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NCI GETS LONG LIST OF CONSORTIUM CENTER NEEDS.
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NCi had asked for a presentation of issues, problems and needs,
particularly thoee reiated to a consortium center, at the President's
Cancer Panel meetingin San Atncisoolast week.Northern California
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SUSAN HUBBARD NAMED DIRECTOR OF INTERNATIONAL
CANCER INFORMATION CENTER; INCLUDES ICRDB, PDD
WSlIN HOBBARD, who has been chief of the 9cientific Information
Branch in NCPs Office of Internatknal Affairs, has been appointed to
the new position of drector of the International Cancer information
Center,ltwr Masnyk, acting OIA direetor,announced.The Center
Includes the lntesnational Cancer Research Data Bank Branch, which
piovidesa comprehensive range of technical information services
including Canoergrams and PDQ; the Computer Com munieations
Branch, wh!ch operates and maintains support for the centralized
scientific and medical information services of NCI; and the
Putficatkms Bnmch, resporaible for editing and production of "Cancer
Treatment Reports; "dournal of NCI," and "Cancer Treatment
Symposia: Hubbard is acting chief of the ICRDB Branch while
recruiting for a permanent chief; Robert Esterhay is acting chief of
CCB while recruitment pr+oeeeds; and rearuiting has just started for a
Pyblieations Braneh chtef.... HATIONAL CANCBR Advisory Board
meeting Sept.24-26 will include pre9entationa on the White House and
healthscienee policy, by Bernadine Bulkley, deputy director of the
OfSce of Science & 9eeimolagy Pdicyand the W hite House ex officio
representative on the Board; an update on new NCI funding
mechanisms, by Barbara Bynum, director of the Div. of gxtra-
mural Activittes; a discusgion of the NIH peer review appeals system
by William Raub, NIH deputy director for eatramural research and
training; and reports by Chairman Gale Katterhagen of the NCAB
Committee on Cancer Control8 the Community and Chairman Ed
Cailaon of the Com tnittee on Innovations in surgical oncology....
BOTil~13NCANCili9b* Oowhashadnoasmiaft withthe West
Virg6da CCOP, as inoorreetly stated in 1Le Caseer Letter Aug. 25.
"Moreover," writes George Omura, 8Sa chairman, "the problems
which the'M-Btste CCOP (in Ckciruieti, which was not funded for the
aeoond year of the program and which had SEG as one of Its research
bases) has had have been local ones and in no way reflect on the
activities of 8$0. We regret that the 71ri-State CCOP has not been
but perhepsaomethingcan be learned from that experience
byen ng what the local problems were rather " looking for
explanations that are not relevant."
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CONSORTIUM CENTERS NEED TOTALLY
REVISED GUIDELINES. ROSENBERG SAYS
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Cancer Program representatives complied and
perhaps came up with more than NCI executives
wanted to hear.
Saul Rosenbe:g, eheirman of the Div. of Oncology
at Stanford and NCCP director,led off the third in
the Panel's series of meetings on cancer centers
with this list:
Consortium cancer centers require "totally
revised" core grant guidelines and "totally
different" review com mitteae from those presently
applied to all center core grants.
"Efforts to understand consortium centers are
insufficient and deficient, particularly in
understanding the directa:"s authorities and respon-
sibilities," Rosenberg said. "There must be an
admowledgement of the strang prog<ams in member
institutions "
4Core support must be available to support "m ini-
institutions which are members of the center.
Rosenberg was referring primarily to the Integrated
Servioe Areas as develaped by NCCP.'Rt:e NCCP ISA
concept is a successful one but cannot totall~y
depend on local financial and volunteer support.
NCCP had organized nine ISAS which would
have required $125,000 support from NCI. The
request was cut to $50,000, which supported four
1SAs. 71:at amount since has dropped to $30,000,
resulting in only two ISAs being funded. Rosenberg
said the ISAs need abart $30,000440,000 a year each
for a viable operation.
ISAe were developed to deal with the fact that
NCCP covers the large and diversified area of
Nathan Califarnia and Northern Nevada. Each serves
an identilfed "catchment area" 'ihey provide local
leadership in ad3+essing local needs and constitute
bases for collaboration on NCCP's programs.
