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Transcript of Proceedings United States Senate Committee on Labor and Human Resources Hearing on S. 1929 Comprehensive Smoking Prevention Education Act

Date: 16 Mar 1982
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Transcript of Proceedings . UNITED STATES SENATE COMMITTEE ON LABORAND HUMAN RESOURCES Hearing on S. 1929 '. COMPREHENSIVE SMORINCI PREVENTION EDUCATION ACT (THIS TRANSCRSPT WAS PREPARED FROM A TAPE RECORDING. a TnTashsngton R D. C .. Tuesdayr 16 March 1982 Tail Feurding 5esuaum-s, ?nir_ 1C347 SOUTH CAPITOL ST.. S.W. • WASH., D.C. 20003 ~ %- 1 1- SU1730'NWUfIDI GOVIE3tAGF - DAIL7 - Tr1.oham: (,'Z0Z ) 3a7-3X00 ~' ~0 w .
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R11325. -0 M^r. fr. 1' UNITED STATES SENATE COMMITTEE ON LABOR, AND HUMAN R'ESOURCES'. 4 .5 Hearing on S. 192'9 1 COMPREHENS~~IVE'~ SM0'~K]INC'~ P'REVENTYON EDUCAT~I~~ON~ 10 12 13 14 15 17 18 19 20, 21 22 23' Room 4 2 3'2 Dirksen Senate Office Bui1ding. Washingtonr D. C. Tuesday, 16, March 1982 (THIS TRANSCRIPT WAS PREPARED FROM A TAPE RECORD'ING. )', 2411, *-Fedenf Report.cs, inc, 25
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3250 ' 0 u 0' 1 j'10MT 1' 2 3 41 5 6 7 9 PR0''CEED'.T NCS SENiATOF?' HATCH= I't's a pleasure for me to welcome you here' t.oday to these full committee hearings devoted' to the C'omprehensivE Smok.fng P!rev$ntion, and' Education Act, S. 1!19'29 1. .As Chairman of the Labor and' Hum;an Resources Commi'ttee, I have had .thre' opportunity to l,earn, a, great deal about the health needs of our citi'z-ens. Over the past de~c~ade, there have b~een~~ num~ero:us~ federal initiatives intended tomeet these needs, all of which have.warthy motjves,, with, a pri_ce, tag which has proven to be more costly than the taxpayers can afford. _ Cansequently,. Congress 1s sloily but su!rely rediscovering .a 1ns~~t~ viirtue~. I~t's~ called prud~encE~.~ ~And so~ now,n in cooperation with President Reagan, we are tryi'ng to 16 6~ target our~ resources and a~~e~~ti~vit~ies~~ .wh~erethey:e are~ likely ~ t~o~, 17' reap th,e.most benefi't, where they wLT1 gi:ve .us the biggest 18' bang for the buck. 191 In this regard', I've c.on'sulted' with scientists 20 and' healthprofess3iona1s within! th~e! public and' private21 sector f'or _their recommendatjans. I am impressed with their 22 Strong consensms, favoring moire Emphasis on preventative 23 medicine and health promotion. VNe simpl'y cannot afford' to, 24 spend the .Li.onr's share of our tederal health dollar on the 25 treatment -of' d'isease,, particularly when' so many o the c;,qce- ~}edezal eRepoatezs; -qnc.4'44' NORTHI CAPITOL STREET 1M i15 H I N G? O N. D. C. 20001. 12021' 347-3700 NATIONMV'ID'E COVERAGE
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3250 01 02 3 j'101M1'T I illnesses which cause death.and disab'i11ty are preventable. C f , 2 I speak here not only of the doll~ar cost but aTso 3' of the human cost. Our government•s commitment to heaIth 4 preventj,an, must theretore become more than sentimental liip service. Our e.ommitment should translate into action. The health o.f' -the Ame.ri'can, pEopLe d'epe:nds on it. Our nat ian*s pr e.emanent hea lth .expe rts agree that the most worthwhile sangle .effo:rt .we could make to improve the healthlof' our citizens .i's to convince them of the harmfulness of_ smoking _cigarettes. I'tcauses chronic 5'. 