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S 1o~8@ CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--SENATE October22, 2~35
The poorer the ~'orhan, tha less Hkely effect, I th~r.k t~t L~ what this rex- co
cornp~nie~ ha~ Ie~d to the deve!oF-
sheiato~ok~ ~Lion~tempti~g~odo.~dindoL~g i~e~t of t~e ~'~obgce~* ~g~ In~-
In ~y, ~. President, there
are m~r~- re~o~ wl~y ~$ cig~e~te
ta-"a ~hould be :~e~L Whll~ m~.ny
Gtah~- ~,~-<~ hal~e been incr~ed L~.
recent year~, the ci,~.rette t~x ~ de-
elmed s~'n~ic~altly £a real cerm~ over
~he decade~ Tile eo~ of smok~n~--~
terras of do~$ and i~es--is L~ge. ~n~d
ra~ing the tax ~ll reduce ~e
u~age, p~rzlcu~zly among young
~eo~le.
S~, ~r. I~es~den~ I ur~ ~ha~ the
~e~t~" SL~I~Oi'~ thL~ 8~lelz~1~t. no~
orAy for ~he ~eason~ ~hat I hm'e of-
fered-not only bemuse i~ will reduce
health e~re costs ~.nd reduce ~he ~axes
th~ ~21 h~.ve to be p~id in fu~dre
year~ to pay for the he~kh care cc~
~ssoemte6 ~th ~mo~an~. not only b~-
cause k~d~ ~ tb~s eeuntrlr ~ou1~ be
~pare~ the he~l~h t~Ye~.t ~hzt cig~-
7g to 80 me-*'a~nt of people sa~Do~ this
k~nd of a ~ax ineresse, no~ orgy ~e-
so, I would ~oln£ our that i~ i~ ~ re~oTes-
sire ta.'u I£ b/is hardes~ on £ho~ }e~st
able to pay. Pr~)bably ~okh1~, ~;lle ~h-
er one !ike$ it or not. i~ ~he iu~r~ of
gh~ ~orking men ~md workm~ woman
Lu ~h~ ~ountrF, and ~hose ~ ~he lower
end o~ the econcn~ S~ale. s~ is tmle
~i~h ~n~ re@Tessive tax bear the Erect.
burden of it•
"~.~ ~ea!t hy, ~I~ rl¢/l. ~ho~e who ~re
SUbstmn~i~/]y well of~, pay ~. bit more
for • D~e~g~ Of e/g~e~tes, o~ eOUI"S¢.
bu~ they will no~ have grea~ coneem
absu~ It.
I tblnk ~naliv I woul~ note..~.
PreSident, ~ha~ ~his Dar~ieu~ gac "kage
is ~. c~" ~L~ly craf£ed on~ of compro-
mise, ~rying to deal wi~h this issue of-
~x~ior~ as weL~ s.s ~o de'a/ wi~h the
general Lssu~ of the tobacco pr o~l-am_ I
think ig is in the best interest of sll
jecte~
I appreciate the o~portun~F U)
c~use i~ ~ould held reduce ~he dell- s~esk~oiL
ci~--but because. Air• ]:)re~/dent, sooner ~r. lC~esident, since 1982 when th~
orla~ertheE~en~tev~o~reco~,I cigarette ~xcise tax w~ ine~ed
bel~'e. ~uDpor~ng this ~nd of ~n~nd- f~om 8 ¢~nta to !~ ce~. consumers of
men~. An~ f~on~ mF pe~ec~, ~he ~h~cco prod~c~ h~ve borne an ~nordi-"
sooner ~hebet~en n,~e ~h~re of ~he ~xe~ that ~e L~-
M~ PACI~VOOD addressed zhe posed st ~ ]ev~ of gove~en~. ~t
year ~moxer~ D~d Federal, S~e, and
The PRESIDIN~ OF~C~. The
M~ PAC~WOOD'. I ~eld to the
M~ FO~D. M2. President I w~u/cl
lik~ to have i minute ~o rebu~ ~e Sen.¸
a~or from New Jersey. lTia~ is all i~-
wou/d tak~
Mr. E-4~T add~e~ed zhe C 7~a h'.
Th~ PP.ESID~G OFFIC~ (Mr.
WI~ON}. "~h~ 3enamor from North
Mm~ EA~'I~. Mr*. ~eslde~t. l shS2d be
br~el~ ~nd probabl~ we ~'e overlndU~g-
ing the sub~ec~ rantO/y. I will n~ ~Z-
~empt ~o enlarge on ~n~ ~zr'd~4~-
mensiot* of i~. Aside fro~ the goo~
points ~ha~ h~ve ~d~ad y b~ m~de h)"
my diSt/~d collea~'ae abou~ ~he
cig~r~t z- ~aac% t e osccc-vroduc~
~tat e~ one thin~ I f/n(~ ~rou~mm i~
th/~ ei~o~ fs yat~ ~ ~ to m~/~, it
c~c~r~ to me. aocompL~h ~rahibitio~.
by tax~dan. ~n~ i ~h£n~ the ~enazor
from Ne~ Je-)~ey ~ conceded that
the ~he~ L~ ~ ~h~ le~ people
cc~surn~..
L query wh~ther th~. is n@t ~n a~tL~e
o~ the r~enu~iag system whe~
lees/ governmen~ more than $9 b!l*
llon h% Zsx rever~e. ThiS is ~le~.rIy
~*hree %Jmes ~,he ~tn.ou/%f_ ottr smaPl.
s~rugglhng ~ob~eeo farmers made /or
the£z 188~ cr o [~-
The increased exc~se tax h~ hut8
moa~. tl~e ~eopl~ wh~ ~e less~ ~ble to
I~my~ R~ently, l~of. Glen Ch~Dpelk of
Eas~ Cazoktn~. Unlver~i~y relesaed m
Study on ~he impac~ of ~ob~ceo t~xes~
part of Which I ~uot e:
sources o~ add/~ionsl r ~eD/~ e~, thelz km DOSI~
~/01] ~ not ~i~ou). ~i~¢ ~/rpr/sin~ ~ ~2~tive
t0rc co~mer d~zsions, z~nc} reduc~ o%-et~
ecn~n~ We~er~ PutTth¢iTaore, to~
~ ~ fr~tahle borer t~au~e lh~ d~
the *.~ ~o~ ~'~cts ~nd~ b~'~use the
~m~a~c~ ~ am) t~x~ s/~ ~s~
CO~D%ZS~ ~ Laxg~r ;)0rf~0~ el D~ and, n~-
n~mty centimes' budget s.
~U~ n~ ~ fh".0, mysell in a ~tr~n~
pr ~me~a ~ ~l (~der tc) ~ the TO-
b~c~ Prog~.m ~hm~ L~ so ~nt~d~ ~@ the
~-~ o~o~e2, Of ~J~ St ~.~es. i m~sz ~uppo~
the re%me excise tax ~h~ h~ dsmage~
no~ on/y the economic w~e of 5~)
provement AC~ of 1985. Tlus legusia*
dora L~ c:i~l~'~/ to the long-I~,'m, we!l-
bein@ of th~ irn~or)~t part of the
American ~Ticuisura indus:ry, and
tha~ ~S W~Y ig should, be ~¢luded tn
~he budget r ec o nc'2J.~.ti0n.
i~r. l~esidenL once a g'~/.~. our t obac-
than the~ fair ~hare of cuts and .'~-
ductions SO t~ t~y ca~ Drese~'~
the~ }ix~Ith~d~ WIthsut L~S le~-~L~
tlon. I fesx. tobacco farmers emsHy
eosld lose th~ li':elihood. I strongly
urge ml" eollea gue~ to join with me L~
su~or~ing this e.'/tic~], leg%SlS31on.
The PF~ZS~DLNG OFFICER. ~.Vho
yields tLme.~
3~'~ C I#_~.m ~ addressed the Chair.
The P!%F.~.IDI~G O.~2ICE~. Tke
Sen~t or f2am ~hed~Is]m~d.
l%.t.-_ C~L+~E. 1~r. President. I ¢on-
Wn~ulate ~he di~[n~uished ~ena~or
~r~t New Je.~_ey for hi% remarks_ I
~hought. they W~re r~ght, o~ tar~'st.
