Lorillard
Robert Brian Associates, Inc., Plaintiff, Against Loews Theatres, Inc., Defendant. Supreme Court of the State of New York County of New York Deposition of Robert M. Sandelmann
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- Sandelmann, R.M.
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- 03709063/03709368
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- LEGAL DEPT FILE ROOM
- Named Organization
- Advertising Age + Promotion Magazine
- Alfred Paul Lefton
- American Hotel
- Barton Press
- Bissell
- Blue Ribbon Division
- Brooklyn College
- Bw, Brown & Williamson
- Canada Dry
- Consumers Magazine
- Consumers Union
- Darci
- Dl Blair
- Dupont
- Foote Cone
- Ftc, Federal Trade Commission
- Glass Greenberg
- Good Luck Glove
- Hudson Pulp + Paper
- Ibm
- Jewish Family Services
- Johnson + Johnson
- Kent June Review
- Kraft
- Lehm + Fink
- Lenlehn + Newell
- Litten Industries Sales Promotion G
- Loews Hotels
- Loews Theaters
- Manhattan Shirt
- Mobil Oil
- Monasch Chazen
- Monsanto
- Nabisco
- Norton Simon
- Nyu
- Ny Times
- Paul Weiss
- Pepsi Cola
- Periodical Advertising + Sales Prom
- Plaza Group
- RJR, R.J.Reynolds
- Robert Brian Associates
- Sales Promotion Executive Assn
- Sandy Printing + Offset
- Supermarket Institute
- Syergists
- Triangle Research
- Aaron Perel
- Alfred Paul Lefton
- Copied
- B, J.J.
- G, I.
- G, M.I.
- Killeran, J.
- Killian, J.
- K, J.
- S, A.J. <Stevens, A.J.>
- Xxphil
- G, I.
- Named Person
- Armstrong, L.
- Bass
- Bass, B.
- Bresnahan, J.
- Careyspoke, R.
- Carey, R.
- Crown, M.
- Dougherty, W.
- Gaberman, P.
- Gassman, M.I.
- Gerber, I.
- Glass, L.R.
- Goldsmith, V.
- Greenberg, L.
- Guberman, I.
- Hann, M.
- Heinze, L.
- Hirschhorn, S.
- Howard, D.
- Jagoda, H.
- Jagota, D.
- Jagota, J.
- Johnson, M.
- Johnston, N.
- Judge, C.H.
- Kaufman, H.R.
- Kaufman, L.
- Kennedy, J.
- Killeran, J.
- Killian, J.
- Kleinbard, M.
- Mahoney, N.
- Monasch, B.I.
- Moore
- Moss, M.
- Ocain
- Oconnor, F.
- Orth, R.
- Perel, A.
- Preston, R.
- Rosenfeld, G.
- Sandelmann, A.A.
- Sandelmann, J.
- Sandelmann, R.M.
- Schwartz
- Sigman, S.
- Stevens, A.J.
- Stevens, R.
- Tisch
- Tisch, R.P.
- Weinberg, R.
- Wells, F.
- White, H.
- Xxalan
- Xxjohn
- Xxmary
- Zigman, S.
- Zogg, R.J.
- Bass
- Document File
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SUPREi,2 COURT OF Zi3E STATE OF NEW YORK
COUNTY OF' NE ;lJ YORK
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aoainst INDEX NO.
LOEWS THEATRES, I1VC, ,
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ROBERT BRIAN ASSGCIATES, INC.,
Plaintiff',
DEPOSITION of ROBERT M. SANDELh1ANN
taken before a Notary Public of the State of
New York, held at the offices of Paul, Weiss,
Rifkin, Wnarton & Garrison, 31-{5 Park Avenue,
New York, New York J0G29, on February 7, 1975
at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Notice dated
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December 27, 1974.
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A P P E A R A N C E S:
GLASS, GREENBERG & IRWIN, ESQS.
Attorneys for Plaintiff
540 Madison Avenue
New York, New York 10022
BY: LEONARD R. GLASS, ESQ.
of Counsel
PAUL, WEISS, RIFKIND, WHARTON & GARRISON, ESQS.
Attorneys for Defendant
345 Park Avenue
New York, New York 10029
BY: MARTIN KLEINBARD, ESQ.
and HENRY R. KAUFMAN, ESQ.
of Counsel
IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND AGREED by
and between the parties hereto through their
respective counsel that sealing, certification
and filing shall be and the same are hereby
waived.
IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND AGREED that
all objections, except as to the form of then
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IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED A1dD AGREED that
22 the within deposition may be signed and sworn
23, to before any Notary Public with the same force
2-Jp and effect as if siPned and sworn to before the
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R 0 B E R T M. S A N D E L MA N N, r e s id in`
at 1007 East 3Bth Street, New York, New York,
having been first duly sworn before a Notary
Public of the State of New York, upon being
examined, testified as follows :
EXAh;INATION BY
MR. KLEINBARD:
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b1r. . Sand e lmann, would you s t a t e your full
name and address for the record?
A Robert R1. Sandelmann, 1007 East 38th Street,
New York City.
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occupation?
Mr. Sandelmann, what is your present
A An executive.
Q An executive of what?
A Of Robert Brian Associates, Inc.
Q And how lon,- has that been a corporation?
A It was incorporated in New York in 1955.
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10 A Yes, sir.
11 Q So it would be fair to say that you have
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activities since 1955?
14 A That is correct.
15 Q Now, prior to 1955, what was your business
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4 Q And who was the principal of that company?
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10 Q Were either of them related to you by
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12 A Both were related, Alex uas my father and
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14 Q How long did you work for the Sandy
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16 Six years.
17 Q That takes it back to 19119, does it
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a. Q What de~ree did you ~et?
A Bac he lor of Sc ienc e.
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Now, in your -- by the way, what position
do you occupy at 'Robert Brian Associates, Inc. at
the present time?
A I am its president.
Q And have you been its president since 1955?
A Yes.
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n tiahen did you first become associated,
-arhen did you first become acquainted or have any
business dealinws with the Lorillard Division of Loews?
A Lorillard Division of Loe;.:s and other companies
entered into an -a~ree:nent on June l, 197O
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Now, prior to that time, was iorillard
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23 Q Well, during what period of time did you
2,}r` work for the dei'endant, Loer:s Theatres, Inc.?
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but we worked for Loews Hotels and we did work for
them continuously in the early '60's.
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When you say you worked, what type of
work did you do for them?
We desi`ned, wrote and f urnished the artwork
for hotel brochures, for the various hotel properties.
Vle submitted ideas, creative ideas to the company in
re`ards to their relationshio with travel auents, hotel
market problems, the whole range of market problems in
the operat ion of their Yiotels.
Q And with whom did you deal with at LoetiJs
Hotel?
A Robert Preston. His assistant -- I can't
remember his name and the director, I,'r. Gerber, Irv,in
Gerber and David Hotirard, 14r. Gerber's predecessor.
Q Now, you mentioned a date when you say
Robert Brian Associates, Inc. and the Lorillard Division
of- Loei,;s Theatres, Inc. entered into an al-reement---
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Q Arid on what date did you say they ente-ced
into the aGreement?
A June 1, 1?70.
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you claim you entered into on that date, did you have
3 any communication with anybody at Lorillard or make
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4 any presentation to any persons at Lorillard?
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A Ye s, we d id .
Q Could you describe what you did, when you
d id it and with whom?
A Durin` those early years prior to June 1, 1970,
the tobacco com,-)anies were no lon`er coin` to spend
money on the electronic media, television and radio
11 and therefore were looking for other ways to compute
12 their market dollars that they had.aopropriated each
13 year in their bud';et. We wrote to them and contacted
14 them personally and su--ested that they consider using
15 salesPrbmotion and marketing tools as a way of promotin~
1C~ their line and brands of cigarettes.
17 Q Al1l r i(ght.
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A They invited us t;:, the eorn,~any.
Q Will you hold it at that point? When you
20 say you ;rrote to them, 1-rho 1r1ote to ti;hom?
21 P We ~;rrote a short note to Joe r_illiarl, who at
22 that time was the sales promotion manager for Lorillard.
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24r si~rnatuie?
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as my :.~i_;nature, yes.
And 1rhen you say'kqe;' is that over your
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2 Q And you wrote a shor t note to him, you
3 M-say sometime prior to June 1, 1970?
4 A Oh, yes.
5 About how long before?
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Within sixty days of that time.
7 Q Do you recall the substance of that
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communication?
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A Yes, I do. We su~~ested that I~ir. Killian
10 invite us to maE~e a presentation at his company, in
11 the area of our expertise, sales promotion and market
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~1R , K_LE IIMA1;?): I"loiv, j us t c onf in i.n-, our -
14 selves to that particular communication, do ,re
15 have that letter?
1fr MR. KAUF1 AI1: No.
17 MR, hLE IPIBARD : Do you have a c opy of that
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19 M,, GLASS: Iio, sir, vJe do not. .
20 a Do you kn ~;r Vihz3t becaine of that lettcr-:
21 A 11;), ^ir, I do nt. It was a hand~,,ritten note.
22 Q t'1re you sayin,; o?' su~:estin; by your
23 answer that you did not retain a copy of that note?
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