Philip Morris
Brookings Conference - Ets
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- Author
- Marden, R.E.
- Type
- MEMO, MEMORANDUM
- TRIP, TRIP REPORT
- Area
- LEGAL DEPT/CARLSTADT
- Named Person
- Forscey, M.
- Fritschler, L.
- Lightner, A.
- Marden, R.E.
- Mccunney, R.
- Mclaury, B.
- Rose, C.
- Schelling, T.
- H, A.
- N, F.
- Blaylock, K.
- Dunlop, J.
- Nesson, C.
- Surgeon General
- Aaron, H.
- Bean, T.
- Blakely, G.
- Cabot, L.
- Cullen, J.
- Duvall, C.
- Engelberg, A.
- Fritschler, L.
- Recipient (Organization)
- PM, Philip Morris
- Named Organization
- Amed, American Medical Association
- American Federation of Government Employ
- Brookings Inst
- Forum on the Policy Implications of the
- Gsa
- Harvard Inst for the Study of Smoking Be
- OSHA, Occupational Safety & Health Administration
- TI, Tobacco Inst
- US Gypsum
- Aclu
- American Federation of Government Employ
- Master ID
- 2015018423/8529
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- MARG, MARGINALIA
- Recipient
- Botticelli, J.
- Cullman, H.
- Knorr, G.
- Nelson, J.
- Resnik, F.
- Ruder, W.
- Scott, G.
- Scott, S.
- Smith, G.
- Zelkowitz, D.
- Cullman, H.
- Author (Organization)
- PM, Philip Morris
- Attendee (Organization)
- Brookings Inst
- Cabot
- Citizens Against Tobacco Smoke
- Federal Express
- Harvard
- Harvard Inst for the Study of Smoking Be
- Incorp Management
- NCI, Natl Cancer Inst
- TI, Tobacco Inst
- Tobacco Industry Labor Management Comm
- American Federation of Government Employ
- American Society of Internal Medicine
- Cabot
- Litigation
- Stmn/Produced
- Date Loaded
- 05 Jun 1998
- UCSF Legacy ID
- vam68e00
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PHILIP MORRIS MANAGEMENT CORP. INTER-OFFICE CORRESPONDENCE
120 PARK AVENUE, NEW VORK, N.Y.10017
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The Brookings Institution/Harvard Institute for the Study r
of Smoking Behavior and Policy forum on the policy implications
of the 1986 Surgeon General's Report on Involuntary Smoking was
held Monday, May 18 at Brookings. The forum was attended by
about 50 mostly anti-tobacco zealots, with two representatives
from the TI.
The tone of the conference was set early by Tom Schelling,
Director of the Harvard Institute, who labeled the treatment of
smokers as pariahs "one of the most stunning changes in social
phenomena in recent years". He hinted at support for a higher
excise tax because the federal tax represents only about 16
percent of the price of a pack, and seemed to encourage
audience participation that tended toward an indictment of
smoking in general, rather than response to the Surgeon
General's report, the expressed purpose of the forum. The
comments of the audience followed this lead and on a couple of
occasions attacked PM for its sponsorship of minority and
cultural activities. Shelling did, however, sympathize with
the Surgeon General's decision to speak at an AIDS hearing,
rather than at this forum.
Bruce MacLaury, Brookings President, welcomed the audience
by noting that the subject of the conference is a particularly
difficult public policy issue in that it involves a conflict
between personal freedoms and health considerations.
Per the attached agenda, following are highlights of some
of the key aspects of the forum.
The Role and Response of Organized Labor
John Dunlo former Secreta of Labor, presented a very
fair treatment of the issue. Despite the marked shift against
smoking in the workplace, it is not practical to legislate or
regulate against such. While there is merit to limiting worker
exposure to toxic substances, the diversity of workplaces,
difficulty of implementation, utility of discipline, and cost
lead to Dunlop's lack of enthusiasm for government intrusion in
the workplace on the smoking issue. He was particularly galled
by the proposed U.S. Gypsum policy.
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Ken Blaylock, President of the American Federation of
Government Employees (AFGE), also gave an even-handed
exposit on of the issue. As president of the union that
negotiated the GSA regs., Blaylock believes that smoking is
only one of many hazards at the worksite that government should
be investigating. While he continues to support H.R. 108, the
Nonsmoking Workers Protection Act, he believes that a major
part of the problem could be solved by education and adequate
ventilation. In promulgating the regs. (for which AFGE has
received very few complaints), the guiding philosophy was to
try to resolve the problem at the lowest possible level.
Michael Forsce General Counsel for the Tobacco Indust
Labor - Mana ement Committee, focussed on the passive smoking
ssue from the standpoint of collective bargaining agreements.
If the goal is to protect non-smokers from smoke, that can be
taken care of in collective bargaining; if the goal is to
eliminate smoking, it is an entirely different matter. Forscey
also discussed other aspects of the issue, including the need
for ventilation improvement, the efficacy of having policy made
at the local level, and the fact that most workers feel that
smoking is far from the most serious problem. Forscey wondered
why regulators and legislators have not taken steps against
other harmful substances, and thinks that"studies purporting to
show that restricting smoking reduces employer costs are
ineffective unless behavior out of work can be controlled. As
with the U.S. Gypsum case, this is a dangerous precedent.
Finally, Forscey emphasized that the Surgeon General's report
did not break any new ground on ETS, at least from a regulatory
standpoint.
Several remarks from the audience were particularly
noteworthy. In response to a question as to whether the labor
movement is singling out tobacco for concern, Blaylock
indicated that tobacco is a social as much as a medical issue,
since it really is no more serious than any other workplace
hazard. Forscey noted that instances in which a non-smoking
minority can dictate to a smoking majority are a direct
violation of collective bargaining agreements.
Alan Engelberg of the AMA said that since smoking is known
to be so harmful, why not just eliminate it and then focus on
other hazardous substances. While Lee Fritschler of Brookings
agreed, Dunlop argued that the issue is not whether smoking is
harmful or not, but rather how to deal with it. He said it was
nonsense to believe that you could solve another social problem
with another piece of regulation. Blaylock reiterated his
support for better ventilation systems.