NCI must reoognise the potential conflict
between arch national programs as the Community
Clinical Oncology Program and the'4mique strengths
of a regional cooperative group outreach progra m,
such as that of the Northern California Oncology
GWNOOGycrg~eI edandaponsored by NCCP,isan
NCl suppsrted regional cooperative group and has had
one of the contracts with NCI's Div. of Cancer
Prevention and Control for a com munity outreach
program.
*77:e Panel and NCI should tolerate, "indeed
encourage," diversity and locel progra m growth and
development. "Regional conditions, needs,resourees
and relationships differ nationally, even differ
within the NCCP region. i am not suggesticg anarchy
or lack of responsiveness and cooperation, but a
balance between the direction of a centralized
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cancer program with potentially worthwhile
individualized approaches."
Rosenberg said that although the term
"borreoMium" is used by others across the country
and by NCI in vaelaus documente and caneer eenter
guidelines, "there is little real appreeiation of
the tn:e nature, needs and potentials of a consor-
tium cancer center "
NCI Director Vincent DeVita, In his opening
remarks, referred to the Georgetown Univ; Howard
Univ. Comprehensive Cancer in Washington D.C.and
the Iilinois Cancer Cameil Comprehensive Cancer
Ceater as other exam ples of consortta. Rosenberg
suggested that those were not consortia centers, at
least In the sense that NCCP is, particularly the
one in Washington.
Rosenbergsaid NCPs Cancer Control Program,
which provided core support to centers for cancer
controlefforts,greatly aided organisation of ISAs.
He noted that NCCP's problems in supporting
1SAs became critical when NCl phased out that
mechanism.
NCCP's oore grant is about $500,000, approxi-
mately 10 per cent of its #5-6 million annual
hudget. Rosenberg estimated that NCl supported
cancer research in the NCCP region totals $50
million. Among NCCP activities cited by Rosenberg
ares
-Operation of the SEBR (Surveillance, Spide-
miologyH:d Results) registryunder contract with
NCI for the five Bay Area counties ineluded in the
natianal SBBR network, "a significant resource for
NCCP and anyone else who would like to use it "
-1lt:ecltnieal research effarts through NCOG and
the Cbmmudty Outreach Pragram whicl: have entered '
about 4A00 patients on pnotooDls sinee 1977. N CCP
alsos&wes as the reeeareh base for the San Joaquin
Valley CCOP.Y1:ere hes been"great oooperation" on
the partof eommwdty physleienawith the program r
Rosenberg said.
-Spidem iology studies "are beginning to take
off" based on 88BR data.
-More dlYifcult to arelyse is NCCP's impact on
basic science. "Centerness is not seen as
necessary; Rosenbeg said,hut eallabaration among
seientists at the member institutions has been
growing. NCCP's aims in the area of laboratory
research are threefold-to foster com muadeation
among scientists en~gaged in basie, applied and
Ninioal cancer researehl to catalyze the creation
of imwvative multidiscipainary, multi-inatitutional
programs and projects; and to provide an organiza-
tionsl framework to develop and adm inistratively
manage multHnstitutional projertaadminisltetively
-Cancer control activities initiated by NCCP
have declined since the demise of the funding
mechsntsm.7he eusrent NCCP anmial report states,

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"Canoer oontrol is in a state of transition at N CCP,
in part as a result of changing emphasis at the
national level. TheRe efforts are moving us from a
combination of service and demonstration projects to
ma+e tdigoraus research into new metlrod4 of acMeving
cancer oontroL More nonfederel funds are needed if
we are to continue to apply proven cancer control
methods in our region."
Rosenberg summarized NCCP's historys "It's
worked "
DeVita aeimd the preemteraat ihe meaftto "be
frank" in their assPSSment of NCCP anid the con-
sortium eono@Pt.
'i9ie existing consortium centers seem less
expensive to operate than single institution
centers, DeVita said. "But if they do not get the
job done, perhaps we should consider replacing them
with single institution centers. If they do work,
and they do cost less, maybe we should go for more
of them "
As he did at the Los Angeles meeting af the
Panel, DeVita cited a number of cancer sites in
which the incidenee and/or mortality in the NCCP
region is higher than the national average. These
ineLrde the overall ineidenee in whites and blacks
which eaoeed the national average; the incidence
among OMentals in the region exceeds that of
Orientals in Hawaii, although the Incidence among
Japanese and Filipinos in the region is lower than
that of Hawaii.
