn a prnclicnl nnut, you have kn(1 prnctic:tl expmrinaco in Ihe :urca uf ndvnrlisin{;. .1 as~;mnr you not only Lnve tlrnwn 16e ads, yeu nol only haru sut;grsled uiull ou~Ll. to go in 16em, Lnl. you lotu.v business. You lutve, had a t!,rent dral of ux~mrinucc in practicnl urntletsof ndvcrlisinl;. 11U. Foorl;. I lhink dtn net oll'ecl., sir, would closely nlrprozimato a prohibil.ion of ndverlisinti. A'ir. IKt18NrA1AY. lll Olhel' words, if you ever in your experience Imfl a client wllo cnmo in nnd said, °Ah. Foole, I want to do some nnl iott:ll mlvel'llslll,, over 'l'V, I wnnl. Io rno one, of tLese prelly nds in l.ife nrnnziuc,~ w nny nlhrr »nl.iounl prriodirnl. Aflcr nsm}; Ille Irrms t6nl.lu'o t»ost favorablo Ior t.heir producls-und Utat is whaty they want to use, isn' it? Afr. Ftxrn;. Mr. ICmne;qny, getting back to your point, I tLink t6e net eRect, migltt approximatn tt_ Itut I think it is a very different principle. Alr. IConNtcnnx Itnrn yon evrr knd n» }ax,a .vho cotnes in mul wludrd to al}vetlise, firsl, slnle nll Ilin good qualities, lities, nppealing cllar- nnlnrislirs, and tlirn ,vlun rihLl. n4ml,r nnd sny hut. if yuu usrN tLcur, they rrill kill yon? Alr. l~nan:. 1 nrcer llnd such n client ; no, sir. Air. IConNCanY. And I Inmw yon tvonld nnver hare nne cithe.r. I)id ynu ever adverlise anylhing else in your expericnce ns an atdvnrl isinli mtul ur tls a prolmhnnd isl I hltt yuu folt was ntorally wrung? Afr. Fomw.. O/f6:uld, 1 cnnnot, renwmbnr il. I mm not soyull; nll nf roy ncJs .vrrn nwrully right 6y uny loemu. But 1 don't Iltinlc uf it offltand. A[r. KnnNennY. 1 tcns nsim" your ourds. A1r. GuOrv;. No. 11'hen I:ulrrrli,rd c.il;aretles, I ILou,flht.lhey trero grrnf. No, I don't Ihinl: I did,sir. AIr. RoltNer..tY. Sn Pigarcdtes :nn the onl,y ones ril{htt nnw? Alr. Fnu'rle. 'I'hn nnly ones I lulow uf in Ille history of our comltry. Air. KurNrso.tr. Now, Alr. Fuale,yun have uswl thn lil;ure, I beliete, 25(1,(/fNl dr:dlrv, this murninR.. I(1r. M nrrN. Yes, sir. Ait. Knl:v.:a,tv. ('a.nstd by rignrol/n snlokinj!. Afr. Fourr:. Rrsnll.ina frnul, 1:rndnre'l Iry, nlllibnlnhln lu. A1n Koltvr>.r,aYK ln o16tr tvurdti, if Ihr prople tlidn'I sulukn, if Illem tras on sl»okinfi of ei-,, nrelles iu I6is co' ,I ry, 16en 250,000 pcople taho die(1 in 1!I(DI trmild br licinl; nntv? Alr. Vonrh. Afy :Iw~uriales and I 6clim're il. is in th:tt, nni;;ldtorlluod, sir. Afr. KotcNlcn AY. You nlvn nurl nl6cr fip,mres, kave you »nl.? Alr. Ivourl". I usrtl ILe lip,mrn snpplicd by Illo 1/.ti. Publin llrnlllt Rc.rrirc, tchirlr /ilviu tci16111iv. Atr. KInlNr:anr. Ynn 6areouII Ilu.li;.om'oof I°5,(nNl,Inrrc.n'I 1'nu? Alr. P'i.,rr:. 1 did, ::ir. 6n1 iu ILi.: ,r::y. I::aid Ihal. Ilu rnnr,n ,vrec IWInvOt11 1(:.`.,IIINr nml 300,01m. Irl Iny Itv1illlully Irefore Ilrn tirnnln, I. snitl Alr. KnrrNrsn,tv. I'hat.isarighl l,rnndran-lc,isil.nol.? 141r. FINI'1N. lt is, Frr. Afr. Kun:vl:u.tY. A clill'cnurr of 1i: ,Iln(1, to bo malLrlun.lirally rur. rrct.

