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Phylis Small and Denise Fubini Individually and on Behalf of Others Similarly Situated, Plaintiffs, V. Lorillard Tobacco Company, Inc., Lorillard Inc., Loes Corp., Council for Tobacco Research - Usa, Inc. (Successor to Tobacco Industry Research Committee), and Tobacco Institute, Inc., Defendants Index No. 110949/96. Sharlene Hoberman and Audrey Hulse, As Executrix, on Behalf of the Estate of Lewis Hulse, Individually and on Behalf of Others Similarly Situated, Plaintiffs, V. Brown & Williamson Tobacco Corp., B.A.T. Industries P.L.C., Batus Inc., Batus Holdings, Inc., Council for Tobacco Research - Usa, Inc., ( Successor to Tobacco Industry Research Committee), and Tobacco Institute, Inc.,

Date: 04 Sep 1997
Length: 62 pages
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Brachtl, M.A.
Gullotta, F.
Mcdonnell, A.T.
Weil, J.G.
Type
DEPO, DEPOSITION, TRIAL TRANSCRIPT
Area
GULLOTTA,FRANK/OFFICE
Site
R840
Named Organization
American Psychiatric Assn
Apo, Arnold & Porter
Assn for Chemoreception Science
Bat Industries
Batus
Batus Holdings
Bw, Brown & Williamson
Ca State Univ Los Angeles
Ctr, Council for Tobacco Research
Dechert Price
FDA, Food and Drug Administration
Freshfields
Frieburg Ethics Commission
Ftc, Federal Trade Commission
Ftr, Fabriques De Tabac Reunies S.A.
Goodkind Labaton
Hunton Williams
Inbifo, Institut Fur Biologische Forschung
Intl Brain Research Org
Levin Fishbein
Loes
Lor, Lorillard
Los Angeles City College
Ns Klein Inst
Pol, Product Opinion Lab
RJR Nabisco
RJR, R.J.Reynolds
Sherman Sterling
Society for Neuroscience
Society for Psychophysiological Research
State Univ of Ny Albany
State Univ of Ny Buffalo
Technical Assessment Team
Technical Assistance Team
TI, Tobacco Inst
TIRC, Tobacco Industry Research Comm
Univ Hospital London
Univ of Nm
Va Commonwealth Univ
Amer, American Tobacco
Named Person
Arch, S.
Aubain, D.
Barnes
Bozarth, M.
Brachtl, M.A.
Brown, W.
Carchman
Charles, J.
Colavito, E.
Cox, R.
Davies
Davis, F.
Denoble, V.
Dunn, W.
Elisseou, G.
Ellis, C.
Frankovich, A.
Frosina, R.
Fubini, D.
Gay, E.
Gullotta, F.
Harkins
Hayes, C.
Hoberman, P.
Hoberman, S.
Hoskins, E.P.
Hoskins, M.A.
Hulse, A.
Hulse, L.
Jeltima, M.
Jenson, N.
Kinser, R.
Kobal, G.
Lajtha, A.
Lipowicz, P.
Mcdonnell, A.T.
Mcnazby
Murphy
Nixon, J.
Nunley
Opachensky, M.
Reed, J.
Ross, A.
Russell, M.
Ryan, F.J.
Sanders, T.
Schultz, C.J.
Seeman
Shaffer
Shub, J.
Small, P.
Surgeon General
Tamol, R.
Uydess
Weil, J.G.
Xxdoris
Zito, C.
Recipient (Organization)
Ny State Supreme Court Ny County
Author (Organization)
PM, Philip Morris
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CONF, CONFIDENTIAL
MARG, MARGINALIA
Litigation
Bcnj/Produced
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Marlboro
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Pa¢e 3 Pa6e 6 [ 1] SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK ( 1] IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRIGT COURT COUNTY OP NEW YORK FOR THE EASTERN D64PRICf OF PENNYYLVANIA (2] [21 [ 31 CATHERINE ZrT R HOBER= AN. x S [ 3] SEO and GEORGE ELI [4] LxdividuaRt, and ua behalf d x otlw u wtuued ( 41 STEVEN R. ARCH, M. .L. a ( SI o am ary i [s] Pl.+.tlf4, a Plfiatitti6 a t. a 6.Y AWo. No. [6] ., x Iodez No. ( 6] x 96-590}CN  11095296 THE AMERICAN TOBACCO COMPANY, x [ 71 THE AMERICAN TOBACCO COMPANY, a [7] et. .1., a INC., AMERICAN BRANDS, INC., x- x [ 8] COUNCIL FOR TOBACCO RESEARCH-USA,x ( S] Date.da.tb. x INC. (Successor to Tobueo x x [ 9] Indurtp Reua,ch Committee), a ( 9] AND TOBACCO INS'CITUTE, INC., x [10] [10] Defeadantt. x [11] x [71] [12] [121 (19] (1b1 ........................... ........................... [14] [14] DEPOSITION OP PRANK OULLOTrA, Ph.D. DEPOSli'ION OF FRANK OULLOTTA, PY.D. [151 ........................... [15] ........................... [16] [161 [171 [17] 1181 [18] ecpte.her 4, 1997 1191 Septembet 4, 1997 1191 [29 (201 Rica.n.$ Viaixia [21] Rkimu.d, Viqtaia [211 [22] (22] [23] [z31 [24] [u1 [25] Repaated by: Tanya L. Wood, RPR [25] Repoked by: Tanya L. Wood, RPR Paje 7 Pa{e a [ 1] Depodtbn uf FRANK OULLOTiA, Ph.D., [ 1] I N D E X [ 2] taksn by a.d beforo Tanya L. Wood, RPR, Notuy PubYe [ 2] DEPONENT [ 3] Ia a.d for the Coman.weattY of Virginia at IaRe, (3] PRANK OULLOTTA [ 4] P~~ M A.tlde 31 cf tie C1.R PlaGice Law a.d (4J ( 3] Rulet, and By NoNce to Taks Depaifinr: mr•.e.dn[ [ Sl e-•,,~e ~e~ B7: Pye [ 6] at 9:05 a.m., September 4, 1994, at the Ltw OIRoq [ 61 Diat - Ma. BncYtl 9 [7] of Huatoa ! WilSaa, 9!1 EaN B7td Sheel, RYi.a.d, [ 7] [8] Virginia. 18) 191 [91 [10] Appean.cn: [101 EXHIBITS [11] OOODKIND, LABATON, RUDOPP A. SUCHAROW [11] By: MARTIS ANN BRACHTL, ESQ., [12] attorney, of oaard for the P4tatBfa, (12] OULLOTTA Py. SwW, et. A4 [13] (131 1 1s 2 145 [14] LEVIN, PISHBEIN, SEDRAN 4 BERMAN [141 3 174 By: JONATHAN SNUB, ESQ., [151 attur.ey, of cu.rd for !hs platatify, (131 5 15S B.nes, at. aL 6 192 (1~ (161 7 38 201 [17] ARNOLD i PORTER [171 By: ALFRED T. McDONNELL, ESQ., [18] attorney, of cn.nel Inr the defeadaxt, 1151 - N Philip Morris O [191 [19] 0~1 [20] DECHERT, PRICE & RHOADS [20] W By: JEFFREY O. WEIL, ESQ., r (211 attorney, of aoancel for the defeed..t, [211 N Philip MuD6 i. Banet, cL aL ~ (221 [22] fit [vl (~] Ai^~.er. ~ (~] ~] Jaxw C. Auawa7, U, .ideoanpYm (u] [u]
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Pnie I P.k 2 CONFIDENTIAL [1] SUPREME COURT OF THE SfATE OF NEW YORK SUPREME COURT OP THE STATE OF NEW YORK 1 21 COUNTY OF NEW YORK COUNTY OP NEW YORK [ 31 MARY ANN HOSKINS, ExecotR of i PHYL SMAL an DENIS FUBINI, x the Estate of EtlMa Paul Hoskinf,x - Individmll~ ' and au behalf of x [ 4] WALTINA BROWN and DANTE AUBAIN, x ~ others Ilnn...J.~ 4tILL[Od. I YldiVidnaRT aYd M bt~ of i r V : [ 5] olnrn mY y ;auted, i PltiafB. V. x Index No. I~ i 8. i w~8 . x 110949% LORILLARD TOBACCO COMPANY, INC., (71 x Ldex No.  110951N6 LORILLARD INC. LOES CORPP x COUNCIL FO~R TObACCO RESEARCH-USA,x R.J. REYNOLDS TOBACCO COMPANY, x INC., (Sumeswr to To6acou x ( 8( RIR NABISCO. INC., COUNCIL FOR x Industry Research Committee~~ x AND TOBACCO INSiITUTE INC i [ 9] TOBACCO RESEARCH-USA, INC. x o t T h S I d , ., I oxev r o o ( xopn n ustry x Research CommRtec) AND TOBACCO i Defexdautw. i [10] , TOBACCO INSTITUTE, INC., x x i [11] Dafe.d.xl.. x [121 x ........................... [131 DEPOSITION OF FRANK OULLO'ITA, PY.D. [141 ........................... ........................... [1S] DEPOSITION OP PRANK OULLOTiA. R.D. [16] ........................... (17] Sepe.drot 4. 1997 [18] (19] ~ A1cYiwd, V1!pw [~1 3epta.ber 4, tft7 . ' 1211 RitLaomd, V .d.ia 122] 123] Repwted b7: Tanla L. Wood, RPR [241 WAGA ! SPiNELLI m Reported 65: Taqa L. Wood, RPR Pqe 3 Paq 4 [ 1] SUPREME THE STATE OP NEW YORK CO ~ ( 1] SUPREME COURT STATE THE OP NEW YORK ORK C OUNTY OF NEW COUNTY OF NEW YORK ( 21 (21 [ 3] SHARLENE HOBERMAN and AUDREY i [3] ROSE FROSINA, ELIZABETH COLAVITO x HULSE, ai execuna, om behalf i and ANILDA ROSS, i.diaidwly, x [4] of tla Estatn of Lewu Hohe, x [4] and m beY.H of otYaa dwilaq x individuallf, and om be6xlt of i .Kwfed, i [ 5] o1hC11 /Yn11aI1' lRYated, _ [5] 1 .. Pkimw% [6] Ptxiu[iR; _ [ 6] .. : I.dex Nu. V. i Index No. x 110950,96 [ 71 x 110953% (T] PHILIP MORRIS, INC., PHILIP x BROWN & WILLIAMSON TOBACCO CORP.,x MORRIS COMPANIES, INC., COUNCIL i [ 8] B.A.T. INDUSTRIES P.L.C., BATUS, i [8) FOR TOBACCO RESEARCH.USA, INC. x INC., BATUS HOLDINOS INC., x COUNCIL FO TOBACCb RE E R H USA (Soaemer to Tohacm iudoWry : 4 C i ND TOB CCO [ 91 R A - ,i S C ( 91 Reaearc ttea), A A i a.um INC o~ceaor to Tob.cm x . (S INSTITUTE, INC., x 1101 ~ ~ d [101 AND TOBACCO INSTIRTCB, INC., x DJ..i.Y. x 111] i [III x [i2] a [12] [13j [131 ........................... (141 (14] ........................... DEPOSITION OP FRANK GULLOTTA, P4D. I t DEPOSITION OF FRANK OULLO7TA, PY.D. ........................... 1 I ........................... 1171 (18 N [1e] (1e] O [191 (19] W Sep/eso6oe 4, 1991 Sepee.6or 4, 1997 [201 (q ~ [211 RieOmo.d, VirBieia (211 RtrA`°'d, vi.ei.la ~ (ul [1 FJ (731 (231 GO [aA1 [24] [25] Repated by: Taaya L. Wood, RPR [251 Reputed 6y: Taaya L. Wood, RPR
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Page 13 PsBe 14 [ 1] A No, I don't. [ 1] day? ( 2] Q A.d have you umked awubteaLy tince 121 A 7y.eey yers, [ 3] tke tlme yoa weee 157 [3] Q Wkat braed do yoa s.oket [ 4] A No, I have aot. [4] A 1 t.oke Mad6mo. [S] Q Okay. a'hen did yo. eot aeoket 151 Q Aed br Yow kwK Yave yee snokW [6J A There wu a period ot approximately five [ 6] Marlharaet 17] ew.tLs whefe I had quit. [ 7[ A Approximately 15 ytae. [8] Q WYea wa that7 1 91 Q At e.y t:.e de.iry tM put 15 yewn, (9] A I wu aLout 19 os 20, [91 Yave yoe wsated m qait t.okia87 [10] 0 Aad why did yon want to quit wqen you (10] A No, I have .et. 111] were 19 or 207 [11] O Ate Ju, manied, siR [12] MR. McDONNEU.: ObJecfia. PovadaHo.. [12J A Yss, I ana [13] BY MS. BRACFiPL: [131 0 Por hwr lu" 4n yoe beee .anied7 (14] Q Okay. Let me rephme tWt. [14] A Saeeteae yws, [15] ihd yoa wat to quit wYee you wece 19 ar [1J1 Q Yasr wYe's aame Y7 [1b] 7117 [161 A My wQe't u.e is Dai. [17] A Yes, I did 1171 Q Okay. Does she - sMke tYY. [18] 0 WYy did yon wet to quit wYes yen were 19 [181 Has she evee worked fn eey eep.dty fx 119] or 207 [19] ..y tobaroo oonpaqt (70] A Beeame at tb e4m I w.t a wl.d [20] A No, she W.ot. [21] mes0.i.., and I thought it mteik have dfected my [21] 0 Okay. Dun sYe rote7 [22] wind. [22] A No, she daw't 173] 0 1 tee. How .aeY do yae t.oke .ewt 123] Q Hu tYe evat7 [24] A Approximately two Packs a day. [?A] A At aae ti.e. she did. [?S] 0 For Yow In" have you sooked two P.cts a (27] Q VVYca w.s tku7 Page 15 Page 16 I 1] A It was approximately 10 yeas ayo, I [1] Pm aet ukie8 for speeiBe dats a peat dehB, I [ 21 would Ny. (21 Jmt waa a Be.eN idsa. [3) Q How .ack d;d she s.oke wkee she senkedt [ 3] A SM W aurked as a nqieel a.ae, as a. [41 A APPtoxMateh a pack a dsy, I would [4] opvati.8 nw. .wr, r a ea.prer tpxiayt ad aa [51 my. 151 a eanpuler spadaBr ie .edky .aaa8c.ea<. [6] 0 Por Yow loq dW tY twoke a qek a 161 0 TY.ek yee. Har aue Is7 [7] day? [7] A Her .aan Y Dntt:. [ 8] A I reaily doa't k.ow. [81 0 Daek 7faek you. Do yw Yne didneot [91 Q Uo yoa k.ow why she qaitT 191 A Ne, I de .ot. [10] A I thi.k I do. 1101 0 Tdt .e, mr, about yew 8wrl eB..Mio. [Il] Q What do yen tWk i the rcapa why sYa [Il] iace high scYuol. W W P. itlentfed in is wYse [121 quit? [12] did you ie to ttkod, what yean 3d yem p tYere, [13] A She was going ia for .ewa am8eq ..d'qa 1131 wYat depeees did you achieve atl ie wYa abJeeb [14] was having some difficulties, acd they advYed Yar to [14] were tkwe depees take.t 1151 give f aP• [13J MR. McDONNPIL: ObJerHn.. (baqo.d. [16J Q He advised Yalt [161 l.et's proceed aae by er. [17J A Pm .ot ture exactly who advised her, but [17] BY M8. BRAC7fP[.: [18] she wn ad.imd tu eive it .p. 1181 Q Okay. OY yau p to srioW aRer YiBY [19] 0 SYe was ad.ited 6y a doctar tu pva it [i9] school? O ~ [2D] aP7 [201 A Yea, i did. w Fr [21] A I can't tay that. I Jmt doaY k.ow. [211 0 Whese did you go 1o sriuol dter yey [221 0 Okay. At aey time dwieg the Patt 122] school? ~ ~ [u] 20 ypn+ did she work ouWde the Yo.w7 1231 A At hst, I weat N Laa AqeW Oky ~ [241 A Yes, tYe .as. [24] coue8s. [731 Q What work has she doee outside the Yome7 [tSJ 0 INd you {o tWe ftam 1965 0 196l7
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pt86 73 P.ge 26 (1] socL u a 1 or 100 us a 3m; mnrctT [ 1] A T1c P1 refers tu a. u.d.al puslau.; [ 2] A 7Lat's correet. [ 2] .hereu, a P100 .nuy r.0e. ro a Ytaacy fius. [ 3] Q Aad those aanLea refer to the Inatio. [3] stimulua oaet. [ 4] of the wa.e M1ur the original stlndw, tu, tur [ 4] Q 6.ut - ota7. Atl a P300 aeun 4br I S] example, P100 is fmtker awq has tSe orl8inal [ S] tL.. P100; right? Proe the ai8W1 LN..YSt I 6] stimulut tha. Pl; is that right? [6] A 71at't cutreet. [ 7] MR. McDONNELL: Objeccb.. Foundatio.. (7] Q lla.k yo.. Other tenr red in talki.8 [81 MS. BRACHTL: W6at's the Ladt for yor [8] a6uat EEQs an'awPW.de' a.d `WeW; mnaett [9] objectio.; toandatin.7 [9] A 71at't ooncC. [10] MR. McDONNELL: Yet, it furtha awq [10] Q Latesh teten to the ti.e it taket fww [it] .stanws - [11] the LNmdut br a brain sran to be e.ated; Y that [l2] MS. BRACHTL: So )rou wea..aSuet (l2] dyhtt (13] MR. McDONNELL: I s.aa. MuedaHw. (l31 A It Ataa ta 1M Nr It takw fia, tY [141 MS. BRACHIL: Fomdatiu., kuY. (141 ooset of the ttiwulars ta tYe time Y's recorded at [i5] MR. MeDONNELL: He ta aatwer it. [17] the scalp. [16] MS. BRACHIS.: WeS, w. I just doWt wul [16] 0 Okay. Atd a.pltWe tekts to the [17] to be asking objecHuuabb questb.a. Let ne try it [17] intensity, a it were, uf the heai..an; right? [18] a=ti., [18] MR. McDONNELL• Objm.tin.. Vape. [19] MR. McDONNELL: Sma [191 inteaiy. [20] BY MS. BRACHTL; [201 BY MS. BRACHTL: [21] Q Yan kaow, do yo. wt, what the tBHeteaoe [21] Q What doa a.PKt.h LMet b7 [22] it beqreen a P100 aad a P1; rigMT [22] A R tefert to acs..YP the dre of the [231 A Excuse s•ee, bat I thiuk yow are sdxin8 two [231 esuked pota.tlal. [24] towcndatore. Jero. (24] Q Atl the it+uf the nekai pNaNW i (25] Q Okay. (27] deter.ined by the a.e.a ct Lt1.Wtio.: aaneet7 Paye 27 Psae 28 []] A tn q:e6 pandipr, mrtect. [ 1] that pniod ut t4.e. [2] Q Is.'t that usually the nseT [2] 0 Oky. Yw .eported b, it's Dr. Dtr.; (3) A I would.'t really p1 that, o. (3] tiyMt [4] 0 I.-w6e.yo.wen-lro.-Lttt1E. [4 A 7ku'aovrtes. [J] th.t. [J1 0 Okay. Whem you sepattM to Dr. D.r btr [6] Proa'I/ to 82'wYe. Pqt.atm a rarearcY [ 6] 'n tn'84, wu 4 i. Riri.o.d ab7 [71 tcie.titt in the Behavioral Rneard DepaN.e.t, to ( 7] A 71a't eanet. [ 8] xhaw did poa repott7 [81 Q Okay. A.d tYe. i. '8t, dfi faR jkb [9] A My Ptojat leader wu Dr. WOllu Doa.. [91 title claaaet [10] Q For the ea.e tiwei [10] MR. McDONNELL: Ia'88T [11] A LM se rrter to wP vWe fat a tetnad [11] MS. BRACHPL: Yet. [12] api.. [12] THE DEPONEMP: No, Y did.R (13] Q Pkate. [13] BY MS. BRACNIL: [l4] A 7La.k 7u. (l4] 0 Okay. Pto. 72 ts'ri, )a..en Ptojatt [15] A I heBe.e that's aon..te, yes. [15] kader is the EleqmpYjsio0.sgin1 SWW [16] 0 Okay. Did a.yo.e report to yu. dmles [161 BiaMe:Ncal Research Di.We. !nt PkBiP klunit I. [17] that tiwe 9aGodT [171 RicY.o.d; eutrectt [l8] A Yn, Ibad a t-c+-'^'-a [18] A llat's mus<. . N ~ [19) 0 Who waa that? [19] 0 N'Yat t.atk did yaa tb }nt PWip Muttit ie w [20] A Pw >orh, I tetupoke, it wult a [20] that tiwe ha.et ~ [21] tecLniti.., k w.s an ndstant or asttstaas, 1 [21] A DLVi.E that t1ie 6a.e, I aoai.aed, !ot ~ [22] should u7. 73e flrst attitta.t I had muin5 that [22) the .eY p.ut, my ..uked Potutid LtWb. (n [23] tinw was ESsabW Gay. A.d she wu followed by - [23] 0 Okay. What aYe did yan do? N 46 [241 the Wt u.e it Frat+ko.ici, hl I - AYCe, axcwe [24] A Encne tas, what wtr the titae period [13] s,e. A.d t9eea that was [elbwtd by qudP Naqea dnrie{ [25] apiaT
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Pace 17 Page I8 [ 1] A That wmds about right. [ 1] A Yea, bt I tki.k the depee was rs.ay [ 2] Q Did you get a degree from La Angeles [ 21 awarded is 77; akkoeak. I fi.ided '. '16. [ 31 Ch7 Collete7 [ 3] Q And 7oar ama ut e.qk..'s i. 7er A.D. [ 4] A No, 1 dld aat. [4] P,oSram wemT [S] Q Oka7. Did yus tke. {o to [3] A M7 .ajur artn e( e.pkai was [ 6] CaHfania State Uaircnit) at Lw Angeles? [6] PkyuoloSial pqckolon. My .i.or aror at e.pY.i (7] A 'luat't ounM. [ 7] were Psyckulop of ka.:.g. m.pnati.e Pqeaotop. [8] Q Was tlut Ror 1968 W 19701 [8] Q Wkea did lu be{in workiq lor [9] A I believe that's axmate, yes. [9] PYiBP Martiat [10] Q Did you get a degrm t6etat [10] A 71at was : Jre of 197/. [i1] A Yp. (It] MS. BRACH'PL: P. Soiq to rrk wslkiq (12] Q Okay. Wu that a B.A. : pqc4olop7 [12] as a\ eiktb(t. [13] A 71at4 mverJ. [13] [14] 0 Did Jo" specialize there is aq tryo of (14] (OULLO7TA EXHIBIT NO. I was .erked.) [15] Psyckubp4 ~' [11] [161 A WeN, I took .om m~sa.{i eaPeimental [16] BY MS. BRACH'IL: [171 psychology tW ac1 other type. ~ [171 0 WcYe )s .urked OeYntta E.k1it [I8] Q After p. Sot yoa B.A., from [i8] Nan6er 1. '/Ln, V Pa wudd, Ia tkit duaw.ea, [19] Cak(oraia State UeiteNg at Lna AoSeks, did )d1 119] PIn10, to the paSe tkY't BYes w.bc(ed - by [20] po b the Uaivatk) of New Medoo! (20] 'BeW ...lur,' Par wkniy M tW Ra.QeA .r6w [21] A Yes, I did. [21] a. the lower righaka.i um.er. [22] Q Wtl tkat ia 19701 [221 A AII 'ryM. [23] A 7Sat1 ti{M. [231 0 7Ln, Pkw, b 202l986273. [ul Q Did 2ow =et a Pk.D. Y eaperi.ratY [24] Do 7at .ee that? [251 psychology there i. 1976? [27] A Yea, I du. Page 19 Pa{e 20 [ 1] 0 Is this Yur .ewtm or - ereuse we. let [ 1] MR. MeDONNELL: AY tigYt. 7fa.k poa [ 2] wn strike tYat. [2] THE DEPONENT: Yc., tYat's correct. [31 Is tiY 7our CVT (3] BY MS. BRACHTL: [4] A 'llat'a cortaR. [4] Q An yun er ka.e ya. .nr Eees a.e.ker of [S] 0 Okay. Do 3en t.ow wken this was [ S] 9oetdo.al aBAYatlu.s etkax Wn tb.e Ytei [ 6] Prepatedt [61 kere} ( 7] A No, I do.'t. [ 71 A I do.Y tLi.k p. [8] 0 AN riSYt. Is the idonrtion un kem [ 8] Q Okay. Ad it it eenmt NWt hu. 190 [9] cortrdt [9] to 1970, 7oe wero artaat dFamr h the [101 MR. McDONNELL: He w, tab a wose.t a.d (10] DepaAwe.t of PsyYdop at CaY/o..is S4te [tll look at itT [11] Uai.enig, Laa A.plry, .ert paget [12] MS. BRACHi7.: CeKeidy. [12] A C.o.M pa tapaat tYatt [131 MR. MeDONNELL: 7L.ks. [131 Q SaM. 4 it tsW tYt Ma'N b'!0, [141 BY MS. BRACH77.: [141 yov were WNaa 8fmqar i the Daprtme.t af [15) 0 ANaa4, let ms do that a 8ffae.t way. [15] Psyckubp Y Caitoni. Stab Udw.YIF, [16) The duw.e.t san, yar CV sys tkat yon am a.e.6a [16] La. Aya4s7 [17] of the I.tet.atta.N Beai. Research /hpdntb., the (17] A No, r'a.t tkN's asl conW. (18] ArrcLtb- tur 6eaoroceptlo. Sdere. 6a Society [i8] Q Wkat's wto.3 with tkatt - N [19] tor Nemarie.cea a.d the Soaiey for [19] A I - k uatu that I wn udY..t ~ [20] Psyc6opkydoloSicd Re.earrS; is tkR mme@ [20] dkector, .Wad .i.ni.m in w Depauua.t ef (N [21] MR. McDONNELL: RIY Jo. WenNfy a [211 Pqckolop. N [23] Wace4 [22) O RfBY. Br lw wan r a.4tat M-1 [23] MS. BRACNiL: Yes, I certai.l7 .A. [23] dieetor i the DePan.e.t .t P.}eblop; tiSktT N [24] 7Lat's the bottum of the pye that we Pre.iuul7 [7A1 A I..s an a.irar dkedar /w the N ~ [73] ideetifiod, 6258. [23] auimal !ao'litin in the Deputaea e[ Pqtlolnp. ~
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P.Be 33 Page 34 t 1) Q N4e. 7w .eportW to Dr. S.uden, w.a Ye [ i] A It beeanse ..upr of >,rpq pYTYcbp. [ 2] i Riciaaedt ( 21 0 And i that pur auu.ent el0et [ 3] A 7Lri1 cortcct. ( 3] A No, Y i.at. [ 41 0 Wrae tw rcpon<d to D.. C3uk., .n. Ye [ 41 Q Okay. How 1o.8 wwa tou a..rpr d ( 5] i RicL.o.dT [S1 tsawp pqydobpT ( 61 A TYat't Wu eotreet. [ 6] A B wr a6at tirse tun. [ 71 O Okay. And to .hou U{d ta reP^K t^ (t1 0 Okay. Erare .T Pro...d.tl... 1.ieYt [ 8] sRee Dr. 8udetaT [8] wurder tW tar CV wdiata IYM yuu wsn the [ 9] A I tii.k tYe 1s6 Peann to whn. 1 1 91 .uu8er tur u..uq pYy.iWup rt tY fatitu er (101 repotted u a.w8ee -.o, tlut's .ot quae [101 6iobeisrie Pnnriun8: wYat does tist Isu. ..d wYme [11] axmate. ABee that, K wa. Dr. Catkt EIB.. [11] i t6att [12] Q Whe. (Ed you tepmt to Yd! [12] A 7S.e .e.as the IWisee of BiulcBicd [13] A That wu pro6.bby dutin8 the ite [13] ReseucY. [14] '80+. [14] Q Okay. 11!] Q And aher YeeT [1J3 A And that fY loeuei i. Cnbpe, Ca..q. [161 A After tY.t, i vu Dr. Robi. Kiup. [16] 0 8o yaw wre tYe ...qx d tie [17] 0 A(tor tYat, ie aqa.eT [i'/1 Ssruq PYpbfop Deput.eu ef tY 1.niMa M [18] A 71erc wu.Y a.ybudl aftaa Wt. [18] Biolqicd RerarA i CdoBr. Oarq fho.'f2 as [19] 0 Okay. WYa did Tor do - d.ike Nat. [19] 'AST [20] Did 7our job duatptkm rLanBe in tnv [201 A 7fu's mned. [21] work for Philip Morti aRer •93t [21] Q And ii tY.t ipYte INBBPOT 122] A My job dac*hT [221 A 7fut•s the aawtu, emmat. [23] 0 RQYt. Yar tkte, 7our job ttk, [27] Q WYem you wae tie ...qee of uroa (24] A Yes, .q tGb cYuBed, [24] Wt+IobO at INB(PO, dli Tuu lts is Oa...tt [25] 0 And wh.t 8d i becnmet (25] A Yn, I d{i PaBe 35 PaBe 36 [ 1] Q 8o tuu li.ed tYere !u titee tearst [ 1] waves? [2] A •M1St's curzeR. ( 2] A Yw, 1 dii. ( 3] Q WY.t d1d tuu do u t4 ..nyee tm [ 31 Q WYt wu tY.t wat dnRe i Op..qt [4] xMt Pb79^bD at INBIFOt [ 4] A 7Smt .n a co.pb of reuus wYt i wu [S] A I m.ductad a.oked poUatitl Yudiu• [J] do.e i Ou..q. 7116 ptinatt muo, wa tYU I wr 161 Q Wu it a oo.tinuatlo, ot tqr ear8ee [ 6] Inuted Ibe, beu.e I was do.e to a P.e.ias [ 7] workt [ 7] rumcYer i the f{eld af evoked pMeui.Y wb [8] A rue the .n.c Pot. [ 81 adauccoed calaln ti.ae d esotea pueaei.i .Ui 1 91 Q Yoar earqx work - wike tYat. [9] wYirJ imaI iaulhed [;O] Was tou euYee work is evoked Puteai.l [10] 0 And Wt it (11] ttndiu ua.i.LK, at leut is put, the eHec4 of [11] A 7fat ts Us wat I did witY uYaclwt [12] p.okiq o, bwln w.s.t (121 evoked pote.tlai• [13] A Yet, ti.ri aowtat.. [13] Q I'r wrt3, I aded .t q.eriu. [14] Q And is i also rcmate to say tYat at [14] iurthJlt. 7fa peew. w..t [15] least ao.e ue to.r work P.ioe to •92 wss Yudticg tYe (11] A The prsu, wu Dr. OaJ Rab.l. [16] affeai of .imtl.e o" bate wa.aT [16] Q And wYem dY yw ba8i& wwki" wYY (17] A I studied the d(ects of dprolta woke, [17] Dr. Kobdt N n8] ud ciprotta n.oka uq b.e ooaaf.ed .iootis or [18] A I ia.ly iatW wohi.g aH - 0 [19] .ot. [19] Dr. KobJ, I beYe.e, t4/1nt tir i tY, adP W (201 0 Wrd, n.n of tYe tueucY that you d1d (201 '80t. Fr (21] exa.i.ed the e!(ett on dain w..« 1n ciuettes witY [211 0 A. I - atl Dr. KabN was is QpryT N H+ [22] aitterea r.ei of .twrt.e; ca.eat (22] A 7Lt•s mrtee. N [231 A 71ae•z mtract. [23] Q Was b a FBiBp woaAs snPlnJ.e e.wt Q~ (14] Q Okay. WYc. 3us west to Oemun7, did you (21] A No, 4 wat .e.a a Philip Mont. [2S] matue to uu.ine tYe elfect ue .boti.e n. 6ni. (2S] eaLpbtee.
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PaBe 29 PtBe 30 [1] Q Ok, '88 m'92, tuu wen projeC leWer. [ 11 A Did you rt 1988 tlr pr..e.t7 [ 2] A Okay. Let ese tate a bok. I wa a [ 21 Q RiaY. [ 3] mrolta.t with the Product E.alaatio. Di.6kn asid I ( 3] A No, P. - [ 41 wa a cvrakaat is the Plavur Developmeat Divtrio.. [4] 0 1'. .wp, tYt i wW Yor GV ay.. I 51 Q WYat was tAe qodu,Y that you wcro - 151 A TYe. Y's is r.ue. [ 61 W+te that [6] Q Tka.t to. tue Pui.tift tkat o.t. How [ 7] Wk<. Yon wero a coasaltant iaa the ( TI 4w8 we+e Yuu a cuuukaat m the Product E.el..tio. [ 8] Product Evduatin. Divido., were you masultin8 om a [ 8] Diviriua? [ 9] Particulat Product? [91 A Dieety corakaa putsi.e tm a [10] A No, 1 wn aut. [10] period of an .ore tYau art .catYa. [11] 0 whet did tou do as cnmakaet in tLe (tt] Q OY, I see. Do you Ya.e aq ..drnrta.dia8 [12] P.oduct E..lu.tiu. Divido.? [12] ut why tu.e se/..e aaYS 'Y to ppe.eat wYCm it wr [13] A I aleeeded -1 dua4 knuw - tuws [13] udy da .oay? [14] poups, I Suen they ep4 tkew, wharc they She [14] A 7Y. is a.Sae tW wat pdrblY wWe. [1S] peapk .ew pcoduots ..d ask tYew to - what they [131 betare 1992. [16] think abeut it, buicallY. And I helped people 1161 Q Okay. I do.Y - tepnllen of wkea it [171 desi8n wiae tests. (1'f) wu wtine., do }oN kaw aaq ..dpsta.diq .[ why It [18] Q What kind of poducts were being Siven to [18] sqs 7am wcn a cu.nka.t tae'88 ti the Pe.e.t, [19] the (acus Sroap to eralcant (19] wkitY, a.a. Y w.'n taW.w aYo.t'!2, b/aat [201 A I naBY dna4 eecar. [20] 7eau, wYe., i fad. it wr u.y si[ .oaYt [211 0 Yam doa't repll aq of tAew? ' [21] A I wY MirdY 7aMidpatlq as a [22] A No, I dna't. (221 Puair lwi Lr a paiug af tk .ur.. - [231 0 HaY. So Yo. wen a eouuMa.t f1oa• '88 [231 0 [J4i.L [24] to the prese.t oftke Product E.aloatb. Di.isio.; (24] A - and tie. Wi 1992, I west o.eetYpe [2S1 right? Right? Is that ti8ht? [25] n.e ahtaeuun a waek. PaBe 31 Pop 32 [ 1] Q I see. Aad dmiq - od You weat oves [ 1] A No, I duek [ 2] there o.e dtm.oom a week antll'92? [ 2] O Okay. WYes tum wets puJ.ce leader [ 31 A TWCs cotrett. (3] i. the EledropYytioiqiul9a.diaa D{.iyas af the [ 4] Q Okay. And Yau eoewked ..d pre tup.t (4] B'^^a•_'-l Reuuci DNWB, to wYom dH you [s] ee tweesd aew laedoct.; ti8ht? [s] ,eport? 16] MR. MeDONNELL: Objeetlw Puuadatln., [61 A D.ri.B which ppiod e( ti.nt [ 7] i thi.k it wiutatea tke tntinneY tkat ke Sa.e. [ 7] 0 BE b 9L [8] MS. BRACHTU Let m rephrase it tYea. [8] A I bel4s duri.g that prbd of tiae I [ 9] BY MS. BRACH'17.t ( 9] yd severv y.yws, [10] 0 Did you couuY un poteatLl .ew 1101 0 A.d wM wMe Ibt? [111 products? [11] A I heYa.. tY f6.t .arpr w [12] A I would cMnctaiu my work wYY product [12] Dr. Jim 01ufa ' [13] e.alaatlu. u de.ebpi.8 .atkodobpu, 1131 0 Okay. And driq wYat y.iui a/ Y.a dY 114] 0 Wkem you - in order to develop a [141 you repmt to Ywt [15] methodology, d(d you .eed to k.nw what product you [1S1 A I would ad) be pe.iy. I we.Y my [16] were de.ebpiq the methodology fart [16[ toe the /4e t.o Y.r.. [17] A Not reatly. [171 Q Okay. AM wb after kio did p..apwt N [18] 0 So it's yew - do you .ot rc.uaebar a [181 to? - 0 [19] doele product that tou worked a or for dmtej the [19] A O.ee ayi., tkah a lo% tiwe qu. b.t I W 120] Nme 7ea wen a eoowkaat to the Product E.Wutio. [201 6eYe." it wat, aRce tln, Dr. Tad S..dee. Ir [21] Dirisk.? [211 Q Okay. Par bw lo% JY 7ou npae to N F-+ (23] A That was .ot the .uve of the work I d{d [22] Dr. S.adwa? N [231 therm. [231 A R teer b ar It waf auwawiat Io.Ber (~ [7A] Q Oka7. Is it uowred tYt You ne't _ [24] 1Yan kr Dr. Civles, bit 1 sr - P. m.YY .et wn [7S] You dua't reekmber a single product? [1S] at tYi. Pui.t in ti.e.