%qhat Lhi~ amendmen~ is all about,
~r. i°z~s~de~it. ~ ~l~mm-~on. is th~
Aa has been pointed ont e~.r1~er. ~. lot
ha~ been $~/d o~ t-hls amand~en~. I do
wa.n~ to thamk those. ~'hs have sl~ken
favor o~[ it. It. seer, stC Lne "xe a2e"
~E ki-~g, tw~ points here.
~re rLu-~in~ these h01Tet!d0uS dificit$
evez~I ye~.r, everT ~ddi~iOtlal eenl.
Cve~ dollar, every millisn or hiE[on
dcllat~ we can achieve i$ good for.the
~econd. this is m heahh measure~ 2.
vo~e in f~.vor o~ ~hi$ ~nendment is a
vote ~o }m~rove ~he he~d~I~ of our
Nat~cn. There ts a dlree~ corr~l;~tion
~e~ee~ )~he size Of the ta~; :~l~d ~he
o~o~r~ of smoking, s.~d partlc~I~r}~
in com~ee~Jo rt wiZh y~un~ people. The
~un~ ]~eo]~e ~e i~ ~he W:O~ th3~. do
no~ ka~'e e~oU~h f[nan~a~ ~lasti~ty ~o
theF csn ~nti~ue to) bu+y ~'e~tes ~ I
~he m~e~sed Drlce.
As ha~ b~en Doln~ed~ c~r. When we
wen~ f%om ~ to 16 cents. ~here ~-a.~ ~
fai~'IF dramagi¢ dem~ase "in ~he
number Of young ~op~e Who Were
sm~o]r2n ~. who to~ t~ smoKin~ or ~on-
bnued smog.
tee. Ther~ h~ ~. vote of 10 ~ ~ ~n in-
TIUS ts ~ t0t~k of 24~ cent.
I ~h~nk an ybod~ ~ho h~s ever had m
you simply t2~x ~me~hing out of exist- mizen Americ:u~ who choose t~
rel~ive, ~ ftlend, or ~r~ acquafntance
erm-e. I~ ~e w~ to g~ to prob/~d~ox*. ~oKe~ bu~ ~o ~ eeonomJ~ ~e/fs2E-
or h~ seer) ~.~y~ody WhO s~ffer~ froiA
perhaps we m/gi%t ~r~ a eo~itution~/ of nearly 700.000 families whe ~ d~-
emD~ysen1~ which ~o me ~ one of the
~mendment sa we did wi~ drinking rt~ly en~e~ tn ~rodueing tobacm)~
rnos~z~ghtenin~aHment~.I h~ve se~n,
some deles o.go. and Io}iow tha~ the ~75,000 ~"ail~ larrn~ tha~ deDen~
or who ~ ~een I~v~c~ one& s~ff~l~
rc~e. ~). i ~ troubled wher~ }~ L~ art tobs~co for tbelr i~elihoo4s, an~f
f~o~t c~'~c~rof the lu~l~s, cancer of the
admitted by ~hose ~u~por~n~ t/le ~r ~he ~,00~. wcrke~ who earn ~heir
chest, the hear~ ailments that ~e 9x-
~b~h~D~.~Do~eofiL~(~btm~mbou~ livingm~nuf~eturin~tob~'co_ so~4ated~th~ok~ wiHres/~zat.ha~
tha pro~ubi~ior* oi tcb~cc~ ~mo~ng. I In we~=~ing a~ oi these factor~ I ~e ought ~o see~. tr~ ~d
rapI~mz ~m
W0~d prefe~ g':eater in~ellec~u~/ hen- ~ ~ s~t'~ ~he T~b~..~co k~'~.~:am ~rnendme~t~
esty ~ v#hieh we simply set out by i~ the mo~. im~or~sn~ ccnsidera~n. I~ i~ not ~c[zr~ to
s~Ive ~he problem
some s~hem~, legis]~.~Te Or coD~$it~- Th~ l~=~e ¢onts/n~d it* ~h!s b~Idget, eom~) et~ly bu~ i~ ~d
hel;) I I/~ 5~..
tion~l ~m~ndmemL an~ Drob/hi~ tl%e reconciliation pham is ~he resul~ Of a c~lle~gu~tm s~t)Dorz th~s
~ma~idment•
smoking of ~obacco. I d~ n~t suppose ye~'s won~. kf~ny long mee~s be- ~r. PAC~TW-OOIX i ~d i rnlnu~e
an.vone v~uld s~gporT. ~h~ But~ ~m tv,'een~rowe~i~.~(~ tob-~ totheSenazorfr~K~n~tnc~F"
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October 22, 1,$$d CONGI~ESSIONAL RECORD -- SENATE S 137S7
The ~SIDL~G OP~IC~R. The Jng amendment, because It is not ger- The PRESIDI2TG O~x~EI. CER, The
,~.e~ator from Kel}r.ueky,
-'vlr. FORD. Mr. President, as
Ba~TiiJ~ said. there ~ s. sucker baits
every I!~iIlt/t~, He forgot to tell us
~bout the people who were looking for
him.
The t ob~¢co companies a~ not going
to reduce their ~bi/]ty to earn i~¢ome,
What. they w111 d0 is buy cheaper to-
bacco, foreign tobacco, imported to-
bacco.
This tax is a question of saying to so-
ciety th~.t we are going to pu~ you in
the social beh~.vlor are~. we v;an~ you
in by t~xing you trod by pa.~mg a l~w
here In the great deliber~tive body of
the U.S. Senate. Tha~ in my o~tnion,
is wrong. Thr~ is a/l this tax is abouL
trying to force smokers Jn~o a particu-
l~$r See]ill environ~tent, or sacra[ he-hay-
for by this ~ay,
It is wl-ong. They will fred a wa7 to
get around it. They Wdl bring ¢2a im-
p(~rts from i~oreigoI~ coui2£ri~$ t~at v.q}I
h~ve pesticides and chemicals that. we
do riot W~Lrlr~ ~ ~grlcoLlrage ]T~y col*
leagues to vote agains~ this ~Lmend.
The P~ESIDING OE~[CER. Who
yields %ime?
tvlr. PACKWOOD. How much time
remains. Mr. President?
The PRESIDING OF~:qCER. The
~ena~or from Oregon ha~ iI too-rotes
~nd I0 seconds. The Seas:or from
~hede Island ha~ 29 minutes and 45
seconds.
~Ir, Cf~LA2'EE; I suggest the absence
of a quommn and ask that It be
charged e ~.~ally to h~h sides.
The P~ZSIDINO OEICER. With-
OUt objection, it [s SO ordered. The
clerk wifl call the tell.
The le~/~.tive assi~tan.t proceeded
~O ~.II ~iae rO]L
Mr. DO:vIENICL M/r. l~restdent, I
a~k unanimous con~ent that. eke order
for the quorom call be r e sore.deal.
The PRESIDING OFI=XC~R. WKh-
o~ ob~e~ion, it is so ordered.
M~r. DO~tEhqCL Mx. President, I
ask the dLst~ngUi~hed ¢tmin~a~ of the
F~na~ce Committee if he will :4old
bae~ the remainder of his lime,
t~%r. I=AC~'AVOOD. M2. Fresident, I
am happy to yield ba~k the remainder
of my time to the chairman of ~he
Budge~ committee.
M~. DOMbqCI. Mr. President. how
r~HCh ~Ji~e reIT~!n8 ]iI~der the conbl-ol
el the Senator from New A~exico Stud
how much under the control of the
Senator from ~Rhode Island?
The pRESIDI210 OFPICEI~.
%'%ven~y-slx minutes, fifty-five sec~nd~
re~aL~ ~der Lhe conI2ol o~ t~l@ Seas.-
tot from ~hode L~lan~: 5 minu£es
under the control of the Sen~.tor Irom
."low Mexico,
lit. DOMENICL I am prepared to
yield back the remainder of my time if
the d~stin~n~hed Sen~.r~r fr¢~m ~.h~e
IM~nd is.
Mr, CH:L~E~. 51r. ~residen~, I yie!d
back the remmnder of my time.
Mr. DOId~I~qCL Mr. i~resident. I
make a ~olnt of order that ~he ~end-
ger~n~ness.
Mr. DO.~¢~ICL Mr. President, I
woUld like to table the motlon ZO w~Ive
the g~rlTlallene.~ reftuiremen~, SO
would be pleased to yield back my
tlme.
Mr. CH~. I ask for the yea~ ~.nd
nays, M2. President.
