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atement of Ronald E 'Cape PhD .,.. President, Cetus Corporation, Berkeley, California , Before a Special Joint Congressional Hearing In Conjunction with Oversight Hearings on Science and Technology Policy` 4~•eR_ ,,e,.,,,-4,r,The Senate Subcommittee on Science, Technology and Space -~ - ~~t ,, of the Commerce, . Science and Transportation Committee -"W~ ~`-Presiding, Serator Adlai Stevenson III ., i '~ _Washington, D.C. a~ . ~ ' .Y.:.... ./ . . -'K:~. t ' . .. . .. ~ . February 14, 1978 "i ti; J I z: _, ` ~ am president of a small new company in a highlyinnovative field 7R . molecular biology - exemplified most recently by recombinant DNA activity - whicYi~ has received so much publicity lately. FZ~''~~'~~}=~+i i?rr I would offer two observations. ~^' ".:a , 3 ~6`,r":L tw First:.--As Dr fHannay pointed out, there is substantial hesitation on ., ~t the part of U.S. industry to become involved in innovative fields, and it's true~inCrecombinant DNA, too. I speak from several years'of exper- ience in trying'to~sell it. By and large the response has been,-"if the activity won't pay back the investment in two or three years, sorry, ,; we're not in'terested.".Mr.-'Chairman, whatever the complex causes, this-: attitude is a"'siibstantial departure from the imagination and guts that the public debate regarding Second: Many of us ha've participated in ..~ . regulation of recombinan't-.DNA activities held by the two subcommittees with'us here . ... . . . . -_~:. -. :~... ..~ •r~ ... , .. . . .:....~.. .. _. ..:~... . I want to say that my company very much wants f all work in• this field, including, of course, work in industry. But the point I want to make here, this morning, is that, almost without exception, those people who have been most vocal in opposing recombinant k ho want it severel restricted - those eo le are almost ' DNA wor , or w y p p unanimously and outspokenly hostile to the private sector, hostile to•: " and suspicious of industry. Some go so far as to suggest that the'best • way to develop this technology is to keep it out of the hands of industry:

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