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Paye 73 Paia 74 [11 A At tL4 Pot.a i. He,e, I du.'t beNe.e [ 1] 0 I. .edYb. m N. witw P.uo.. [ 2] o. ( 2] rapu.tt, Yr Ye .ade aq .a6a1 npa.b M- [ 3] Q oo tnu kanw to wYat jnoQaaY Ye Ya. [ 3] MR. MeDONHELL: ON, P. .nrt. [ 4] wL.itted Yit fiodtyt or W alrbact.t [ 4] BY MS. BRACN[L: [S] A Well, Seaeualll. toa dce't mb.e 1 S] Q Ool raponts b PM'lip Mmi tW toa [ 6] a4tracts tu louma4, ( 61 k.ow about? He's Si.es wtitaa mpaut 17] Q Poqi.e w. I dWaY uk a sood 17] A Rat1r. [ 8] 9ueatioe. Do you tnow to what ]omnals Ye m6mit4d [8] 0 n+a be ab t.n b.o.ehuay ama .r.e [ 9] Yik retearcl, Yb repurttt ( 9] b wu doiq, Y toa taew7 [10] A Pw w", I wodda't -[ should bew [10] A Wet, w.l wpmY er be a dYfaea [11] t4t idwmatb., 1wt I dn.Y [11] aouple d raWp. rm re Ye Yem t.iM e. 1!e [12] Q Okat. He reported to PWVp Morris, you [12] telepYo.e wAY people ad 4't ala Si.ea l [13] a.7: did Ye do that ia writLqt [13] pewtatfue. tYet I k.uw d. [14] A He has, ta. [1{] Q He'f Sivea Prooestatior 10 ] [1S] Q Have you «es the repwbt 1131 PYOip Martirt (16] A I 4ve. [161 A Yes. [17] 0 To whnw oe they directed? [171 0 Wen yns tLent [18] A I believe tae Penne wW5 piantity 1191 A Yea [19] Ietpooabb for tie paat Y GLdy Hatn, but It [191 Q WW ww tY Pr....talicnat [201 caad be uat tt ..onw be wtwiBea to n.. CDr. r (201 A rn awrP, I.ae6 M drYP W[. 1 [21] .ot me. [211 tWttiee-IwrMtVn6ra/dtask [22] Q How wuy wdi teports \ave you mes im. (221 Q Okq. ~YYd ~s ww 7oa tirs 1ar} [23] De. BonrtYt [231 MR. McDONNEIL: Ob]edu.. Vy.e. Wiid [241 A Maybe toor or II.e ppopra tqioub fu) uen. 1251 ait"et4x. [231 Page 75 PaSe [ 1] BY MS. BRACHTL: ( 1] [ 21 0 Whici of tYe vebJ reports tW [21 [31 Dr. BoaartY Save to PYOip MwrY wem you preteat (31 [41 W 141 151 A Itiiaklwet- [sl [61 MR. MeDOHNELi: Go aYead Ercime aew 161 7 r 1 ] . .o.q. [tl 18] A I W4t I wu tkrm for a proeaaatlos [s1 [9] t4at Ye w.ade a6oat a year ago. [ 9] [10] BY MS. BRACHIL: po] [tf] Q Okay. WYadoyu.-wl.tdoyu.ranl pt] [12] Dr. BamtL rcportt.3 aho.t iis eaeanrY oa moiee [721 [13] ud drotlae, aad by 'ropoM.3,' Imaeaa dfYet [13] [14) va6ellt or im wlitYSt 1141 [151 A He did nt jrt fpeak of ine.is ad (131 [16] :ootiee, It waa a wta of wwpoa.dt that Ye 1161 [17] looked at that M repoNed o.. [17] [181 0 Okay. Pm a.dy yeu wW M nid aboat (18] [19] ceaiae and akaNaa, Yewerer. [191 [20] A Ha repurted wYat the eltecY were in the 1201 [21] bnia dwulation rcward puad{Sw. [211 [221 Q A.d wYat did he py the eHec4 werct [221 [23] A I.eeiI to read tYat ceuiae Pmd.ced [231 [KI probably a 75 peteeat redeCiea in bain rti.al.de. 12+1 [t3] rowud tLreshold7 wheteu, dout4e produced .uybe a [251 76 20 or 30 penatM redsliu. Y 6nY Mi.eYtlem tewatd timduli 0 Okay. dn pew eapl.in wiet the G.i ttlmo4tlan eswal6lYta.YoM t A Okay. SrYin.deWa 7Lnw arta1. pYl, a( ue Yni. we 1\[h tYat 1/ aa aaimal Pelle~ a YWf IY opetut deahea. Y w81 atf.dNe We paa d Ne e.W. JotYU.ear,wbs,R'.a-t'o teeabtd.3. Ad vrNU tWp tlr/ aw medaew, wi8 ea.'e eNaSea fe the ttre/YoY at wiicY aai..Y .iY ati.alu.: tlW i., Je a.oea of c.oa v tb lrcqaeacy at tYe t>•~ tea a.ol a r d.a iMY. Ad9Yt-erwy rbotatOe .apitada af .wktae.ae/ .oaid be tYeyY the napRada al the reBacW s Ia tYe Maqaa.c7 ar tYe awplit.ds of tM MxWdy .eprr7 le Mf.due t4e Pa.t of the enL. _ Q A. I eornet Y.Wenh.Ny tIW a roducda. I. Bu ievM of IB..Yfie. neqaGa6 to W.uWeYatqeNOSYrN.arnYtraa peatx .apR.de of na.kmreat; iN e1Yer wwY, the .en r.aakaciy It i-.pih Wt h atYer wai. Y t4 .ma nedmcf.~, tYa co.td be tYuwe y a wdactinn i.1M WaruW
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Page 89 ( t] Q Oka). Ot6er tha. tLt'1 1=1 A No. 131 Q What wae tko.e ptbt IevettlpNuas [41 abontT [s1 A Let't see, ote pbt in'estiptio. i.volved wetn8 wYetker we could .odulate the p.t[en.evnd e.ok.d pote.ti.l wdk ratioat udorantt. And ooe - arotker oae - I atdped fa .ot really mnductine, but 1wt acm{ .s a cootultant fn a qudy that they xero doing with frup. Q What wat t6at s<udl; do you kaovf A 'ILat wM, o.ce qaia, looking at tke uercatebcN.e effeW ot.iooH.e ua the seenq tytteM. Q Wkea Iou worked at INBTFO, dfd " .de a wriltea - strike that. W6ta yur worked at INBIPO, dtd yor eo.um.Mata with PkiBp Martit io the U.ited Stata aboat what you wae dnin8t A I a.,.u.iuted wkk people at PhBip Mattw, cotta3. Q Okay. Did Iou do'kd io wtitLg} A 91at's oortect. 0 Did ymt do it teBululyT pmfowl. Okay. I a.denu.d. Go aread. Yar cu aaawer. THE DEPONENT. It I.ere to do a eudy, thea I would prepare a patntol, conacl. BY MS. BRAC1fP[.: Q Yea pttpand tW ia 14 an.wl eoase o[ yur MYi.ey: CwtOttT A 7Sat'a actteU, 7es. Q Ad the ialawallun i. tW wu corted at the ti.:e Wt yos wtcte it; mnetttt Other tW u yo.'.e already tpWedt (Mr. WeY Ia premat.) A Cnnxi. 0 7Sa.k )o.. You told .e tY.t Iu.'.a .ot Md yar depodtlo, takan befote. Han Iou jiven t.ors tcttl.oq before; by tkat, I.ua i• a a.raaa. o. have you ewr ii.en twtlsoq wiV a cua roportar atti.g tkepx MR. McDONNELL: Cau ws ]a8, tkaa wM atoro Wan o.e queirion iWe. 4 tke qmufo. - MS. BRAC3iTL: Let na break it dotn. MR. MeDONNELL: Okay. Page 90 (11 A 1.ouH Y7 an an ao-rWea b4sit. [21 MR. McDONNELL: Ale we at a/ued fiwak [31 e+rt P [41 MS BRACHPL• Ln. [A (b) (B+aak) (Mr. We6 a.d Mr. 9" am .et Prnea.) [10] BY MS. BRACHIL: [Il] Q Daetn, taka a buk, pWsn. Y you ~oW (121 at tke dowa:eat we'Ya bw talking a6nt. OaYdta 1. [131 Did-Iow prepara this dopuieatT [141 A Yes, I did (1S] 0 Ad do pu kaow win you prepared itt [16) It yau trY Bd r a.aat datc, a.ea a [17] 7eat triN do be ate. [18] A This doaasseat was ppuh.hF/ - wn/, Y (19] was preparei pWw6y i 1993, 1 would ry. [201 Q Okay. ANtki4apol9cul;w.it [211 Put af 7ar bad.as utpa.aOAYis tn pmpats [221 apetw.tue..d{e.T [231 MR. McDONNELL: O6]eetiu. b the ta. [24] [251 MS. BRACNILe 9Yer, the .awe - it'f a Pap 92 [ 1] BY MS. BRACi[IL: [ 3] 0 Ha.. Inu e.er p.e. .wues tert.u.! - [ 3] tttite tiLL [ 4] Hate Io. e.er pma YmW awam 151 tettinnq befureT [61 MR. WEIL: 7wa a a puta af [T3 darifaatla., by '.qba1,' ya..eur tpokes r [81 opposed to as aBldnitt [91 MB. BRAOHTL: Owtwt. Ya. iL.k 7w. (10) THE DEPONENT: i AY i a ha(Be - i [71] n.Bk 9o.rt ar Qns. ]121 BY MS. BRAt]tfL: [131 Q Other tYa. Y aaBie aoa, taw Iu. [141 eW 005 Naken W00a 1XVII•eq} [t51 A I dua't baliew M. [16] Q Ye.'.a .aar tattYYA ia a trWt 11'r) A No,Ira.aaa. N 0 [181 Q Oty. Nas 7" ..ar Siwa w riu.m ~ _ W [19] mam test.oq; by tkat, I.aaI aarktq waate ).r Ir [201 as ..a uatnwe ti N p H+ [x1] MR. McDOtlNELL: lfaa an tas dY6taa Vill ~ [22] 9-8tiom ~ [23] MS BRACfiT[a Lat ae ttr,te tYtl. Yam (241 ue dBM. (2+]
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Page 61 Page 62 (\] O 4bw n,Ad yoa qw11 Wat! [1] 0 Pblip Mu..ia yaT Vn !w Yis wrt: d.o [2] A T4e fhrt 1a.a Is speJled A-B-E.I. ..d tY . [2] it .utT . ~ ~( [ 3] lart .ame is tpeYed LAJ-T-H-E. 1 1 v 1 l~ 3] MR. McDONNELt: Objerfiu., po..datle.. [ 41 0 Aw Ius i.rolred is tkat "k! [41 BY MS. BRACHPL: [ 51 A No, kc6aY. [S] 0 De taw kamr wYe6er PYYp Mortit P4s [6] 0 L Dr. LajtLe is e8aqe of Ihat workT [ 61 Yfss br Yis work7 [ 7] A T6at's mned [ 7] A Ne \as a yut fm,. P471p Marria, [81 Q Wkme idea wa it to do tkat wurk. H 7oa [ 8] 0 tW Y. :ep:.t.d u, ttt, popea af ki [ 9] know? [ 9] work a PWip MunbT [10] A I believe be initiated contact with m. [10] A Sa.c .mI early rt.ak., Is. [11] Q Pr{a to besieninS this wurk, wa [il] Q Weee tbe ieppts isw,iliyt [12] Dr. Isj1Ee a Philip Morris employee? [12] A TYat•s omeet. [13] A No, M.u .eta. [13] 0 DW yot as tYeaT [14] Q W4ue 3id Ye wwk at Ib tise b [141 A I did. [15] ooetacted Phitip Morh7 [1J] 0 To wba wss tYey dFaNedi [161 A At tke N.e ke - [161 A Tke) we.a aiaa dntl.i a r nr a He [17] Q Co.tuted Philip Mortis. [17] .im pWdea d meneY, viYo is MUwrtey [18] A - oo.acted Philip Monia, ke was at the [18] :etpo.pTle tor the pob. [19] N. S. Klein Institute, whick, I belie.e, f. a 6n.ri [19] 0 AW tiat .ks peidca d aartey is [70] of the New York ctNnl s)tlea.. [20] wkwat [21] Q B Dr. lajtke wrreaNy a Philip Mortis [21] A Ni rar Y Dr. Rkind Goa. [221 emploleel [=21 Q Nn. aa.TsacY «paU did )os rmef.e [23] A No, Ys is .ut. [231 ho. Dr. Lsjtket [7A] 0 HeY a cordtaai [24] A I ba8ew ao Mfet rq:Mti 1251 A No. [13] 0 Now auy ppa did ucY mrYt uft PaBe 67 Pap 64 [ 1] A Oae repoat, I t6ink, wo a dn8k pa8e. [1] .re teYioB .e wYat yw vw pft b do aad ra [ 2] AM the mcoad report wu maybe two or three pyn. ( 2) telBnB 7ow what r pi.{ to do. I 31 0 1o co..eaion with this NNptio., ka.e [31 MS. BRACliR: Okay. Lel's do It. [4] yas e'ne, ducuments to 7ov lawyers? [ 4] BY MS. BRACHIL: [5] MR. McDONNELL: Objectio.. Yo..a [S] Q (o m..erJio. wiH W. W(ptiu., We [6] er{imteg to ask yue.tior «yor nay be eeyt..i.g to [61 yo. ti.e" mc..ew a Po.r 1a.yaa.} [ 7] ut yuortior tkat tuock oa the ataney.9irat [7] A Na.. I 8i.es a.y don.e.u to my [8] pdnkse, rn pm.it Dr. Oullalte a.rwer Wt [8] l.qear [91 queulo., 6at Pa going to be very arotd abuat .ot [91 Q Yeah, a.a [10] kttie8 anythia8 much 6elo.d that ooar. [101 Let .a do Y a Bq1s bll dt/Greatlt. [11] MS. BRAG(rL: Y.a. I aruae that Yoa [] B] Did yua kw tY.t Opa9 a let .f BtlW.eNm pft [12] would do a 8ood job ol prtdi.8 tka pdvBep. [12] a. ti{kt .ow a6o.t Ie4rm aad a8airt lkBiP Mw.i. [13] Nea's wYat Pa going to be.ukYti, a [13] Aro yo, awus that diRena p4WBR, diRena [14] P'at 7our mind at eeR, rm Soi.S to ask Ya wYetYee [14] 141150112 tk,oaelwa the U.iad 7lataa Ya.a ubi [1J] or .ot Ye Yu produced dew.rap a}o, is this [13j PMIiP Mort4 to produce dno.e.fs; me yoa aaue o1 [16] IRiptios and tpecifipk wktYer Ys p.e yu" tYpe [16] aRT [17] Pardaalu dneaa.e.b, that's wYat P. piq to be [87j A ts pwak a.ue af that. N [18] asking W. I dna't i.ted to go f.nker tk.s that. [t8] 0 Oky. Hae )or, a tt4po.w a a O [19] MR. McDONNELL: Ba< I will object to the [191 dowmat request ppoporded by aq pYiaYff is the W [20] second 9uestioa, became e seeos a.e il•, deaA3 [20] U.iad Statp, p.ea doe.oe.b a Philip Mont ~ [21] covered by the attot.ey-cReat qMkp. [21] oou.ueB N H-+ [22] MS. BRACHTL: OY. [221 MR. McDONNELL: Yw w akiq do Vl W [23] M0. McDONNELL: Whether he ps docnme.LL [731 ooeu6s is a nf that mq aake it aes a t.piye oa W [24] to kk lawyer wews a.e .boat u cka to the head [2A1 the pt.Bep wYea yna io.'t n.jy it..i Y a. [2S1 0[ k at's's pouiN. a pt, 6at 7u ask Mw. Yoa 114 MS. BRAG7iIL• Na.e Ia. - wer, I tk:k
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Psyc 49 [ I] MS. BRACHTL: Let ne mrtxt n7 quertce. [2] BY MS. BRACN71: [3] 0 Am yu awam ot drop tbat qoduce tYe [41 Mcleomktti.a rcspnre in tYe Qaaeli.e pejSon of [7) tYa trigtaied amve7 [51 A Pea rea5) ant awam ef 1LLe seanrJ [7] Ppope/hu O( othu dmp, e/ dlep is partkAar. [81 We wem .nt sludyi.5 aq'ennq - aq ot4r ki.b [91 of Pm9e:tiu tW the lea,o0 Properties o' [IO] eicoNne, and Y produced dBkreaNal aBeW. [11] Q Have 7oa heard ot any drop tha[ produce [12] thnte tam dBtemetW dfelts in IYe - at the [131 Gaaeii.n pn{lioe i. the hilpewia.l .eneT [14] A Me'a., rd have tn ttam, with respect m [1S] drop, rw aot awam of 4s Ikeiatum e" the sea.o7 [16] rmperty uf dnip. [17] 0 Do you t.ow what the research Yu beea [18] do.e an the mamp properties of drey7 1191 MR. McDONNELL: Aq dmo O61ecW.. [2A1 Vague. Not ckar what yo. nea. by •dm&• [21] BY MS. BR'ACNTI.: [22) 0 wed, B 1 taQ a6oat dmy at abma, ra, [t31 talting a6uut - iw talk atoee dmp of abuse. By [24] LL.t, rm mtertta5 to cocd.e, Yemi.. Let'a talk [25] a6eat cueatae .ad Yemie. An you awue af studies Page 31 Pys 50 [ 11 of - mike W[. [21 Do you Y.ew wYakt 1ie.e Ye.e bee. (31 aq Codio uf tYe .n.mrP e6ecb af wcai.e e. 4mia7 A Ma'a, wYe, rwt *eakie5 at r.wy eBaL, I aar spraliq a6oet /Yw. dfeeh, ad I aw• .ut .w..e of aq Ike'Ywe oa the Bmca prapertL of icmiw or eeair. Q Ri{Y. Wdl - i bd4ve 7ma`ro - Iw aare testified tYat Dr. Kubel to..d tYat aimN.e produces a d'dfere.tial fterendeel:.e /eywue : tYe - MR. McDONNELL: Garerir. BY MS. BRACNIL: Q - Oaawiu, tYa.k 7e., paiYU. Y tYe trigeaieJ .mw. 7Lt Y a pY)aiolo{ital erpoYe; oortett7 A '11a[ it a aedl reyo.s b a my, .e41.. 0 WYat do la..eu bl'wnp mryowY MR. McDONNELL: ObJ.Uiu.. Vape. A 71.[ r.a B.d.M to ev7 an.wy [73] tdw.atlo, lo the er.w ar rn eany w ent.'. [241 rcapo.e u.ct to the moepw.. [ul Pqe 52 [I] BY MS. BRACHPL: [11 Q A.d dSd be BM 1Yat tMn wes a. Nka7 [2] Q BaeitY-wYeai-b.tkis a-tt [21 A 71aY& mrteet. [3] produce+ u eBeU fhat is p6ydobgkQ and [31 Q An yoa .wae d wYMYU - MrRe tW. [41 nenuoMe: correct? [41 Do you l.ow wietYer aq utYm eoaQoW [5I A The eBacl it produces .poe dmahUoe [s1 We pmdvcn an eBea a..qYFe .uad [el D rwtmatws a.d nYvatie.. [e1 wtratid7 [7] 0 Okay. An yo. - do yua tww wYefYer ('7 A Yea, I do. [81 msenci Ms bean de.e to detawtee wYdYar that n.a [II) Q G. )w - do rl afYr a.Pn..b in3wee [91 respe.se i. produced by Isnoi, or eouisT [9] nu7 [10] MR. WED.: Ob[ettia.. Lack of [i0] A Yaa, 1Ye) b. [111 teeadatioa. ~ [I I] 0 WWant47? /- 1121 A 1 aw .et awtn ef aq lueacY us tYat 1121 A 7Yep rrk r.euial, npiai, CQZ, .-- [13] MS. BRACEIrL: Okay. [13] Yeat W enld, e+...o.. [14] THE DEPONENT: C.n we tate a 1Kiet Meat7 [141 Q 'M1"k Pass. [15] MS. BRACJflL: We u.. psl A U4MY. [161 THE DEPONENT: Olq. TYuk7ea [161 Q An p..w.n d eYr rserei Wt [171 [17] Dr. KabN dd Oat yw Y.n.Y Wi s aYua Wl ..~ N [1s] (Bna) [1a] f..ded by rMYy MarH Q ~ [19] [191 A Ne i a.a.tl) oeeirclle{ a.ntier mY/ W h"a [201 BY MS. BRACN'17.: Cm1 for ., yea. N [21] 0 Doctor, I believe before the bbeak, you [211 Q WYat ii tYe aud/ IY.t be Y ernd) Fr ~ [u] n:d Wat eee of ris llinp Dr. Kolrl kudied was the [221 m.3rtiq7 W 0 [231 effect of .icad.e ea the eepdve .umnl 9oteetial; [ul A R's bMialy .diq:.g tae Wer [2A] m.mctT [u1 that Na laqw Y.e m.e 4 wifY tYCa aa Yw [ssl A Co'ra3. [u] ia dwmonMBoWSxat8e, w" tYe9 dai.
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Aje 9 Pap 10 [ 1] PRANK GULLO'ITA [1] proceed oe vidp ar• eYw.etF*, adjo.ee the [2] was rew, aed teatiBed n fo0owr. [2] depadtbe kr 11 dan, a the we ooald propwy [31 (31 .euo,teyan..+ldeo. [4] DIRECT EXAMINATION [ 4] Mr. McDornll puwfl, wis7e [5] BY MS. BRACHR.: (5] Prew.ia{ Y4 o6jmYWr, epa.i b 4a petwd [6] Q Por the umni, I wi9 be tatlea thia [6] oe .ideo wYYe reeeni.g the obj.elo.r riel y. [ 7] depaaitioa far aw Eo1L ie the New vork utka ..d [ 7] jast eude. ( s] fe the Bu.r. .attex. [8] we tWt Ym fer YY pa6durl 1 91 Good setniy, Dr. Oulluaa. [ 91 eeusteq Y tW aWUr. [10] A Good uonind. [10] BY MS. BRACH7L: [11] MR. McDONNELL: Betwe we Mut, B 1 pe [11] Q Dr. GYNW, tate ram erw had 7ow [12) pt my objectlun am the record to the - Phillp [12] depualem takee bebtal [131 Merris wiY object to the latiq of this depo.k6e [131 A No, na'a., I Yare eot. [1{] at a.{deo depodtbm wit9nat it having 4eea peperly [14] Q OkaJ. rw nte }osir aoe.d Yu [15] eot{ad as a.ideo depodtae as required by [15] OaPW.ed the Sm..d nler 1e pe. I eeed b.ake [I6] Rule 202.15(C) of the Uadon. Rales applicable to [16] tue tYat 7oe eedenleed that Y}oe dne•t WwNad [171 trtal coarts ie New York, [1T] ry q.eqfo., poe eead te my o, W I wo repM.e [15] We objeC to the ewdaet ef tie [18] It. TM raa.on fer doi.g; ti.e Y bww Peopb wYo [191 depait6m ae a.ideo depodtbe aed to any ire ut it [19] bok at tMW .idee or reN OY trroyt aro Nuiy [20] as a.ideo deporitiom whether at trial or otketwue. [20] to ara.e, Y)Pae aawer .y Qeeaioea, tYet Pe. (211 TYn•e a.. [21] taderKeud rie.. 3e, Ple.w, V r. rtNV i te>r [22] Md. BRACHTL: It was my eedrJWedieg [22] way. ter ar, aed 17 try Y aaaie. [23] tYat the C]ar.Notioe of Depodlioe i.dFatad tlat it []3] B}ef wae[ b take a break at aq N.e, [24] was to be hkeY by video. I 4aned 7erterdq that 124] jutt a) p. [25] k dfd .ut. I asked Mr. McDoooeY whether we aold [25] Atl 7o..Yosld aeeer teJ .e aqtH.j Paje 11 Pase 12 [ 11 " 7our atterma7 Ism told you. Ecelude that Ao. [ 1] A Mr eMke te fe lM Te.er of the RawreY [ 2] aal Westionr that I ask you, Do Ioe eedetuaedt [ 21 PaepkS oe Cuwwens Road. [3] A I tHek I do, ya. [ 3] Q Atl 4 tYet i Rtri.n.df [41 Q Okay. AR roL I( yua eeed [ 4] A le RicY.oeQ earaet. [ 51 duiBatiom oa aqtYiy, rm va that Iar ooord [5] Q Okq. 7tiaek pa [ 67 w7l Be YaW b t.lk b 7a.. [6] A Er4.e .o, uN•a acteally i [ 7] MR. McDONNELL: We wil ask for brrcake ue ( 7) Chetfer&M Ce.ey, jrt eatride of RicY.oed. (81 appmatmatelr aa Yeud) ba'w. [6[ Q TYaek }oe. Do yee aoke, ir} [91 MS. BRACHP[.: WYc.e.er 7oe would like, 19] A Yey I de. [I01 7a ]rt ta7 ro. [10] Q Ted aae abc.t fuur s•oki.g YYlaf. wYel [11] MR. McDONNELL: We will. TYaeb. [11] I'd like b t.ow i whe. dY yeu alrt, Yew Med Yas [12] BY MS. BRACHTL: [12] 7ou rekW aori6aety, wYt ineb Yaw pu rbdY [13] Q Dr. Oellotta, yos an bw eld! [131 MR• MeDOHNEl1: ObjeMir. Ca.peLL [14] A P. 55. [141 q.ertloe. [151 0 A.d Telr rerideace addwn irT [15[ BY M5. BRACNIL: 1161 A 13065 Hill (7.b Laee, tiree separate [161 Q 041. Let r r4PYwn Y aN ask IFe [17] wwdt, Ashland, Viq(w. [171 dilferoet qamtlner Wteed. N [18] Q We're dlti.d Yen today i. It(eYwo.d, [18] W W did 7ea tlrt reki.{, YM 0 [191 ViqiW. I do.•t t.ow Virp.te. How Lr away ia [19] A I beYne i wM apprmL" wiea I wr W [20] A,Ylud Bo. Rkl.oed} [20] 15 Yeue dld. N [2q A ira .ppuat..eey 30 awn .oru. [21] 0 Ar wrt w.s the d.ee.r..a.a wy.r F„t [2=] Q Okay. Yee an e•,eerll employed by [22] swt.d b r.uker N [24) PYilip Mnaid [T3] A i wM iMtod.md b Y Iq a hieed ~ [24] A 'It,at'e mw=t. [241 0 Okay. Do pu ra.e.bw wYet hratl you [25] Q WYcra ir 7ar of&a aod! [25J Rt t.okeddt ..._i
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Page g1 about sctentifie issues ia vrtbw diuap0ua, Bnd tYea to aaser tawe things tlut we my wa.t to oonsider at tome Poiat Oundtinf whue there an sde.dfic pp, in the litartme aed thingW of that flatYll. Q Yoa uid t6at yne wem a rcseack scientist ie product .eaearck ha. '95 to '96t A Yes. Q What did you do after that? A After that, 1 waa ircietlt o" the W!f of [11] the director of researd doing the ume [121 rtsposnbi0tia. 1131 0 Manios the nwa rapoaabiliNa that [14] yoe did ituw '9S tu '967 [151 A Co..ecl. [16j 0 Okay. [17j A Aad t6ee I wu os the #atf ot the .ke [18] praideat for research, because the direaam took up {l~L'other rapeo,wwbititta, and that was the fatt8aet. 1201 Q Okay. And whea you were oa the staff of (211 the vice prewicat ot'eseard, yua did the we 1221 thing? 1231 A Exactly. [241 Q Aed k that where you cerceatly werkt [251 A No, Ihat k eot. Page 83 already eu.ered. I want to eute sem I was thorough. I asked yoa quesriou about the wah that Dr. Kobel did whca yoa wea la INBIPO, aed you've tatifwd you did sowe work wdk him; did yoe do woak while you were at INBIPO other tku the pqojats that yu wete workiug oa with Or. Kohalt [7J A I teI; yoar pum.t (81 Q Yes. NM1en you wen Is 1NBIPQ, weYe (9] talked about soae of the work that 7oa did with [10] Dr. Kobatt did yoa do work wlie yoe wea i. INBIFO [11] other ttun the ppojeoth yo" worked oe with Dr. Ko6elt [12] A Ya, 1 d61. [13] Q Te4 ne wYat tYat was. [14I A Badally, I worted oa oee fairly Wia 1151 study. (16] Q Wbat was that? [171 A It wu - tet•s scs, tCik is the tkk ot [13] k i. Im.t ot .e. (191 Q 7fiU document tWt we'.e marked [201 6xh,Lat 11 [21] A 71.Ps coaeaY. [221 Q Okay. So what was that study? [131 A It was a stedy u. tko eKeW of [~] dgarette t.okin3 ae wbleoti.e rorpo.wg aed ea the +. . pattao-rcvenal evoked potential. 22 Q Okay. WYat did )a Je after pa waie oa the ataff a(.fro proddea fer ,arnvi7 A I bay.e a sta/f .c~bea 1e 9deMMe Af(aut. Q A.d wiat did you da tYMet A Yoa won't beYero k, Ea eaaply the saae tH.g. Q I wi Defe.e Y. Are yoa ttlN ticrot A Ya,1aW Q Okay. Do yu. have a tiLLe .ua1 A Other tiu ttaft member SdeatiBc Affaio, I do.'t helien p. Q Okay. At sos.e Poi.t aloft the w.y, did you begte teaeHy u Vk{teia Co..o.weakk Usd.asky7 A Ya, 1 did Q Do you pil taltk these7 A UdwtaaatUy, .ot. Q WYen did yee teecY Ikae7 [201 A I taught there tor, I Saass, the two 121] yean Prior m-7 la'ef b CNoS.e. [22i 0 W.r did yee teaat [231 A I tYi.k the tkig ut the oo~.n wars [24] tr.duats and ..deroad+ue Peadptle.• [25] 0 1.ad b p 6adt ta oee ates, the we'.e Page K I ll Q Did yw ft.kk tkat s[sWyt (21 A That's eurteat [31 Q Wkat did yoe Wn7 141 MR. McDONNELl.: ObjMN.. VaSee. 151 BY MS. BRACML: Q WYat did yoa lera7 WYt wete the tewka of that LLrdyt MR. MsDONNBW Objwylw. Vape. A We iYd waw tlNYaea rwks i. Wt study. BY MS. BRACHTI: Q AW w.e a the +a.kf kad m do wkk .boti.et A it Yad to da wilk Noat.e ag deB.aed ie riprette saoka Q Okay. And teM ne wW He rawYt yes leu.ed aboa Yatf.e deB.erod is etpratle ,.er4. A 7Lt saatiq dpteBw witY BRae.t aioottae deliveries had eROCg oa two mrres of the Peka.+erasd e.oki Peta.rld; ae.ety, P1 or P100 ytexy aed Pi N1 a.pYUda. Q A.i wMl wae the e!!nt c" the Yte.ey7 A Tke p.wd effect wr tYt, wkYim certaie deY.eq levek, wokiq podead a deaene
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Page 21 PaBc 22 [ 1] Q 130. fin.. "M m'15, 7a [1] Q Aa 'ryk La .e repYya tia. As a [2] wem a research nuatast is the DcPanmest Of [2] Mewbe. 01 the BeYariaY Bleati Otoq t 1 31 Ps)cYotop at the Uai.enit) of Naw Merios; i that [3] PkiSP Mutri, wYat .cs )oor job r.Wo..biYls - . (4] riyht7 (4] krike tiat. [ 5] A lnat's cst,ea. [J1 wYa kia st .we si Vas an ie. )es [6] Q Okay. 75 to 76, yss soaised u a 161 wers ta tYe BeYadoed RmsaY Depuusea/ at [7J research auuta.e ia ue Dep.n.<.e ut Payehobp at [7j Philip Mw.+s eu. 77 W'n1 [ 8] the Ustveniy of New Mexico? I S] A I iiW4 turted sat w0Y stsdlet s. [9] A TYat's esnsct. 191 leatt rate, n6 taea I dii ss hri EEG tt.dcr, (10] Q 76 to 77, 3as wae a aitis{ atda+.t [10] aad tie- klNwig tYat, I did .uius kidt a[ [11] Proleror ia the Depnt.wat of Pqckobp at tks [11] evoked po/eatid A.dle, w erea.aitsd puteaH [12] State Uafversity of New York at Albuyi [12] stufies. [13] A '11at's pwmct. [13] Q 71u wr an fmn 77 b'82} [14] 0 A.d ia 'Tl, Tss becana a research [14] A 7Sat's esrtat. [15] sciestit tor Pkaip Mwrat 1151 Q Atl 7as did woak tYSa, did pa sat, [16] A 7Sat't cnttccf. [161 *xROdbiat the dlaci of dmtfr oa EEOT (17] 0 Pro. 77 to'82, wYsa pa wats a naeareY [171 A I eaai.ed tL sltem at a.okiq sa tM [181 scieotit at the Philip Morris RefearcY Ceater, wYat [18] EEO. [19] did yos do? [19j 0 Okq. E>piais M tb ].y, It yss weW, [20] A I wu a snLar of the BeLviwal ReseatcY 1201 Ple..e. wYat i EEQT [21] Omsp. [211 A 71s EEQ tstns ts tYs [12] 0 As a.e.bea of lis BsYarirJ Re.eatcl [22] dedroeaoopMlopa~ W i t4 wmwi{ at ti. [23] Q^aW. what did 3oa do? 1231 eledtiul.cH.iy of tY 6.aia. 1241 MR. McDONNELL: Oblectios. Va=se. Pots.. (24] I. Yswar, tii i br by PlsefaS [251 BY MS. BRACNIL: [2J] ebd.adn a tYs inlP, W thn tYA alsciodw an P.Be 23 Pap 24 [ 11 fed i.w aa:pWfeet, W tYS. Oe aapNtisa arc fed [ 11 wwpata aW.rowe.11. AM wYew ysu ds co.pstw [2] i.fo vuioa badt of rossrdift .achiw. [2] • nt• wLi yss ds iyas tsN the so.pYer to [31 Is t1e eul>' syb it wu f.pb Pea (31 bst at ssy tYat patt d t4 EEG tYat t..editey (4) mmrdt tYat rnwed dswa us Yr, Aw u tis weat (41 fslbwa us sti..b W r aW.cs t4 bP anlwta [S1 o., it got iaaeaps{I)• more ssphidated4 ss tLat [S] tsaieatisu sad to a.era8s tis 6ackpussd adi.it) b [61 you coWd wea.we the .atiwr aspeett sf tts EEQ, [6] mm. Asd w4s yss do tYa, >fas pt, a was fw. tia [ 71 ssri u the Pswer is tas 3Haroa hsqneacy 6a.6 [91 i rol.ted to the Praewtio, st ust rtis4r. ( 8] tYat tYe EEG ewdW u( e.d tWap af tFat eststa [8] Q Atl Br RN /aar aR lelawd b [9] Bat tYat'1, tasinRP, wYt tYS EEO i. [91 ai>'st aa P fsr Pndfis .r N iw aspt'ns; i 1Yat (10] 0 'llask )oa Asd yoa ais did a.okt4 [101 m.reett [11] poteatial research; amtecR [11] A In sat irhstw. (12] A 7Sat's sowect. [121 0 CoYd l's. saPits ts Hs j.7. Pisr, [13] 0 E:PWa to fb 1r2 wYt e.oted psteWal [13] wY.t, is tYS ti.Plrt Mta Y ws aa, wYst a P wlw [14] is. [14] Iow>m ia r spposel ss r N was /r.t [15] A A. evoked pute.li.l is Fat of the EEQ, 1151 A P si.p) sfan to pudf3viy, wYA i [16] a a matter of ]act, bMe it i a wns ]stw tYat i [161 EEG .c.e.datra ra/so 1o a. spward deBcalo. - [17] evoked trom the EEO eitier by a Katsq Weulss of [171 eraw s, 1.iryob, a bw.w.rlleBectisad ri's [18] ass ki.d, a.ri as a.iad aNsair or asdYay (13] kid of instai - N [191 tti.alss sr s Wsci or evn a weR or a taas, or it [19] Q PsdtM i dswswaM ~ [20] a. be u eado8ewst tti.ahr, such a. wki.S a . [20] A Carts.t. Nst WrwWry ss, Eat twt W [211 1a68.rost. A.d wie. sas si tiss tWp oav, tlero 121] waa tM maeNioe at ar dsr, ad 1 thl fotiow ~ N [22] i a taq a..Y ""84- `-Od put of tYe EEG 1Ya i (221 it. I~,t [73] relatne to 1Ys activity st Oat rtLsuir. Bst Y'a [271 AW N mtas to Y upward deBectlna. N [1A] .eq s.dl, 1ur tb .aa put, W)sa aa't me it [241 Q A.4 .M, .iem ar bots at npau af W [23] ia the b.ck8romd EEO, w wLat yss must do is do (251 EEQs, ar ma Yttle w.lron spt to ris P or tYs N,
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Paie 65 Paje 66 ( 1] iCs appropriate. Ase low A.emoa Yis .ot b [ 11 TWek Toa ( 2] arwer that qeestiaaT [ 21 MS. BRACffiL: ll..k !ea [ 3/ BY MS. BRACKPL: ( 31 BY MS. BMIaiTL: [ a] Q Let we ad[ k a SnM 6it dillmeWy. [ 4] Q Naw ya. rNai..i ecpiet d tYcee tsm L SJ Na.e !e+ w.da available to yor cuumal dxmwats is [51 reports? [ 6] ywv Po.tcoio- or au.ttolT [6J A Ya, 1 Y..a, [y1 MR. McDONNELL: 1. manectb. wit! [ 7[ Q Okay. Td r, plute, what they tay. [ S1 litiptio., that :T [ S] MR. MeDONNELL: i7 hj.e a. yo..i (9] MS. BRAC7(iL: RfgYt. [91 that tW qamttoa it.agw; I.e.., taro.d ryps d 1101 MR. McDONNELL: And reqoae for [101 dows.ear, ad they pre.ar6ly ry a Wse ...ker, ef [11] pmdoctlo.! [11] tkinp. Maybe 7oa m.ld tailor tM qceaio., [121 MS. BRACHii.: UY.kuY. (121 BY MS. BRAC1iIL: (131 MR. McDONNELL: Yon w, arwu that [131 Q AR rigkt. Pd like yoa to tell .e wIW [M] quettlo., DaYm. [14] D.. Laltie- (131 THE DEPONENT: My doconeeta Ya.e bee. 1151 A L.jtk.. [i6] Pmduced. [161 Q LaJtk. - tWk yon wy ..ci - eeponted 1171 BY MS. BRAt7i11: [17J to yw abo.t tY raaaYa ef Ya rtWas oo.p.d.S 1181 Q Tie two dxaxas tkat Tnu sure afent.g [131 .imri.e u ooeai.. [19] w, did yoa give tkea to yovi ceundT [19] A I beSe~. these wwe tay proS.i.axy, 1201 MR. McDONNELL: Objectio.. 1'S Wtr.et [20] docnaea., a.d they .ms wae is the adw d [21] k6. act to ..awcr that qaptb., [21] .etiwlolop repab. Ar at tM tis I roroMd (2y1 MS. BRACHTL: Okay. CouMd, I eodd 6e [22/ tke.e decu.eab, I dn.Y tkik be had bnked at 1231 wtmq, Mt I do.Y tki.k sx\e aoBen those (23] cecai.e at ar. L2!] doaum.tu, fo I wouid atk yoa tn ptedurn theae to :r. L24] 0 Ar BSM. Did Ye teymt b!na a6o0t [!s] MR. McDONNELL: The request fY .oted. [2T] aa7 eea.kt he Yd lea.d M dua in ki .t.dies d Paae 67 P.je 63 [11 denti•e in doi.g tb .ioadWyd. C.dta on tk. [ 11 Q FYa Ys dc.n tt l.eT [ 2] baiaT [ 2] MR. McDONNEIL• ilawu arT _ [3] A To the bea d.p .eray, tkat'a oaroct. [ 31 BY MS. BRACN/L: (1] 0 A.d what dW ke .p abuat wYat YY [4/ 0 1W ke do.e 1r .apni.rrt yatT .. [S1 6udiet thowed abnut .imtlaeT [31 MR. MeDONNELL• Which sspMi~en! [61 A I do.R reatl tkat i...n peat defai. ( 6] BY MS. BRM3ili: (7] It's been a wkBe dece I looked at t6ew. [71 Q The ewpai.ed at.qa::d eeeai.e a.d [8] Q TeY we wlut you do 1ecaL 191 /ICOtiae 1a tNvai dmirnodialyi d tRe bbai.T [91 A I rec.tl tkat ke wu aMe te o6taia [9/ A It'a ry rdeKaadi.3 tY/ ke W.'t ated [10/ P.edictddc 1e.e4 of dmd.e i the 6tW .fa the (101 ooeaiae Y tW paiat Y tlr, tY's odP t+een [111 .dpoNat9d. Pmhe ahea ke had Sivea w..erY L711 rtadyioS aicoti.e a ffr. [121 diRere+t b.eY d.icntt.e. AW I recall a plut of [121 0 N.'t earteab wtkYS en the ppojeR; [13] t1a - d IYnae data, L.t I do.'t OaacUy txaR 1131 oeneaT [11] wYat it wy. (111 A 7Lt4 eomal. [131 Q OtSv Han the two wtitten reports Toa'ro [1SJ Q Ptior b the riady tkat Dr. L.j1M dY [16] dua3ed to ., 4t Ye ~efidy reponed ta yw [161 ar is doi.S, ate yw awRe d aq aYet - da you L17J aboat the P:opcr of kit ttedinT [17] know whether PYWP Motrin did ar ktrad aqo.e aYe [13/ A Tkat•a carax, [18/ u do studies mmprtia3 axatae ad :mtiae! N Q (191 0 What ku he teportod to yw! L79] MR. McDONNELL: Atl the "sellers, i W 1201 A tb't basically reported to r tlut the [20J whether PkiSP Matris di or kket aqbdy aYe b y..t [21] ttata that ke waa able to faccert.Yy, iapya tke [21) do! ~ [221 probes a.d tkal ke .u t.oee..fdly, aable to inpLa a L221 MS. BRACII7L: RiSYt, righl, tiSYt. W [21] .e.d .aw, ki.d d a ppabe ud tkat Ye .u ie.ua3! [731 THE DEPONENT: I wwld.'1 ekradMs Y [241 te.ufq.p to do the e.Pai.e.h /er.kkY.etuaded (2A] a. Yired. [251 " [ss] MS. BRAIaiTL: Okay.