7' 8 disease, premature d-3ath, and billions of' doll.ars of lost productivjty every year.; .13 ln .fact, _fhis legi'slationenjoys endorsement from' 14 virtuaTlyr every ma jor .and medj'cal professjonail organi2.ation 1'1 5_ _.c,onc:ex.ned with public heal'th. I am niot interestedi in 16: ' legisaating~ health, in telling people how to liv.e their 17 ' _.personal' lives. I am parti.c.ul!aray not interested' in having. 18 the Federal. Government step In if .a problem1 can be solved i'n 119 the private sector, as it ulsuaLlly can. 20 But I am tonvji.nc_ed that the health .consequiences of 21 smoking are of _su-ch magnitude that the public is 22' suf_'ficiently uinaware of these.problems, that we need_another, 23 mia j.ar ,nat innal effort to he Ip .our c ilt i_zens make i nf ormed 24 choices about their health.. 2'5' It .is_ not government regulation, but mor.e public . O W C7a ~ ~,. ~'..: e#ce- 'Yedezal cRepoztezsy -qnc. 444 NORTH CAPITOU,STREET WASHtNGTON, D.C. 20001 t2102b 347-3700 NATIONWIDE COVERAGE
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3250 01 03 -4 jlOMT I eduicati.cn I hav:e in mind. 2 I agree with farmer. Assistant Secretary of' Health, 3' Dr • Ted' Cooper, when he .said, -"'VNe will achi'eve the greatest C4 . good not throughlabsolute bans, but by g,i vingour.peopl e51 the. knowledqe necess-ary to .mak,e rational and informed 6 personal decisi,ons." 7That,s why S.enator' P'ackwood and I have introduced' C ` 8 the Comprehens.i ve ..Smok:fng Pre ve.ntion and Ed.uc ati on Act. 9 S.enator.Packwood, of .c.ourse, is with us today, and I'm. .1'01 grateful to have him .here. - H'e,'s chairman of the Senate 1!11 Commerc.e Cbmmittee. And we introduced _this bi1'1 on . 12 Decsmber 9th,, 198J. 13 - Thi s bi ll i's des ignedi to stimul.ate a c..ooperati ve 14 effort with th.e private sector to provide health .ed.uc.ation, 15 on smoking. NVe wo:uldl.like the Federal Go!ver.nment to 16, continue the activities of the Office of:.Sm:oking and.Htalth, 1'7 which does a, c:omme.ndable job i'n coordinating and, il8' disseminating smoking..reuated i'nf:orma.tion. The stimul'us and 119' support that this leg.is.latio:n can _pr.ovide w.ill further 20 augment .these admirable efforts.. 2'1 In addition, our bi'1l asks the tobacco industry to 22' rotate th:e messages .oni the warning labels already mandat.ed' 23' by the Federal Cigarett.e Labeling andi Advertis.ing Act. 24 These labels iiniform our smoking popullationinot only of' 25 cigarettes causal link w.i'th the cancer .o:f' the lung, but also c7qce- `3ed'e2al cRepoztezs; -qnc. 444 NORTH CAPITOL STREET WASHINGTON. D.C. 200011 (302)' 347-3700 NATIONWIDE COVERiIP.E'
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3250 01' 04 5 j10MT" I with emphysema, a chronic .lung disease. .whi'ch, causes.a slow 2' and agonizing drath and d:isablas over a milli.on Americans. 3 Cigarettes a]o so cause heart d'.iseas:e a.nd may' c ause 4 mis.carriages or premature b.irths. 5 Tabacco-manufacturrrs would also be asked to 6 pr.ovide information regarding the chemical additives used as 7' flavor enhancers so that our scientists can determine if 8' they aren,'t possibly as cancer-causinglas tobacco itself. 9' Today', we are going to hear..testimony from 110'~ rep~rese~~ntatives~~ of t~h~.e~~ .Ad'mtn~is~t~ra~~t~i~on, from a panel o~~f' ~ 1'11 ,outstanding s.cientists,i _and f'r:om, a_distinguished spokesman 12' representing the "lbig three'- volunteer agencies, the 13 American Cancer So.c.iety, th.e Ameri.c.an Heart Assoc.i'atjon, and 14 the Ameri'can Lung Assacjation. , 115~: _~ ~ I wn~~u ld: 1 i ke to~~ ta~kE~~ t~hii s~ oFportun~i~t~y'~ to r~e~~cog,ni a e~~ 16 the American Heart Associati.on for their assistance i'.ni .1i7 drafting, the Comprehensive Smoking -Preventlon, andl Education 1l8 Act. 14 W'e wa1T aliso, hear testimony from a representative 20, .of the Tobacco Ins itute, as we_T11. 