The PRESIDLNG Ol;F'xc:~. Is
there a ~ufficient second on the
mOtOr1 to W~iVe?
There ~s a sufficient second.
The y~,~ ~nd nays Wel'@ ordered.
Mr* DOIvL~TICL ~r. PresidenL
there Is a motion--
Mr. CI~. ~. President, nexL
t!:e Senator from New ~eNico i~ go iI~. g
tO mOVe tO table my motioi$. Thee iS
satisfactory With me. I m ~repared m
yield back my time if he i~ on th~s
de~at~ on gerr~l~neness.
The PRESIDING OFFICEI~. I~ all
time yielded back?
Ms'. DOM~.NICL ,%,It. President, I
Nteld back the remainder of m;' time.
Mr. Clq~. I yield back the re-
m~inde~ of ~y raffle,
The PRESIDING ONCER* .~II
time has been ~ielded b~ci~ on the
nlot[on to % ~ive.
Mr, DO~MENqCL I s.~k for the yeas
a21d Fi~',,S on l~y 1T~o~i0n to l@.y o11 the
fable tile r~o~io~ to v.'a[ve section
305(b)(2) of the Budge~ Act.
The PI~ESIDINC- ON~C~R, Is
there a sufficient second? There is a
sufficient second,
The ye~ and nay9 were ordered.
~r, C!L~EF~ Mr. President, before
we go to the vote, I think if t~e ChMr
could p~i~f. Ol/t Wtlat Vote does what.
on this motion to ruble. The motion to
waive the Budget Act is • vote no on
the motion to table. ~m I correct?
The P~ESlDr~ OFFICEI~.. The
pending question t~ the motion of the
Senator from New Mexico to table the
motion Of ~h.e Sem%tor from Rhode
Island to waive tile Budget Act re-
quirement,
Mr. CHA/~CE. So those in facor Of
+,he increm:e in the cigarette tax will
vote no on the motion to table*
The PRESIDING OFPICER. The
Chair is exceeding i)~ prerogative in
respor~dlng to the question of the Sen-
ator from Nhode ~lzma.
mane to the reecneiilz:ion bill, as pr0- qllestien is on ~greeing to Lhe moLio~
:idcd in section 305(b)(21 ef ~he Con- of ~P.e U2enator **ram New .%~exieo
r-o
~'e~si~n~l ~udget Act of 1984, is out of lable the mo~lon of the Senator frc:n
order. I%hode Island. The y~ znd nays have
~!r. CEL~ .'dJ. Preside~L pLUSU- been ordered. The c£erk ~L1 call tP.e
~.n~ to section 904thl of the ~udget roll
A~t, I move t~ w~iv¢ the germaneneta The le~slative clerk called the r0I!.
requirement contained l~t Section ~r. ~I~IPSO.~q. I a2"a%oul!ee th~.t
th~
305(b) of that a~2t for the eonslder- Senator fr~ra ~%Ii~.~uri [.NIL D~.~-
ation of mF pending amendment. ~] and ~he ~enator from M~r~'.
The PRESIDING O~CEI~. Under land [tIr..N~a~H~$] are nece~ar~y
the Budge~ Ac&, there is i hour ef absent.
debate every divided on the motion. Me. CRA.X/STON. I am~0u~e that
Mr. DOM~ICL ~Ir. l=Tesident., if the Senator from MJssauri [Mr. gaOLS-
the Senator is prelim-red to ylaid back
hL~ time, I am p~epazed to yi.ld~ bach ~0N] and the Senator from I~awail
• [Mr. l.~ouvE] are necessan!y absent.
i~/ne,
~,ir. C~A~E. I would llke to have a The P~.ESIDING OF~P!C~, Are
roEcall vote on my motion to waive there any other Senators in the cham-
ber d~iring to vote?
The iesuI~ wa.~ ~noumced--ye~ 66,
nays 30, a~ loll~w~:
[Rollc~l Vote NO. 240 Leg.]
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MClCh~."
Andre~ Or ~.~r~
M~tze~aum
.~roa~ Gra~le~
MurK~w~i
Biden Har~/n
Nick~
Boron 1~ar~
Nu~m
Burape~ ~s.v,,xm~
packwoed
B~d He~hl
Pre~!er
Cn~les Hefi:n
Pryot
CCC*~a Hem~
Quayle
D'~az~ ~leEin~
RucLn:~.n
De.;on Joh:~n
S~c p~on
Dole K~rr7
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D~rnemct I~x~It
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EXert Ma~t [~y
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p~a~ f~e!d ~ec~e~e~ler
Br~,.d~eF
K~nned~ Roth
B~Ie~C~
I~ule~be~ Sarbanes
Ch~ce
Loony S~acm
CohcI~
Le~q ~t~c~er
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NCYr %r0TL'~G--~
Inaave
51azhi~
So the rao~ion to lay on the table
Wa~ agreed to.
_%It. PACII%VOOD. Mr. President, I
!I~ove 50 ~o~ider tile vote by w~ie~
~.he IZlOtion [O ]~y on the t~bIe %%-o~
agreed Io.
.~Ir, DOMENICI. Mr. President I
move to lay that motion on the table.
The iIio~foll tO l~y all the ttlhle wg~
~greed to,
The PRESIDING OFFICE*R,. The
Chair will now rute on ~he point Of
ordeF. The aI~e~d*~, eat of the Senator
from Rhode I~iand intteduces a n,ew
sHb!~ et Y~1~t I eF not c'drre!
s 137s8
' CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- SENATE October
~2, 1985
leader, we wUl try to accoffL~odate
that. l can a~z~ur e hLm tonight we have
the ~Atatlon of sever'a[ other func-
tior~ and V, qll l]ot Likely press for fur-
ther roIlcall votes this evening and I
will get back to the dlsgLng~alshed
Democratic leader and see ~i we
c,%nn o~ a~C0l'lil~ 0d at e hiI~a.
~,~r.. BYRD. I thank the distin-
guished majority whip.
~. MITCHELL Mr. President, v#ll
the Senator yleld?
M2. DOMENICL I am ple~ed to
yield.
~v. MITGIaJ~.LL. Did I unde~tand
the assistant leader just to ~tate that
there would not be a vote? It is my in-
tention to proceed Wi~h my amend-
k~en$ ~ We ¢ilsc~sed ~IId t,o h~ve
vote on it,
Mr. DOME~qCI. I did not under-
staxXd ~he dl~tlngumhed majority whip
to say there would be no further votes
tlds evening.
IZ%'. SII~S ON. D~d I not s~y that?
Mr. DOhLENICL It is our intention
to try to dispose of the Senator's
amendment tonight: I cannot say
whether tha~ w]U require one vote or
~wo, or whatever it vAll be, but that is
our Intentlom
~¢Lr, M~TCIJ2~LI~ I thank the Sena-
tor. I wanted to make sure.
Mr. DOMENICI. While there ~Je
Senators l~resen~ on the floor, might I
J~t make thi~ armouncement2 We now
know ~f three amendments tlmt Sena-
tors l~ave told us they have. We are
going to try to rotate back and forth
between ~he two sides a~ we have in
the ~g,
It Senato.~ have amendmen~ that
they are aware of--there are al£o seri-
ot'~ germaneness issues on a ~ill liRe
t 'b2s~I ~uld be plowed ~o ~tart
making a llst and do my best to accom-
modate Senators, but at this moment
only know of three. L[ Senators could
start get,Ins ~hem here we might be
abl~ ~;0 ~o~odate them even Rs to
time.
Wi~ti ~ImL I am prepared to yield
the floor if the ~enator from Maine is
prepared to offer hL~ amendment.
1M2. ~41ITC~'~T,T, I than~ the Sena-
tor,
~MILN~M~ NO. 8~0
ll~u~u~e: To delay medicar~ coverage of
current St&to an~i local employees, an6 to
fIl~Tea~e the cig~2e~ t~x by 4 ~IIL~ for 3
yea~s.l
Senator from Memo. Senztor ~I~CH-
• ELL. h~s all ~mendmen~ Lnvoh'in~ c~g2..
retie taxes and ~m.other subjec~ all in
one ~aendmenL It will be our inten-
tion ~o take that up at.this point.
I Understand the Senazor will be
willing to take los3 than a full hour. I2.
d:at correct?
Mr. MtTCH77,L The Senator is eoc-
_ r~t.
Mr. D OIVfENI CI. We l~rObahly WOU/d
be W~llll!g to eolxie to a t i2Ile agreement
on that.
