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11 2 3 4 5 8 10 11 12' 13 14 15 16 17 1 £3 19 20 21 24 25 54' and why she is, bccause peear group p=os.sa:: e aQc= to have worked in completely contrary r®alms, and yow are obviously geared to that, so that woiaad be part of your survey. I would assuQO. One of my questions is--stxcncturally, with your new of- fico in HEw1' that Mr. Pinney is going to head up, is that cor- rect? • Mr. Pir.rsy. Yes, sfr. Senator Schcaoikor. I3ow will you integrat+e, though, with tha National In:-tifiutc of ChiZd~ mca.l.th, because they have very s,opa:rdte procedures on pa--r rev::gws of pro j3cts like this, and I am, all for the io v-ogrztioa--bu : isn't that a prob- lem? ~ Mr. Pinnoy. It is not a p*_'ob}.em, Senator. The phiZosophon w;aS.^tn thos office is based ia oae of projQct m.amagemant. In I esseQca, tha Secretany felt that thQro was not enaugh atten- tion at his level on tlld prcb3.aza of sm king and health. Thara waa a lotgoing on in each of ttter Institutes, but the ques`cion was : aral we directing what reWou:Fons we havato tho best possible meann and ends? Ard, for examplo, with the National ~ .~ Institute of Child Health arrd'. Humaa Dsvelopimz:nt, my role woul~ ba c~n3: ofd~iscus~~aa.rnc~ with Dr. Fra~:~ch-n2r ~thatri~s pr~ogr~*~ _a1-s:~oun.^,c~~Gn t,c~~Gnt would say in tW~s of ®licitcing! good sound rQ-- sva.rch in Lhe r~rea~s tha-~ c~v have idontified as top priority. The actLa~l corat~n~: of tho reseExc b p_-oposa.x s and the pa:

56 2' 3 6 7 10 11 1z 13' 14 15' 16 18' 19 20 21 22. 23 24 25' Si7R1EAM?1~"TS', OF A PAiaE,Z!, OF IiI''nE SCHOOL SstTD-WT'S: sI3EP;RSts WOLFF AND 2r:0IR& Bt£I1LEY, TMCriF:'CtJLATA $ICE SCHOOL; MARTIId OrbiA.LT EY. MART SDLM.'S, AND' CI3AR3aE'S *G.~FFI's"B, GONZAGA COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL; AItD XAH5S VAI.EO , HETMESDA-CHEVY CI3AM SIG,1i SCHOOL SQ!nator Kennedy. Wa~ will have a paaell of high school stucLast-3 from Gonsaga Col2rsge High School, Immacula:a School aad tha Bethesda--Ch^vy Chase High School. Thxoughan over- sight, the Tra.T,aculata as:d Bnvhcsda-Clbestry Chase High Schools ware aou mentionod', on the formal w;tnQss list, but they have II.mea: euormous2y cooFarative as the young students have. We want to uc3 c=3 you to th6 C:ai :tea. I think tha Congress of the Dn:{ted Statss galZc its iaform.::iom f>om a vartet:y of' sosces. We have iui this hegisLatfou that we have . before us aow--Fre are trc:ig!g to deal with an issue wnichI than1; ia of enormoL3 coLcorn to pare.^.ts all over this country, perhaps all avur tre r.rorld--parouts whoss pearhaDs first in- tereat is tho good hralth of their childrea, parants who are ia,^rzasingZ.r concorned! about t..:L ^:ip3osion in torms of thao co:sumption of cigaratt-es. As so many scicntiiats aud ressasGh- cr.s and fa..~:a:3'y doctors ha'vca poia:ed' out-, Whc scle;•ztific i..°~for- maticn is very clzar that wc, axa rc.ay l:y hcaded for a typa of hcA3ich carastropre in t`,':is tatvir,,n if tha kinds of projections rt~?ur~ havw Wa kssn p..~ce r:.: k-%B: a 3.Q68 a•:^d 1974, amo ng young ceoplQ. Am

