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Departments of Labor and Health, Education. and Welfare Appropriations for Fiscal Year
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A~r. FL0OV. The subcommit~e will come to order. %Ve have the Depa~ment o~ Health~ Education, and ~Vel~are. are pleased ~ hay6 I)r. Theodore Ceoper, the Assistant Secre~ry for Health. ~o do you haw~ w~th you that you want us to know ~ Dr. C~P~,. We have a very dis}in,fished panel~ Mr. Chairman, and mem~rs of the committee, and I would ]ike to go around from left right. Dr. Donald Frcdr~ckson, the D~rcctor of the National Institute~ Health; Dr.
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- Named Organization
- American College of Radiology
- American Medical Association (physicians group)
Professional trade group representing American physicians.- American Public Health Association (Public health organization)
Professional organization for people working in public health- ASH (Action on Smoking and Health)
Action on Smoking and Health- Bureau of Health Education
- *Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW) (use United States Departmen (use @hew_dept)
- National Institutes of Health
- National Institutes of Health (NIH)
- National Medical Association
- World Conference on Smoking and Health
- American Medical Association (physicians group)
- Named Person
- Burns, David
- Cooper, Theodore S., M.D. (Surgeon, National Heart & Lung Institute, Director (1968-74))
Denied that smoking caused lung cancer in 1976, admitting only that it was a risk factor and that there was no general agreement between scientists.- Davis, Roy
- Endicott, Kenneth
- Flood, Daniel J.
- Green, Dorothy
- Miller, Charles
- Obey, David R.
- Ogden, Horace
- Renter, David J.
- Van, Robert
- Cooper, Theodore S., M.D. (Surgeon, National Heart & Lung Institute, Director (1968-74))
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DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR AND HEALTH, EDUCATION.
AND WELFARE APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR
1977
IPRm.~Y~ FF.BRUARY 20~ 1976.
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, EDUCATION, AND WELFARE
WITNESSES
DR. THEODORE COOPER, ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR
DR. DA~ ~. SENC~R, DIRECTOR, CENTER ~0R DISEASE CONTR0~
DR. J0~ ~. FINK~ DIR~CTOR, NATION~ INSTI~U~ 0~ 0CC~-
PATIO~AL S~ETY ~ HEATH
DR. D0~ALD S. ~REDRIKSON, DIRECTOR, NA~0N~ INSTITUTES
DR. ROBERT VAN ~OEK, ~CT~G ~NIST~TOR, H~TH SBV-
ICES ~M~ST~TION
3AMES D. ISBISTER, AD~STRATOB~ ~COHOL, DRUG ABUSE,
MENTAL ~ALTH AD~STRATION
D~. KENNETH M. ~NDICOTT~ ADMINISTRATOR, H~LTH RESOURCES
~INISTRAT~ON
C~RL~S MILLER, DEPUTY ~SISTANT SECRETARY, CO~PTROLLER
PETR~ J. BERSAN0, DIRECTOR, OF~I~ 0~ R~0~RC~
MENT, PUBLIC ~TH SERVICE
A~r. FL0OV. The subcommit~e will come to order.
%Ve have the Depa~ment o~ Health~ Education, and ~Vel~are.
are pleased ~ hay6 I)r. Theodore Ceoper, the Assistant Secre~ry for
Health.
~o do you haw~ w~th you that you want us to know ~
Dr. C~P~,. We have a very dis}in,fished panel~ Mr. Chairman, and
mem~rs of the committee, and I would ]ike to go around from left
right.
Dr. Donald Frcdr~ckson, the D~rcctor of the National Institute~
Health; Dr. Kenneth Endicott, th~ Administrator o~ the Health
sources Administration ; Mr. James lsblster~ the Administrator of the
Alcohol Drug Abuse~ and A[entai ~Tealth Administration? Dr. Rob6rt
van Hock, tim Ac~h~g Administrator of the Health
Administration.
Then to my right, Mr. Peter ~˘,rsano, the Direclor of our 0~
Resource Management in the Public Health Service, and t~ his right
Dr. David J. Renter, Director of the Center for Disea~ Contxol ~nd
at the far right, our distinguished colleague from tim Sec~etaryt~
0ffice, Mr. Charles Miller.
Mr. F~ou. Well, we have your biographlc~l sketch of
Cooer, and, of court, we will place that in the ~cord ~t t~is point.