"l think we can explain those differences, and
they are exploitable," DeVite said. He noted that
cancer mortality In 12 ceunties covered by N CCP is
higher thah the national average, despite the fact
that the region has a higher percentage of
physiciarrs tlren the average. "Does that mean we do
better when we have fewer doctorsY" he asked, to the
detightof the 150 persons who paeked the meeting
room, most of them physicians.
8tsdey Parry, NCCP deputy director, although not
disputing Rosenbeg's call for different guidelines
for core grants, pointed out that a consortium
center does fit the present guidelines in many ways,
including leadership, encouragement of new and
imwvative research, and provision of shared
resources. The role of the consortium is particu-
larly important in the eoalescing of activities at
the individual member institutions.
NOCP memba 6alih~tiasare the American Ceneer
Society Calif. Div., Bay Area Tumor Institute,
California Medical Assn., California Dept. of
Health, Central California Cancer Council, Claire
Zellerbach Saroni Tumor Institute of Mt. Zion
Hoepdtal d Medical Center, Greater Contra Costa
Oanty Cancer Program, Greater Sacramento Cancer
Council, Hospital Council of Northern California,
KaiserPermanente Medical Care Program, Northerr
Nevada Cancer Council, Palo Alto Medical Fourr
dation, San Fmncisoo Regional Cancer Foundation
Stanford Univ., Sutter Com munity Hospitals
Univ. of California (Berkeley), Univ. of CaUfornie
(Davis), Univ. of California (San Francisco)
Univ.of Nevada (Reno), Veterans Administratior
Hospitals Region 27, and West Coast Cancei
Foundation.
Donald Austin, director of the NCCP SEEA
Program, said "NCCP is a unique grass roots organ-
Isetion but we need a little more glue to increase
our capacity to accomplish our goals. We need a
wider pmpam in data analysis. Now In NCCP we can
only scratch the surface. It is not sufficient to
rely on ROl grants. We should spend an egual amount
on analyzing data that we do on collecting it. We
need wider cancer reporting and a mechanism for
formal linkage of the providers of health care
withthe implementers of cancereentrol and their
institutions ."
9 take it you are suggesting we need more
oonsortia," DeVita com mented. He asked why such a
smsD amount of money was taken from the eore grant
for 1SAs. "That could be the additional glue you
need "
Rosenberg responded with the information cited
above, that funds for ISAs were out in the review.
"dknow you are looking for a director," DeVita
sffid,referring to the search going an since Rosen-
berg decided to give up that position several months
ago. "You're having difficulty getting one. Is it
difficult beeause you have a different recruiting
pitch to make, or that the director has no authority
over the member insti:utions4"
"We are close to identifying a very good one,"
Raeenbergsaid, but admitted that come prospects
were concerned about the lack of searity. "That has
been a major hangup"
D3Vits,noting that NCOG putsonprotocolsabout
30 per cent of the eligible patients in the region,
said that the radiotherapy protocols have been a
suceess,'but not so much for chemotherapy. Thirty
per cent is low "
"I would have thought that 30 per cent is
exeellent " Rosenberg said. "I think 30 per cent
means we're doing as well as anyone, although it
would be desirable to put on more."
"56ER is one of the best Investments NQ has ever
made," DeVita said to extended applause, with a
number of SEER staff members in the audience. He
aslred again why the mortality rate was higher than
the average eonsidming the number of physicians in
the area.
"'!he cmuse of mortality varies quite a bit county
by camty" Austin replied. As oqe exam ple, he said
that in one county, the death rate from coronary
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disease is high because that is how the coroner
signs out all nursing home deaths.
DeVita asked if the advent of CCOPs has damaged
NCCP's clinical research efforts, with the two
CCOPs In the region competing for patients which
might otherwise go onto NCOG protocols.
Rasenbetg said that the CCOPs use NCCP but "we
have to be careful. They could drain off patients
fiom the potentiSIly weaker NCOG outreach pt+agram "
On whether there should be more consortium
centers, Rosenberg said "It would take an unusual
relationship. We deal with hospitals, institutions,
and individuais. But it should be tried elsewhere "
DeVita suggested that Southern California, with
seven cancer centers, might be a prospect for
another consortium.
Rosenberg said that NCCP meets regularly with
repressentativesof the Southern California centers.
