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STATEMENT OF REP. BOB CLEMENT OF TENNESSEE
BEFORE THE
HOUSE COMMITTE)E ON WAYS AND MEANS
ON THE ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSED HEALTH SECURITY ACT
NOVEMBER 18, 1993
MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE:
IT IS AN HONOR TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU AND I THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY VIEWS ON ONE ASPECT OF THE FINANCING
CONTAINED IN THE PRESIDENT'S HEALTH SECURITY ACT.
HEALTH CARE REFORM IS AN ISSUE OF UNPARALLELED IMPORTANCE TO
OUR FELLOW CITIZENS AND THE COMMITTEE'S HEARINGS ARE AN IMPORTANT
PART IN THE PROCESS OF'FASHIONING A LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE THAT WILL
ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. AS THE PRESIDENT STATED IN HIS REMARKS
TO US IN STATUARY HALL, HEALTH CARE REFORM IS AN ESPECIALLY COM-
PLEX ISSUE AND ANY SOLUTION MUST BE APPROACHED WITH BOTH COMMON
SENSE AND FAIRNESS AS WELL AS VISION AND FAITH.
I THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR RAISING FOR DISCUSSION QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE FINANCING OF THE ADMINISTRATION'S REFORM PACKAGE. AND
I THANK YOU FOR ASKING, IN PARTICULAR, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FAIR-
NESS OF THE EXCISE TAX INCREASES PROPOSED FOR TOBACCO PRODUCTS.
MUCH ATTENTION HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON THE PROPOSED 75 CENT IN-
CREASE IN THE FEDERAL EXCISE TAX ON CIGARETTES. INDEED, TOBACCO,
PARTICULARLY BURLEY TOBACCO, WAS THE NUMBER ONE CASH CROP IN THE
STATE OF TENNESSEE. RECEIVING LESS ATTENTION, BUT NO LESS ONER-
OUS OR IMPORTANT, IS THE PROPOSAL TO INCREASE THE EXCISE TAX ON
SMOKELESS TOBACCO PRODUCTS.
AS YOU MAY KNOW, I HAVE THE HONOR OF REPRESENTING IN CON-
GRESS NOT ONLY THE COUNTRY MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, NASHVILLE,
TENNESSEE, BUT ALSO THE DARK FIRED AND DARK AIR CURED TOBACCO
CAPITAL OF THE WORLD - ROBERTSON COUNTY. I REPRESENT MORE THAN
2000 FARMS THAT GROW DARK TOBACCO AND THE REGION STRETCHING NORTH
AND WEST OF NASHVILLE INTO SOUTHERN KENTUCKY GROWS MORE-OF THESE
TYPES OF TOBACCO THAN ANY OTHER PLACE IN THEVORLD. THESE TWO
TYPES OF TOBACCO ARE USED IN SMOKELESS PRODUCTS - SNUFF, CHEW,
PIPE TOBACCO AND CIGARS. SNUFF AND CHEWING TOBACCO ARE PRODUCED
IN A MANUFACTURING PLANT IN NASHVILLE THAT EMPLOYS 423 INDIVI-
DUALS. CONSEQUENTLY, ANY POLICY WHICH AFFECTS THE PRICE OR
AVAILABILITY OF SMOKELESS PRODUCTS IS A SOURCE OF GREAT CONCERN
TO ME AND MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS.
AND BELIEVE YOU ME, THE PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL TO INCREASE THE
TAX ON CHEWING TOBACCO BY 10,417 PERCENT, THE TAX ON SNUFF BY
3,472 PERCENT, THE TAX ON CIGARS BY 3,333 PERCENT AND THE TAX ON
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PIPE TOBACCO BY 1,850 PERCENT, IS A SOURCE OF GREAT CONCERN. FOR
A WHILE, MY INITIAL REACTION TO THE PROPOSAL WAS THAT IT DID NOT
PASS.WHAT WE IN NASHVILLE CALL THE "HEE-HAW" TEST. AND WITH ALL
DUE RESPECT TO MY FRIENDS AT THE NASHVILLE NETWORK, I KNOW THE
HEE HAW TEST AND, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS PROPOSAL IS NO HEE HAW! IN
ALL SERIOUSNESS, THE PROPOSAL IS OF GREAT CONCERN. TRANSLATED
INTO DOLLARS AND CENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TAX ALONE ON A TIN OF
SNUFF WOULD INCREASE FROM 3 CENTS TO 97 CENTS. THE TAX ON A
POUCH OF CHEWING TOBACCO WOULD INCREASE FROM 2 CENTS TO $2.34.-
THE PROPOSAL IS ALSO A SOURCE OF GREAT CONSTERNATION FOR THE
WHITE HOUSE HAS NOT PROVIDED AN ADEQUATE EXPLANATION FOR ITS PRO-
POSAL. IN FACT, I QUESTION WHETHER THE WHITE HOUSE UNDERSTOOD OR
APPRECIATED THE PERCENTAGE INCREASES THEY WERE ASKING WHEN THEY
TRIED TO "EQUALIZE" THE TAX ON CIGARETTE AND SMOKELESS TOBACCO.