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244 CI(IAnN1"rk' LAnEJLINri AND Anl'hInTISINC-1DO5 Mr. 1'rolct,r,. Tlml. is au interesting ohso.rvul.ion of a former advcr- tisiu, tu:ut. l tTutnlcyon, Mr. (lhairman. The ('n:vuntnrr. llr. Carler? 11fr.(lAlrrrnt. P1r.Fuote,youhnvoheeuusuwl:er,I (a.ltoit. Air. Tborr:. Yes, sic 11Ir.Cwrrnat. Yonaronolongerasmolcm~a Mr.Foure. No,sir. Air. (;Atrrt;tr. I tcant to congratulnte yon on t.hat.. Y nu are ono of the firsl, scimttists who hns testified in 1;wor of Lhis hill lvho is uot n smolrer. Mr.FoaeM. Pirstofnll,I.amnotnscicnkist. Pfr. ('utrx:n. }lrel I, lirst man, lve vvill say. lt is rather tunazutg to me Lhal, ul mnny men in faror of labcling hnvo appeared hetro and testilied to tlte danCrnls of stnolcinq nnd yet, whnu aslce,d, they say, Ihe,y admit thnt. Ihey still use tobacco. Mr. h'orvre. W ho is that 4 Mr. CAnrEn. Some of tho scientists. Mr. Foarr. I stu. Tlr. CAnran. 5omo of Ihr, scientists who have appened Lent-and adntit tltey s(ill nse tobaa~n. 17te rocord lc ill show tlml.. Air. Irnarm. Ycs, IlrnolY. Afr. (lntrrr:n. Now, I jnst wantcd lu correctd one stnlement, which I mado nlvhilo ago, nnd that. was fn t:ho ellerk, that 18,749 peo ile in lho Tlniled State.c dle of (:n.neet of tLo hroncLns and lungs. 'I'~tat is not necVc5asily from Ihe uso of tobncco. lVe know ILat many o1Ler things cause c:ulcet of tllo lang-inhalal.iort of polhded air, for instance. And in fact., the only ealncer which has 6cen experimentally prodnced in tLe Lml,rs of (ntimals luls been eaused by uarnuzed 1!asolino, t he.lieve, and nlher suhslnnr:us. It hns never hrrot prodneod by t.obaceo smoke. Is IhntI not cm'rent.? Plr. Fonrre. 1Vc11, ~.ir, Lhal, is.vhnt 1 hud hivl.rd. As ynn know I nut nola scientist, nld I dnn't prnyme to nch like onn. T3nt. I ondersinnd thnt, is Irite. Mr. CAnrFat. Thnnk you very kindly. That. is all. 'PhnCunutnrnN. Air. Itoonoy4 11f r. Rooanrc. I have oue bricf quesl.ion, M r. Foote. A4ide from Ilm disunlinn,l.ion of propat;,wda nLold I:he ha2a.rds of smnlriny!, Lchnt n.m Il(n olher aims nr ub,lentives of your mganizationl 11f r. i'unilr.. Well, shnuld I rend Ihetn to ynu 9 Mr. linoxrsY. No; overu.ll, gonetally, give its a general description of what tho InteraRcuey Conncil nn Smokiul±:md llealth actnally drM,s, benidus rlinsenlinntAt prupngnntla n6rndl the hnnaads of stnolring. Air. Foortt. Woll, Inr exnmple, I.rcnt oul. tn Californiit alutot. 10 days nt!n lo nnnfe,r lvil.h Llhe Cnlifmrnia lnlernReno.y Council on Stnok- --i iog and I Innllh, nt t.hcir reqaesl. 11'e hnd ourt.ings in San Francisco ~ lutd Lns Angeles Iil talk n.bonL ltays nl' Rel[inl. ont, ednr,ntinnnl prn- O. (,.r:uus, tvlinl, vuhuderrs cnllld du, :t.il nnrls... )ou srr, thrro nro f!!