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PRIVILIGED AND CONFIDENTIAL
ATTORNEY'S WORK PRODUCT
February 25, 1989
ASIA ETS CONSULTANTS PROJECT
I. Thailand
A. Professor Malinee Wongphanich, M.D.
Occupational Health Department
Faculty of Public Health
Mahidol University
Current President, Asian Association of
Occupational Health (AAOH)
George Leslie (GL) met with Dr. Malinee Wongphanich
(MW) on Monday, February 13 in Bangkok. According to GL,
she was very gracious and helpful. She provided him with
the names of certain scientists whom she recommended we see
in connection with the ETS Project. Most of these
individuals, however, are from countries that are not now
priority markets -- i.e., Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia.
ML agreed to serve on the technical committee for the
1990 Lisbon Conference on "Indoor Air Quality and
Ventilation in Warm Climates." The AAOH will be a joint
sponsor of the Lisbon Conference. MW began her three-year
term as President of the AAOH last November. At the
expiration of her term, MW will host in Bangkok a regional
conference (held once every three years) for which she asked
GL to organize a session on indoor air pollution.
MW informed GL of an upcoming conference in Thailand on
occupational health scheduled for the last week in May. It
will be attended by several Japanese and Australians.
In addition, ML mentioned a joint Thai-Austrian
conference this fall on air pollution and mass psychogenic
effects, which may be of substantial interest to us.
MW will be attending the WHO Occupational Health
meeting from April 17 to 21 in Geneva. There, MW will
introduce GL to the WHO Chairman for Occupational Health
from Japan and the ILO Chairman for Occupational Health from
Singapore.
Following the Geneva WHO meeting, GL invited MW to
London for a meeting of the Lisbon Conference technical
committee on April 24.
GL will copy me on a letter he is writing to MW
confirming the above.

MW also mentioned that the Secretary of the AAOH is a
deputy director of the Bangkok Metropolitan Authority. He
evidently wants to do some pollution monitoring in Bangkok.
They would need funding and equipment but could easily site
the equipment and furnish the labor. We may want to keep
this in mind for the longer term.
MW is an importnat contact for us to cultivate given
her regional stature and extensive network of friends in the
Asian scientific community. Assisting her also secures our
continued good relations with the AAOH.
II. The Philippines
A. The Manila Conference
The conference was the 11th National Congress of the
Philippine Occupational & Industrial Medical Association,
Inc. (POIMA). The theme of the conference was "Industrial
Peace Thru Occupational Health Care."
The conference resembled more a convention than a
scientific conference. It lasted for two days, during which
only a very few substantive presentations were made. None
of the topics were particularly rigorous, with the
exception of the presentation by Fengsheng He on
occupational solvents.
Included in the program were discussions of medical
services in small, medium and large industries, a report on
a Japanese workshop by Dr. Reverente, and other various
topics. GL and I spent all our time at the conference
meeting with Drs. Reverente and. He.
B. Dr. Beneto Reverente, Jr., M.D.
WHO Occupational Health Panel
Ex-President, AAOH (1.982-85)
Lecturer, University of the Philippines
Philippine Refining Co. (Unilever)
GL and I had a very productive meeting with Dr.
Reverente. He already is on the technical committee for the
Lisbon Conference. We discussed the ETS Project with him,
initially with an eye toward identifying others who might be
interested in the project. It became apparent in the course
of the conversation that Dr. Reverente himself was
interested in working with us. We discussed the issue of
ETS and health and gave him a literature packet. Neither GL
nor I has any serious doubt that Dr. Reverente ultimately
will join us. He will not be able to review the packet for
two weeks and then will require a week or two to review it

at his leisure. We informed him that we will pay his normal
consulting rate for the approximately two days that we
suggested will be necessary to digest the material fully.
Dr. Reverente will bill GL for his time.
When asked about others in the Philippines who might be
appropriate consultants, Dr. Reverente offered the name of a
friend, Professor Lina Somera of the College of Public
Health at the University of the Philippines. We were unable
to meet with her. However, Dr. Reverente seemed to have
little doubt that she would join us. He asked GL and me for
--,an extra copy of the literature packet to deliver to her and
he agreed to inform her t e nature of the project.
Both GL and I will follow up with letters.
Dr. Reverente is our most senior consultant to date.
He is clinically qualified and, more importantly, has more
connections throughout Asia and the rest of the world than
anyone else we saw. His English is, not surprisingly,
excellent and he has a serious though warm personality.
Excepting the fact that he is from the Philippines -- and
not, for example, Japan -- Dr. Reverente has all the
earmarks of a team leader for Asia.
C. Professor Fengsheng He
Director, Institute of Occupational Medicine
Chinese Academy of Preventive Medicine
Beijing
ARIA paid for Dr. He to attend the Manila Conference.
She does not know, however, the ultimate source of these
funds. Our discussions with Dr. He were limited to the
Lisbon Conference. We did not attempt to recruit her for
the ETS Project. According to GL, she is the most eminent
toxicologist in China and her published work is recognized
internationally. Dr. He is likely to become the next
President of the AAOH. Her current research focuses on
volatile vapors and is funded at least in part by the
petrochemical industry.
GL asked Dr. He to serve on the technical committee for
the Lisbon Conference. She agreed to do so. She is coming
to England for the 5th World Congress on Toxicology to be
held in Brighton in July, at which she will receive an award
and present a paper. She will stay on in London after the
conference to discuss the Lisbon meeting.
We will have to handle Dr. He carefully. For the mid
to long term, she is both an important avenue into the
scientific community in China and a key link to the AAOH
over the next 5 years.