Amolg the items being dLseussed is whether to ejqxmd
NCOG into a statewide group.
Peter Greenwald, director of NCI's Div. of
CanoerPrevention & C9ntrol,commented on the need
expressed by Rosenberg and others for greater core
support for ISAs. "A problem in cancer control is an
absence of a good, critical data set demonstrating
the needs. How can we get that information to help
us base our decisions on expenditures?"
Parry responded that cancer control and cancer
control research needs should be evaluated as
rescxaoes. "iSAs should be evaluated as resources.
We should expand SEER, to obtain more data and
analysis "
Greenwald told The Cancer Letter after the
rmeeting that NCI mightcoanider changing the core
grant guidelines to permit award of more money
for consortia to support ISAs and similar
activities.'Ihat could be among the items being
discussed at the Cancer Center P1anh:nQ Com-
mittee meetings this week.
Jerome Yates, who heads the Centers & Com munr
ity Oneokgy Program in DCPC, said that'pert of the
reason the core grant has done so well Is that it is
tied to the ROl and P01 base. We have to look at
excellence. Do you have any idea how an ob jective,
fair review should be done, tied to exdstitg ROl-P01
support as we have now? It sounds as if the cancer
control effort here has been very sueeessful. That
Is not true everywhere else. Should we go back to
entitlement?"
'7 woukt not tie core sapport to ROls and POls in
the institutions or to those in the consortium
Itself," Rosenberg re4ponded, "Both would be wron~.
There should be somewhere in between. You oan t
answer that simply. It would help if individuals
doing the review had some appreciation of eonsortia
and how they work, and of the opportunities they
offer."
DeVita pointed out that the National Cancer
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Advisory Board has approved revision of core grant
guidelines to permit basing some core grants on
cancer control research, not necessarily ROIs and
POls.
Comments by others atteading the meeting,
ioeluditg members of three dis~.~ussion panels, and
responses follow:
Donald Lyman, head of public health in Cali-
fasnia-A decentralized approach as represented by
NCCP is needed to help achieve NCI's goal of
reducing cancer mortality 50 per cent by the year
2000. in each of the great public health accomplish-
ments which has eradicated a dlease, it was accom-
plished by local people with a consortium to
coordinate the various efforts. Some consensus is
needed by the academic eom munity and elsewhere,
Including NCI, that a project is doable. We do not
need hard and fast documentation to move, but a
ooraensus by the professional oan munity that it can
be done. Finally, we need marketing tools-infor-
mation devices and the paraphernalia to sell
prevention efforts. Part of the marketing effort is
the glue that has been talked about here. I
encourage you (the Panel and NCD to provide it. You
may say, "California is a rich state. W hy ean't you
do it yourself?" To a large extent, we have. Some
other states cannot do it themselves.
Victor Levin, associate director for laboratory
sciences of NCCP and professor of of netav-anoology
at UCSF-NCCP has achieved the formidable goal of
iringing togethersMentists from different institu-
tions, creating a dialogue, learning each other's
terminology, undesstanding each other's problems,
preventing eoln mon frustration. Many informal
oontacts mwhn+ed by NCCP have lad to new research
efforts. Those include oollaborative drug
development efforts and sueeesslVl competition for
oneof the new National Drug Disoovery Group awards
from NCI's Div.of Canaer'Ireatment. The current
oaa'e grant guidelines were established with single
institutions in mind. It would be helpful if they
were modified for consortia. We need flexible
support for new programs.
Edwin Cadman, director of the UCSF Cancer
ResearehTnstitute-NC00 works. The excitement
generated 10 years ago when it was organized
persists.
Joseph Castro, director of the Radotherapy Dept.
at Laweence Berkeley Laboratories-7tie strength of
NCOa is Important. Further efforts to promote
interaction between basic and clinical scientists Is
critical. We must inerease the participation of
surgeons. There is a growing number of surgical
oneologists in the region, but we need the support
and participation of com munity surgeons. We need
to reevaluate the guidelines foreansortium centers.

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It is time for a change In our name. There is
oonfision about what a Narthern California Cancer
Program is. Northern California Cancer Center,
perhaps.
Qarol D'Onoftio, NCCP vice chairman who Is with
the Sclrool of Public Health at UCB-If we sueeeed in
reducing mortality 50 per cent by 2000 AD we need
more effort in rehabilitation. We can't talk about
saving lives without doing something about the
quality of life. 7lat is not unrelated to mortality
reduction. People will seek treatment and undergo
screening earlier if they are confident they will
maintain their quality of life. We need evaluation.