The distinguished majority Ieader
Lndicated that after the vote on that
amenchl~ent, whatever th~ vote. we
Would not have any further votes ~his
evening.
~o it x%'ouid be our intention to pro-
ceed ~ith the Mitchell ~ale~dmei%~ &t
chls time.
Mr. BYI~D. ~Ir, Presklent. v.'i]l the
distinguL~hed ~en~tor who is chairman
of the comma/U, ee yield to me for an.
other question?
s',ir. DOMENICI. Indeed I 5'ie!d.
Mr. BYRIg. :V£r. PresidenL Lg the dis-
tingalished msmager of the resolutiola
in a position to tell the Senate at thk~
~iiT.e when w~ ~ll beg4J1 our study on
the matter tomorrow?
Mr. DOMENICL I ~an sorry, I say to
the distingUiShed minority leader.
Someone was hsndling me e. note
about the pending amendment and I
did not hear the e~tire question.
Would he mind repea~.g it. please?
Mr. BYI~D. Ye~. I shnDly asked
when the Set%ate would be expected to
re~ume consideration of the reconcl/i~-
t~Ol] rll~ Rsur e t orft o r/-ow,
Mr. DOI~ENICI. I have not ssked
the d~tingul~lled malority leader. Per-
haps the majority whip knows. I think
we have an intervening appropriation
bill in the morning. But I am unin-
formed beyond that.
Mr. SIIMPSON. Mr. President. en
behsM 0£ the leader.¸ ~th whom I
have no~ conversed [ii recellt mo meilt~.
I v¢oU/d ~a~ l~ is the inrmnt ~o go for-
wartl 3.~ ~n early hour ~tld to proceed
this week at 8 area. or 8:30 ~m. w~th
our Senate opening and continue to
pr~e~$ this me~stl2e ail~t ~21other ,%ID-
propi~tlon i~!ea~tlre.
I caD~ot b~ ~t~ore ~peci/'~c other thllJ1
to ~ay that there will be rellcall vote&
likeIy in the morning hours ~d con-
tinual opening of ~he Senate at 8 atom
or 8;30 am. in as1 elfort. ~0 process th~
busine&s at hand. Sdd-. ~CHFLL M.r. President, I
.~r. BX'~D. I~. President, I Would send an amen4maent to the desk and
hope that the Sen~.te would no~ return ask for ira immed~at e eo m~iderz~Io~x
The I~RESIDING OFFICER. The
tanend~n en~ ~ be stated.
The ~istant legislative elerR reRd
as followS:.
The Senator from Maine ~tr. Mr~zl
SIt,ON pr~posea an tmaend/nen~ nu~m~l~d
840.
~k unaniraou~ cor~ent, that, r eadLng of
the araendment be di~permed wltiL
The PI~E~IDINCr OFFICER. With*
out objection, i~ is so ordered,
The anaen6ment ~ as follows:
to the reconefllation measure so e~rly
tomorrow, may I suggest to the dlstin-
g~ished majority wlalp, The a~end-
~uICe i~ rlO$ ~00 gO~d SO e~x]y 8/Id yet
the time wmfld run whether or not the
art endaiace is good-
I would hope that we would not
resume consideration of the reconcilia-
tion measure before ii s-re. ff ~he dis-
tingn~mhed mg~]ori~y whi~ lknd the dis-
fine--dished majotigy leader wou!d
kindly agree,
Mr. SLMPSON. Mr. President, I say
to the distin~ished Democratic
Begir~nkng on page 421. litae 8, stroke Out
through ~age 422. hne 21. and in~gr t in lieu
thereo{ ~he [ollowing:
al~e~dsn~rlt$ rA~xle b~ ~tlb~tfon (~x) sh¢.]l
apply to s~qce ~erf¢)~ed b~. six llldivIdu~
on or alley his ~p~l~Able ~ffe~tlve date
determined under paxagr~ll h (3).
(A} IN ~--The ~gt~ndment~ 122~fle
~y subsection (b) are efI~iv~ With re$1~t
t9 ~m. ald~ {dLLul or~ and a~ter his a~Dl~cable
graph (3). ~nd thl! mmen¢[ments mad~ by
paragraph (2) of ~hat su~¢¢tion ~l~pLv to
ser%.ice perfoi'T~o:l by ~1~ iI~dividtlsl 012 or
after his appHcabIe effective date.
l~r Dllr~$es of eSt~b!L~hh2g en%itler~en~ ~0
hospital incur ance bone flL~ under par~ A of
ti~!e ~--~qII of the Social ~eeurit y .a2ct pur~a-
ant to the mmen~ent~ mad~ by subsection
(b) or the glr~vi~ioim of ~t21o~tiofl (d), On
the b~i~ of medicare quaJafied ~t~te ~nd
ioea~ @Iaplo:*T~er~t, r~o indawldu~A may be con-
sidered t~ be trader ~ d~bllit7 for a~y
perfod before bA~ ~ppiie able effective date.
(3) AI'I'LICA~nI~ ~F~gS"Xa~ ~A~--An Indl-
~ndua]'s aplJlicabIe effective d~te is~
(A) Cotober 1, I98~, in the ~ of an L~di-
~iclu~l Who L~ not an employee of z ~tale or
politie~l ~ubdivi~ion (or ha.strumentallty
which is Wh01B' Owned thereby) on Septem.
bet 30. 1986: anti
(B) October ~, 1987, in the ca~e of an indi-
vidl2 ~] who L~ SUCh a~a eL2. ployee on Septerla-
~er 20. 19B~i.
(1} IN G~WmL~L- FOr purp~$e~ of zectiot~
226. 2262~ 0rod 1811 of the ~o¢i~ Security
ACL in the c~e of an~ individual who--
(AI perforn~ ~'ice dtLr lng tb~ C~ob~r in
wP~ch h;~ ~l~[i~ble effeetivs da~e occ~ o
which co~titute~ naedleare qual~ied ~tate
and iocal g0vernl~ntal ~mp]oyment (~ de-
flzled ha se~tioEt 210tp)(1) of sl~eh Ac~); al~d
(B) ~erforraed se~wlee price t~ his applies-
hle effective da~e, whirl3 ~/otdd ~P~II[IZa
12~edleal-~ ttua][ffed ~tfft~e slid logal goverT~.
Inent-~l employment if performed ~!t~r bL~
~Dll~ble eHe¢~il'e date. *
~uch [nd2vid u al'~ Stat~ and local gover~men-
t2A empl~ymenz perffonmed ~for¢ h~ aDp~l
cable ef fe~:tiv~ date shall l~e e~lx~idel'~d to I~e
"e~nplo~ent" (~ defined lot pu~t~es o~*
tltle 12 of such Act), but only for th~ pt~.
pose of Drovidfng the hadi~dual (or another
p~i~oil) ~with eaxtitlem~sl~ Io hO~Dit~l ha~L~-
a~ce beneli~ reader p~.r~ A of title XVXII of
Z4¢h ALL
On page 372, ~tnke out Iin~ S through 10
told mserg in lieu thereof the following:
Is) R~'~ OF TaX*~ub~eetion (b) of sec.
tJon 57111 of the Internal ReYenue Code of
1954 ( reL~tAng to rate Of t~.x ~ cigazett ~) ill
am~nded--
(1) b~, ~t41klng out ,,$8 ~er tl~tmand" in
p~R (i) ~nd il~erting in lieu thereof
"$1G per thousarld ($8 per thotmand sifter
October 14, I988)"; Snd
(2) by s~qleA~g ot~ ,,$~.80 per thousand"
in ~ph (2) ~d inset ring in IleU ~her~-
tlf *'~21.00 De]" ?,hoU&gffid t$1~.80 ~el- thou.
sand after October 14, ~988)'*.
(b) FLOOR ~TO~m~.--
(~) I~$~2ION O~ TA:a.~n Cig~r~t~
manufaeture~ m or ~mpori~ into the
Ui~ted States which mee x£mo~ed before No-
vember 15. 1985. and held on such date ~or
~e by a~ly per~o~t. ~her~ shall be napped
weighing not roor~ ~h04a 3 pot~lar~ I~er thoU.
mind* $2 per t hotmano2.