THE WHITE HOUSE HAS NOT EXPLAINED ITS RATIONALE FOR ABAN-
DONING DONING THE PROPORTIONAL PERCENTAGE APPROACH BETWEEN SMOKELESS AND
CIGARETTE TOBACCO ADVOCATED BY TAX EXPERTS AND ADOPTED BY PAST
CONGRESSES. AS YOU KNOW, THIS WELL-REASONED TRADITIONAL APPROACH
RECOGNIZES THAT THERE IS NO RELEVANT DEFINITION OF EQUIVALENCY
BETWEEN CIGARETTES AND SMOKELESS TOBACCO PRODUCTS.
THE TRADITIONAL APPROACH RECOGNIZES DIFFERENCES IN WEIGHT
DUE TO THE MOISTURE OF MANY SMOKELESS PRODUCTS AS COMPARED WITH
CIGARETTE TOBACCO. IT ALSO RECOGNIZES DIFFERENCES IN THE SIZE
AND WEIGHT OF PACKAGING, DIFFERENCES DUE TO TYPE AND VALUE ADDED
AMONG VARIOUS TYPES OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS. THIS DIFFERENTIAL IS
FURTHER RECOGNIZED BETWEEN SOME SMOKELESS PRODUCTS, LIKE SNUFF
AND CHEW. AS SUCH, THE PROPORTIONAL APPROACH HAD A COMMON SENSE
RATIONALE, TAX EQUITY AND A DEGREE OF FAIRNESS TO IT. BY CON-
TRAST, THE UNDERLYING RATIONALE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOM-
MENDATION IS NOT EVIDENT, UNLESS BEING PUNITIVE OR CONFISCATORY
IS THEIR RATIONALE.
SOME HAVE SUGGESTED THAT THE RATIONALE IS TO DETER UNDERAGE
INDIVIDUALS FROM USING CIGARETTES AND SMOKELESS PRODUCTS. IF
THIS IS INDEED THE PRESIDENT'S OBJECTIVE, IT IS ONE WE ALL SHARE.
BUT WOULDN'T ENFORCEMENT OF EXISTING FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS BE A
BETTER MECHANISM TO PREVENT SUCH SALES. I WOULD POINT OUT TO THE
COMMITTEE THAT RECENT HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES REPORTS SHOW THAT
USE BY UNDERAGE INDIVIDUALS DECLINED BETWEEN 1991 AND 1992.
ACCORDING TO AN HHS REPORT, "HEALTHY PEOPLE 2000 REVEIW," THIS
DECREASING TREND IS APPROACHING AND VERY CLOSE TO THE YEAR 2000
GOAL OF 4 PERCENT USE BY INDIVIDUALS UNDER THE AGE OF 18.
IN A RECENT LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT, I ASKED IF HE WAS FULLY
APPRISED OF THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES OF HIS RECOMMENDATION ON
NOT ONLY THE GROWERS OF MY REGION AND THOSE WHO WORK AT A PRO-
CESSING PLANT IN NASHVILLE, BUT ALSO ON THE SMOKELESS TOBACCO
INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE. IN AN INDUSTRY WITH ONLY $1.5 BILLION IN
TOTAL SALES LAST YEAR, IT IS DIFFICULT TO SEE HOW DETERRING USE,
AND PRESUMABLY LOWERING SALES, ON THE ONE HAND, AND RAISING TAXES
BY THESE ASTRONOMICAL PERCENTAGES ON THE OTHER, WILL LEAD TO THE
$500 TO $800 MILLION ANNUALLY IN NEW REVENUE WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL-
LY DISRUPTING THE LIVES OF-PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH SUCH A SMALL
INDUSTRY. I AM SKEPTICAL THAT THESE REVENUE TARGETS CAN BE
REACHED, PARTICULARLY IF CONSUMPTION DECLINES. WILL FURTHER TAX
INCREASES BE NECESSARY IN LATER YEARS?
