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PRIVATE A.WD CONFIDENTIAL
VISlT RZPORT
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Dr. V. Knot~
Royal O~:awa Hospital, O~awa.
R.E. Thornton
14zh July, 1982
Cirula~ion :
Dr, L,C.F. Blackman
Mr. A,L. Heard
Dr. C,I. Ayr=s
Dr. K.D. KilDurn
Dr. M, Oldman
Mrs. A.K. Comer
Mr. R.S, Wade,
Dr. P,J, Dunn,
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Visit To:
Present:
Dr. V. KnOtt, Royal Ottawa Hospitalz Ottawa.
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Dr. V. Knott
Mr. H.S. Wade
Dr. R.E. Thornton
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Dr. Knott is @urrently a grantee of the C.T.M.C. The
purpose of the visit was to discuss his new gran~
application, which is for a five-year study. I had
met Dr. Knott before, both at the Chelwood Smoking
Behaviour Conference (1977) and also, with Kay Comer,
at the conference on nicotine held My S.E.I.T.A. in
Paris in 1978.
Dr. Knott's most recent proposals for a f~ve year
longitudinal study (1982-6) have already been
discussed extensively at C.T.M.C. and in GRaDC. The
U.S. companies in C.T.M.C. have decided not to support
the new proposals, which is essentially an EEG assess-
ment of children (age 11) and the relation of these
measurements to subsequent smoking habits. However,
I.T.P. and Rothmans (largely as a resl~ of a visit by
P.W. Brown) are, in principle, in favour of support.
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Before leaving t~e UK I discussed the proposal wit~
A.K. Comer (Kay and I had looked at the EgG patterns
of smokers and non-smokers in collaboration with
Dr. C. Binnie of St. Bartholomew's Hospital) and
K.D. Kilburn who had made suggestions for ~he up-
grading of equipment.
4. PROTOCOL
It was suggested that the protocol would be improved
if subjects were re-analysed at ~he end of the 5-y(ar
study. Hopefully, this before- and after- study would
demonstra;e that smokers' EEG's al;ered at the same
ra~e as non-smokers' EEG's which would be good evidence
that smoking was not addictive. This had been inferred
from the BAT study (comparison of the EEG's of smokers
and non-smokers of similar ages) but could no~ be
definitely proved. Also, the differences in smokers
and non-smokers noted in the BAT Study could have
been due either ~o differences between the subjects
in ~he two groups, or to an acute of smoking.
Otherwise, the protocol is detailed and relevant,
as expected from Dr. KnotZ. (See also section 6 ~or
proposed extension to protocol).
5. Z~UIPMENT
Dr. Knott said that he now wished to add equiIment to
measure brain-stem response, newly considered ~o be Of
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considerable importance in this area. This would
add about $25,000 ro the cos~. It was agreed that,
since the study vas going to last five years, this
equipment should be included in the proposal. It
would not be possible to alter the protocol at a
later date.
With regard to the equipment sugEesCed by Dr. Kilburn,
Dr. Knott said that his most recent proposals for
equipment largely anticipated Dr. Kilburn's suggestions
for improved methods of data-acquisition, and had been
made after discussion with EEG experts.
It was agreed ~ha~ Dr. Knott would base his application
on his own list of equipment; it was considered that
this was entirely satisfactory for Zhe analysis envis-
aged by Dr. Knott. Analysis of the results elsewhere
was considered unlikely.
S. ETHICAL PROBLEMS
One of the advantages of carryin6 out con:act
research is tha: any ethical problems become those
of t~e UniversiZy/Rospital rether than of ~he funding
organisation. In Zhe present case this is particularly
imporzant since children are to be studied, and their
smoking/non-smoking habits determined. The accept-
ance of the proposals by Zhe Oztswa School Board and
by the Royal 0ttawa Hospital is important. The former
have already agreed to them - the latter are expected
.~o (and must do so before the projec~ can continue).
Wi;hin these provisos, and providing the C.T.M.C.
fund ~he Royal O~tawa Hospital (rather than Knott
directly) the project should be as well isolated from
the tobacco industry as can be reasonably expectedo
Any project supported by the Tobacco Industry is
potentially open to attack by ~nti-smoking funda-
mentalists: however, the &Ereements noted above
should be sufficient for the rationally-minded.