8 9 i0 20 21 22. 23 24 57 moog tsenag4srs, in smo!sing continues. I think all of you must have bean impressed by what some.of our_distinguis:hed researchars and doctors have pointed'out to th.is Committss. And' wo are frying, as wra should, to fi:nd' ways and maaas of working with local co;=unitios and working with you and your aasbciatss in the schools ~to try ar.d' find' out if th®re ia some way wE can work in paricnQrship to ro2ivve this g,onora- tion, this younger g~ta~~eration, of theburd.6n of smoJ.itsg. We realiza it's complexj o,a realize it involves a vari©ty of difrcreat guastio3s thati affect young peop1e--and wa want vroz-y much this morning to hear from youi, w2&y 'yoa think iss the nature of the prablemanca thra srays and means that we can tes : deal with it. So cve are very, very grateful to have you' join us hmrss l t3As morrning. Howtaany of you havo ever testific3 boforo3 W011, it's ~ aoth3ng to bc concarue3 about, uno wa.u : just to hear from you inl yo2.r owr, words. I draw your a utcint:+.on to tho charts that we have over P:ero that show im t.,':oss four disfe_~:a ::a: segmen:.o3 arcas th3 vexy si.gai {i cant growth in the numb,;:rs of regular smokers u2twcaa 196& and 1974 by caTious ago categoriQs. And we can sse #:rs tha youragest age, from 12, 13, and 14 year old, an eightfold incroaEO;' corresponding incrc!a.ses, Forhaps aot parcentage,eisc, bt^t cor"uainly' from the nlr.mbers dramatically

ss to 16 17 ii3 19 20 21 2 33 ZA 25 . , continue intha 15 aand'16 a.ra~ 27 to18-and this is, asvte can see in thG*chart that ict just behind it, at this point the gir3.s are viz~-~ay ly evmm with thca boys in terms of' use ofcfJgaacattes., 8ut nonntltulomit has be= doscribed as asa explosion in torms of the use of cigare9:tes, aad've would likr$ to try an&sort of gain yourvicws about the i!esucs. Wa would I3:ka to h,,.ar from you your own views about emn- kingm r-m are not trying to make any moral judgmen+ts obvious- ly, but we zro, fctyxnq to find out abryut--you can s`art off with your naraas, your ages, ann' wharm you go to school, and then we would like to ask you about -%r,hathar you sm-oko and whe:z did ycw sta .~ znd sc-ma other questions. I think we w3.'s1 gat started maybe over hmro with Thoa€®ss. Ta1 k is~t c o the -- mi;~,-,•s, if you wQuld, and 9 ivQ us X our r~amop ag~. ~ _ r and where you go to scliacl, justt ini_ia13:y wa will intrcduca GYurs:12vGs. I am '1od', ..~fi~:3'9.y fT.oi3 bi8.3A,2chuf3e!:L'"''.S~ S,£.'"n.'12.to'r Caafea from Mods Isla.nd, and Senator Sch-~3i.k+Qr frnm PQZn!syl- van3a., and we arn zll fr°_*,~rs of t'_hv HeaLth Subccmmittee that is coacd rned w•iti^.thislegi,slation,. .S© juct give us your name, your age, your F,chcoZ, a titrer. wo wil.,l con:e to -'raz.• of' tTMa~ questions. Niss t7al.ff. I am Th-ereee 'Rolff, I am 17' years old, and % plan on goicg to Y:3st tTirgia{'r. Fashyaz next yaa:r. . L~•cra L~~~r>a? Scnater Chafe3. I,--d you jtst graduated

59 Riss Wolff . Iuanaculata. Miss RaiLl®y., My name `ie. Xoira Reilley, I' am17 g and I have just gra,duuated from h¢mactasata Sigh School. Mr. 0'i4a.lZay. I am Martin 0'Mallvy, 15', I am a frashmaa 7 10 11 12 13 14 15 17 18 19 20 22 24 25 at Gonzaga College &igh School. Mr. Adams. I am Mark Adams, I' sm.15, I am also a fre:sh- man at Gotnzaga. Mr. Grf:ffitr. I an Ch!arZos Griffith, I am 17, I ama rt2uic+r at GQ3zzgz. Mr. Vaiwo. I am James Vaa na and I am graduating from Hathiesda-Clwsvy Cbaso High School. Senator Ef..mr_ady. Could you te11 us, mayb; by just & show of hc.uds, how many of yuu szmQ1:e? Mayba we could start wiY.h you, Tharese and Moira--wha.n did you start? Miss wOlff. fi.ror.c3 14 or 15. SArsator Zeaaedy. E'.~hat about you, Moira? F"Uss P-3i'3lEy. I5. Se,:a4:or Ja:n s? a) I f~~ . ['a3.oc. YCs, s rras 13 . Senator Yaauedy. t+';ar}.? rx. Adams. I was 13. Soaator Xehnad y. I know tliat `'s a tesy ycars ago, but do you think you could try aad vaybe tell us about why you. de- C::d:d to s4:~ ~ y to smoke or not to smoko? Was it sort of a

