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Deposition of Dr. Sheldon Sommers [Deposition of Sommers in the Matter of Rogers]

Date: 02 Jan 1986
Length: 67 pages
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THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO AUG. 20, 1985 NON•DISSEMINATION ORDER IN ROGERS AND KE CASES. THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT. ] NO. E-121+4CG 2 I.D. ROGERS, INDIVIDUALLYs IN THE DISTRICT COURT 3 AND AS INDEPENDENT * EXECUTOR or THE ESTATE OF* MARJORIE HELEN ROGERS. +~ 4 DECEASED, ET AL + VS. +~ J R.J. REYNOLDS TOBACCO ~ G CCIMPANY. ET AL +~ JEFFERSON COUNTY. TEXA^ 7 N0. D-122+14^ f{ KAREN R. UUI•:C, ~ IN THE: DISTRICT COUF?T INDIVIDUALLY AND A3 +~ 9 t CXECUTRIX or THE ESTATE +~ . Or EI.AIN(: J. FA3ALAIS. * 1 Cl ~ DECCASED, CT AL. +~ or ' VS. +~ 11 ~ R. J. RCYNOI.DS TODACCO * I COMPANY, CT AL ~ JEFFER^a0N COUNTY. TCXA':~ / 12 I 14 1 DCP031TION 0ar" DR. SHELDON £Ot1MEi;^_. ~ I ]5 ~ VOLUME I i ] F. ~ - -- - _ .. _ _ ... - - - - - - - _ - - - -- - - ! 17 WITNE^ ; IN THf AFlOVE-STYLEt) CAU3C, CALLED BY THC f'LATNT;: (_' . ]< < TAt:EN BEFORE SECKY BEACH, CERT I F I ED ^HORTIIAND REFORTEFZ r-O" l 1? i TiiC STATE OF TEXAS, IN THE OFFICES OF JACOH. MEDINCER : 20 ~ FINNEGAN, 1270 AVENUE OF THE AMERICAS, NEW YORK, NEW YOr:I ', 21 COMMENCING AT 3t00 P.M. ON THE 17TH DAY OF DECEMBER, 190^':. ~2 PURSUANT TO THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS AND WAIVER OF CO!ItJ' r.;.. 23 FURSUANT TO NOTICC'. i4 2!~ ; L_.________TAY.AFtLE COST DUE CY TF4E t'LAINTIFF':'. i1; R1 1t~T CO! ~RT REF`ORTF_'R". C.. lR E FE'# 0,1. `"t s.,7
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THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO AUG. 20, 1985 N0N•DISSEMINATION ORDER IN ROGERS AND KE CASES. I 2 3 4 Af`PEARAN rC Ss THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT. . FiON. DALE K. HANKS TOWNSLEY, BUSH, LEWIS & RAMSEY 3550 FANNIN BEAUMONT, TEXAS 77701 APPEARING FOR THE PLAINTIFFS w J HON. ROBERT r. MCDERMOTT, JR. 6 JONES. DAY, REAVIS & POGUC L METROPOLITAN SQUARE 7 435 1 STH STREET NORTHWEST WASHINOTON, D.C. 20005-5701 8 - AND •- FION. WALTER .I. CRAWI'ORD, JR. 9 WELLS. PEYTON, BEARD, GREENBCRG, c HUNT k CRAWFORD 10 I P.O. BOX 3708 DEAUMONT, TEXAS 77704 11 i APPEARING i'OR VtE DCi'ENrtANT. ~ 12 1 R. J. REYNOLD S TODACC O COMPANY C 23 I•tON. WILLIAM G. ZIPIPIERMAN FUaN. DEBORAN TANNEt? 14 IinN. P'ATRIC•1: ;IF:F;Inr..E f •H00K, HARDY & BACOtJ 1S MERCANTILE DANK TOWECt. 20TH F"LOOR 1101 WALNUT 16 K.ANSAS CITY, MISSC+URI E•4106 I -- AND - 17 ~ 11ADRIAN R. KATZ ! ARNOLD & f ORTEi2 18 1200 NEW HAtiPSHIRE AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20036 19 - AND - FION. JAMES J. SANDMAN 20 ARNOLD & PORTER 1700 LINCOLN STREET 21 DENVER, COLORADO 80203 - AND - 22 HON. LAWRENCE L. GERMER 24 ORGAIN. BELL & TUCKER 470 ORLEANS PEAUMONT. TEXAS 77701 APF'EAR I NG FOFc THE DEFENDANT , PIIILIF MORRI S. INCORFOZaTED CCAUP1ONT COUF;T t!;CroiiT{-F:'. CTR HN 014626
