Philip Morris
Draft Minutes of 16th Meta Meeting Hotel 'la Reserve', Geneva 930209
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- Bat Southampton
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- Rothmans Intl Exports
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- Jti
- Kuwait Working Group
- Legal Affairs Comm
- Memac
- Meta
- Mohammad Sayeed Cigarette Collective
- Natl Assembly
- Qatar Consultative Council
- RJR, R.J.Reynolds
- Rothmans Intl Exports
- Saso
- Spicer Pegler
- Tei
- Thai Working Group
- Va Industries
- Arab Air Carriers Org
- Bat, British American Tobacco
- Ceccm
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- Filtrona
- Gcc
- Gcc Health Ministers Conference
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- Aladwa, K.S.
- Alajami, S.N.
- Alasimi, M.M.
- Aljamhour, G.A.
- Aljouaan, H.A.
- Alkandari, J.A.
- Alkeib, A.K.
- Alkhatib, A.M.
- Allen, R.R.
- Almurshed
- Almurshed, M.S.
- Alnaasir, A.M.
- Alqassimi, M.
- Alroumi, A.Y.
- Baqir, A.Y.
- Davies, R.
- Dufty, C.
- Hadida, S.A.
- Hayati, Y.M.
- Rowland, W.D.
- Sharar, Mda
- Aguilar, E.
- Baroudi, B.
- Belcher, M.
- Bevan, J.
- Boder, J.B.
- Galgut, R.
- Hancock, R.
- Mcculloch, K.M.
- Mcleod, T.
- Nassif, G.
- Nelmes, A.
- Pross, D.
- Schedel, H.
- Shillabeer, P.
- Touma, E.
- Whitehead, M.
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FEB 11 '93 11:45 META
DRAFT MINUTES OF
16TH META MEETING
Hotel "La Reserve", Geneva
February 9, 1993
170 P03
Present: Mr. K.M. McCulloch - R J Reynolds (Host)
Mr. D. Pross
Mr. E. Touma
Mr. H. Schedel - Philip Morris (Chair company)
Mr. G, Nassif
Mr. B. Baroudi
Dr. J-B Boder
Mr. R. Galgut - B.A.T.
Mr. R. Davies
Mr. P. Shillabeer - B.A.T., Southampton
Mr. E. Aguilar - Brown & Williamson
Mr. T. McLeod
Mr. M. Whitehead
Mr. M. Belcher
Dr. A. Nelmes
Gallaher International Ltd.
Mr. R. Hancock
Mr. J. Bevan
Dr. W.D. Rowland
Rothmans International Exports
Mr. R. Allen - META Secretary

FEB 11 '93 11:45 METR
A enda
I. Minutes of the 15th meeting - October 20, 1992
II. Matters Arising
III. META Administration
1. META Office 1992 & 1993 Budgets
2. JAFZA Licence
IV - VII. KEY ISSUES/THREATS
A/ 1. Kuwait Anti-Smoking Bill
A/2. GCC Health Ministers' Conference,
Muscat January 10 - 11, 1993
170 P04
A/3. Gulf Anti-Smoking Committee & Symposia (10/92)
IV. Marketing Freedoms
1. UAE Voluntary Code
2. UAE: Dubai-Abu Dhabi Road Hoardings
3. Sharjah Municipality Promotional Restrictions
4. Qatar Consultative Council
V. Product Regulations
1. Gulf Standards : Industry Submissions & follow-up
2. SASO Upgrade Packages
- Filtrona
Industry letter to SASO Director-General
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VI. Public Smoking
Industry Paper
VII. Scientit5c Misinformation/Industry Image
1. Trademark infringements/Fake goods
& Juvenile Smoking
VIII - XI. KEY FUNCTIONS/RESOURCES
VIII. Environmental Monitoring/Early Warning
IX. Information Management/Data Base
X. Co-ordinating Industry Action
1. Gulf Standards Subnzissions
2. META Working Groups
XI. Communications/Media Relations
1. Direct Placements
2. VerbaIOvertures/Prevention
3. "Voice of Reason"
4. Monitoring & Early Warning
XII. Any other business
XIII. Date of next meeting
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1. Minutes of th 15th meeting - October 20, 1992
- Minutes approved.
