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Comments on the Gulf Standard - Cigarettes

Date: 15 Feb 1988
Length: 5 pages
2501077217-2501077221
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Cumming, E.M.
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2501077213/2501077229
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REPT, REPORT, OTHER
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BODER,JEAN-BERNARD/STORAGE BAYS
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E4
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Stmn/R2-038
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Iso
Saso
Tc
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2501077000/2501077266/Gcc Standards
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2501077213/7229

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DRAPT COMMENTS ON THE GULF ST11NpARD__- CIGARF.'1-TES General SASO should he asked 1.E they would cnonsid_r su!-,mitting this rc ISO/TC 126 Tobacco arnd Tobacoo Prociur.:ts for inclugican in thAi.r programme of work. Some of the confusi.on in thi s document tstPms frotu inar.iQquatc translation. Unlike the 'decree' situation in the matter of taxation, health warnings and smoke data, this don,zment may be like others somr.- times circulated by Natzonal Standard OrgRnisation5 in which the content can be changed by sensible and constructive commeni-.ing. Specif ic-Calttments i- 3 No problem hut ecsuld he improved by using ISO layout and r3afinitionA. 4 Char.acteris4 i.cs It may be possible to persuac3e them to have a gAneral $tatement on Quality si nae thcre arP .eversi statemnrits which avery respectablc manufacturer would wish to comply with anyway. Taking each poirit in turn, however: 4.1 Add the word ' ac1:i ve' in f ront of moulds. Ar2d ' ot non- plant materials' not covcrHCi under 4.23. 4.2 A more gcnera 1, statcment, P.q. 'should be frr.e trom inFestation'. 4.3 Far more definition anrd detail would bc required. Thi•i is a desirad quality tdctor by manufantUrcrs. Commnrc.ial considerai-i on9 alona would c.liminatc brands of PooY qua l i t.y . 2501077217
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2. 4.4, 1 Better split into two statements: 'The burning of paper and tobacco ahall ba homngpnµvus' - a dcsi n 1imiL t' a ~on - - - g which may no t. he bcnci i c:ial to Lhe consumer. ( Retttove ~ statement?). ' Ember shall not be Pasily snparatcd from the rigarnr.•Ze duririq burning' - tatj,8 is a tlurmn i qudlity requi rpment; LOr i t to bc Rper,•ificcl would require a detdiled method. 4-S Thts is adesign limitar.i.on to the detriment of nanL- facturer nnd costsumer. 4.6 Manufacturing impossibility to guarantee width of all tobacco pieces within the cigarette. Even if it wr,:z possible, it•h would limit manufacturers ability to ituurnvn thc physic:~1 and smok,ing properties of the produc+t. 4.7 Any limitations wout_d be to the dutriment nf the consnmer anQ manufacLurer. Unrea 1 irstic dautr.tnd - f.i rlNg leve1 its dcpendent an Lobacco type. Limi.tation heyond qua.tity considerations would inhibit blend design. For quality Gonsidarations a suitable tcst method would have to be clrZrly defined. (Not aware of any suitablv+ pror.edurc:s ) . 4.9 Possible translation problem. Limitations in the use of expanded tobacco and all tobacco sheet, however, would bc detrimental to the connumer by not allowing the manu- facr•urer to improvc t.hr qualiLy and tasLe of the products. 4.10 May be a translation problem here since all manufacLurers wish to ensure product quality. However, if there is to he a limitation On gluc •free ar•cas, this could be det_rimentsl to product dPnign, i_n. Prevcntinq ventilation and coolintl. 4.11 Would suggest using the ISO standard methoa. Like many of these statements manufacturers limit end Zoss for qua 1 ity reasona. The 1 imit mcn t: i.Uned in the draf L, however, is totslly uiu•aalistic nsin=•7 tha TSO procwclitre. (58 mn be a(.-ceptablm as a limit). 2501077218
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3. 4.12 Unrealistic - induxt ry uAaS papers up Lo 10t -any limiLaLion would be dr.i:rimental to the consumer and considararion of 4.4. 4-1:1 Deeign limitation against, consumers interetst ~ Marketing? 4.14 PraciaP test method would bc nccdcd since t:ab.zccA i.ndustry methods vary. If definition was 15% as 'water', this may be dc:c_eptable. Lower 1.imit of 10!~ may also be o.k. but may limiL product quality. 4.15 Providing ISO mcthod.; are used these limitations may be acc:Hfst<tble. However, we fccl it is unncccssary and it may limit product c3evelopznent. 4.16 Ditto 4.15. 4.17 Totally unrealial.ic 1«,vHl. - ncfrmttl range 1-5t. Would also rPquiro dctziZcd meLhod Lo be spccilied. 4.18 Undesirable design limitation to dat.rimenl. ol- t:hH consumer. 4.19 Limi.t set too low rot Contor1ndtic:u - batch mean of 20, say, may be accapr.ahla. 4.20 Zndividuai ciyarette weights could vmry; 15% mnrr raal.istic. Batch means oL 20 may bc ac:ccptablc. 4.21 Thifi would limit design OplionS or ciqarcttcu to the detriment of the consumAr. 4.22 Unusual statemPnt whi ch may hc a translation error. Cigarette draw rnGiAtance is an important quality charactPrintic for mannfac-t"r.er.s and the subject of an ISO stlndard. nn uppcr limiL could be set but the figures in t.he standard are Loo low Cor high quality prnducts.
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9. 4.23 May be o.k. (Product Dcvclopmcnt/Markcting commcnt!). 4.24 The industry vic'N will be intcresting here. It udoes not posc a major thrcat to REL zincc we currcntly have to be care£ul in the Us and German markeLs. Gonsignment testinq could, however, be very expensive. 4.25 Impossible to meet. Naturally occurring Cadmium 0.5 - 3.5 pg/cig, 3vc~r.3gn . ahci3t' 1. Q }ig/ci g. t.PSC7 A- 23 pg/cig, average about 10 ug/cig. 4.26 Reword. The rollowing charac:Lerislics of cigareLte smrkc analysed to ISO procedures shall be; 4.26/3 O.k. (nacrwa) J f)afinttions should be ~ 4.26/2 O.k. (Decree) J clarified. 4.26/3 By moisture they must mean water (translation?). However, 0.5 mg/cig is impossible. Uh Goveriunent wuuld c:uucut' that levels up to 5.0 mg are quite normal. 4.26/4 No available ISO standard here - level too low. Could point out that HCN is found in some food stuffs as well. BurZey tobs.ccos will be hiqher than Flue Cured. , 4.26/5 There is an ISO sLandard here and suggest fiqures ara quoted in mg/cig. Limit of 15 mg/cig would be rcalistic here! 5. Would suggest that SASO consult ISO for guidance here. Consignment sampling is certainly a matter for SASO but we feel the figures in the draft standar2l necd clarifying. Since the draft standard contains a very comprehcnsive test'.tng ragima, T woulci Auggest a Sampl0 size of 1,200 from selec_ted contailiers, i.e. 400 for the 3 groups listed. 6. O.k. 7. Slight editinq perhaps. (Translation!).
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8.8 1 8.9 1 Comm9nts from Marke-Fing! 9. Transportation and Storaae Totally ridiculous buL may bc duc to tranzlation. Thc:.c conditions comply to 130 3401, i.e. Standard Atmoaphcre for Tesring. TherPforP T suggest- that. thPy wish to use these c:onditiona Lot Smoke d11ci PhyyiCa1 TasLit]g Whic:h i5 very $ensibZe. $.M. Ct7MMING emc/fap 15.2.$8

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