/ 5101:0 ~ txv-nt;ency conncils.rhich a ro nnt. hoonJ lous by nny regnlation,but m ~ wn Lncn a knod workin~r ngrnnmmlt. ~ We nrn wnrlrinl; l;enerally, ttyiuz,r tn iniprnve t.ko lleallh of thh peo- 03 lllnbyrc.rlurinl~nil,n(rr.llnramsmnpl.ion. ~ ctnAnrrrrc t.Ama,trvu ANU AoeiutrtNtNC tors 215 Mr. 1ta,Nt.t-. You slxdrvl on.rlim Iha.tt you ngrccrl lvilli Il1e fllll that was snbmilled by Air. Rogers, I h(dievq «ith one excepl.inn-yon said it should extend into a(herltsinR, the coulaol nf Ihe trJevtslon snd ra.d io ad verl.isi nl; of ciga rc.l f os. TIr. Ftxrrn. I snid, sur, Lhnt. ltn disa;;rred on two comds. C)ne v:ae thn tvordin,q of ILo mcss:,ge, ntul Ihe second lras ILn far.t Ihat. as I rend Ihe hill it seeumd to prevent, t.llo Federal Trade Conuuission from tlninw nnylhrol;. Now, as we tried to tnako very clenr in this, tvo wotdd like CorlRm.ss to do the whole thing. 1fn1, it it doesn't, want to ncl. on adveti.ising, we hope it..con't pwss a 1 aw to stop t he F'1'('.. Air. ltwlNrY. As n former exe,nl.ivo nf ndverlisinl!, dnn't. ynn think the cigaretlo indnsla7, I:hn lohxr.ro indnsl.ry, has (louo an exanplcuy job nf pnlicingLheir olvn advertising in recoutt yetusl Plr.Ponrn. htwhatlvaypolic,ing tt,sir4 kfi. Rooxrn. Well, utiskmding ndverl.isinl,r, like Chnirmmn 1)ixon talked ahont. (hazylegs llirsclt sitting in the coliseum in California saying his nr,ury yfatrs of Rrr.d.unss in football. was (loo to smoking Winstmts or sonm ot.het cigarrlle. llon't yon thinlc by tlisconlinuing tha.l, form of ndvnrl.ising, by contribnl.itig millions of dollars lo tho Anlerirnn (luncer S(Aliet.y, don't. you think they Inavo (lOltn tln 1.%cep- t.ionnl job in this n:speutA PI r. Fr,ure.. 1 cnn nol: sn,V' Ilh n t T do, si r, no. Mr. 1ttxINFY. Nn flltther 1(llestdolts. '191e CnAntrcAN. Air. Callaway? ]Nr.CA1,r,AwnY. 'Chank you,Alr.Chairmnn. Air. Fntrrr:. I would like to ptusno (.lto advetLising factor a litl.le further. Snpposn I:hat. C7onqress should lwss smne sort, of law lehiclt would requiro lraruing in adcnrtisint, Iwd su[tpa~ro Il(at. trhnlW vou exlrncl: nilccrliamR, mihht. ha.ppen (lidd hnl,pnn, Ihnt fhe indnsl.t_v Jnst qait, nnJ Ihcrn nvrn nn cig:uelln a,lvnrl.isrme.nls of :wy kind. ln )uor opiniun whnt. lvould this Ivad lo in ree;ard 10 sn.lrs af cignrvIles in t.llifl cnt111t.r.y I Air. 1e(NnM. T iLink it would lead to a£nulnal rednal.ion, Mr. Calt- nAI n.y. We knmv 1.11111! in Ttnly,.rhron Ihern tvns u lusv, Iho kind lrn dnnit like, Ihnt banned ndvertisutg, sales which had heen increasing fi pmcent. n. ynn r in crr,nsed only 11/ perrmil. a year. lt. cerlninly .YOnld not le.nd G, nny quick drvuise nf this votyy hu'f{o indord.try. Mr.('.nra.AwAr. \Vael.hernsmm~n~pnric.ncoittf.n},Innd? Air. Forrrr. T(lon't Ileliovn Iho b:ut has yet. gone inlo olfncl. If it Las, it, hnstt't been long evouf;h lo prove nuylLtng. 1 Ihinlt it would bring ahnnt, a gradual neduclaon, nn(l I think it. would mnke 1.6e cvln- caiionnl nlfnrfs on smnkinl,* mnrn oReat-irc. Air. ('At,r.AWAY. My mnin cnncern, and 1Le nlnin ennrctIt nf most, of t.ha Memhers of (aongnNs.ti I ILtYe I.Llke/l to is Wtlll yo(ntg people. ~ViI1t ulder pcnpln I1(ny rnul I:Jcu tho.itchoirte. Now, trotdd you say Ihe lunjur leny tn gel nl. Ihr. pmhlrut lcilh vnmtt± peol,lo leoahl bn tLronhh n/IYertls111gnr IRIMInIl!, or lcnltkl I11c,y I,0V qon.lly unpurlnnt.? Plr. Ieani,. Nol: t.luonr±h htlx+ling, sir. T think tlts :t nund Ihln;, ,~. 6nrn il ~~n Ihc lnh,1 h'mm (,nr siondl,ninl. lhit. 1,lun t Ihiuk it.

