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STATEMENT OF
ROBERT J. CARBONELL
SENIOR EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT
OF
RJR NABISCO, INC.
BEFORE THE HOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE ON-TOBACCO & PEANUTS
JUNE 11, 1987

MR. CHAIRMAN, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE SUB-COMMITTEE, I AM
ROBERT J. CARBONELL, SENIOR EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF RJR
NABISCO, INC.
I AM HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF OUR SUBSIDIARY, THE R. J. REYNOLDS
TOBACCO COMPANY. I APPEAR BEFORE YOU AS THE SENIOR EXECUTIVE
OFFICER OF RJR NABISCO, INC. WITH OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITY FOR
RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT AND QUALITY ASSURANCE. I HOLD A DOCTORATE
DEGREE IN PHARMACEUTICAL CHEMISTRY AND HAVE DONE POST-GRADUATE
WORK IN AGRICULTURAL AND FOOD BIOCHEMISTRY. IN MY 35 YEARS OF
PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CLOSE TO AGRICULTURE
AND HAVE PARTICIPATED IN MANY PUBLIC ISSUES RELATING TO FOOD
SAFETY, SUCH AS THE CONTROL OF AFLATOXIN ON PEANUTS AND ETHYLENE
DIBROMIDE RESIDUES IN GRAINS. I AM FIRST VICE PRESIDENT OF THE
FOOD INDUSTRY SAFETY COUNCIL, AN INDUSTRY ORGANIZATION
SPECIFICALLY CONCERNED WITH THE SAFETY OF OUR FOOD SUPPLY.
FINALLY, I AM CHAIRMAN OF THE DEL MONTE CORPORATION, WHICH IS ONE
OF THE LARGEST GROWERS AND PROCESSORS OF FRESH FRUITS AND
VEGETABLES IN THE UNITED STATES.
OUR COMPANY APPRECIATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THESE HEARINGS CAN DO A GREAT DEAL TO HELP
RESOLVE AN ISSUE FACING THE ENTIRE U. S. TOBACCO INDUSTRY.
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CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE READ OR HEARD IN THE MEDIA
REGARDING ONE OF OUR CIGARETTE PRODUCTS IN JAPAN, THIS INCIDENT
DID NOT INVOLVE ANY HAZARD TO HUMAN HEALTH, ANY PAKISTANI
TOBACCO, OR ANY ILLEGAL OR UNETHICAL BUSINESS PRACTICES BY OUR
COMPANY.
BANVEL, OR ITS ACTIVE INGREDIENT, DICAMBA, SIMPLY ARE NOT A
PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. DICAMBA'S MISUSE ON U.S. TOBACCO AS A
SO-CALLED "RIPENING AGENT" IS, HOWEVER, AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE
PROMPTLY ADDRESSED IF WE ARE TO PRESERVE THE REPUTATION AND
INTEGRITY OF U.S GROWN TOBACCO MARKET. WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT OUR
GROWERS RECOGNIZE THAT'PROBLEM AND ARE TAKING POSITIVE STEPS TO
ADDRESS IT.
AS BACKGROUND, OUR ORIGINAL PLAN WITH RESPECT TO THE JAPANESE
CIGARETTE WAS TO MANUFACTURE THIS PRODUCT IN EUROPE FOR EXPORT TO
JAPAN. HOWEVER, AS A RESULT OF SUCCESSFUL TRADE NEGOTIATIONS
WITH THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT, THANKS TO YOUR SUPPORT AND THAT OF
OTHERS, IN OCTOBER OF 1986 TARIFF RESTRICTIONS WERE RELAXED FOR
U.S. MANUFACTURED CIGARETTES EXPORTED TO JAPAN.
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THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHEN COUPLED WITH MANUFACTURING AND CURRENCY
EXCHANGE CONSIDERATIONS, LED TO THE DECISION TO PRODUCE THIS NEW
PRODUCT IN THE U. S. -- AS AN ASIDE, IF THIS PRODUCT HAD BEEN
MANUFACTURED IN EUROPE AND EXPORTED TO JAPAN, THERE WOULD HAVE
BEEN NO ISSUE BECAUSE JAPAN AND GERMANY DO NOT HAVE ANY
RESTRICTIONS ON THE IMPORTATION OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS CONTAINING
DICAMBA.