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THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO AUG. 20, r _, 1985 NUN • DISSEn1INATION ORDER THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT. IN ROGERS AND DUKE CASES. I 2 3 HON. JAMES W. RAYHILL HON. TILLIE LIM CARTER, LEDYARD & MILBURN TWO WALL STREET NEW YORK+ NEW YORK 10005 - AND - 4 J 6 7 HON. CHESTER J. WROBLESKI HON. ELIZABETH T. MARREN JACOB, MEDINGER & FINNEGAN 1270 AVENUE OF THE AMERICAS NEW YORK. NEW YORK 10020 APPEARINC F'OR T1iE DEFENDANT, C COUNC IL FOR TOBACCO RESEARCIi-U. :.A. , ~! i HON. GORDON £,r' 1 I TI i KING & SPALDING 10 ~ 2w.00 TRUST CO11`ANY TOWCF: ; ATLANTA, OEORGIA 30303 11 , - AND •• ' HON. DALE DOWCLL / 12 i RIENSTRA. RIENSTRA S. DOWELL ~ 470 ORLEANS 1 ~ BEAUMONT, TEXAS 77701 14 ~ APPCAR I NC rCU: THf nEf ENDANT. BROWN & WILLIAMSON TOBACCO COMPANY 1S, 16 HON. THOMAZ~ E. SEZANSnN r11ADB0URNL. PARKE, W1IITESIDE E. WI)I.F*- 17 ' 30 ROCKEFELLER F'LAZA NEW YORK. NEW YORK 10112 12 - AND - ~ HON. SAM CRUSE 19 HON. JOHN STRAWN ' ANDREWS & KURTH 20 ! 4200 TEXAS COMMERCE TOWER HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002 21 I APPEARING FOR THE DEFENDANTS. 22 AMERICAN BRANDS, INC. AND THE AMERICAN TOBACCO COMPANY, INC. 23 .a VE:.MtaNT CC;;.Ir.T rcErO(;TCi':: L. f R Ht"4 014629
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THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO AUG. 20, THIS DOCUMENT S UBJECT ;" 4 1985 NUN•DISSEMINATION ORDER C4NFIDEMTIALITY AGREFMENT. IN RUGERS AND DUKE CASES. 1 2 ., ., 4 g 6 7 C HON. JOHN 0. BISSELL STRONC<. PIPKIN+ NELSON L. DISSELL SAN JACINTO BUILDING BEAUMONT. TEXAS 77701 APPEARING FOR THE DEFENDANT, LORILLARD, A DIVISION OF LOEW'S THEATRES, INC.. HON. MARGARET ALEXANDER COVINGTON & BURLING 1201 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE, N.W. P.O. BOX 7566 WASHINrTON. D.C. 20044 APPEARING FOR THE PEFENDANT, 9 I THE TOBACCO INSTITUTE. INC. E 10 I I10N. MICHAEL W. HOCUC 11 tJEBSTER & SHEFFICLD 2ROC~ TEXAS COMMfRCE TOWER / HOI t STON, TEXAS 77002 1~ l 1' ~ APfEARINC FOR THE PEFENDANT;, I LIGGETT GROUP, INC. AI4D 14 ~ LIGOETT & MYEFtS TOBACCO COMPANv, Itv,-. 15 I H4td. HUBERT OXFORP BCNOF:CNSTCIN, OXFORD, RADrORD L. JOFIN--_N 1G ALLICC DANK BUILDING BEAUMONT, TEXAS 77706 17 I AF'r'CARING FOR THE DC'FENDANTS, 1c PRICE & COMPANY AND I GROCERS SUPPLY COMPANY, INC. ~•. 19 HON. LIPSCOMB NORVELL ~0 BENCKENSTEIN, NORVCLL, BERNSEN & NATFI:,N 600 INTERFIRST TOWER 21 BEAUMONT. TEXA~mrl 77702 ~-, a. d. APPEARING FOR THE DEFENDANT, GROCERY SUPPLY COMPANIES. INC. ..,, ,... _4 FECI:Y A. BEACId, CST;. RPr BEAUMONT COURT REPORTERS ['A^.TCX_.TCX FFiEEWAY .DEAUMnNT, TEXAS 77703 r•rAUti,I14T COURT F~EF'C~RTE:f.'. CTR HN 014830
