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U.S. SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT & PUBLIC WORKS
SUBCOMMITTEE ON CLEAN AIR & NUCLEAR REGULATION
SENATOR JOSEPH I. LIEBERMAN, CHAIRMAN
Hearing to discuss the possible health effects to non-smokers
of environmental tobacco smoke
Wednesday, May 11, 1994
9:30 a.m.
Hart Senate Office Building, Rm. 216
WITNESS LIST
Panel I
The Honorable Carol M. Browner
Administrator
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
Washington, D.C.
The Honorable M. Joycelyn Elders, M.D.
Surgeon General
U.S. Public Health Service
Washington, D.C.
Panel II
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Dr. Christopher Coggins
Principal Research & Development Toxicologist
R.J. Reynolds
Winston-Salem, North Carolina
Dr. Aubrey Taylor
Professor and Chairman
Department of Physiology
University of Southern Alabama
School of Medicine
(On behalf of the American
Lung Association)
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Dr. Jane Gravelle
Senior Specialist in Economic Policy
Congressional Research Service
Washington, D.C.
(Accompanied by Dr. Dennis Zimmerman
Specialist in Public Finance
Congressional Research Service)
Dr. William Blot
National Cancer Institute
Consultant, EPA, Science Advisory Board
Bethesda, Maryland
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How about that?
SENATOR LIEBERMAN: Thank you, Senator Lautenberg.
I actually have more questions but I'm going to submit them to
you in writing, and hope that my colleagues will do the same, so we
can move on to the third panel. It's been waiting quite a while.
, I want to thank you, Dr. Taylor and Dr. Coggins, for being
here and for your testimony.
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DR. TAYLOR: Thank you, all, very much.
SENATOR LIEBERMAN: Our third panel, Dr. Jane Gravelle, Senior
Specialist in Economic Policy, Congressional Research Service,
accompanied by Dr. Dennis Zimmerman, who's a Specialist in Public
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DR. TAYLOR: Thank you all very much.
SENATOR FAIRCLOTH: Dr. Taylor?
DR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
SENATOR FAIRCLOTH: I want a yes-or-no answer.
DR. TAYLOR: Okay.
SENATOR FAIRCLOTH: Is suntanning dangerous to your health?
DR. TAYLOR: Suntanning can cause skin cancer. It certainly
SENATOR FAIRCLOTH: All right.
DR. TAYLOR: But everybody, I think, is quite aware of that.
But see, I don't have to go into the sun unless I want to. I have
that prerogative. I have the prerogative to also put on some
suntan protection agent. But I don't have any prerogative when I
go take my grandson -- I tell you what I really [unintelligible].
I have a grandson who has asthma.
SENATOR FAIRCLOTH: I'm sorry.
DR. TAYLOR: No. Let me -- I want to get this out. I have a
grandson who has asthma. And what I did is that I walked -- we go
into a restaurant, and if someone's smoking back in the smoking
section, which isn't all the restaurant, he will immediately start
wheezing. This is my grandson. And I've seen a lot of people
wheezing, get sick, but it scares the hell out of me when my
grandson gets sick.
SENATOR LIEBERMAN: You made your point. Thank you.
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Finance; and Dr. William Blott of the National Cancer Institute, a
consultant to EPA and its Science Advisory Board, from Bethesda,
Maryland.
Folks, thanks for your patience. Some of you have been
referred to earlier on. So we look forward to hearing from you at
this point.
Dr. Gravelle, you're first.
DR. JANE GRAVELLE: Mr. Chairman and members of the committee,
my colleague Dennis Zimmerman and I would like to thank you for the
invitation to discuss the statistical basis for estimates of the
health effects of passive smoking.
I would like to begin by noting that we're economists and our
area of expertise relates to economic analysis and the associated
areas of statistical inference and quantification of effects for
purposes of the cost-benefit analysis and related economic_
policies. Our involvement in this issue was the result of a
research paper on the proposed cigarette tax. In order to assess
economic efficiency issues, it was necessary to examine any costs
that smokers might impose on nonsmokers. This led us to a review
of the methodology used to assess the scientific evidence on
passive smoking.