IN LATE 1986, OUR GERMAN SUBSIDIARY BEGAN SHIPPING BLENDED
TOBACCO TO R. J. REYNOLDS TOBACCOUSA, OUR DOMESTIC COMPANY, FOR
MANUFACTURE OF A NEW PRODUCT TO BE INTRODUCED IN JAPAN IN
APRIL. EIGHT SUCH SHIPMENTS WERE MADE. THE BLEND HAD BEEN
DEVELOPED AND SELECTED SPECIALLY FOR THIS PRODUCT BY OUR GERMAN
SUBSIDIARY, AND CONTAINED TOBACCOS PURCHASED BY OUR GERMAN
SUBSIDIARY FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT COUNTRIES INCLUDING THE UNITED
STATES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, OVER A THIRD OF THIS BLEND WAS
MADE UP OF U. S. GROWN TOBACCOS.
THE FIRST FOUR SHIPMENTS OF THIS TOBACCO BLEND ARRIVED IN THIS
COUNTRY AND WERE SPOT-TESTED BY THE USDA FOR PESTICIDE CONTENT.
WE WERE ADVISED BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE THAT THESE
SHIPMENTS MET THE PESTICIDE TOLERANCES ESTABLISHED IN AUGUST,
1986, FOR FLUE-CURED AND BURLEY TOBACCOS IMPORTED INTO THE
UNITED STATES.
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SUBSEQUENTLY, THE USDA NOTII'IED OUR COMPANY THAT THEIR TESTS ON
ADDITIONAL SHIPMENTS WE HAD RECEIVED OF THIS'BLEND INDICATED THE
PRESENCE OF DICAMBA IN THEIR SAMPLES ABOVE PERMISSIBLE LIMITS.
FURTHER MANUFACTURING OF THE PRODUCT WAS HALTED, AND WE
CONDUCTED OUR OWN TESTS ON SAMPLES OF THIS TOBACCO, WHICH ALSO
SHOWED DICAMBA RESIDUES ABOVE THE PERMISSIBLE LIMIT.
ALTHOUGH WE KNEW THAT DICAMBA WAS NOT'A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE, ITS'
PRESENCE IN OUR JAPANESE CIGARETTES IN EXCESS OF PERMISSIBLE
LEVELS ESTABLISHED FOR LEAF IMPORTED INTO THE U. S., AND OUR OWN
COMPANY STANDARDS THAT ENSURE THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO QUESTION
AS TO THE QUALITY OF OUR PRODUCTS, CAUSED US TO ORDER OUR
JAPANESE SUBSIDIARY TO DETAIN AND SEGREGATE IN BONDED WAREHOUSES
ABOUT 16,000 CASES OF THE PRODUCT THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN SHIPPED
TO JAPAN.
PRODUCT THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN MANUFACTURED, BUT NOT SHIPPED, WAS
ORDERED HELD IN OUR U. S.. FACILITIES, AS WAS THE UNUSED PORTION
OF THE TOBACCO FROM THESE SHIPMENTS.
WE THEN MANUFACTURED TOTALLY NEW BATCHES OF CIGARETTES IN OUR
U.S. PLANT, USING A DIFFERENT BLEND, AND SHIPPED THEM TO JAPAN
TO REPLACE THE EMBARGOED INVENTORIES IN TIME FOR THE APRIL
INTRODUCTION INTO THE JAPANESE MARKET.
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REGRETFULLY, WE LEARNED LATER ON THAT BEFORE OUR ORDERS TO HOLD
THE PRODUCT WERE RECEIVED IN JAPAN, APPROXIMATELY 100 CASES OF
CIGARETTES HAD BEEN PULLED FROM THE INITIAL SHIPMENTS FOR
INTERNAL QUALITY CONTROL USE AND FOR PROMOTIONAL FREE SAMPLES TO
JAPANESE RETAILERS.
IN THIS PROMOTION, JAPANESE RETAILERS WERE GIVEN ONE OR TWO
PACKS EACH AS AN INTRODUCTION TO THE NEW BRAND IN ADVANCE OF
MARKET LAUNCH. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE WERE, AND
THERE ARE, NO HEALTH CONCERNS ASSdCIATED WITH THE PRESENCE OF
DICAMBA IN THESE CIGARETTES. APPROXIMATELY 30 OF THESE
CIGARETTE CASES HAVE SINCE BEEN RETRIEVED.
