RJ Reynolds
File Memo. Lunch Meeting 6/24 With Roger Beahm.
Fields
- Named Person
- Beahm, R.
- Long Haymes
- Coyne
- RJR
- Music Makers Foundation
- Sterling, C.
- Haynes, C.
- F Pat
- F Doug
- UCSF Code
- aaa15a00
- Type
- Report
- Request
- US COMPREHENSIVE REQUEST 443
- US COMPREHENSIVE REQUEST 444
- US COMPREHENSIVE REQUEST 449
- US COMPREHENSIVE REQUEST 450
- Date Loaded
- 24 Jun 2004
- 15 Jul 2004
- Depository Date
- NA
- Area
- USDOJ
- PRODUCTION 15-12
- CD
- Alias
- RJR 1667034464
- 70030 2741-2745
- Brand
- Camel
- Doral
- Salem
- Winston
- Box
- NA
Document Images
within the company.
Media and the whole brand team. Media cannot work
in a vacuum. So often, even RJR Media is not
brought into the loop until it's time for specific
direction. We need more forward-thinking
interaction. (And too often, direction comes
in the form of 'we want the most creative media
ideas, and oh -- by the way -- we need it in two
days.')
- somewhat of an
accountability/direction problem
Media agency plans/places based on brand
objective and direction; creative agency
develops 'creative ideas' for further
investigation by brand/media. Best
possible world: ideas are shared and
shared alike. However, should media
agency be accountable for developing
creative ideas -- if so, we need MUCH
more communication and vision thinking.
- When media agency has broached new, creative
design-oriented ideas, there is often not
a willing/open audience to build on the
opportunity.
- Too often, all parties are thinking short-
term. Seeds of ideas are lost due to
opportunities that are longer-term or
off-task immediately.
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- Previous attempts to generate ideas from outside
experts have been 'painful' and drawn-out due to
lack of understanding of tobacco marketing. Clear
understanding of our parameters must be basis of
assignment.
- Roger suggested that, instead, maybe Coyne-Beahm
should engage a media group as "consultant" on a
short term basis (vs. a top-to-bottom assignment)
3-months
PFI involved throughout
Next Steps:
- I suggested that, if he wants a point person
with real media knowledge at Coyne-Beahm to
spearhead this, I have a candidate in mind;
I gave the name/number to Roger.
(He called me 6/25 to say that he had
discussed it with Pat and they are
definitely pursuing this candidate.)
- Roger wants to discuss with Doug; we'll get
back together next week or so.
- Roger gave me his list of consultant ideas;
I'll add/edit and get back to him.
Bottom line:
I believe that what we have is:
- a communication problem.
Creative agency's ideas are not being shared/
given the opportunity to be built on by the
media agency. Perceived adversarial relationship
is a real stumbling block that must be fixed.
- There needs to be a distinction between creative
use of media, resulting in "non-traditional"
communication and real "new media forms." Recent
proposals by C-B are simply creative twists on
media exposure opportunities that have been looked
at previously and are not really "new media."
Between Media and RJR Management. Too many
ideas have been lost by short-term rejection
("No money") and not exposed to a broader audience
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Roger's perspective:
2) DORAL is given short shrift in terms of idea generation...
not as "important" as WINSTON, CAMEL; not as intensely
understood and advocated by LHC.
- Another myth which must be dispelled.
- Separate media planning groups/'brand stewards'
in both RJR and LHC Media groups to assure that no
brand is 'favored'
- Tracking reports (eg positioning/covers) separate by
brand, again to assure fair placement/no 'favoritism'
- Frankly, more "unique" vehicles and recommendations
are made on behalf of DORAL because the target audience
is well defined and understood.
3) LHC is good at "traditional" media -- print, OOH. However,
not as good at generating new ideas/new media forms/out-
of-box thinking.
In fact, LHC has and does recommend many unique
non-traditional exposure opportunities.
- We have the benefit of a wide network of contacts
due to RJR's reputation for seeking, developing unique
media. (And Carl's/Carol's close and on-going ties to
RJR.) New ideas tend to come to them first from a
variety of outside sources. If someone else has an
idea (LHC is very open to any and all ideas and brain-
storms), LHC has the contacts to investigate resources
and develop prototype.
- e.g., SALEM Smoke Lamps (permanent fixtures in
bars which ventilate smoke; designed as an orb.)
Many opportunities presented go far beyond "media"
often include promotion, direct marketing, product
placement elements.
- e.g., check cashing outlets
- Non-traditional forms are developed both:
1) in general (no specific brand in mind until the
idea is deemed worth pursuing/viable, at which time it
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is presented to RJR Media and to the planning group for
most-appropriate brand application/refinements)
2) specifically for a brand (with objective/strategic
needs in mind.)
UNFORTUNATELY, most of the non-traditional opportunities
presented are rejected -- usually at the brand manager
or assistant level. Therefore, VP+ levels are never
exposed to the quantity of real ideas explored. (A few
ideas, exposed to Task Forces, have been roundly ignored
as well, with no feedback.)
4.) An outside media group should be tapped to generate and
execute non-traditional ideas, to develop a "new medium"
- The more ideas the better! However, there needs to
be some clear direction about what is considered "new
media"
e.g., the ideas C-B recently presented for
DORAL are NOT "new/non-traditional media"
Auto trader publications, yellow pages
phone book signage -- these are not
new ideas. All have been looked at
over the years and rejected.
- The ideas presented are really creative
ideas...and creative ideas -- if Media
- Roger agreed and said that these are NOT the
kinds of ideas he would propose for an
outside agency to generate.
- Why the whole ball of wax? (generate and execute?)
Where is the benefit for RJR?
- Dollars MUST BE considered, and it is highly
unlikely that any program can be
developed/implemented more efficiently than
through LHC.
- Back-end administration is critical for our
business (as well as checks/balances that
assure all legal contraints are adhered to.)
This is a reality that must be considered in
any outside assignment.
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FILE MEMO
LUNCH MEETING 6/24 WITH ROGER BEAHM
Roger's perspective:
1) LHC has a`problem' working with C-B because they are
competitors and C-B took away the Doral business.
- Need to dispel this thinking. It's absolutely
not true.
- LHC RJR Media Group is organized as a
`s~and-alone' entity separate from balance
of agency. Success relies on their being
absolutely objective among brands...the
client is RJR. Not even in same building.
- Compensation in no way tied to the account/
creative contracts with LHC. Not fee based.
Calculated on RJR spending, not on individual
brand basis.
- Example of LHC Media's objectivity vs. rest of
LHC Agency: Rolling Stone Blues
insert and bar event program was recommended for
CAMEL. (LHC Media does not communicate with WINSTON
account/creative areas separately from media/brand
meetings. Therefore, the Media group did not know
that WINSTON was developing their Blues
program/advertising nor the pending tie-in with
Music Makers Foundation!)
(Luckily, I had heard the WINSTON brand discussing
this and recognized that the opportunity was right
for WINSTON, not CAMEL.)
Frankly, most of the people in the media planning
group, certainly those assigned to DORAL Media
planning, don't even know that LHC once had the
creative assignment for the brand. And the
supervising personnel (C.Sterling/C.Haynes) have
a unique overall-RJR orientation vs. brand-specific
orientation.
Roger acknowledged that this "bias" may be in his own head,
therefore, stifling the productive communication and idea-
sharing between everyone working on DORAL.
Next step: Roger, Carol Sterling (and me) to have lunch and
discuss frankly. Determine how they can work together better.
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