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ss ~ odorants aert PeuPle aad other odwaw PaBe 54 [ I] THE DEPONENT: Mn.t W tie tir I was at ( 2] te.ad nmiaa peopb. Aad Ye's tryi.8 n.erify [2] ( 3] that. (31 [41 Q ll k atodqiu8 dwti.e is tiat reprdt [ 4] [51 A No, Ye is aot. (51 [6] Q Aro you awarc of aet ot4er muarci Nut [6] [7] Dr, Kobel i duin5 or Yu doae (or PhiBp Mon6t [ 9] (81 A Pat lure I'at m4tio{ teme, Mrt - Pm [ e] [ 9] wre t6ero are otbco thrt they an, ent osw>ic5 n [9] [10] oe at the Prcw.t tiWr. [101 (III Q Doa Dr. Kobai do Yis work u INBiPO or (11] 1121 does Ye have Yii ow. taaBiy! [123 (13] MR. McDONNELL: Objectba. Poundat{oa. [13] (141 BY MS. BRACHTL: [141 1151 Q Do roa kaow wiether Dr. Kob.i does W (15] [161 work at INBIPO9 1161 [17] A He Yas his own ha'8ty. (l71 [18) 0 I uked 3or u`Yau wh5 lor we.t n (181 [19] Qen.aot, a.d Tou sad R was p that 3aa could 6e [191 1201 cWvs to Ds. Kobal; did Toa wort - did tw do your [201 [21] work at IHBBPO while taa were ie amW)t [211 [221 MR. MeDOHHELL: Pus 8o1n8 to objeca n 1221 1231 that ck.ruteriratbn of w teMLw7 as iecoaqlele, (231 [241 6ut qpxai If lo. Bke. lu] M MS. BRACHTL: T6aet yoa. Page 55 ( 11 L yov aaswe, that Ph4 Morris wanted to rcAece [ 21 w U.s. uaee [3] A 7fat is aut wMt I aamerod. My [ 4] aatwar waf they waated my work to aeatt.us, but 6 [5] the aase tise, they were SoieB WouBY au.d.ted head (6] waae redoctioat, w Wt .7 naader to ( 7] PM Iemtaatbul wu, ia 01(eet, a Yeed anYt [ 8] ftducfi- [ 9) Q Cadd tna Ya.e dees 7wr work u well r [10] the U.ifcd S1ates a. }on did at IHBtPOt [I1] MR. WEIL: ObjeeNa.. [12] BY MS. BRACHi1: [131 Q Strike tYt [141 Did you Ya.e the sa.e hc0ida (151 avaBa61e n you ter dotng )a.r woat is the [16] Uaited Slatro u tow did i. INBIPO7 [171 MR. McDONNEW Coald we Set a [18] det•r-'mUoe a to tLaeT [191 MS. SRAC}RL• Sun. Yu. [201 MR. McDONNELL: Pao saq, I tlWa't aw. (211 to iaemqt yo.. [22] BY MS. BRACHII: [271 0 The worlc that yon did t. INBIPO Aaa 1992 [24] to 1995, wem the f.cilirie. that pr aud to do that [25] work {. IHBIPO abo a.u'lable to to. AainS that IHBIPO. BY MS. BRACHIL: Q Okay. WM. }e..eneY at INBIPO, wYwe vere In.t A Son.ellates I ws L ErYaee., E.R•LA-HO-EN. 0 Oou Ph:1'P Mart4 W a Tacil(y tieeeT A Nu,tYqdeeol. 0 Dii PYiiP Monis me Yate a!ae'Yl? lYmeT A To my ko.Mdpe, they ae.er Ld a laa6'd) Nae. Q Where did you do 7mr work ia ErWeeN A At the whartt tYw. Q WY tYale aaN~ reaw - Ms@e rial. Other tiaa u}u.'.a akeWt tntYfN, wau 1Ye,e a reana why 3oar wnrt wu de.s at 1HBIPO 4Wead of ie the Udted Statst A 7Ly .aated tor ne an eoetlre my wak, . ucy wen apMeufa{ Maar r.we Naa cea.t vedewfo.s at 1Ye q.e, a.i by tra.Aani.g ar to PM l.taatia.d, Nat would b..e ba., a rea8 oo.a raNactlaa. [7.5] Q P. .ot'we 1 ..doshad yver ans.er. PaBa 56 (11 Puiod of tY.e ia ttle UWa/ NafeaT [21 A MaR - aa. l1e fimt ar.ar i.a. 131 0 Okay. What was aat ta6.ble u)•a. Y (41 tYe U.ited Statas tlrt wat avai.bk M tou tYt poa (8 ued ia lHBIPO fio.'921o'16T [6[ A We/,btnecW* i4 Ian.Wy (7l labontaq (mw the U.S. b/NBIPO, w it was [el 6asiCaR3 w wwa .q.lp.ar. (~1 Q 7ia.k you. ARar YJ, lau e.s brk n (lo] w Ue+tee Suta.; WW [i1] A T4CaonmR 112] 0 Ad did 3ear jab tltla riaaBet [131 A Yq, Y dY. [14[ 0 What did Y beeo.et [t$ A WN, Yh beao.e a..nd dYfopea 1151 thievs, actually• [171 Q Would yos tell na dro.ob8key - [18] well wYat was 1M 11nt tW{ Y 6araart N , O [191 A WY.r I iiNially oa.a 4aek, I aur 6ut ~ W (20) n a 8.i8oa that wu eded pobat ee.eneY. F+ (211 Q Okay WYNwafaw ltWt N [72] . A Rewad sierY. f-+ ~ [231 Q What -..e..ae you Msed .derit W Ir [24] I. poaaot nuartlr [1S] A PaaPPmrimaWS-aPPnvalanstella7ear
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Pasc 97 PaBC 94 [ t] A I t,eGe.e le't wiW the .ame fi.a eE.a [ Ij Q Y9b .e.e the etier PnoPb tYt werc [2] Mr. McN.xby i.Ui. ba I ca.Y be oetlim an that [2] p.uea7 [3] Peint. [3] A 'M1ere w, I 6db.a, W I avW be [4] Q How .bmt Mt. Mmyp)7 (4] .iwkra, Ea I LeBew tYan .as a Mr. Da.Y at er [5] A I o.Y WI 70., actonuoat<l3. (3) twa ad a MW Reed el a.oNrr H.e. [6] Q Okay. O1ha t5u - i addition to the ( 6] Q Okay. Ds }om kur wb Mr. Daw i7 [7] W.e yon qilat iY LcMo-faoc .mNop wrtY yuv [7] A Mr. Da.b is r nronq. [a] 00UN-J. ata 7on m.q Ptwr+tion so, w. [a1 Q Okay. De Pom k.o..rl M..'. .wT [ 9] depe.Mo. w&Y mamel war the pb.e7 [91 A I beee.e Y Y wRk e\n..s a.d - I [10] A OOar tYU WNeB noetie8 ti.n ..d the [10] c..'t - [I1] Y'ke7 (l1] 0 SIerY.aT [121 Q Yn, aYivL [I21 A BIaBq, m.nct. [131 A I doa't tkink .n. [131 Q WYo do they neprelta i fnbacco [l4] . Q Oka7. Ya.Ye Bfvea 111e the aaales of [14] liti8atio.; do )em tww7 [IS3 fivs 4w=en wYo .et wOk yon in preqralbn tor [15] A Mr. Da.Y raqae.ta .a. [13] 7e.r depoutb.: at aa7 tiss ducts8 say aeetl.8 whY [16] 0 OY, 1 w. Pmfu.ally7 [i7] tiom 4w/en b Propare hx 1our depoddo., did [17] A Yat [l8] aasseos eYe enae iaro the mo.7 [18] 0 Atl MI. Raek il ie a YwW [19] A Curtecl. - 1191 A Ya, IYa ir [201 0 Okay. WN" dfd o.eo.e eYe aoae Mo [20j Q WiYY wYua7 [211 tke Iao.7 [21] A PtaMMMI i la.do.. [22] A 7twe-r..mp..keaT [22] [2;] Q s... [21] (Mr. BYan i p.rr.) [24] A I n.Y teY yow eaacBy wYu, ba thae [24] [2S] were etler 1060010 Preteat, Ya. [2Tj Q PRJMW /r the rr ar a 1ims7 PaBe 99 PaBe 100 [ 1] A Yw, au'u. [ 1] 0 Atl .Yat Y Y a6oa IL Wae uf par [2j Q WYo doa PraukTielh reprcaeat - urDe [ 2] wurk tYat rds )w dedde .nl b keep a naeroY [ 3] tb•1. [3j aatelnok7 [4] Doea Prahfieidl reprae.t PWtlp Mort47 (4) MR. MtOONNELL: Olyectk.. FawdWo.. [3] MR. McDONNELL: t.et aa duiry wYlt wq [ 9] A Well, IM .ubbooka h.inly mrked [ 6] be - [ 61 af rarorb ae ww /wr aM ...aiul asrraanb [ 71 MS. BRACH77.: 71a.k 7oa [7] of wa.e far, ad the f<sYa"am ray e.taed .. ( 91 THE DEPONEN'F. Mear. [ 8] tior i.b a.aabeek. .W it waW Nw Ya.. [91 MR. MeDONNELL: Mi. Rwd, 7.ditY Raed, 191 mArd.at b mp) tYas ad pt W. Y a' aeteLoek. [10j wes Inwdod or loaaed by FrqkPtolb to Bru.a. k [10] BY MS BRAG2RL: [11] Btetiq a.d wurkcd wYk Red Davis in the u.a, i. [11] Q 9o a laiddls kept tY. LerrY [12] tkf.. [12] .ote6ook tur tYs raeerb Wt 7.w iY a [13] MS. BRACAIL• Bo Mir Reed lepac.q the [13] PMlip Mani{ e.ni! [14j WBra pero.alFjT [14] A Par the wual prt, yes. [is] MR. McDONNELL: YeaY. BYa aadus [1!7 Q Wdl, wt tMn aq nsrds tYt 70. W [l61 Mr. Da.it in rcpracati.e tks wit.er. [161 at PWtp MmY fot wkirh a nteawi awehmk ...t [1J1 M8. BRACFif7.: Okq. 71..k 7ep [17f kept by weer7 N (l8] BY M8, BRACAIL: [18] A Nw - ~ [19] 0 In doi.{ 7or meartY at PWYp ManY, [19] O Okay. A.i .M. Pou wan at INBIDO. ws a [20] have 7ow kept a raeare! .eleEuok7 (20] rep.¢Y .nt.book kept ef par waek7 ~ N 1211 A Benre af the .at.e at the wo.k, I [21j A Y., Y w. F.a [221 did.t teep reuarei .debm4 [22] 0 So Br r P.m tao.. aal Wo laelwr ~ [231 0 h tkat ..rad fo. a tawcYert ['211 .Me6uolo +li Y eaW.a today? N [24] A Nut a rmearcYer dutee my ki.d of [241 A A6.o4td). [23] meareY. C13] 0 PWIp Mnnil W tke.T
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PaQe 37 Pap 38 [ 11 Q Did Philip Mom. erer give Yin peynaet [I] aawpW:W of rtlnd" ddi.wA vie the e1ts.Wp ( 2] fur aotu8 or eviatiu8 is retee,rit [2] .erne .ea the tri{.mmi.r e..e: is that .yrt [31 A Would yoe repeat the qaeatbd [ 3] A 71et'Y aoturW, yr. [ 41 Q Sore. He wafYt en employee, 6ut wu Ye 141 Q WY, w.. K that De. KahY dii NY apt [ S] e.ar a oonuka.t ar did Philip MortY pay Yim e.er [ 5] on dfactoq ttl.uqtlo• rd, wr it wrowWfet [6] fm doin8 or esd¢io8 ia uteeacrit (6] A So.aa.eaop. [ 7] A 71eP, co~ [tl Q snwomnnyt [ 8] Q I'u wrt7, I didaY ask tie qoertioe 18] A Yet. [ 91 riBM. [91 Q WMtt viee it M dfd tYt raeucYt [101 Did PhiOq Mooit evee pay Dr. Kolwl for [l01 A I tiiek - e.e tae e#etting to the wurt [tt] etsitttin8 in retearcst 1111 that .e Po.aed wttr - [121 A Ys. I would ha.e to uy lel. [121 0 1.., A..k tsa [13] Q Whee wes that? [131 A AII tiBYt. I 6dthat woeY Y.e [14] A 71erc wem weul8raeb, I tliak, that [14) 6eee noeed IYe .i8 1980,. [[5) we gave to Dr. KobJ. [IJ] Q Okq. Di8 tw wat - Ai to. Y that [le] Q The peete wcro to do wYet wotkt [I6] work with YiWt [17[ A 71e Idtld peet, I believe, w.s to [17] A We Ye.e .debwalN Y the pat. [18] wdy the reletioethipa bet.xa oB.ewq [18) 0 WeR, did toe mr.4orda - the work [19] ttiteu4tio, a.d .oeuta.eawr); by thet, f.u., [19] that Ye'e doi.g ae oYecmty Itl.Wtlon ed 120] trijemieel eene Wteu4tbe. [70] wam.w(y [mpone, dd ye. do that -[trOr. [211 Q And tri{emfa.l eet.e Yu to do wki [21] that. [221 dd6ct^f pungency; cotreutt [22] Dr. tWbel did wert fet PYYp Motti [23) A A.oeg et.e< t.rp, yee, .e'e., tt .r. (t3] ee eB.ote.= ta..rm. er .rm.e..ety teWe.me [u1 correct. [24] te W'BOI: did yam wtidp.w +e tiet .ert with [25] 0 And the tem of turJ, reallf, fU [2S] tlst Pap 39 hp 40 [1] A Oely noieetiepk. (1] a, I tYi.k tlte eatlf adnnek that Ye red wme Yte ( 2] 0 Okay. And w.u the p®pnr of tYet work (2] ren11m eed 8.ueeee aei ODi eei berddeYyde. [ 3] to kan t9e eRect ef .eoki.8 oe - atn'ke tY.t. (3] tbtop ef that ee/.e. B.t SYey w..e feNf - pace ( 4] Was the pmpote of that work to nWOro 14] ndonMt, Mn had vatia.e ppe6iYie, of ei0[x 151 reryeme to amuttos by ewemimg olhcta7-deN.ercd [ Jl [WeW.tlee the oY.Coq es.e f xieelai.8 the 16] mmwlt 161 tdBe.tW eu.e. [ 7] A No, k vraf .ut. [ 7] Q 'Md yO.. tBMt elYee taeewA - mike [8] 0 Okay. Did that wark Yae eq[Neg m de [ 8] that 191 niu .••su^'_ng rcspoem w t.oktn8t [ 9] MBip Mon: p.e teeata peen to (10] MR. McDONNELL: Objectioe. Vejw. Ne.e [10] Dr. KobN, yaolr iaerJbed wYet that Mt paet wee [tl] uytYiq to do witl. [il] fer, ed the .emd w ws f.r v Wt [12] MS. BRACH7L• AII right. Let .e etuk [12] A He had w.nl peMe. 6ut I o.e't eta/ [131 that. [13] Ote e+eet saryeeoe M tlie u.os WA - [t4] BY MS. BRACHfL: (14] 0 Okay. [15] Q Did that wwlc aoau dMa.ieies [15) A - mt w teeaea r.Minee u.e.. 116] roryore -.- pY)siola8ical .etpa.e to .ewldq [18) Q t.« .e ask tw qees{ee dif/wer4: cee [17j by e:amidej o1Lct«y-0Nt.uea tti.uRt (17) 7am te8 .e .rc the .h)eUe of ,e.enta .eee ua [181 A 71,a work did eee involve soHq et et (18] aYer peete rY'lip Morti sne r Or. Kab_Yt N (19] 0 Okay. Oid it have nytYieeB to do witY [19] MR. MaDONNELL: Ww. ~ 1201 :mti.et [20] Mi. BRACiRLt Wen. [21] A No, it did eut. [21] THB DEPONENT; We f..deA w.e feiY/ ~' N [u] 0 Okay. AY ti<ht. WYet did that work [221 bede eei.el ri.diq niy [W d.u feeded e Ir (A [23j have to do with? [2s] eo.her of re.es ttedle. N [24] A We were, to the 6M ot my .eeoq, (24] BY MS. BRACHTL: J [7S] intetested ie the rapn.nw of pqw odonnts, wcY [2S] Q 'M1a YWI [lndiee deeYrg witY.w,
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i Pue 69 PaBe 70 [ 1] THE DEPONENT: We toaded grants to study [ 11 bni.f ( 21 .atioue compouud.. (21 Nero's wY.t rm daio{. My erYm [3] BY MS. BRACFffL: (3] 48et<ier werc eorwpui.{ wootl.e Y tawi.e, an [ e] Q T6aet 7~ Let .e break .1 4uad- [+1 Amtet abuul eo.puin.. Let9 ].N 41t aboot, ( S] dowa Did PYiBp Monis do u2 i.ioow work ( S] othx tYu as )o.tie alreed) tdl9ied, W ( G] oanPuioj cocat.e to .iwtiael ( 6] Ph81P Moni dooe e- ff.ea R+ab ta a.Pnoe te do [7] A Not tn q taowkd8e. [71 studid oa eoeai.eT [8] Q Ota7. Philip Morris did give p.o4 to (81 MR. MtDONNELL: Ob]eqio.. CGOpn,d [9] Ea.e 2aea.cr do.e comparin8 onniac ro.icaH.e; 1. [9] qveYln.. [SO] that right? [l0] A Other tW the ao Isueotiori, aa, rt (1I] MR. McDONNELL: Objectiw. Pouod.tio.. [iil to mT t.owkdp. [121 A TWt9 cotrect. [12] BY MS. BRAC.9irG [13] BY MS, BRACi71: [13] Q TY..k 7cet, TeB r, PWr - we6, [14] Q Okay. How nao) weY jnutb Y.. [111 PM'dP Abni has gi.er ewo p..ty. Lx'a take the [I5] Philip Mo..: pvea7 (iS1 6nt o.e that pum wms aww at. WYen ws tYa [161 . A I be8m we'te in total at this Hwn ]161 gnat yi.eal [171 1.adio8 two {raats. 1171 A TYe Rot paa, I tWk, wr d.r Y [18] 0 TYa.t p.. Other tY.& the two that [181 19% i.YLmir. (191 )a ue Nodio{ aow, has Philip Mnrrit funded aq [19] Q To whoe wr it Si.rt [201 paMt io the put to .tudy tapi.e oumP.red m [20] A It wr 8i.am b Dr. Michael BorrJ. [21] a7mttoe7 [211 0 1bw woWd )or qoB ti.t} [22] A Not to ny taonkA(e. [21] A Bq.ZA.R-T-N. (23] 0 Let r duep the quatiom a Yttle bit. [23] 0 Do 7ua m.e.br wYa. Y'f4 t4 g.a [21] How abert has PfiBp Monk de.e oe Si.ea pnh to [241 was the.T [27] asYn.e tn do send4e on the etteW ae coeaiee ao eLe [15J A 1 beKe.e Y w.n wward tfr lapw pne Pa{e 71 Page 72 [11 of 1991. ( 11 THE DEPONENT: By that, do pa.er Y.d ( 21 Q A.d Dr. BouttY worked whueT (2] he W uy pub frout Philip Mon47 [ 3] A He works at State U.i.etaity of New Yort (31 MS. BRACNII: Yea [ I] at Buffalo, (4] THE DEPONENT: Nat IM aq t.owNdlls, n. [ Jj Q What wu tYe racaml kir wEiti the 8ra.t 151 BY M0. BRAQiiL: [ 6] wa gi.en to Dr. Bonrttt [6] Q 7Se.t Po.. Nr D.. BeoM aonpkfd K [ 7] A Ne wo 8ai.8 to eo.datt a wYo4 taiea d 171 rpend:t [8] cryeci.eMt. [ 8] A I belte.e W prt nr to Detewbar d [91 Q What wem trwe esQeri.e.q7 (9] tW year. [101 A TYe i.itial e:petiweat., I beBo.e, weee (101 Q Hr Dr. Bo.uth reported an tYe Ptopett (111 wilY 6uik gf.alaic..ewod, wiA tYe 6ni. [11] e/ Y4 raeueit [12] stiwolatioo reward pata:epo, [12) A To tYe aekaiBe eoa..oit2 er 1. [131 0 Ad wu re oo.q+aiy 6eain aimdatiuo [131 PYVp Monie? (14] tewud tn cee.tm aod otooNoet [111 Q To PLYp Manis. 1151 A Awu.e atier mnpoy.dt, lea. (131 A He tr .r/. P.io~e Aaper ropM. [161 Q What other ouapo..dt wat b Wdyin87 (161 0 N.e 1e rqew.i t. W aehric (17] A Yen are eofa8 to etrotri q raoq, lwti [171 oa.ecdyT [781 they i0chatictil pacadooplesides, eattd.e, fo.o [18] A Yet. Ir Ira, N ~ [191 n.uALecou.ter aaWWa.1.m, whichi I e..Y renL (191 Q (o wY.t way W h reported to tM W [t0] 8ee, ra .ut directly reqpuiWe rus ur p..q n (20] +ck+tNe eon...Y3T 1..+ (21] 1 oa't - there were aboa foor o. Bro dlUfere.t 121] A is tYW lan of eLpaM. Mue.tei at N [22) comPeunds a1tuW8er. . 122] edeatiRe .eetiop aad ia tYe /o.a of wb.iwioa M w 1731 0 i'rior to 1994, had Dr. BaaA o.er du.e [231 deatBlc ]or..Y. ~ [3N1 u) wpt fue PYBip Man7 [2t] 0 Hae the rb.iNiou to B» adealRe [23] MR.McDONNELL: Fa.W.tio.objeetb.. [25] ]ow.a46eeoPublitYed}
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Pese 93 (11 BY MS. BRACHTL: [21 Q He.e yen eva jf.ee writw rwws [3] tntknos77 [41 A I dwY rcpll eeer avkK {irea wrkte. [9 -d-Olr7• 161 Q Nave 7u e.a tuboittW .n afHd.a i. [n [81 Y7 tiliplio.7 A No,Ia.eeot. 191 Q Oa7. D{d 7o. Prep.n for poar [10] depoutiw7 [Il] MR. McDONN£LL: ObjerfW. VaSue. Wat do 7o.- by "PreP.n fnr yen depo&ia.•7 BY M& BRACFiiL: Q Did 7oa do ..7thiu{ b pep.re br ym depudtbn fndq7 Do 7ov eedent.tl7 Do yaa wut .e tc euk k df!(ere.N77 A Ycd. CaJd 7u., pleau. Q Sac. Oid 7os- 7ow aaw tkat 7oa depodtion waa juiq to Y.ppee tod.r did 7ua do •sytMn< tu tet ready for k. sar& u look a doc.sseas u.eet wRi 7o.r Yqer or talk m aqo.e7 So tYe qw[k. Y: Did 7oo do uqtMng ta pepn for 7ov depa.kb.! MR. MeDONNELL: Lclodint Wose tkroe things? Page 94 I I[ BY MS. BRAOITL: 12) [31 Q Or u7tkiq eke, Oaee ne e..mplea7 A 1 did ed laek t dwa.er.. 1 dN srrt [41 (51 wW m.reL 0 OUw Bws nectie{ wkh eommel. dY 7w [61 do uylkiy 1o Prepus fw 7ast depoiioR7 [l] 18] MR. MeDONNEIL• Bh se ..pe. M& BRACNIL: I rk k 1n e.aq [91 depnutio.. Nobody W eeer rde Wt abjra6.. I [28] ree that 7en aue aeali.e, rd kl .e tp d be • [11] ku{e .ore deu. [121 MR. McDONNFIL• I'm ppd.{ tYt be [13] sk..ed eHs .m.i.g. 7atS wket I.a.. [14] M& BRAQiTL: Okay. A/ eidl. (151 BY MR BRAClRI.: (161 0 lct .e Le .on syes:Bc .N YPs Rrt 1171 wilk weeti.{ wkk cesad. Yw dY ret vBk yen (18] eo.rel to Pr<pen (er p- depniNe.; *kr! [191 A i rl wkk r1A mareb 7s. [201 Q Ar vke srs Ba PM cn.rd wY4 wkp. 7e. [211 .x7 172] A i, as d(Bmrt aae.Ifew, aet wkk [73] Mr. McDu..e&. L.t r rk. 7es ra qmdBe.B7 (24] rpeati.{ with raspea r Mk dcpork+oH [2Sj 0 AMnlaey. P.{e 95 I S] A AB rijM. I met wkL Mr. McNU67, I 1l reeY7 - te{p /e./ - [21 Mr. Hukio ..d e..nioes aoudoes Mr. Mmpk7. 1[ 21 0 AM r>,M. [3] [4] MaB.. [5] 1s] (7] THE DEPONENT: YeaL Aad.eubs MR. McDONNELI: Eoo.6 Ra 1Ye Irkk orc.don, Mr. N.Je7. BY MS. BRACRlL: aRo{elim reetieg wkk lawyers to pepN for yaw depositk.7 A Pd sq, is preper.tlos far tkk depoW6e, .ro .et .qbe fi.e tlnn. 0 Okay. AtltrJlrko.bei7o.tki.kY Bwee S.s tl.er 7em rpsa pre9ut.8 for 7ur deporkio., sse.okK Iia H k wu tMes kars or day ud reren kere IM sart day; what was the m W e.e.et of riws tia yen tlY.t 70. qeM neeei.g with rn7en to be pepercd tur 7uar deperBOd A Ws would oat ypiwty kue .boat 9:00 ..d Be4k .6oa 3:00 wkk 6reety ler k.d aad otLx (zi] ewoss. [721 Q AII rtdM. Wan w.s ris Rnt tl.. 7o. 1231 rset wkY Iaqen k, pePen lor 7ar depork6.7 124] A For tkk depo:BO., yRk, let ne tYi.t . [2f] wieutc. I would fuefs r¢ meW ago. but k4 A -NIMrPoin. Q Waro eB af tks swetiqt Y kw7en• oflkes7 A N.,tYqerwM. 0 WYpe wara the reB.p7 A Let r tieqe tYt eawr, h.ras u.e - k wa akn .eeliq i. 1ke Legal Deprt.eet dPMrwcB. Q Okay. S. Y e.e os.idm. the Ispi DepuLea af PM fu ke s rwWs olke, r tk. .oetYp.en in rw7ws' otlims; k Wt r7skt7 [14] A Yu, tkM's.ertrt [S51 Q Wke i Mr. N.d57 (16] MR. McDONNELL: Mdluby. [1'1) BY M& BRACNIL Uel 0 Okay. I V.'t ti.r..ke Ye k. WYt I (19[ wrdr k. sYl LLvs k Y.Rk .r Y ke irkes (281 manel7 [2l] A Ns i.ot i.ko.w au..d. [221 Q Oa7. [2.71 A BetLLr.w-tai Wdqrt.ndi. [7A1 New Yort. I o.Y re.e.6er tke Rt•. [75] 0 Okay. Ho..boa Mr. Hartlr7 N O I
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Page 57 PaBe 58 [ 1] and a half - wdl, ao, approximately a year. [1] eBeels qoducsd by uiosa sWrtaas r- [ 2] Q So that would be, toushry, how '95 m [2] pkn.aoob8id mhtla.cee w the ar.o. qMer. [ 3] '967 [3] Q Nicotine Y a PYnwaoaWZkd mhfa.ee; [ 41 A That•e sccurate. 1a. [ 4] conectt [ 5] Q What work did Toa do tkeu for [5] A Nirnti.e W r a6eet an fie em.es [ 6] Philip Moniat ( 6] systw, correct ['>) A i aCua43 kad ae.enl rapoa„bBities. (7] Q Ie aimtiee a- deae :mt4 paiee a [81 Q A.d they wemt [ e] pka'wamb83d eMec[ w the w,mas .2nemt [9] A My Rnt rcaponutiBq was to felbw [9] A I wn.W irw to ry )ra. [10] the literature is tarious areaf aed m repowt (10] 0 Okay. io doia{ pur Ikaetara review (11] deveNpneats ln wna8emeat. My second uea d [11] en the effetts of [12] fe,pombi8ry was to o.enee some kraels tkat w [121 aamopa~d~opkawaooN~O7.pw.d.ei.8 sa6rta.ees, }pa [131 were fu.din8. And the thkd respo.sibiBry was - 1131 searelwA ter, eMewe/ aed rcpMed e. Ikenl.e w [14] well, that came lalu, .etualiy, was ln tei.e on a [14] aimNae piodndng that elfect; .(gYt} [iS] vam ealkd the Technical Ay,--- Team [151 A A.oy atYs oo.pori• eartus. [16] 0 Yoe followed the iduatur4 a.d reported [161 Q Yes a.maw paate In aq P.NCJr ' [17] m.w5e.eae itcratme oa what wbjeat [17] amat [18] A On eumeroue sa6jtt4. [18] A I. a m.pb of d'dfenat a.w• [19] Q Including? [19] 0 TeY s what they wae. [20] A A.}¢kia8 related so [211] A We% maatlP, wSm f..dlq p.ab [21] -+teW9O^Pha"-010q, aayWioj to do with [21] Wt 1'es ftpo.a6b tor deiq wiaodLl)ri M.i. [22] de.etupmeeu in tuta ..d sweB .ad those 8eae,d [22] of the WsSn feading a 1a6on.ta)r 1e do the (231 lnprs. (23] -a: Cnb the ela.Yepk2:olop of We. ~ ..+- (2.41 Q WhN ia .ca,opg<~opk.membq4 (24] As I already .eetloeai 1e eny tb KaeY wrk .ddP [75J A NewopqdroP4armaobq refers to the (15] wit1h ol6etoq a.d 1d{a.t.d fl.alt We're an Pqe 59 Pap 60 [ 11 fanmoj studies ae tule onadudiw .aYaWs. I [ II Q Aed iea tYa nre.Ri tYSY kdq d..e [21 =oer thu's - tYnse far thinp I have principal [ 2] exawi.e tYe elhie ae a.iwaY' knir d aYol:eT ( 31 *pPonsibilitl fcr. [3] A R eaaaaWs that Prt of the 6ufk tYt [ 41 0 TYe niwodi.lpds rt.dea d the Mai., [ 4] Y ml4ed m lke tWe .h4m, aMOt• [ S] de thef kave a.ylkin8 W de witk exwisia8 decl d (5] Q A.d ar.t tY tki.p IYCs 6w.8 [ 01 aicoHnet [0] rtuaka Y Ye.w u.t put d Oe ur.in uu•s rnkreed [71 A Nieatiae is oae of the sohWras Oat ie [ TJ to the Wle a„t<ns seya.ds ta .icoti.e; eommH [ 8] be.ine studkd, cwroR. [81 A It Imka at tW taal, pnynfles d [91 0 Tre EEO Lrte research that i/uiq w, [ 9] dcatl.e, aertaC. [10] : that eo.tl.dee in the a.ee dtad.e, r wM [10) Q Oky. Ca. rar etPyi. r r wi.t stML. [i1] a oaker areuT [111 am bei.g de.e reg.rdi.{ .iooH.e i tie (12] MR. McOONNELL: ObjactN.• PooadaVe., (12) .iuad4lnY ri.diea. (13] 1 think - mdd we have the qaeMio. read hr2; do [13] A I. - tkaa as - tYe ~esexdeu ka.e [14] w" mind? 114] Pee i. .fao8.y:s pobae Y.rtbr aro.a of lr [151 MS. BRACH71: Actuaft, PB Jest auk it [15] Main ad an.p.uW the elfecta d.ioett.e r the [161 a8ai.. [16] eKew d cocai.e. [17J BY MS. BRACKIL: [17J Q WYe. dli tki weak 6agf.T [18] 0 4 tke raeae:Y WtS cNIFroa1Y Eehq [I;] A I b.Ww w'w alak el an beti..iq - N ~ [19] conducted a. PE6 ud W4, doea eq d that meuck [19] ao, I tkiak Y Eeps at - eiwe Y the fY1l d fYS ~ (201 4.e to do whY dmd.e7 (201 yeae, I tWk• W Fr [xt] A It has - il•a aa audl) EEa work. (211 Q Pirt d 199N N [22] 0 Okay. [22] A Yes, I think tkYY omeaf. ~ ~ [2a] A u•a n.. .ns basic ;a.e6 irs ..uw [731 Q Who io« we w.kt W t [x4] stodtes. A.a dcoei.e is ;acWdea, a.wy .uq other [24] A Nts aa.e Y pdwn. - erare .e, [27] compounds. (251 Dr. Abd 4J1Ye.