II. Matters Arising
(- See Item XII below)
rII. META Administration
la) META Office 1992 & 1993 Budgets
Mr. Allen referred META companies to Spicer & Pegler's 1992
consolidated accounts and in particular the references on page 6 to the
monies with "Head Office".
Mr. Allen was instructed to locate these monies and refer back.
Action: Mr. Allen
ib) Mr. Allen indicated first-quarter contributions were due. The Treasurer
reported invoices had gone out to META companies.
Action: All Companies
2) JAFZA Licence
Mr. Allen reported the licence and all formalities for 1993 had been
completed.
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IV - VII Key Issues/Threats
A/1) Kuwait Anti-Smoking Bill
Mr. Al-Murshed had tabled - besides the bill above - two other bills
concerned with education and banking, and the chair company would try
to find out what stage these other two bills had reached, and to assess
them to see what points they had in common (Islamicization) with the anti-
smoking bill.
With regard to this, anti-smoking bill, the important thing was to identify
the objectives more closely and how those elements of concern to the
industry could be challenged.
[Lists in Arabic & English of the members of the "Health & Social Affairs
Committee", the "Legal Affairs Committee", and the "Committee for the
Defence of Human Rights" are attached at the end of these minutes.]
META needed a political assessment of this bill and its chances of passing
through the National Assembly as well as a list of the members of the
National Assembly and their political affiliations.
Some parts of the bill were consistent with META companies' concerns for
marketing freedoms. Others were not, These included the proposal to
give the Health Minister the sole authority to act over all areas of concern
to the industry.
Agreed:
1) The Secretary (and the Kuwait Working Group) were to re-draft
the bill in English and Arabic in a form in which it was acceptable
to META, and this preferred version was to be discreetly floated to
key members of the National assembly through companies'
distributors, lawyers, and natural allies.
2) the industry should be seen to respecting existing laws without any
ambivalence.
3) KWG Field Managers were to be instructed by individual META
companies' area directors to see that this - point 2 above - was
carried out.
4) The KWG was to meet asap under the chairmanship of the lead
company. If necessary this meeting was to be held by telephone.
Time was the priority.
5) The KWQ was to reach a common position on marketing practices
and implement META policy guidelines.
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6) Mr. Allen to re-draft the bill; call the Working Group; and the
KWG to reach a common position - by the end of this month
(February). The re-draft to include comments on why the industry
proposed such-and-such wording.
7) This re-draft was to emphasise the industry's concern to respect the
laws.
8) Mr. Allen's re-draft was to contain also a role allocation for each
KWG member for follow-up action in accordance with the first
point agreed above.
Action: Mr. Allen and KWG.
A/2) GCC Health Ministers' Conferences Muscat. January 10 - 11, 1993
Items on the GCC Health Ministerial agenda following this meeting
included:
Lowering of T&N levels to 10:0.6
Testing for carbon monoxide
Imposition of rotating Health Warnings
Testing of water-pipe tobacco
The consensus was that META should become involved with SASO over
these proposals.
It was to be pointed out that consumer preference indicated a trend to
preferring lower T&N levels regardless of any legislation - lowering the
ratio of T&N levels discriminated against brands with full flavour.
It should be recommended that ALL cigarettes entering the Kingdom
should be liable to testing.
Agmed-
1) META to take part on a technical level with SASO - and GCC
Health officials - with input from META company public affairs
managers.
2) Stay at 12:0.8 for as long as possible.
3) If this was not successful, then the industry to recommend that Tar
levels only to be reduced.
4) META scientists to draft a paper on 3) above, also using the T&N
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4) META scientists to draft a paper on 3) above, also using the T&N
paper presented by the chair company to officials at last October's
Gulf Anti-Smoking Symposia in Bahrain.
5) To keep away from arguments about smokers' compensation
tendencies.
6) Include a paper showing the trend to consumers' preferences for
lower T&N.
7) To keep in mind two deadlines: first the GCC Health Ministers'
meeting in May and secondly the trend in Saudi Arabia to T&N
levels of 10:0.6.
Action: META Scientists to draft a paper by mid-March before
their visit to Riyadh in April to check on the installation of
the Filtrona upgrade packages at SASO.
A/3) Gulf Anti-Smoking Committee & Symposia (10/92)
Papers relating to these had been circulated prior to this (META)
meeting.
Companies noted the contents of these papers.
