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Susan Haines V Liggett Group, Inc. Deposition of Joel B. Cohen Volume 2.
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF NEW JERSEY
CIVIL ACTION N0. 64-678
SUSAN HAINES, as I DApOSITION oFi
Ad.inistratrix, as :
Prosequendum and Excutrix of I JOSL e. COHEN
the ESTATE OF PKTiR ROSSI, t
i VOLUME 2
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LIGGETT GROUP,
Delaware oorporation, L0EM18 I
THal1TRa8. INC @ a NoM York
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INC., a Virginia corporation I
and THE TOBACCO INSTITU TS, ~
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T A A N 8 C R I p T of deposition as tak9n
by and bef or Tho.as F. erazai ti s. a Notary Publ ic and
Certified shorthand Reporter of the 8tate of N.w
J.rsey, at the offices of audd, La=nos, aross.
Ros.nbaum, Greenberg 6 Sa4*, spqs., 150 J.t.K.
Parkway, Short Hills, New J.rsoy, on Thursday, August
1 S, 1991, comaionc i ng a t 9105 a...
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT REPORTERS
P. O. BOX 307 (201) 8435720
NEWARK, N. J. 07101 AOLA (201) 6436721
iTAN RIZYAN HOWARD RAPiM'ORT TOM EMZAITIi IItKE DILLON ENOENE F. HALPERlN
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A P P E A R A N C E S:
BUDD, LARNER, GROSS, ROSENBAUM, GREENBERG &
SADE, ESQS.
BY: CYNTHIA A. WALTERS, ESQ.
Attorneys for the Plaintiff
MUDGE, ROSE, GUTHRIE, ALEXANDER & FERDON, ESQS.
BY: JAMES V. KEARNEY, ESQ., and
PATRICK J. CARTY, ESQ.
Attorneys for the Defendant Liggett Group, Inc.
BROWN & CONNERY, ESQS.
BY: JOHN J. MULDERIG, ESQ.
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ARNOLD & PORTER, ESQS.
BY: JANET L. JOHNSON, ESQ.
MURRAY GARNICK, ESQ.
THOMAS SILF EN, ESQ.
Attorneys for the Defendant Philip Morris
STRYKER, TAMS & DILL, ESQS.
BY: WILLIAM S. TUCKER, ESQ.
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SHOOK, HARDY & BACON, ESQS.
BY: ALLEN R. PURVIS, ESQ.
Attorneys for the Defendant Lorillard Company
RIKER, DANZIG, SCHERER, HYLAND & PERRETTI,
ESQS.
BY: JEFFREY J. MILLER, ESQ.
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J ONES, DAY, REAVIS & POGUE, ESQS.
BY: KIM F. BIXENSTINE, ESQ., and
STEPHEN J. KACZYNSKI, ESQ.
Attorneys f or the Def endant R. J. Reynolds
Tobacco Co.
DOUGHI & HEWIT, ESQS.
BYs CHRISTOPHER J. CHRISTIE, ESQ.
Attorneys for the Defendant Tobacco Institute
A L S O P R S S E N Ts
Teresa R. Lucas, Senior Analyst
U.S. DISTRICT COURT REPORTERS, NEWARK, N.J. (Z01)643-5720
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4 8Ys MS. BIXItiNBTINE 377,400
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7 i Cohan-19 Binder of ads froM Lig~r
-Maqaaine 258
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Cohen-20 Docuaaent 365
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cohen-21 Telecopy of a Declaration 400
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Cohen-23 Protective Order ~:.
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3 0 t L a! a J A o I V C O A a M, having bean
first duly svorn according to the law by tbe
notary# testifi.d as follovs=
MS. MALT6R8t doforo we finish. itr.
K.arney, as a point of claritication. I was talking to
the witness last niqht# neither one of us could recall
xactly what the transcript r.fl.ctod.
We wanted to be clear that be understood
b is not relying in this case xclusiv.ly on the
advertising in this binder that was rtvi.rrod
y.sterday. 8e also reviewed and has roliod upon all
of the ads that vor relevant and wor produced in the
Cipollone att*r. I don't know it you r.call, those
ads v.r taken fro Li! Maqasine, which is a oaqasin
that Mr. Rossi road.
I beli.v6 be said that yostorday, but
because of your questioning and the forsato we w*r.n't
surs that it was cl.ar.
H1t. RtARMeY: Noll, it was not cloar. I
~ aot dsdorstana that either during the course of
th *toanction of docu.onts belor this dopositioA or
during deposition testiaony yostordaY. And I a. not
prepared to sasiaa his on those advortiss.pt that
you'vo 3ust .entioned.
M., wALTSee, They Mor. provid.d
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MR. RtAR11sYt I will not be prepared to
d that at this session. So velre going to have this
9ontie.an back i! I dees that ntcessary.
