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!A. LICi.aMCXc . I tkiak k* alrear saiQ tt did. What . j particular tsatwma of this aevertisia,C do voo acaa+ercbar, it there at* aM ttAt .yaaa eaa tell us sbowt, that att*etad you ip thts eo-ntinuatioR or your awicitc Caaslat swell, aAe. or tbta was their advortiseti.at of the T-IdaO , and afl Irrii.ati2a af the thicvat'. 4 (Ey Xr. aictxsro$soa) Aad aUt Ws.ye that sw irritatianT ~ No irritatioo oi, ths thrast, aM then their a4vtrtisiag of the doctors, they have tb*p ta ae.y Ltat Cam3s were good fgr #ou aaa that they ssfokee ttem lor yasra.. 'Ihat xas swttlf it. ro ru recall amy other .dvartiisipg vit3i refor.ace ta the psraob ttat sa*lc+or4 ciL'srettes t A 4h, e-+trta.iair _,. MR, COBtiXXs tib,f ect*d t* aS prsUpties tbe tritsaaW saod itaditx. lR. f•1CHAh..SUs I rtill Witmr.aw "he qtlestioiR.: Tel1 us about anything sox* thst you ean thiik of about / tbit adver,tisiag #hst,#ax'2uencs6. lrou, ii' It did„ ~to +eOUtilktie t3sr sm3king oi' Cameis. .. . . . . . . .. , . . . ,, . . ~ .-~. ~ICB~3;S041 , 60shw," Mr.. S*Wes:. M. COMA: 1nes I object to tt* tiuostloa tor 0s reason that it aaaums . tbat w' wa* ao InTluiuccll .. gscast_.._, net... YX. L©wgtk*11,, trier. W tasx1aaAiahs .lroi+t ath%atea, ar4 naturslir aporsoa troUld as.sume if 4m athlete swked a ci&sr- -11- LA : o~ 0

/ atte aAd it Youlde't hurt Aia, M~i T©u could do the aam. Mh, X3StJc t I sNve that the latter part of that aasver begianing with =natwrali,r one would asause,'` W so rQrtb be stricken as not rarsDoASiee to the question oni beiag argumntative. Q. XR. CODURNs I join in tbe Wtion. Tid you t1rax an,y conclusion 3rvursell trox this advertis- iuY toaccruiug the nusber of coctors that axzke6 Caml cigarettcs, aarS the Drofeasional xen, aurA thg sthletes, what craclusian, it aqY, did you dMW fr= th3as t*8tiWnlalsp XA. (;:3g3:A: I vb;,ect to that as cal3.in& l'or a conela- sion s" D*t a states+eat of facts. §Qi. 1"iGWcfS: k: 1'Qu said you t-auLed to atriice the f ~ssuaptiots. RoY did it eirect you, wbateid lrou think sbt>ut thl.s &6yertisisZ,.vtst did St bare to do witb ;Four t,D»tiauiag to so*ke - Ca~9tl. Cigtl.TStEgo! ~.~. C;)BVAXs Sam obaection, saze reasan. !R. RYCHAMOpt Ao sbead, Xr. 3.out. --- fR. l.WX t T he peraaA would . . ~ ..._ . ; . . . . . .. .. . . . .. . . . ._ . . _ .,..: - c~ i~3 ,v u4t a pearaon, what wouldit do to you so t'ar as you were ccncrrrufd! : Ln ~ so Iar as 2wwr con- _._...; ~, cerr~r¢ l bad the i?~a that ssrskiag cigarettes, *sp+Qcia21y Cassarls, were t*t tsarmNl to you. v -22- (risausoire of!' tr.e x+sc0rd. o! N I co + 1.

4 ltr. Loxe, 4e ioa r.cail any .4vertiairi,g of Caeei ciCarett.s a. ap to tbe time of your operation reiaticg to tu»c auch Camis, or btir taV C&M1S you eaald anvks u you p2easvd, do rou reeocabtr any alvertising of that sort4 M. CODUrNs 2 object to that as 1raAin& the witn+rss, proaptiuS bint. 1 2'er, I reareydber reuliqg -- #4 tell, lot ur ask yvu this questi.on, Just a slautt, Xr. Mwe, t*a you raca.ll any other sef•ertisire of Camtl ci,tarettes prior to l~3-`,;0, other tbm what you hrsYe tole us about? A Yaa. VU-t was that? A That you eouht sao-ka aa saq,t Camo2s as you Yanted to, Lhat thay wer* not harasttst aad --~ kel 1, Z cou2eA• t eow ri&t out am tr21 you wozo Zor wore vtsat the ae.ert-ie+ement was, but that Weat the subotsnce Ol it. q Ane 1 iave a,eke4 you other queB tlons about your reliance upon that ib cGritanuing to amoke Camtl cfCarcttee. i.ct ~ac ask you this, did that advertiaing that you vEntion" about a=kir.tr aa outh as ycu wni;ed, d3O ihat h4ve Sr4 ei'tett tsposi yout M! COXIMINt Cbjacw to also as oalling #or a cQncluaioa tm not a•utatemnt of tart ftom the Mitaess. ~t. 11I0A,iUPSORt 00 ahead* Mr.. 1+tpwe. PW,,., LOit$t Yea. t In xlat wey -diA it influtnre yon, it it 6141