FOR THE AVERAGE TOBACCO FARMER IN MY DISTRICT, THE EFFECT OF
THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE WILL BE TREMENDOUS. ONE IMMEDIATE IM-
PACT WILL LIKELY BE ON WHETHER THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE WILL
BE ABLE TO CALCULATE NEXT YEAR'S TOBACCO QUOTA. WILL SALES DE-
CLINE 3 PERCENT? 5 PERCENT? OR MORE OR LESS? THERE IS NO EX-
PERIENCE ON WHICH TO ESTIMATE PRICE ELASTICITY OF SMOKELESS PRO-
DUCTS. OVERESTIMATE THE CONSEQUENCE OF THE TAX INCREASE, AND
IMPORTS WILL GO UP TO MAKE-UP THE SHORTFALL IN DOMESTIC PRODUC-
TION. CURRENTLY, THE INDUSTRY PURCHASES OVER 99 PERCENT OF THE
DOMESTIC DARK TOBACCO GROWN. UNDERESTIMATE THE CONSEQUENCE AND
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FARMERS WILL BE STUCK PAYING A NO-NET-COST ASSESSMENT AS EXCESS
TOBACCO ENDS UP IN THE POOLS. UNDER EITHER SCENARIO, OR SIMPLY
VIEWED FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF DECLINING SALES, FAMILY FARM
INCOME IS LIKELY TO DECLINE.
A RECENT STUDY ASSUMING A 3 PERCENT DROP IN CONSUMPTION
SHOWS THAT THE PROJECTED AFTER-TAX PRICE INCREASES IN SNUFF WILL
REDUCE DEMAND BY 2.63 MILLION POUNDS OR 11.4 PERCENT. DEMAND FOR
CHEWING TOBACCO IS EXPECTED TO BE REDUCED BY 1.32 MILLON POUNDS
OR 39 PERCENT. ALTHOUGH THE NUMBER OF POUNDS USED FOR CIGAR AND
PIPE TOBACCO IS SMALLER, THE REDUCTIONS ARE STILL 18 AND 30 PER-
CENT RESPECTIVELY.
TRANSLATING THESE REDUCTIONS INTO LOST FARM VALUE, FARMS
GROWING DARK FIRE TOBACCO WOULD LOSE BETWEEN 6.3 AND 10.4 PERCENT
OF VALUE. FARMS GROWING DARK AIR CURED TOBACCO WOULD LOSE BE-
TWEEN 18.9 AND 31.8 PERCENT OF VALUE.
IF THESE PROPOSED TAXES WERE TO BECOME LAW, THEY WOULD RE-
SULT IN A DEVASTATION OF THE FARMING COMMUNITY AND THE INDUSTRY.
THE $45 MILLION CONTRIBUTED BY DARK TOBACCO TO THE LOCAL TENNES-
SEE AND KENTUCKY ECONOMIES WILL ALSO DECLINE. JOBS ASSOCIATED
WITH THE PRODUCTION, MARKETING, PROCESSING AND MANUFACTURING OF
THESE PRODUCTS WILL BE LOST AND TAX REVENUES FOR STATES REDUCED.
MORE SIGNIFICANTLY, THE ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSED TAX IN-
CREASES FALL DISPROPORTIONATELY.ON THE SOUTHERN REGION OF OUR
COUNTRY. FARMERS ARE CONCENTRATED IN JUST 4 STATES - KENTUCKY,
TENNESSEE, WISCONSIN AND PENNSYLVANIA, WHILE THE GREATEST EFFECT
ON DISPOSABLE INCOME IS CONCENTRATED PRIMARILY IN 12 STATES, ALL
IN THE SOUTH. IN FACT, CONSUMERS IN THE SOUTH WOULD PAY ONE HALF
OF THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE.
WHICH ONE OF US WOULD WANT TO PLACE EITHER A REGION OF OUR
COUNTRY OR A SECTOR OF OUR ECONOMY WITH SUCH A BURDEN WHEN, IN-
DEED, IT IS ENTIRELY PREVENTABLE?
MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, GROWERS ARE AS
DECENT, HARD-WORKING AND LAW-ABIDING AS ANY PEOPLE. GROWING
TOBACCO IS BACK-BREAKING, LABOR INTENSIVE WORK. THE PEOPLE WHO
WORK IN THE MANUFACTURING PLANTS ARE SIMILARLY DECENT AND HARD-
WORKING. YET WE LOOK AT THESE PEOPLE AS PARIAHS, PURVEYORS OF A
PRODUCT WHICH I MIGHT REMIND YOU IS ENTIRELY LEGAL.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I KNOW OTHERS WILL ADDRESS THE MANY OTHER
ISSUES THIS PROPOSAL RAISES, INCLUDING THE CONSEQUENCE ON STATES'
REVENUE SOURCES AND THE PRESUMED SOCIAL COST OF TOBACCO USE.
FOR SMOKELESS TOBACCO, WE ASK SIMPLY THE COMMITTEE TO RE-
STORE FAIRNESS. REINSTATE THE TRADITIONAL PROPORTIONAL RATE
DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN SMOKELESS PRODUCTS AND CIGARETTES. THE
COMMITTEE HAS WISELY USED THIS APPROACH IN THE PAST AND I HOPE
YOU WILL USE IT HERE, SHOULD YOU INCLUDE TOBACCO EXCISE TAX
INCREASES AS A FINANCING MECHANISM FOR HEALTH CARE REFORM.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU MY VIEWS.