21 The tPstimcxny presented today -is gof.ng to address 22 the he_alth-rel-ated, aspects of thfis biJll. 23 Senator Packwood has scheduled' Commerce Committee 24 hearings for April 26th regarding advertisi.ng anditrade 25: i ssues,. And,I' mi'ghtadd',t we are very grateful to: have d¢ce- ~}edezal c:Re~aztezs, -qrtc. 44'4 NORTH', CAPITOL STREET' WASHINGTON. D.C. 20001'. (2023 347-3700 . NATIONWIDE COVERAGE
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3250 0' 1 05 6 jLDMT I Senator Packw-oodi join.our committee todayc. 2S~enator Packwood and' myself,, asI~ve mentioned,3 have - jo.intlyr sponsored this legislation. And I certainly 4 appreciate his active interest in these hearings and.wel,come 5 his part ic ipat.fon. 6' Sen ator F ac kwood'. 7SEI+IATOR .P'ACKWOODs Mr. Chairman, thank you for 8'' extending the invitation to, me and to all of the members of 91 the Commerce .Comm.itte.e to par_ti_cipate in- this hearing on' the 110 bill before -us. 1' I As you are aw'are, th,e ma jo'r purpose of. t.his i2 legisLati:-an is to provide consumers with more i'nfo'rmatilon 1''3 about the adverse effE:cts oif: smoking. 14 As~ a member o.f~ the~~~ .C'o~~mmer.c.e~~ .GD:mm.i tt e:e~ andi now as~~ 15c~~ha~irman, of tha~~t~ commit~te~e~~, ~ I have~ Iom~_g b~e~~e~n concerned with ~ 1161 the effects of. unfair..o'r deceptive prcduct labeling and 1.7 advertising. And 1' am particularly r.onc.erned about what I 18 believe is an iaadequate aware:nessabcut the specif'i.c health 19 hazards of smolt..ing, and .aboLt advertising campaigns that. 20 target segments of the population, s:uch as young adults. 21 And we all know that women_ .whol are pregnant and' those who' 22 take birth o_ontrol pi lTs may be uniquely affacted' by smoking 23 and that y©ung adul'ts may .be unduly affected by 24 advrertisements. 25 The legi'slatian, Mr. Chairman, that you, andi I have c,qce- ~}edeza( cj~epoztezs, -qiu.. 444 NORTH CAPITOL STREET WASHINGTON, , D.C. 20001 1202a 347-3700 aI NATIONV1AlIDE' COVERAGE.
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3250 01 06' 7 JlOMT 1 co-sponsored has been condemned as.an example of burdensome 2 governm.ental regulat,.ion, and an, abridgement of' the First 3' Amendment of the il.rtatedi States Constitution. This coulid not. 4 be further from the truth . . 5 My record on these.subj'etts is clear. I have been_ 6 a proponent -of derEgv Lation in the communic.at fon, industry, 7' the transpo'rtation' indUstry. And where there was a 8' demonstrated need' .for a freer marketpaacE, I.have support.ed 9' that deregulat.ion. I have also bee:n $ fervent supporter of 10' civil libert:f'es. But in the~~ market~pLa~c.e o~.f' .i.a~f©rmatio.n, th~~e~ 112' American peopLe are: rlesperate1y in ne€d' of more. info'rmatian 1i3' about the he,alLh .eff:e.cts~ of _smo!'cj..ng in order to make a, truly 14 free and: informed' chai'c.e. ~ 15 ._1 look fo'rward to hearingi from the witrtesses 11 ~~ 6'; sch~ed~u~Led: for this~, morn~ing~ and' lle~arni'.ngi mo~~reab'aaut th~e 17 health as.p:e:cts of these issues. 118', Tha nk you. 119 SENATOR ' HATCNI= Thank you, Senator P'.ackwood. I 20 know S~ena~~t~o~r, East~~ is~~_withi .u~s~.~ 2'1 And, Semator, we~re happy' to invite you to, 22 .('inaudib]le)i in the h:eari!ngs today. 2'3'~ S:EIV~A~TOR EAST, Than~k~ yoau~,. Mr.~ Ch~a~~i'~rm~an~.~ 2'4' - appreciate the; opportunity to be here wi'th my t~.wo' 2'5 d'isti.nguished colileagues from the Senate and also members of 0 C.y i 0"1 , cvqce- 'Yedezat eRepoztezs; lqrC. 444 NORTH, CAPITOL STREET~ WIASHIINGTON', D.C. 20001 (202) 347-3700 NATION~WIDE~~ COVERAGE