MS. NAL?titSf Just so were clear, those
other docuoents are right bere, they're in a binder.
They were produced to you as part ot the production
and as part of the docusents he reviewod and relied
upon. So you certainly did know aod vero on notice.
MR. uaARMaYt Oood.
Can I have that binder arkedT
M8. MALTt/tS t Sure.
MR. ttARNiYt Could we have that oaxkad
the next Cohen exhibi t.
CCobeA-19, binder, is .arked for
identification.)
COalIEIdSD DIRiC! sxdMINAlIOM
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q Or. Coit.a. I show you what your counsel
ves just referring to and we arked as Cohen tabibit
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Can you tell s., when did you first
review those advertise.enta, if you have revie++od ther
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A 3a conjusactioas with the Cipollone caao.
Q You testified yesterday about ratorials
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Cohen - dir.ct/R.arn.y 139
that Ms. Maltors sent down to you In boxes that you
got an opportunity to look at In and about July. 1991
in pr.paration ot your t.sti.ony h.r today.
My question to you ist uas Cohen 19
included in tbos oatarials that were sent to you?
A No, I already bad those tro. Cipollono, and I
had rovie.rod tba.
0 So you haven't reviewed tho in
connection with preparing for this testisonY --
A I bavo.
Q tardoA .?
A I bavo roviewod thom.
Q In connection with preparing for this
t.sti.ony?
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A Just as I'vo roviewod all ot .y notos,in
Cipoiloa., 2'vo qono back over the Cioollon atorial,
aad I thodgbt that I bad indicatod those things
7astordaY. dy not having had a caaeco to review the
ttanseriPt iro. Yost.rday, I want to be oticulons and
"ko suro you understood tbat, bocauso you voso only
osa.iwinq o on a limit.d set of ads yesterday.
0 Nb.n did you r.vinr it In proparation !or
your gai n.s tostimony?
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A I reviewed th. sos.tise du ring July.
Q Di d you sak not es of your review?
A No.
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advertiseotnts that I have he r in Cob.n-191
A p.il, i was testifying about then yesterday.
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of the ad s tor Ch.st.rtiolds +rer also directed tor ard
wos.n, an d they used attractive role odelr for vosen.
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relevant for Mr. Rossi. A0 vould not likely bave
identified with the vos.n tn those ads.
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ut as we got into th e ra after tbe
war -- vell, actually, lot as go back to the var.
During the war, thore wer ads in Li!
that were si.ilar to the ads in li .t. Many of tbe
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And tb*n, aiter the s.cond World Mar, we
had aja1A sports pa sonalities in the ads in Life and
r! !ad hoaltb ads that pretty ucA tracked the health
a4 «- what I's oalling health ads, I think r*
probably both know what I's talking about based on the
discussion yesterday -- that appoated in thM '90s.
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appeared in liie that did not appear in 4ise.
p Let n -- sayb I can shortcut this a
littl bit.
You testitied yesterday, Doctor, about
the xessage and the eaning that Peter Rossi would
have taken tros Chesterfield advertisements during the
period of time that h saoked Chesterfield tros your
review of advertisements that I put in front of you.
Do you reee.ber that testisony?
A Y.s.
Q My question to you isi Is tt yor=
opinion that Mr. wosai -- witbdrawn.
Is it your opinion that the
advertisements contained in Cohen-19 bad any different
asaning or -- to Mr. Rossi or be took any different
sessag troa any of those advertisements tAan you
testiti.d to y.sterd ay?
A Tb.re would only be nuances of difference.
lSost ato saoe elesents of copy that are ditt.rent,
MIt the important point is that there was this added
topeti tion, and ovcasi onally vi th sos.vbat d iit erent
layout, torsat, which sigbt ba. attract.d his
attention.
Q wb.n you entioned there's additional
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A That would be ons element. Itore ads.
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Q When you say there were nuances !n the
message or the .anin9 of the stssag., is the nuance
significant in any respect to your testimony in this
case?
A Nell, It sight bo. Let e give you one
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Q po.
A Yes, I'll -- my answer is yes tben.
Q Y don't want one example thea. You'r
going to have to tell right now all of the auaaoes
that -- to the message and the meaning of the s.ssagf
to Peter ossi trom th.se advertisements --
A i' 11 be happy to. M can go through each of
the ads on by oa and do what we did yest.rday.
I was going to give you an exawple and
then you could decide It It was worth your while to do
trat. =to still willing to do that@ otherviso we'll
#% trroa90 thea one by one and i11 tell you what the
AYarOSs arS,
0 Do you have any rSOollSction now. without
looking at the docn..nts, as to what thost nuances
ar.t
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