D. Dr. Marilyn Go
Pediatrician
Manila
GL and I met Dr. Go s.erendipitously. She is the wife
of Dr. William Go, a surgeon at Valenzuela Hospital at which
GL has a contact. He brought his wife along out of the
belief that this project involved research in which she
might be interested. As a young surgeon, Dr. William Go is
quite busy and cannot spare any time for consulting. Hoping
not to disappoint us, he kindly offered the services of his
wife. We were not able to find out a great deal about her,
other than that she is a medically qualified pediatrician
with an interest in research. We gave her a copy of the ETS
packet and asked her to review it. GL and I will follow up
with letters.
Dr. Marilyn Go may be useful to us as a way to break
into the pediatrics community in Asia. She is quite young
and would not carry much weight herself. Although it
appears that we already have two high caliber consultants in
the Philippines, we perhaps should encourage her to attend a
pediatrics conference on our behalf and make some contacts.
III. Korea
A.
Dr. Jung Koo Roh
Director, Toxicology Research Center
KRICT
Deajeon
According to GL, Dr. Roh founded toxicology in Korea.
He runs a team of approximately 40 scientists at the only
contract toxicology center in Asia outside of Japan. He is
fairly young for this role. GL worked with Dr. Roh as a
U.N. sponsored scientist on loan to KRICT two years ago. As
a result, GL knows a number of the scientists at the
toxicology center in addition to Dr. Roh.
Although GL has said that Dr. Roh can be enigmatic at
times, our meeting with him went extremely well. As with
Dr. Reverente, Dr. Roh expressed a personal interest in
working with us, as well as a willingness to open other
Korean doors for us. We gave him a copy of the ETS packet
after discussing the issue in general. He will of course
review it but this should be no more than a formality. At
this stage, Dr. Roh is on the team. He also has agreed to
accompany us to meet with other Korean scientists on our
next trip, which should be invaluable. According to GL, Dr.
Roh knows all the major players in the medical-scientific
community in Korea.
Dr. Roh will be attending the Toxicology Congress in
Brighton in July.

Both GL and I will follow up with letters.
B. Dr. Kuy San Cho
Dean of Catholic University Medical School
Seoul
Dr. Cho was Vice-President of the AAOH during Dr.
Reverente's term. MW also mentioned Cho's name to GL.
Despite these personal introductions, Dr. Cho was a
reluctant conversationalist. GL tried to get him to join
the technical committee for the Lisbon Conference but Dr.
Cho was unenthused. He first questioned the value of a
conference devoted to indoor as opposed to outdoor air
pollution. Without directly declining the offer, he merely
said he would look for an alternative participant from the
medical school.
GL raised the issue of ETS but was met with little more
than a blank stare. Consequently, we did not press the
issue. We left on extremely cordial terms with Dr. Cho (he
insisted on paying for lunch) but did not get to first base
with him. GL will correspond with him concerning the Lisbon
Conference but he is out of the question as an ETS
consultant. Given that Dr. Roh should pave our way next
time, this should not present a problem.
IV.
Hong Kong
A. Dr. Alun McIntyre
Director, Consultants in Environmental
Sciences (Asia) Ltd. (CES)
We received Dr. Mclntyre's name from Professor Roger
Perry, with whom McIntyre studied at Imperial College.
Since last June, Dr. McIntyre has directed a consulting firm
consisting of four environmental scientists assisted by
about 20 engineers. CES is connected with Balfours
International (Asia).
Dr. McIntyre was quite friendly and responsive. We
discussed the ETS Project and in particular our desire to
recruit a number of consultants from different disciplines.
He is an expert on most kinds of pollution and has a special
interest in air pollution. After discussing the sources of
air pollution in Hong Kong and some of his upcoming
projects, I invited him to attend the ACVA Conference in
Hong Kong tentatively scheduled for April 14. He agreed to
do so.