IV. Marketing Freedoms
1) UAE Voluntarv Code
Further written comments were tabled, requesting changes to Draft VII of
October 20 1992. In addition, this Draft VII did not, for example,
incorporate the reference in 2.4 of Draft VI (of March 9 1992) to
Ramadan, and there were other areas where additions would need to be
made to Draft VII to reflect local/national realities.
There was not unanimity on either Draft VI or Draft VII. No Voluntary
Code applied pending unanimous agreement to the future Draft VIII.
Agireed:
For Mr. Allen to incorporate those parts from Draft VI to take account of
local/national realities and incorporate them into Draft VII. Draft VII
would remain as the framework, and, together with META companies'
written and other comments, Mr. Allen to write a new Draft VIII. This
new Draft VIII to marry Drafts VI & VII.
Action: Mr. Allen.
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2) Dubai-Abu Dhabi Road Hoardings
All hoardings had been removed by February 9.
3) Sharjah Municipality: PromQtional Restrictions
Agreed:
In view of the result of the January 30th meeting between the UAE lead
company, RJR, and Rothmans - representing META - and the Director of
the Sharjah Municipality, it was felt that another meeting was needed with
the Chairman of the Municipality His Excellency Shaikh Abdullah Bin
Mohammad Al Qassimi to clarify the situation regarding promotions.
Promotions were continuing in Sharjah which were consistent with general
directives from the federation of UAE Municipalities, and a clarification
of Sharjah's position would indicate to META companies the degree to
which Sharjah intended to enforce its own position.
Action: RJR & Rothmans/TEI.
4) Qatar Consultative Council: Advertising, Restrictions
The Consultative Council had on December 22, noted the contents of the
proposal to ban print advertising. No further action had been taken
following this meeting and last April's industry submission organised by the
chair company.
The chair company would try to obtain a copy of the memorandum
presented to the Consultative Council.
V. Product Regulations
1. Gulf Standards: Industry submissions follow-up
Follow-up meetings had been held in Bahrain & Oman. META
companies agreed to hold similar meetings individually and through
lead companies in other GCC countries.
Aged:
META to try to have deleted Clause 8 of the Gulf Draft Standards
which referred to labelling.
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A health warning was accepted as inevitable but should be in no
particular place and particularly not on the front of the pack.
Date-coding: META to work for year - only.
2. SASO Upgrade Packages
a) Filtrona
The chairman reported the upgrade packages had arrived in
Riyadh on 1 February. The invitation to visit Riyadh had
been sent by SASO to Filtrona to enable the engineer to get
his visa. Installation was due to be completed before
Ramadan (February 22 approx).
META scientists to visit Riyadh after Eid (i.e. after 1 April
in KSA) to check on the installation.
Action: Mr. Allen concerning payment of the invoices.
META scientists concerning the equipment.
b) Industry letter to Director-General
In order to avoid an undesirable connection being made by
SASO between the installation of the upgrade packages and
the industry letter concerning testing delays, it was thought
prudent to delay the letter until after the equipment had
been installed.
Action: Chair company to clear and circulate latest
draft.
VI. Public Smoking - Industry paper
1. The International Environmental - ETS - Management Committee
(IEMC) bad voiced concern that any industry paper or issue
document should be consistent with the CEECM document.
This last was still to be cleared by RJR.
The existing industry paper (Draft III) was too wordy and
too full of scientific details.
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170 P12
Revert to the CECCM document once this cleared by all META
companies.
2. Use of the CECCM Document
The present climate in the UAE and the GCC in general
demonstrated some realities that the industry should not contest i.e.
regular GCC anti-smoking declarations and pronouncements against
ETS: and hotel managers setting areas aside for smoking.
Rather, approaches should be made to, for example, the Technical
Committees of organisations like AACO (Arab Air Carriers
Organisation) to create a platform where discussions can be held
on cabin air quality.
Hotels should be regarded as separate targets.
Agreed;
Target workplace personnel managers.
To find separate funding for printing and translating the
CECCM document into Arabic.
Get a mailing list ready of private sector personnel
managers.
META companies to be ready by May (next meeting) to
decide whether META should take part in an international
ETS program/seminar.
Find funding for this.
Action: Rothmans (WDR), Mr. Allen and all companies.
VII. Scientific Misinformation/Industry Image
1. Trademark infrin ements Fake goods & Juvenile Smokin
Parallel with the Trademarks problem was the targeting of juveniles
inherent in the illicit actions by fake goods companies.
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