Cancer control programs in the past were
specifically marked not for research, then were
criticized for not having evaluation. W e need money
far program development. We have the capadt:y to do
many more sophfisticated innovations, but it takes
ttme,orgsniration,andghie.Weneed more room to
experiment with different forms of organizations,
such as ISAs. We need tp learn how to develop local
flmds to help a44;ort them. We need research on the
peocess of organizing the com munity, developing
programs and implementing them. We need general
overall efforts to help communities develop
programs in primary prevention.
DeVita-You are absolutely right. In the early
1970s, a lot of people did not know what cancer
cancer is. It was a major mistake not to permit
research. But those things have changed. Some of the
things you suggest are happening.
C>9dman-1Ihe CCOP idea is a good one, but we could
accrue more patients if the power were given to the
consortium center.
DeVita--One of the reasons for CCOP was that
community physicians did not like relating with
centers. They do not like going to centers to be
rewarded. CCOP gives the eom munity physicians
ineentives and some contral. l do not feel we should
force all of them to go to NCOG.
Castro-I'm all for strengthening ISAs. Their
ooniribution has been great. It seems to me the CCOP
approaeh is whatisneeded to inereese the number of
patients on clinical trials.
Roger Miercort, chairman of the Radiation
'Itrerepy Dept.at Washoe Medical Center In Reno-
ISAs are a unique concept. Our ISA is the main
repository for all publications on cancer care in
our area. It coordinates all NCCP programs in our
area. We initiated training oncology nurses and
psrepatessionals.'ltu+orrgh NC00, we have placed 150
patients onp+otacols. We need a stable and adequate
source of funds, from $50-60,000 for each ISA.
Rcbwrt Carlsmr, NCOG exmutive officer and head
01 the NCCPOam maffdty Qrbeadr Pn$tam-ihe ounert
outreach program is drastically underfunded.
Communitypartieipants in N000 outreach are full
members of the group, and equal partners. It is i
rich resource with a broad range for eancei
prevention, cartrol and research activities. Fundini
eontirares to be the single most significant problem
Lrcreased reparting resquire m ents for phase 1 and S
studies is a problem. The high cost of living ir
California is not reflected in the awards. The NG
review ptvicem (of protocols) sometimes takes sir
months. The review of each arm of our Kaposi'i
protocol took longer than the trial. It is difficull
for NCOG to respond to a serious local healti
problem.NCCP and NCOG function very well, with e
spirit of cooperation instead of competition
Current and anticipated problems are surmountable
with the joint efforts of NCCP and NCI.
Phyllis Mowry,prkrcipal investigator for the Sar
Joayuin Valley CCOP headquartered in Fresna-Kerr
Cbmtyhas just been added to our CCOP. Cooperatior
between NCOG and our physicians has been excellent
How can NCI help us put more patients on protocol?
We need to educate the public on the benefits. We
need more support for data collection and analysis,
We are in a good position to do cancer control
research,'lhere is a high content of seleniu m in thE
soil in our area; and we are talking with Dr
(William) DeWys `director of DCPC's Preventior
Program) about a selenium project. We are
aoreidering responding to the RFA farstudies of loM
fat diets for breast cancer patients. We could test
for the anticancer effects of betacarotene. We car
consider such ambitious projects because of the
outstandingseseMists affiliat.ed with NCCP. We neet
toproteet cur programs against the ravages of the
DRG system.
Jonas Richmond, of the UCB Dept.of Nutrition-
The Fut Bay (Oakland, Herkeley) death rate from
prostate cancer among blacks is twice that oi
whites. We need to look at dietary and other factors
in the environment.
Gaald Hanks, director of radiation therapy at
the Rsdation Onoology Center in Saeramento-Eighty
per cent funding of group trials Is an existing
policy Mt must be changed if you want to retain
private sector patients. In a few years, they will
disappear unlessyoupay more of the costs. We need
im mediate funding of carefully screened initial
involvement private groups, at a cost of i10-15,000
each to bring in more private facWties. If they
are screened carefully, three quarters of them will
be long term producers. There is a vast untapped
reaoriree of patients in community private practice.
The level of government funding will play an
important role in tapping this resource.