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I)EPARTMEI~TS OF LABOR ANI) HEALI~I, EDUCATIOH,
AlqD WEIŁARE APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1977
HEARINGS
III~I,'ORE A
SUI~COMMITTEE 0F TilE
C0~IMI'I:TEE 0R h~ŁR0PRIATIONS
ROUSE 0F REPRESENTATIVES
NINETY-FOURTtf CONGRESS
SUBCOM.MI'~['EE ON TII~] DEPAItTMP~NT8 OF LABOR AND HEALTH,
EDUCATION, A~D WELFARE
DANIEL J. FLOOD, Pennsylvania, Ch~rm~
I,;I)WARD a. PaL'ffI'I,]N. New Jersey 81LVIO O. CONTE, Massachu~ett3
DAVID R. OBEY. Wisconsin
El)WARD R. ROYIIAL, California
JO~BPI[ D. EARLY, Massachusetts
PART 3
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, EDUCATION, AND
WELFARE:
HEALTF[ ACTIVITIES
(Excluding National Institutes of Health)
Printed for the use nf the Committee on Appvopritttions
U.S. G4~VERN~,lt~NT PRINTINR OFFICE
WASIIINGTO14 : 1976
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next year's funding. These have to do with setting up smoking
education and smo}:ing cessation clinics, and to assist Dr. Callan
on community programs.
This is the end of the second year of the program.
Last year, we had a report on the activities that were funded,
what happened and so on, and this year we have asked for an
annual report again, to review perhaps the entire 2 years, and
describe for us what has happened.
Are there any questions on this? If not, then we can
go ahead with Mr. Horace Ogden, who is here as Director of the
Mr. Ogden is ~e Director of it, and he will lead off and will
introduce ~e other ~ree m~m~ers of the staff, ~.;ho will also
present some short reports.
~. Ogden.
5~. OGDEN: Tha~ you very much, Bob. i am going to
try to do a very brief sort of stage=setting, and then let the
people who are really involved in the progr~s that you are
closely associated with talk about their a~eas of activity.
The B~reau of Health Education was formally est~!ished
just this past Septe~er, so we are about 8 months old, and the
Clearinghouse was organizationi-lly &ncorpornted into i~ and
moved geographically in October. The move was completed by the
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end of October.
• he Bureau os sort of a strange fledgling, creature
which is just beginning to, I thinh, find some of its ways of
doing business. We have about three different functions, and I
thought I would try to spell those out rather quickly, and then
get on to the substance of the cancer education, with which you
are most concerned.
We were created as an offshoot, first of all, of the
President's Committee on Health Education, and secondly, of a
task force within the Department which proposed to Secretary
Weinberger a three-part program to respond to what seemed to be
identified needs in health 4ducation of the public across the
country. One piece of the recommendations was to encoura e~.and
explore the real feasibility of creating a private-sector-based
national center for health education. We have contracted With
the National Health Council, and they are in the late stages
now of developing their recommendations for the creation of such
an entity, which would be primarily privately initiated and
financed on a basis of ongoing private support plus federal
contract involvement. I have. been very pleased with the way the
Council has gone at this assignment, and I think that in the
meeting we are ~aving at the end of this week in Atlanta we will
have quite an affirmative report to deal with. I was very
skeptical about the concept at the beginning. I bel'ieve now,
after they have been at it a year and have developed a lot of
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interest and a lot of support, I thir~ it may be for real.
The second piece of the recom~mendation was to create
a high-level advisory board within HEW to serve as an inter-
departmental panel on health education, chaired by the Assistant
Secretary and with membership from the directors, the actual
decision-making directors, of the various components of HEW,
the six health agencies, the Office of Education, the Director
of the Medical Services Administration, the Director of the
Medicare program, and several de@endencies within the Office of
~the Secretary.
This panel has thus far only met once, owing to the
fact that we had a change of horses at the Assistant SEcretary
level just at the time we were about to have our second meeting.
We are meeting later this month. The concept here is that there
should be some high level and decision-capable group lqoking
at overall problems of health education in the Department, becaus
there are "at least 50 or 60 programs which have a clear-cut.
education mission in health. Some of them are doing perhaps
too much. Some of them are clearly doing not enough. In any
case, they are fragmented and diffused.
The third piece of the action was to create a Bureau
of Health Education someplace, and it was established at the
Center for Disease Control in Spetember, as I said. Our mission
is kind of in three pieces. We are, first of all, a liaison
operation for trying to begin to make some sense out of and to
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make some interagency combinations that will do a ~ore effective
job of health education of the public than the strictly every-
man-for-himself, disease-of-the-week-clubkind of thing that
has characterized health education activities in the past in the
Department.
Our first job, which we are about nine-tenths through
with, is to really take a look at where the action is around
HEW, and w~ have been startled to find the number of different
programs and the number of different projects within programs,
all of which have some sort of at least educational intent with
respect to health', some of w~ich seem to be making a lot of
noise and doing very little, some-of which seem to be working
• very quietly and doing some quite exciting things. "
So our first job is a survey, really, of these things,
and we are in the process of getting that together, working very
closely with liaison people that have been designated to us by
their bosses, who are the administrators of the various agencies.