tiR. COMP.lts bam obJection, sam reason. w- ti.Il, the fact that tbl7 •aiR I*ould snoke u awql as I wrnteQ to. I never paid uy atteatioa to how smyF cigarrrttes I saoked, I nerer once gave it a tbougbt that tbrY aEr. hsrSdag .re an!!, wll, Uaturally, Ijust relsxeR anA nQver gave it another thWught : vt Fid you at any time up until the titae of your operation, Mr. iove, 4116 you at any tiae have any fcaoxledge that cigarettes were harning you in .my vay! por, ot eours*, geatisroen, I aiean we would have to haYe a fauneatioa laid for thst • questiop b7 proper evidence, but Zwront hin to answer that queation on the assu~ption that we uill have other sYldence that they will Da bsryeftl. Nou, kr. Loue, just 1isten to the question met nor+s. Tid you barre.aM authority ur knowledge prior to your operation that the ssokiag of +Coaarl cigarettes were baivftl to you in, aV wayT , 1! Xo, I diWt. #M.AICl31R"Us On the rc E ord I u i 2l a alr that I Mi l1 agres that that particular question W answer would Lt isproper un)eas ttia foundation wera laid tor it that the sinkiug of cXzvettes Kou.ld be harat'u1. ~ {By ". pichardsan) what 4ortor +did you first tonsult coneerning the illness tTu<t led up to your operation? AThe first doctor i went to was a comparV, doctor, 4 U2uat was his Aana!

A I ean't thiatc or his naw ao+r. 1W is tbere on Qraod , it.row, but I isrtaialy tanit thiNc of it. *I Aod diQ you snbseQuwatly see ftater Yraakliot A Ye$. 1n! You subsequeatly went to Aettisb Qospitslt A Us. MR. PICUidNSOY s I tAinic that is wll. CAtASB•=KIriA7ION BY MR. CODtMt ~ ir. iowe, ttbsrs trare you born? A Pahpra, !ti ss vuri . (Rxscassion ort the recO". ) ~q 1tcrn, you say tbat rm wert born In Talqra, do you msIw rIA.ht In ths tosA ot ralx7ra, or out In tAo tauatr,v1 A out In tha couatry, -but, you know, right tberrt In tbat towt~ahip. , ,~ Y*.. Soa tar out ot r..uwrat A It Was aboUt, Well, us I rasomber it w*s about tour ailes* it A oyou ws re born on a#`arm! A A imat was the year ot your birtht lgly. ~ xvr, +dia you continue to Uve tbere la tha asa* piaeer where yau oers born for som.e tiart

A t think we iirsd there wntil 2 was srounA three years old, ae~' ~rcil as I t~.c.~rr.. i ~ !sd ttwrr wbrrr did you .ovst A t'be 3'olgs rored to 1mraoA, ~'.issourl. 4 zs that nesr palmyrat A les. .: In the sam county? A Ies. r~ Trid you :3ove right iato the toxn Of 1"mraoa, or. .gaias : A On a tam twrar. on a tsru near Xrarsvn? A Kczw big a town ia Emrsop? Just ~ groGerlr stora aaA a blaokaoitb sbop, 4 HW big a town is -lslrqrrst A A Pslayra has iround F,044 population. M*; how lons fiid. toU lirt on this tars msr gmarrsoat: Two years, Owt. ~ And then wbaM didYft l1wr! ,t - ' Tten we seat rigbt into rimrsan. You lived right there iu the trillaget Yes. 44 A A For how 3angt . For approxivately a par. Then rbort did you Cot 'R'ben 'iV went tO, ~ tarAl jit8t r1ght outolole UlWri. ~ 0 ~ 0 N ; N 0 xcsu livejs thss* for any cons3.aerable tivat N! ttp until, oh, I xouie say we was there sroumt4ur, or tite yEars* t»yU 1orRger. ,. : . 3

