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Contents
Rzewnicki and Forgays on
Schachter .................. 97
Wolpe on Lazarus ............. 100
Lazarus Replies ............... 101
Alvarado on Danziger .......... 101
,viountjoy on Kelly ............ 102
Johnson and Morris on Public
Information on Research With
Nonhumans ................ 103
Gibbs and Schnell on Eichorn .... 104
Franzini on Anonymous Review .. 104
Riordan and Marlin on Unethical
Research Practices ........... 104
Recidivism and Self-Cure of
Smoking and Obz'sity:
An Attempt to Replicate
Randy Rzewnicla and
Donald G. Forgays
University of Verntont
In 1982 Stanley Schachter published an
article that questioned the prevailing ste-
reotypes concerning the difficulty of
smoking cessation and weight control.
Schachter presented evidence obtained
from two small samples in the New York
metropolitan area that suggested quite
clearly that, contrary to expectations,
many people are able to stap smoking or
to reduce weights to non-obese levels, and,
tpparently can do these things without ti-
tanic effort.
Reviews of interventional programs
dealing with smoking oessation and weight
control present a rather disappointing
picture. For example, Leventhal and
Cleary (1980) stated that intervention for
smoking is effective in heiping people to
stap smoking but faiis at maintenance of
the stoppage: Fewer than 20% of smokers
M"e greatly reduced their smolang or quit
a Yeat' after intervention. This low degree
Of effectrveaess appears frequeatly in the
Smoking management literature. The pia-
tae appeats to be as bleak for weight re-
duction in the obese. Extensive literature
m'icvvs of relevant interventional attempts
Comment
have been published by Stunkard and
McLaren-Hume (1959) and Wing and Jef-
frey (1979), among others. According to
these summaries, only 20% of the obese
can expect to lose as much as 20 pounds
as a result of the interventional process.
The dismal results in both types of therapy
do not support the notion that we know
how to manage these behaviors.
All the more startling, then, are
Schachter's results. He reported that as
many as 60% of heavy smokers and about
60% of the obese he studied are able to
quit or greatly reduce smoking or to lower
their weights to nonobese standards-and,
in most cases, without any interventional
help. Schachter offered as possible expla-
nations of the differences in results (a) the
self-selective nature of the persons seeking
intervention,(b)thelikelihoodthatforin-
terveation seekers it is a single attempt to
modify behavior whereas the interview
respondents may have made several at-
tempts to stop smoking or control weight,
and (c) the interventional processes may
have been completely ineffective (Schach-
ter called them pervase).
It is impossible at this time to eval-
uate which of these explanations is the
most tenable. Nor is it important to do so
before a replication of the study is accom-
plished. It is to this end that the present
study was directed.
Method
Following the procedure of Schachter to
interview the entire membership of se-
lected groups, rather than a randomly se-
lected population, this study entailed in-
terviewing most of the members of the
Psychology Department of the University
of Vermont. This membership was defined
as those having a mailbox in the depart-
meat in the fall of 1984 and whose mail
was picked up at least once a week during
October. Nine members did not pick up
their mail in the time allocated, and four
members refused to take part in the study.
Thus, we interviewed 96% of the 105 de-
partmental members, as defined above. Of
the 92 interviewed, 51 were graduate stu-
dents, 26 were Faculty, and 15 were sec-
retaries, technicians, and support staE
Forty-nine were females and forty-three
January 1987 American Psychologist
were males. Their ages ranged from 22 to
80 (an emeritus professor!), averaging
34.89 years (the age range for Schachter's
study was 16 to 79). This group is largely
academic, most are from urban back-
grounds, and there is some ethnic diversity
among them. The interviewing was con-
ducted by the first author from January
to March, 1985.
The interview followed Schachter's
procedures as closely as possible. Infor-
mation that was not complete enough in
Schachter's article (1982) to allow repli-
cation was obtained directly from him.
The interview began by obtaining the sub-
ject's estimate of height and weight and
ended by obtaining the actual weight of
each willing subject on a digital scale. In
between, the entire smoking history from
the time of the first cigarette and the entire
weight history from the time of full height
was obtained. Probing was done through-
out to assure completeness. Any attempts
to quit smoking or reduce weight were ex-
amined in detail. In a few cases additional
information was obtained in follow-up
visits or calls.