DeVita, to Mowry-I liked everything you said,
particularly prevention trials by CCOPs. We have
felt that CCOPs, once set up, could be a nidus for
implementing prevention trials. How would you mct
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to the suggestion that ya use only NCOG protocols?
IMowry-Ihaven't thought about it.I suppose that
if there were good reasons presented, we would
consider it. I don't see why that would be
necessary. I think we enjoy our participation with
NSABP and RTOG (in addition to NCOG).
DeYrta-You made an important point on educating
the public about clinical trials. NCI has to play a
major iole in getting the public to understand that
clinical trials are the best way to get standard
treatment plus something that may be better.
DeVita to CarlmrAre N COG protoaols reslistic
and are the prime protocols at the base Inst,i
tions? Are standard protocols used by N
CarJson-Protocols are identified at
imiversities and in the com munities. ProtocoWbr
earlystudies with toxicity problems are donftnly
at the institutions, although I would feel comfor-
table with many physiciens in eom munities perform-
ing those protocols. If anything, com munity
physiciensdo a better job following protocols than
university physicians.
DeVita-On funding at the 80 per cent level, I
agree. We never like to fund less than recom m ended.
We are no loWgoing to do that, depending on how
generous Congress is.
(DeVita earlier had stated that NCI grants
in the 1984 fiscal year would be funded in the 1984
fiscal year at or close to reco m m ended levels. N CI
will pay 35 per cent of approved eom peting grants,
to a priority score of 175. NCI intends to fund
centers and oooperative groups at full recom m ended
levels In FY 1985).
Carl9oo--We expect,on the best time schedule
possible, for protocols to be reviewed by NCI in
five to six weeks. We have found it can take six
months,evar whanonly mmimal clsugesare made.7he
problem seems to be that relatively junior staff
people at NCI are doing the review of protocols
written by senior investigators. The junior people
don't always understand them, and the problem has to
be straightened out with discussions (Carlson
admitted that with the Kaposi's protocol, NCI
review was completed in three months, while the
NCOG review required twice as 1ong1.
DeVita-7tie average tim e of review (by N CI) is
two months. I have told our Cancer Therapy
Evaluation Program people that if they don't approve
a protocol in two months, I'11 opprove it myself
without further review. The Kaposi's protocol had
serious problems.It took five months to come back
to us after our eom m ents. W e,would rather do this
than FDA.1 assure you it Is faster this way. It is
a seriaug cancern, but the delays usually are not at
NCI.
Heii®,cncompetitionbetween groups-When we got
involved with N COG, it was not very interested in
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tadiotherapy qusstions. We were (and therefore most
patients entered into trials from his center were
enrolled in RTOG studies). My impression is that
thet+e has been a significant change. There are now
a fair number, of joint trials with both groups doing
the studies.
Csrl9am-NO0G has foifted NSABP to work jpintly on
a nu mber of protocols, specifically not to dilute
the number of patients.
Sidney Saltsstein, president of the ACS
California Div. and professor of surgical pathology
at Univ. of California (San Diego), on DRG rei m-
ment-'Ib restdet payment for care to a mean
determined in the past is unrealistic. It imposes a
burden on institutions that is not justified.
Wan+en Winkelstein, professor in the School of
PdblEe Health at UCB-7hechergetousat NCCP is to
increase our efforts in education, partieulary on
lifestyle. If we are to be effective at the local
level, we must end this silly policy of a mule with
two heads. It has been known for 20 years that
cigarettes may eause death from ceneer in men, and
now we know thatit al,o kills women. Government
must present a consistent and rational policy and
cease the subsidizing of tobacco growing. It is
encouraging that In the last 10 years, there has
bean a 20 per cent decline in cancer among men wider
age 50. The decrease Is small, but it is just a
beginning. You in Washington have to be more out-
spoken, even If it costs you your jobs as it did
Secretary Califano(when he implemented a strong
antismokirgcampaign while HEW secretary in the
Carter Administration).
DeVita--Is that director's job still open
paaghter).Icouldn't agree more. We'll do the best
we can. It is up to Congress (to halt tobacco sub-
sidies, increase cigarette taxes, control
advertising. See following article).I'm encouraged.