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THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO AiiG. 20, 1985 NON•DISSEMINATION ORDER IN ROGERS AND DUKE CASES. THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT. 1 I IT Ia STIPULATED AND AGREED BY AND ECT4JEGN : I COUNSEL FOR THE RESPECTIVE PARTIES HERETO THAT THE WITNE'.-. 3 MAY SIGN TIIIS DEPOSITION BEFORE ANY NOTARY PUDLICI NOTICC 4 OF FILING BCINQ WAIVED, AND THAT SAID DEPOSITION OR AN1' S PART THCREOF. WHEN SO TAKEN, MAY BE USED ON THE TRIAL 01- 6 THIS CAUSE WITIt THE SAME FORCE AND EFFECT AS ir TIIL WITNE:.': 7 WERE PRESENT IN COURT AND TESTIrYING IN PERSON. C ? 1T IS FURTIICR STIF'ULATED AND AGRCCD rY •ANL, DCTWCEN rOliNCCL rOR T11C RESPECT I VE PART I CS HERCT4 THAT T:;": NECESSIT1' F'OR FRCSCRVING OEJECTION. AT THC TIME OF TAVIt1•'• . IS WAIVEri, EXCFFT FOR THE FORM OF T11F: Q1JESTION AND RESroNsIV[NC3S, -OF TH[ ANSWEFi, AND THAT ANV ANn ALL OTt1ER C 10 r * * s * * t r * a * * a . 17 14 LEGAL Ot;JG: T I ON::. TO TH I G DEPOS I T I ON. OR ANY PART THERCQ7• I 1~ MAY EE VR~_ ED AT T1IC T I ME SAME I S SOUCIIT TO BC OrFCREG I N ~ 1!• ! EVIDENCC ON THC TRIAL Of' THI3 CAUrE. 1^; 24 41 24 GE.;UNON'' COLt(:T T:C~ GRTCR'• CTR HN 014B31
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~ THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO AUG. 20, 1985 NuN•Uca3EiiiNATIUN ORDER j IN RUGERS AND DUKE CASES. I 1 2 3 4 z i 6 7 C THIS 0 CONfjplA~~ SuBIECT TO AGREEMEHT, REFO RTER'S NOTE+ WHEREUPON TIiC WITN[Sti WAS SWORN IN BY ROBERT S. ORDMAN. NOTARY PUBLIC FOR THE COUNTY OF NEW YORK. NOTARY NO. 4519441. DR. SHELDON SOMMEFtS. HAV I NG F I RST BEEN DULY SWORN, TEST I F I ED AS FOLLOW:?•, TO• •wI T: MF:. HANKSt WE'RE GOING TO IiE TAKINC, THE 10 ~ DlCP`O sI T IOtJ or DR. SHELDON C. SOMt1ER'= . DO YOU HA VC ~ 11 1 ANl' ODJCCTILtN TO OUR USE or THIS TEXAS COURT REF`OF2Ti #-; I TO TAI:C DOWN TIi~.' DEPOSITION? ]•C MR. RAl'F:ILL: NO, WE DON'T. I ASS!It1C i ]4 ~ TIiAT T!•It:, DCro:ITION, THE TRAN3CRIf'T, AN1 Tlli••'. 1J I I DOCl1MCNTS THAT BECOME PART Of TH IS nEF'OS I T I ON AFtf i'•~ I ~UDJE~: T TO THE AUGUST 20 ORDERS OF JUDGC TFIOMA :. AN",! 17 ` JUDGE I:I f4r,,, THAT THEY W I LL NOT SC D I S SEM I NATm ~ 13 UNTIL EURTHER ORDER Or TIfE COURT. lt: MR. HANKSI THAT'S rINr-. DO YOU HAVE AN•i 20 OBJCCTION TO JUST HAVING ONE TRANSCRIPT PRCPARED 21 AND FILFD WITH THE EXHIBITS ATTACHED IN THE f:OGEF;'-!' 22 r.ASE AND EVERYONE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT CAN PL-- ~? USi'D IN Tf,[' DUi.'C GA~E, ALSO^ ~ ^d M~•:, F:Al'LIIt.Ls T1IAT'a FIt1C. j MR. I~ANt'^s I'M COINC. TO 00 F,ttGAa ANr. L"•; DEALiM~ INT COURT RErOr',TCR'; [_. 1 R F 1!'°F 014832
