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t 1 3andelman 2 of this date.) 3 T?:E ',4ITNESS . Ves. 4 MR. GLASS : Do you have a 333 v auesticn? Who prepared Exhibit 65? r 6 A Ao-roup of us; myself, ?-'r. Si~-7m an and ',Tr1 7 Monas c h . g ~ Callino* your attention to item one on the 9 second paze, what were your net 7,rofits--rather, c"ross 10 profits, in 1971? 11 MR. GLASS : I oh,j ect to the auestior. 12 on the =round it is irrelevant. 13 ~ Your net prof its in 107L. 14 PnR. GLASS : Same ob.' ec tion . 15 ~R. Jnc js '~''i . Jou are S4.^.~- "or lost 16 nro_`'its, there is some relations::i^ c?t'.~;een Sross 17 revenues and profits. 13 MR. GLASS : Revenues are amounts that 19 are received. ue never recei'; eri •.~iha~ he :ras 20 entitled to r rom Lorillard, so i t •.1ould not be 21 included in this. And the fact that a,:.an makes ' or loses 1C :eV i7 hiS buSi'.^.eSS has ` no relat'~On- L. „ 23 shio to :vne tner or not he '_s d~--,a=ed -or no V. 03709407 iCHNST0,1N iell, '~r. 73lass, there is no claim which you are makin,- which involves

1 Sandelman S f 2 any nrcmoticn which Loriliaru conducted in 3 calendar 1971. `i^erefore, missinc revenues ¢ fr oI1 Lor { Z7a`"t are quite relevant to the in for- ,5 mat-ion I am seekin7,. 6 However, the actual exneri e^ce of thiS 7 comDany in realizing profits on gross revenues 8 clearly is relevant to a claim for damaces which 9 you are asserting-. 10 MR. ^LASS : 1 resz~ect rul 1 y direct my 11 client not to answer. JO? .1ST0~1 . '.•.rou-d ;,ou supola me 13 with a coz,y of your `'edera; tax retar:., Fotert 14 Br-'an, for calendar I;''1'' 15 - i,TR. ';LASS . ;rill no t. 1 16 ',"R. JQu:~S^OI'i: _t:,{ n.k we are ~o'_n~. ~ 17 18 to be Coi^o- to the judJ.e on that one; I thjnk _ will be gettin~- what _ wan t . 19 S? 'rt~.. e r~ :0 h Cal ~te..~~~0.„ . ~-~., ~ m te''1 ;':(.,I^~ w _~~ {_r ~:~,- your a~ ~~~er t:v'O, 21 o'id you ever advise the F'"C that the ter:7s of your 2`_ agreement witCl LCr:,llarC~.~ had Ue°ti "e,-I'..1cer_.I, to ~ 23 and had been si;~nec by you and had :,een su:;^4t ted 24 to Lo"{ 7;a"d? ()3r109,0,~'`5 ~ 25 A Vo. A Taritten contract never exjsted that was