60 11 12 13 16 17 18 1'9 20 21 22 23' 24 conscious decisioa? Mis,s Pteilley. we2:l, basically when people start smol•,ingg ci'garettes, it is iecauso of peer p_sssurs: your friends start to smokc. A:od then it ia a choice of whether you want to- be, sort of' left out, you know, by peoplc of yo~.tx owa age lif you don• t start s~aok.irg, you kaow, thay sori of look downou you. Senator Chafse. What perce.utageof the girls in your class smoke, arould you say? A Miss R,:131sy.ZAl my class I would' say about 8!5 percent. Sc:,ator Kcnnady. tihat F-bouL you, Theresse, when you starte :' to mo3Wr??' Kis;a cFo? st. .i staar:ea s:acking mostly because I like it. I wo:.ald' say 1 sta::.tad smoking probably to fit in with the, crowd. Se, ator i:a.~zedw. Let me zsY, tY:e oo:css who do smol:e-- couzid I j sst sac yo s:.r hac;as again? How nany -of your parents smoko? E3ih yomr p~~.ra2ts siaokc?" Mr . valco. onci of mine. Sanator Keunz-e5.y. Gns of your parents. Howabout tha oocs that dou ` z sno;tQ, do your parents gmol::e or not muoY.a? Fri;x":iu, what, abQut that? Kv. O° iFmllcy . Or:c of rix pareut:s smoltes, bst ho ±'s not a c'.7z'Sisw;';3t ri::ok.aT_'i he ]us~``. has sflL'1w C:'wary onCa in a Whl ilfBl. Mr. Criffiti..`:. Eauh of -mize smoko. SL,!tELtor Md you ciozlt smobe. Flar;:, cto.lat about

2 3 4 6 14 1'5 16 61 you.. Mr . Adams. Neithar of my pa:rcnts smokes. My mofi2ier used to, but sho qu.tt.. Se.naltor F,emedy. Do your friaads thtnst at all, about tb0 2tealtii implications of smokizig, or doI you sort of think about it and think it is not going to happen to me? What kind of -a sensedoyou or any of your,frierds have about whetherit, really is goi no, to make much of a differauco in terns of' your heal'th or no w? Both your oLm view and wh3ti you bflar some of your friandQtalk abrsLt~. Mr .©"2.aZ1ey. 'np11, I would say that kids my age ar en''t really conceraed, with th& health issues, youi know; they ta11Ck about it may be. But th* main tha;_~g that they are doing it for is, you know, jiusr to fit in with the crowd. Smoking is somethlng that most a.du?'ts do:. So I P.h.ink the reason why the kids do it is just so t3z3y can get a feeling of, you know, 17 :-l:isu Feilley. l1arurity. 18' It I 19 20 21 22 24 2S 1ir. fl1i:-:41J.'0y. Yes, m3furi.ty. But I c?ou`t t.izir-k they aro rsa3.iy co: caru;,~d th:;.i: u:u.ch with the health { rauos. Sr--:ac: tor P'anr.edy. h'hat a,boca it, Jim? Ni .Valeo. Wa11, t:=hcn I fi€Ft startod to szao Ae, you know, I ia.scd' to think it cokl:dh't Qzpp": u to mo. I cotaldn"t got ill from it, ?' FTas imusZo to it or, sonsthiug. But now that I am Ilf ' old3:, I have be= thimling--T_ ~. caz: sSG how it has affected

62 my a;cility to run any length of' diBt.Gncp, you know, my wind. Senator Kennedy. Are you an athlete?' Mr. Valeo. Well, I used to run track, I usal to sprint. When I' sprrintad, it didn't make a dyffarence, because, youu 17 know, a hundred, yards--that's. nothing. But I am talking about doasn't vTorY, because th-sre ar+s too many times wbsn a cigarette tasS:es good--that's what i:, boils down to. But I amjust going going to quit amoJting, b,3causo I can sse th-- effect t3lat it has had on se as far as thal.; gooes. Sanator SchFraik+er. A:~e you going to guiw cold tcurkey, or, ho: a: e you go{ ng to quit, Jim? hs. Valao. k'ell, I hava tried Wo cut doten, a,nd it just going out to raa twolor threo miles--I 'don't know vDothar I couUdo it anymor+s without .huffing and puffing at the end off it. But aow, you know, I have made a vow to myself that I am to go all ths way, quit~ cold turkuy u.rith it, rLern. I quit. Senator Charee. Chsxles, InoticQ that you don't smoke 18' 13 and h:~th your parents smoke. Nov, are you involved inathi®- 20 , tics or what particula:r raason do you not ssaoke? 21 22 . mr. Griff3th. I didh't saoha--a lot of my friends startle C+ to smot,e back in 7th a:ad' 3~,.°~, grauos, anr1' my parents emokcd, IV i t4 be% i"3~pemrtdrdMt.~~~ aL3 I just tr`a~zt~ '~0 1,_~ . 1 23' ~'1 I ~ t~ stitiLudE of ~ i T bo S^ t F a 3: ,t you a u X._ ua Wr a': m ~ ~ ~a H 24 C!1 thw sc'-,oo1s arout th,3 smoking. Do your schools: cr3rn:.t it, doGW 25

