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7th Meta Meeting 900207 Minutes

Date: 07 Feb 1990 (est.)
Length: 4 pages
2025490304-2025490307
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REPT, REPORT, OTHER
MINU, MINUTES
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SANDERS,EB (TED)/SEC'Y FILES
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E10
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MARG, MARGINALIA
MISS, MISSING PAGES
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2025490282/2025490318/900000 - 501 Outgoing Mail 910000
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2025490302/0312

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Litigation
Stmn/Produced
Named Person
Allen, R.
Alsaad, B.
Cumming
Dymond
Request
Stmn/R2-038
Named Organization
Arab Standard Metrology Org
Bat, British American Tobacco
Bw, Brown & Williamson
Meta
Rothmans
Saso
Date Loaded
05 Jun 1998
UCSF Legacy ID
ukf24e00

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.. . , 7th META Meetin Tt ruar nutes - ~age 5. Secretary's Report It was appreciated that this would be a regular item at each META Meeting. In the interregnum of Secretaries, Rothmans as Chair Company reported that considerable activity had taken place tn META, most importantly that:- it (a) Scientific visits had been made to the Middle East and that some success had been recorded in changing the requirements of SASO. (b) A new Secretary was in the process of being appointed for META, after an extensive search. (c) Considerable efforts had been made in order to lmprove the communication between companies, particularly with regard to the taxation issue. / In general, there had been increasing co-operation between companies, and progress on several fronts had been made. This was due to the efforts put in by each and every company. 6. --Scientific-Matters- (a) Visits Mr. Dymond reported upon the extensive visits that have taken p'ace by scientists in the period from the last META Meeting. The most significant meeting ha6been with SASO. In interpretation of this meeting, Mr. Dymond reported on the key matters as follows:-
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7th lIETA Meeti n t e ruar Minutes - PSe (i) Levels of Additive Mr. Dymond felt that it was possible that we would have to consider 15%, although the 15% was difficult to define. It was stressed, however, that we should try and make the matter as flexible as possible, since more additives would be necessary with reducing T/N levels, and it was also important that one kept the level of additives as flexible as possible in order to protect product development. (ii) Filter Efficiency More information was being provided to SASO, although Mr. Dymond felt that a concession might have to be made on this point. Again, it was a difficult area on which to be specific. (iii) Lead and CadmiuA Progress had been made on this point, and Mr. Dymond was hopeful that this item, could be taken out or related to smoke. (iv) Densit He hoped the Industry would carry theiir point on this matter. (v) Hydrogen Cyanide There was some hope that we would get this requirement deleted f rom the specification. Other visits had taken place as follows. In January, Mr. Dymond and Mr. Cumming had visited SASO and been enthusiastically received by Badr Al Saad.
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7th META Meetin t e ruar nu es - Page __ They had also visited the Saudi-Arabian laboratory who were proposing to do a survey of the Saudi Arabia market for tar and nicotine. The laboratory propose to write to distributors in February. The laboratory had requested whether the Industry would be prepared to give financial support, and had mentioned a conditioning cabinet (approximate cost £10,000), and a machine to measure carbon monoxide. . A meeting had also taken place with the Arab Standard Metrology Organisation in Jordan. However, they were moving office and it was felt that we should make no further efforts to get close to them until their position and influence was clearer. A watching brief would meanwhile be maintained. In resultant discussion of the matter, it was agreed that:- (a) Continuing contact should be kept with SASO. To this end, a further meeting of scientists was to be held in Cologne on March 16th, and sci•en.tistswould:::re-visit Saudi~Arabia in 'early~May. (b) Each company would prepare a list of brands to ensure that they were happy with T/N levels. (c)~ BAT would co-ordinate an update of information on brands other than those produced by the Members of META, so as to be ready for the Saudi Arabian initiatives. .S /i > V (d) The policy towards'Wrk would be considered by the scientists meeting on March 16th and the next Meeting of META, dependent upon the results of the survey of other companies' tar and nicotine levels.
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7th META Meetin t h ruar nutes - ~age (e) It was resolved that the META Members would contribute towards providing a conditioning cabinet in the laboratory i'n Saudi Arabia, but not a machine to measure carbon monoxide. Timing of such an offer would be left to the discretion of the negotiators. ACTION: All Companies ' (b) Maxivw Constituent Level In discussion on the BAT Paper on this matter, it was resolved that: (i) This issue was broader than pure scientists' consideration, thus the meeting on March 16th in Cologne would be expanded to include public affairs representatives, and possibly other disciplines such as legal. (ii) Philip Morris felt that the issue of maximum constituent levels initiated from a legal standpoint. They would therefore produce a Paper on this subject. (iii) It was hoped that as a result of the deliberations at the meeting in Cologne on March 16th, a Paper on the subject would be produced for discussion at the next META Meeting. Mr. Robin Allen would co-ordinate. (iv) Brown & Wil.liamson would consider whether they wished to send a scientist to this meeting. ~ O ACTION: Philip Morris, Robin Allen and ~ all co.panies ~ CD 0 GJ C NJ

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