We realize that this passive-smoking issue is a controversial
one. Let us begin by emphasizing what we are not saying. We are
not saying the Environmental Protection Agency's analysis was done
incorrectly or that the studies they analyzed were done
incorrectly. We are not reaching conclusions about the biological
and medical issues, which are outside our area of expertise. And
we do not intend any numbers that we have calculated to represent
a risk assessment.
Our evaluation of the statistical evidence on passive smoking
let to two conclusions. First, the evidence that passive smoking
causes disease is far less certain than the effects for active
smoking. Second, the health costs of these potential passive-
smoking effects, which we translated into a tax per pack, are
likely to be small, although there is likely to be some uncertainty
attached to these estimates. The reasons for that view our
outlined in our written testimony, which we would like to submit
for the record. And I would like to highlight the major points
made in that testimony.
SENATOR LIEBERMAN: Fine.
GRAVELLE: Now that I've said all the things we can't do, let
me say what we can...
SENATOR LIEBERMAN: Go ahead.
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GRAVELLE: ...say about it.
The evidence of a health effect from passive smoking with no
threshold observed for health damage -- excuse me. The evidence of
a health effect from active smoking with no threshold observed for
health damage is not sufficient to demonstrate a passive-smoking
effect, since a threshold effect could occur between the lightest
active-smoking level studied and the smaller level of passive-
smoking exposure. Since theory is not certain, one approach to
studying passive-smoking effects is to examine epidemiological or
statistical studies.
Given the small risks that are often found for passive
smoking, the statistical problems are of greater concern for
passive smoking than for active=smoking studies. That is, when the
effects are small, it is more likely that some error in design or
specification could be responsible for the results. And given this
greater uncertainty, consistently of the results with alternative
evidence becomes more critical.
In the case of lung cancer, most recently summarized by the
Environmental Protection Agency, 30 studies which examined the
incidence of lung cancer among nonsmoking wives, depending on
whether or not their husbands smoked, were combined into an
aggregate study. The following are some of the issues discussed in
our written statement that might bring some uncertainty to bear no
these statistical studies.
Let me say these tend to extend to things other than lung
cancer: children's respiratory diseases, heart disease, and other
diseases that have been studied.
First, some method of aggregating these studies is necessary,
but there are certain subjective aspects to performing such a
combined analysis.
Second, some uncertainty attaches to the estimates in most of
the individual studies due to the need to rely on interview data to
measure exposure.
Third, there is a possibility that results reflect the effects
of active smoking due to possible misclassification of former or
current smokers as never-smokers.
Fourth, the failure to account for other lifestyle factors
that might be correlated with marriage to a smoker and that might
be independently associated with lung cancer, leading to possible
spurious correlation exists.
And five, two large new studies which were not included in the
EPA study do not seem to us to add certainty to the statistical
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evidence. Indeed, the results of the largest study finds no
overall risk from passive smoking.
Now, a possible alternative approach to examining the passive-
smoking effects would be an extrapolation for the levels of active
smoking, and it is discussed because it provides an alternative
measure that might or might not corroborate the direct statistical
evidence.
The average exposure to passive smoking, as indicated in the
EPA study based on cotinine (?) in the urine, is about one-half of
one percent, or the equivalent of one-tenth of a cigarette per day.
A linear extrapolation produces an estimate of 600 never-smoker
deaths, compared to the 2000 never-smoker deaths estimated by the
EPA based on statistical studies. * A non-linear extrapolation
yields virtually no deaths.
These differences are even more pronounced -- these
discrepancies between the two approaches are even more pronounced
for heart disease, where a linear extrapolation yields about a
thousand deaths and the statistical studies show in excess of
30,000 deaths.
These results I'll leave to you to judge what you think about
these, but we see them as subject to question, since the
statistical estimates for passive-smoking heart disease represent
26 percent of active-smoking attributable deaths, despite the much
lower level of physical exposure. It's also much, much larger than
the lung-cancer, estimated lung-cancer deaths.
And the EPA rejected this extrapolation approach for several
reasons, and I can elaborate on these later if you'd like, although
they did review the literature -- and there's a literature using
this linear extrapolation method -- and they actually used the
approach themselves with passive smoking, extrapolating from female
never-smoker deaths that could be estimated directly from their
statistical risk ratios to workplace and other exposures.
And I'd like to close by adding that -- I'd like to remind you
of the fact that both of these methodologies, direct statistical
evidence and physical extrapolation, have inherent problems, but
currently they're the only recourse we have in providing you with
information on the issues before you.