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Paje 77 Page YS ( 1j of t1e tewad pirulatin.7 ( I] YnWd podace. Yoe .e.e .:drt the IYm ti.e. , ~ [2] MR. M<DONNELL: Exvse .o, it't diBicWt (2] BY MS. BRAQlR. : [3] b qoettinn ow tku .utten, ht I auame, on the [3] Q Did 4 ropat en sifeG a LLrpbW l.r (4] batu ot yow eatlier queationt, 7ou am attina bia. [41 Wennlatioe of wbwm Ye had stedied atier tM. [5f ahuut the PuaApK a.d .ot a" though this wero .omc [6] aicuWe and corai.et [1) eptabl4hed fut. [6] A I beYe.e I aid tYere wew aLe* tur ur (7] MS. BRACiTL: RiaYt. [7j five dlflemt w6Ya.ces tYat Ye boted el i that [ S] MR. McDONNELL: Okay. 1'm wrry. (81 p.ndip.. (9] THE DEPONENT: In we.w, 7m are (91 0 Yet, you ifd m7 tY.t. [I0] cnneCt, at kut ia tiea7. T4e t6paq is tL.t the [10] A YeaY. [It] .ore roedorciaL a tahtase b, the areahr the [ll] 0 A.d I did.Y ask }ne wYat they wme. [121 reductiw + threshold it would reduce. [121 Asd, .ow, I nared ask 3oe t he rcpo.md a. the [13] BY MS. BRACI(fl.: [13] etlec4 of IYae otYer NbpaneeR [14] O Did 6e ain eePort oa - [14] A Ya, Ye dii [IS] A Pa toey, could 7un read tLat back to (1S1 0 What did M iq, Il you renYt [16] aa7 I did.'t waK to misspeak tYwe. [161 A He rryor4d tiet ofteis aed [17] [17] peodoepYod,i.e Pmdacod appwd.rtel/ tYe w.e [181 ('Ibs following auwer was road: [IB] ,edoctloe i. Aaia Mi.a4tloa threshold ae dM [193 "ANSWER: I. ate.ro, you are cortect, at [191 airoti.e a.d tYN moi.e Prod.md far peatr [2p] k.e In tYeo7. Tb theory ir tnat the [201 redactcnn i threshold u." uor uue. Wao [21] oon ,eedu,cisg a.uMUnee it, the [211 w.Puaadt. [22] gruter the redudb. Ia NreshaW It [22] 0 You ttid PYatP Mani. P.e two pn4 b [23] would rodOa•') [231 mmPan eurai,e ad aimai.a, ata yoa`.e wa . [u1 [241 atoet us of 6r. Pa pia; r rt yov aYwt 1ue [25] THE DEPONENT: Oreaar raductioa it [25] other o.e enw. WYes wr tYe other ar ji.eat Pa{e 79 Pap W [ 1] A I belie.e tYat IY6 Srar Muted - an [1] isemi.4 [21 we apaHu{ ot tie L.jtle pa.t .oeR (2] A I 6eYevs tial Dt. BaMY wan goiat 1o [3] 0 I do.'t ie.ow. Benme yuu uW 1Yere [3] do tlut in u.e af YY pupowaY, 6.t ie dfd.'t do R. [4] wxe tao paW. A.d q a.dw9a.dfa{ was tYwe wae [4] Q Did Ye - We tYt [ S] two 3nets in addhlum to LajOm. Pefi.p, P. [J[ Ie b 3oiq to! [61 wroeg. So oao pant wat to Boani: to wba was the [61 MR. MeDONNELL: Ob[eatio.. Pa..it6.. [ TS e1hN paNt (7] BY MS. BRA(ai'Il: [S] A TYatwutcLa]tM. [8] Q Do 3wLuwYVlpiqb} (9] Q Okay. (91 A I doaR kaaw. [10] A YeaY. [10] 0 O6er tYa. Dr. BaunY, W PYOiP Mani [I1] 0 So u I oortxt in a.denta.di.S Wt, [11] paN ler a" alYx tieuti b mnpma dmlts a.d [12] other tka. tYa paaa fo h]IYe ..d to Bowtis, =o. [12] Yemi., V}ut k.udt [13] ae .ut aw.re of PlBIp Morth .deing p.ab to 6udT [131 A Nat M my kauwfedp, r. [14] dwtiae ..d onwis: rarect! [14] 0 We ha.a tee. Wtl" aYe.t tYs wa.k [15] A llat't cencd, that are twre" [IS] 2aa'.e dote flum '9S b 7i wLw pu wem a/o.n3 (16] tuaded. [16] drathe - [17J 0 TWt 3oe. WeY, thn.e ue wrtoaat(3 [17) A UwMk O [i8] h.ded, ud you am .at awaro of aq that wae (181 Q - ia pudrt nte..d. Y.ft aw aW a CN [19] M.e17 N.dodl oonestt [191 .ember of - w wan amemba of a T.A.(d W *n+ [20] A TYat i. Wo ax.ae. [20] AaiW.ee Taa.: wha Ie tYat! N [21] 0 Otay. Me you aware of nwBes Wt [21] A B wa. Txi.iul Aaatwe.t Tean. ~ ~ [221 Philip Ma..it Yu m.docted or jia+ {nW to _ (221 Q '11a.k 7oa W W 4 HM7 ~ [231 NNe tWt [2T1 A It ia.al.et a..wbet N tdatY4 from [24] Aro lou aware of studies [het (24] dtNereet araa w3Lia the eu.paq, aM Y i..ehs [25] PkOiP Morth Yu woducted Compa,toa aimN.e to [25] giving everybody a cefaln le.el of av..o, k.uwledae 0
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Paqe 85 PaBe 86 [ 1] in P1 Weai.j - wYa: was the quertloa apiat [ I] MR. McDOHNEU.: Aw .p taltiaa aboa ,aY [ 2) 0 What was tie dt«3 ol aiodlae oa tYe [ 21 Particular KO11 (31 t.re-Tt [3] Mi. BRAt7+R.: Yas, .w re. [4] A Oa W Ltexy, okay, Ies. [4] MR. MeDONNELL: Pm ssq. 7Lat }.r 13] Q RieM. I S] THE DEPONEN7S 1n tYs pnY..W .1.8P, [6] A 7D<a my saswsa was axmate. 161 the bwpt Ind did qodre the statktisally ['I] [ e] [91 0 Oka). Ae cataL levels, k dernued 1ateoeft A UY-hW. [7] d8a•rk.at aeceue i. Iwaq. [ 8] BY MS. BRACNTL: (91 0 Ba[ Hem wwa .aitiws in the dawara [101 Q Aad au I cumtt - kiBLa levek of (f0] 1. 1awc7 depeaet.8 spaa the a.naat o( aiontlae (11] aimtine iocrease - deac»ed Ytesq owe riaa did [11] ary.e.<a; cor.actt (121 kaer Ik.ei nt dmtlae; aonu%t [12) A Ta's eLVUArteIy .x.W, yr. [13] MR. MeDONNELL• O6jeetic.. Pnoadatlna. [13] 0 Okay. Ad i kyams teMionry Wt SM [14] BY MS. BRACHTL: [14] lower k.eY of akaiaa o.amd a Qwler bwew 1. [151 0 Do 7oa kaow whethet M84es bveY o! [15] latept [161 aiootiae decreased #te.q awra tkan did lower levels [l6[ MR. MeDONNELIt O6jectina. PaadYba. [17] u1 aimt4et [111 A I doaY tMak I aaY tYS. [18] MR. McDONNELL: Aad /oaadstioa. Bat So [18] BY MS. BRACHfIa [l9) ,Yead. [19] 0 Okay. Was - taa ua /a.elr wkY IL 1201 A No, k did.'l. It - the fiactioa was (201 reaul4 at tW W d): riBMt Otq. E.pylY.B P. (z11 ntYer ma,plea. 1211 BoiK oo ask Iaa inm aow a., as..oe I ask laa d. "a (221 BY MS. BRACH71.: P1 taow. I'w oalry aai.g yas abo.t wiat yas aao.; r [231 0 Bat at a eaMa low le.d of aimBas, (2a1 riWt 1241 tiere - do you taow, wketYOr at a ccnaia low Inal [24] A Okay. lu] of aicotine there was so decreue in Ieteecyt Clsj 0 I. riY 8ady, wera peatar dx.easu in Page 87 [1] Isteacy touad witk paater deB.eq af aimtiaet [2] MR. McDONNELU ObjecNua. PouWatio.. [ 3] VaBae. (41 MS. BRACHIT.: W4t k 7a.r (n..dstloa (5I ubjeeaoa, ceaavat [61 MR. McDONNELU OwWr deFeries at [11 wYat k.ek, k's ju8 a qoeNk, tkat, I eMat, 181 eae't be aaawaed Y k's asked, 6ut - 191 MS. BRACfiTL: AM :i{M. 1 jrt waated [101 to auks .awe I aadasoood. Yoa w.nvver k. [/1] TNE DEPONENT. Woold 7oa repeatt [121 BY MS. BRACNi'1.: [13] 0 Sara. L tW nWy, k's tsaa, is k [14] aut, that greater decreases is late.cy rowkee wkk [151 YiBirr deli.e:ies uf Mmtlaet [16] MR. McDONNELL: Obleatioa. Pooadatin.. [17] A llat's aot aocuote. [I8] BY MS. BRAf3iTL: [191 Q Okay. 'lle:e were 6Rarc.as is decrease [20] r laeeaq Is Nk'tawry aepeaale8 .Poa ue a.oua ot [211 .iwra aexverea; oo..oatt [22) A 7A.t's awmS. (23) 0 Eaplaia tLat, Plene. [u] A E.Ppia wkatt [73] 0 WeB, 1. what dawulaxa - axpiaia the aaaeLHas that )oa foaad in tW aWt hetweea decrease Ia lataacy atl a.ort a/ iutiaa deY.ard. MR. M<DONNELL: Obj.Nio.. Poarhtiw. ORrcWioa. A WYt 1/oatl ws fYt, e.ar eatda r..8at ol:mti.e delt.air, tMw was a roLtbuMP 6etwee..Yctl.a deB.ey aad a.owt .t Pl lateacy denaasal4 Ms tYt was a.lt owr a oeaai. na8e. Z.Yki, tMa wae r fiaY.r d-v- BY MS. BRACt[IL• Q Okay. AYJYt.aR.d YaNwxM upWade i tYa,w A Q A Yea, I did. WYt affeet di 7.a B.iT 'ilna tNa a fakly Y.er reWiorMp rasw~ betwee. aYasKea i dontYe 4Wrt W in aYyr ia Pt N2 uaplk.Ja, if y.e.aT w.a Q tfut fa+. Nba ,tw wes - nkaP. Wa0 tken ap aWr mwk riY yaw dM.t INBIPO alkw tku 6a tsas tiet Poa'.a J101t dsoBted tht's reflected i. EaYbk N.rber 1 ad the wnrk that pa did vY.M Ds. Robalt A We did se iar PiN/ ina.tlS.tius w t.o or tY:ee people.
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Pye 125 P.ye 1]L (1] wc o. two wwc 9ucubr 4.a. ( 1] taa mea.iq d tY{ wwi 'rYtWrP7 (2] BY MS. BRACNIi: (2] A TlY i n.ft aet d.f araa d [ 3] 0 Aw e.rt 's, aa rem m.eaee. ,qw.e [3] a.perNre. [ 4] eW about W,larenrn m lle FDA tYat )'e" fet w. [4] 0 Okay. So 70. doat Yen ." [ 51 a wireW:a~teriratio., aLLv tYO rs 7^a'aa (J] ..derN..di.S dVYal tYt woad r.r i.m.ai [6J temr,ed7 [s] Fur.ca7 [ 7] A WeA, I jwt have m repeat rYrt ilt 17] MR. McDONNELL: Objaeioa Po..daio.. [ 8] been a beS rime mce 14e boted ar Nu [8] A Feow. Je Aer'walinn d W waN, I we.N (9] Q Okay. [ 9] u/ tSrt ft .ur pad.rn ..htln.r. 1101 A So I eall aFa 7ua e.aat detaik [10] BY MS. BRACHI'L• [11] MS. BRACHR.: Okay. AS :iSM. Thask [11] Q Okay. Do ya...datad wYat tYe vad 1121 7e+. [12] 'e.rd.o8eab' .eY.t [13] MR. McDONNELL: If we'ro SofeB m take (13] MR. MrDONNELL• Objpiu.. Fa..hde.. (14] annther break a.d the. So tn 12:47, auy6e w rYoaM [14] A I wodd ra) haw the deuratlur of tYe 115] take a Mnk at Wr poia. [it] .arb that Y WeaLL wu aM" b Fmd.oe end.a8an. [161 MS. BRAQiI'L: Ff.e. [16] BY MS. BRA4D'L: 1171 (17( Q Oty. Did }o. anr Wr.q r.aralk. (18] (Break) [18] W F1are tLt PWiy Mar,Y a.plqar. wwm ls r [19] (191 the wrd'bidqinl rYFitT wYea rdantag 1. [20] BY MS. BRACIifL: (20] earci.oSeaie l8i.p7 1211 0 Doear, wYWe does aw[.Se.fc mea.7 [21] MR. MeDONNELL: OrW I - I r..il, [22] MR. MeDONNELL: Ob]eNo.. Fueadrtiu.. [22] apobdte far tYi, 4a Brn wr a Ftrr i tY.. I [23] Beyo.d YB aapertYe. [21] did .ot Yer. [24] BY MS. BRACHTU [24[ MS BRACMW Lrt r repirar. ft [iS] 0 Doetw, do 7w have aa7 .edantaadLW d [2S1 MR. MoDONNELL• AS ri8it. Pate 127 Pap 17S (1] BY MS. BRACH7L: [ I] were Bkadr, wre 90s cbr Maab! [2] Q Yom tertlfbd eaNer t0at " Yeard ro.w (2] A I wWd rq w, yw. (3] PLw that ewpb}ee. wn to w 6tuluSieJ .cN.k7 [3] 0 Okay. 11a.k p.. Yw have Yrd R [ 4] whea refa:riae lo wlateae r.hu.ar. I du.t alea. [4] rrid, Yan 7am wt, that .kaY.. Y.iiiN.et [S( to eL.nchline 7o.r te.Nnoq, wWarer it ws, It [S] A Yp, IYe Yra6 tlrt. [ 6] wr. rw jrt yiq lo Sae fn b aq q.mtie. Yxa. [ 6] Q Han 7n ..ar Fe.rd a.9a.e d [ 7] Did 7w e.ar fear tMt ewpbfea wac wpeqod b [ 71 FYWYF Marrfa r.7 W/ iouWe i addlrfMt [ 8] .re bbb8twl activity aYe wYem referri.8 Be [ 8] MR. McDONNELL• ObJaWm Vrpe. Yea (9] u¢No8e.k7 (9] .ets as e.plo7ae at PaRiP MarrY, a parom t [10] A tbal'r a porFbtW7, b.t riat wn [I0] " MarriA [11] .atWe I wam diroctl7 i..dred L, r I wat ra.ily [11] BY MB. BRACNIL: [12] teMify to But. [12] Q Otq. IYw y...nr Yard a (13] 0 B.t yow r)• ban Seard Wt aYuT (131 lNYP Manir a.pbyr - .e.ber d....Se.rat my (14] A Tult a porrOlBit>/. mrruS. [141 that droN.a Y ad34tl..f (15] 0 Okay. D.t.B tYe rt.e t4t 7ul rd [1S] A No, 1 aa.'t ly f W w Y.. (161 Mr. Ootloll. wera Rka3, wn pal daa frb.dd [16] dvaclpirad ir ar WdfrWw [17] A I wn ray doss fiir.dr, yes. (17] Q My q.eelo. Y ri.* wWYor 7o.1e ar.r N (18] MR. McDONNELL: Yoa uH duriq the ti.a [I8] heard awYuae al PYWP S/arY r71W, ag 0 [l9] Ilut 7o. a.d Mr. Oaqutta were Gieadr. [19] PWYp Marrir ewpb)aat I'm .ot artlq }n. aM1eat 1Ye W (20] M5. BRACIiTL• I apobpca. In] Pkft Morris Fa.ilio.. I'o ]nt a1kYn{ )n.W N [21] MR. MeOONNELL: Aad I waa to iatradun [21] wYelYer- *m [22] 1a fa Dr. OWlatta. [22] MR. McDONNEIl• Re nNal d Ya ~ [73] MS. BRACHIT.: 71a.k 7e..ay, wari. [23] BY MS. BRACHTU ~ [24] BY MS. BRACHIL: (14] 0 -.YNYer p. - I'. j.t rkf.8 wYelYw [75] 0 DurieS tho time that 7o...d Dr. U7dnr [2S] 7a. Ye.A ry e.piqee at PYiRp Marri rq 1Yrl
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Page 41 Page 42 [ 1] what did they numiee7 ( 1] A ThLL wr that these pyYa retPoed 121 A I ue give you u ezunple. ( 2] WeetivoFy to LLe 3Hweet - b the Mn.oiwrn ( 3] Q Thauk yoe. [ 3] ef aimti.e. (41 A Oee of the studies that wat being - tkY [ 41 Q WY.e aa e'rao:o...y [ S] m.y, ie tact, being wrteatPy fanded wu to look at (5] A Yw'r kan to bepn r, Y'M, Uerare 16) the effecta of oiootlee oe the Cauetius jee8lioe. 161 1'. .et a ehewiist, bet, b the 6rt d aq (7] which are the oell bodies of the trigemieal ee.ve. [ 71 eode,Nael.{, a rraoito.er it .Yr tiew - a 181 Q say .8eia what they are, the word. [8] compuaed eaipe ie a poler Mete. tt eae eGYa - [9] A Casseriu pn8llee. ( 9] the tlermim.eo are .i.mr :u{n of each other. 1101 Q So you were studying the affect of (l0] So H yoe thiek of the rtnGure of a euwpoa.d eed [11] eicotine on the pn88t oe the tri8emitW auve: [il] you ievett k 180 depeet, that would be the (121 right? (121 Ocreo:a.er of that mmpoetl. [131 A AbtoluWy oortect, (13] Q Does that - r I eeddt4ede8 yae (141 Q W6at did those ttudtes show - strike [14] m.¢Wy tkat Wt research tYowed that ylypea [15] that. [1S] Pky.r.t locatbr ae the 8welia respoed to (16] Aro those Studles doney [16] mffere.t pEydnl balimy ue fYe oompo.Mt of the [17] A 13ote riod4a ue ie PmBw, I betteve. [17] eimtlaey [78] 0 And have aey results come otLLY (18] MR. MeDONNEI.L: Objectiue. Yoa rae [19] A Snme have. [19] uswee. [20] 0 What have t6e.e - what have those (1B) A That is aeWOy a awy ee.ple: qaatia., [21] reselq fhoweY [21] aed Pw eot we Yow to u.wer it. Tkae ry be 1221 A Very atereBin81y, they fhuw that t9ere [22] either diRetan pleca a" the pyYe tt,at teepoed [23] it staeotelertivity at the level af tke receptor fe (23] dlBareaieRy ar then qy Im aqW rocepton ne e [24] the ca.mri., s,n{lio.• [24] de81e 8ae8Ye- that reyu.a aLkw.u.y, aea ee [25] 0 What dees that ne.ay [25] this poht fe 1i.e, I dee4 tWk k Is k.uwn which Page 43 PaBe 44 [ 1] the e..e 4. [ 11 tLey fouw wiu the ce.atee pe811a daa. [ 21 BY MS. BRACHTL: [21 Q Do yoe kaow wYy PYYp Morri wr (3] Q But at kaR r. is the ballpark? (3] iaueatsd to kaniq eboR the .fkd. - the [ 4] A You're ie the ballpark. yn, .u'e.. 141 awuacewq e0eda af 1010001507 [ S] 0 TWk ye.. All riBYt. What etia [S] MR. McDONNP31.: Ob]eettne. CaIY fer [ 6] raearck tlut Dr. KoIMI did that was fanded by (6] tpawleWe by the witaer. tfe cr aerw.x Y ie [ 7] PhiBp MorrVy [ 7] kaowe. (8] A He is nvreotly looking 4 the effede af [ 8] BY MS. BRACHTL: [ 9] vamot - weR, kt'a tee. Let ne 8o beek fm. [ 9] Q Oely d yoa keow, Jet it yoa hqipe. b [10] thue. He r also studying the effects of compuoodt, [10] kww. (11] specifically eicotiee, on e retpoete called the [I7] A i euY qeak for PY7ip Mattit. [12] negative mtkoul Poteatld, [121 Q Okay. ' [13] Q Ge yw explde wYat the eepttve wameel [13] A B,t I keew wlq r. ibreled i0 how k [141 poteetial is4 (14] tepoedl to _ wlh we faeded tYet reteatA. [1J] A We're eet wee. We think it'e the [15] Q Telt r, plcete. [16] wamated reyore of the niSealed ean. [16] A We tkiek tYt the r1o.Wlo. af tM [17] Q Are there asy results of that research? [171 triBe.LJ .nee ui .xidr aNee ernt, psipleeY 1181 A Yee, there ete, I be8eve that's oortacv. [iS] .er.a ie the body aaetd6.le peYly to t1. Ba.ar N [191 Q Tell aie. [19] Pro9eetiu of the podftt. ~ [20] MR. McDONNEt.[.: I'm torty, the quWb.T [20] Q Maek that eer.ar. W • [21] BY MS. BRACH7L: [21] CAa yaR tel r abeee - 4tle ttrt. *"t N (22] Q Toll oe, 7eaY, wWt the results are that [22] 4 tkre aq dkr nwerti Itr yae taow y.J [231 yoe are fami8ar wtUi. [231 of that Philip Mcai f.e8ed tiee De. Ro6d did ee le ~ N (24) A 'lle alrtnu that's bee. published ..d [24] doing? ~0 12.5] the eueeuript. I irAkve. kind of conobotats what 114 A We'te eeneeth fudn a.otYer evoked
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Page 117 Pajc 118 [ 1] Q Okay. Wh.t eYn1 [ 1] A I believe tacy wae r bd.g dip8oted [2] A I tLitk Ow) wun tY uf tWt attme. ( 2] it Colo`te. wnaC. [31 ntbs tLtnp relatiq a eaR biolop. I otY be [3] 0 Okay. Did sam Id ya. H.t - [4] .nes spx:Re tt.n tYtt. [41 .p0;. Ouw. [5] 0 Wdl. wen aq ot t6ae rtodie, abott [5] How did k nar a 1e 11at 7or w«k wtt [ 6] cek hiniop, were they xudyln{ the effecb af [ 61 daafened ta INBIPOT 17] imci.e at eek biobpT [ 7( MR. MrDONNFil< Ob(aNOns. Ftt.datin.. [8] A I EotR ttuw d tie3 wae botW{ at [ 81 Cagk (u Rtaktk.• Am 2am rkiq Yi. Ynw be [ 9] .ieotl.e w.nt. [ 91 4a..ed kT [10] Q Weve ak of the cell biology projeds (101 BY MS. BRACfi7L: [I I] that were Htadcrtr.d a Golujjte tku being dute it [11] 0 Let .t ask awetlitg dllfero.t. Yeah, [121 RirSnotdt [12] PI nk 7u Wt. How did 7oa Ivir tka 7ar [331 MR. McOONNELLt At what pdat it VweT [13] pojee wa auiy M be tnadared a INBTPOT [14] BY MS BRACHfL: [14] A I believe titt aq nttager at the LLa [15[ 0 Beture they wero cetad it Rkhtatd. Do [1S] Lfm.ed .a that - wek. I think he asked .e a (161 79t mdenttadi [16] 16tt wYetYar I woMd mridx a tn.rtw - [17[ MR. McDONNELL: I dnt4 .ed'atta.d 1 [17] tr.uteni.S aq work a INBIPO. [281 dutk awt a- [S8] Q Who wu HatT [19] BY MS. BRACH71: (19] A P. " awtti k wat Or. frairt. [20] 0 1 ne4.o t13at 3ot tettl9ee tutt nte ur [2u1 0 Wa, eu r rk 2.s tr aid b t.r p..t [21] the cek biology popta wn being dua in Col9pe [31] MR. MrDOriNELL: O6[wioa Ytpw Did [22] at lYt u.a Si.e k wa be1.S dute it Rki.u.d, [321 re uk 3at ar dY b ak 7tt w4T [171 llereforo. yot floppad doing it fs RirisoW. 6eoam [23[ M& BRACNR: Wat. wda - pt Lwr. [2A] k't dupecati.e; wtt that aku the cue of the afYer [2A] the quntkr f9llow e.ek air, b.t k}ot wodd [2S1 pajeett that wele being twaderted7 [251 IBe a a n2 the wkdt tWt;. 17 be kaM a b PtBe 119 F.ye 12D [1] that. [1] I'w nm. The iwadatltn it waq, I tMak. [ 2] MR. MeDONNELL: Benuw k't tol datr it [2] MS. BRACHIL: I Wak npiell N wYt [ 3] q.i.d wYtt k Ik 7Wn okiq. [31 Ytppete4 lke kwt It wir dM kt Re6 .oautt: [ 4] MS. BRACH7S.: Sas. [41 akq. [3] BY MS. BRACHTU (!] M0. MCDOMNEIL: S.w. 161 0 Did Dr. GraWt ask yca or teY yot that [6[ MS. BRAl9iTL: Yu. ob)Mfo. <ptw* [ 71 7ot< poject was being .u.ed to B+ISmOt [7j stadl. , [8] A I belie.e be uked .e. [ 8] BY MS. BRAC(fl.: [91 Q Aroyo.areT (91 Q OklywaaWaroteWlyo.wat [l0] A Pa takly ta. 7at. [10] e.aek d[ tvd by the Ld.iot w te..da }oar [Ii] Q Atd wYtt wr yew rc.p9re wlem he Mt [111 prujen to INBIPO! (12[ asked 70.7 [12] MR. MrDONNEil: Cta•t ahjtcNr, hr tb [131 A R wu t9wewkat u[ t..prW, hat I 4d (131 ua reuom. [141 bee. having dicWiou wkk Yim t6ott that .w« [141 A I tkt.k I dyM kawe aM n.a.e u.e I [13] fw t period of tise. a it wu.R tka big a1 [151 was t.ptked with the api3y wW wYr1.1 wn (161 tmprke. [161 being tnufertd r R7BIP0. (17[ 0 Did yat a.er tel uyott tkat yot wete (171 BY MS. BRACHI7: [18] nqM off Stud by the deddat to tnadar 7ar [181 0 Do Iw• w.r.h.r who Na wuT ].,) [191 Ftejea a INBR"O7 [19] A 71" tvJd kaw bas t tt.hte af pa"b. 0 ~ [20] A I tMak .. (20] Q Did ptn l.R - M 70u bow Mr. Urdwt ~N [211 MR. McDONNELL: Cn euitg a ubjett u. [211 A I ito. Dr. Uydr. ~ N [221 fotadatinn pot.dt, bettap wkatY teet fertd(ed to 1221 0 Otp. Etart r. 7f..k pa Ynu wart.d ~ C~1 [27] a fir s a rt9uest that the qa[eR be htadatod [73] wi/k Dr. u)dt.; eanrt7 .[~ [241 a INBIFO, t.d 2ot attted k at tYeu¢ k wu o [24] A Nu. I dfd taL ~ [25] .cmmplkk - u t6ouek it were tt acoomPlkhed het, [27] Q Ya. waro a wketpt of Dr. UydoW at
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Paie 109 Pw 110 [ 1] saeaxi wa. *n do.a .[ PhB.p' Mu.'s ea .ub.. [ 1] de.r Lun the m.ea d ki .swqs bs be't [2] oorador. [21 Wkiq about .wk that Y ysm.tl..d Mr a.aieq [31 Q What ersur3 Ad yuu bar wu .but dow.7 ( 3] af reawas, ..d P. .at wrc that •Ja1 dnw.• Y the [4] A 'M1s behavioral Pham.mbp work was `bt ( 4) tw.. Ba, .w. that M objecled, 1'11 - I wo.Y (S] dnw., but that Is tYe ody or I tkiak Pn awam uf. ( 5] aq aay.ne. 1'am vry. [ 6] Q Oliet tku 1ke Miniual pkan.frobp [ 6) M& BRAOHIL: 11..k yua [ 7] work that was eWt duwa. are yoa awauC uf oy other [ 7] BY MS. BRACHfL: [ 8] research tkat was &hut dow.S Sulks Wat. I 8) Q The behavior pkrrmbp tiat [9] Did you hear of auy uther rcaumk that (9] was JaY doa, tka's Dr. DeNa6k's mmky [10] was sbt doway [101 MR. MeDONNELL: Objpef3u.. Fo..dNi... [it] A OWy raraMli that was citker tramfenW [III A CunecL [12] tn another fhdiity or that was mwaeufd. [121 BY MS. BRAQtII.: [13] Q Okay. Research t4t was twtened to [131 Q Yaa wn hie.b wllk Ds. DoNoble: 'ry4t [14] avotbr f.dSry. mck es INBIPO; iY that whWt you [14) A No. I wu aot. [IJ] .ea.T (15J Q H.k Yua wera W uYrps} [16] A YeJ, either INBIPO or FTR. [16] A I ws kY coYtapa, mv.a[. [17j 0 A.d ter the ]uy what PPR ia [17] Q Yen yuke wi1Y Ys.y [i8] A It's a SNr sYtet mapaay of PM. Ii8] A On ar..iuw [19] 0 Okay. The behavioral Phu. - behaviu 1191 Q Did yos work with ki.t [20] Phumacobp rcwami that was sk.t dow., that was [20j MR. McDONNELL: OE)eolba. Vaps. [211 Dr. DeNubY's work? [21] BY MS. BRACRISa I22] . MS.. McDONNELL: CuunsrJ. ynaYO bee. (22] Q Were yu, e.ar L.ul.ea is asq naea.i [231 .uo3 tkc word -sb[ dn.a,' aad I'r probably amW [23l P^sje[ts with iim at PWBP ManW [241 in aut kvin{ ubjated tn 4 a-u. toucdatiu. (7A] A No, I w..ul. [27] grounds before, 6at I ob]ect to it suw. I awa, k's [25] Q What dld you Yyr about Dr. DeNohb's Paige 111 Pap 112 [1] wmk i. 6eka.ior 9brmaxl^{y briY discoodowdy [ i] the popular Prons, [ 2) A I bud taat ke w.s ubd b dw dow. [ 2) Q Okay. 1 wa* y..» ter ...Ya yas [3] kY takoratap, ud he sYhequeWy Ie8 the mepoy. (3] Ma,d 4c, other PwpY a PYWP Mawi about why [4] 0 Oid you 6aV talk to Dr. DeNuMS about [ 4] Dr. DeNoMt a.. ukpll..q W.a.a.k. [3] Inaty [s] A I.ay Ya.a kued. as prt cf a eaktaY [6] A I dn.'t thiak I did. [6J aoa.en.tlo., LL.t the la.y.n asked .wje.ea k. 171 Q D'd yuu kear aayWio3 aeu.t .ky ks ms [7] dae anw, uw ,ae.ua. [ 8] atkod w Wso dow. w 4bt [8] Q Nar aq ann t\.s u.tt [9] A ['.o heard v/uiaw n.on. I tNY[. ycL (9] A 71ew mq, Iar L.ws tbt I a.'t [10] Q Wk.t ka." yuu ke.rd} [101 tar ya. - tkss .en sar i..bts aLar ki. [11[ A That b wr irb.cled by the diacfar at [11] Badl.p, ad tYrn n.n o.a g.eMisas ak.t - [12] research at the tls to ta'.i.ate W.owk. [121 .a{.a qrntlon that I w.s reaa te.y Yla.ei [13] Q Did you s.m bv uyhkB about ky b [13] Hwn, a6on eWd Iliys. [14] was i.qeucted to tea.i.ab Me wvkt [14] Q QaeMbs about MMcd IYap; .ht b [i5] A I'.e kaaaf t4i.p 50. Ptua iebvea ad [15] yo..eut [16] of that .ature that wky he was atked to teawiuate YiM 116] A I tki.k I Yaard r..na about ki. [17] work. [17] .drteprne.Wg d.ta. [18) 0 Well, did yo. - Y.wt have bee, p.e [18] Q Do Sat k.uw ayttlq about ya ar did N [19] talk aba.t it at Philip MortY; war't tbn7 (19] yua ke.r a.y non tW lkatt ~ ~ [20] A 'ilne .me tkiap ek.t I heard ho. [20] A I da.t kar aq.as aeo.t tYat, a.e., ~ [21] other peopb of which I ka.a .o dirert k.o.k.ke• [21] h..kly, I did.'t an.. N I22] 0 Okay. What did you kur from other [22] 0 Ya/ diida't aet ~ C~ I~1 Pa^Pk7 116, Is other PWPb at PYiNp Mwrir, [23] A No, I did.t ,j? [?A] kMT [7A] 0 Yasr did.Y aw wY.t, yw Jida't qn Ull [2S] A BoU at PhiBp Morris aad what I read I. (2Jj whether he .orepreteaed data? 7Sa4 .ot
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Pate 121 Pa'c 122 ] 1] Yii:Tp Mo:nst [ 11 Q Did you e.ec st7 s.)IMq to Mw aba.t ( 2) MR. McDONNELL: Objeetio.. Varye. [2] thu7 [31 Colleague .u7 ayyex to be juq that they waked (3] A No. I ha.e set 141 daey. 141 Q How aa ke -i--i-~•'k• nr [J) BY MS. BRAC#77.: (3] woR7 [6] Q Let we mphme thst. Did you work at [6] MR. MrDONNELL: OF)W6.. kY avw7 [ 7] PTirry Monk d the uwe dae tkat Dr. UYdw worked 1 71 va8ae qvat6a aW ar.wee k ea be aa.wemd In a [ 8] at Philip Mortid [8) teMeam ec n, ba... 191 MR. McDONNELU 'Rsck 7o< [9] M& BRAOH7L: Yeu a. arwer. [101 A O9r times thcm o.e:l.pped, coweU. [10] THE DEPONENT: He .icY.npni.d the (11] BY MS. BRACHTL: (11] wuck in wck a way u. ..waor uen/iou witkie ki [12) 0 D{d 7nn talk to hio fmw tinin to tGne7 [12) depotilin. Wt led wa to baYeve he had .Molaal/ [13] A Ya, we dld. ' [13] so rWUwa.di.g of what I wef Jui.g, [M] 0 Were you frieads wkk Mw7 (1{I BY M& BRACNTL: [i51 A I would a) to. [1l1 0 What dJ you tM.k he wid abo.t 7om [161 0 Am you pill fiie.h with kiw7 [161 work that ww.Y 1ns7 [171 A Not how my peyecti.e, rw .et. [17] A I paw, i the went ye.aY ure, what (18] Q L there a man, why 7ort am n bnier [18] ke did wo he eaiell wimi .' .I oYmy wak [19] hiradt witk hiw7 [191 wkk my penn..ro.mW wmk, s.i he kid d weyed [20] A Ycp. [20] k i.n tMs u.s awpMO Hed of project f..e1H.B [21] Q What i tiut7 [21] lkinp tkat I anr worked a.. [221 A He wade a Wtewset n the FDA where ke [221 Q Dld ke u7 sa7tMa{ .boa remW Wt [23] talked aSoM my work .ad wickrt.Uerired w3 work ..d 123] you had erliend tkel wwe wrt mrt [2!1 anar got we - pve we the opportmiry n mrtect (2t] A I de.4 tiiek he talked n wtl abud [7J] hb.. [25) maoli u ke did wefkedulop, ..d he talked PeBe 123 Paja 121 [1] abo.t wetkodob8fes in wqY th.t wereaY auvata. [ 1] A I ca.ld lle oR bl a whoi yev, bat 1 [2] 0 Okay. How loa{ wem you 6ie.dd (2) tiiek that'a tieht. [3] A We p:obeW banae Me.dt Yartk:{ ia [3] Q Okq. Su ye. wem Meed1 wkh hiw kew [Q ^R or -19. [•] -19 n tke beet..i{ o(1s, ad thse 3e..nppei (3) 0 A.d his tmtNnq 1o the PDA wa I. '9!7 (7] beieg hieadt witk Mw, 1n pr wi.d, kmre d wh.t (61 i that ri{M7 You de.'t k.ow7 [61 he uid tn the PDA; ti{Ytt [7] A i eu't - k uear n we that k wr [ 71 A Nd e.atly wYt M ssid Ie the PDA, bat [8] efther kVe -.e, I think k wu eatry'9d. [ 8] tkal I had the - ks ked ..we:ous appucl.dtks so [91 0 Aeludl7, I wq ka.a - 7w nid ks wade [ 9] cunert what he a.s wti0.8 i hi tlbewen a.d ke [101 .firtepmuataHor iY hi Aepotleoa, ..d I tMyk [10] d{d .ot take Wwe epportrrtles, and tYt twked [11] you weaa Y the slBd..k ke pn to the PDA, s.d, [11] Is a wieWaaai.ubn of my wak. [121 rw nrt). I tkuWd be .ma de.c. What depoutlo. [121 0 Okay. A.a ]a n rw .e>I Aert. the [13] ue you talking a6oet7 [13] .avacteriaatlon i in winYrrdaddq the [141 MR. McDONNELL: Aad befare we ooatl..e, I [1{] walkodoM{in tYt you wd I. )a.r work; i thY (1J) wut to object e. - to lor ek.ncYUintion d k [1J) rwt7 [161 u a. affidavit to the FDA. [16] A rw sm7, r'aw, k.t k's been s wiYa [17] M& BRACH7L: 7Lsk 7a.. [17] tiwr r.e sean that Jr,wwe., a.d n I crY m.ly N (18] MR. McDONNELL• It1 .al a..fRda.it (18) mull the nanu wh) k eruked a stm.s awdinrl ~ [19] MS. BRM'IirL: Okay. 119] tayn.n on my pnl. ~ W [20] THE DEPONENT: What I wu tpukia8 aboa [TO] MR. McDONNELL• #/s. - I wee., I think H.. [211 Srec4, n we'm abtolutely we what rn t.Ik4q [21) you ve e.tkled 10 tem hi wrwuy abwt ft, b.t Y N F~+ [?2] aboat, i he wade a swom ttrtewcat n 1Ye PDA, ..d [22] you waa n t.lk M kiw abo.t k i dMd, I pw I C~ ~ [23] that was ppoMM) i. - [271 a{{eat t4t 7oa pt k in hoa d M., s.d rw t.e ~ [2A] BY MS. BRACN77.: [2{] ke ooWd teulty i. peaer debR [25J Q Beginoies d'9S7 [231 M& BRACHI7.: 7kask loe. i'1ja uk