Dr. McIntyre can be useful in our efforts to place ETS
in the larger context of indoor air pollution. As he
agreed, much of the indoor pollution in places like Hong
Kong comes from outside sources, notably from vehicle and
industrial emissions. He is well-spoken and may be able to
play an active role in the debate in Hong Kong.
Because he is not a health scientist °, we did not give
Dr. McIntyre the ETS packet. He showed us the proceedings
from the December Polmet 88 Conference on pollution in the
urban environment. We copied the relevant section on air
pollution from the table of contents. We have his CV and a
list of publications.
Dr. McIntyre's normal daily consulting fee is HK$800.
We should plan to compensate him for attending the ACVA
Converence, although I do not believe he expects to be
compensated. This should get our relationship off on a good
footing.
B. Dr. Sarah Liao
EHS Consultants Ltd.
Dr. McIntyre gave us the name of Dr. Liao, whom he
engages for some of his projects. She has a Ph.D. in
occupational health from the Department of Community
Medicine at the University of Hong Kong, where she continues
to lecture. She is also a close personal friend of Linda
Koo. Dr. Liao started her consulting firm last year and has
a staff of 5. GL and I had an extremely positive meeting
with her. Her current specialty is asbestos.
Interestingly, she is married to the Postmaster General in
Hong Kong and is presumably well-connected politically.
Dr. Liao has undertaken some office safety audits for
BAT in the past. She has declined offers to consult on
smoking ahd health, however, more for pragmatic than
philosophical reasons. Dr. Liao does work for both private
industry and government in Hong Kong and wants to retain
that balance. She appears to have great integrity and
objectivity as a scientist and criticizes the health lobby
for its inquisitorial tactics and scientific bias. Judith
Mackay is not objective and not credible, according to Dr.
Liao. She also stated that T.H. Lam, who co-authored the
COSH survey with Stuart Donnan^is a "jerk."
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Dr. Liao expressed the view that ETS may be a "contributing
factor" in lung cancer. She is willing, however, to examine
the issue on its merits. Given her specialty and her
practical aversion to tobacco-funded work, however, it is
unlikely that she can act as a consultant. At the same
time, I would not write her off completely. At the very
least, she can and has agreed to screen potential
candidates. In the virulently anti-smoking atmosphere

prevailing here, this is critical if we are to avoid
compromising the project.
Dr. Liao advised that in order to recruit high-level
scientists, the funding must come from industries in
addition to tobacco.
Dr. Liao has heard of ACVA and accepted our invitation
to attend the ACVA Conference. Her rate is the same as Dr.
Mclntyre's, HK$800 per day.
Both GL and I will follow up with letters. It will be
interesting to hear her views on ETS after she has read the
packet.
C.
Dr. Linda C. Koo
Department of Community Medicine
University of Hong Kong
GL and I met with Dr. Koo for over three hours. She
has an extremely attractive and sparkling personality and is
utterly Americanized. Dr. Koo spent 17 years in U.S.
schools, including Berkeley, where she received her Ph.D.
GL asked Dr. Koo to serve on the technical committee
for the Lisbon Conference and to give a paper, both of which
she agreed to do. Her current research focuses on oxides of
nitrogen and respiratory disease.
In the course of our conversation, we talked about
quite a few things. On the subject of lung cancer in
Chinese women, Dr. Koo believes it is principally caused by
dietary factors. Interestingly, Dr. Koo is finding that
light smokers have a lower risk of lung cancer than
never-smokers. GL confirmed that this result also has been
found by Richard Doll.
The only consistent results Dr. Koo has seen with
respect to ETS is an increased risk of infection in young
children. The illnesses that have been attributed to ETS
are, in her view, caused by cross-infection.
Dr. Koo talked of the "victimization" practiced by the
health lobby. In this environment, no one wants to stick
their neck out, and no scientist will accept money from the
tobacco industry. For these reasons, she does not believe
that an objective and positive debate on ETS is possible in
Hong Kong. Dr. Koo informed us that Judith Mackay is now
calling passive smoking "respiratory rape." What scientist
wants to aid and abet rape?

GL and I assured Dr. Koo that we did not wish to
estrange her further from the anti-smoking lobby. We did
ask her if she would be willing to talk to our consultants
about the epidemiology of ETS. They would benefit
enormously from her expertise. She indicated a willingness
to help us in a private capacity. We can follow this up
later and allow her an opportunity to back down if she
likes.
According to Dr. Liao, Dr. Koo has tenure. In the
context of discussing sexual discrimination in the
department, Dr. Koo noted that women like herself have not
been promoted.
GL is planning to arrange a dinner between Drs. Koo,
Liao and Francis Roe in April during the ACVA Conference.
Dr. Koo gave us the name of a consultant whom we may
wish to contact. Of course, we would not use her name.
Dr. S.Y. So
Rm. 603, Melbourne Plaza
33 Queen's Road Central
Hong Kong
Tel: 5-8453838