Results
Smokiug
Scbachter had interviewed nearly the en-
tire membership of the Columbia Univer-
sity Psychology Department (N - 83) and
78 entrepreneurial and working persons
from a small resort community in eastern
Long Island. Because we had obtained in-
formation only from the University of
Vermont Psychology Department mem-
bership, we tried to compare only the two
departments. Because of the way that
Schachter displayed his data in the 1982
article, this was not always possible. We
have attempted in each case to make clear
which samples are being compared. When
the two departments are being compared,
they are referred to as CU (Columbia
Univezsity) and UVM (University of Ver-
mont). When Schachter's combined two
samples are compared to UVM, they are
referred to as NY (New York).
Schachter defined a heavy smoker as
one who has smoked 15 or more cigarettes
per day for at least one year and a light
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smoker as one who has smoked less than
15 cigarettes per day for at least one year.
In the NY population, 94 of 161 inter-
viewed were classified as smokers; in the
UVM population. 52 of 92 were so clas-
sified. The percentage of smokers in the
NY and UVM populations are essentially
the same at 58.4% and 56.5%, respectively.
Following Schachter's definitions of
heavy and light smokers, characteristics of
the NY and the UVM smoking popula-
tions are given in Table 1. As seen there,
the two populations are similar in per-
centage of heavy to light smokers, number
ears
e of
y
r
g
an
d
ng, an
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k
o
years o
smo
f
f
smoked. Although the two populations are
similar for light smokers, the heavy smok-
ers in NY smoke more than do those in
the UVM population. Thus, although the
two populations are similar enough to
compare in other features, it should be
noted that NY heavy smokers smoke more
than UVM heavy smokers.
Table 2 presents data on the present
and past smoking status of the two pop-
ulations, employing Schachter's classifi-
cations of cured smoker (former smokers
who are presently not smoking although
they may have a cigarette on infrequent
oaxsions), failed smoker (present smokers
who have tried to quit), indifferent smoker
(present smokers who have never tried to
stop), switched smoker (former cigarette
smokers who now smoke cigars or pipes),
and cigar or pipe smoker (those who
smoke cigars or pipes at present and/or in
the past but have not smoked cigarettes).
As seen there, CU members were more
successful at quitting smoking than were
the UVM membets. About 70% of the CU
male and female heavy smokers success-
fully quit whereas only about half of the
UVM male and female heavy smokers did
so. All of the CU male light smokers who
tried to quit were unsuccessful whereas
70% of the CU female light smokers were
successful. For UVM 80% of the male and
70% of the female light smokers quit suc-
cessfully. Perhaps more striking is the
finding that every smoker at UVM tried
to quit at some time whereas about 80%
of the CU members did so. Schachter re-
ported that the overall percentage of sue-
ce.ssfiil quitters for the CU population is
65.8 and that for his Long Lsland group
61.5. We found the corresponding per-
centage for the UVM population to be
57.7. The NY samples of heavy smokers
were better able to quit than the UVM
heavy smokers, whereas the UVM light
smokers were better able to quit than the
NY samples. We subjected the success/
failure data for the CU and the UVM
groups to several two by two chi-square
analyses, treating sex and amount of
Table 1
Characteristics of the NY and the UVM Smoking Populations
N Mean number
of years
smoked
Rang. of years
trtbMcetl Mean rnxnber
of agarettes
smoKed detly
Range of ogareKea
srraketl aalh/
Type of
smoKer
NY
UVM
NY
UVM
NY
UVM
NY
UVM
NY
UVM
Heavy 73 37 17.4 18.9 2-50 4-48 32.9 20.6 17-90 15-60
Light 21 15 8.2 9.6 1.5-32 1-33 6.8 7.3 1-12 1-14
Note. NY - CambrW aamp/e from a l.ang lalrid rsaort cortxrasrty and Cokrnbba UrWersrty PsycP1o/ogy
Deprtrnent. UVM . UMVersrty of Vermortt Psyefl0b~nr OeperaneMt
smoking separately, and none of these four
analyses was statistically significant at the
p < .05 level.
On the average the sucttssful quitters
at UVM had not smoked for 9.2 years,
close to the figure of 7.4 years for CU. The
percentage of former smokers at UVM
who had not smoked for over one year was
89.3, and 94.4% had not smoked for three
or more months. These data are compa-
rable to the figures of 87.8% and 98%, re-
spectively, reported by Schachter.
Thus, the data for smoking at the two
institutions appears to be quite compa-
rable. However, at least small differences
between the two populations exist, in that
NY has a somewhat greater success rate
for quitting, more indifferent smokers and
more who switch to other tobacco forms,
a somewhat greater success rate for quit-
ting for heavy-smoking males and females,
and less of a success rate for light-smoking
males.