Oetober :~2, ~.9S$ , CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--SENATE S 13~9
{B) LA~ c~'t~¢'~'~.--O~ ¢:gsrett~s, [0¢~ e~Ipl.~ses but ,~,OL~I~, delay Love]"- recen~ ~'e~IFs v:i]]
~Ul~i next y~,I- !11~o ~.
~* eighi~ r~ore lh~u 3 ~oun~ per thou~*nd,
$4 Z0 ~e¢ t~o~:~nd; except th~L LI mor~
~h~ 6!~ incil~ m len.ozh, lhey sh~ be ~m~.-
able ~*, ~e ~e ~tts~bed *cot cig~2~tes
~ =-i~hinZ n~t n~ore thi~ 3 ponds ~r thou-
sa~d, eot~llin~ ~ ."% ~.~he~, qr f~'~ion
thereof, of the [ensth of each ~ one m~-
retie,
(2) L/ABI'.ZZ~£ FOR T~ ~ M~/~0 D OF pAy-
any ~ax imposed by D~/a~ph I~.) ~!~!le~
shall be l!ab]e for such ~x,
p0F.ed by p~g~D~ el} shall be tr~ted as
n~l Re%elzue COde of 1954 ~/~d ~ be d~/e
~d ~ayable oF* :3~enaber 2, 19~5. ~ the
~amo ~a~nner ~ ~he [~ Jmpo$~'d under ~uc~
.<ection m pay~b~ ~Ith ~'~ D¢C~ ~o cl~rett ~
removed on November l~, 19~5.
(3) CIGaF,~w~--For p~o~e$ of ~*~ $~b-
~ectio~, th~ teF~ "¢igar~te" ~huli hav~ the
me~ing ~i~en ~.o s~¢h ~e~ by ~$~tion
Ib] of s~icn 5702 of the Inter~l¸ ~e~,enue
COde ol 19~-~.
hn~&ed ~E p~xag'z~p h ll) sha~l ~o~ a~Dly
cig~st~ ~,~ r~t~ ~toc~ held on November
I~. 1989, a~ Lhe p~ace where if:tended to
sold a~ ret~l.
IC) E~ZVZ D~
ci~rc~e~ =emoved ~f~r October ~4. 1985.
"(2) CONFOR~II~G ~ME=;DM~T,~C~iOn
ICl OI sect/on 253 o[ lhe T~-~ ~ui~* ~ud
Fi~ca: ~..,~ on~ibiL'~" ACL ol I$8~ is a~ended
by ~trt~ing out "~*d before ~ovember 15,
198S-,.
blr. DO~NICI. Mr. President.
mlg!1~ I a~k ~he dLstLng'aisi~.cd Senator
from Maine, is he prei~ed to shorten
She I hoar ~ha~ IS a/lowed for hLni? %re
are preps.red to shorten our i houz in
opposition withou~ wais'ing ~ermane-
II¢S$,
Mr. NIITCH~7,T, I ~ prepped ~o
do ~h~L
Mr. DO~IENICL ~i~. President, i
~k unanimoUS cc~en~ tb.a~ there be l
hour equally divided be~.ween Ihe d~-
tin~ish~d Senator from ~Iaine and
~he ~eIl~.~or from ~NISW }/~exieo i~ ODDO-
sition Ihereto and I do L!la~ w~;zhout
w~Iving {he germa.nene.~ defenses
tha~ might be applisabIe to ~he penal-
The ~ESIqD11~O OI~FIrCE:~. I~r.
PPzss~a). Without objection, i~ i~ SO
ordered.
~Ir. DO~ICL _~r PresidenL I
v ~ d_ he time in o!~p 0simian to ~he dis-
tingtlished chairman of the ~-~ance
Con~ni~ee ~-here jurlsdisdon of this
m~.tter lies.
The pRESIDrNG OF!~IC~]~. The
Senator from M ~L~ e.
~. MITCIZfELL. ~Ir. President, this
araendrnenz would delay for 1 year the
implementation of mandatory Medi-
e~.re coverage for S~te an~ local gev-
Under the bill ~ reported by the Fi-
nance Comm*ittee. ~l Sta£es and !oc~.l
~overnment emp]oyees ~'fil ~e manda*
ori]y covered under the Medicare Pro-
g~-am ~s of Sep~embe r 30, 1986.
My ~n~endme~ '~'o~Id leave th~
date untouched a~ re new State and
a~e for 1 year u~n~Ji Sep[embcr 30,
1987,'Ior current State gove.'~rnent
and l~ai government empioyees. This
delay wou]d ~ive each ol the ~ta~es
a~d ~lle m~'~iclpaliises throughout the
¢OU~.'~ al3 additional year to ra~e the
i~vel!ues n~ces~'y to f~12/Ic~ the e~-
ployel~ ~orti0~ Of the ~,Iedic~re ia.x.
I ~m d~eplF ¢o~¢er~ed ~bou~ ~he
ne~a~ive impact this Drovfsi~n will
h~.ve On ~t~*te gove]l]~aent$ and or*
Ioc~] govevf~.ents aczoss the ~'~.tion.
.~-s to ~t~te ~overi~ent eml~loyees,
the most severe effec~ wLll be fe_~t in
seven States which hmve Independent
Sta~e reti~emen~ system~ and, ~here-
~or~, ~l~.vo oi3e or ~ t~lt~ ~ & V~ry lew o~
their ~y~l~*loye~$ Cover~ ~3~der the
S~c!al ~ecur~ty Proem but ~ to mu-
niciDa]iti~--and ~enatoz~ should be
aware of this--this "~ill h~.ve an ad-
%'a~e effect in ever'.," State in the
lYnion, ~very ~ingle State.
Let me deal fiz~ ~-nd briefly with
St~.te gover~nent employc~. T71ere
Colorado, Louisi~a, iv~aL~e. ~Ia~ao
chus¢~, Nevada, and Ohio-which
hav~ indeDenden~ S~ate ~tirement
few o{ their erf~l~]{)yees ~@ ~over~d
under Social ~ecurity, The co~ ~o Dro-
~q'd~ng l~gdic~re coverage to ~t~te em-
p]oFees will be an ~ddeci burden on
~o~e ~.~s ~,t a time w~e.'3 ~hey ~nd
o[her .State ffo~e..~.~.~ents ~e attemp~-
inff ~o deal w~h cutbacks in Federal
f undin~ in a variety of i~re gi~z~s.
In my o~1 ~tzto of Maine, a l~.~al
Sta~e ~th ~ p~pula~ion of ~nIy I mil-
lion DeeDle. mandatory Medicare cov-
e~ge for Sta~e gov~en~ employees
will add, Lr~ State gcwernmemt ex-
penses. $~ million a Eear. The State
will be forced ~o reduce cmt{c~ on~o-
il3g DrogT~rm$ or enatl~ h]~heF t~¢e~
And ~ha~ ~ll be true in each of ~he
seven ~tates that I h~ve mentioned.
Ohio, for ex~ple, one of the other
Slates, will be forced ~o r~e $45 mil-
lioD a year to ~over ~he ~e~Jc~,l'e em-
ployer portion of the tax on State emo
pIoyea%
But while the pro~on ~J]I affect
State ~over~ment and state emp]oy-
ee$ in only' seven St~.tes, the D~ovision
~U have ~ ~dverse effect on mu~ici-
p~it[es in every single ~tat e. The cGs~
of this for 1 Fear is $2.2 billion. ~nd so
Wl~a~ we are saying ~o the municipali-
ties of this country k~ ~ha~ we, the
Con~t~, a~e eompellin~ them to raise
their local t~-xes by $2.2 bfl~fon a year
a~d ~e are ~0mpe ]2g them to do i~
irmmed!ately at the end of ~bis fiscal
~is burden, which is to pay for the
employer'~ sh~re of the ~cdi~re ~x.
~ill fall upon mumcipaiitte~ in ~hi~
country a~ the ~r~e time ~h~t ~hey
face the loss of $4.S billlon in ~ener~t
r~iv~g. L~C~.I gov~rn~nt~ ~.czx)~s
~h]S countrF have been hit hard over
the l~t 5 ye~l~ ~ • result of those
Federal bud~e~ ~u~s which we all know
neees~arF. Bu~ £hzt ~au~t of
tidal wave and make £he job of S~a£e
rand local ~. o,,,ert-~ ents extremely, dlffJ-
~Ult. if not im~ible.
