Philip Morris
Exhibit 18 471 Witness Mauri Hannu Kulo
Fields
- Author
- Kulo, M.H.
- Liljestrom
- Sivenius
- Attachment
- 2501070290/2501070700
- Area
- LEGAL DEPT/EEMA ARCHIVE
- Type
- TRAN, TRANSCRIPT
- Site
- E35
- Request
- Stmn/Rl-002
- Stmn/R1-028
- Named Organization
- Black Decker
- Jokela Shoe Factory
- Jokelan Kenkatehdas Oy
- Named Person
- Aho, P.K.
- Liljestrom
- Litigation
- Stmn/Produced
- Master ID
- 2501070290/0700
- 2501070290
- 2501070290A-0293 Plaintiff Pensioner Pentti Kalevi Aho, Tampere, Represented As Before by Professor Erkki Aurejarvi and Attorney Juha Sivenius Defendants Suomen Tupakka Oy, Helsinki Represented As Before by Attorney Robert Liljestrim Oy Rettig Ab, Espoo, Represented As Before by Attorney Mikko Tulokas S 88/1623 Claim of Damage
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- 2501070670 Aho / Suomen Tupakka and Rettig, Testimonies
- 2501070671
- 2501070672 Pentti Aho / Suomen Tupakka Oy Ja Oy Rettig Ab
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Exhibit 18 * 471
Witness Mauri Hannu Kulo
Chairman Are you acquainted with Pentti Kalevi Aho?
Kulo No, I am not. +
Liljestrom I ask the witness to briefly state his own
occupational history and education.
Kulo I have a degree from a business institute. 1
Jokelan Kenkatehdas Oy (Jokela Shoe Factory Ltd)
where Aho worked, is a shoe manufacturer founded
in 1945 by my mother's father. Aho worked at the
plant in the 1950's. I started to work there full
time in 1970. From 1979 to 1988 I was the managing
director.
We are mainly interested in the time period when
Aho worked at the Jokela Shoe Factory. What were
the working conditions? Do you have information
about that?
Of course
I
cannot
have
completely
accurate
information. In* the 1950's my uncle was the
technical director at the factory. I have talked
with him some more about the working conditions and
about the task that Aho performed.
Can you tell us what kind of work Aho did at the
Jokela Shoe Factory in the 1950's?
It consisted of an operation kind of like edge
trimming. Making the sole of a shoe was done so
that at first the sole was cut from rubber into a
so called blank which was the right size for that
shoe. After that it was Aho's job with a kind of a
trimming machine to trim off the excess from the
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edge after the sole was attached to the shoe. It
was done on a, it is like an emery stone but the
stone is very small in size, and the stone rotates
fast and it had a steering table and it removes the
excess against the stone. The operation naturally
produces dust as the excess is removed.
Liljestrom What type of dust and other things are produced? Do
glues and other substances burn during that
operation?
Kulo There is a so called vacuum cleaner which draws
dust away from this station, but of course as the
stone is turning very fast and creates a draft, it
does not necessarily remove all of it. The stone
rotates pretty fast and some of the material burns
at the same time. A little bit of smoke comes up in
the,air. I am talking about the rubber burning
slightly. The sole [is] glued, the trade name is
quick glue, it of course heats up the glued seam
somewhat. And the dust collector that is attached
was then and still is such that it blows the
exhaust air back into the room and not outside
through the ventilation system. In a way similar to
a home vacuum cleaner. The particles remain inside
the machine. If any fumes are produced, they
reenter the room air.
Liljestrom What type of quick glues were used those days?
According to my memory, the glues and solvents of
that period often used toluene for instance. Is
that true?
Kulo occupational safety increased a great deal in the
1970's and my knowledge is more from that [period].
At that time more and more attention was drawn to
vapors from solvents. At least in the 1970's the
mixes began to change quite a bit. Solvents, such
as glue thinners, were altered. Can you then draw
the conclusion that they were more hazardous to the
health before then. The fact is that the sole of a
shoe is attached the same way even today. Both the

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shoe and the sole are brushed with the glue. Both
are allowed to dry completely.-After that heat is
used to reactivate the glue and [the parts] are
pressed together. I may be presuming somewhat but
at least in the 1950's and to some degree in the
1960's the sole gluing [attaching the sole?] [was
such that] the vapors from the solvents evaporated
pretty freely into the air. Whereas the gluing
station, where the gluing of the shoes took place,
has always been ventilated. They sometimes also
lifted the soles two meters up to dry.
Liljestrom That did not quite answer my question as to what
substances? Did they contain toluene?
Kulo Well, I was trying to answer. Occupational safety
increased in the 1970's, and toluene was one of the
substances whose elimination from these thinners
was clearly a goal. I don't know if you can then
equate that with the conclusion that there was
toluene earlier; its elimination was a goal.
Liljestrom I have received access to some correspondence,
inspection records and other documents from the
occupational safety inspections conducted at Jokela
Shoe Factory. There seem to be continuous
complaints about ventilation, glues, thinners and
solvents. Is this typical of the industry or was
Jokela Shoe Factory an exception?
Kulo It is very typical of the industry because there is
continuous involvement with glues and finishing
agents that contain solvents.
Liljestrom As shoes, heels and other things are being sanded
and you said that all kinds of matter comes off,
then is it safe to say that the work was so dirty
that the dirt also stuck to the worker?
Kulo That is unfortunately the case.
Liljestrom I have seen somewhere that you had stated that

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these edge trimmers were about like chimney sweeps
at the end of the day?
Kulo That is just so. It was because the normal
revolution speed of a edge trimming machine blade
is 15,000 revolutions per minute. It causes such a
whirlwind that even with a powerful suction, it
gets things going in such a way that you cannot
avoid having that powder fly on yourself.
Liljestrom Do you use a Black and Decker? I myself like to use
a Black and Decker.
Kulo A power drill? ~
Liljestrom Or a sanding machine. If you compare to one of
these 5,000 revolution machines of today, what is
the edge trimming machine like?
Kulo It is a lot faster than that.
Liljestrom How about the effect? I am usually dusty when I
sand.
Kulo That is a little difficult to compare because the
operation is different but let us say that a normal
edge trimmer, when it was used, the first job was
always a little like that.
Sivenius Did I understand correctly that this same method
in this operation was in use from the 1950's until
1988?
Kulo This edge trimming was in use until the beginning
of the 1970's.
Sivenius After that it changed?
Kulo After that it changed in such a way that the shoe
manufacturer gets the soles finished, completely
measured to size.

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The shoe manufacturer subcontracts them from a sole
manufacturer. The sole manufacturer still does the
edge trimming, but not the shoe manufacturer who
buys them as finished components.
Sivenius Attorney Liljestrom referred to some letters from
occupational safety officials. Do you know whether
this method, this operation was actually prohibited
for health reasons?
Kulo The shoe factory has several such operations. They
were not prohibited but the officials requested
that improvements be adopted. Reducing the dust or
odor problems. _
Sivenius I ask that you briefly explain what improvements
were made in this operation?
Kulo This operation that we are now discussing, it came
to an end at the beginning of the 1970's. In a way
the problems ended then.
Sivenius You can not remember what possible improvements
were made during the time when Aho worked there?
Kulo No, I don't.
Sivenius Do you know whether former employees of Jokela Shoe
Factory, or perhaps current employees, have had an
exceptionally high incidence of cancer of the
respiratory organs?
Kulo I have.no knowledge of that.
Sivenius This subject was never discussed with the
occupational safety officials for instance?
Kulo No, it was not.