2 3 7 63 ttaay'diiscourag+s it? Does ttat sai:e any differencQ? What about it, Moira? Miss Reill.ey. Most Catholic high schools, I would say, allow it for saniors. Our high school didn't all'ota smoking at all. Ganara:lly, most public high schools,' there's so muchh s:2oI:ing tharo is nothi'ng you can do about it.- But I would generally say that most schools allow it; thcre's hot much you caa do, so many Faorlc,isa;ak6. SGnator Rc3um-dy. What about this health issura, Th,"resra? 110 il 12 14 15 1 °' 19 20 211 2? 23 24 Do you thir.k that many of the yoUUg:sr people that get started givQ that very mjch attenticsa or much t.hough~.:, or d+o you: find cut when they got a little o1d= that tzl~qy begin to give { t more and then ara they hoo3:ed' on it, or whaQ? Miss Wolff. When you f'ir:.t start smoki.zig, it doesn'fi-- zt least sv'~th a--, ifc didn't take ®ffect unti2• lik® a couple of yssxs a,ftar, like.aow I canse3 that I can't ruaas raur.hh or parwicipz,,,c~ as much i'n activi:::.vs. I doa rt thizik they raz.33:y icolr into la, thra health coacaiticas: of ft. Senwtor Koanuz2'1. PfarI:, what do you think? Do you think t?:ce v think much a.txout th~:, hea:.th factors in tha s:.'~pkiag? W" Psp. P:riam3. VLh41, I first W:arte~H, yes, 1: thoua4t about' ~. 0l :~at. b=zt I fiaraT.--d, j oL know•,, that i wotil3n''t be smUl:iug iayNwholc Ii;es Z figured l<il:e cthe.z I' turnad 3.8 I would stop or ~, ~ som-ething z'ikra that. 0 G't' But now, as tima goes by, you know. A 25'

64 I 3 4 5 6 £anator PCsnnedy. You are thinking more about it, about trhsthiii to stop? Wh~.:t do any of you t'hia1: would ba---laave some of you thought about stopping smoking? I.at me saa a sbowof bands. How many of you thought about stopping smoking? Jirs, you thought about it. Sanator Schciaf.ker. Hra's going to do it.. Sonato, Fennc-lw. 1ttG's going to do it. What do you think 7 are :roa11y «t~e factors t'.at vrould make a diff~ncs in wh!sther you ca3 stop or not? Is it ag;zin what is laappening with your fri~,r~d~~, your colleagu~,s? Or do you think tho fact that you o a o Y * b' a t~ h 1'tU i~ t'' ti ? D* tti '~ h 1 91 10 11 v n rc ~ ~~. ~~ 6a p zca ot~ cws a,L e p you i2 r ~ 13 or a,`~co•aYage you to stop sSnokisag? = a do the m FJ1- cu tl~N n: a:~= th!s `-Mn r s that ca~ heZ' ~ost . y p 14 m 1] rs to stop? in f.arms of ae:cting tEx:znaga ,1. 15 !f . Hy ss P.!:,il1ev 2~fost 4r~nagc,,s azGn't rc, ~ 2y weZI in~`ormr~d ._ 16 f~ _. c. .. _ 11 about thehealti pro'~lc~^_~. You see co=3rci&.'1•a ard ads that I] 17 f1' in twenty years you mR ght deve2op lunv cancnr, °'`y• vou know , I" _ 18 !1 you start or somatkifng 1'ike that. But when yot~ ora young and m„ i• 3;i of th ? do 'hj t ; ff o - : t ~ you nc, ., g n r : ong Uc ~ s: y ci C r u ara 0 20 II ~ N ~u`=t t?~~n.ki:~g, aroLt now and you a.rc th3.nl:ing abou~--I will wp~ 21 1II' CD 22 24 just try smoring fbr a uhi:Ie and then quitc. ~ But you would havc tc s;:art at tho schools probably, ber- Col CJI cause t-hat is wh: r6 i^.ost people start. And if you caa stop peop:!3 from smoking at Echocl, th~-n i:hay are 'Just not going to 25