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EAT Statement on the 63reen, Paper Hearinas
of 12-11 December 1984
Under the Chairmanship of Ivo Schwartz (DiG III) EAT attended
a two-day hearing called by the Commission, in Bruxelles
on 12-13th December. Two full days of discussion and
exchange of' views ensuredi oni the C'ommiIssioni''s Green Paper
'Television Without Frontiers', a 3'67 ' page report,, during
which most of' the time was spent on Section VI
( advertising ) ,
Present were representatives of EAT and each of its 6
constituent members,, the World Federation of' Advertisers,
European Association of Advertising, Agencies, European Group
of Television Advertising, Communaut6 des Associations d'es
Editeurs d'ies Journaux de: la CEE, Federation of Associationss
of Periodical Publishers in the EEC and the Advertising
Information Group, additionally, UNIC'E (Industry
Associations of' the EEC) , European, Broadcasting UniIon,
IAPPI (International InteLlectual Property Association),,.
International Bar Association, International Chamber of
Commerce, and the four main constituent members of the EEC
Consumers Consultative Committee,(BEUC (consumers) ETUC
(trades union), COFACE (family) and EUR.O-C©OP
( cooperatives) )i
On the Commission's side were representatives of DiG III, DG
X', DG XI and th~e Legali Service,, plus two special consultants
(Professors in law respectively from Munich andi Milan).

Results
The results of the discussions over the two days will be the
subject of a summary prepared by the Commission. While this
is being prepared, however, the Commission has indicated
that it is willing to receive any further comments,
information, or statistics which participants wilsh toisubmit
up to February 28th, 1985.
It should also to:be reme,mbered that further discussion days
for interested parties are being, organized by the:
Commission; particularly 16-1I7th January on the sub jeot of
copyright. Subsequent to that, the C'ommission will also:
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~ hag discussions on children and young people,,
and! the right of' reply. (All these 3 additional s.ubj'ect&
~ were included in the Green Raper.)
Throughout the meeting. many references were made to Article
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1'~0 of the i 1~#R andi p~articipants noted' that the IC'C was:
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organizing an important seminar on this subject in Paris thee
day after the copyright discussions end in Brussels (i.e.
1'8th January 1985).
The Commission's I!ntentions
Duri'ng the hearing itself, under the able1Chairmanship of Dr.
Schwartz, it was clear that the Commission eonsidered' itt
completel!y necessary to accept the opinions that the
European Parliament expressed during many debates and in the
passing of resolutions over the last 2 years. The Commission
therefore.considered it neeessary to draft a Directive.

The advertising, interests, although expressing many
reservations as to whether these problems could not instead'
be handled between broadcasters, took no.te of
Commission's intentions.
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Dr. Schwartz made it clear that it was necessary to have a
liberalizing directive because of the IDebauve case (e<sz ~`s~,~~~~"~7K~~~~~
Th~e Commi'ssion had! to deal with the situation in Belgium C~.~.., E c~
and Denmark on the basis that all 10 Member States have to ~ ).
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move towards aCommon Market and to, authorize advertising
across frontiers as well in each of'the Ten.
The adverti'~silng business was in complete: agreement with this
positive concept of liberalization and the right for
advertising, to, make its appearanoe! across all 1!0 Member
States, t Iyus-i.nes-3---Was- reement.
The Definition of "'Droadcasting"
There wa s some eonfusilon as to the d'efinition of
'broadcasting' - a matter that was mentioned several times
during the 2 days, although it was clear that rad3o
broadcasting was defilnitely included.
Participants,, and the Commission itself, felt that
greater clarity was needed to define what was andi what was
not 'broad'calsting''. Work will now start on this.
Another lesser concern was whether the Commission, had
eonsideredl the fact tha~t satellite foiotprints from outside
e the Co~mmon, MarketZwere i'n danger of negating the proposed
solutions within the Ten:. Dr. Schwartz wase quite clear, on,
behalf of' the Gommission,, that alithough this might be a
problem at present, the Commission could only tackle thee
problems with the C'omm!unity..
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T'he! Commission explained th~at the various European
Parliament and individual government pressures indicated!
that the principle of liberalization cou,ld not be left on
x its own, but required certain limitation>to be imposed. The
hearing set about discussing the Commi'ssion''s &etailede proposals for such limitations.
There were, roughly speaking, four general points of view
put forward on these limitations:-
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i) By lawyers, particularly the views of the ~1 and thee
consultant professors;
ii) by consumers expressing their views through their
respective bodies;;
iii') by advertising andi media interests (but see
(iv) below);
iv ) by newspa~pers ( C'AEJ ), an~d magazine s!( FAEP) , whose
special vilews expressed particular concern about any sudden
explosion of' the advertising market as a result of the:
liberalization programme.
Generally the views expressed by consumer bodies w~ere that
while agreeing the liberalization principle, they required
upwards harmonization, and did not accept the a~ttitudes of
x the advertisingX business, or even in some respects the
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Commission's attitude as expressed iin the Green, Paper. They
were particularly concerned about limiting the amount of
n time permitted for advertising , fearing that private
broadcasting might grow as the result of liberalization.

