Philip Morris
Middle East Visit Concerning Cigarette Gulf Standards
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- Author
- Bourlas, M.C.
- Area
- BODER,JEAN-BERNARD/STORAGE BAYS
- Type
- MEMO, MEMORANDUM
- Attachment
- 2501077026/2501077028
- Named Person
- Alameddine
- Alturki
- Ambar, A.
- B, M.C.
- Badralsaad
- Dymond, H.
- Maraafi
- Narma
- Nassif, G.
- Recipient (Organization)
- Ftr, Fabriques De Tabac Reunies S.A.
- Document File
- 2501077000/2501077266/Gcc Standards
- Author (Organization)
- Ftr, Fabriques De Tabac Reunies S.A.
- Request
- Stmn/R2-038
- Litigation
- Stmn/Produced
- Site
- E4
- Named Organization
- Bat, British American Tobacco
- Coresta, Coresta
- Iso
- Lgc
- Meta
- Pmi, Philip Morris International
- Saso
- Technical Comm
- Arab Standards Org
- Date Loaded
- 05 Jun 1998
- UCSF Legacy ID
- adb29e00
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F.T.R. RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
CH - 2003 NEUCHATEL / SWITZERLAND
INTER - OFFICE CORRESPONDENCE
To: The File Date: December 21, 1989
From: M.C. Bourlas Doc name:
Subject: Middle East Visit concerning Cigarette Gulf Standards
Distribution:
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A delegation representing META composed of George Nassif, Harry Dymond of BAT
and myself visited SASO in Riyadh and the Arab Standards Organization in Amman,
Jordan, in order to discuss the cigarette standards that each organization has
prepared.
In SASO the delegation met with Messrs. Badr-Al-Saad, Al-Turki and A. Ambar.
There were five main issues that were discussed during the course of the
meeting.
1. Additives
SASO maintained but not too adamantly, that a 15 % additives limit is
sufficient. They would be willing to go to 20 % if appropriate
information and references are sent to them. MCB and H. Dymond to
prepare appropriate information which will be sent by the end of
January.
Note. From a PM point of view a 15 % limit on additives would not put
us in a difficult position on any of our brands at any smoke delivery.
We would prefer to have 20 % limit, however, due to any unforeseeable
changes in cigarette construction or smoke delivery systems which may
be developed in the future.
2. Lead and cadmium.
SASO has accepted the proposal to define the levels of lead and
cadmium in smoke and not in tobacco leaf. They have in principle
accepted a one microgram level for smoke. MCB and H. Dymond to send
additional references pertaining to the levels of lead and cadmium in
cigarette smoke.
3. Cigarette paper weight.
It is no longer a point of contention. SASO is willing to define paper
weight as it is done in the paper industry. MCB and H. Dymond to send
ISO references.
4. Cigarette tobacco density
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SASO had no concrete explanatiP as to why and how they chose a
cigarette density of 0.2 gr/cm as a target. It was pointed out to
them that there are products on today's market that are far below this

density. MCB and H. Dymond to send actual values and additional
information concerning cigarette tobacco density.
5. Filtration efficiency
SASO does not have a clear understanding of the meaning and the
influence of filtration efficiency. Where they got the limit of 35 %
filtration efficiency is a mystery to everyone. We discussed for quite
some time the available mechanisms that the cigarette industry has at
its disposal for the reduction of tar delivery. Among them being the
efficiency of the filter. Whether our arguments were understood was
not very clear but MCB and H. Dymond will prepare and send to SASO the
filtration efficiencies of a number of European and US brands which
are currently sold on the Saudi Arabian market.
6. Hydrogen cyanide
A level of 250 micrograms per cigarette has been suggested by SASO as
a limit for HCN. When we argued that there is no international
standard for the determination of HCN, SASO produced a VTT analytical
method which they would like to adopt as the Gulf Standard for the
testing of HCN. We explained to SASO that all industry members have a
means of or determining HCN but that there are slight variations from
method to method and because of these variations there would always be
some discussion if there were differences in the analytical results.
SASO, however, was relatively firm that they would like to utilize the
VTT method and would probably maintain the proposed limit of 250
micrograms per cigarette.
Note. Although the limit of 250 micrograms per cigarette is not of
particular concern at the 12 mg tar delivery the idea of having a gas
phase component like HCN be mentioned in the standard is of some
concern. This may lead to and open up the doors for additional gas
phase components which SASO would like tested and of greater concern
is the possibility of the levels of these gas phase components being
required to be printed on the pack, as is tar and nicotine. I saw no
hope in changing SASO's mind on this particular issue.
The above are the six main issues that were discussed with SASO personnel. All
information and data that were promised to SASO will be sent to them before the
end of January in a document prepared jointly by MCB and H. Dymond. We will give
the opportunity for other META members to comment as we have organized a META
meeting in Rome on January 25, 1990.
Following the discussions with SASO we travelled to and met with Mr. Narma and
Mr. Alameddine of the Arab Standards Organization in Amman, Jordan. The
organization itself (personnel and documentation) was in the middle of a move
from Amman to Bagdad. We were informed that the Arab Standards Organization has
been officially disbanded but will resurface again either under the same name or
with a new name and possibly under a new minister. It is not even certain
whether or not the organization will remain in Bagdad or whether it will later
be moved to Tunis.
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Nevertheless, discussions took place which focused on how the Arab Standards
Organization has worked in the past and how it hopes to work in the future. In
principle the organization works in a very similar fashion to ISO with which it
has very close ties. In other words, the Arab Standards Organization writes and
distributes to other Arab countries standards which are discussed technically
and later voted on and distributed as "Arab standards". Seven member states are
included on the Technical Committee (participating members) and two are
so-called observer members. As in ISO, there also exists a group of countries
which are corresponding members and these members can get updated information
concerning the status of specific standards. The group suggested, and we
accepted that META become corresponding members and thus remain updated on their
activities.
Note. My suggestion is not only to have META become a corresponding members but
to have Philip Morris as a Company also achieve that status. We could thus
respond on any issues as a Company and not have to worry about going through
META.
Following the discussions with the Arab Standards Organization George Nassif and
I travelled to Kuwait to discuss topics of interest with Mrs. Maraafi. The
discussions focused on an update of the CORESTA and ISO standards on cigarette
testing that were unanimously approved in Cuba and what steps these standards
will take in the future. I promised Mrs. Maraafi that I would send her a copy of
what will be sent to SASO and also promised her that I will send the address of
the Swiss government chemist in Lausanne in case she needs some independent
testing to be done. She currently does all independent testing with the LGC in
London. Mrs. Maraafi, as usual, was extremely cordial and promised to assist us
in any way that she can in our efforts to convince SASO that cigarette standards
are to be realistic, reasonable and practical.
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