Schachter had asked his cured sub-
jects how difficult it was to quit and
whether they had experienced any craving
or withdrawal symptoms, including irri-
tability, sleeplessness, cold sweats, weight
gain, and so on. He reported that light
smokers had little difficulty in quittiag.
Only two of the NY light smokers reported
problems whereas the other 15 (88.2%)
reported none. For his heavy smokers,
45.8% experienced major difficulties,
25.4% had minor difficulties, and 28.8%
had none.
UVM light smokers reported more
difficulty quitting than the NY groups with
37.5% describing minor and 12.5% indi-
cating major problems. Heavy smokers at
UVM similarly had more difficulty quit-
ting than the NY group, with only 7.9%
reporting no difficulty, 50% reporting mi-
nor difficulty, and 42.1 % indicating major
difficulty.
We wished to compare statistically
the ease of quitting smoking between the
UVM and the NY data. Because Schach-
ter had not reported all three levels of his
difficulty scale for light smokers, only easy
veisus the remaindet; we collapsed our
moderate and difficult categories to make
this comparison, X2 (1) = 13.09, p < .01,
between the proportions of subjects in
these two categories between the two sam-
ples. Light smokers found it easier to quit
inNYthanatUVM.
For heavy smokers, comparing the
NY and WM samples, the difficulty srale
yielded the following: x2 (2) = 21.58, p<
.01. More NY than UVM smokers re-
ported that their attempt to quit was dif-
Tab{e 2
Present Smoking Status of Smokers in the Two
Psychology Department Populations
Curs d Fd.d
MaM Fertr/G Ma le Fntile Mw FartrM Mw FemaN
Typa a
srnoker CU UVM CU wM CU trvM CU uVM cu UvM CU wM CU wM CU :
UVM
Heavy 13 12 5 7 6 10 2 8 1 0 3 0 3 0 0 0 ~
Lght 0 4 7 7 2 1 3 3 3 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 i
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nia.. cu - caurnaa uv." Psycrro+oqy oqrane,t. UVM - Ur*Mrs:y of V«mont Psycho+oQy o.
Narwno/c.n at CU: 13 mds and 1 7 fertWN. Nornmokers at UVM: 13, Waa and 26 kmaks. Ciqar a
pip. amokux 4 at CU. 1 at UVM, ri mda. J
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ficult. Even though the NY and UVM
samples reported about as much severe
craving and withdrawal symptoms. 45.8%
and 42.1% of heavy smokers, respectively,
the full comparison still yielded a signifi-
cant X= between the two samples. XZ (2) =
;0.21, p < .01, with NY having many
more persons than WM reporting no
,a,ithdrawal symptoms and no craving.
tain the following: X2 (1, N= 28) = 11.50,
p<.01. Clearly, the success rate for losing
weight for UVM obese individuals is muoh
much more successful at losing weight
than that at UVM.
less than that for CU obese individuals. Discussion
The weight histuries of obese mem- What we reported above is a partial rep-
bers of the NY and UVM populations by lication of the Schachter findings on
sex are given in Table 3. Data were not smoking and obesity. The NY and the
available by sex for the two NY samples, UVM populations are similar in the dis-
and thus, the CU and LTVM groups could tribution of heavy and light smokers,
not be compared directly. As seen in Table number of years and the range of years of
Obaity 3, there appear to be important differenas smoking, and the percentage of each pop-
As in Schachter's study, the weight data in the data representing the two popula- ulation that
smokes. However, heavy
were obtained by self-report. To assess the tions. A substantial portion of the NY smokers in NY
smoke more than those at
validity of these reports, we weighed con- obese males were sucxessful in reducing UVM. Both studies
report a smoking quit
senting interviewees at the end of the in- their weight to within nonobese levels, rate that is
about three times greater than
terview. Of the total of 92 subjects, 72 or whereas only one obese UVM male was that reported for
most therapeutic inter-
78.396 agreed to be weighed. This is some- able to do so. A chi-square of the data re- ventions. The
CU heavy smoking sample
what higher than Schachter's 59.5%. The flecting all five categories for the two pop- was more
successful at quitting smoking
self-reports turned out to be reasonably ulations of males was significant, X2 (4, than was that of
UVM. Howeven the
accurate, on average being 4.4 pounds N= 35) = 10.80, p < .05. NY females nearly 50% quit level for
this group is still
(2.5%) discrepant from scale weight. This appear also to be more successful at weight very good
indeed, and higher than what we
finding replicates Schachter's results and management than the UVM females, and see so firequently
in the reports of clinical
Stunkard and Albaum's (1981) report on this difference is also significant, Xz (4, N= intervention
studies of heavy smokers. The
accuracy of weight self-reports. 28) = 11.01, p < .05. Another difference CU light smoking males are