We'd be happy to elaborate further on any of these issues.
Thank you.
SENATOR LIEBERMAN: Thank you, Dr. Gravelle. Thanks for your
testimony and indicating the context in which you entered this
discussion.
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Dr. Blott, welcome. We look forward to your testimony now.
DR. WILLIAM BLOTT: Thank you.
Good morning, Senator Lieberman and members of the
subcommittee.
My name is William Blott. I am Chief of the Biostatistics
Branch at the National Cancer Institute. I've been on the staff of
NCI for about 20 years conducting epidemiologic research on the
environmental and host determinants of cancer. Many of these
research studies have evaluated the role of tobacco in cancer risk.
I'm pleased and honored to be here today to discuss the conclusions
of the EPA Science Advisory Board in its review of the EPA draft
report on the health effects of passive smoking.
In 1990 I was asked to serve as one of about nine consultants
to a standing Science Advisory Board at EPA and was requested to
address several issues in the draft report on passive smoking.
Perhaps the most important issue was whether the evidence was
sufficient to conclude that environmental tobacco smoke -- and
occasionally I might refer to that as ETS -- is causally related to
lung cancer.
The Science Advisory Board met in December of 1990 and again
in the summer of 1992 to discuss the EPA report and to review
testimony on the health effects of ETS exposure. I helped the
board prepare its recommendations, which were delivered to the EPA
in the fall of 1992; and then the EPA, in January of 1993, released
its final report.
The Science Advisory Board unanimously concluded, based on the
review of the totality of evidence available, that the EPA was
justified in categorizing environmental tobacco smoke as a Class A
carcinogen. That is, as a substance which can cause cancer in
people. The board also concurred with the EPA's assessment that
the severity of asthma and the risk of other respiratory diseases
in children could be increased form exposure to environmental
tobacco smoke. But I will restrict my remarks to its association
with cancer.
Over 30 epidemiologic studies conducted in the United States
and abroad have evaluated risk of lung cancer among nonsmokers
exposed to environmental tobacco smoke, primarily by studying lung
cancer among nonsmoking women married to smokers. Not all of the
studies have reported an excess risk linked to environmental
tobacco smoke but the great majority have. This consistency of
findings across studies throughout the world establishes that
exposure to environmental tobacco smoke is indeed associated with
a small but a measurable increase in lung cancer.
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Several additional features of the data led the Science
Advisory Board, myself included, to conclude that the relationship
was likely to be causal. That is, that it was the environmental
tobacco smoke that was responsible for the increase in lung cancer
among passive smokers.
First, virtually all of the studies that examined dose-
response trends found rising risk of lung cancer with increasing
level of exposure to environmental tobacco smoke. The more the
spouse smoked, the greater the risk to the nonsmoking partner.
This is what would be expected if, in fact, environmental tobacco
smoke were a carcinogen.
Second, there was no compelling evidence that the association
was simply due to bias or to confounding by other risk factors for
lung cancer. Although only a few studies adjusted for dietary or
other risk factors, those that did tended to show little change in
the magnitude of the association between environmental tobacco
smoke and lung cancer.
Third, increased risks of lung cancer were actually observed
at exposure levels found in typical environmental settings. Thus
the risk assessment that was performed by EPA did not have to rely
on extrapolations from high-dose settings, as is sometimes done
when relevant low-dose data are not available.
And finally, there is a biological plausibility of the
association. We know that cigarette smoking is the dominant cause
of lung cancer in this country, and in fact in most others, with
upwards of a 20-fold excesses in risk in heavy smokers. Nonsmokers
exposed to environmental tobacco smoke inhale many of the same
substances that smokers do, although in smaller amounts.
Components of tobacco smoke have been detected in the blood and in
the urine of nonsmokers, With some of the carcinogenic compounds in
tobacco bound to the hemoglobin of passive smokers. Thus there is
no doubt that tobacco components are absorbed and metabolized by
ETS-exposed nonsmokers.
There are differences in the chemical compositions,
quantitative differences in the chemical compositions of
environmental tobacco smoke and inhaled cigarette smoke, but there
are a great man qualitative similarities. It is therefore
biologically plausible that this lower level of exposure to tobacco
from environmental tobacco smoke results in an increase in lung
cancer risk.