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I ( THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO AUG. 20, THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO 1985 NUN • DISSEir1INATION ORDER CONFlDENTIALITY AGREEMENT. IN ROGERS AND DUKE CASES. 1 1% THE tiAHC EXIIIDITS TIiAT WE USED IN Df:. HOCK[TT'L• DEPOSITION. WE'RE GOING TO USE THE SAME NUMDERIN~ SYSTEM. DO YOU HAVE ANY PRODLEM WITH THAT? 4 MR. RAYHILLI NO. JUST SO LONG AS YOU DO C S E• IDENTIFY THE C.T.R. PAWL' NUMDER3 SO THAT IN BOTH DEPOSITIONS READERS WILL UNDERSTAND 4/HAT DOCUMENT•_• 7 i ^ ~ . ^! YOU'RE SPEAKING OF. MR. HANI:Ss I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY 11C,'JC TttE EXttIDIT3 ATTACtICD TO DR. 3OMMLRS' DEI'OSITION, :i~ 11 At_£:-D. TFIE-V WILL .0.M.T DC THF' SAMC NLttiGE-f;INC• SY.-TC:tt. , / I 1~ EXAMINATION ( 1^ . 14 F•e Mr.. HANt; : : 1` Q u1ULr YOU CIVE US YOUR F'ULL NAMC t-OR TttC F2EC:Gf;E+, 1/. PLCA'3C. I 17 ~ A C I RST NAPtE ^I ICLItiON, S-{ 1-E-L-D-O-N, M I DPL.E NAMf 1? CHARLES, C-H-A-R-L-E-S. LAST NAME COMMERS, l ~ I 0 WHEr;E DO YOU LIVE. DR. SOMMERS? A t10ME AnDftES^, CAMI+RIDOE. C-A-M-C-fi- I-D-G- E_. WAY, ^'' ! W-A-Y. ALPIN[. A-L-P-I-N-E. NEW JERSEY 07/:20. i ~' 0 L1F'. S4MMEr.^_., WOULD YOU GIVE US A Sf:IEF DCSrf:IF'TIOta ft.^ yiil; r% EDUCATION:.L. BACKGROUND STARTINr WITH YOU^ Ui4tcRt:f::,D! tATC WOF21:-' PE:,UMUi1T COURT REf"GRTCr: L, 1 E°q+ t tN 0146331
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t 4 1 I THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT T0 AUG. 20, THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT 1Or 1985 NON • DiSSE~•IiNATION ORDER CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT. IN ROGERS AND DUKE CASES. 1 Q I WENT TO HARVARD COLLEGE. GRADUATED IN 1937 WITH 2 A BACHELOR OF SCIENCEi WENT TO HARVARD MEDICAL 3 SCHOOL. GRADUATED WITH AN M.D. IN 1941. 4 0 WOULD YOU GIVE US A DESCRIPTION OP' YOUR EMPLOYMENT S I HISTORY IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER, PLEASE"' E•~ A I WAS AN INTERN IN MEDICINE AT THE UNIVEf;;ITY Oi 7 I CHICAGO CLINICS CALLED DILLINGS, D-I-L-L-I-N-G-S• 6,~ ^! HOSf°ITAL. CHICAGO. JULY. 1941 TO JUNE. 1542. I WENT IN THE ARMY AT THE CND Or JULY, 1942, CAMC 10 I OUT. AtdD WAS ON TERMINAL LEAVE UNTIL MARCH, 1946. i 1l. ~ I APRIL., 1^4e• I DCCAMC A RESIDENT IN PATHOLOGY AT N::W C 1= ~ CNC:LAND DCArONE^Z, IIOSPITAL. BOSTON. AN^ WA'•; THCP2C 1 UNT I L.1UNE Or• 1; 41. FROM JULY TO DG:CaH3;_,• 017 1^4^ 34 1 WAS; A RESIDt't.:T IN f ATHOLOGY AT THE FF;('E I.n^FITA~. . C 1~ ~ I FO;2 WOMCN. DRnOF;LINE, MA;3; AhD 14, FROM JANUARY TO JUNE OF 1949, I WA^_. A RE:' I DENT I N I 7 I PATHOLbCY AT DOSTON LYING•-IN HOSFITAL. THEN, IN JULY OF 194^> UNTIL JUNE OF 1950 I WAS A RESIDENT IN 19 :n I~ I CLINICAL PATHOLOGY, HENRY FORD HOSf-ITAL. DCTROIT. IN JULY OF 19Z0 I RETURNED TO THE NEW ENCLANLi 21 DEACONESS HOSPITAL AS A STAFF PATHOLOGIST, AND I 22 REMAINED THERE UNTIL SEF'TEMBER OF 19!;3. AT THAT TiMC I BECaM': TIIE CHIEr OF THE LAAORATOF;Y AT W A.:T 2 a W;,^• TttEN .r;-;LLCI! MA!~^ACttU,CTTS MEMORIAL I,G::f`ITAL'• 2~ ^TON: AND I REMA I Nt'D THERE UNT I I_ 1>:• 1. 114 DENUMOtdT -rnURT REF'Ot;TE'F•; C: R_ HN 014834