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3250 0' l 07, 8 r J10MT I disttilnguil.shed' lead'ers in the Republiean, Party. 2' Mr. Chairman, :I appreciate, as a member of. this 3 commii'ttee, the opportuni'ty to make some observation onj this 4 legis.LatiQn. 5 I certainly underst.and the good intentions of' yrrxu 6 tw-a d!istinguishedL gentlement but 1 will be blunt and 7 9 categorical about it, I think this is .a bad bill. And I'd like to briefly state at the outset whyI think it is and then we can take these matters up with greater precision and I wau ld~ h~o~pe,. Mr~.~ Cha.irinan~, that~ in t~er.ms~ of the~ 12 panels we have here that we can have a balanced presentation 13 this morningi. And .we shall certainly strive for that, andi 14 as I know You .N1.111, to o. But .I~ w:ouilLd'~ like~~ to~: s!ay^~ that ~ if it~ il 1101 f'o~~cus~~ as we~ lac.e~ our .wa~~y! through th~e~~ --~ the~ hEaring,stod~~a~y:. 15 would appear, after the conclusion of our hearings this. 16 morning, that additi.onal hearings may be in order, that we 17 18 can get the broad perspective o.f' opinion onithi's, I woulid' cerainly, as one member of' the commii.ttee, LiltP ta, have us 19 move in that dir.ection If _it. would seem ilt would_ .bE, useful 20 as we pursue this subject. 21', As twth of the gentlemen have indicated, the -- 22 .the purpose af thi's bill is ta__i'norease the fnformation 23~~ level af~ the Am~:erj.c~~an~ .pe~op~le~~ about~ the h~e~a~li~th~hazard~~so~f~: 24! . smoking. 25 N'ow, it's intteresting to rxote the Gallup Po1'1 has coqce- ~}edezal cRepoztezs, -qrrc.. 444 : NORTH CAPITOL STREET 1M'ASHINGTiON.: DiC: 20001 (202) 347=3700 NATIONWIDE COVERA:GE
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3250 01 08 .. 9 J10MT I shown that 92' perc.ent of the Amer.ican, people already:lcnow C C 2' that cigarette smoking does, carried to excess, involve 3 certain health.risks - as many things. do. Drinking does, 4 excessive use of sugar, salt„ fast dri'sringi, obesity, and' 5 ad i_nfinitum. 61 My concern here .is, Mr. Chairman, that what you T have' is a bi1.1 that is purpo:.itEd' to, be informational in 8 basic structure and diesagn, but ,ultimately, if you strip It g: down toit_s~ theoret:icaT base,_it has aprohibditional mrood, 10 about it, be.causet what it wouldi do - and I fi.nd' this 11 contrary ta thL philosophy of,this .Administ.ratjlon and to the .12 mandate .o:f' 1'9!.8Q' - this would, saddle a legitimate and 13 honorabT.e and long-standing industry .in this country with, zn 1I4 enorm:ous bureau.cratic regulation. We -deeply fear - we 15 dieeply .f.e.ar that this bill woulld be used' as a frontal 16 assau lt on an' honorable tn'd'ustry by the government and al'so 1i7 that it would serve as _th:e basis f.ory very serious assault by 18 the courts upon av_ery honorablle. industry. 19 And T''d Like .t,.:o put thils thing ini.perspective. 2D There is nothing,wrong - jn faot, I' support -- and those 21 who would_ share my posit.ion', .I .beliewe, would support the 22 _idea f,or the govesnmen.t to, inform people about relativ'.e 23 health problems, be it tobacco,} drinkinig, saIt, sugar, 24 automobiles, olaes~~aty, and again - so forth -.is 25 appropriate and a useful role of' government. But again,, c4ce- '3edezaf cRepozfezs, _qnc 4'44 NORTH CAPITOL STREET WASHINGTON,, D.C. 200011 /2021' 347-3700 . NATIONWIDE COVERAGE

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