In essence, we at ~he Feder~/ le~'el
• re tranaferrh~g th~ m0~t diiflcult
f~c~l DO~CF d~cisions to tl%.o.~e a~ ~he
l~ca/~ev el. We ~re cut t/~g bac1= a varl-
e~y Of pr0gTg~ns, ~e are elln~i'~.~i~
revoP.ue sl%@.r~%g, ~A1d thel~, a~ the
inere~.~e hl th~ cost. Of loCa/ govern-
me~nL~ to the tu~,e of $~.~ billion a
yes/'.
The n~ ef~e¢~ on ]oc~l govetTl-
ments--I ILrai£ thi~ now to local gov-
e~.ents--~h~ ~ ~d~'erse e~fect in I
year is $6,~ bfi/!on. Tha~ ~ ~he ~oun~
of revenue ;hat 1oo8/ g~v~rI~nen[s will
IQse t~oug~ ~h~ tsrmin~,tlorl of reve-
nue sh~ring, $4.S billion, p}us the new
added co~s, ~mposed on them in the
forra ~f the employer's portion1 of the
l~ed~care tax, $2,2 billion.¸
Th.i~ is occuring a~ ~ time when the
adr~inis~r~ti0n is pro1~o$inff to repeal
the local ~ro~erty tax deduction and
while the_ l~ederal C, oven-d*nent re-
par~/3"zed over dec~ion~ as to
whether {)r P~o~ ~o r~ise reventle. I~
this bill p~es as re~¢r~ed by the Fi-
n~Tic~ Co~ee, al]E10Gt every t~ty
S.nd ~0WD. tn A~.'neric~ ~J/ be forced to
inorea.~e its proDe~y tax ~o r~ ~he
~dditional revenues zequis~d by the
bill
~s a m~tt el" oft~x equity. I belieee it
un/~ir t~ malldate z~ increase in the
nL~es, the prol~rl,y t.%x. ~ @. m@.te_er o~[
po]/oF, it ~ incon~LstenL to.say the
least, for Federal o~ficials ~o en==age Ln
th~ rhetoric we hear daily in this COn-
~re$~, abou~ no~ r~isi~ F~dersl {axes
while we, ~ ~he ~az~e tL~ne, take an
action whl~h compels ms.nF muniei~
p ~/ities in ~emca to raise their ~axes.
Ineonsistant ~ the klnde~ way to de-
~c~be ~h~ ~cz~on,
M~; ~nendment will do one thtnz
and one ~mpl~ thing o~i.v. It ~nll
del~F for i year the nm~dator~ CO-
ver~e of c~n-ent Stare and Iota/ gov-
give Ssates and th(]se mll~c~aii~ies
that i yesr to prepare fcr and ~o ira*
plemenL t/~e tax i~cre~zes t~at, ~dl be
rlec.es~amy ~t the lees/ ~e%'el to mee~
thu~ added b 'u2den. It is Lncredible t,hat
$2.2 bfl/~on a year on rnumc~pallti~s in
Amemc~. a~ ex~ct/y the same tL'ne that
we e~l~A//1~.~e golio~[ rev~ue Shsrln~
which reduces their revenues by S4.S
billion we ~.ve them no ~ime ~o plan
for i]~, no tilile to ~eG~odat a ~or this
added burden. And ~e 8(re them no
time ~o ir, cresse £1~e taxes ~ha~ will be
ii ~£~ary to h~e~ this burden,
The I year delay in ~V£ed[eare cover*
~@'e for eurfeflt ~t~te and local gover~1-
me.lt ~mpl0ye~ will result, as I n0~_cd
~r]I~1., [11 s. l~J~ Of ~ro~ected ~eve~'l~le
of ~2.2 bilIi()n, spread over 3 Fears as
the budget re¢oncdia~,ion ~i]l contem
plstes.
5 200137

~'as ~ 8 cerlts for the 32-year period
from 1951 to 1983, For 32'ye~r~. th~
t~.x w~ not i~cre~ed~ It ~-~ h!ere~ed
in the Tax E~ui~y and Fin~.r~¢ial P.e,
s~on31bili~" A¢~ of 1982. I¢ took effect
in I~8~ to go from 8 cents to 16 cents,
Tha~ tm~ w~ scheduled to¸ ex~ire--
tha~ L% to return to the 8-cen~ le~'el~
~n October ~, I~85, D~ in recent le~s.
la~ion was extended on ~ iDteriL'1
basis until November 15. The provmio~l
in S. 1730, a~ approved by [h~ Finance
Co~ic!~, w-o~d Fepea~ t~e sl~l~e~
date thereby establishing the t~,¢ at
the 16-ee~t I~%.ei On a perr~anerlt basis,
a~d ~ repea~ now, Wo~]d DyO%'jde ~'0r
4-JeIlt i~cre~e if* ~he Federal e:~cL~>~
{~.x on ctgare~,!es fOP a ~-ye;ly period,
fronl November 15+ 19~5, to Nove.'nbcr
15, 19S8. I~- obJ ectlve and purpose £s to
raise suffici~nt revenues to offset the
lOSs that ~.'o111d necur from the l-year
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I hnow We are ~ll conceded ~bou~ b~tep the cigarette tax inere~L~e, to
than if ~he doe~ not work at all. Now
the Federal budget defle!t, and ~o I not filibuster.
offer ~ par~ ~[ ~ht~ a:nendment a This i8 a diSferen~ a~ue The ssue
~eeotld l~roDosa£ which wou!d place ix% in%'olve~ whether or not the Stale em-
additionM ~-ccn~ t~.x on cl~ettes, ployees should pay taxes into the
thereby rais~g the clgmrette tax to 20 Medicare ~y~tem and that their em-
cenI~ a ~ac~. T~a~ ~'fl/ generate ap. pJoyei'--~e Smte o~" loe~ govern-
proximately $2.2 billion over the 3- ment~-should ~ay taxes inlo the Med-
year period al%d offse~ ~he reve.'It!eQ leave ~ystert~
lOS~ ~ a. res&ll~ Of the l-ye~x delay iv& And I emphasize Pay taxes int(~ it
mandatory Medicare coverage. Th@ rathe%" th2,n Ilshlg the word "l~Iedt-
tax on cigarettes in ra'~- ame,'ldmen% ls care" because what we have discovered
not ~ ~ermaaent rex. It is intended to ~s that most State and municipal era*
be temporary Ior the 3-year period ployees a~e covered bF i%Iedicare. They
oP2y so tha~ it will achieve the obj6~, are norma/ly the residuat beneflc]acy
tire of offsetting the $2.2 billion cost of ~omeone else in ~rivs.te ~mptoy-
of the l%'e~r ~eiaY in m~ndatory l~ed~ men~, and by virtue of ttla~, ~esidua/
~car? eo%'era~, ber~e~lsi9.I ~tei*est they are covered by
~V~ have already had extortive i%~edl~re. ExPiable: SailS' works for
debate oi% ~he DF0pOS~I to klcree~e tile the city O[ ~a~Igor i~. ~;er hitsbar~d.
cig~-I'etle ~ax 8 cents SO I Will be very Mike, works for Interaa~ion~J Pa;~er.
brief. The Senate should k~low tha~ He p~y~ Social See~rityl:axes, ~ntcrna-
the Federal excise tax on ~igarett~ tional Paper ~.'¢~ ~or ~oeial Security
Medicare taxes are ever ]0aid on S~lly,
ever. Mike becomes s@. sally becomes
65, nnd she is covered although the
t~xes W@Fe IleI'@~ ~2Ri~ ~0~" her.
Conh'a~t that situation slightIy.
MiMe %'orks for In~ern~H(~nal Paper in
• ~laLn@, ,Sally instead of working
for
~gangor, the ei~y O~ ~a.'~r. ~e~.
u-~rks
for L.L. Bean--24 hours a day. ~5
day~ ~ year. ~Ight? She works for L.L.
~eRn. NOW. w0rkh~g for L.L. B~an. she
L~ covered by MedJc~e and she pays
t~uxes. I-let ~Dloyer DRys taxes. B%It
she ge~ no greater benefits thRn she
gets by working for the city of Bangor
and having no taxes pald ~t all. She
~e~ exactly the ~me benetil~ wheth-
er abe work~ for L_L. Beam or the city
of Bangor. SO the question flrst be-
comes one of f~.[rne&% Sho~ ~;~ose
who are ~oing to benefit frpm the
Medicare ~yst~m p~.y something?
de~a~" iH r~lar~datory Med~cOA'~ ~Dverag~ ~'e i~d~ o[le exception 9~ ~. ]~a~ter
for current State ~nd l~.l govern, of ~ocial policy years ago. It L~ ~. good
excepti0~. We sald i~ OI%e Spouse
works
meIl~ erRploye~s.