Antismoking campaigns are poppingup everywhere.,
Smoking is an the decline. One of our goals for the
year 2000 is to decrease smoking 50 per cent by
1990. I have been encouraged by the reaction to
prevention efforts. People do want information. They
are enttaaviastic.'ltie food industry is taking up the
aulKel. It is planning a large advertising program
and Is seeldng ways to modifyproduets to make them
less likely to cause cancer.'I'he reception is not
uniformly negative, except for the cigarette
tndustry. I have not heard from them any svggestlons
for redue3ng smoking. 7b the contrary, the industry
Is making an effort to attract children by making
diewing tobaeoo look like bubblee gum.'Riey are doing
this beoause their older customers are dying of lung
eanew and heart disease, and they need yang people
as replacements. g we reduce tobacco subsidies, It
could make eigaretRes cheaper, and we should not
permit that.7te difference ahould be made up for by
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Increasing cigarette taxes and making sure that all
that money goes to eanoar ~eseeeeh and prevention.
Rose Kushner, member of the National Cancer
Advisory Board-There are 25,000 physicians in
Northern l7alifaria and 10 m illion people. There Is
intense competition fcr medkml do11ar8. How many of
the 25,000 actively participate In protocols? What
challenge is there to encourage patients to get
attentlan Immediately? Radiotherapists must have a
machine, whereas any physician with a pad can treat
a cancer patient until he is untreatable. Do you
have that here?
Carlsan--We have no figures on participation. I
aspect that is from 300 to 500. NCOG doesn't have
any doatments to tell physdcians how to adm inister
state of the art treatment outside of a research
setting. NCOG has no funds to support education
programs.
Suslner-11he prchiem Is that oom munity physicians
do not refer patients to specialists until the
disease is advanced.
Carlson-I don't know about that. But we're
impressed by the yuelityof eare in the eom munities.
Isuspeat that many cancer patients are treated by
primary care physicians.
Itaymand Weibag,deirnenof the Cancer Plannirg
Cflalition-It isstandard practice in San Francisco
to refer cancer patients to oncologists.
DeVita, responding to a statement from the
audience, that if he really believes primary pre-
vention will account for half of the 50 per eent
reduction in mortality by 2000, "you will allocate
yaurr,eaoaurees accordingly, and put your money where
your mouth td"-About one third of the DCCP budget
goea into primary prevention. We're frequently
asloed, it 80 per cent of cancer is environmentally
caused, why not put 80 per cent of the budget in
that areP 7he answer is, we'll put every nickel we
can in prevention when good studies are propoead.
Plmel Ohehman Armard Ham mer said the tWl hatse
turnout for the meeting "is vary encauraging:
Referring to the year 2000 goal, he said that even
if It is met, "five million people wW die of
cancer from now until then, at a cost of $16
billion.lfiat is Intolerable. We should aim higher,
for greater reduction, and sooner. Even when you
hcrease survival to 95 per cent, for the other five
per cent, It Is 100 per cent fatal "
'1Me Panel's next meeting will be Oct. 1 in
lbattle, at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center,
Stuart Auditorium. Robert Day, director of the
center, will be the host.
7he final meeting of the Panel's weatern swing in
its review of cancer centers Is scheduled for Nov. 9
in Honoluiu. lawrence Piette, director of the Cancer
Center of Hawaii, will be the host.
HOUSE PASSES COMPROMISE Bi LL ON NEW
CIGARETI' LABELING; SENATE IN DOUBT
A compromise bill acceptable both to hft
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graupsand the tobacco industry-that in itself
amazing feat-lassed the House of Representatih
this week, a measme that would e eplace the 13 ye
oldhealth warning on cigarette packages. The p
wendngs o~sist of faur alternating messages abc
the dangers of cigarette smoking.
11m bill was passed unanimously by voice vol
with only a handUof members present.Its fate
now up to the Senate, where it may have been act
upon by the end of this week unless blocked
tobacco state senators.
The warning which would be replaced stat
aimply,"Wendrg: The Surgeon Geneat hes determin
that cigarette smoking is dangeroas to the healtl
Zhenew wamira each begin with the statemer
"Surgeon General's 9Yarning," followed withi
"Smoking causes lung cancer, heart diseas
emphysema, and may complicate pregnaney,
""Quitting smoking now greatly reduces serio
risks to your health."
a5moking by pregnnnt women may result In fet
injury, premature birth and low birth weight
"Cigarette smoking contains miton monoxide
0, v - non Henry Waxmin, chairman of the Hou
Health 9abeom mittee and chief sponsor of the bil
said the "anTent warning label hasn't been revisi
in over 13 years and does not adequately reflect tt
extent of adverse health effeets caused by smoking
7heircp®ed new wamings would be about 50 per ce~
larger than the old.