AT THE PRESENT TIME, THE U. S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, MHE USDA AND
CUSTOMS OFFICIALS ARE INVESTIGATING TO DETERMINE IF THERE WAS
ANY VIOLATION OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS WHEN THE BLENDED TOBACCO
FROM OUR GERMAN SUBSIDIARY WAS RECEIVED IN THE UNITED STATES.
WE ARE COOPERATING IN THAT INVESTIGATION.
TO FURTHER PUT THIS MATTER IN PROPER PERSPECTIVE, IT IS
NECESSARY TO REVIEW THE FACTS ABOUT DICAMBA AND THE WAY IT
APPARENTLY BECAME PART OF THE REGULATIONS REGARDING IMPORTED AND
DOMESTIC TOBACCO.
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DICAMBA HAS BEEN REGISTEREI) AS A PRE- AND POST-EMERGENCE
HERBICIDE TO CONTROL WOODY PLANTS AND BROAD-LEAF WEEDS. IT HAS
BEEN USED IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE 1967 WITH A NUMBER OF FOOD
CROPS.
NO APPLICATION HAS BEEN MADE IN THE UNITED STATES FOR THE USE OF
DICAMBA AS A HERBICIDE FOR USE WITH TOBACCO BECAUSE DICAMBA
KILLS BROAD LEAF PLANTS INCLUDING TOBACCO. AS I INDICATED
EARLIER, OTHER COUNTRIES SUCH AS JAPAN AND WEST GERMANY DO NOT
PROHIBIT THE IMPORTATION OF TOBACCO CONTAINING DICAMBA.
DICAMBA DOES NOT CAUSE ANY ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTSAT LEVELS OF
INTENDED USE, OR AT LEVELS CONSIDERABLY ABOVE THE USDA RESIDUE
LIMIT OF 0.5 PPM. RESULTS OBTAINED IN LABORATORY ANIMALS HAVE
DEMONSTRATED THAT DICAMBA IS NOT ACUTELY TOXIC AND DOES NOT
CAUSE CANCER, BIRTH DEFECTS, OR ADVERSE EFFECTS ON REPRODUCTIVE
CAPACITY.
SUCH'CONCLUSION IS WELL DOCUMENTED IN THE TECHNICAL LITERATURE
AND HAS BEEN REAFFIRMED IN RECENT TIMES, SUCH AS THE FOLLOWING:
IN THE JUNE 3, 1987 WALL STREET JOURNAL, DR. WILLIAM BURNHAM, AN
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY TOXICOLOGIST WAS QUOTED AS
SAYING "THERE ISN'T ANY EVIDENCE THAT DICAMBA CAUSES CANCER OR
BIRTH DEFECTS".
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DR. JOHN MCCARTHY, DIRECTOR OF SCIENTIFIC AFFAIRS OF THE
NATIONAL AGRICULTURAL CHEMICALS ASSOCIATION, WAS QUOTED AS
SAYING "DICAMBA IS NOT A CONTROVERSIAL CHEMICAL" IN THE
GREENSBORO NEWS & RECORD ON JUNE 2, 1987.
DR. T. J. (JACK) SHEETS, PROFESSOR AND DIRECTOR OF THE PESTICIDE
RESIDUE LABORATORY AT NORTH CAROLINA STATE UNIVERSITY ALSO HAS
CONFIRMED TO US THE LACK OF TOXICITY ASSOCIATED WITH DICAMBA.
AS I HAVE ALREADY STATED, IN AUGUST 1986 THE USDA ADOPTED
REGULATIONS SETTING RESIDUE LEVELS FOR DICAMBA AND OTHER
PESTICIDES. THESE REGULATIONS LIMIT THE PERMISSIBLE LEVELS OF
DICAMBA ON IMPORTED AND DOMESTIC FLDE-CURED AND BURLEY TOBACCOS
TO 0.5 PARTS PER MILLION.
GOVERNMENI' RECORDS RELATING TO THE INCLUSION OF DICAMBA IN THIS
REGULATION MARE SPECIFIC REFERENCE TO THE USE OF DICAMBA AS A
"RIPENING AGENT".
