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Hubbard Broadcasting, Inc. Vs Metropolitan Sports Facilities Commission. Deposition of: Richard L. Dilworth.
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- Dilworth, R.L.
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
DISTRICT OF MINNESOTA
FOURTH DIVISI0IJ
3-82-1299'
HUBBARD 3ROADCASTING, INC., A
Minnesota Corporation, d/b/a
KSTP-TV, KSTP-AM, Inc., and
KSTP-FM, Inc., A Minnesota
Corporation,
Plaintiffs
vs.
METROPOLITAN SPORTS FACILITIES
COMMISSION, A Public Body;
AMERICAN SIGN AND INDICATOR
CORPORATION, A Washington
Corporation; T!ATIN CITY FEDERAL
SAVINGS & LOAN ASSOCIATION, A
Minnesota Corporation; and
AMERICAN SIGN AND INDICATOR
CORPORATION/TWIN CITY FEDERAL
SAVINGS AND LOAN ASSOCIATION,
A Joint Venture,
) DEPOSITION OF:
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) RICHARD L. DILWORTH
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Defendants
The following deposition of RICHARD L. DILWORTH was
taken before Clarice Einstein at the office of Wayne Juchatz,
R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, Reynolds Building, 401 North
Main Street, Winston-Salem, North Caifolina, beginning at
9:34 o'clock a.m. on Tuesday, February lll, 1984.
Clarice Einstein dc Associates
Court Reporting Services
2914 Oakland Drive
WiastonSateist. NC 2?106
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A P P E A R A N C E S
Clay R. Moore, Esq.
MACKALL, CROUNSE & MOORE
1600 TCF Tower
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55402
David E. Johnston, Esq.
WOMBLE, CARLYLE, SANDRIDGE & RICE
2400 Wachovia Building
Post Office Drawer 84
Winston-Salem, North Carolina 27102
Wayne W. Juchatz, Esq.
Assistant General Counsel
R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company
Winston-Salem, North Carolina 27102
Robert L. Barrows, Esq.
LEONARD, STREET AND DEINARD
1200 National City Bank Building
510 Marquette Avenue
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55402
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STIPULATIONS: I N D E X
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EXAMINATION:
Mr. Moore
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REPORTER CERTIFICATION: 80
WITNESS CERTIFICATION: 81
EXHIBITS
Number Identified
Dilworth Exhibit Sixty 10
Dilworth Exhibit Sixty-One 37
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STIPULATIONS
- 'Pursuant to Notice of Deposition, the deposition of
RICHARD L. DILWORTH was taken before C7arice Einstein,
Notary Public and Court Reporter. The deposition was taken
at the office of Wayne Juchatz, R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Com-
pany, 401 North Main Street, Winston-Salem, North Carolina,
commencing at 9:34 o'clock a.m. on Tuesday, February 14, 1984
All formalities with reference to notice of time and
place and purpose of taking the deposition were expressly
waived. Formalities with reference to sealing and filing
the deposition were waived, and it is stipulated that the
original transcript, upon being duly certified by the under-
signed court reporter, shall be delivered t6* Clay R. Moore,
Esq., Mackall, Crounse & Moore, 1600 TCF Tower, Minneapolis,l
Minnesota, and he shall then be responsible for its preserva
tion and delivery to the Court if needed or so ordered.
It is further stipulated that, except as to the form
of any question, all objections to questions and motions to
strike answers need not be made at the time of the taking
of this testimony, but may be made at the time the testimony
or any part thereof is offered in qvidence.
Reading and signing of the deposition was requestcd
by counsel and the witness.

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The witness, RICHARD L. DILWORTH, upon being first duly
_.sworn to state.the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but
the truth, on his oath, testified as follows:
(9_:34 o'clock a.m4)
EXAMINATION
BY MR. MOORE TO RICHARD L. DILWORTH:
Q. Would you state your name and address, sir?
A. Richard L. Dilworth, 421 Ransom Road, Winston-
Salem, North Carolina 27106.
Q. And by whom are you employed?
A. R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company.
Q. What is your present title?
A. Manager, Out-of-Home Operations.
Q. How long have you been employed by R. J. Reynolds?
A. Twenty-five years.
Q. And beginning irn the year 1959?
A. 1958.
Q. '58? Upon graduation from college, I gather?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Give us a statement, if you like, or summary of
your employment with R. J. Reynolds t since that date -- '58.
A. Do you mean by that the various departments?
Q. The various departments you have been in.
A. Personnel Department, Public Relations, Marketing
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Department, and the RJR Media Services Division of Marketing.