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fWAnIi'I-rN I..AOFIIJNtl ANn AnYb:n'rl.`uNli 19rfi 257 `l.:)li CItLAIt1Yl'TPo LA I I411.INI7 ANII Ae1'barI'IttINC--In6R int; I1LCln I'ronl Illo I It\I---pldt inj; Ihent un 1 R111 cin'ds ft'omn tlln shrr.ts Ihat.vo ntndo ottr ohwrv:llions, rrrrmlinh I.Ilrul, nud evnhtn(in;; f.hrm; yes. I)r. I ftuumunrl n.ud i1ir./ isniinlu'l. DCe. iCunm,,aAV. ])r. linmmontl is nscoriatad with the Americn.n Canc.r.r Rnaio(y. 1)r. Auu:nnanlt. 1)r. I lamrnopd is; yrs, sir. T4n.ICrurNx:u:u. Jloisnotnmrdirnlllor.lot,baLnstntisl.icitnl,isl.hslt correcL$ "hr.AnRmracu. iiois:utopidrmiologi.vh;yes,sir. 11fr. KouNr,cAY. And ho is responsihle fot the stntist.ical nmllysis of the sl.udy. ])r.AlnonAnll. ]Ioisresponsihloforthat,yeR,sir. Mr. KoRNtalAV. Now, did yon peasonRlly obt.nin (lie smoking his- tmies of Illo tlead pe.rsons whi(rll you sl.ndied lil I)r.AuearnAan. No,sir,Ididnnt. Al l'. 1Cww wunr. 1'n rtlon ? l)r. A mKaen.u n l. I d i(Inot. ltll'. 1CI/RNIYiAY. l. IN111CYe 1)r. Itlnlmond did LhRt, or it wns doue uudnr his dirrel.ion mld snhcrvi:;inn, is I hnLrurrr,rl t l)r AnrlonACnt. Yes, sir. Mr. ]GalNr:anr. Now, yotr stadies dlaslt with nntopsy material. 1)r. Anr:Rnncu. Yes, sn. Atr. KuRNrerA.. 'I'hllt is to s'ly, Ihese teere tllo lungs from dend Iwo- plc, is Lh;tt right? ])r. Amamnc.u. YeV, sir. Atr. KonN1:r.Ar. Anrl }'oo rxonrlade.d thnt these r,hunges t.hn.t you fouuil in thece Imlkrs, 16n Imecnurrrous condilions, or elnmfm;;, would progress to a;ulcer on the basis of youl sLntlying f,ho langs of tllr_se dead prtlplo, is thn.l rurrecl.? 1 h. Anr.inser.u. Yos, sir. 11t1-. 1CURNUaAr. Is Ihadbnsed on thee nssmnption they oout.inttal smokinR, or tLnt 16oy stopped smnkint,r, nnd had thcy not died frolu OIIII1' (:ItIW`4'} ])r. AInansArm. 1t ivnothnscd ou .ulylhiu~rx<~eptobjcetivoobsnrvn- Lion ntndo. 1Vn hnd uo Imowlydj,ro of Idln r;nlolring hislory nt tho timo wo made ollr ohse.rva I.ions 111r. KultNKx:Ar. Nolv, t.6rse enses t.hnt. you rsnlninetl, nnrl some of whir.h you v6owetl hmn Isoday, t.hey were solcxtod by DI'. I]mmmond, is Llud. uol't'er,t-? I11'. Anr,uuAOli. 1Vell, Lhe y wem sclrclnd only after tho smoking his- t.orios were evnhmted. ]le only sclecl:ed - 1\Ir. KonNr:oAY. 'Flloy tvero srlrctnd nnd Lased on tllo suloking his- torins o1L i/`h hu twl lenl yd oll t hrse pulple. Dr. AumnnAr.lt }Vhinh hnrl been cullecl{al; yes, sir. ' Af r. KonNONnr. 1'VoII, ditl he get Ilu'su histories, if you knole,hofore or nftm'thcy iliod? Ih. Anwrnttou. '.I'he sntokinp 1tistorirs wulr, obinined nfUn lhc iudi- vidnnlsdie.cL A'f r. ICoR Nlnn A r. 1'atdon ? ]h. AuxatnAcir. 