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Round-table Discussion on Cancer, The Environment and The News Media, New York, Feb. 8, 1985
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- Time Magazine
- Institute of Environmental Medicine
- National Cancer Institute
- Institute of Environmental Medicine
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- Angier, Natalie
- Albert, Roy
- Upton, Arthur
- Muggia, Franko
- Gomez, Max
- KTW-TV
- Bishop, Jerry
- Edelson, Edward
- Albert, Roy
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- Zahn, Leonard S.
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- Gertenbach, Robert F.
- Stevens, A. J.
- Case
- Butler
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February 19, 1985
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SUBJECT: Round-table Discussion on Cancer, The Environ-
ment and The News Media, New York, Feb. 8, 1985.
This sparsely attended session purportedly was held to pro-
vide a forum for scientists and journalists to express their
views of the problems involved in covering cancer and the envi-
ronment. It also provided a forum for at least.one member of the
audience to attack the tobacco industry with views supported,
and prompted by, the comments of panelist N.~~ER,
sciehce and environment writer for Time Magazine.
In her opening remarks, she said tobacco was the largest
single cause of environmental cancer. The less that's written
about smoking, the more likely people are to smoke. The problem
is that there isn't much "new" news about the dangers of smoking
and so it's difficult to get stories printed. She also inveighed
against the tobacco industry's influence over media coverage on
smoking and health because of its advertising power. (This theme
was picked up by some of the other journalists, but to a lesser
extent and also with reference to other industries involved in
environmental health situations.)
Perhaps the most reasoned comments of the day were from ROY
ALBERT, deputy director of the Institute of Environmental Medi-
cine (IEM) at New York University (where the discussion took
place).
Without mentioning tobacco, Albert noted:
The dose-response relationship is the only way to try to un-
derstand the mechanisms of carcinogenesis. Unfortunately, "we
really don't know" what the mechanisms are. Oncogenes comprise a
promising field, but we're not at the point where we know enough
about causation even by "the oncogene route" to be able to know
what the shape of the dose-response curve will be.
There's much uncertainty in estimating the amount of cancer
that's likely to be caused by levels of environmental exposure
that are commonly encountered. There are major uncertainties and
considerable controversy over the risk assessment approach to
evaluating environmental carcinogens. The identification of car-
cinogens is slow and costly. Evaluating agents identified by
bioassay is controversial because of powerful conflicting inter-
ests -- industry vs. environmentalp groups.
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There's no such thing as a threshold because every agent has
some effect. It's impossible to eliminate carcinogens completely
unless there's a full ban on everything.
The environmental carcinogens that have been identified ac-
count for only a "very tiny" fraction of cancer. Because of
media coverage, the public is fed up with "the cancer of the
week." Actually, very few carcinogens have been identified.
~here are all the carcinogens that are causing cancer? Is
diet a major factor? What carcinogens can be included here? The
fact is we haven't scratched the surface in finding the agents
that cause a substantial number of cancers.
ARTHUR'UPTON, director of the IEM and former head of the
~at!ona! Cancer Institute, gave a general rundown of the envi-
environmental cancer picture, not omitting the smoking aspect.
There's still speculation about the major causes, he said in
citing the Doll-Peto data Isomething can be done about the 30%
or so of cancers caused by smoking.) Occupational factors prob-
ably don't account for much cancer.
There's still considerable controversy, uncertainty and
confusion about cancer and the environment.
FRANCO MUGGIA, head of the oncology division at NYU School of
Medicine (and a last-minute replacement), spoke from the clini-
cian's standpoint, mentioning a variety of factors and personal
habits as being involved (smoking, the sun, alcohol, excess cof-
fee intake, etc.}.
~Vhen the discussion was opened to the audience, one man there
assailed the tobacco industry as muzzling press coverage of
smoking and health through its advertising dollars. He said half
the people in the U.S. don't know that smoking causes cancer, a
point picked up by journalist MAX GOMEZ, now ~ealth and science /
editor of KTW-TV, Philadelphia.
Gomez said he didn't know what h~ could do about that. He
reports on smoking and healt5 "every chance I get," but there
are times when he worries about crossing the line between
education and advocacy.
JERRY BISHOP, medicine writer for the Wall Street Jo~.rnal,
and EDWARD EDELSON, science editor of the New York Daily News,
had little in the way of original contributions.
Bishop, who moderated the discussion, said that negative
stories rarely are printed. Edelson, the most cynical member of
the panel, said most newspapers deliberately have inadequate
news coverage in order to maintain advertising revenues.
~ sessi~'nn w~s supported by a grant from Rea~er's Digest. i_~
the panelists, o~r at least the ~ress p~o~le~ ~ot severa
red dollars each for ~hei~ participation.
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