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Page 101 Pap 102 [ 1) A We6, P60ip Morris iu the ueu [het 111 A 1.4 aYe 4i. (n. e.W.. k [21 were dose ae PYiap Mocrh, and INaiFO eea tpe aeee 1 21 cataidt wu.Y PWip Morris atto.eete, but we Yed [31 that weee doee at INBIPO. [ 31 m hva aVio1 appo.J 6dao we ouold Ao the [Q Q Did tun e.oe - Ao tno 4.e ey wa u. [4] audiee .e iNBB*O, er 1- b ti. Pj,& ws 151 weaoe o..otaboob at Yo.e se4tiog to the reaeuA (5) Co.miriao, atl ekse mdi k..e Eepo Ywten eaYe (61 7on did at PMBp MorriR I 61 Prc3urs Caoririo., a well r eLLiciMe eod People 1]) A I have n sori edebooke oe reoorde at [ 7] nf tYae e.u.e. [ e] bwe. ( 8] 0 Okat. So Ywtaa wem ineleed i [ 91 Q 130 7w waek ee a eoaperoe at Yn.aT [91 appenwY tYe raweA hetnre Y wr aAeW dees, [10] A Yn, I do. 110] bY ween oue ie.deed Ioo the dofq W the remotl; [11] 0 Do yua - did Toe - krike fLM. (11] ie tiet ris\eT [121 6 tLem o. t6et wmpcte+ aet oetaa a (121 A Tkem .q ee art .ot kero 6eeo lewta.e e. [13] nemounda or repcrtt eboat remercY that tos did al (13] the Frdbuq EIMq Co..iWoo, wrirJt WimadT• pee [14] P6i8p Mooid [14] the aliio appoed, I dooY konw. Ba Ilene wr oo [11] A 1xt wao stats it tHe waT: Tken ie (151 Yqon io.oMed io tYe ieeeW. (16) oolYleg oo .) m.pWm at ko.e tYe[ Y out eW oo [761 Q Okay. ta.todieallt, 7a 1 [i71 the oonpctee at Philip MonD. [17] WuJ repo.U ao the reeeu¢\ tWt 7w Y al I1a] Q T1ok To.. Okay. Were u) 4qme (1b1 PYiBp Moen; eow.pT [19] e.ee IneoM1ed fo the FewFcY Wt )oo did at 1191 A TYet'e menC, [10] PhiNp Mo.nt [10] Q AYo, you p.epnd •'___-_, reports; [21] A Nne to q kaowkd{e. [21] cowedT (121 Q Wmo aip lawyers a.ee fo.oleed io tY [221 M0. McDONNELI.: Ya. prelamd the Ifne [27] research that ton did at INBIFOT (23] yupNa by perbdipy. Pw .oe ew Y p+ iaetl [24] A Not to my kaewledp. 1141 6.t qoaYBqfium to aa.Now oe .a. (13J Q Go aYSad. Yoa we.e to wT pmeWutt [TS] Pap 103 Pap 104 [ 1] BY MS. BRACKiIt [ 1] BY M6. BRACM]L: [2] 0 Let .e be a liale .uee fpxifle. Did (1] Q SWe tlrt. [31 ha e.ea mpare semiameai reports oo the rcwrtY ( 3) Do taw tmw wYetYee kwten roeiewad [4] tlut tne did at PhOip MddyT ( 4] tbp detme 1Ye7 were nhaYted for pebYatinot 151 A 1 doot IYiok w Tia wu oot soeNoelt [S1 A To IYe bat o( .T kww7edp. on Ywtm (61 dooe. kY pow1N,lYna{Y. ( 61 m.kwad IYas plbr M p.6Yexioa [ 7] 0 Okay. Did leqen e.ae re.iew twe (T1 0 Yoe did ee.cwl rae.wi pojeke wkYe (8] ..ooY repem bWara tuey wvn BoU aW -xnns 191 .t PMiP ManY; otYer eYn u. neerd tYt yo. [9] tYat. (91 did at 1NBIPO, weee feqee seee inMd Y [10] Dtd laqeo e.ee ree4w Joir.ooW [101 appee.i.{ tans pojWe Yetae Hy wen ieoeT [11] reports before they wpe B.dT [11] A To q koowbdp, oe. [12] A Not to q k.owbdge. 1121 Q Wao po a.ee gWso aq dleCloo aburt [13] Q Okay. Did iawteo e.ee review aqtYOS [13] what to say tO rePam w*e.a Hee you wutat (14] 6u 7ur wmte at PWfp Mowb befwe Y wu 11Wt (M1 MR. MeDONNELL: Tm pwy, .q deecfio. [I51 A Noe to my k.owled{a 117] at all, i.ra.t [161 Q So 6e ae you k.ow, did oq rwte+ e.ae (16] BY MB. BRAQf1T.: (17] mgue that 9.yw be n.ae to w.p ual ton wroao [1T1 Q Oky. Wae Y e..e.pe.w n toa ur N [18] wYBa at PWip Mo1riR [18] Ios fYoald oot w eatde wodk or pYore lo IWp ~ [19] A To the 6ert of my k.ewlaijo, .et [191 that yow ww4 ri PMYp Mad.T W [201 Q Okay. Did ton ab.tt antelee !ue [20] A No. ~ N [211 pubYntioo wh0e >ao wme at Philip MorrisT (21] 0 Do tom koow - did )NO nw kev LLet ~ [22] A Yee, 13d, 121] aqa.e wb tid work toe ltiYp Morris wr - etAs W ~ [23] 0 Did Yqeo nniew tYoee before tYey weee [231 that. W [7A] .utnined foe po6Yeab.T [tA) Did you o.ee taer LLet aquoe wie did [TS] MR. McDONNELL: Oh]ecfioo. Pouodatb.. [2S] woek fue tMBP MaeY wa. yirer a wqewbo eEas
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Pcje 129 Pose 130 [ I] .4vti.e iw addlcti.eT [1] BY MS. BRACATL: [ 21 A No, I c.a't u7 tWt I Yave. 131 Q WYo Y.eo ywt Y..d tai deat ytyrt [3] Q Okay. Did yu. arer Year aeyhndy - u7 13] rwtr k.ddiN.. Y " MoenT [41 ewployee d P6i{ip Manis wuader abod wbetder [41 A I'va o.taidl tJtW a6a.t k a. a (3] .iootiee Y addietrvet [S[ auawv of aecetinn. (6[ A frs been dlscufted, lea. [b1 0 Aad wYo Yave 7m Yend - nYe eYe Yne ( 71 Q A.d tuve you 6ees privy Io tYote [n Joa Wrd talk abe.t kt ( 81 atscusae..r [a] MR. McDONNELL: O6[eedoa Po..iYi.., [91 A O2 amrio., I Wve. [9] A tt Y.s cear q.p a...b.r d aaub.. [101 Q Whow have yuu hend ditcros w4etier or [10] witi Wenheo of the TecY.iol Ares.eat Omap. [21] .ut dcotlae Y edmctive at Philip Mecritt [111 BY M& BRAON'R: (12] A TWt's eowe ap as a topic in oon.a- [121 Q q4o.} [13] act avmua, i. i.eetiep of 1Se TecheieJ Aawmeet [13] A l.et .e tee it I e~a reaY the ewe [141 Omop. [14] snben d tYe paap. Mysdt, Dr. C.ni..., [151 0 So that - Yu H.t heea dter'941 [1S1 Dr. Davins, Dr. See.a.. Dr. K.M 9dec, 1161 A Yet, tYat1 mtmC. (161 M W lLCIF Hyat. De. Jaa7 Nisn., De. Na.et Jeuea (171 Q Ota). Aad wYn Yave you Yeaed nid [t't) How ..q aassas byo. Yan tYwet [18] amonpt Philip MonD eopbyees abnut the sab[ect of [18] Q Se.aa [191 w\erier or .et akati.e it addietlve7 [191 A P. Iea.iaS e.t a so.ple an¢ people, tart (201 MR. MeDONNELL: O6Jeetiw. Vafu. [20] 1- let m tYN. Ysu asa pi.t; m Yaro taoaMe [211 A TFae ias beet a peat deal of dhcastla [21] wkY " o.e, Dr. !•etee Upwiex TYme re a [22] o. wYat the .uore d addRtb. Y. Aw .be6er - [22] m.ple .oce people .bn rq at the s.e.er, sYppi.R [231 tAerc's a srcat deal of n4andeNa.mns .un.t; [231 s•7 wi.d. (241 teteatW a6out the .atw of addlaioa, that Y.. (241 Q Okay. DM }e..var YM aq of tieae [251 cu.e .p oMe.. (JJ[ people my tia aimtW .itrt Ir addNb.f Paye 131 Pase 132 [ 11 A I 4vae ieard people .ate Uhhca tNdt of ( 1] Ml BRAQ(t7< Oo riuL [ 21 tlattme.ts. [ 21 TNE DEPONENT: That wYY I dM aq i [ 31 0 What do ye• weae by 6att [ 31 tYae. Y a.e aaeepn DSM-ID, 9u. S1ryee. [ 4] A StateweMS m tYe natter d, weB, Y you [ 41 OuraY 'fa, you Ya." r Wak d eeaNay Miu ( 51 .xept tMs defi.ttio., tpe. R.uf be addictive, bet [ 11 Pgckea~fin: eo.p:..dt alosB a eoatia.r, .YUe [ 6] d lou accept this de8dtba, k ml ant M1e, tEinp (6[ aimB.a woYd 6e doun. Mte ad Yeauk wodd !e .p (7] d t6at utme. (71 Ysm. I 81 Q A.d .e4r .h.i deB.itic..u k rM [ a1 MS. BRACN77e Mo.e r ehis r (9] eSat it yuw aarpt ak" aeRaklc., k ary n. [91 00-uPOBsk.• [10] addkN.et (t0( BY Mt BRACNII: [11] A It 7ou awept tln deRdtlo., tor [11] 0 Yen Yand k rid, dY 7c..ut, tYtt Y 1121 eaaapla, i rie 198a Surtooa OcaeNs Repat, whY3 [121 er aosp4 the S.po. On.maPS 19at ieB.klnn of [131 Y, batialry, a ratatesuat of DSM-ID, the. a.dec [131 addfalo., tY..:ootir Y.dictiw; osnao<T 1141 t4t deBnitfo., 7ou wuaW Yave to pt aJ Q73-aatve [141 MR. WEIL: OEJsfie.. S.Y It aMy be [1S1 aseats ou a ce.tlnu.. [1S] adiedva. 1161 0 So under that defudtb., .iwt4e was [16] M7. BRACHBL: Yen an rWit. r2 b.. [171 ad8etlre, k sras said st Philip MartY7 [17[ MR. MeDONNEIA.: Ad ebJetcioa b [18] MR. McDONNELL: ObJe4io.. Pue.d.tio.. [18] `. __"__ .w sAY th. 1Wiea as eY.W. O 1191 MR. WED.: It uq be. [191 MR. BRACNR: Yss or Mnar. ~ I20] MS. BRACAI'L: TM.k yo., k.q be, you [201 THE DEPONENT. NW I ttatd wu, Y m W F~1 [211 an rigM. [x11 aomptai the dax.kNs a w}.t f..ud, u.e tws N ~ [221 BY MS. BRAl9TIL: [771 .q be -.4otlae .a) be addidha. ~ 123] Q Curtett} (231 BY M8. BRAl3itL: O [24] MR. McDONNELL: Objectb.. Poudatio.. (241 Q T\a.t yoa TYn Yaw bar tt.BM do.e [15[ E.e" to the qoestio. u cettate4 (Z51 Wt - Owa Mn txa atr0es do.e, the re.YI of
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Page 105 [ 11 .a caiog ceRaL nwds ur 9h..vi in tYeir wdtte. [ 21 work? (3) A I tave w fmltud t.owkdge about tYat. [41 0 Otq. Well, rm utiq about a.ytWus [~I [61 ['11 [g1 191 [10] [11] (121 that Jam n{ght Yavn Ye.N, e.ea Yya. 6earA i[ a, 7ou k.ow, 4e coltes put. Did 7oe e.a Ye.r of aryose at P6iSp Morris or doing work fee Philip Morris being - pn'te that. Did Iun ever reuth.t anyaso wb md work for PYBiP Morris received a aukettio. .ot te we <atei..wda or ptraaa im tYck wlWes rtpona7 [131 MR. McDONNELL: Pm lmt, aSat.. Eeaum [14] R'a a Snenl 4ue.tice; I.ea.I a+e )ou fa4adic{ to [15J [161 [l~] [la] i.elade the ordinary editing ppo<u or do yo. Yaro aoeethi.g .pedRc in niWr MS. BRACHPL: Tput 7ea rw .a 41tio3 about anw.ul adidq. Tkaat N+ for duitft that. [191 THE DEPONENT: I Yave .e pntlcuhe 1201 [211 [221 1231 [241 [251 t.unvledge abu.t tW. eU I pm tdl ye. Y tFat, •tu respect a q.wurk, ue e.ryr wnp tYat oae.rod was the amwal edittL3 ki.Js d ploceam. BY MS. BRACHI7.: Q I'm .oe ja.t talldq a6ca 7or penc..l t.owledge. Woaµ. 1'w talking about whether }oat Page 107 [11 tYu mfealing m ameelW3 u a•Wafeeie, it aYouW [ 21 be called biob{ie+1 activity? [ 3] A TWt i.Y.t 1liiek I Yuad [4] 0 Okay. [31 A YeaY. [s1 Q TY..ta. ca.1u. le..e Ir .q1M" 171 anre about vYe. you becd tNt ue wten Toa tead [a[ t-uaram.4o..a. [91 [b tu" eell me aqWs3.ou about wfe. [10] yo. teard that? [11] A lmh" wMN Nmy aan doiq tYrt [121 ti.da - tYnae ti.da uf teqs at PM. [13] Q Okay. WYeo waa Wet [141 MS. BRACRR: Baww aM, di tYe semd. 1151 MR. McDONNEU.: Belun I faRet, I wut [161 to object w /oondacb. Sm..da. 1T [ 1 1181 (Break) [191 [201 BY MS.BRACHIL: [21] Q Do Taw repll wteae )o" teard tYa! [221 A No, I do.'t. became Y did.Y directly [231 Yvahe ar. [241 Q RW Do yaa rocaR fmaa wtom yo. Ysald [25] it? Pa{e 106 eva Yeard. eve. Y'l'a 4uaq >somainbrat ee yaNp. that o>re.e .YU vteA Iee PfYly Morris a gIvee ly e IIIggestiors, 19 Yl W IY1fLa1 wOlak R yMales ia lYrir witw .mtt A CaW be, YR I ea.Y a)r b deReYey rvn tYat i was. 0 Otajr. Br 7oe Wd il mdd he; W ar Ju.t what k could be. MR. MtDONNELL• ObjectN.. C.ti Le pealetiae. AN I tYi.k Ye'e arw.tl the qeMb.. But {o aYead, Doctor. BY MS. BRAQi7i: Q YoN er e.ewr, aM I..de.r.d Wl 7m do.Y have 9rmW k.odedze, aed LLi a.qM jrt be w.etYiq that 2a. Ywr a.d 7ot du.Y t.uw Y iCa for ,mc, b.t r. - I.edd iBe yon an td me wYl iliaaYUAa4ui A At o.e tl•e, a.d I erY td 2ea .Yelrer Waib.prti.omerart,hettYanwa Se.eral nMic tpw tar .p Wd6 d aat tYe w.s des aMi - i. - Y erkau ti.i e1 a.a.Swidy tpb tLa rie7 weYi ee6r au ae 6bbgie.1 aCiviq. Bae tiaP, d I tam, ahostt B. Q Okaf. I Jid.'1 aNe.knd do - ety. So. in atiw wad4 }p. Yevd that aMY.r Pap 10/ A N0. Pae aawy. I M't. Q Okay. A.dSM. OWeW.-r dgbl. Did 3a. ewe Mr rW wQplioe tW IYe woad'add4.tW aYodd aea be ead i wd1b. aepa4 at Pt;lip Moraiai A I aenaidir .xar Yard tYf. Q Otq. Did you wcr rer It.t 6e ferm •rweafty awdaeti be .wt A IAo.Ybe4earIe.atcud Wetaas ued at PYwp MortL. [11] Q Okay. [121 A I du.Y e.ee tauw wyt Y a.een br [131 9111011. [141 Q Oka). DY 7e..mr Yr tYt eaq 115! auggestfon wu ¢.w r lYY# Muda N.t eaeai [[6] esae.aY aY9Md .cl be pM Y wWqT [l7] A To 1L bea d.3 Imw/Yip, swqtMe{ N Q 119) was dntreemi W 1191 Q Okay. Did )a. wa Y.r that aq l~a [20] nereua pojema tYat wan e..ut.S ae l0p Mowr N F.l [l1] Sut do doa WBiad tM rdeweiMa eweat ~ [u1 A Ye, I Yerd LLe1, llal I Ye.e r ~ 46 [231 BIW.d tsfu.iedee e( ty. [u1 Q Tell r uota you Yerd [251 A I teaad i.dYeclly fin. otYm psupM tYt
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mmethie8, as a td<etirt, that 7oe noald be ist<reGed I.7 id na ak tooeWieB differcat' Did Iar c.rs eboet the nnwr that 4qas had uked H. to elwe do.n Yit .eteertkr A At the tiea, I doe't tkiak I tkuuebt tn warY aboot it. Q Have 7oe eYa heard of that hdn8 don before at Philip Monia7 [10] A I dodt thiuk n. [l I] Q So lu.e 1'w ever keard of t8et heln8 daee (121 any place? [13] A I ke.e eu k.owled8e ef iL It ceald ka.e (11] beea. [15] Q Wu.'t it .kncktnb tn yoe an ke.rtket 116] [17] [iB] [19] [201 [211 (221 [231 12+] [n] Ywyen asked a researcher to dnte dowe YY tewrtit MR. McDONNELL: Ohjectiu.. AiBvme.tatne. fbndatiw. A I-alaetd,Ika.endirect k.owledeo of titt, sad I due4 hcYe.e that leqea en.ld do Wt. 1.eo, W eepu/un coald de tket, het I do.Y tWk that Yqen could dirxlll do that. PaBe 113 Page 114 BY MS. BRAt7i1'L: 0 Did Pee " e.b 11.i uet .ve .heet itT A No, I dideY. o H r.IF...raa.+ that year ,....,h be W-:_~., '-a .u..uew 7ee feat eba.t tkaT MR. WEIU Ohjeelir. Hlpolkatfd, M8. BRAQ(PL• Yee en r.ww. MR. McDONNELL: 17 ehjeR an the poundt that the hndnioe Y Yaoeplde. i it - kiY reartiee would depe.d .Poe the tlmuaaww, I uuere. BY MS. BRAORR Q Iet mee rk te.etY.{ diRereet. Yea did Pioeeaie8 work an the eYettaq aeoa e.d EE8 re.porm; ri84T A I worked a. aWcdoe nd 1.crtred a. EEO. Q That w pieewi.8 .erk; wer7 k? A it kd peteden Y tke Wmn.e, s I wudd.Y e.Y tlut po.erkag. Q We.eeY 7e, iWe.eeW i Ae.Jopt.b n eN.ao.etar - eYaMtnbM A Olhec.eteR Q 71ePS k. A Ho, .e'u, I did ent develop it. Page 116 [1] Q Oka)'. WeB, nu the wowk that lum did, [1] the tmeatclt that yoa did oe the oUecta, uaaa eW [I] [2l [3] the EEO n.atbine 7ou nere poud of? [3] [q A I would wI thatv 7ee. [S1 Q A.d 1, wYi .n wante8, on de/1w [e] 151 (61 leened that hqeo uld that that wak had b be [ 7] fiut dnwe, Yow eodd ro. feel ebout that? [Q [71 [ 8] MR. WEIL: Objea3w. HlpoUctid. [ 9] L.ek of fooedatio.. SPew4lf" [Q [91 [10] A I mWae4 i.e81.e .y rqen .o.kl .a.t [11] ro tket do.e that wwk. it they wedb. AW they [11] wodde't% of toaa, de it, .3 .upewiur wodd pe] (lt] [121 [13] BY MS. BRAl7t7L: [131 [11] 0 Yue ee.er ta0rod te Dr. -.Wke t8e4 [1e1 115] Did p. mr kear a.ryhoAy wpett s.ae ie [161 {odp that the reuoe Dr. DeNob4Y wetk wu ps] 116) [17] tawlaeted wes berame tke mw14 ke nr fl.dle8 11'8 [18] wew adverse ro the comp.qf [I8] [191 A I Proheby Meard tha, b.t u e [191 [10] saend$, it dtde't weke wurl, wte to .e. [211 Q Wky it tLetP [ml [211 1221 A Bevuw ie o7 mportL that I have mu [22] [231 that DeNehle 8e.erated er talt, that he waY ke.e [231 [24] {iroe iaereeny, did I me e.yul.e that .as adverse (141 [25] to the mMp.q. m 0 Yw uib 18epe were etYer iMa.ea n[ rmrcY heie8 tet.i.eteb beuer R wr aaufwnd to e.otka hciliy, the hdWiea 6ei.6 IHBiPO or PI'R; >•ow w3 iYeens - r Iwr erq i.mtsn w yoe aware af tYt Mppwebt A I tk4t roni the rmme tl.e ae .yke provius ta wkn I aeet ew tYue, teweal rojeqe nen tnrtcned /e ItIBIPQ, tb.e er finer, k.t tYa'e - tkY's 9tebabi7 ue e>deat ef it. 0 Atl .ew Pmjeas dtu en.tan,a ta RI'R. 1n adtbtiun lo the u.e. - te the tYee or fsw tiet wao n.tlanei n BIBIfOi A Yun keuw, I'm eui.e u We te erwer that I dee't keuw. Q Okay. TJ r ehan Me re]eaY Wt wen deedarM b INBIPO, mueeei.8 WetYy tke. 1.. A WaR, 6tw ws summee wark tYet wt - I eu'e 8i.e lem the polxt niee, ..tert..Nal). Q Okay. A Br tlre lwe to.e .aak piq e. i. .euian ayiate et mt kiolup tiet wa 8[hK aopYCUeb hou t. caq.e nb r Rk..nb, eea they eB.ieeted tYe bvpRmliom b/ A-mae8 Posid- r Rick.otl.
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Paae 133 Pyc 134 [ 11 whld purpogtedly s4ow t4et .imti.c Y admcuvei [ 1] P.ytl,iavic A.piiytioe Yaa rtp¢xtai MaBiea tYee [ 2) cened7 [2) tYow, rithat rwl.e i addidiw7 [ 3] MR. McDONNELG Ob]ect{oe. Poandatiae. (31 A I deeY 6eWn 0" re IYea ta.., [ 4) MS. BRACAIL: Are yue awaro of whether [4] Q Okar. Do 7ae taew w4fi.e PYY'Y} Malk [ 5] Ihe.e have beea .todlee deee that - mike tYat [1] YWs dose say n.e.wi r wf~w tie r.dir tiet ae.e (61 1.ead to take a bfeak. Ju6 pve a.e [ 6] beee mpated IYt w3aaet 1Yt aieqi.e Y [ .] ftl'e 11110utef. ( .) acklicti'et [8] MR. M<DONNELLa We're aeuat Ove winata [8] MR. MeDONNELL: Ob[ecMO.. ltm, [ 9] frae when we aid we would break for io.ri. [91 Yae ps auqe, [101 MS. BRACHIL: Oreat. Let's emat. [101 A We Yave firded tteJiea tYet Y..e co.pe.W (11] [11] the elfeas of a1Ye. wr.Poeeb wkY :oMfiffie. [12] (LuoeYeoa hreak] [121 BY MS. BRACJirL: [131 [13] Q AM aw those W MWr t4 we awe [14] BY MS. BRACHTL: 1141 tdted e6eet eul4r biqT [1!1 0 Have 7aa Yeard that rtedta Ya.e [1S] A That's owrott [16] beea deee that show 1Lt .{m0ee i add{N.e7 [16] 0 Otar. O1Yr tYae tier Y.dYs, b l.e (17] A I have Yeard rtudks kut have beea [17] t.aw, wwhether PYlip Moth kr de.e or 7a.AnA aq [18] de.e that have w{{eated tLt dmd.e .ijlt be [181 mseeml that e(eld the npmted sbdies tiat [19] addktive. 1191 suyeelt that dMlw i adtickiva7 [20] 0 Okay. Have you YeaN that the Amettcaa [201 MR. McDONNELL: ra mWn M ebJxt e. [21] Psychi.tric Anedalw has doee aemn that showed [21] tauaaeHee pu..aa, yeeane r. ,ti aut 9eat whet [?2] that ekatlee is addicu.et [221 Yadiel, ua aq wedles lne bee, ide.lkbi i.1Ye (23] A I deeY beke.e the A.erio. Psyehtatri¢ [23] record b wYri Iour qeeilbe .igit rol.u. B.t wkk [2+1 N.odatlon me, ,waFi ahedl). (24] that unlecme, he ae essr.ee. [231 Q Ha.e 7ou heard that the Ammim [251 MS BRACMPL• 7L.t yea Paae 135 Pa{e 136 [ 1] THE DEPONENT: 71e oey studies that I 11] MoaeW tknMOe h7Potaeek7 [ 2] know of ue the em tirt we qiokee about previously. [21 A P.e Yeaui k, aLor k, 7es. [31 BY MS. BRACHTL: [3) 0 What byw aedentad Naa typotirk ae ( 41 0 Okq. De 7M kaew a1 aq _ y.1se that (4] be? [J7 De you k.ow, wYetier PYWp Murtk Yss [J] A W W reyeet M dmtiee « wkk ropeee [ e] doee « fewed aq feaeaueY, ofYer tu.. Y yue aa.e 161 6o dprtCett [Y1 aYeadP teaRed, te era.iee wkdkee imli.e k [71 0 Wki meqt Y eimtlee, Ikrt 7... [81 addictireT (81 A I a.er rs awane el k i. Ne aaert of 191 A r. .ony, wr - [91 dpedta, bat .ct so setl d k is tlr eaaetot af [101 Q 4 k the ssr qaeub. I asked ya. (10] pqw ekai.e. [11] before? (Il] Q Okay. Wd4 rw Iue e.ae ieatd tb (121 A I OwuaM. I tbuaM. [121 \ryatYni Wt peop4 will iaw Yudee aed take .ae [13] Q No, 1]uR - 1 wade k a Iktk btt [13] pnHS af bwa sitwiee eipreur is adse bVt a [141 broader. So I tWK I.nkod Iae eulkr whether [14] catale a.oeet of 1icc0ee7 [15] PY6p Monik Yad deee aq rtadtee that e:hted W [17) A Escr.e sae, Yot I tkYk tYe [16] 6M8p Uat says tkat k i addkt(re. ad my (i6J okrJuacWkoa tke ekuHee Nkadae knsMYers. [171 d'd@rea quatba nw Y whether, u opposed to deee [171 0 Okay. MwY 7r W r wYet 7e. [18] Kudies to refile, do )em kaew whether PYWp Mm': [18] ndeRatl the eicuNr fk.Yio. Jpyoliei w M. N [19) ka doee aq uadles or Jrded say aledks, ofise (19] A My ..dnYe.dq k Wt peo* Pei 0 1201 elun u 70. Y.n already eruried, to a...l.a 1201 eprona" d e aiw :ent6e dek..r, sr uee k [21] whether aicotl.e is addicHve7 [21] the dooNr deY.n) k tea lar, they .q, oees lis ~ N (22] A I tW.t the udJ 1e.c.r<Y I t.uw abut [221 dntt tm., p.H Yerder. Bt k the jcotis Fr fit [21) that wu deea or wn fiuded we'.a akeadr talked [23] dekvep of the aipuaUa k foe high, tie7 wi pff ~ [2A1 atosl, I ui.t. [7A] kn knd. (2J] Q 7}a.k 7o.. Have 7a 4an1 of the [251 0 Ad tl1k i a kJpaOei Wt we'n
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P.`e 45 11] Poteutiat study. [21 0 Fspl.u to the ju7 wnu ptw.-re.enN 131 e.akod pntea.l study B. ~ [ 4] A Wa9, it 7" ronR that I erylatned wY.[ [5] an nrokee pnten4al was. [6J Q 1 do ronY tnat. [71 A 71: ttleo ro ths kid at pimela. [ 8] 6at's oed to e.oke the pute.caY. 191 Q A.d t6u tCanlus is a tpiaaiug [10] dmkerbo.rd, typically; conectt [11] A Not m'reK. [12] Q Okay. A oo.iej tleckabwrdt [13] A Aa apparcat .nriy ckecketboud would be [14] iore accunte, I would sq. 1eak. [15] Q Ai'iµl. A.d Bien the pattws evoked (16] pote.lial w,eaamx .k.t the brals wa.a do is [171 Tm9onm tu aeeiag this sppuraliJ .o.la( [181 deckuboaM: cmrcd7 [19] A It sae.was the taposae of the visual (20] QIIEIa b that {iECklfbMld. [21] Q Okay. As s•euoed by 6nia wa.nt [22] mnxti [23] A As sneatamd by the evoked Pnteatld. [24] 0 Okay. The uaeo.ekaiviq that [2s1 Dr. Ku6a1 tonad in the seaptas of the pizedad Pap 47 Paee 46 aene, are Jw awve af tiat pYeuo.eaa oeqnrg im respore m aq dker s.6Ca.m nais Wa sicoU.et A llen w w.ner wrpu..b Wt Ya.a nerooaalerri.e nsyoss. Q ra tiwiHa{ *kt aur aq qantinw m the GeraaWlMf.e .eryanca tYSt IYc raoeplos of the h$c.iW aens, aM r- wadmi.{ aad atkf.{ }ap wkmYar 7aa an awao nf utY.r s.4ta.ca that poduoe tkat tue respoue IYaeT MR. MeDONNELL: Atl r) f, ja 6r duiBodo., Sv. 3da't i.dcde the location tMt Dr. OuBotta tesliRed N hefae, Ike - I o.Y e.e. - the ca.wua pa( •r. r. .nt ..e 7uu ssdoded that deitbenley ar 6ecawe it's - ML BRACHIL: I a.d.dW k 6sa.. 1 4.a dfBnRy pm..dq IL BY M& BRACNII: Q Bt I tiudi wak. - 6at I skodd krhb m7seY ad ask 7Ya apia. PutSi1e M. 1Vkat it lie sasr nI the .W a the tr*.i.al swp wYpc the [22] starconallectivit7 •a•.kuw by Dr. Kabul? [T3] A He skowed it, actWy, an two PYm, [241 meam. [271 0 Okay. Pa{e 49 [11 A Na Yn.ed it an tia -.ItY tie aeptlta [ 1] [21 amiWaa Pofa.NJ. [21 [31 Q Okay. [3] [41 A Aad ke tiowad R at tYe O..aW [41 [sl woafim [S1 [61 0 Am yoa aware of ary ut4r suhW.oe tYK I 61 [7] pmdncat the staroaeloctl.e respure at the I 7[ [a] Oaruiu pnjWon of the 4i{aadaal aane other W. [ 8] [91 .itotlaeT [ 91 lto] A WoWd ran tepeat Ik0 qwtlna, pWw. [101 [11] Q Yea. Am 7aa awaw et aq other [11] [121 ss6rtaare that ppo3aces a slarmaelectM saqiws at [12] [131 the Qareriu pyYom of tL trigeni.a{ .ene aYer [13] [14] tkae aioatlaet 1141 1151 MR. WEII.: ObJM6n to lack of [1J1 [16] tuu.datln.. [161 [17] MS. BRACFiIL: What i the hd. for pner [17] (1a] onjecNo.t Wkat ru..dam.t I nkea Wn if ka was [181 [191 a.arn of. [19] [201 MR. WEIL: I doa't tiiak irs 6eem [10] [21] established tLt b's looked tar aqtNag cYa. [21] [22] ME. BRACN'IL: You ue a.swar. [221 [231 THB DEPONENT: Yes, su'aw, tkesn ve [31 [24] nuwrow cosVoeads uu hekas fa that s..ser. [24] [24 [?31 BY M5. BRAOlITIa Q Ca.7o.t.rr-r.tYwsaa7 ooapoawt that we k.uw r enp that reaot ia li.t mam"? MR. McDONNBLI: Objaaiua vas.e.w you.da. TYM w k.uw a. Aiys i sq krJ. MS. BRACiRL: AM ri)M. 7Lak 7oa. BY MS. BBAONPL• Q Aw tbtw a.y .n0 ur Mua.x tk.n «ryose Wt p an awaro.R A 7fat's a wq a.yYwNd qaesNoa, ems .dn .ut taYdq abnat anp .7gM anu, .e're tatid.g a6ust ssnuq stts..Y, ad.en fpeak+q acn.e tus.artla; wray an.a. 0 L.t sr 1.7 aad .ake my.eM slear. Or. Kubat dowed tYat imN.e pudaon this tnui. te.po.e tn awtai. .a.as. rm we.as.g ..ar. other dnp, as Mtob ar eucaiaa, pndaee a d.R.r testw.sa; I. tYt a IagRl.pa q.estio.t MR. k4DOt/MBIL• RM1Uiar It's IapY.ra ar .ut, rn goiB r obJea ka it aa tr pw.i that, a.uy «wr W.O, N rw.s uat dmu.e Y a bu{, which i.ut aos.atWa uae 7o.Ye asked him ar tk.s W kav art.hYW x far wYr~ IYae i aoy 6nis i. IYe temN M tYa depnrt6..