In response to a comment by Joe Cullen of the National
Cancer Institute that society ought to focus on the risks of
tobacco smoke since there is such a high degree of involuntary
smoking, Dunlop argued that OSHA has limited resources to deal
with this, and Forscey claimed it presumptuous to assume that
many smokers want restrictions placed on smoking in order to
convince them to quit.
The final series of commenters took their cue from the
Salem witchhunts. Charles Duvall of the American Society of
Internal Medicine claimed that the panel had been diversionary
and that AIDS is not as important a "death threat" as
cigarettes. Robert McCunney of Cabot Corporation said that
with more than 60 carcinogens in tobacco smoke, it's a
"smokescreen" to hide behind other workplace hazards; he put
tobacco smoke in the same class as asbestos. Aaron Lightner of
Citizens Against Tobacco Smoke waged his private battle with
the tobacco industry, and asked what right it has to inflict
harm on nonsmokers. Finally, Blaylock reiterated his call for
a study of all health hazards, including tobacco smoke,
asbestos and formaldehyde, setting some standards, and not
making smokers pariahs.
The Role and Response of Management
Gerald Blakele Chairman of Innco Mana ement
Corporation, spoke to audience preferences when discussing
anti-smoking rules put into place by corporate America, calling
it "an idea whose time has come". Calling the tobacco issue
much more important than the asbestos situation, he was
optimistic about further legislation/regulation. He labelled
as "ridiculous" claims by PM that smoking restrictions are
discriminatory because a larger percentage of minority groups
choose to smoke as compared to the white population. (Nesson
agreed).
Charles Nesson, Professor of Law at Harvard, indicated that
while warning labels might protect manufacturers from liability
claims, "second-hand smokers" would be able to successfully sue
the manufacturers due to the involuntary nature of their
smoking. He expects to see relatively quick activity by the
airlines, and some judicial action this year.
Ter Bean Vice President-Human Resources Federal ~
Express, discussed the January 1988 smok ng ban to be imposed ~
at his company. Claiming that the right of employees to a }.~
non-smoking environment supercedes the right of employees to C!t
smoke, Bean indicated that this policy is simply bringing their O
managers "out of the closet", since many of them have F"h
discriminated against smokers for years. In response to an ~
audience question, Bean indicated that "the jury is still out" N
as to whether the restrictions imposed thus far have led to ~
productivity improvements, but they have improved employee
relations.

In response to another question, Nesson indicated that
policymakers are caught in a moral dilemma - trying to
discourage minorities from smoking by raising taxes, which hurt
those groups disproportionately. Nesson also expects some
favorable judgments for plaintiffs, but believes the impact
~ will be one of perception rather than economic harm to the
tobacco companies.
Aaron Lightner of Citizens Against Tobacco Smoke claimed
that airlines would be wise to ban smoking due to the added
costs tobacco smoke imposes. Bean responded that the first
major airline to ban smoking will, in this opinion, increase
its.market share permanently.
Finally, the question was posed as to what is the single
biggest impediment to imposing anti-smoking regulations. Bean
alluded to the possibility of employees thinking that the
policy is unfair, as well as questions relating to enforcement;
Blakeley said the ACLU; Nesson referred to class bias in the
open/closed office scenario.
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The Role and Response of Government
Charlie Rose delivered the essentials of remarks drafted
for him by the TI. He argued that there is insufficient cause
for government action regarding ETS because the scientific
evidence of adverse health effects is inconclusive, tobacco
smoke has become the scapegoat for indoor air quality problems,
and due to implications of unwarranted government intrusion.
Emphasizing that the public and workplace smoking movement is
politically rather than scientifically driven, Rose argued that
the Surgeon General aims to modify smokers' behavior but
doesn't seem to be as active regarding AIDS. In response to a
query from the audience that tobacco farmers ought to be
convinced to grow other crops, Rose indicated that this would
merely exacerbate the problem of cigarette companies "actively
building tobacco plantations in Brazil." And with regard to
the commissary issue, Rose claimed "I don't think soldiers
should get cheaper cigarettes."
The Role and Response of the Health Care System
Needless to say, this portion of the program was a series
of speeches calling for restrictions, higher taxes,
strengthened warnings, etc. About the only moderating
influence was the moderator himself, Henry Aaron of Brookings,
who emphasized that concern for the bottom line should be no
less relevant than concern for health.

~ Finally, I had a lengthy discussion with Brookings Chairman
Louis Cabot concerning our overall relationship with
Brookings. I thanked him for his efforts in trying to provide
a semblance of fairness to the program, but told him that it
remained a disaster from our point of view. He was apologetic
and appeared eager to try to work with us in any way possible
to restore a good working relationship. I mentioned our
previous troubles with Brookings regarding support for higher
excises, and discussed the need to have some countervailing or
moderating influences at Brookings if a good relationship is to
prevail. I believe he will try his best to satisfy our
concerns, but it remains doubtful that the ideological
C predilection of Brookings will lend itself in these areas to a
meeting of the minds with PM.
.Attached are materials distributed at the forum. If you
have any questions please let me know.
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