7. GENERAL COMMENT
Dr. F.J.C. Roe, in discussing likely future pressures
on the industry, suggested that 'nicotine as an addictlve
agent' was a likely ~hreat. The present study is likely
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to demonstrate a constitutional basis for smoking,
and a lack of chronic (5 year) effects on brain
activity. Both would be useful pieces of information
bearinK on the fac~ that smoking is not addictive,
and as measured by EEG not harmful.
However, i$ should be borne in mind that it is not
a certainty that these results will be established.
The sample size (300) is relatively small and there
is always the possibility that the differences will be
lost in noises. It will be important to quantify, as
far as possible, the anti-smokinE pressures on the
children.
ADDENDUM
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RET undertook to obtain information from Nicola
Cherry (L.S.E.) on subject re-call strategies
in longitudinal studies.
R.E. THORNTON
(Written by ~.E. Thornton, but siEned out in his absence.)
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C) INNOVATION
The major thrust o£ innovation and development that will take
place in F'83 will be a complete revamping of our survey in-
formation into an inte~-a~ed whole which will see us through
the 80' s.
The C.M.A. and Monthly Monitor have served us well, but they no
longer suf% the current dynamics o£ the market nor take advan-
tage of today's level o£ infonmtion processing zechnology
{information processing covers the areas of data collec=ion
through to computer reporting and analysis).
Project Brand ID and various other studies leading up to that
project, plus nt~erous opinions in and out of Research have
identified the draw backs of our current survey tools. An
overall approach to overcome these flaws, that is not cost
prohibitive, will be tackled and resol%~d in F'83.
This undertaking is a major one and involves the formu/ation
of a critical path which will aid us in meetinE our ccmmilmmnt.
The main focus of this restructuring is titled Project Survey,
which basically calls for a monthly telephone survey
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supplemented by an annual random in-home interview. The
monthly survey will replace the C.M.A. with a shortened
computer assisted questionnaire concentrating on switching.
Image data will be collected in the annual in-home survey
which will also probe on issues which require, or are
better delt with, using a visual stimulus. Tracking cur-
rently being done in the C .M.A. over the telephone is un-
responsive in providing proper measures of new brand or ad
performance, and will he removed and replaced with a more
appropriate methodology.
In mmmarythen, the focus of the Research Group f~r F'83
is on three major projects: Survey, Image, and Track.
There are nw.erous secondary projects to these three but all
have implications on one another. They are currently scheduled
and managed independently. In April, a master plan will be
developed to indicate the critical points and implications each
has on the other.
The following is a description of each of these projects.
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1} P'ro)ect Surve),
The C.M.A. is currently conducted using a quota sample of
urban smokers collected monthly using a telephone method-
ology and typed questionnaire with n~erous skip patterns
and VQB' s.
Val-ious inadeq~cies exist because of such a methodoloD,:
- a brand identification problem due to the inability
through the restricted use of words to identify the
proper brand;
- length of questionrmire as it is weighted down b}"
tracking, image statements and various other questions is
driving down the completion rate and quality of response
and at the same time driving up cost;
- because of time restrictions and the type of scaling
used, image data is currently inadequate; and
- lack of random sampling methodology imposes restrictions
on the form of armlysis that can ~ake place.
Project Survey will initially be a feasibility study on the
use of a co~uter assisted questionnaire administered to a
urban sample which probes primarily on demographics, usual brand,
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and previcus brand.
A computer assisted questionnaire can make better
use of deep probes for proper brand identification
by allowing derailed question blocks for every
brand on the mrket.
Built in editing can occur to help reduce coding and
secondary editing.
Flow of questionna~res will be flawless and less time-
consuming thus reducing length of questionnaire, thus
reducing cost and increasing quality of response.
As a means ro secure the right suq~plier for this
proposed design, we will be considering a proposal ro
be submitted by Adcom before the end of P'8l as well
as explore what other suppliers have to offer.
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