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THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO AV',, 20, THIS DUCUtiErir SUBJECT TO 1985 NON-DISSEiJINATION ORDER CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT. IN ROGERS AND DUKE CASES, % I 2 3 4 s BECAME, THE PATHOLOGIST AT SCRIPPS, MEMORIAL FIOSPITAL. LA ..fOLLA, SPELLED L-A ONE WORD, J-O-L-L-A, SECOND WORD. CALIFORNIA. I REMAINED THERE UNTIL 1963. IN 1963 I RETURNED TO NEW YORK AND BECAME THE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR AND THEN LATER DIRECTOR Or PATHOLOGY AT DELAFIELD, D-E-L-A-F-I-E-l.-~1• NO SP I TAL , NEW YORI ; AND WAS THERE UNT I L I N 1960 I BECAMC THE DIRECTOR OF LAGORATOF2IEG AT LENOX, L-E-N -0 -X, tiILL HOSPITAL+ NEW YOraV. ANn I jo F:Cs,IGNCD ri:0m TFI[r:C IN TItE CND Of ALtGU': 11, 1?01 . , 11 i Ff:QM ^aEFTEMDEt:. 19^1 UNTIL THE PRESENT, I At1 i: SCIENTIFIC I1Ii:E"CTOR. COUNGIL FQT TCIEACGO R[S[Ar;CI% i" O HAVE VN.! [VER 61'•1Ctd A DEPOSITION D`rar•.C, LiR. 14 ^-•OMMCF: S.? 1 r A TWICE DZF0 RC. 14. C!' WHEN WOULT? I IAVE FCCN TFtC F I RST T I ME'' 17 i A THZEC OR FOUR YZARS AGO IS MY MEMORY. iC, ( Q D0. YOU I:NOU THE NAMC Ot' THE CASC^• 1~ ~ A NO, I DON'T REMEMBER THE CASE. I DON'T REMEMBER 20 ~ THE LAW rIRM. ~ 1 A DO YOU REMCMflEFt WHEi:E THE DEPOS I T I ON WAS G I VEN^. 22 I A N0. ~~ n DO YOU I'NOW TNC NATUf:E Or TME' CASE? ?.4 ,'•, Y~:.. IT WAS A MALPRACTICC CAS~. 2° r 41HAT A£O11T T{tE SCCONn TIME YOU GAVG A TiEf'oCITIGN, rZr;t it10NT COU^T RCF`0RTCR -; CTR- HN 014=83S
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THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT T0 AUG. 20, 1985 Nwl-WS5Ei.I1NAiIUN ORDER IN ROGEK~ AND DUKE CASES. THIS DOCUMENT SUBJECT TO CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT. ic• I WI ICN WAS Tt IAT''' ~ A THE SECOND TIME WAS WITHIN TH E LAST FE W MONTHS. 3 Q DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THE C ASE? 4 A CASES ARE OFTEN CALLED BY THE NAME OF THE 8 G COMPLAINANT. THIS CASE WAS C CASE+ G-•A-L•-P-R--A- I--T-H. I TH ALLED INK. THE GALBRAITII 7 O 13 TNIS OUT IN CAL21-0RNIA? ~ A TttC CASE. I nCLIEVC, IS FCING CURt'c ENTL 1' TFtIE'ri Ir, / ^ f i CALIFORNIA. ' 0 HAVC YOU CVCE: TCSTIFIED IN CO URT R EFOR C^ L I YE3. tiOW MAN'ti' T I Mf -^•^ 1: ~ A AT ArC TWCLVf' I u:.' A WITNESS TO A N G;lJ TONOE;It.C i 14 ; i ACCIDENT. Tt1AT tiA: THC FIRST TIME . £ CTtJCEN AND 1980, I AF'f CAf'ED I N COURT APFR OX I t 1ATELY F I VE' TIMES, ONCE A:: AMICU3 CURIAE. r 18 C! 1 DID YOU EVri: Ai'f EAR AND TCSTI A CLAIM ArAINST A CIGARETTE M FY IN ANUFA A C CTUf ACE INVC+LVIN:- .ER? 1^ 20 MR. RAYHILLI IN CO URT? 21 MR. HANK3= YES. « .^._'• A ONCE. -d 4 r, WII::N N:- : TI I:,T.` ^.Z ; A IT 4JA^_• n.'["f; TEN 1'CAf;' AGC-. MAYFI- i'If TfLN. ur_A11NnNT rOI'r;:T R[PO^T[:R'': R.r t R !! F"t 014B3G7

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