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Everyone agreed the general principles of' clear distinction
between 10-
programmilng and advertisements. All aSjt@p-tl that
question of' sponsoring, in all its many and varied forms,
should be further studied.
The views of advertising org;anizations, which, had been well
documented in advance, were re-expressed' according to the
comments and questionss
raised ini the debates. Those views
continued to express particular concernLabout the following
issues:-
i), Percentage of air time allowahle
ii) length of individual commercials;
iii ) natural breaks andl block advertising;
iv) length of advertising slots;
pre-vetting of commercials;
vi) advertising of tobacco;
vii) advertising of alcohal;;
vii~i) advertising to c.hildreni.
The advertising interests pressed for a de-regu.latory
policy, i~nstead of any attempt to harmonize by
standardizing the most restrictive rul!es in
the Community.
If 'harmonization upwards' were to, take place with the added
proviso at the same time th~at individual Membgr States could
ad~opt even harsher rules, the Commission would then have to
're-harmonize" on the basis of these: harsher rules in order
to avoid future distortions. This could lead neither to a

free Common Market economy, nor could it ever achieve the
Commission's stated! objective of liberalization. The
Commission stated that a poliiey of de-regulation is indeed a
viable opti'on.
Speakers from the advertising, business pointed' out that the
phrase "Common.M'arket"'not only emphasized, 'common' but also
'market'. Markets were places where competition exiisted
between, selliers, and where buyers and sellers were brough~t
together. The emphasis on a free market economy must be kept
in mind at all times. Additionally,, ilt must be! remembered
that the amount of money spent on, advertisilng was in no way
infinite but had very finite limits.
Self-Regulation
A' lengthy discussion took place on the subject of
self-regulation and its positioni vi's!-a-vis statutory
control. The C'ommission considered that, because of' some
countries' constitutional provisions, the directive should
not require statutory pre-vetting and, therefore, accepted
that it would be necessary to rely ono existing
self-regulatory systems which include pre-vetting. This
wouldl enable broadicasting, professionals to carry out the
pre-vetti~ng.

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Duri~ng the discussions at the hearing a number of issues
which were unclear in the Gommission"s G'reeni Paper were
elucidated. These included:-
A firm statement that the Commission did not intend too
differentiate between publi~c and private broadcasters!
within the context of the amount of advertising money
which theq eould! earn.
ii), T'he 'eodes" proposed by the Commission to cover
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general advertising standards, ad'vertising, to children
and advertising of alcohol would be incorporated in
thed propiosed lirective.
iii) The Commission reaffirmed! that they would not be
proposing harmonization of advertising, of product
groups other than tobacco. Given the fact that pipe
tobacco and cigars can be advertised on television in
the: UK, the Commission noted, the Advertising,
I;n-du st-W-s argument that these products should'
therefore be allowed to be advertised on TV throughout
the! Comm~unity.
Time-T'able
Dr., Schwartz gave hils opinion as to EE!C future: action to
draft, agree and implement the:
legislations.
Directive in national
He hoped that by mid-suimmer a, draft would be available for
preliminary consideration by the Council of Ministers: and
the European Parliament. In the Parliament (and the Economic
and Social Committee)' certain committees would first be
asked for their, opinions and reports prior to plenary
debate. After that, the Commission would! examine these

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opinions to decide if it should prop~ose any amendments to
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the draf~already in th~e hands of' the Council of Ministers.
It was expected that these processes would be complete: by
mid- 119180, alithough they might take longer.
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Meanwhile:, at the level of the Council of Ministers, a
somewhat similar process to that in the Parliament would be
taking place. A simillar amount of time might be.taken.
During these processes the Commission, would also be prepared
to continue its discussions with outside bodies,
particularly in the light of new technical and advertising
developments likely to occur over the next 2-3 years.
When the Counci'1 of Ministers had finally been able to: reach
agreement and a~ireativewas issued, there would theni be a
further period of time (probably 2 years) during which
national laws 1-eg!7&-tMs woul~d' have! to, be brought into
approximate.line with the,Directive.
Further detailed information, available from Mr. Alastair
Tempest, Secretary of the European Advertising Tripartite,.
28 ave. du Blarbeav, 1160' Bruxelles. Tel (02) 672 43 36 or
672 45 60.