In NIH, Storm Whaley in the Director's. Office is our designated
liaison, but because of the close working relationships with both
Cancer and Heart and Lung Ins-titutes we have also had the
benefit of a great deal of help and support from individuals
in this room, in this group, and also their counterparts on the
Heart and Lung side.
So our first job, really, is to find out where the
action is in HEW, and begin to recommend how programs can be
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put together logically to reinforce each other rather th~n
compete with each other for school curriculum time, for media
time, for the attention of people who are being bombarded a
million times a day with different kinds of random health
messages and stimuli.
The second part of the action has been to incorporate
and continue as best we can the ongoing activities of the Nationa
Clearinghouse on Smoking and Health. As with any bureaucratic
upheaval which also involves a geographic transplantation, and
we had both of these simultaneously in this case, there are
bound to be problems of individuals' preferences in ter~.s of
working situations, and we have had, I think, a reasonably
typical experience in having some problems with .that. I think
we are now over the worst of those. We still have some very
definite gaps, and some very serious gaps, in our armamentarium
that have been created by people who chose not to come to Atlant~
with us, but I think thatthe team we do have down there is
digging in and doing a very ~ood job.
The Clearinghou~ in effect, the old Clearinghouse,
constitutes two of the three.divisions of the new Bureau. One
division is still called the National Clearinghouse on Smoking
and Health, and it is carrying on the scientific and technical
information and also public response services that the Clearing-
house initiated. This group is responsible for thi production
of the annual report to the Congress on the health consequences
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of smoking. It is responsible for running the Technical
Info~ation Center and bibliographic and library services to the
world at large, both to profassiQnal and to private citizen
kinds of audiences.
The second_piece is called the Community Program
Development Division, which indeed is what it was called when
it was within ~he Clearinghouse framework. Roy Davis, who is
"here with me today and is going to take over when i stop, is
the many who is now broadening out his interests, which have
always been pretty broad, to spearhead the contracting we are
able to do with anybody who has some innovative and kind of
exciting ideas about health education. Roy will describe briefl~
the kinds of contracts that we are"involved in this year. Many
of them are continuations, and somewhat broadened, of previous
initiatives of the Clearinghouse. Others are some new things
which we find kind of exciting, where we think some good health
education may come about.
The third piece of our bureau is a Division of Pro-
fessional Services and Consultation, which is just what it says.
People are writing us. by the thousands, many of them writing us
saying, "Send money.
~henomenon to us a11.
Project will follow", which is a familiar
But many of them are actually asking for
some help, some guidance, in designing more effective health
education activities than they have had. And we do now have a
small staff that is able to travel around the country or bring
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people into the Center to ta~: about and try to.design better
health education activities, combining different kinds of subject
matter and different kinds of techniques and methodology.
So we are partly, I hope, a contractor for innovation,
partly a scientific resource in smoking, and partly a consul-
tative source for people who feel that their.health education
efforts can be better directed.
In addition to that, we do have the overall kind of
departmental liaison function. I resist calling it a coordinativ
function, because I think "coordination" implies a degree of
control and heavy-handedness. There are very few voluntary
coordinatees in the world, and we think we can accomplish more
by working with people and beginning to show that we can be
helpful to them in developing their programs than we can if we
come down with a heavy hand from the top..
I am going to quit there, while X am ahead, and ask
Roy and then two of our other people, Dr. Green and Dr. Burns,
to talk to you about specific portions of our activities. And
then, perhaps, we should entertain questions collectively at
the end, if that is satisfactory to all of you.
Roy, are you indicating a different suggestion?
DR. DAVIS: I think the Committee is interested in
specific kinds of results, and I think the other two would be a
bit more specific than I can be.
DR. OGDEN: Okay. Dorothy, would you start? Dorothy
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Green, as you }now, is a member of the Clearinghouse staff, and
is now working here with you in the Cancer Institute. We are
delighted that she is also wor}~ing with us on our behalf with
you. Dorothy?
DR. GREEN: I am going to report very briefly on a
very specific aspect of some of the work that has been done
under this Inter-Agency Agreement that Dr. Woolridge has been
talking about.
Since 1968, there have been four surveys of teenagers.
The last of these surveys, the 1974 survey, was financed and
funded by the National Cancer Institute, ~at I would like to
tell you tod~y is just a little smattering. You have the full
report, and I would like to just tell you a little smattering
of what has been happening with teenagers since our first survey,
which was completed in January of 1968.
These surveys were national probability samples of
teenagers 12 to 18 years old, inclusive. They were conducted
in the latter part of December and the first part of January in
each case. These were not school surveys. These were really
samples of teenagers, whether they were in school or not. We
did not include any institutionalized teenagers~ During the
latter part of December, most children are home. They are home
from coliege, they are home from school, a~d therefore we had
very few t hatwe could not reach.
If you are at all interested in methodology, we used
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