I brge I~lemberS of the -~enate tO in the rn~rketpl~.ce fo~ mo~ey and
the
consider the umpact that this mand~, other spouse does not work m the
tory provision v.iI1 h~.l'e oD~ $tate ~u~ marketplace for n~oney, w@rks at~
espee!s/~y loc~l gover/u-nenL~ in your hom~ the entire tlm@. zleve~
Ireeeives
Sta~e~. I repeat, every sLngle SLate will any Wages--~lot fron~ the city of
be adversely affected a~ to the munici. Bangor. not from L.L. Beam--that
llon-
~galities in that State and will be inco~ne-eo.rn~ng spout@ is still
eo~ered
forced to fncre~e ttleir '.axes by $~--~ by bfedic~re. Tha~ is ~ matter Of
~ocla/
biLE0n a year to meat. th~ cost, at ex* policy. We thought ~hat was good
aetty the same time that they will be policy. But we did say. for those who
losing the $4~6 bilHon f:om revenue worked Ln the marketplace, even
tttou~l~ they are ~o~n@ ~o ~et the
sa2ne
bit. President, I urge the iMembe~ benefit~ tha~ the spouse who never
of the Sen~.~e to su;~port this a~nend- worl~ in the ms.rketDlaee gets. they
meat. are going to pay something into ~ledi-
The PRESIDING OFFICE2~. %%9~0 care. Thi~ is because we real~ze~ [u)ly
yleld~ time? ~ha~. if yo~ we:re goin~ ~o ex%end bfedi-
Mr, PAcK%rOOD. Mr.. President. care benefi~ to sp0t~se~ who don%
the arguments against thiS ~mend- earn wages, y~u were going to h~ve to
~e3%! 0by~oDs]~ are Dot those t}~.at, ~it S0~e Wflg~-esr~J~'spouseS'
~2~olley
%~,,er~ dsed D.~Di~S~ the ~rte~ler~ o[+ i/fro ~e syster~ tO ~t greg.~r
ex~eD$.
fered by the Senator f~om Rhode That is ~ soci~l triP.for policy.
Senator from 3~aine.
Isled. There an ag~"eement'had been Le~ me review this. Mike works, his
~,~r. :~qTC~ELL. I ~ield 5 minates to
ins.de between I.he Affrieult~/re Com~ wi£e ~loes not- work in the
marketpl~e the Sen~.tor from nHnois.
mi~tee or the Finance Committee, or a~ all, ~nd she is cov~cd. She is
coy- :~L~. 81MON. Mr. President, and mY
~.t least ~. m~,jonty of the membe~ of ered even though she never pays any
colle~g'tles, I ~rn ple~s.e(~ to rise in sup-
both. to s~.ue the (Dover1~x/!e~at money taxes, iViike wor}{s. ~a[ly ~orks for
L.L. por~ o~ the arn~lldr~.e~ Of the aerator
i/I ~e ~OD~CO prograr~ ill ex~h~llg~ BeBll. L.L. ~e~n. D~.:¢S t~x~s, ever~
from ~/~alne. ~.~[t/¢h of ~.-ha~ the disCus-
for Sen~tora. who other'~e would fill though Sally has no more benefRs
g,/lshed chairman of the Finance Corn- "
i~ add~S0~* We ciirr~r~tly say, OS a
raazter of sncia2 policy. ~aHy. you and
L.I~ BeRn are goLng to ~y t~xes into
the fund unless you work for the city
of Bangor or ~or the S~te of ~L~ine.
T~D yr)I~ are ~a~ ~oi~g ~o pay an~:
t ~-~ es L'Ito the f D/%d. That is ~Tong 0~ a
matter of social p01icy. I~ we ~re going
to s~y ~hat everyone who is emDtoyed
for money pay8 ~omething in~ t/le
Niedieare fund. even thOUgh they will •
get no ~reater benefits than if they
ne%'er worked to pay anything Lnto the
~und. ~hen everyone who works for
wRges ought to De7 S0m~t hinff ulto %he
fund. That's the first questi0n.
Se~ol%d ClU es~ior~-- ~ m~tter of tlr~ing.
The B~dge~ Cornnlit,t ~e Would h~.ve Ln-
e]t~de~i Ril et%r~ez1~ ~.-id .'low employees
under the Medicare System on JanU-
ary 1. ~986~nexG JanUary. 2!% months
fron% nOW. Th~ F~[na~ce Corn~litteo
thought that was too ~.pld. And ~he
Senator from I~laLne amd Others
ar~Qed'4{ery cogent!y ii~ the co--it tee
th~ it ~s.~ too rapid. SO ~e eha~ged
that da~e to October I. 19BB. a 9-
mont*h slip from what the ~ud.et
Committee had.
I thi1~K we h~2;e a fnlr compromise.
This r@concilit.tion bLll is going to be
pa~ed, and sent to the President I
wo~dd think in the nQx~ 2 week.% 3
weeks, h0Defully. That ~ves SLales
3rid Io~a[ ~overlIiTiel%~s ~ttrtple tir~e ~o
pick UD a Day,eat that we r0q1~ire Of
every Other ern]:)loyee a~d every o~her
e ~'~]DIo y ~r.
S0. ~DoJ"t from the nonwage-ea~ng
spouse WhO get~ ~ledieate benefits ~s a
m~.tter of s0elal po]icy even ~hough he
or site ~ys nothing fn~o the fund. we
say e~'ecyone else ~ho~Id ~y. ar.d Ch~t
includes m~m!ci~a[ employee~, c01untry
employees. State employees. &nd L.L.
Be~ elnl~lo yee~.
8o. ~ hope cery raueh t~at the
amendment of my good friend from
M~ine ~H be defeated. I think on
policy re~zoDs ~he el'a~loyees h~ve
fi~a]y been ~dded ~O the ~e~c~re
system. Second. I WOUld h~.te to JeoP-
ardize this Whole recon~iHat[on bill by
adding a prov~ion ~hst Would 10so rev-
enues •nd by adding ye~ a ~'a Jn an addi-
tion to ~h~ oig~A'e~te ~S2. ~0 pay for the
lost reve[P~es. We ~ hKve a ~O~g~
enough ~irne getiing this pa~ed and
no~ ha%~hng I~ vetoed with tl~e 16-cent
eig~arette t~. You add that. and I
think We bring the Whole reconcilia-
tion crashing do rcr~.
I llrge the defeat of this sxnendment.
The PRESIDI~O OI~ICEI~. Who
yietds %ime?
Mr. MITCI~ELL ad~e~secl the
Chain
The PRESlDI~O QFFIC~. Tile
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:~¢ as ~h~.r prme!p~l p~blic revenue vo;e for this all the time, and yet gram is basically funded by
~etive
sQuree, Ot1!er,yise. they ~re largely de-
pendent ell funds frown the Sta~e and
FederM gove~ment.
The dmtinguished Senator from
2,1~saehusetts jl~ spoke of how mu-
l~ciD~litie~ ~e dependeI~ upon prop-
erty taxe~ for their priricipal public
r evenlle sotwce.
BecRtt~e this ~/ledicare propos~ im-
paet~ znunicip~lJties ~n almost every
State, I urge mF coUeague~ to take a
moment ~md tPdnk about how they ~re
going to explain their vote on thls
a~r.en~ent to thef~ local policemen,
schooite~her~ ~d flreftgllterz. FOr
e:;~mple, most of us in th~ body a~ree
that OUr Nation's $chool~e~.ohel~ are
~Inderp~.icL ~nd we have said we wish
we could pay our chilclren's teachers
~ore. Eo~ever, if we do riot modify
the budget le~i~laLlon -now before u%
we will he taking" out an additional
1AS.percen~ bite ou~ of'the Daych~k~
of abou~ one~thLrd of these teache~
next fall.
the~e kinds of decisions are eon~Jnua/-
ly m~de [r~ the contex~ of th~ ~%/dget
reconciliaLiOn legislation.
Mr. President, I commend the distin-
guished Senator from .'~Iaine. lYIr.
i~crffTl, for offerin~ the pendLn~
~o SUl~por t it.. • .