There is uncertainty as to extent of the increased risk and
the exact numbers of cancers among Americans that might result from
passive smoking. Such imprecision is a common trait in
epidemiologic studies and reflects variations in sample sizes and
other characteristics of the available data. Thus the estimate
that 3000 lung-cancer deaths per year are due.to environmental
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tobacco smoke exposure is reasonable but it is an approximate
figure.
The Science Advisory Board recommended that such uncertainty
be recognized, but this did not alter our scientif ic judgment that
prolonged exposure to environmental tobacco smoke can increase the
risk of lung cancer. This was the fundamental conclusion that was
drawn by EPA and also by reviews of the National Academy of
Sciences and the Surgeon General, and one with which the Science
Advisory Board and myself fully concurred.
Thank you for this opportunity to come before you. I'll be
happy to answer any questions.
SENATOR LIEBERMAN: Thank you, Dr. Blott.
Let me ask you a question that I'm going to submit in writing
to Dr. Coggins, who was on the last panel, because I thought that
-- I want you to respond, if you would, to what I thought was at
the center of his critique of the EPA study and some of the other
evidence, some of the other allegations about the effect of
secondhand smoke on people. And that was this whole question of
volume, or as he -- dose.
DR. BLOTT: Dose.
SENATOR LIEBERMAN: In other words, yes, perhaps the chemical
components of the smoke that people inhale when they smoke and the
chemical components of secondhand smoke are similar, but the dose
is so different that it stretches the imagination to think that
secondhand smoke could actually be such a determinant of cancer.
He testi -- Dr. Coggins indicated in his testimony that the maximum
amount of secondhand smoke to which a nonsmoker is exposed is
equivalent to approximately one to four or one to five, I think he
said, cigarettes per year. And he described -- he said that was
such a trivial dose that it is, quote, scientif ically implausible
that they can result in meaningful toxicological activity.
And I'd say again, playing the -- not playing the role, but as
a layman, the thought of one to four cigarettes a year doesn't
sound like it could cause all the illness and disease and death
that we've heard testified to.
So, I know that -- I gather, from having gotten into -- that's
the top of the iceberg. That's what we see. Underneath is all
this complicated statistical inquiry and methodology. And I gather
that some of this may have to do with the physical extrapolation
method that Dr. Coggins used.
But I wanted to ask you if you would respond to those
allegations, because I think they go to the heart of what's at
issue here.
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DR. BLOTT: Well, I think this one to -- the equivalent of one
to four cigarettes per years is definitely a minority view. It's
the first time I've heard this today. And I think the evidence
that's available suggests that the amount of exposure to
environmental tobacco -- from environmental tobacco smoke in a
nonsmoker...
SENATOR FAIRCLOTH: Would you come a little closer to the
microphone?
DR. BLOTT: That the actual levels experienced by nonsmokers
are much greater than that.
A comment that was made by Dr. Gravelle was if you lboked at
cotinine levels, which cotinine is a metabolite of nicotine, in
nonsmokers who are exposed to environmental tobacco smoke, compared
to smokers, the ratio might be in the order of somewhere between
one to a hundred or one to two hundred. That is, these nonsmokers
have a much lower amount of cotinine in their body. But if you
figure an average cigarette smoker smokes a pack a day of
cigarettes pez year -- a pack of cigarettes per day and there are
365 days per year, you multiply 20 times 365 and you take one
percent of that, it's going to be a number much greater than the
one to four.
The problem in the extrapolations from biomarkers, as they're
called, is that there are so many different compounds in cigarette
smoke. There may be 4000 different compounds. There are 40 or so
carcinogens. And it depends -- the answer you get as to the
relative exposure for a smoker, compared to a nonsmoker, exposed to
environmental tobacco smoke depends upon which of these biomarkers
you choose. If you choose the extreme that Dr. Coggins mentioned,
you'll get this bay (?), which I think is not reasonable. You take
a cotinine level...
SENATOR LIEBERMAN: What's the extreme?
DR. BLOTT: Well, that you get the equivalent of one to four
cigarettes per year.
SENATOR LIEBERMAN! Yeah.
Are you familiar with the method used by Dr. Coggins?
DR. BLOTT: In general.
SENATOR LIEBERMAN: Yeah.
DR. BLOTT: The extrapolation method.
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