'I'hey .relm. ohlninoil uflur'lhe iudividunls died. I1L'. KonNr:onr. '1'hon you did not, ;,rr.l. Lhenl fionl the iudivirlaa.ls, but hronl ol her peolllr. Ilr Arriu:wn 'I'L"t'~.nntrfnanlL".nrn,.i..,Il:in Afr. KolttrxaAi'. Yon lrnnl: slidrv flnnl enc6 drnd person nnd e.anr inr+1 IhoraiJes,did V'oll nol? 1)r. AuFamnon. 'l`hnsl.udy tl'as tlone in t.hofollotving «'ny. I hnvo no lutolvledRn lvhrra Iheso slidrs cnnlep fronl. They «'rrn rmnuulwred. 9'hn nulopsy nuodur did no/t appear on theso slides. ''hn slides lcrre enndomizrd by n s)'slenl of numrrlcal rolalion. Ah'. 1CnttNUr..lc. Lrluln inlerru~ll )'na hrrr. I lid you po.rfnrul l hl, nldal ~sirs'. I/r. An.ans+rn. 'I'ho tndnllsirs trrre prrfornwd hy nly shttf. I did mdO por~om:llll, -_ Alr. KwtNRUAC. l litl ynu prrsumrlly pe.rform the antopsies? llr. Auv.nn.Arm. Nn. A) l'. 1COlINennr. Ilul. yun nrr. n pnlllolof{ist.. 1 h. .11mrmAcn. I nlp n. hni kolorlst. nnll rn.flnhln of (lolllt! tllelll. 11 r. KnnNRans. 'I'6ry prrfurmrd Ihr nldoltcies4 I lr. A n r.nn wn. 1'rs, si r. t11r. ICtntseu.lc. Alndr Ihn t:lidrw? 111'. AnEIntAnir. Nu. SVllnl. Iliry did was Ihic: 'I'6e mdupal, llns peliorntrd, Ihe Inu":: lcrre iull:tlrd rcil6 Lormnlin, Ihrt' lcerr srrllonwl. 'I'hrn Iho luut; lissuu ,c:tv sIripprtl n.lcay froln thr Lrlrhrobronrhinl 1 rrr, lnlrl Ihlyn wern Iltrn pul mlo holilrs, uml L'l19 slirlrs wcrre mndo f rml omh ol' I hrsr rni;es. NI I'. I\n1IN FIIA{". 1)IQ yOlt IIn1Icr Lho slides? I)r. Atnnntann. 'Pe.'6nici:In.vnmdolhnsliQrs. All'. Kaaxrunr. And Ihn lir>d.lhin;,ryon did in Iltis lcholnoprrnlion lane tn rx;nniun I hr slidrv a fl rr 16rc Ilad berm mitde. I)r. Aor=.Imnoll. Nn. t suporrisal Illn eulire prorrss. f,au~llt rrsidrnls holt to do Illn srdullslrs. Whrn fhe}' nrrr anpnblo of dnlnr~, thrm, 16ry tlid tllr.m by Ihrm=r.lvrs. 7 went over Ihnit deva'ild.ions. It is n.lil l l0 6iL lo011mr~h fol' onr- T6. 1CUnNt:a..r. \Vhnt dirl ynn nalnnlly dn 1'0nllsrlf, ill.~oLIr as Iheso onsr.;lhu.tynn hnvo (Ireu/drIl lo usheraoreconrorurds lht AuHamnon. AlI I did was oxnmine 208 slides tlt, Ihn Itej;inni fl'oln r:leh or Ihtse rnses, nod nver n. Ilrriod ~:I' litni ocrr n hunilretl Ihousnnd slides. Nfr. ICoIONI<aA r. ltulr in r+mnrcl inn lcltlt t llis sl ntl}.:Ind 1 hr rusre ynn prrsr.nlrrl lo ns Lntlny, yau esnnlined 1209 slidrs, is 16:t1 ri~hl a ])r. AurlmAtnl. 'Phnt's.l'il;hl. Afl'. K(nRNF.nAY. 'Pha limlmgs tutd stnlist.ics in ymv published rr.port nre nnl, bnsed oo Idw t,olnl nnmLer of slides lnndc ft'om nlI of t.hn cases, Lhmlf;h, nre Ihey? 14. A u.:msncll. Trom nll of llle cases used in l lle sl ndy. ltft'. I{OrINRtIAY. 1VP.IIt hlllIIIVy N'eJ'n se.Ierirll slidrs, lcrrn Lhr.y not.? 1)r. AuraneAt;n. No, sn'; Ihr, y Irrl'o not selrclyd. 