Philip Morris
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- Bacchus, J.
- Bateman, H.
- Chapman, J.
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- Dicks, N.
- Hefley, J.
- Jacobs, A.
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- Roth, T.
- Sawyer
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golf course on the other side of the island. There's a big lunch on the lawn, to
be followed by their own private golf tournament. Later, back in Washington,
Congressman Crane says he went on the trip because the largest employer in his
district is the electronics firm Motorola.
Rep., PHILIP' CRANE, (R), Illinois: The fact is, it's a working event and the-
WALLACE: A working event?
Rep. CRANE: -mornings are all working sessions. Right.
WALLACE: YouAon't consider what you were on a vacation?
Rep. CRANE: No. I' don't consider it a vacation. Vacation time, to me, is time
al'one, total relaxing down time away from the telephones- the whole thing.
That's- that~s vacation time. Here there were responsibilities every day.
WALLACE: [voice-over]'But the responsibilities that afternoon involved golf,
with each lawmaker paired with lobbyists. Crane is teamed with TRW and the
Consumer Electronics Group. Ti om DeLay, resplendent in knickers, gets Magnavox.
Tanner plavs along with Martin~Marietta, Texas Instruments, and DuPont. Critics
say this is where the industry does its real business, building personal ties to
intluential congressmen. [linterviewing] So there's a lot more going on here than
a bunch of good old boys having a game of tennis or a round of golf.
Ms. CLAYBROOK: Well, that's right4 They have access, these industries, to
members of Congress 24 hours a day for three or four days. That's a lot. You
can reallv influence someone that way, particularly when you don't hear the
other side.
WALLACE: [ivoice-over] There's another cocktail party anddinner that evening,
complete with strolling musician and plenty of food and drink. EIA says, with
special rates it gets for a big conference, it spends about $2,500 on airfare,
room. and entertainment for each congressional couple. But later, back in
Washington, McCloskey says he couldn't get the same kind of access to members on
Capitol Hill at any price.
Mr. McCLOS KEY: They're torn so many different ways that when we make- have
meetings witKmembers of Congress here, we only get them for 10 or 15 minutes.
WALLACE: But if you hold it in Florida-
Mr. McCLOSKEY: Then they'll stay for the period of the conference and we won't
have the distractions. We'll be able to focus on industry issues, and I think
it's successfut because of that.
WALLACE: [voice-over] Day four, Thursday. A 10th lawmaker, Jim Bacchus, has
arrived the night before and joins a discussion on international trade. The
final panel is on defense. According to its agenda, EIA wants less government
regulation of its business. The trip is officially ended, but members of
Congress are invited to stay on at their own expense - of course paying EIA's
reduced rates. These kinds of trips are common practice, but some lawmakers turn
them down on principle, such as Indiana's Andrew Jacobs.



constituents.
SAWYER: While, as you saw, two members of Congress talked with us about the
trip, five had no comment. Three others issued statements. Joel Hefley and Jim
Bacchus said they went on the trip to promote their home districts as good sites
for more electronics businesses. Jim Chapman said that he, quote, "would go to
the moon, if necessary, to keep Texas industries strong,and Texans employed.°'
One other note. The electronics industry says this situation is no different
than when they pay journalists to speak before their organization, though others
point out journalists are hired to give a speech and nothing more, while members
of Congress, who have been wined and dined, vote on legislation that has a
direct impact on the industry.
