Philip Morris
7th Meta Meeting 900207 Minutes
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5. Secretary's Repurt
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C~o/Vcce 14'03. fo .
It was appreciated that this would be a regular item at each META
Meeting. In the interregnum of Secretaries, Rothmans as Chair Company
reported that considerable activity had taken place In META, most
importantly that:-
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(a) Scientific visits had been made to the Middle East and that some
success had been recorded in changing the requirements of SAS0.
(b) A new Secretary was in the process of being appointed for META,
after an extensive search.
(c) Considerable efforts had been made in order to improve the
communication between companies, particularly with regard to the
taxation issue,
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In general, there had been increasing co-operation between companies, and
progress on several fronts had been made. This was due to the efforts
put in by each and every company.
6. ~Scientific--Matters.
(a) Visits
Mr. gymondreparted upon the extensive visits that have taken p'ace
by scientists in the period from the last META Meeting.
The most significant meeting had been with SASO. In
interpretation of this meeting, Mr. Dymond reported on the key
matters as follows:-
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{i) Levels of Additive
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Mr. Dynmond felt that it was possible that we would have to
consider 15%, although the 15% was difficult to define. it
was stressed, however, that we should try and make the matter
as flexible as possible, since more additives would be
necessary with reducing T/N levels, and it was also important
that one kept the level of additives as flexible as possible
in order to protect product development.
(ii) Filter Efficiency
More information was being provided to SAW, although Mr.
Dymond felt that a concession might have to be made on this
point. Again, it was a difficult area on which to be
specific.
(i i i ) Lead and Cadmi ua
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Progress had been made on this point, and Mr. Dymond was
hopeful that this item could be taken out or related to
smok e.
(iv) i?ensity
He hoped the Industry would carry their point on this matter.
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There was some hope that we would get this requirement r1j
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Other visits had taken place as follows. In January, Mr. Dymond
and Mr. Cumming had visited SASO and been enthusiastically received
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They had also visited the Saudi Arabian laboratory who were
proposing to do a survey of the Saudi Arabia market for tar and
nicotine. The laboratory propose to write to distributors in
February. The laboratory had requested whether the Industry would
be prepared to give financial support, and had mentioned a
conditioning cabinet (approximate cost £10,a00), and a machine to
measure carbon monoxide.
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A meeting had also taken place with the Arab Standard Metrology
Organisation in Jordan. However, they were moving office and it
was felt that we should make no further efforts to get close to
them until their position and influence was clearer. A watching
brief would meanwhile be maintained.
In resultant discussion of the matter, it was agreed that:-
(a) Continuing contact should be kept with SASfl. To this end, a
further meeting of scientists was to be held in Cologne on
March 15th, and sc~i~e -sts..;wou~.d~re-v.i s~it-, Saudi ,:Arabf a--i n
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(b) Each conpany would prepare a list of brands to ensure that
they were happy with T/N levels.
(c) BAT would co-ordinate an update of information on brands
other than those produced by the Members of META, so as to be
ready for the Saudi Arabian initiatives.
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(d) The policy towards ,MM would be considered by the scientists
meeting on March 16th and the next Meeting of META, dependent
upon the results of the survey of other cornpanies' tar and
nicotine levels.
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(e) it was resolved that the META Members would contribute
towards providing a conditioning cabinet in the laboratory in
Saudi Arabia, but not a machine to measure carbon monoxide.
Timing of such an offer would be left to the discretion of
the negotiators.
ACTION: All Conpanies
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(b) Maximu® Constituent Level
In discussion on the BAT Paper on this matter, it was resolved
that:
(i) This issue was broader than pure scientists' consideration,
thus the meeting on March 16th in Cologne would be expanded
to Include public affairs representatives, and possibly other
disciplines such as legal.
(ii) Philip Morris felt that the issue of maximum constituent
levels initiated from a legal standpoint. Tri ey would
therefore produce a Paper on this subject.
(iii) It was hoped that as a result of the deliberations at the
meeting in Cologne on March 16th, a Paper on the subject
would be produced for discussion at the next META Meeting.
Mr. Robin Allen would co-ordinate.
Brown & Williamson would consider whether they wished to send
a scientist to this meeting.
ACTItkI: Philip Morris, Robin Allen and
all conpanies
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