WE CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT DICAMBA'S PRESENCE IN THIS REGULATION
AND THE APPLICABILITY OF THE REGULATION ONLY TO FLUE-CURED AND
BURLEY TOBACCO WAS TO PROTECT DOMESTICALLY GROWN LEAF FROM
COMPETITIVE FOREIGN TOBACCOS, WHICH MIGHT APPEAR TO BE OF A
HIGHER QUALITY THAN THEY ACTUALLY WERE, BECAUSE OF DICAMBA'S
"YELLOWING" EFFECT WHEN APPLIED TO IMMATURE TOBACCO LEAVES.
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THIS WOULD SEEM TO BE THE LOGICAL EXPLANATION IN VIEW OF THE
FACT THAT THERE IS NO SIMILAR RESTRICTION ON DICAMBA RESIDUES IN
ORIENTAL TOBACCOS WHICH ARE COMMONLY USED IN AMERICAN
CIGARETTES, BUT NOT GROWN IN THE UNITED STATES. IT WOULD ALSO
EXPLAIN WHY MARYLAND AND PENNSYLVANIA TOBACCOS, NOT GROWN
OVERSEAS, ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE 0.5 PARTS PER MILLION
LIMITATION.
IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, THE USDA ISSUED A NEWS RELEASE AND
OTHER PUBLIC STATEMENTS INDICATING THE DEPARTMENT WAS AWARE THAT
,
SOME U. S. GROWERS HAD ON OCCASION USED DICAMBA.
THIS RELEASE STATED THEY HAD FOUND DICAMBA RESIDUES ON FIVE
,
PERCENT OF THE SAMPLES THEY HAD TAKEN FROM 1986 U: S. FLUE-CURED
TOBACCO AUCTION MARKETS. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT VIOLATIVE
DICAMBA RESIDUE LEVELS IN THESE SAMPLES RANGED FROM SIX TENTHS
TO 207 PARTS PER MILLION.
FURTHER, WE UNDERSTAND THERE HAVE BEEN CASES IN WHICH U. S.
GROWERS HAVE HAD TO RETURN CROP SUPPORT ADVANCES BECAUSE THEY
WERE FOUND TO HAVE USED DICAMBA IN VIOLATION OF THESE
REGULATIONS.
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SINCE"WE BECAME AWARE OF THE DICAMBA SITUATION REGARDING THE
BLENDED TOBACCOS SENT HERE BY OUR GERMAN SUBSIDIARY FOR THE
JAPANESE BLEND, WE HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING TESTS TO DETERMINE THE
ORIGIN OF THE TOBACCO IN THE BLEND THAT CONTAINED THE
IMPERMISSIBLE LEVELS OF DICAMBA.
RESULTS OF THOSE TESTS SHOW THAT THE SOURCE OF DICAMBA IN THE
BLEND IS U.S.-GROWN FLUE-CURED TOBACCOS PREVIOUSLY PURCHASED BY '
OUR GERMAN SUBSIDIARY FROM INDEPENDENT LEAF DEALERS IN THE
UNITED STATES.
IN CONCLUSION, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE FEEL WE HAVE ACTED RESPONSIBLY
UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES THAT HAVE BEEN GREATLY EXAGGERATED. EQUALLY
IMPORTANT, WE BELIEVE IT ESSENTIAL FOR ALL INVOLVED TO RECOGNIZE
THAT DICAMBA AS USED ON TOBACCO DOES NOT REPRESENT A HEALTH
CONCERN -- IN FACT, WE ESTIMATE THAT EVEN IF CIGARETTES WERE
MADE FROM LEAF CONTAINING 280 PARTS PER MILLION, THE PRODUCT
WOULD STILL FALL WITHIN SAFE LIMITS OF USE -- AND, TO THE EXTENT
THAT DICAMBA IS BEING MISUSED IN THE U. S. AS A YELLOWING
AGENT, APPROPRIATE STEPS MUST BE TAKEN TO LEGITIMIZE ITS USE IN
THE PAST AND PREVENT THIS PRACTICE IN THE FUTURE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, JOINING WITH ME THIS MORNING ARE: DR. A. WALLACE
HAYES, OUR SENIOR CORPORATE TOXICOLOGIST, PAUL C. BERGSON,
SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FOR RJR NABISCO, AND
WAYNE W. JUCHATZ, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT AND GENERAL COUNSEL OF
R. J. REYNOLDS TOBACCO COMPANY.
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