less successful
Schachter defined obesity as 15% or between the two populations is the number at quitting smoking
than are those at
more over the average weights found in of indifferent male subjects; NY has six UVM. The females at
both institutions are
the tables of the Society of Actuaries such subjects and UVM none. The per- equally and highly
successful. The years
(1959). Cured fat individuals are those centages of overweight individuals both at of successful
nonsmoking are quite com-
who have been obese, have lost at least prediet and at interview time are not parable for the two
populations. Howevet;
10% of their prediet weight, and are no markedly different for the two populations, both light and
heavy smokers in NY report
longer obese. Panially cured fcu individuals and so the sua.~ess-rate differences seem that it is
easier to quit than do those at
have been obese and have lost 1.0% or more to be due to other factors. UVM. Because virtually all of
the com-
of their prediet weight, but are still 15% Schachter reported that the obese in parisons made of the
two populations are
or more averweight. PartiaUy failed fat in- his study who attempted to lose weight not statistically
signiflcantly different (only
dividuals are persons who have been obese lost more weight than subjects in the clin- the quit rate
difference for light male
and have lost less than 10% of their prediet ical studies summarized in Stunkard and smokers
approaches statistical signifi-
weight but are no longer obese. Failed fat Penick (1979). His male subjects lost an cance), we can
conclude that the data for
individuals are obese persons at interview average of 26.8 pounds in the 9.7 years smoking results
are similar for the two
who had lost less than 10% of their prediet since they started dieting, and his female populations.
weight. Indifferent fcu persons are those subjects 24.8 pounds in 7.5 years. Each of Both studies
have found a quit rate
obese who have never attempted to lose these averages is considerably higher than for all smokers of
approximately 60%. Be-
weight. Norntals are those who have never that reported from the clinical studies. AU cause both
studies dealt with samples that
as adults been 15% or more overweight. of the obese males in the UVM population were very close to
the size of their popu-
Of the 18 obese persons in the CU tried to lose weight and were able to lose lations, we can
conclude that the 60% quit
Population who attempted to lose weight, an average of 14.8 pounds in the 10.6 years rate is more
representative of actual suc-
13 were classified as cured fat, 3 as par- since they began. For UVM females, the cess than the much
lower figures usually
tia11y failed fat, 2 as failed fat, and none figures are 23.2 pounds for an average of reported in
the internntion literature.
as putially cured fat. Eighteen of the 92 9.24 years. Thus, our female weight loss We have provided
somewhat less
UVM interviewees reported a history of data corresponds well to Schachter,s support for Schachter's
obesity findings.
obesity, and 17 of them had attempted to whereas our mak data does not. There were many more fat
subjects in the
~ ge
lose 2~t Three were classified as cured Schachter examined separately his ~~~tion who were able to
mana
partially cured fat, 2 as partially subjects wl~ were at least 30% overvva ght.. ~"'~~t than in the
UVM poQttla-
failed fat, and 10 as failed fat. Thus, per- He found that these 11 "grossly" over- tion-about two
and one-half times as
saos in the LJVM population did not enjoy maay. Both males and females in NY were
the sucass at losing weight that the CU weight persons (6.8%) were as sucoessful more suxesful at
losing weight than their
population did. at losing weight as those less obese. They UyM countetparts. These differences are
Combining the cured and partially lost an average of 46.7 pounds; seven were all statistically
significant. Because the de-
cured fat and the failed and the partially class;ified as cured fat and only one as failed gree of
overweightness is similar in the two
6iled fat data and comparing the CU and fat. For UVM, there were eight "gtOssly" populations,
unknown factors must aa
chi-square tests rc- obese (8.7%), 3 males and 5 females, who count for them
UVM populations b
It wuuld be informative
.
y
~ Kals a significant differencx between tbe averaged 47.6% overweight- Only one of and likely would
contribute to theory
t1"o groups, X2 (1, N= 35) = 6.41, p< the UVM obese individuals was in the building in this area to
study further tIu
.05. If we dr% the two partial classifica- gi'oup of cured fat at interview, whereas 5 interesting
location and sex differences re-
ao°s aad compare only the cures and fail- were in the failed fat group. Thus, the NY ported above.