+~ ]iow ol+4 etort you tfh.n you left the ueighborbo" of talqnt A Lat sse oee, 2wouleI say 1 was around 18 ,irears 414, or 19, swthing like that, ~ You lelt there then In about 193) or 1934? A ?es. ~ Is that ri6htt A .-'Yes, that In right. 1'ou heoe told u.s about thia tarn that you nare4 to outsiea of tolyra •ittr 1Quu hM lived at ir'aserssA, rid yrou staYe aMaherc else atLer you lived tbers, but whi).+r you were still living !n the aeighborhooJ ox TaisKyrst A Yes, ~a,3slt right izto talyra. ~ Right In the torn fli' Palqr-a, did you? A Ye.. JW hw loqg oid you iire ttero, until you csso to Saint *o, we c4m: fron ftl%Wra down to Crystal City.am Festus. I s+ao. ' H.*,x long tlid you live them e In Palvyrat I think 3 casys to Crystal City In 1.936, 3,an not sura. lhat Would be appraxisAtely the tire. ~ lAd Whtn di'd you m*ve into Paltwra, the tmn ofPRlayra, - abo3tt how long eid you live there ta suti'ieient! . A Vc x1, I would say right 3u thEr town would be about two years 2vaulA sar, stMUos liks that. o i o a Ln 1 o; N ' S R W E

q ito*r, ltr. Low, bow far eliA tou V tArwgb scboolt ~ Tbe eiahtb gr.!te. + ~( AM wbare At!4 you attenA scbool'tbrongb grMe sabool? A A little sehool ea11ed G4k l+tfAp, it is a county sebrool. (A hrief rirCtss xas taken for the aenefit of the xst~ess.~ 4 - You say yau went to scbool in this little eountry sehool, was !t in 4ak itift.t A Ya. +~ Out in the couAtrtt A Countrir, q Im3.e yoru 6o through there through all si.CAt of t3W VSftst 1, Tbt*ugh aii eight of the grwes, aad I starteA into higb schsol 'xben I got to Poljptra, aaA I AiAn* t finish tt, I quit, about the A3,dRio ef the first 3*eLr. Q Nol/ old were you 'M'hen you finished scboolT .1 Let as see, I think I*st arou413, 14„ somt6inS like tbat. norr, 0i'@ you 00 ari ttork up therre, #tr. iOae, aroun4 FaiWa, btfore you _cam dma to C3rystal City? A yea, I rrorksd. for a while tor a levee builQiny group, that was only stouit six wontha. I forget what the coepxrw*a name was. 4j Voit& tibrk on arivar laesee! . .. . o : . o 'A Yet. And then I xarkele at Wttcy, -I11iAois on the Oovern- o -wEFttt Zo Cki thele. ~ vbat kis~!- ot noxk tras it *m the aEvee, jwst ordinary labor-

in6 work? ~ Spotti.n,g did you' ssy? A 4 8pottfae on the 1s"e. { Tes; -3roa spot Wtisr+ tDsT iratild duqp the dirt 'asa +tvtrythia,g. AM what lciW of wrox'k over at the lock! 1 CsrpeAtar•s belper, ~ Jny atber kise ot Mork theu ao tbe 'lockt ~ t3h, yes, Xr4n a pf l*,&rirar, , thiags Iika 'that,' ' ttoriced in, ttae Rtchira shop. : . A went Aotca 'to t`rlstal City to iivet it was s1sKSst riniswo that is the lotks part of it. 4 A uatter of a year? 2.rould say. It kasn't a lnrar. 4 A doea that cotrer all of the Kork 3rotE Nov long aid you Say 1au kotlcsd on the loek? ~ e11, Iwtsu2en't kuva Just ssttl,y, I'Worksd th*xG until # 'Zt was +6lose'to s y~tar tad You do aV work " a patster'ovesr 'oA thc iock? xoo. Y'Qu oId sIt tto arqr work of that kiw y *o,." batyavt d id t*iore Xes, 'ye s. .s tio, it, doasat t ei tber; Iwas 'in tha eCC CaV. ~j ya1i ~ w$re? ' 4 At Wtat ' t iM ~ Pir . LAtre! ~ ~ ssu ia in 1935 1 t*ltevO, S was iin eas*a about stx slintts. ~ Wharo ras tt:atf.: A that ras st AYhwy, ..lg~

' ~israuri. ~ And wbst lcirA of w*rY di!d you e!o tberet A ftes posts. .ghat was sllT A Yes. Q mow, Xr. Lom, what waa your rather!a namt A ~ tra. M!4 is be still livingt A lio. :; Uben 616 he -Alet A Z soulAn't tell VM exsstly w hen be aied, 1941 I'be li.ve. vivmf . A He 41ee at Tal.wrs, Pass©ur1, whet was tbar VaUse of his death? . W. RiCttt~,~."~+SONs xfm, wait a ssiaute, Kr. Loxe. Of course, I object to that questisa on the grcFund that this witoeur has not t"a qutlitiea to testif`y eoacrcrafng the cau" of his tstber•a -0eathe an. COMM it . ts s.+s'ked as amattcr af.rs$i ly history, of toursl. W. laCar=OX s xt calis t'cr hearsay evI#3cnee tt+a, Ond h~ bss nflt tern quanfio to eiwose the csust oC eeatb. oo aba.a aM answer the qaestioa, 3f ym can, aul~jcct to mW *bjettion. A Uv1'i, as x821 aes I kncv frost xbat they tell sw, be diea of caneer. \ ~ Of utat part of tbe baQyT A -Gt thre pancrsas. -g- ~ 0 0 ~ 0 N ~ A