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Pap 205 [ 11 COMMONWEALTH OP VtRGINiA AT LARGE, b [ 2] I, Tau7n L. Wnod, RPR, Hataq Pub1k 1s [ 31 a.d fur tYe Co..n.weakY of V4dai. U lu[e, ud _ [ Q .bn m..wiom e.P:p Apq 30, 1997, do urttfy [.] tl~ the JOrOmfLf1WOd appeared b6lU1s ~ Af ~ [ 6] by M, iW At up0q~ p.WpQ by <OpYOf: mb [ 7] ti.t tie turctoavg Y a hae, mrtetl, ..d fur [ 8] tr.ucriV ut rue reqi.nq .dauwa. [9] 1 fivtYer mrtf)' th.t I.. .eithar [10] rcl.tcd to .nr aRod.ted with .q cuaud or puiy [11] to thb Pweadint, .or ulhwwke in[tteftcd i- the [12] e.eat tYueuf. [13] Gi.e. ..drr .q YW ..d .ut.ria ual at [1!] Rich.w.d, Virjici~ 1Yia 91i day of &pteabm. 1997. [151 1161 T.q. L. Wood, RPR - Notary PoWie [17] Cowmo.weall~ at V'xsWa a Large 1181 1191 [20] [21] [22l [23] [2+] [~] N O ~ W N h+ ~ ~ ~
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PaSC 141 PaSe 142 [\1 Q AaC tLUse eftec4 oa tLC lateoc/, tfe ( 1] A I.eaft e.at aq tuf ipta:, yeo.q [ 2] i.asue, tb o 3.oSe ud he deqea.e we.e .Y due [2] I ody did twn u.diq wiLL talfd.e. [31 m aimti.e; cortmtt [ 31 0 Okay. [ 4] MR. McDONNELL: Objeafon to looadatiu.. [41 A I tY.k I woaid aead .aro dY, Wxe i [S1 A 7f.t - we arowiy rek t6at, 7u. ( S] tonM madud.ey uy tkr. [6] BY MS. BRACNTL: (6] 0 AR riSit. Did yovir alydfu iow that [7] 0 14ne 1aY, wae du.e w4.T [ 7) dfei.e dewe.sed tke Wear of Nl W do [ 8] A Pd uT be{innia8 1. 1982 tlY tie eul d (8) deceued W YttacT d PT [ 9] 1997 - (9) MR. McDONNELL: C.oYd - Tan ies b be [10] 0 Aro To" aware - [101 readis8 60. a dueraeat, ..d Y 7pt u, pt tY [11] A - os a.d otF, escuw .e. [11] doeonea i. M1n.t d W, w do p. wut M, m trT [12] Q Thank Toa. Am Tom awne d- ne >rw [12] to ro.e.hd7 [13] awne whether there ate other cumpuundt 4ut produce (13] MS. BRACH7L: At the .o.e.t. P. Ie.dlq (14] the uwe dleet as dup aim0.e o. latency to Pt i. (S41 ho- q owa Panurl .ers, N Y ke eut tmamkar, [li] patlm..mwW e.oked pofrstiJ atud4sT [131 1ke., cart.iay. we er 6nk Y.e.e don.n.1.. B.t [161 A '11e o.y dkef mnpoo.d tkat I k.ow Foa a (161 R. Yyi.B to keeP tki hM atl i.pl.. [17j fact has beea looked at witk tkit partka4r parWp (17] MR. MeDONNELL: I rdaM.d. I (18] 4 a(feis. [18[ ..dmM.ad 7Tu.k Paa [191 Q A.d wt@J.e does .ot peduoe tke us,e [19] BY MS. BRACN77.: [20] remdt af dues icoti.e; dues it? [20] 0 MT qrkiw Y: Do pn ned wYetker - [21] MR. McDONNELL: Objeaia.. Paw. [21] pn'ks 1kat. [22] A It poduw .ep sImOar m&dt& to [22] Do 7ow tan8 the rewkt of p.r [771 .iaoti.e. 1231 alwea Smum ua aYu. [24] BY MS. BRACHTL: (2I] Did 7ea Sd tYt otfd.e d.e.a..ed tlr (2s] 0 But .nt ris w.e:.I{htT (73] we.q d both the NI ..d the P.ewe7 Psye 143 Pap 1M [ i] A WeY, I did two 6adiu. [1] 0 Okq. A.d i it Tor tekiwT - wed. [2] Q AMript. [21 YRTar-udwkatdWRdobtYeN We.cTT [3] A A.d 1 k.ow I pt tka rowlt in or [ 31 54iks tkat. (Q study, Mt I do.t k.uw wketku I got lkat rmaR Ia [ 41 Did.t /w do PREP t<Y tkat Jewed tk.t [ S] a.ouet. [ 51 acud.e did " .xaa the N1 LfasY7 [6] 0 AII tiSY. A.d is a PREP, .imtlae [61 A IT.e.nT tena, r anee, 1 dlda [7] deaeuea P lateeey, Gt does .ot affett N hte.cT: [71 roati.elT Sd a. dfent a NI WesT. [e] ooneett [S] 0 Okay. Ad dY Tet fi.d fYt o1(d.e [9] MR. MeDONNELL: ObjeNe.. Vatue or (9) W- in the PREP, W ao eMetb ea a.PWdeT [l0] Ma Beqoe - [10] A TMse dW, I du.t reoL Il1] MS. BRACHR.: Oh. rw awq, p. ,n [11] Q Do Tat eaq/ tkat .ira1W 1. Oie PREP [121 t18kt. (121 deaeaed N awP6t.deT [13] BY MS. BRACN77.: [131 MR. MeDONNELL: I. wkal MW 114] Q Ia the tmti.8 tkat )un did, did 7w [14] MS. BRACNIT.: 71e PREP y.din tk.t ka [15] lean tYrt drotHe ia a PREP k.s u effect a 1151 did. [16] N 4teaeY, b.t dxxuea P lat..cT7 [161 MR. MeDONNEtL: fwoLiq eip..W [i7] MR. MtDONNEI.L: Objectloa Vaeaa. Put.. [17] MkokaT N [l8] A I. - I.e.er rtwtl.ey Sut .m eKwt a. [18] MS. BRAOiIL• Ys, d wa r..aP. ~ [l91 Nl Ltr.eT. 71s eftms tkat .aro wdT tepSrahM (19] Go .k'ad. W [201 wers with respect to M hte.". (201 THE DEPONENT: Woad P.. t.pw the ~..t [21] BY MS. BRACN97.: [211 qaeob.. pWM N Ir [22] Q Oka7. So deotiae deaeated P 4teaq i. (23] BY MS. BRACHR.: ~ [731 )oa PREP rtudT: tiSkt7 [73] Q Saa. Yun lo..d, did 7o..e1, Oal W 124] A Niwdae, as deS.ered is ctprotte [24] .koti., deae...d N a.qlk.d.7 [7SJ tmoke, daaealcd P1 iateaq, Iea. [2S1 A I.uu.e wYa Ta..ro .peakiq d i. NI
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Page 145 Page 116 [ t] n..plitodc. [11 A i<a ~a buk a it b. a.em.a - [21 Q Yp, tL.uk 7o.. (2) Q Sm. [ 31 A T4n wu .ot a fladiu8 tkat wu [31 A - a.d I7 let 7an ka wYe6er i [ 41 raW-J%-'bk• ( 4) nmpire k. [Sl Q Gkar. Bu pm dd 1rd k, e.ea lmnp [ s] Q wak al k.. a... L, w9s, r [ 6] k wwY rcP,odudMq rigiO [ 6] dmpl/ pY8 te ..k )ca wkelkv low empl.e k, W [ 7] MR. McDONNELL: I uhjed I dwY [71 ram 8ais8 w ask }ou aber my a.dmMYdhB d tYe [ 81 aadsnaaad 1b.t 9uutb.. Yuu loa.d k, 6at'e wu [ 8] d'dferoaon 6etw.a. the effat d nDdr ad [9] aet .epmdocbleT [9] .icaiae a- pw«.+ev«.d e.ekw wwir. (101 BY MS. BRACHTL: (10] ThaCs wLt ra gaiq b uk. Bat mad wWe.er [11] Q Yqk. Did lo. B.d k7 rw ant askb{ [111 7oYd like. [121 wketler it was repodaobM, rm asidsp did Ia. B.d (12] A Okay. [13] it. Tkat wu a nvok Ikat la+ h..d; enncdt , [13] Q Tak pur fLe. [14] A I did wu7 xudks wkk 1ke PREP, ud [11] A All e4W. [15] I au7 kase {aReN as eNeo< a. NI anpYtade as a.a [15] Q Do 70o reeupias tkiY datr.ealt [t6] rtody, bt I did.'t noutl.ell repmduce that e/tacL [16] A Yes, I do. [171 M8, BRACH'PL: Okay. lat's look u au [17] Q Did )qs a.M1ne kT [18] ea6,tk lkat we7 anrk .nw u Golkva 2. [98] A I maakmed k, a.rtA. [191 [191 Q Witk BNYST [10] (CULLOTTA EXHIBiT NO. 2 was aurked.) [201 A 7SatY con.n. [211 [21] 0 Wb's 8k.kaf [22] BY M8. BRACHIL: (72] A 71.t ws tkft aride, a..a af Oid7 Hapr. [73] Q Du /w rampJee " dury.rat, k's [23] Q OY. I. Qk* Hq.a a rqrT A Lwy.r7 [24) daad M W 9, k iqs k's ho. 7ua ad [24] A Na. [2S] C. I. SkWs to Dr. Dart [2S] Q I. Dr. Dr a 4wpR PaBe 147 Page 148 [ 1] A No, ke B.ot. [ 1] A l bdinm k wr Ll.dy Hayu. [2] 0 Yn.4e .ot a law)er, .igktt [2] Q Hi Did As Yns r•AW..e7 wxk [ 3] A Nn, I aa ant [31 huda' rta.P! [ 4] Q Was tYs don.eu - mckda (mws ywr [ 4] A I b.Wn dn obuisd k tws a [S] anwee o7tHq k..iq m do wkk BtlpNo.. [1] mweu7• [6] A I doa't kaow wk.t yu..eu 6Y LLu. [31 0 Okay. WYt noagw [ 71 Q WeM, I rte.Y a1knA u7 qaosdm JeL [ 71 A MyWU OPSalseffilk7(Pb-ofic). [81 r- eoiy m ask 7na a 9aesila.. [81 0 Okay. 9 Mks OpaeYe.ky 80 u [9] Did lua 8i.a uY .un m aq Wqua at [9] Pk81P Ma.ri7 [10] ap ti.w aLLer tY.m in r9por 1o a dowaa[ reqaat [10] A Yu, is i. [II] i. NtIptb.7 [ti] O MM1e+ did CJ.d) Hq. Ret tYR 'AUwae7 (121 A Nat fo q k.o.ledjl. [12] Wa.k Pmdrt' fa9qt [13] Q Yon dld.Y.4.R k to aq trkw [13] MR MeDONNE4L• ObjWfaa. 14..duf... [141 Yw7en fur re.iew or aqtft IBa tknt [14] BY MS. BRAqiTla . [83] A No, I did aut. [15] Q D.Bo. kaow wir Hqas pl tL - 116] Q THs Pa9a re9orts a. PREP ud rpeaaY 1161 A 4t r eapl.in wssetWg N 9a.. [171 knkK to do wkY uRaiu; ri8Y7 [171 Q TL.k )a.. [18] A TYCS IL mpie d k, Yat (t8] A Yaa wli id a aap af Iki aa4dad N ~ [19] Q Wen aq lawlen e.er i..uhed in tka! [19] Gm,, eetnl fBr tW w81 .M Yar. His'AYr.n w [201 rcwrtt [201 Wart Hodrt• Mawp o. it ~ [21] A Absolutely aul. [z11 Q Okay. N ~ [22] Q Seo .18kt Ya9, k u79 •Atfousy wodc [22J A 7fan w.a .ma(Wa st tYs tl.. wM.1VE CJ1 [23] Product,' did 3on pat tiat tixe7 [23j w.n pro.idiq Y dapYeW aopLa 6r - M (A 4~6 [24] A No, I did .ot p.t k LLm.. [74] ruria ml .vk wYBa I w 6 Odcipr. Ad al Oa [73] Q Do yoa k.nw wb dtdt [25] aad uf uut tW, I wr - I ws a ps wid uf tbs
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1 y I ~ ( 1[ talking about; correct? [21 A Tat'a canect. [31 Q DN Pkilip Morti du ur fu.d rcteuch to 141 tat the validity of dit k/paYa{at ( 31 MR. WE1L: ObjaW.. Lack of found.tiow. MS. BRACNTL: If yo. k.uw, THE DEPONENT: I tkiek they did fowe limited t6ort-tem awmes ia-koute. I do.'t kaow whcMet - I dna't thtuk we'.a luaded - MS. BRAC}ffL: Okay. THE DEPONENT: - aw8ta un the uuttide. BY MS. BRACNTL: 0 Aad the reteami that was dcae Wuute mpported the .didk) uf the aito0ac titntb. hypothesis; aoo"t MR. MeDONNELL: Obj<Wu.. Paudatb.. Aid if ps have Hediea ia aWd. I tki.k k9 od)' fak to duw the wk.er'a atteatln. to t4m a.d att Ws wietiu Ye .peoa or ditapeep with your ei.nae.ir.tion of u<.. MS. BRACNTLt Yus na aa.¢t aq qaotio.. THE DEPONENT: Would you repeat il api.t BY MS. BRACl77.: Q Sare. Do nw know w6eth[r Philip Manit Page 139 mnta. A.d to ws oo.datod a tttdy aLo.t that, .ud hew ar rcwYa, a kat, awun other the M..ute : qutaio, wo uioe .utc sWMiae,Y.a what the PPc m••t.'s'G'3 V Q Did tkat at.d/ mra.iae at dl wkelku mmkcn will pu/[.urc tn jct nate aicdi.ol A I doaY tkGt I attuLt9 a.camed aq Pulliug heka.iar. Q Did toa Y.y wq nno.e w4tler tuokm behaved dfltaeakly Y.s atte.pt 1o jat .as a{mliaa [131 A I da.'t tYi.k Wt wo the p.pots cf the (141 Andy• 119 O ReprNcr of wkouet Y wu the p.pae (16[ [lzl of the aludy, wu that - was tL.t 6ekaHOt beted att (181 [19l 1201 121) 1221 [231 [241 (2s[ A I beSffe the tetukt -.ow- tiia kn Leen a bsl; time tiae I've boked at It - tiat they would toW to {et a.aa atcutis fmm, the luwer dcN.aq ei2nstta, as 4r aitu5.e rmm the k46er ddheq dpratts. Bat tkfa wu a u.e.kot study, a.d it wn .ay aaW. .eder tu.aoGed la6ontoq m.mtiur. 0 Whea was that rtudy duset I Pap 138 [I[ La rneua b wt the ..8dd, ut tY, wmtie (21 dtaatio, kypmtraa [31 A I h.8s.e tYtro wws rtdlr tMt wate (41 m« I.tw.aly. [ J] 0 Okay. AW dY tYa. 4rW w.df.a ( 6] fuppon the .Wdily d the ieutbe Wtatioa 171 krwtknid [8[ A I aa't tacJ the renYs ef cw ft.Jf [91 tYat I dida't ao.d.d. I did smotker ttadt Ort Inn [101 us tkat iroe, b.t Y was sot tpedflop7 tatU.{ [11l that YypMhtaa. (12] 0 Aid did tlrt ridl' esani.e t.nkm.' [131 patPrB tri.vior r it idttu M Sski.{ .imti.e [141 iaro the slttewt 113] A 7fe ttsdy that I didt Usl Q Yet. (171 A I dn.Y tWk I a.eu.ed .aW pOf.~ [181 behavior. 1191 O Okq. W W ws 70111 wad)t [20] A 'M1ss wat a at.d) ws a.dactad wYen ws [211 wets aapVA 1n a t.wwa with Bww a WWt.w.. [221 bdawe they W marketed a eiprotta that dd.ad r V4 be uf a.eq bw delfiu/ le.al. (ul 0 N3mti.e d~ [u1 A Yes, A.d wa 6oc{Yt tW that was .ot Pafe 140 [1] A IaaYtall 9r.b.tltM.kitwr (21 dlwi.i; the tine wm w.n i.wi.ed with BNpNom with (3) Bruw. a WOWao.. (9 Q Tl.ak yar. Okay. Y.w teatKei erRer. (5J I EeBne, that pa. did pWa.-re.atd ewiked (61 9ote.tW tttdiae tW [il A Trtt•a ocnntt (sl Q Okay. A.i tYOts at.dW tYowtr that [91 aarokhm decreased the Y1..eT of the Tl w.Pa.mat; [I0] toeaet p11 A Wkat tt si.wetl wa Y dtaeatsd aM tw [12[ t.aeatml the Ymaw .nr the nytm we taseL [13[ Q Okay. Did 7am saal.ds tYal the 9caeats [1Q i the lata.q d the !1 wa is Y roolirl [1S1 A Ws m.ri.ded IYt it wr muM " 6tn [es[ to raUse, amtea. [171 0 Dii ya..u.rlada Wt the wispYMa af [181 the deueata is t4 PI Lteu.Y t.oaamd at a [19[ f..Cio= a/ aioatis t1eYw.pt [201 A It-tYebRwa9ltveWlW teb 1211 )o. lt tYat tM slfattt ws fo..d was tn iawartai (22[ U feaein., wd tYta ..r a aaal• u.p. it wo0aro+ 1231 axtwea n 41e.a7. w« s.a.[r ttKe, it [241 .u cY.nBa, m in s.nta.r u.p. the reaar ttwal [2s1 yolm r the ndar atraee..
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P.S< 153 Page 154 [ 1] smeta.y - did I uy .umcthin{ ~ alrtadyT What [ 11 BY MS. BRACHTL: (2] 3Affa7wmaSy [21 G Do]wYrsaqYYawbyws [ 3] A GPaC6easq. [31 ,eaenq brt I 41 0 Gr. tLUlc Toa• Do I.adnanW yaa [ 41 MR. MeDONNE[L: ObjeeN.. I51 wffectlf.7ou, teW-yibe that 7ur [Sl A Ier4tdlya.wbsYew.asepa.q [ 6] e.denu.do8 i, that Mi OParieask)•, tYe saaetap. (K1 for at the tl.e. [ 71 told MY Hayes to Ya.p th1up tbt vRao seat to yo. (7] BY MS. BRACHD.: [ 8] i INBIPO witi'AVnaaey Work Produet•; Is that I 8] Q r. .at Rs wlre ao....letL3. i [ 9] right? [ 91 fbiak lrou re 1eYta8 s.e you do.Y Ws a eu.oate [10] A 71at is n) aadeatac8n8. [10] k.owbd8e. rm atkii3 wYetYet p. have aq Ne.. [11] Q Aad did Miu Opacheasky have a pa.ittoa [Il] Tkat's a&'dteroat macept Sn do 7uaa Ya.e aq [121 other fAa. seercta7 a[ PGBip MamkT (121 itleay 113) A Not that I Y.ow of. (131 MR. MeDONNELL: Aa/ I objwt a. the [14] 0 To wbm did sYe aG r raehqT (14] pou.ds that tie qoestin d4 M qewl.tlo., and [1J] A I doa't kaow at that lleriod uf tl.e. (1S1 Dr. Gutlwla is w1 roqdred r yeeaYr at your [16] Q Do 7oa Ya.e aq ideaT 1161 ivitatlo.. [1Y] MR. WE1L: Gbjectio.. [171 MS, BRACHIL: Yaa er ar.w.P q.rWa. [18] MS. BRACH7L: WYat's the rucr with that 1181 THE DEPONENT: All I r ta6 y.a Y i [19] 9uestba! 1191 was i Earope at the ti.e, aVn wr the melaq a [20] MR. WEIL: CaOS far spa.c4No.. He [20] the O.e. I doaY Y.ow who she wat roat.q for. [21] .P he doeu4 tww. [21] BY MS. BRACML• [221 MS. BRACHT[.: Go aYead I22] Q Ad Is YPenn IMi.o.P Paa hn .a ilaa [23] THE DEPONENT: I wr i Evope at the (231 who she wr reet.y faY! [24] W.e. r l do.k k.nw who Ye was ramluy for. [241 A I du.Y Yaw aq iir wYn ia wt ful [u] saneuq f«. P.Se 153 Pap 1!i [1] MS. BRACFrrL: 71a.k 70.. (1] reviewed this dowraaT [ 21 MR. WEIL: Ereer .e for oae .ime. I [ 21 A Oaos aSai., wa'n lalking a6aat aidie [ 31 aPobBQa for the i.tanaptb., b.t tM" dosv.eat [3] r deliverod i dp.ar s.oae. My ...wP is that [ 4] remiuds we of a Loeseteepin6 matter that I probably [ 4] they both anr deerorr i P1 WeuY. that. i I S] shocW have niwd a the W.e Fshihit Numba I wr (7) addklu.. that, ae lea with le~per. r tHS ardP. [ 61 taaodxed. (6) tNpe wr a deaear i NI Werp witY nHaie Wt [ 7] 1.otice tYat 6otY ErifbMa 1 and 2 aro 17] wu wt 106011 wili d*artla. [ 8] .askeA'fndWealW' .eder the A.vh protetfhe order [ a] 0 Okay. 7LY TsL AM tMr wae (9] and wodd, tUeref«e, ask the neparr r.ark the [91 anpYt.de eflec4 aYe; e.raaT [I0] trarpipt. the eatire fn.aipt r•Co.liJeasP [10] A 1. Ws prtioYr mJP. 7.m r. [II] i the B.nu cw, wYrJ, ved to be the Arch eaw (11] aoara [12] dmi.3 the i.tui. period provided by the [12] 0 Ad i rii PMiwlar 1rdP. IYw wr 113] m.BdeWaOy order. (13] ao a.pla.es eBeob wiH aMe/.e, and Wn ws a [14] MS. BRACNIL: AYe, we wd to have the (14] decared N a.pW W wYi .IemW; righlT [1S] .ideop.P6er ..d tb a.t tepatar tlp (1J] A VYY imti.s as deli o1pMr [16] w.Rde.tl.Yy apcsne.b. I bva aar. rm wp. (lbI swoka i t!Y PaNculat 1t.ibd Y.dl. P.. I wi It'/] Nere's a.cw .ideoaapYer m.i.8 I.s, so Buaes - [17] agree with tYt. [78] [la] Q naaB ye., r .m. r..wy r r. N O [19] (D:o.rin oR w nm.d.) [t9] pii r rt p...rL' g rLr 14. ardP .a.i QZ [201 M 7e.; w ya awar .t aq .oer ampuuni that W H+ [21] BY MS. BRACHTIe [21] produce the ur af/aet e. Yt..c2 and a.plft.da i a ~ . [221 Q I wodd like to So back to talking aboat [22] PREP silWba, aYer tYan r Po.4..iready (~ [?3] the diffen..ms i the PREP stud4a em late.cy ..d [231 lertifled, r duea RioeN.A ~ ~ [ul a.WRnde <sa.ed by .iad.e and eat(are. ..d there [u] A N., r•a.. I io.t - r. ..e ...e .t ['LK] ..e mffertau: ean yow teY aw what they am Yavis3 [2S] a.P other wnpoa.dt that rta iqen tnled i Ws
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P.Be 169 Pr{e 170 I 1( n7 that PhiBp Mor,t. wa- te.o.iu8 tYe4 writtu [11 }na .urk ma.BLt the .i>s tY.1 ioais Y rt [ 2] tePurt.7 (2) Wdip'na okal• [ 3] A No. (3] BY M8. BRACNIL• ( 4] Q Okay. (41 Q Da 7a...denhd IYY7 (5) A Hae't 1Ys .etae u1 LLe ti.dt uf thtnp [J1 A I r.daMeJ the 9.nti.., Gt 1 i.'t ( 6] t6.t wouW h.ppa.. Let .e .olunteet this. Yor wouW [b] taow Yo. m raqm.d te LLY, bmaae .y vort duet.Y ( 71 write .p e.epurtp 70. .oukl fuad Y to 7our ..u.8or, (71 bar .pw .ddctlu. ( 8] the a...{a wodd aitbar aonett the .eeae a [8( A Maq w t.ks a yuid bn.k ar - (9] wtrett the pven.r aed nk yw to emcb.il k. [91 Q Qa I]w p/M .fr1r7 (10] A.d I'8 {irs 70. u ez.-pl.. W. wme [10] A 8.e. [111 ta1H.e about a tmdJ wYer til the Wnte uA [11] M0. BRAQfifl.: 7L.k 7.e, [12] bns. AW I uid we qt cw equd rwo.MS of cWate [12] MR. MeDOHNELL: Is Wt J d&7 [13] .ad bue, sad the moeet I 8et 6.ek Wu it tlodd M (13] TNE DEPOt1EM: Ye.Y, I n. YuW u. 114] eqw[4ndar, w6kY I teW7 d{d.'t ..derta.d the [141 oolYer tl.e .t.afa. [1J] d/t~ betweee equal ..w.b ..d equ.l .oi.r. ] [111 M5. BRAd17L• He nid it ... a8 ri8it. [161 Thinp of tWt utms. Y [16] T4tek 7u. [17] MR. MrDOHNELL: I pmt tY.t l.Oa I. tYC [171 BY M7. BRAOHTL: [fe] atapq of taatp. [l8] Q H.w yam mi..M a tri W.We. r [19] M8. BRACH7L: I W.k tFrtY d{M. / [19] EEO relpooel r.ddlctiw wha.nst [70[ BY M8. BRACFrIL: (20] MR. MeDONNELL: Ob)aYa. V.pe. 121] Q L 7or opidn., doa 07 nf your EEQ (21] A I Ye.n mi wqrb n. EEQ nyo..es to [22) n.auri m.u.dN the podNou that am1W Y.ot (22] .nioa d.ra d a6..ed a-po..6. 7a, I Yw. [23] eddlCli.e7 [2i] BY M8. BRAC}tllt [24] MR. McDONNELL: W.Y, xak, r. Iwt - [?A1 Q Okay. DW .p d LLe raporr tYt 7a. [Z5] P.a ta to ..Eenta.d tLe .eptl.a.. Doa .q d [7!1 cbee..W im yo.r raensY a. dectfs a.b rpperc. P.{e 171 P.p 172 (11 tYt bad 6eet rcporteQ in the Yn.rto to Wd(ctf.e (1] BY ME. BRACfi17.: (21 ous..cwt 121 Q 1h ta.s a tus EEO wat ult 7o. ala [31 MR. MeDONNELL: M Wc. ObJmeo.. 13] ds - tbie tYt [4] Vat.e. Mt.ie. (4] Ie YI a( tM te..ch tYrt 70. M.t ( S] MB. BRACIfrt.: Oo e4W. [ 51 MOfp MarY, an pa e.re.t..y wp fa wMti (6) THE DEPONENT: 71etY . ta7 m.p8nted (41 dmtYr r4d o. 6e body tYM i rLY b (71 qauNo.r w.'a.. A.d the re4w why it Y Y [7] repanea wap MM anp rs - ue tW ( 61 bnuwe, .kkootL, Were i a.ut WuM.re o.t [9] [ 9] tYme aw the eltacb of drvp om the EEQ, 1 Ad.eq 191 (Mr. 9Y.Y i.at raer.) (10] Wtb Mi{M EEO wak. Mat of q.ak nt witY [10] [11] a.oked pode.tl.Y. Ad with relpeR to tlle [11] MR. Mr.DONNELL: Or1ds.. Dr.p7 1 [12] Pattct..ro.aW evoked pete.Nel wML h.0 al [121 .e.., 8.p aYa Ws lcurty7 I...., Ya'r (131 .h.s, tYem fo4 . BUntwa. [131 wYw..y oodrics e.., hw. (141 BY MS. BRAGffL: [14] M/. BRAfRIL• Pm od.Aq .imfie fw. (17] Q Yqt did ps EEQ•emt, Noqi; ajM7 (15] q deQdBn..t 3y. (161 A Voq euy u., 1 did ms.ar>. a7 (16] MR. MrDONNEIl r..w2. [17] hief EEO work, 7a. (17] M8. BRACNIL: N., 1Yt'.1W. A.d i. [18] Q We..icotl.e7 [l8] as>d.g acu.t the body, r. ral.arft rie bnr. ~ [19] A Witi dpmee taoM. [19] W (201 MS. BRACH(L• We er bn.k .uw. 71ok (20] (Mr. Wdl Is f.re[.) [211 >- f+11 N H+ [22] (221 TxE uEPw+E7r: 1 Pr, .o., I ao.Y (f[ [23] (OFMk) (23] ..dura.d the y.eaor a.M 7ut tePat Yf ~ O [I41 1241 MR. M4DONNELL' My easq Y cWifJ B, [75] (Mr.Wdii.utPrneMJ (251 b.t...