~ ura for the CU and UVM groups, we ob- sample of "grossly" obese persons was The accuracy of the
retrospective
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Table 3
Weight Histories of Formerly and Currently Obese Members of the NY and UVM Populations
N
Predbt we0ght
% oysrweught
W®igM at fntervlew
% overweght No. yean snos
ceqrr,ng we+qnc
loas resurroa
Category NY UVM NY UVM NY UVM NY UVM NY UVM NY UVM
Male
Cured fat 14 1 214.4 207.0 29.4 16.0 175.3 162.0 1.2 -9.0 13.4 19.0
Partially cured
fat
0
1
308.0
-
77.0
-
211.0
-
21.0
-
16.0
Partially failed fat 2 1 179.5 210.0 11.9 18.0 168.5 203.0 4.6 14.0 3.6 7.0
Failed fat 5 5 190.4 240.8 31.8 25.0 191.9 241.8 30.2 23.4 1.6 6.5
Indifferent 6 0 - 200.7 - 21.9 - - -
Female
Cured fat
11
2
158.5
168.5
27.3
30.0
129.5
115.0
-0.6
-10.5
8.3
11.0
Partially cured
fat
4
1
191.5
240.0
57.8
66.0
153.3
170.0
24.1
17.0
2.3
6.0
Partially failed fat 3 1 156.0 155.0 16.8 24.0 148.3 147.0 8.6 18.0 5.7 6.0
Failed fat 1 5 185.0 176.4 23.3 34.8 198.0 176.4 26.9 33.6 25.0 9.8
Indifferent 0 1 - 165.0 - 38.6 - -
NoN. NY - Cmntxrtl sampa hom a rasort oornnxity n Long bNnd ano Cofunbia lhtirsnity Payofwbgy
oepertrn«x. UVM = Univsnity of Vhmront PSyehdogy
oep.rv,"rx.
' Thaea perarap. orerwaiplx fipLra ars a&usted 1or .pa. a«c. and hd¢x ot subjaa n th. two
poptYtlornm
data collection technique used by Schach-
ter (=d lry us) has_beea questioned by Jef-
frey and Wing (1983). They displayed both
smoking and obesity data based on lacgc
national samples, which show lower levels
of sucass than Schachter had reported:
Schachter (1983) has suggested that their
obesity data are questionable but that their
smoking data may be more accurate than
his. Our own data are more in line with
Schachter's than with those of Jeffrey and
Wing, especially for smoking.
Thus, Scfachter's @eaeral finding that
smoking and being ovetwaght may be self-
cured in many petsons has been confirmed
in Iarge measure by the present results,
which are based upon a nea*ly complete
sample of a known population.
Jeffre3, R. W & Wiag, R. R. (1983). Raidfvism
and selfcure of smoking and obesity: Data
from population snidiat. Amerfcmt PsyChal-
ogist, 38,852.
Leveathal, H., & Cleary, P. D. (1980). The
smoking problem: A review of the reaarch
and theocy in behaviocal risk modif.ation.
Ps}riiological Bulletirt. 88, 370-405.
Schacttte~ S. (1982). Rocidavism and seif-Gttts
of smoking and obesty. Amerim Psyrhoi-
ogist. 37, 436-444.
Scitschtez S. (1983). More on raad'rrism.
Americmt Psyrbologist. 38. 854-855.
Society of Actuaries. (1959). New weight sttm-
dards for men and women. staristtccl su!-
letin. Meaepolitan Life Instamice Camatx
40. 1-4.
Stunkard. A. J., & AIbaum, J. M. (1981). Tbe
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axuacy of sdf-reported weighm Anuricaa ~
Journal of Clinical Ntaritiat. 34, 1593-1599. ,'
Stunkard, A.1., & McLarea-Hume, M. (1959~ ~
The results of treatment for obesity. ArchfMet
Of Inttrnal Medicine, 103, 79-85. ~
Sr.tnkard, A. J., & Penick, S B. (1979). Behaviar'
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Wing, R R. & Jeffrcy, R W. (1979). Outpatimw
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Coc:esponaeace 0womnin= this com>zxae
should be addrested to Dooald G. Forgays, Dtr
parttaeat of Psy+chology, Unixssity of 1k~
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