Q. And presently what division or department are you
in as manager? Well, you are manager of a---
A. The Media Department-- RJR Media Services, to be
absolutely proper.
Q. And I use the description advertising or promotion
to describe many of the duties you have just described. How
many years and what years have you been in that general area?
A. As far as out-of-home operations, since November,
1976.
Q. And prior to that time what connection did you have
with advertising or promotional activities on behalf of R. J.I
Reynolds?
A. From 1965 through 1971 involved in both brand
marketing and the media area during that period of time.
Q. Does this all have to do with the development of
advertising -- advertising programs, the placement of adver-
tising?
A. Specifically, developing of implementation of ad-
vertising, rather than the development of advertising itself,
and plans relative to that.
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Q. Nov, you mentioned the phrase, "out-of-home."
What do you mean by that?
A. -Out-of-home would mean all forms of advertising
not counting print advertising, such as newspapers and
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magazines.
-Q. Have you been involved on behalf of R. J. Reynolds
in advertising -- print and newspaper advertising in the
past?
A. Prior to 1971 I was involved to a small degree in
our -- in the company's activities involving print.
Q. All right, now, you have described what out-of-
home advertising is not. What does it include?
A. Out-of-home advertising would encompass what is
generally known as outdoor advertising or billboard adver-
tising -- all those forms relating to outdoor advertising,
such as thirty-sheet billboards, bulletins, transient adver-
tising.
Q. All right, does it also encompass advertising in
a sports stadium or sports arena?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. You draw a distinction, do you not, for your pur-
poses, between stadia and arenas?
A. Yes, we would, for record purposes only.
Q. In case it comes up, what do you mean when you use
the word "arena" as distinguished,from "stadium"?
A. Arena would more specifically encompass those
facilities, enclosed facilities, for example, which would
specifically relate to basketball events, hockey events.
Q. All right, and "stadium"?
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.A. Stadium would clarify more directly the baseball
and'footba-ll -- the outside type of sports activity.
Q. What would you classify the Hubert H. Humphrey
-Metrodome as?
A. Stadium.
Q. You don't mean to say that stadium, in your lexico
would be always outside or not enclosed?
A. No.
Q. As the manager of -- give me that title.again -
out-of-home --=
A., Operations.
Q. --- operations. What do you do with respect to
advertising?
A. We implement the company's out-of-home advertising
programs. By that, I mean we plan, evaluate, execute those
plans and monitor the out-of-home inventory for the corpora-
tion.
Q. Can you be just a littlt~ more specific about what
you mean by those terms? Do you develop the copy itself,
for example?
A. No, we do not develop cmpy.
Q. That is done where?
A. The advertising agencies for the particular brands
that R. J. Reynolds markets. The advertising agencies
develop those plans.
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Q. Do you negotiate agreements with respect to adver-
.tising in stadia or arenas?
A. Yes.
Q. And is that-your-personal function?
A. It's my function to recommend to the management of
the media and Marketing Department in regards to those plans.
Q. But are you the person that actually does the
negotiation within such guidelines or standards as set for
you by your superiors?
A. Yes.
Q. And were you.in fact the person that conducted
negotiations with respect to the contract that R. J. Reynoldo
has in the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome?
A. Yes.
Q. And those negotiations were carried out by you
specifically with whom?
A. With Jim Turner, American Sign and Indicator, and
my immediate superior within R. J. Reynolds.
Q. And who is he?
A. Mr. Dan Pearson. j
Q. Now, the Media Departmentc that you operate within
well, more specifically, your function as manager of out-of-
home operations -- does that cover all of the various brands
of cigarettes manufactured by R. J. Reynolds?
A. Yes, sir. In the United States.
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Q. Can you give me the number of brands manufactured
by R. J. Reynolds?
~ A. - To be specific, I can name the brand families for
you. -
Q. Why don't you do that?
A. Winston, Camel, Salem, Doral, More, Sterling,
Bright, Vantage. I may have missed one or two, but those
are the main brand families, each of those having line ex-
tensions.
Q. Line extensions meaning long or short?
A. Eighty-five millimeter or one hundred millimeter.
Q. The particular brand that is advertised in the
Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome is Winston, is it not?
A. Yes, it is.
MR. MOORE: Would you mark this as ---
MR. BARROWS: We can do this off the
record.
(Off-record discussion.)
MR. MOORE: Let's mark this Dilworth
Sixty.
(Dilworth Exhibit 60 was
marked for the purpose
bf identification.)
Q. (By Mr. Moore) I am handing you what we have
agreed to mark here as Dilworth Exhibit Number 60, Mr. DiI-
worth, and ask you whether you recognize that document.
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