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Faqe \6S Paae 166 Q, (1] rekMa(vmaetK). [1] A r...e ube.e .ve a..e,e...aa.n [ 2] 0 b Je sdll tim¢ at PW'IW Mwdit (2] aptalo. 46entaq kWp wkre tk..t taWe akWlr [ 3] A Yes, .: u, she k. [ 3] dck.eq to co...er .eoe0nhiftt. [4] Q Ha.a p e.er saa a doca.w.t er a rapk [ 1] Q Ha.e tes md tkmet ( 3] that mrtel.les dwtW k.d to prodect (3] A No. I ie.Y eN.k rw nW W... [61 .ccepabim7, other tY.m a 7a'•e .keaat [6] 0 tla.e to. e.a keara aqa.e taB:.bot [ 7] te.tltkdt [ 7] apedfiak7 wbal : tl.e rd.e. 0,100,001 d.ieo1W ( e] A I doak ka.e ut tpedBe .e.wrka d [8] teq:aed m kmp mra.ps ax~ (9] it. 191 MR. MeDONNELL: 7Uk k at aq tls [10] Q De yeu kare a teeeni .rmmtt [10] dmie8 w 20 feant Okay. I]rt waut ta .rb [11] A Would yw repsat the qaaaio.t (11] turo. [12] Q SSea. Ha.e )a e.er Ke. a dorn.eal w a (12] A 71e a.l) tkYK Hat 1 Mswr tn tYat [13] p.pk that tonei.tea Mmtlas b.al to p:odect [13] wYeb rmpert wr ttlap lkat I kaud rep9Bed tlrl [1!] aaeptaMlkpt [11] Ra. Ta.d Wd Y the p.pm. [15] A I matl) de.R rta6 [13] BY MS. BRAONrL: [16] Q Okay. Have fam ke.ud k uid by uto.e [16] 0 WYt an 7nm nladq tet [17] at PYik Mwds fiat time's a ccRd. k.d d [17] A I tYi.k r. Md one ..[u i. Yk pwsoW [18] .kntYe .emr.q to keep mso.en hayiq [18) effeNS that se.ebw foW Wk.y r r Br Pyv. [19] ale.roltest 119] I daaR kaow bw tYy 8a tYw, tkat adi rrtYi.g [20] A I bdb.e IY. YeaN nnebedt sl (20] a6eat JY, hW I arY iw.61. 4W wYt k wa. [21] tlat. , [21] Q DY ]....rt /aBkfpYa Ir a.y t..nak [221 Q DYi.k. Did PHkp Murtis do w trd (22] tn ddat.Ys Ne a9tlstr IeM d.koBr ` [2.3] aq research tu detassf.e wYat, k u7, k.el d (?3] dryNtes b kaep a•eken atkM1d! [24] aoU1r k.ewwq in uwder to teep oor..a. [2Q A I Y1 rt puBeiqOM i aq d Ikw (2S] fsok(ugt (25] ri9dW. P.p 167 Pap 168 [ 1] 0 B.t rt.die, ike that wan dert ( 1] tks word'rao.ed.' dii }ca ewr Yer.ql:odt (2] A Wee, tuo k.ew, r..~e Oian Madies [ 2] cuwqas tYat PMkp M9rtk wr w.k.kiq tYir ( 3] wero dose 1. lOL, benuse we produmd pnoduns at 13] w.kw woek /or aorart (1] .uiou r.qas af siotls deNteq yofq fm. [ 1] MR. MeDOHNELI.: Hew, w wn ieiq II.e [S] .1 .ullipu ap to I d9.R kamr wY.t, aW m we 1!] YR tew pt b avatlatdq. [6] t.ow tYt - we wut to kanw wYir! sa8s.ea d tke [6] M7. BRACBR Ri81k. [ 9] a..rket evi d tkm utWis u1 d8areke, sp9eY ( 71 ML MtDONNELIt 8e.oi{ d [8] to. (B1 sa.dridq k eqti..ka, saJ 1 waW 6e Axted k [9] 0 Did tuw o.a Ya.e tYN KWp Morti [9] PYkip Maek d{d.t actiLir tke wh tkat wr (f0] s.u.{e.eat ro.kwed ewpk9eea' siewa., antebooks or [10] Aow liaa (11] i.te..l teperts bodq /ee uatlBs Yfaw.atN.t (11] M0. BRAOHfte L.t ar Iq ad be a kit (12] MR. McDONNELL: O6jectio.. V.pa. P, (12] sama dar. [13] aol sfa wYLL )w .e.s by 'Mdkp Mertb aW-'R 113] BY Md. BRACHIL: [11] Do )om wa.. aqo.e at Pfifp Martist [M] 0 DY tau aser kar aqkod) apYt, tlrs [1J] M3. BRACitt. Ys. BrtS Bar. 7t,a.k [1S] PYilO Monk wr mwt+{ tk.k B.ek ..a. Y tkq [16] to9. [161 Ad sas tr wod'sesaiaBR [17] THE DEPONENT: I N...'t Wrd tbat. It (17] A W.Bk rw Y.Yd np4 1Yt [18] 8d.'t - wkk s.t - wki m7 rmaci6 [18] Vktar DeHOhY eLi.ei tYl, k.t 1 Ya.. .e hRiuO N (19] BY M8. BRACRfl.: (19] t.uwledp d tY1t. ~ [20] Q Ad tom ka.n't Yeud that k aocmed [20] Q WYat dd YM ker tYt Vk1er D.HohY ~ [21] wkk otn.a eke'.t [21] daiwed ia tkst .aprat N [23] A No. I ka.e .ot. [22] A 11.t Ir dNar tYt Tkft Maa~is rtM ~ ~ [29] 0 Did to" ever kear a.7o.e eossp4ia tLt (231 Y. M wkYdnw p.pr tYn he W almmktei. Y b [7A] PYfkp Matrk wu seandos tkei wak i, wmY a (2a] tkat's wkat p..e... [2S] s.Mta.9e: by tYat. I we... e.M Y IY" Nda't W 127] Q dkw tW Wt, did t9. e.w kw .qo..
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Pa`e 201 MR. WEIL: I.naew p objectiu.. [3] A I w a.l)' mperi whal I uid befae, [4] ti.t aN ot tYae tMnp, ezeept tur wdaM pin od i.neafed appetite, .ue dn.CaW{s of Yabits In seaad. BY MS. BRACHPL: 0 But aro )uu aware of an7 habit, like au7 bklns, 70• Wd, W.t wYen a Pruoe .eop. it, etr) {o tBroftY ail d these dungq, u6x than dmtlae7 MR. WEIL: 8os ublectbu. THE DEPONENT: I wdl aq PRe .ot aww of u0 Mtin{ prududng wei{ht pi.. MS. BRACNTL: Thuk you. MR. MeDONNELL: CmMwl• we're a13:30. We Jodd, PaYap, pu off the mcmd atl dedde wiat we're {IXeg to do. MS. BRACHPL: LePS do W.L (DYrn.in. urt the ,eraa.) (Bw.k) Pap 203 (OULLO7TA EXHIBITS 7 tYmu{Y 36 wws .urked.) the dow.e.t tlat w. .artcd a GaButh Ea11ihR 3, GWbtta 3 ae the bads Wt I ideaGfieU before, wMd i that it wa. Y.d.ene.tly produced ..d Y s.h[ect to a cW" of work ploduct pateotb.. MS. BRACHTL.• My Nues,aa Y 1Yt wa are a0jouniP< for the day at the wiuerY rsQunL wMcY we're wBtly to accommodate. We Yan eo.erod a lul of puc.d today. PiaiaNs w01 take a look - it was.Y .q iarat b co.ci.de today. We Mn wrerod a lot ot po..d. We wYl We a bet at what famaW.{ qmt6u we Yad rd a•ab a aew.i..Bos ud Iat dd..a..Cs eo.nd k.nw wYeder we do, i.deed, .eea m h.i.0 1Y doitw h.ck. MR. McDONNELL: I.ppaciab Out. TYuk yo.. TYSat yo.. A.d fcrtler IYis depu.ea sakY .nt. (Co.doded at 4:LL4 p..J Page 202 MR. WEIL: AR .IaM. Ltl ne j.t nW tWt da.i.{ the hwak what wa 8d wr cn.a.N tnr the p4iatWs Ya.ded Y a package el dua.ea authored a aa Itut appp.rtuly aaia.ed by Mr. O.Part., Dr. Ge0nlta, aGLr eal.ey by Yr ar i Pur by Yi.. We Ya.e faien the 10 ar 15 aJ.au 8rft tlIe break m ra.iew One doq.eMS, Wa•n auw mautel t4., ud I wYl .nt ide.til7 eacr of tYew i.diridu.ly. I w,7 r.pl7 MT we Yan rrted tlN. EzYtUs 7 tYrougY 36 for pmpa.ea of Dr. OdletY's depodtln.. AW PYBIP Manis Is prepared ad deas Yueb7 vipalate su Iic awae.tk" of E.Y1i. 7 tWeu2Y 30. Atl rarier tiu take the tlate b rke eopitd aew. nbe! M aYtdpte wil Yapqe b M1e mwt reporter wN nate eaPYs of ELWib 7 tW$Y 36, ..d they w01 be d1m.i..fM aln.g with IYa traMnipt of lii deposi0o.: Y that aaepWM7 M8. BRACHTL: Ye'. Ti..t )u.. MR. WE1L: Heo fMy an. MR• McDONNELL: Ad ws am goin{ b. I tM.t, eoMWdn the er..i.Ybn of Dr. OaBwa, todq's ww.tkn at Dr. OaoO., s.d I tl:.t euawJ waab bmaYe a Malamert aa the facmd. I wadd raqaest /w.atly, the rts•. W P.p 204 [ 1] 7URAT [2] 1, PRANK OULLOTPA, PM.D., do [31 eNtify that I Yn rrd W f,wqoig tu..oript af (41 a.7 teW.oy, Wun a. Bepa.be.4, 1997, ar rn [5] tipned R,.blem M ue totuwtn{ aaqa: LINE CORRECI7GN Pr.at Odbu.• PY.D. Date: Swnt a.d ssEa+iwd to 6ebn .e on ti4_day M 1997. NOTARY PUBLIC V G
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Page 185 j \] 9`( MS. BRACHTI: [21 Q Do tun k.odt [3] A I do.'t t.ow 1 saei rtuNee wete e.ee [ 4] madnUed. 151 Q Look .ow at IM1n .rrt duco.ea w<Ye [61 w.raed E:Eibit 5. [7] A A,e we dn.e wkY tik uaet [ 8] MS. BRACH7U We ua. 9 [ ] [10] (GULLOTPA E%HIBTT NO. S was .ueked.) [11] [121 BY MS. BRACHTL: 1131 Q Hane 7aa wea this doa.aa Lefwet [14] A Yea, I Iu". [1s1 Q A.d it b u u.ad repowt datnd luae 30, [16] 1979? [173 A '11rt's cnrtecl. [18] Q Did lam pepaa it? [191 A A Q IwuoeeuftMaotWn. Okay. Wu k put of 1ar .m.d [21] hudx. mA{ioanbis+w tn poep.re these ae.ud [221 repwnt [231 A Poe snr 9miod et tksa, k wu. [2.1 Q A.d tia wa; tmt wYea to waeet [251 A I believe wa produced uaaai reports Pafe 187 [1] 0 Okay. Niuotl.e i.QUta Yeuc nte; [ 2] wtrcett [ 3] A 7fat's mrtaet. [ 4] 0 Aad the greatee the awoaat W s{eatlas [ SJ iaecstcd bt the bod), the jreatce the keaR rate [61 leaeue: ewractt I'I1 A WeB, fkat, Iet's maka this clear, tY.t [ e] 1 tid.k weh wkk aiood.e, I worked wkY dpnlW [ 91 tUt brA 7M71+8 Wek ot sicatis. Aad tYen wo [to] wan caaJe rnrBo.Jip nettneea aimnae ee8.a9 [11] level a.d Iwrt Iab. [121 Q Did yna baN uytW( b du wkk the [13] lea.ed Yelpkuw rtrBp tYt wete duea a [14] Philip Mwds? [15) A No, I dide'L [16] 0 Do taa udnqaad wYat the leaned [17] Yelpleraen hypothesis it? [ia] A I r.o wr ..aww.arq ar er [191 w"dign 1201 Q coew poa eaptrik k. [21] A You ua ataetriMB " a wWYa back, 6et P1 1 toa Bi.e - if 7ua tet aQ a eUalsqaa<a wYUa a [271 puloa k p.ea a probksa to Iohe tYas k [24] iuot.w4, Ioa WiN set a aoastb. tYat t4y wil I[tJ] eut be ab4 to eohe wbleqoeetry suhabb pmblsar. Page 186 betwes. - weM, d..iq q a.t at !\ilir Mo..: betwetss 1977 a.d .pp,ao.ata/y 1906 a Y7. Q Oaa1. A.a w k w 7.ur utpo..lYk9 la that Yta" YPmpn a.Yal nywyt A D.r.lvtletlslwrf.Dr.Dme'e pG11Q, n ICmpOeWAk) M plEpefe pal{ aI Y aarl tepo.t lw taal putWiv pu]eet, W pm b wVei I was i..al.ed. A/ter I beea.e po[rt leaderr tYr it wu .n suk mlpor3i" to papare the aarW te9nrt. [IIl Q Okq. Tak p.nid.e uwl mlvt, dY [121 7w 9reWe k or pan of kt [13] [u] A Q I ptaparad aprt af k. Okay. WYicY pR dfd tun ptpnst 1151 A I ppepeJ paes r!yn 17 tYuyY 28. [1a] Q Was Ika iafewrettaa ie !ap 17 NmyY 1171 20 mnect so M r 7em taaw wM. Iaa pqred kt [78] A IwudiYa.abpYacksidnaik. 1191 Q Wd, diayom nriwk4atdekwr [201 EaeBudt [z11 [tt) A Q I paba64 dti Okay. A.i Nd yaa - wae k aortett wYe= [231 taa reviewed kt [2+1 A I wuW ar.aa k waa aertaet at W [251 tLr. P.Be 188 [I] O Ia rhes .adl, tYet tens r 4e [ 21 be4fer: mlroat [3[ A 7Yr .ea the t«.+o1op, mnw. ( 4) Q Ad taY sar nrk k faad ww taa [!1 sabwR aNauk. aafwq, b Mcs: anaat Ilr [51 esa.pb, .aea a iuB is ab]maa sa a pifal .eW [71 tYet Ye ma't a.oY, Ye w81 ent be aMe 1u lens t. 181 avoid faat so.N latar, aanst [9] MR. McDONNFJI.: Objectb.. P6a.dsYea. [IB] THE DEPONEKI': Y« sel up a kypWYStln1 [11] skaatiu.. I beJiese Oeea ara data that 6ear r [13] Wt: .kboa84, ra aot hla8ier wUY tkat [13] Bte..ts. Bee the arLl tHaS k Oes kIe. [14] Bi.a tbe aai.Y a 9siafal snaai,tYt ts asiwniie6M,, -Ovo~' 8. BRACIRL: lWt )w. I MM r ep ua4 THE DErONFJli: YaeY, I hnw, kh e .oWfaL BY M8. BRACRR: Q W W dW:wM s.ok.e w`n yhaa kaned-wen wnlauei r the Woed reqWusa paeaNpa, it wn IanW lial wbm sub]eeW r •rarhl .aparieeew, W9 an .ma 9by n taB tYU us mtus .b aae .ot depi.ed: k the N ~ I
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Palc 161 P.ac 162 ( 1] e.eqtl:ea lw dn be rm.twd.a. bac.a.e ]o. do e, [ 1] ezl.i. Jw wq I feJ w. [ 2] a bn as you du It wlitio..litt [2] MS. BRAOiiL: Otay. [3] A Yo. mold ut thal. (3] THE DEPONENT: I bWe.e the imti.e Y [ 4] 0 Okay. Yoa .{rte that ciprdte tnoke (41 a aemuq. Mt ect a.fficieat ttiqfa t.r [ 5] mwim m.npuvnds, nme a( whicY are active is the [S] auiwimna ..ntiq bsYa.fur. [6] ceMral aeno:r apftwt [6] BY MS. BRACML: [7] A Ym. I ajme ro tWt [ 7] 0 71a.k taa Yuatie Ma:d PYliy MonY [fl] Q AM do tua pa tiat the wwt 9oM.t of [ 6] nwrciam re the ta. •i.p.ePt [ 9] these eonpousd: w6icY aro Ktire la the ceattal [9] A Yd, I luve. [101 .er.wt ayrtems is .icotiaet [101 0 Do tea aaJetiaad 1Y.a ewa• b Ya.e as [11] A 71aPa pretwbly the ute. [11] u( ewo .euinpt (121 0 Do )ma ehiat R't fak to ut - 112] MR. MeDONNELL: Objectiaa. Oae uf two [131 withdraw. (131 meaatupt [441 Have ta over w{iokcd to utoae that [14] M8. BRAC31'P{,: Okay. Let ar nrk tYa. [111 tobacco producb wilY aa or too low a Inel of [1S] BY MS BRACRPIe [16] aimtiae woWd 9eobabq laR (e tmt utW w [16] Q le 0 Ine the .o.u - i it tar [1T] .uner wYat limir tnb wat [17] aedmw.dlq 1Ya eve, uuneYw, r 0e es [i8] MR. WEIL: Or walb to IYat eKatt (18] "Mpaet• b rcl.r 60 the Left at the brk et the [19] M6. BRAC}fii: Yq. 71aat yu. [19( fY:oat 14t aae f,cN Twam ..otl.o a dPeWSt [20] THE DEPONENT. I believe I Lave made [201 A Yn, I Ya.a. [21] Wtewe.4 to that effect. [11] Q AB 1i{M. Ds 7aa eYe mdt.kaW (21] BY Md. BRACHTL: (22] tYt tem to weae the pYt:olagiral alfeca tYa [73] Q Do taa belkre that .ewt [x3] rnuRt Gome iaenryoa u/ :mtiae at reoeQta. [M] MR. WEIL: Objedioa. [24] dtes i. tie ina [2S] THE DEPONENT: I think I waaid 4ee to [2.t] A I Ye.a reqai.oplly ae.er 4ard aqbed* Page 163 PaP 164 [Il at t'M'Bp MartY dacrRu i.9wt Is fiat faYto.. [ 1( Ma Wt ro0eet W., Do fa tww wb pre9uM ( 2] 0 Ha.e tea e.er aadetaced eqn.e w.n. (x] tYme da..wLLt atrie ua. [3] tna Yeud re Wo tda,'MpacP to ncu it eLt wqt ( 3] We'R Wkiq Wcve ducerats tW tw [4] MR. MeDONNELI: Yna .y. - a+e Joa [4] Yan toee that eorteWe rmN.e Wel wW 9.od.:! ( S] Ymitiag tar yaatinn to PYitip MonOt (5) axepubilq: do tea t.ow wb pepamd :Yuae [ 6] M5. BRACHIL: Yes, I u. [6] duwMeMa ( 7] MR. McDONNELL: Ye. dida't say p, tYatY [ 7] MR. MeDONNELL• 1]rt di.k Y.YMetet [ 8] wY1 P- nldq. [!] the arwm Ye Pw n fuar 9aertka wia. 7w MT ie [9] M$. BRACH71.: 71a.t yoa [ 91 mrteita eimti.e lo.el wYY 9.ad.R atmpab9iy [10] THE DEPONENT: 71s o.y wq I 4ta heard [10] 1 tWk Ye P« 7w an arww tYt iW.Y aoapt tYat [11] aqbodt refer to - aqbody wYHa the i.OeWt wb [11] yrc.ite, aed I dna't waa M. b ideYift the .aYer px] Y...q mwledge of Y refs to ip.ct i~ ~ [11] of a ao~..aa the r 6ua't Ide.uft. [13] a~atiw fek is the back of the throat apo. /° [13] BY MS BRAQiPL: [141 i.Y.Y.~. .ad tFaY tMe ael~ na..y it1 rolemd td/ 1141 0 WY> uads the - wYa pepuM the doat_tat [7S] i the i.dopq. (]J( or duwa.ew that Yow that peopU prMw d(uettr [16] BY MS. BRACH71: [16] tYU ia" the auurt et aimtian that they re red [17] 0 Ha.e toa ever amm aq doe..et jewalnd [17] b t.oWgt [18] bt fo.ees at PYiq Mar4 ee lor lY:Yp MartY tYtt [1BJ A I dca't tsw if I rf..h rw a O [19] caneWp .4btl.n b.el Ia ciprettes with poduct [19] dew.eat, E.t P.a Yeaa b qrerubr YYae Wt ~ [2n1 .oxp,eautt [20] .wt..er w eee..ad.. [xq A i 4ee - Ls bees to peseMat oa ia [21] 0 Okay. .na .aae the .r..a.e.v N (221 the Plodut E.alartia. DL4b., Eat wYat they [22( A I tYa: R wr a - 9eulk Y t1,a P/ed.et ~ ~ [23] P•enBt dw is riat penP4 pnter W level of [23] EreWUto. Di.YMa ~ [2A] dontiae that 11e7 .w.auy wote. ]x41 Q Do te" maR .\ut ['15] 0 We're Idti.g aboa dneamew Uat 7oaYa [1J] A It w.s probably MeYra
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Page 177 rap 178 [ 11 BY MS. BRAl7iTL: ( 1] prepared, boar I Y b.0ew IYoCe o4.rt. b I (21 Q Dr. GWbtta, do 3ou k.uw wtrs the (2] woWd IRe Yue 1. -- ti.t W Yt Y. rwr (3] doeewe+t that yor cuanrA prepared was prepared? ( 31 what Y YY e.de.f.ebq at the P.P.ee /er wi4i it [ Il A I wodd - Il .u du:6q q 9eriod d [4l i 91eP.ed• [S] tiun at Cobpro oa a Vip Mek. i'm aut paitel3 [S1 MR. WEBS 1 ebjeel le tYt q.eriun a. [ 61 ave wYea ti.t w... It was ppob.bly 1994 ur [61 the Lu: d l.ek d ta.edWo. a.d taW fer a [ 71 were.uouu. 1'/l VocaVti.e reqwre. [ 81 Q Do you keow the pu:Pew - what was )o9r [8] MR. McDOHNELL• Atl P. ].B - I.q., [ 9) aadeiuaadiN of the purpose for .hirtl it .au 191 tYtt Y e daYUb us.. fl'. deYCYe 4f .e Y [10] prepared? (1o] we8 u etYrs, r. .ot ping a teke a cY..ce c. [11] MR. McDONNEI.L: No, P. - I w01 1111 vairiq a pirile8e which hdoe0le Pkiip ManY. [t2j irNr.t 7oe eut to aaswer that qaeKia., (12] A.d i[ R'f Ytl.ataly date.a.ed tYt Dr. GeBulta [131 Dr. Oullotta. IPf a wurk plodlxt ci.i., 9.'f a [13] WuW arwer tWr yeeMiur a.d Y tbali arwr [It] Ywlelt e4i.. If you w.a tn tset tYat, there are [M] qaetinn Wad ty, ae 6e iL Bt ro eel Bnf.B b [151 appropriate ways to tcat it. I do.'t ttd.k tie tidt [17] do it today. [16] wa) tu trn it Y by petting qaeYWr to him which [16] Mi BRAQHIL eo you an dleeti.g Y. [17] rey ruuit in wt d as tud.ea<r 6aw tur [171 .nt to erweri (181 ar8Wn8 that it Y o.e thia8 or a.ctSer. [a8] MR. MaDONNELL: i am dietetq Mn eut tu [19] M8. BRAOHrL: Coerel, I eade.Aaad 7uer [19] erwer. [201 Positioa that he should eat be yurtted to tptlry [201 BY MB. BRACN7L: [Yl] seet the cu.teats d the aoce.ea. [21) Q okay. wkP as.4 pu t.s the Jnw.,d [22] ' MR. MeDONNE[L: DbYek. [3I1 a.er. [23] MS. BRACHR: I woa411Be yue to [23] Do you l.ow wlMier aWr tobama (2s] remeddex yow dhelf6n to W eut to arwr ae b [1A] prp.ia in tYe'JiBs ww pr9w.(.B EEO n...rt a [251 W.uientanNnj of the putpute /w w6ick tt was [2J] the aflew d tw~ PaBe 179 Pap 180 [ II A I believe I'.e read published repolb [ 1] (I'Ya tallow[q qaeMbn wr tad: ( 2] aboat that, I do. [ 21 `QUESTION: Uid pw d. Ldiet R ( 31 Q A.d wkat wu 3aer aadetwedto8 - wBe [ 3] PYBtp Mu111t Wt tYo.ed that depiroi [.1 ere. 1.] ..wae e.hiMtr +..eau sn the [5] What other eoepaaia did you -r+•^t•r+ 151 a.ply.de of the N2 peak d the PREPY) [ 6] wero docq EEG rercarcYt 16] ['7J A Let .e d.cify Ws, r'aa Either they [ 71 THE DEPONENic I 48ew that we did Il.d (a] wero doiq ic or tYey wete h.dieg Y. [ 8[ tY.t en em:o.. (9] Q Ok, tYOk you. [9] BY ME. BRAdRL• (10I A I eu't mN wMel. (10] Q Atl wr it the m tYt aYes dephed (11] 0 Okay. i/YA ta.pa.iml [ll) t.otp. mu.d f.nMYK, ri. a.pWede 41001111626 (12] A In the 7p, I beYeve it waa [12[ nt.qudt (131 BtY4Y Anatwa Tdiacco. [131 A '17atV y wmllxQea. [14] Q Did >4s a.« Iwm the rc..rs d wur [1q Q You te.ww ..nr. ur le" alw..rr [15] research? [IS1 riaa wr a Pt We.e) iaere twn smuki.g; daMt [161 A I trad a6oat 6e mmkt that they [161 A TYt4 aoneR [i7) pubBdad. [17] Q Did p. - [181 Q WYeGe did }oa teaA Wtt [78] MR. M9DGHNEIL Ca.rd,-f tWk }aa ne N O 1191 A It was eYier r a]oreal or rroceedinV [19] R+dini fromm the documed thed weti jug Wcar W [201 fium a qvpodua [70] aoe.enNlos eheet. Ad I weW at" r a rtfr d r [211 Q Did )ou do 6adies at PkiNp Mwtia that 121] mmtra), tlat 8iw aar tYim aal 81roa the N [231 showed that depri.ed t.otrn eahbitad deaeer i. [22] feta.en rs r4 H.! Y w ieiwbr/y, U1 [23] the a.9Rtade d t4 N2 pe.k d the PREP! (24] ymdaced, tW 3au tl r it r alai.r Pr.But. ~ N [2A] MR. McDONNELL: Could wa ka.e tYal (2I] lor Iww waaatlee. R re.a b.a tYtt Y p.a w (25] tueaat [N] wil8ea 10 .ooep a. tAe 1.ae .d.e .f dd. u.e
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Pa'e 189 P.ya 190 elmt [ 1] 0 WoaN p.T MR. WEIL: Objectio.. Lack d (1] A Iwt .c s.a. I tki.k M k at u.iw:ry au' du. SPocdari.e. [ 3] Hospital, la.dna, he I wo.4 wer b tka A I do.'t ro.raber tbe nxped.rt.1. at (41 0 WN, kava Pa. Yari LLat aq d .N. I wu aat i..ul.ed v auy d tiaR Philip Martk' toapetYou suwfrfa.ei tYir BY MS. BRACIl11: [61 d8ueueaiarcYaLtWabarYienaMf 0 Okay. AB ri`M. Did " e.ea 4aw that (71 :moae tv rWo wkY Y.kn low ur, <ipMtot u7 of Philip Morn' competitnn engioeertd thee [BI MR. McDONNEL4: CnarU, jut w tke ooowndal dpmttas ia such a fa.ybn that high [91 .emd ia dear' you a.kei tYat .bot oa.a.ntid dpoti.e, low nr ntlos were aohimedt (101 oitueua beion. I tH.k Dr. OaWtta r.yo.ded i. MR. MeDONNEW Objactio.. Vague. High [111 tawt of e"i.eaW apmtu.. Aad I]ust iu.t :mtiae, low tar ntiat. [11] waa the Rmtd b $el mdod. A I have keud that axpar4neaW cigarettes [131 MS. BRACNR.: Tkut yaa, rm rkiad a were poduced tkat had .kered tar .Imtlne ratios. [141 tY d a d/fe.cs q.mtbm aew. BY MS. BRACH'I'L: US] MR. McDONNEI.L: I ayoinpm. Q W Wt did you Ye.r .boot that? A If i nrall Prnp", wWt I teeaR k that Michael RmrJl frow E'njlud had mejertad that there - n.e should tq to, wkkta ranM .uimiu :cuNs oaaaa while tedude{ tar mYeat, a.d tkow wero the okco.Wa.caa wrroo.diag tkua kkadt of e:peri.eau. Q rm wrtt, I dida't Mar 7or wkoY .a.wer. Did yau fq who Michael Ruoek k wkk7 A No, I didn't, wu'u. Pqe 191 BY MS. BRACHTL: O AM h q.wtiss ia wketkar you 9wi a.J of PYuip Matk' auwpeWa., is a..aoBf a.aWbY dputtr a.daqaM thk podrf, i atl a fnYin. Y M roie a kiai inHr tr rWo is a low qr dpnte.T A Ne, r'.w, I do.'t beka.a P.d kari .qlkr{ .m.t trr. Q Did PWip Mauk make aq dwctW that had Yiek daotiae tr rob r a bw tv lnelt Pa{e 192 I 1] r, taBcta{ abai botk - I'm todedieg aomoewid [1] Qallat. s. [ 2] a.d a:perimeaW. [21 [31 MR. WEIL: Objectba. Vape ..d (3) (OU13.O'ITA EXHIBIT NO. f wr arrluL) 141 -bt[ma• [9 [51 A Ak I taow, it tk"n e) nada axpa.' a'•' w IS] BY MS. BRAf3lIL: (61 ~ cigarettes at t.uiMl tu/Ymtiae tatkr. rvs [6] Q Haw )ce s.a tW da.rat bdwe, k's [71 .e.c.lwArd of aqa 9aw.at4dJ dpraaa .kk .kam I'Il r Aepn 1949 aa.ad rqat wkk yo.r r.e as it} [8[ tv .kotc.e ntin.. [s1 A Ye;IYq. [9] BY MS. BRACHTL: [9] Q Okay. Di1 ya, arH ia witi.t k- [10j O Aad tlaa expaMraY dptwtr, .Ws [101 fbikt ON. [11] were they wadet [11] Did pr w/ita for d k7 (121 A rd Yars 1o mwa at vatiuus ti.a p=1 A Ya.,Iii. [13] ILoughoat the ti.o that I waa - have 6eea with the (13] O Wka prt iii pu weket [141 canp.q. For.atko pmpma. [14] A Oty. i wwt. - wilkoM boki.g tt k, (1s] Q Did they 9ava a.waT (13] ]rt botiy at tu. T.bla of Carwa, k.pyar. I pb] A i dua't tkiak to. 1161 wmteaploPapL. 1171 Q ire. tu ea la bswoka9 Wate they 1171 0 Ok A.dWy..wA.Rrpttd [18] A j p p They were culaidy, teated u iaerW [181 y. yo.r .omd aw..s wqo..'YBinsr N O ' ~ [19] Pa.eY• [i91 A TW'aaw..at. (L1 [201 Q Were they ao..eRi.ky tlMiWodt N Q AY ws the Yfawab. Y tb tt}wt H [a11 A To .y lmwbdp. .erm, ao. [211 that you nc.kted camd .kea 7e...n.kt.s kf N Fr [221 Q Ts6 .arketed, weto they ereYt [=] A iwoaYarrtkttkwo.Ybe. ~ ~ (231 A To .7 kwwkd{e, .o.s of tkox dprotts [231 Q DY yo. a..r nh.i aqliin b aq ~ [H1 have OICr jW0 tYloCo tpt MalkC/. [ 24 1 a...4 mport that you did.Y eieek b tee Y k wY M MS. BRAf7i17s Tha.k lo.. Look .ow at p ~ l-'~ aanaR Ikt7
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Pele 181 Palle 182 [ 1] k'a te.dve,teatl9 p.oduMd. [ 11 BY MS. BRACHi1: [ 21 MS. BRACJiPia Well, the que.tlon that [ 2] Q Your .ue iuY a, it, 6.t do }n. renR 13] Pw eukin{ ere b.ued oe Ltar.etiom teBeCed wher [ 3] teeiq fYf [ 4] wkera in the documew that ke.e bee. Froft" They 14] A Yp, I raeJ teW.3 tY Joaw..et. I [ 5] aro aot ke9ed Y to Wi. FvNtulat .cpu.[, 1# q [5] ke.e e.ape mwBrdb d 14 [ 6] k,.awratea eutu .re w tw 9ertic.l.r repdt. Su [6J Q Ar this rem.a F.r in arebiq [ 7] it jmt t.ves time if I asked based em my Y.edwnitta [7] r.ukin3 dW3 s.dy, Dr. Der r)r., We ra i.fwaw.d [a1 .aee reWer tmn main{ WaqY eu the auw.r+t.. 181 1n ue aaeet r wwa ..okty nar.ier rieqd wY.. [ 9] But if that boahen y,w, I wu.'t do it. ARbesY, it [9] tiprcCe drirep eYned. We .m reeNe{ b Rea [10] .d{M take er e little boter. 'iLa'f W M=Y. [10] the eae.1 to wNd woe0r .eed pra.ed beY..im; [111 BY MS. BRACHTL: [11] do you tee tkett [12] 0 Okay. Did Joa evcr Yur Mr. Due. - Pom 112] A I ree tYa. [131 r"^7. Dr. Duam uu the ter. •.imtim .md`t (131 0 AW diA p me it betareT [14] A I du.Y know. [14] A I bq yur puda.t [15] 0 Okay. Do 7a keow whether Dt. Do.. [1!] Q Did 2ou tee it befine riight .ow todq7 [161 periDdikaill w. ~ reports a Projeet. that naro do.e [16] A i.Rpu.e 1 dH. / wr oopied a. - [l7] et P4iNp Mowit7 [17] Q Okay. [381 A He wrote eiem, I keow tkrt I wa eoqed [IB] A it 1 wn cupieb u. it [19] ue. [19] 0 Well, " waro.Y copied a k. [201 MS. BRAC}lI'L: Okay. Let :ee show )um a [10] A Well, tke. I.iSM .et Yaee. (21] dorn.e.t ..d uk Iou if 2o.tie teo, it before, We9 1211 0 WeO, do pw nnr Dr. D.r ww rfiq [22] mark it GWNtta 4. [22] that FYYF Mortb wY wnkiq M/M tYe mfere to [27] [?31 wMcr .lcalee .eee iw.era umt..ior4 [14] (GULLOTTA EXHIBIT NO. 4 wu w.rked) [24] A Pmme bekfy a tifs dncre:a, it qqerf [2S] [2S] 4M [t tq$ tiY wr wtiua. Iy F. L R3.., mYer Pqe 183 Pap 184 [ 1] Oo Dr. Dc... [1] nca .6o.t .irotW ...dt (2] 0 The dneu.e.t wo w:ittes by F. 7. Ried [21 MR. WEIL' Ce.W I ker tM Q.atNe [ 3] WYat .ukee )ou tki.k that? (3) epi.i [4] A It u7ri Rojea Titb• Swobei DVq [4] BY MS. BRAl7Ifls [ S] Study. writtea by F. l. Ryu. [31 0 WkY did yo...dqtlatl Mn to .er wW [6] Q Doee tket i.&atc to 7au tket tH. [ 6] 4 aed tls twr '.imtir rerf 17] little dantptia. wu wNtu by RJe.T [71 MR. MeDONNELL: Ob]eetia.. Fo..htle.. [8] A Ta[Y whet it weald .een to i.diute to [!] A ran Rui.{ b.eke r ewN MR [9] r. [ 9] aw.ptiu, .d tYt i tYa Mr. Rle. we.r trai.ed (10] Q WeY, it tYa•o the aw, do 3e. 110] bri..iaal p)Kiob3Lt, . he wr IY.kiq i. tpr [71] reeeJ - 4'r Dr. "7 [tl] uf .eed rn di.e rd e1Yr ct•.ra4s beYY rWtl [12] A it4 Mr. Ryo. [121 rn i.b(t. [131 Q Do 7u. roaR Mr. RIen enr rTiq tYa [131 BY ML BRACH'[L: (141 Ys was aeekiq to Md eet tie ertea b which [M] Q Did yaa mad.ula.i Yn b.r. tYt Y [13] drotis .eea tuYetr eeL.iorr [1JJ w.ree b i..Mitate ue .iouH.e atin oa., tre [16] MR. MeDONNELL: Ad 7o..re uking; .prt (161 6ive b wbT [19] frtr tW dow.eat4 Or .re 7ou okiq - pw )mt [17] A M7 rYr r.aoRaxbr .w tY.t do waq [18j eet deer. I reelly e..ot ele.r w what 3a..u [li] r tbnYt eba.t Y, Y my people N (19] nkiy. [19] eilYer ..eked Eal•r. they w..ted bstonke e 0 W [10] MS. BRAQii1: Wad, apert fm.: lYY [2U] dptelts at the tir .r they IMCtsi Y.aar'b:ri) ~ [2q m,•_••• [21] oM a rnr. t,,) [22] THE DEPONENT: I tMet I ban v.pe [221 O Wes der to B.d eet tYe atlrt ~ ~ [211 meehorin of Mm refenit{ to ttlnp in lkia ta.ho1w. [23) b wYe! .4vti.e rM pwr Mi.vioA W [2A] BY MS. BRAC[TT7.: [241 MR. McDONNELL: Objepio.. Foa.drtlo.. [25] Q Okay. Aad wka did 7o..ndeMand Y4m to [271