7he compromise was worked out last spring t
Cbngreesman Aibert Gore (D.-71snn,)andother Hcee
members with representativefs of the Tobace
Institute and the Coalition on Smoking or Healti
which represents the American Cancer Societj
AmwkmHeart Asan.and American IAung Assn.,amoe
other groups.
7110 compromiae maintained the concept of nea
more specific warnings advocated by the healt
glaps, but was made more acceptable to the industr
by omitting references to addiction, death an
miserrlege that raised product liability fears. Th
labels also will be less visible than originall,
proposed.
H0150HVI,q dc Glxnmeroe ObmmttEee Chatrmemloh
Dingell said he had assurances from Sen. Orrii
Hatch, long a champion of the bill, as well as fron
8en. Jesse Helms, who had been blocking its con
sideration, that the bill would be acted upoi
swiftly by the Senate. However, Sen. Paul'IMble o;
Virginia and others had placed a hold on it
Congress is due to ad journ early In October, anc
failure to act on the bill by then would kill it
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CONGRESS CLOSE TO PASSING FY 1985
MONEY BILL: AUTHORIZATION DOUBTFUL
Cagress is cloae to passing the 1985 fiseal year
appropriations bill for the Dept. of Health A Human
Services, which includes NCI's funding. But
rauthoeiaation of the National Qaneer Act appears
farther away then evet, with prospects of approval
belcreadjoununait next monthgrowingdunmerby the
day.
'Ole Hcuse has passed its version of the HH&Iebor
Bducatian appropriations bill, calling for $1.084.9
billion for N C1 in the fiscal year which starts Oct.
1.'Ilds amount does not include money for cancer
control, construction, or research training. Those
activities were specifically authorized in the
National Cancer Act of 1971 and its subsequent
renewals and are not mentioned in Secticn 301 of the
Public Health Service Act, the blanket authority for
Ni}I.'Itrle Senate t>Iorad the fact that reauthoriza-
tion had not yet been completed, since when si m ilar
situations have come up in recent years, authority
for specific programs has been extended by
continuing resolutions.
Mle Hase Appropriatians Com mittee decided not to
include those items, primarily because of some
eonoern about the construction is9ue. For one thing,
there is no consistency at NIH, with some
institutes, ineluding NCI, having authority to award
construction grants, while others do not.
The Senate bill, as approved by its
Apprapriatkxis Committee, would give NCI $1.188
biiHon next year, approximately $13 million more
than the House would have been with control,
conshuction and training including, depending on
the final figures for those categories. Action by
the full Seaate is im minent. Now the differences
will be resolved, considering the authorization
issue, remains to be seen.
. That problem could be resolved if the Senate
would pass its version of the authorization bill.
That is not likely to happen, despite the smooth
mwe by Harty Wawnan, chairman of the Hane Health
9beommtttee, to oiroumvent the roadblodc thrown up
in the Senate by fetal research issue.
So aalled pro-life senators have prevented Sen.
Orrin Hatch's reauthoeipetion bill from reaching the
floor, but they permitted the Senate to pass another
Hatch bill authorizing a new National Arthritis
Hmitute. When that bill came to the Hame, Waxman
moved to substitute his biomedical reeearch
autlroei~tion bill, which had been approved by the
House, for the Senate measure.7tle House oonmuted,
wtich meeiu that the differelow could be wottced out
In aonfeelenoe and a revtsed ventlcn presented to the
&nate. Hor<tlever, Hatch ltles not appointed the Smte
oonfeteesand Is not likely to unless an agreement
can be reached with the pro-life senators.
Meanwhile, Hatch's committee has 11 other
conferences lined up with the House, and time Is
running out. ,
HHSattonneys feel that a ease can be made that
cancer control, at least, is authorized under
Sertian 301. If House conferees on the appropria-
tiana bill can be convinced of that, cancer control
ilmds could be included without a new authoriza-
tion. In any case, a continuing resolution will be
approved to keep construction, research trahaing
and, if necessary, cancer control going.
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