'I'llrrn was :t drsign uf I kr nnll 1 ke slides tcrrr Inll. in rnorlnm onlrr Ly n tlrsign, us ix rvely sr,irall i/ir, sl udy. l1t r. 1ConNxnA r. 208? ])r. Aueros.nolc 208 in Ille first, two studies, and Ihen in snhsGiuent s6mlies 56 slides,so Ihnt..ve cn1.1d rlomorecnses. 11fh 1Cottxre.AY. 'I'hny lenrc nll thnslides denlin~.vil.h Ihrsr parl icnlnr rnsrs? .I)r. Auemen<vr. 7'hrro 11'err srceral slmlirs. f111n of Ihn slnrlirs in- cludrd 2°,00/1, lulnl}her sl.udy inrlndrd fl!1,I1o0 sli/lrs. 'fllrn:rw slnlisli- , 'iuns I, lin mvlrlrrtl rnn' Innlrri:tl fi~ll.lcrlmrl onq,lr mnlrrinl.

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O rn~ 0 tD 0 tD 8l1(1 ctanmEt^rle t.AUlsl.tcro .t.~u Aovt:IrrItilNt:-locs I snid in wy slnlewenf. Ilud, ndverl.i:;iug ix uu ussenLird enwnrerc.inl rihld. {Yhet6e'you do it. by preltibil.ion ur bv forc.ing Ilrn edverlisor to so sttd ti fy, uegld e, d isp:u'age trLat he is Lry i i ~ f; I o dn I s uot too w nelt dillereuL. ]n:my of Lhwe eveutsyuu ltut n Lusinessnuu tvho is spond- iug Lis umucy for ndtrorLisiug into :t, sil unl ion %% imre I Lhiuk his 'ud~.- mmtt must he "I cannot spend this t:ypn of money ndvertising it Ihis is l.lte kind of nd vc,rtising I nin goi ng t o h;tve to ltuve." You see, sir, a large ¢uwunt of mmmy spent in cousutna goods ad- verl.ising today, whether it is Utbucxio or any ol-Iter kind goes iulo netuorlc lelevisimt. T6is is tt tremendons tuctlinm for us afl. ]n Iele- visiou you have generally Lluee (.ypcs of comurerciul rwnuturennunus. 1Ve all sGtrted ont ilutinfly, I snppnse, wilh IIm CO second, wLirh w:ts l6e longest you had. This is wltatu you hod, G(1 secnnds, nnd I.hen ns the 'trosstn'o for Litne and tnentions nnd itupnls becnmc grt,;der, Illey go(. down to 30 sa;onds, now 2(1 se:onds, now 8 seronds or idenl.ificnlion ad-uations whicL you Lawe seeu ou televisinn. Lr 1.6e case of n cil;ttretto ue use lnls of Lho 8 scond, we nse lnts of llie twr.nl.ies and tLe sixties. I hnve uut, timed it, but. I wondet how mnny secou& tvotdd Le left in nn R-snroud or even in n 20-second spot. forsuyingyou will like Snlews if we.uutrLilr von 6nd In rend iuln Ihis sarne 8 srconrls t.he Innguage >,vLich hns Lern pruposed in the varinns bil ls I hnt ure here. 1 tltinL it woulrl tlesl.tYty tlrn need fur, Ihrn opporLUnity for, and Ilte rr.tson fnr our using this kinrl oF ndvortisinu, and when you Lngin de- sl.roying Llm value of it, I Lhinlc you rlestroy Ilte iulc,rest in or thee nsa felnrss of or the intent or desire of a waindncl.urer to pay for it. A f r. CA ra.Awn r. 'Phank yoty si t, A

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