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Pye 158 PNdYca. ]11 0 7baak 7oa. 1. PREP - okay. Did yoa do [21 .aarca o. PREP wkerc dmti.e" was added to [31 eiga.eue, both r. -..e.- ue wo<w was added [e1 bo6natue-ftr176tlW. 1s] Did yoa do research en the eNeas us [61 ]ateM.y tlkW KOOSe iY added to a C1{alelt9 Y a [7] bue as opposed to as u acid? A 1.ewY we did oae wcY aludy, tortect. [e] [9] Q Aad Ad yoa fud that wkea aieuti.e was added u a hue, R Pmdaced 4teleq devn.u tYat [BO1 [111 wcee appaxixuldJ daoNe the Woaq deaeua that [121 wua ackie.ed wkea aicotlac wu added as au addT [131 A Wcl, I uaY tutify m tYe wa{eitude [141 witYo.t aedq tYn doceweat, bat I 1Yiak tkat the b.m produced a decreala af peater w.8nitude t\an [ts] [l6] the a.id. 7u. pl[ Q Do you da.e uy .edertutiy ot wk1 Wt woutd be? A At uae tis•e i tko.(Yt i kad .Y ••"-r+.:aft ut tkat, bat ahar speatis8 wttl. .arbu' bbba{ks od pYldchn, it Y.u kqer elear to .o wYy it .WUId be that wq Wes, Wes tkn il a se.wq ouapc.eet to Wt Pt latcn.~ t6Ht. Paie 159 aqtWB to au.kk ue nua artle8 m u.paauts ue .f.rouae: MR. WEIL: Ob]edn. MR. MeDONNELL: Object[a.. Pa.. Vape. Have uYtkfq to do wil. MR. WEIL: Gllt for an espat apiaioa. A I a..ot tealy a pkpial de.Y, bt - aed I doet reall tie data Be. Wt at.dy, bu it I re.ew6er, ve wero .ot I. that pudl in the nn{e wYae we wnald Ya.e .op.otei.ated the deoN.s nelewle. BY MS. BRAQPIL: Q We.ld ]ae - Yyuf were is tM eop (t3] wkue tke .imlt.e .ulewle wen .apmtduted, wodd [u1 that nne a greater WesY decuae tk.. V the eiooafae .elaale wera P.alei.mar [ta] [161 MR. McDONNELL: Aro yu, akiag wilY [171 respect to IYis Ipedftc lMdy or - MS. BRACNTL: Pw just aating fn ae.enl. [te] [19] MR. McDONNELL: - u a a..tter of geaaal a<vatl8c k.owledgo! A [l11 MR. WEIL: I objeet a.1M M1asi1 ot au (Z31 espat qido. Wa .at pdtuea as a. upeet [z!1 wilaul. It's o inppopt~We qeutio.. [u1 Q 9e.v~ ue.pos[ r tl.aT A Pt Ipe.q ds.ew. Q Okay. \Yka JL foa Uiak .u the Ieap. IOf tklA d11aM1.[e YNON ]Ul IaYe/ b alYf PtoWet A I baYe.e i that PutiWr atad,, akYoryk, siate 1 do.Y ka.e the st.dy i/w.t uf .e, I e,aY swav to it, I 6oqlt it Y.d u b.YY dUfertatW abwpbft uts.. Q te o6er worA, 7" Ho.µl tkat W base wu abwbed saowe .vad9) 1Ys ps tke a[Yi A That's .Yt I tiaeght at tYe tl.e. Q Ad do yee ae loager tWk tLCY IieYt nr do Poa sol knal A Wed, buad .pam whwper seueY, wMcY dlh4 rqllinM this reossfoic, W brei, all0. Won da.rinu wY" pkpioM{Yft ad halop.t..ko mu r-... aeanmed 1!e .ufue aea of the iaq a bd.g eq.f.Yea r a te.i ma, they a..M ar t4 aq wmpound uu .u YiWBy add or brs wcYd 6e q.kkly .eW Weei wYem it teariei tb udr oi tb laq. A.i n Ha aMwptlon wotld .et be SYfametY. Q Quld do 6et Wt .iowf.a addad r a boe produced a Faats YteacP deaaue have eadyS 9:r a PY/dul tY.Y. Bat ase.iq r tYe., in tYe aiCOwu i.a rr oiu asa, nq do.Y lee Yow tW mdi k.ppr. 9Lr eo.Y re b. Y eoYd k.pp.m e., fu e...Ple, tb .H" ef tM s or - bet they io.t ua Yow it er Yppes i the l.faca a/ Ua 1..& BY MS. BRACiRL• Q Ya. apw uat aimti.a 4 nad A IIwi1W 1e1. W<u.ditlo., l va.li a(IN aY 1W. Q Wedd Iw apas tYa dpnMS wootia{ Y noobfcke A By iM.Yin., r'aa Q Why by aetr+ea. I erk .aad,lar ya.r am.ar1 A A teedoaru te r eapui.erd p"ckoloBYt Y a.P weu .Yid i.aeme tb pmhatiLLP ef a ntp.r tW Mwerr it. 71aee - I k.e. Yh eka.Yr, kat WtY lr .q It i. 9.oe peoqa !e s•cke dpunr, tYey .s be medure.s. [25] Q U.dee t V t ddidt6.. .odd.'t THE DEPONENT: 7VS Y a qoekb., N I I womm apr riu for w.e s{rorles aed ~ InG I~') S
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P.{e 193 PaBe 1" [1l A I aould nr t4.t I ~ t4ea dL I tl 11] 6,e I pob.* ,aaioced ~oa.e .o.e tio c6an. ( 2) [3] Q Aad 7wt ae.a sabaflted n.s, dd yo., [ 3] 14 [A thatww'tcartd,atara}o•kno.t A I wuld aa.a aub.R auytLiu( that I [ 41 [n [b] tYo M ws i.acmate [61 . % [7] Q b tY4lo.etYte{ 1ha1 Va teat to lu. i. [71 [81 INB[PO, a aopy uf1 (8) 191 A lpaoeryaTtiatif IwaWa4BadR [91 1101 iW my rcmr6 at INBIFO, 1waa1d Y..e requeYed it, [ia] [111 la. [111 1121 0 Okay. Do loa Ya.e .a7 audewCaadhq a [121 1 k P d t' W i Y t h thY'AtW W [131 [ 3] ,o mp i u. o w 7 ae7 or uc ue, [141 utLer t6u as Io.Ye a6ead) tepiRedl [1.] 1151 A TYat wdd be (or tYe roaaa I Matllfed 11s] [163 to earYa. [161 [17] Q 9Saes a AhisibotW. YC Yue; ae aq 1171 [1a] of tYea people 4qeM 1181 1191 A I du.'t tYak so, au'aw. [191 lml 0 Did ul u( tYs wtt tyt lua did iadkale [201 [21] tYat alcutlae iY rocabaW [21] [22] A I did.Y study roeNarcetaa, per a. I [221 [23] .a) 4.e fpocWatad at n.e ti.e aboa raa.tacaaat, [231 [K1 bat I ae.a suidted k diectlP. [1a1 [ssl Q Wa lar tpecdatlo. tr.e .Icai.a ts [1J1 Pqe 195 ftt&fo~ A My qawYtio., W I pr it wu.M mwai. to a: dq. Y LLa nYY ap.n a Y...ay aimd.e, a deB.aed Y aipueue, 4 meafadq. MR. WEIL: Mer" a atrie a+ee.Y16.. BY MB. BRAl9I11e Q Did a.9 of faa rmaci 11.di.p aPPa< t4a .wAe - nyyort uat p.eatar A I-aaldpsv6abti.tafe9Y'w Y, Pa .ut w. I aWanlaad! Q Sa.. Yae. Ya.'.e tnlfiad tYa it ia Ioa a,prsW.doa Wt with ,aped b Yraa. aicuN.e, a deWaed fa ds.nNtr, it aadnui.& IoaYa nikd tiat 9oa yeedaio.. My qaatiu. 4 wYatbr aq of the raearck tYN laa did .pported H.tT MR. McDONNELL: A.i I ukjrR M tla t]OOk{Oa Ca /CYOa11C/ (IOa\Af, IPOCRCarJ N the daaCadatio. of W pia tesi.oq. MS. BRACMia Go aYead THB DEPONENT: I W.k un a.> a tw ccaN.., I.da sta.rrs a the dtat Brt, Y eW Paawaa Y.ppea r be wYtM 1. me.to.caaea, u.. M.., M.., Ma.. Ar, 4...,.., w4a i w.t 6.ck ad .ctwly looked at tYua Page 19e I ll [21 roWlodip' at a Yter dae, I fard .n wcY ..,.,oLbils. I ll 1=1 [31 BY MS. BRACKIL: [31 [ 4] Q WYea Y Y tYa yo..aat 6.ek ad 6oked" [ 41 at Wae relatbnMpt A Well, i. Cdope, I d{d a.u]ur st.d) lookiq at tYs abJacti." ad 9Y)dobttul .fta6 of dpalta a.otl.{. Ad I luutnd at the ,el.donHp bdwee. Pl latc.g aad IOIq ao.a. Ad wYat I turd wS that t)q w,e .ut atalWw/Y oondamd at W ao .y a.A1a tpewWWr tau.d n.ttobowmq. Q TSa teat - W tamtiq tht lu. did tYat Yowed ao rohtbrhip betwe. M late.q ad M'kG& tcorn at a rtatYtkal b.d. did Ja do Wt tept a. Yaaaat A La r mWiat. to 7oa Yu.-6aaa. this YtM6.wepandfpaRw.aadI.woatal0a stadta Ha I did. I wJd rocad a b.aY.a rc.por., I w.ld haw the i8.idrl aake a dprotte. I wWd rowd a pwtt.nEiq aspuae, od tYe.d/utia,Iwddbast4.Nua, basintll. a Barar E.IWL Atl He. I w.N ftathNraill, .nallaa the mtea pote.[A7. I wuld statlalulll aa.llrs We flaor b.Bot, ud tYe. I wWd do ceneY6ow eoe}1ldeas bawees evoked PdeaY Paa.alaa atl w6la.ti.a Pa..elaa Q Okay. 'M MW W whae loa tanYfM tYe Pt Waaa.Y deoaaa tiY BI'LB cw., br b. nay abJab did yom dn tYt cnrtaYdoai MR. McDONNBIL• OFJWN.. PaWina. A 7Ya wa a aWr WMAa .Yrs w.ai a aP Wd rraa - .M. w Lr.i tYity LtiadaY tl.. AYtaaat tira BY M& BRAOH7L: Q A.i....tY.r.s-dY1..btYsre ira air tlaat A Yea, un ais ffifaeal aoaioa Q Oky. AY tYe ~sWI wae w.iaa tWuaOMoat the uae In47 MR. McDOTiNE[.L: ObJaqir. Rs.. A Wi. I 6.t k.ow rwr w aawa Nat y.aKio.. laraa,wilNastaft Wwpt ' .a W wq /ip,ulaat dlaa4 .. .a.a .alaua, w,tiu4yly aO.wa.t affees aa a.a.aiaerr aad a1Mr Mtath wn .ut lai6ioB) rpYiaat. WRY aaaidaabN ieaaa of power aMm whe taDiq abnac a tatlYK yrow M tYYy wbjaaa an ai.e aataca< uea:o.a
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Pye 173 PsBt 1'/4 [1] BY M8. BRACHTL: ( 11 YfeY .oea8c Yen actFit7: wYeroM, ati..y.1a tad (21 Q Sme. I asked yoa eaain aWilut there [21] rn Proiuee lon roYaBe t.n acd.i3. [ 3] were .q EEG reapores that aimti.e Pmduced that [ 31 H^opY.rw+colo8~f. you aa do tYl, if you re [ 4] were d.ulrt m respuwes that you ue awun of M1o. [4) esdted, you Sca a Mvoltape Irt aeMq, Y f.w [ 5] readtc8 the i+e.aturo oe4a.ke produced by d'u{t, [5] am drows), 7e. 8a high .oYye tlu, aesiry. So ( 61 .•d I Lelie.e year teaa.oq was that tine wu .os. (6) ies a big Se.a.daatlo. 6eree. ( 7] Atl as to evoked pote.d.Y, )oer testimoq w.. Wel [7] MS BRACRI7.: TWic )aa Iwt .e iw you [ 8] tiere is.t Frterapue o. drap Lodudn8 e.oked [ 8] t6Y doca.rat. We7 .nt [ GWuUa 3. [91 Pote+tialr. [9] [10] So. .or, rm asking the hro.dmk qoeYlo. []01 (GUCS.07TA EXHiBIT HO, 3 wY rrked) (11] 1 eae 16ink of ia 164 arca, whkY 4: Did you lean [11] 1121 asythice le Iour reacarci et PhiBp Man's o" the [12] MS, BRAfH17.: T.Ye I look at i4 YM w [131 ef[eeu of .icotl.e oa the body wYwds tYuae etfeets [131 read era7 w.d, Y you wa.Y 140. t+t r tJ 7aa [14] am the nae as e/tew produced by 6opt [14] Nat r. Sct.B Y Wc }oa. r. si.PlY gu1.8 Y.ak [3J1 [13] yo., dtd you PreWe this atl wYy dY you pra9ro i4 [161 (Mr. SWub is Praseat.) (16] A.d tYen ro Soi.B ta pu to wr, pecBe ratrew. [t7] (17] Sc you o, raad Y all .ew or you can wdt ti I W 1181 A WeY, tlere is a 6terrtun u.[ tiee o. [181 a qaeub.. Or you e.r do wYaucwer you w4 (i9] the effects ef.atoas a8eeb o" the EE.G. A.d'[ (191 THE DEPONENT: rr f..BW oYY tW [20] teers that .arios claues of aeea4 hna their ow. [20] dusy.eat, 121] kind of aoique poflka as far as the qe.ntltati.e [21] BY MS. BRACHTL• [22] EEG that they aoduce. [221 0 Dta you Pre.prs itt 1231 lst r Ee a Wtle .esa specde. []31 A I doeY 6sBwa tYa1 I iL 1241 O TYeh loa. [24( Q Did )ou r ar Puw o.rw R7 [15] A Sedan.es, for eno9ie, tead tu Produae [251 A I tYi.k I Oid, pa. PaBo 175 Pya 1746 [ 1] Q Wb prepnd iT I 1] pmlecliu. I w81 rrt tlat PoJtton nr Wt [ 2] A Eame .e. [ 2] ar8u.e.1. A.d aa6 tYll rmol.d, Rn pi.8 b [ 3] MS. BRAG7Rt.: Do you wut to mafet! (31 iW+rt Yim act m..swer q.Kb...6o.t IL [ 4] MR. McDONNELL: Le[ aa euefa tor a [4] MS. BRAqIiL: N.e. (5] anmeeat. ( 5] MR. McDONNEIS.: I aplo{Ys hr tYi [63 [6] uflWrrba. [lt (BRak) [Tt MB. BRACF{7s Do you Vut b kep Y wt [ e] (81 af IYe meari4 [9] MR. MeDONNELL• I.puNB(n fv L4 [9] MR. MeDONNEIL !N, I 1Yit w4h [10] twmion as oo.nd's depositio.. 7b roe.o. that [10] Yappe.ed W Ya9p..ei. Yw awa r.surt R ad [11] Dr. Oulbua Yeskared is beraw this Y a donweat 1111 i.ehde R; is that 7or q.eub.9 I wu.ld peter [12] wHei I Prep" a.d I pepued am tYe Wi af (121 .ot b.nk Y.d i.deds Y. Eenr tYaa Psdb [131 finforamation ad aonen+tloa - idor.atloa l.otided [131 ib b.o.am..do. .on lnaif. [14] hy a.d on..ertatinr with Dr. Gdiata for [14] MS BRAGNII:: Why dr't w caW k (iS1 depnWb. - or fcr Ytlptbn in meaestia..kY [1J] PiYMt 3. We'11 rY that dce..ea w6 Wn irae [161 the Ytiptioa. I 6d.ot i.k.d to pablW it It [161 1, rpnhed, HoMk Wlt [37] W appneally 6na podueed. I LeYOn 8: wn [17] MR. MeDOMNELL: 8w. N [18] produced 1n pmr. I bo8s.e [•s w.erod by work (t8) M8. DRACiPIL• Cn..W, e.'3a nr .e O [19] prnduW. I tliak. PCrYfps, tYe W.p Wt wu u tYe [191 wYea the dxa.eat was Aqlued! W [20] other dou.ma was raPPereB to be aa tYY dornseaR [20] MR. MeDOt1NELL: I b.Y m.b r.ra6, f..~ 1211 But, in eq e.e.t, r. Sohq to i.W.a [21] E.1 I do.t iM.k R'a r eppapiab r af the N ~ [22] him aut to arwer question abua tt .atR ILe [221 de9ndtiuft t.a fv p. ` p.t q.rrinr r r. 17 ~ [2;] qaestWa of whether ¢•s Naavenee prod.alu. [2J] be happy b t.i b fq s6ot it aRer tYe iepnrfka }r (241 wa'ne. -1 aw.n )luu w.3 t.ke tls paYkm tYat i4 [2A1 Y o.er 1e IYc artea 1 Yn .req aWt Y. [25] iaad.erteat prodoctioa vaives work 1aodM (25]
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Page 197 Paae 198 [ tS BY M5. HRAC1iTf.c [1] Yappu. [ 2] 0 Page 3f. Mood .nle ud latee.few.. M1 [ 2] Q Okay. 71mw an .aaT reqnr Yre that [3] ts.t p,r .u.t ar someoae eie'd (3] 7- have deambed, Y.OaeBiy, tlndaea., .1e7 [ 1] A Let me f° to the besmums. ({] !^-+~~ , bod orrPlia maap., wsawaa (s] Q sum. [s] A owtt. [ e] A 7S.PS .7 wort. [6] 0 An Tnn awart et aq otM haY.h [ TJ 0 Okay. So Te a.e mood uale [ 71 wa:A, waaa ircmpted. Prodara aa a( ner aod [81 qutiomma+rcs b PeePb who q,dt ..ukiog; cwrcaT ( al caayee ..d Pyaule{io{ mtqosT [9] A That is my ieaaal remlkctiea ef this [9J MR. WEII.: Irt an the ww.d i dear, [l0] kudT witboi[ having mad it. [10] the Wt d beharior dvaawikln tlat y" jaR [11] 0 OkaT. AW yea iuuad hat quitlas wem 1111 md[ed, snr N tYee an Ies .a7 ipt ppiWs ef [12] eseeptb.dly tred, mere ititaMe tYU aem.l, had [12J tl.e, .eme of tYee rt fnr Io.aar peaioi af ti.e. (13] Yeep dist.rbaaoa, iasned faod co1uamptiu., wen [13J You u., I Oiak, me.tla8 a.iiadtq moai by [11] aenoas aad :rita6le; tihtT [1{J .irYUapeaid.{ the doommea i.re.d of madLB [151 A 71at4 ovnact [15J Rtaalb' tmm it. [16] Q Do you taow whNYOr there am etier [16J M3. BRACNIte fb.rd. I Wat tYat's a. [1'7[ w6meen tYat, when ete., ara .at atlewed to ne [17] imqoper abjerHu., .d I wedd appedat. Y Y Poa [181 lio., tYne mood a.d ySTsiobgical effep, ans (I8] would aut - Y Iaa wo.id ]rt object MlallT wilYat [19] reportedt [19] 9aeadaq m,tl;q the w•ra.. [20] A WeO. Y'.u, kt lae uT WI: This i (20] MR. WEIL• Pm apWT Jat etpYni.s [21] .aa .eepuriiT a rku.e<ewitli of a tobmsom (21] the dac.me.t : the a7 that makea i.ma dear b [22] It's the eh.ncteriLLrt of the latemi9nioa ot a (22] the j.7 wlN the daa..w aq.My aT., ntYw tY. [23] weWuoad 46R. So that it a penem wr [2t] wY.t Ioa'.e du.pairei i r spi.y. [24] rcstr.iaed hom biting 11eie.aul for a period cf [2a] MS. BRAQfIL• Yw um aafmr h prW.. [25J rlme, I wuuld expect a aomber of Bv.e s..e t\h,p to (2s] Txe QErOMBKr: Okay. Pm pi.g b heerk Paa 199 Pqe 200 [1] tAi ap i. to a ceupi nf paK.. 74e incrcued [ 11 BY MS. BRACNI7.: ( 2] weiht ain ud aypcNte sesr to be chusCniWe (2] Q Okay. de ya I em.eet i ttlatl.g tW. [ 3] to People atuppiq a.oti.8. 7Lt's wall dec.we.fed, ( 3J s. Toa ait Yn nia7. Tou an .r awn .f aq etYr [ I] lSeu efier tYWa, lins Aanja i mood aW [I] ha6R that, wiem i's wii8awa, pw0.na aY et the [ s] aitwa.e<s a.o,t, i av.ae~a+e of the [ s[ mood Ch..SeS aaa 9arlwosir aa.w dat yem a..a [ 6] itmupioa af a weLLlen.ed Ya6it. I+or eaample, (6J aro pwd.ced i.aekan wb am.'t allo.ei r.acte: [71 VToaP.tanti.almrudToetr.i.i[mper [71 itiatAyYtT [ e] the le.ar for food meaMeemea, aad at ar tNa w [ a] MR. WBR.: Objaedaa. Let at [ 9] .,w4a 3ow unp uat food roadaeo.eat. the ne [9] k..aato.. 3PewNln. [10] wBl show mu) of tYUe pY3doWSid ..d 6cYaviad [101 A W W Pan rTiaB i the d) IYq tY.t I [al] .egwreo that am tadiated ier.. [il] [aa.d, rd I Yaw ael pa hask ad mad f!i ia [121 BY MS. BRAC1iiL• [12] detai, p Pm [" brlag R apoa oarl, Wt wu [13] 0 7Lak 7n.. My qnwdog i a Wti 6it (13] dur.pahti of wmebo4 koppf.g s.okfq .u the [1s] dilfercet IW Uut. My qeeWoa i: Is tien au7 [1f] tueued foud aowptioa aaA weiit aiw (IS] oNer habit that Toa ass L.War wYY LLat, w4a [13] BY M6. BRACHTL: (161 it4 iMeenpted, poda. a3 of 8ese rmpoasas [16J Q I afdaYa.i wW 9aw an nfii I wem [17] that Ta. (uaad wYem s.ekus an depi.ed a( IYe (171 )pt to arw ah qmMNw [b.{r. Ye. JY tYi [18] abil{ry to uwYaT [18] nasartl aa4 Fee le..d Oaa Rte w.k dYfwaat O 1191 MR. WEfL: Objectiua. Lack uf (19] tYi.a [Let wew e.pri..ad by rekan wW they Q~ [20J feudrtio.. Spxoiti.e. [20J were.9 dowei b r.eta. My qaeMioa i.w9 w [21J A I do.'t k.ow i! I ws dmw W uf [21[ si.plr. An )aM aww uf aq Mbr YMt Wt.e N F~d (221 Oaa eespores is mo side +9&&oom. 6ouur tW9 (22[ beYafor tYa4 wiem tYa .pae i}m.wM tw, dui.t ~ [23J ue cY.mcteduic of so m.q diRerca tYloa. 8u I (23] it, produces d ut tima n.a rmpurea Y pa lo.d ~1 [2A] dos't k.ew it I us give Tum a>uad .rwer b that [24] oownad im a.otrs wYe ww prneatM hee aetl.{T I25] qaertin. [2S] MR. MoDONNeU.: Objec" AJmi aad
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Ssns. 59n. 60/4. f017, 4G7, Po#2. 61n. 42112. 6713, 47118, eV13. 64114. 69112, 76/19, 77110, 77110, 79/11, 79114. 79115, 79110, tlnS, s3n1. Hn, t3n0. tsnf, t4tl1, l7ril, t7nS, t9/13, tSns, 9114, fln, 91/1, 91/0, 91n0. fm5. 9219, 116114, 97119, 94111. 100/13. 10711t, 1o371f, 1o112L 110111, 11011i, 11tn. 120ht. 131n0. 131n., 13/!f, 137n4, 11fn6.131ro, 133n3,13312, 134ns. 137n, 137R, 137nf, 139n, 140n. 140/f0, 140/16. 141f3, 14311, 144/{. 145n3, 14i/1s. 1441210, 150/3, 15113, 15N24, 150, 15in1, 15710, 1cfN, 16919, 1sO/te, U6n7, 136117,136412, iW14, 1i7n. It7n, 1TN{, ltt/1, 1iUJ, 17t/5. ttln. 19NH. U3$1. 1fNi5. 193/1, 197p, 197n5, 2004, 20577 CORRBCCION 15IK cor.eCa7 47n4, 150 correlate 161/4 eoeeel.ted 195n1. 196/3 li3flf. 1f1!!, 1GS/3. lesJ17 correlates 76121, CortelitlOY ssn, N74, 196n. 19{/s eorroborate 4L7J COUNCIL 1h, ]n, 3/9, 0, 53 eounKl 7n:, 7n5. 7ns. 7n1, 10/14. 11/S, 64/i1, 65/5, 609, 6Sn2. 8715, 9u4, f1/S, 54117, flns, 9U1f. WSO. ffl20. f6I11. f7/1, f7n, 109f17, 17f/1s. 177n, 177nf, 1sWls, 190/i, 19Y1{, 201n3, mYl, m7724. 30L13. 305/6. 30f7s counetl'e 175/10 eount SYn. SY1i, SS/f, 66/1 euunter 71119 COUNTY 110, L1, 311, 4/1, Sn, 1Y5 coupie 39% Stnt, 74f11. 130/1f. 1362% 1S7/tl, 199n course 17nf, fiK, 113/13. 1M/15 CounN i7h3, 129n3, 1Mn3 COURT 1/0, 7l1, 31, 411. S/l. in, f1n0, 9}nl, 92113, 1S5/1f, 15L10. 3oN1[ eouttety 1019, 130121 eoult[oos 91/19 eourlt 1n7 avertd [t81, iLL 171n1, 30.'1n, ffiVIO Coi 67151 eratbl[ lfsn3 tR.tlve N/s triferi. 167/e C,ror fn3, 1W3 elueld 1tt/13 trude 1t7n0 enereutl7 11n3, 41/s, 434, 4ULt. sLlf. sL31, Ssn0. sfns, 61n1. 6Y13. 7lns, 79117, s1/34 CV 1ffJ, 19ni. 30/4, 3N DANTE 214 data 4Y1, 67/13, 113/17, 11]/if, 147N, 144n4, 1s9d, 1/Wl date 6[76, follf, USn. 201ni dated 1024, 1t5/Is d,fe. 1N1 DaH. 9N11 day 13n4, 11n. 1sN, ISH. f3n6, 119/5. 194n, 303/6, 30/ii7 days 76n, s7/3 deal 129121, ltfn3 daling 40123 December 7218 DECHERT 7M declde 16dn, ]01n6 decWu. 119ns. 12071s deceeue t1/25, t511t. 8647, s6/9. s6f14. s7n9. s/n, 140n3, 14NIS. 141/S, 156f6. 157ni. 15tn, 15tf2S, 159n5, 17fn3, 1®0l4, isOn1. isdnS, 19W deCretted t5n, t5n1, Wfe, itn, 140n, 140n1. 14Q7], 14Y7, 147/t, 14NM, 1U/23. 14345, 14Y11, 1/UH, 156114 deercuH td/i7. nn4. 14317, 147n6, 1504, 157111,157112 defendant 7118. 712/ defendant's 303lIS Delad.utt 110, Ini, 3/11, 4n0, S/IN. fA de11ni1W. 13US. 131!{, 1317s, 131N, 131n1, 131n4, 131ni, 137f13, 13L31, iQn6, 160/17, 16a/L9, 17N1f deDMb. 24716, 34n7. W27 degree YIn. 17n0. 1U1. 19Hri degrees lf/13I lfn4, 4Yll deliberately 4QIS delkate 17lJO deuveeed 31/1. 3913,39117, s/714, W17. WIl, nn1, i,n, 14N24, 156n. 156115, 1fY4, 191n3 deuvevia wm, a/i,i?ns,saK deuverln{ 13914 delivery sln6. s7n. 1ln, sY17. 13fM. 13(J71, 136n3. 13tn3. 13044,13941. 13fnt, 14p7f. 16513. u7l4, 15719. 1l7n1 DENISE 1N DeNoble 115n7, 16sns, liMYO Department IOnO, 7,/14 2m. f01iS. Wti, an, 2117.21111. S7K, 37n. 34/17, 95!!, fe/1a depend 114n0 DRPON6NT sn, 2012s 3L13, Wll, Hlst, 51114,51114, SY1. 6915, 6Vti. eff1, 77J1. 7214 77h, 77hS, t6/5, $7111, 0113, f1n0, N/!, fY7. le5/If. 1t1/10. 127n0, 137A. 132120, 135n. 137K. 137112,137123. 1400, 1S:V7.7, iS1/1s. 15fn1, 161120, 161I7J. 16213,1630. 167n7, 170n3, 11116. 172122.17419, 1ROn, 11113,23, 1sY11, lssns, 19V1L 108125, 201112,20311 DEPOSITION i/s. 7f17, 3IIS, 4n4, !!u, N4. 711, 9n, 91131 91141 9n5, f/1f. 91201 0123, 108, 10112, 4LY, 91117. 93n0, 93n3, 93nS. 9Vnf, f3n3, fU6, 1001941111 fU14, fSne, 97/13, fL1s, 9Sns, 9!lit. f5/21, f7h. 91114. 97117,122112, 1]1/10. 133n7, 153n6. 175ne. 17Sn5, 17in3, 17K1. ]07l11. m3/1s Depodtlons 7/5 deprived 179757, 1i1V3, llOnO, 1p$1, 1sfRS, 199/17 deelntiw 1S6A derbetioW 126134 delCefbe 1{3n dacrmed 4071e, 67ni,1Yii, lStns. 1fs/S determlof ls7/s de.crlptlo 331L, 3V32, 1RVI dedp 3fn7 detiped 19dls destroy 166f1t deNR 1Ln, 6716, 1]4n7, 12V24, 16elM, 30e/17 delaRe 137710 dae~wtl~o.~Stns, u3ns determine !l/s, 1iS/Lt,1KnS . delerminM 7Ah5, 17Y17, 1tOne ' dN...,,6,1..Q 3fn5 ~ devClOp 31n4, 114125 developln{ 31113, 31n6, 114021 Developmeat ifM developmeeb S7n1, i!!77 diary 1sN1, 1s3/4 dURreaa 11111, 14eH. lssq. 10115 diNerentu nnf, lsfn3, 15sns diHeteuUal 49n0, 49n3, SDn1, ISSN, 1lsfif difkrentialy 4tn3.47n4 dDReoR 77n di/f1,.911ks 15/1e dlDlealty 46117 Dlttet iK, 9/4, 111n1, 113n1 directed 62115. 42116. 73n7 dlreetlns [Sl1. 17fn6, 17sns di[eello. /0Y1], lOW4. 140/2S. 177124 dfnetor 20, 3G/14, 30n0, SOR7, 20114 , slni, 11/11, 111n1 dl.aQeea 137ne disciplines tln discontinued ueH,111n dbeun 1WIs discussed 139/e dLeullo. 73fn1, 1SS7f, ]tlns di.¢usslou. 119414,12041, IW17, 1fUJ diremfuated 307I17 airemin.No. 17fn3 diYtrmnted 191,21 dietrlhntiu. 1f3n7 DISTRICT en disturbances 1f7n3, 19W,19f/5 DtvYlo. 7L.e, 3fld, NN, 2014, 3fn3, Wt4, 30/s, 3141, 3203, 329, SHH, 1C7nI, 16t/17 doctor 1Snf, sU71, fi/14, 1MR1, 10f/11, 13in1, 1iSIL7. 243113 doenment 1L1t, ifn6, fY1f, t371f, f0/17, 90n3, tOnO. 1i4n7. 1/7/1N, 147/11. 145/21, 146/1S. 147/4, 147n., 14943, 15ln, 15i/1, 157/1f. 143n7, 164112. 16414, 1W1f. 1659, 1H/li, 17/A, 174n0, 175n1. 175120, 1741115, 17inf, 177/3, 177n1. 17ln1. 114119, lsffiL 182% 1i7134. ILY3, 11130, 1{3/31, 11fff, 11U13, 1f7/i, 19L14, 19/n1. 19sn7. 10.'MI dneumentd 1411113, 19903 documents 43/4, GV.S. 4.1n7, 4L17. HK, f/n. 6U15. WH. 6505, 65/15, iRU, {5YN. fflU, f6n0, i(@7, f3n1, fe7, leLls, 1H/S5, 1s1n1, 171n1. 10N1. 157n. 157nf. 16YR. 164036 1GYJ. 1Nfi, 1NnS, 1s1M, uils, 2Y7/3, 30I11 doesn't WS7, 1sY11. 17" dog 1sU5 DorY 141146 10. 164 double 137/1: dorbte 11vN Dr. - etrGu 11s14 Dr. Abel eCOs Dr. foactY T1A, 71/f, 71fi7, fl/L 7LW 73Q7, 7573. 75132, sOA, M/l. Dr. Caedylo.. 11tJ.f. 119/f. 13YM Dr. GC6.r1e.XVI3L7e, 3314 Dr. C.a 73129 . Dr. Davies 130/1s , Dr. DeNoble 118l13. 111N, 117/1 Dr. DeNoble's 109n1. 11an. 11M 115n6 I Dr. Don. Ln. L/S, 141025, 146fit, 111n3, ~1pns, 1sY1, 132121, 1s3/1 Dr. Dmn's 1464 Dr. Gerd 3fns Dr. GuOotfa flf, lYa, 11/13, 4f,73, e3A, 127n3, 15tns, 175/11, 171714, I7Nf, 11711s, 178112. i9tlih 20215. 707A7, LYN Dr. GoOotfa's 11XIN Dr.7erts 131146 Dr. 311. 32112 Dr. Ke. 13s/11 Dr. [obsl 36/17, 3f/if, 3641. 37n0, 37ns, 3114, 38122, /sf10. 44118, ltK, 41n3, 45115, 4e137, 4t/11i4 le/10, flni, SLl7. SSn. SVIf. lanl, "r^ Ly f~1K, i1/1, lAt t.Lil, ff114, eYls Dr. Mki.d 740 Dr. Nancy 131/16 Dr. Peter 130021 Dr. RlcheH 63f11 Dr. Robl. S3ne Dr. Ryan 1s3n1 Dr. 8sde2. 311236 3311. 314 Dr. SeeW. 1340 Dr. Ted WL Dr. Uydm 11M1, 1W37, 1210, 137H/ Dr. Uydat' 12N3s Dr. wullu 2710 draw 136'12, 137/N drbe 1tL11. 1WIS, 1WK drfwsy 1744 dfY/ 41/A. 49019, 4f/M,17LIS fn~.i S s ~ 4W. i,~Blit71 ~~ 171n7, 177n, 177/11, 17]/17, 177H, 17Lt, 177/N DSM 131113, 1Ws Dm. 37A duplicate 14443, lse/13 duplicated 116'27, llln duplkalef 14fn4, ufpl dupuealal 114/M duplicative 117124 durWR 14h, 1sn1. SSne. 17hi, ]7nf. L/31, 31n, 31nf. 321s, 37A, 37n3, 1V13. SSnf. fDl[, 127115, Y37nS, 1Y/tlf, 14414 1N114, 151d1,
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