The 2RESIDING OFFICER. Who
yields time?
. Mx. P&CLC%VOOD. Mr. Pre~£dent, I
}Sold 3 mJnu~es Lo the Senator Zrom
Kentucky.
l%f~'. FORD, l%fr. President, I s3~pao
thize ~th the distinguished Senator
frora Maine. the Senator from ~Imsza-
chu~etis, and the Sena~r from Ghio
that we c~zn h~ve problems. My ~.te
has problems, too.
I r~e ~ opp~sitlon to the ~m.end-
merit by my dis~in~ishetl cel!e~e
from Maine, Senator ~EdI'C~EL~ Let
me ~y f~om the 0nse~. that I Sl/pporz
what he is trying Lo do, I just do not
suppor~ the way he attempts to ~ay
8inc~ most State governments el- for it,
ready ~ar~icipata in Social Se~LU/tF, - I do not support. ~he provis[or~s of
the proposed l%fedJcare tax ~ only the reconcfllatioP, bill, as reported
really impact State em~loyee~ and from the Finance Commi~tee) which
~ate retlremer*t progrzr~is hl seven impos~ ~ new tax o11 ~tate Bnd local
States, my home State ~f Ohio being
one of those States. I have al~ys
~rglled tl~at those ~over~eIiL%
whether State or loe~, which took the
Initiative to $~ uD re~iremen~ be~lefit
Sy3tenls ~ good ~ or better than
Social Security should not be penal-
ized because they had the foresight
~nd leadership to establish these sys-
~er/ts.
When the Social ~ecuri'~y Act wa.~
paUSed in 19~5, ~ate and local workers
were excluded [r~m partieipa~Z in
Social Security because there were
e0n~titutional concerns about Federal
taxation of Lh~se governments. In
1951, they were a2dowed to Join Socml
~ccurit y on a veL~ary basis, bu~ only
if they did not benefit from any SLate
or local gover1~T~en~ re~ire~gnt pro.
Wcam. and if they were not police and
iireflghtew& It was only eventual/y
that we opened Social Security'8 doors
to almos~ any State and loca/ employ-
ee group ~ho wanted to Joln the Fed-
er~.l 8ysten~
Mr, President. I ~'n not happy With
the proposed Niedicar~ tax. I am no~
even p~ieularly Dle~ed With the ~r~
posed amendment. Quite sfmply, if it
is ~uceessfully adopted by the Senate,
it only works to me/co a bad situation a
little better and a bad budget plan a
little fairer.
In It~ original form, thls year'~ Fed-
eral deficit reduction pl~n included a
proposal ta mandaU~ Soeia/ ~ecurity
coverage of S~ate and ](~I employees
te~.che~, at the l-pe~en~ cor~tribution
rate, but retired members ai~o pay a
nor~i~a~ prer~ium for rh~ m~dical cov+
e.'~ge.
There ate c.Jxrently 44,000 a~tive
te~c~e~ supporting po~%~'etiremerkt
medi:~l coverage for 22,000 retired
teac[~erz a~d spo~es. It would be pu-
nitive, at boa1;, to add ~ adchtiop~.l
1.45 percent Medlcaze ~x on these
Dublie employees. For a Kentucky
teacher earning $20,000 a yesr, ~n.d
that l~ a high salary fcr a Ee.ntueky
teacher, the additional cost for future
.~f ed'care coverage would be $29o.
At a ~/rae wher~ We in Congre~ are
stri,,~ng ~0 en¢ou2~ge our young ~e~ple
to enter ~he teachl~g pi*o[ession+ aIl~
~ro%~de incentives for ~hose who are
c,.nreh~Iy teachin~ ~o remain £n the
field, we should not be adding ~ new
t=x to Sta~e ~nd local emploFees. It Is
unfair to single ou~ this group of
Work e]~ ~.~ a/ri~ P~rt S Of pI'~ dlloirlg r~t-~
hUeS for d elicit reduction.
ThL~ new tax represents a f'o2%da-
mentM shift in philosophy for our
Oovernment~ This new tax is n=thln.
short of zn attem=~ to shiI~ the
~overnments a dthat i I wha burden of defici~ reduction from ~he
© -- ~ ~eX~t y t f
it is Mr Prealdent and new Feder~J Federal Oovernmen~ ~o ~he StLe ~nd
tax on a ~' v local goven'zrn~n~$. This pro~[o~
The Finance Committee reeommenda- ex~ec ed to produce S~.7 b l.mn un
new
r~ve~ues over ~he ~ex~ 3 :.' e Rrs.
~alf o~
tha~ .%,'T~OIL~I~ WI/I COrSe fro~1~
~[?e e~-
ployees, and the other half from~tate
~-~d local go%'er'Ar~lenr.~ %~2"e are taxJEtg
our States. cities, and counties ~o ba/-
a.nee the Federal budget. It is a bad
pree ecrent, and one I do .n~ zuppor~.
'l~%e~e IS a &q'~ve l~is~e~ce~sion
about the flsesl Portion of our State~
and cities and their ability to fund
their portion of thiS new Medic~e ~ax.
Our $t~&e ~r~ local governnlents are
h~ no be£ter position to finance the
Federal debt them are we,
A~ Congress continues to cut vital
Feder~1 ~.~sist~nee to these govern-
ments, in p~rtieular, our recen~ mo~e
£~ e]imlnate the General L%evenue-
~AU~n ~ Program, ~ ~ell ~ decreased
fl/rlds for other prl3KTa//18, w~ foI~e ollr
State ~nd local government~ to pick up
more ~ld more of the burden of Dro-
viding for the health, safety, and seeu-
tion~ ex~end the hospital insurance
tax for Medicare to current and new!y
hired ~tate and local worke~-~. This is
~0~ ~ voluntary e]cctlo~% for .%ledlcare
Covep~ge--it i~ a mandate. ~nd ~h~.
m~a~e mes~u~ ~. new ~sd{ on ~t~te
In Kentucky, we have four b~ic
groups of S~&te ~n,d local employees
Who are not currently co'~ered by ~led-
ic~re. The largest of these groups is
the Kentucky schoolteachers, r~Drs-
senting approximately 44,000 emploF-
ees. T~e cost to the Co~mnonwe~dth of
Eentuck7 for Medica~e coverage for
thL~ group alone IS estLm~ted at $12.5
m~/ll~n. That is a hefty ~ax for my
~ta~e, and on~ Wllish We ar~ nol; in
positior* to fund.
"f"nls ~ax is pertiCul~rly onerous as i~
falL~ on the Eentueky schoolteacher,
The ~entucky Teachers Ret£rement
System is a~tuardy sound, Eentucky
teachers pay for postretlrement medi- rity of o~ citizens. There aze no sur-
ca/insurance. To impose this addition- Dins do]/~'~ in ~he tre~.~urles of these
~d tax on them i~ slrnply Lu~fair ~nd - gover~n~ent~ to pay for their share of
~etessary. • the ~r..datory iV~edict.re ¢0v~rag~.
Since 1939 the ~entueky Teacher'~ Th~ move will reqmze new tax. h'atla-
Retirement System has provlded Een- tires, and ~hat will take time.
Lucky teachers wit/~ a sound, funded, The Sea.ate Finance Committee re-
retirement syste~ As my colleagues cogized this need by delaying the pro-
may remember, public employees were visions of this new tax for i year.
]But
prohibited from participating in ~oci~l that, L~ not enough t/me for these
gnv-
~eurity Under the ori~ina/ provisions ernn%ent~ to prepm~ fgr th~ new
burden. The amendment by the Sena-
tor from Marne, Son.tar h~n.c~:~u, at-
tempta to addre~a this problem by f'Jm-
thor delaylng the provision refluL, ing
rnand~.tory ~edic~'e coverage for cur-
ren~ employ~s, by i ye~y. I support
the intent of wllat my dt~tin~hed
colleague ~ doing. I suppor~ grsing o~r
Sta~es and eommurdties additional
52200138£
not alrexdy under the sT~stem. I m~ of the act. Kentucky teachel~ Day fnto
pleaaed that, thu~ proposal h~.~ been the retirement system at a ra~e of 9,5
scaled b~ek to or~ly m~d~t~ Med~c~re percent. ~h£Ch is rn~t~hed by the
coverage. ]z[owever. I WOUld like tO - St~.~e. Of that contlJhution, approx,.
r~Iru~Id InY collea~es £ha~ tnany of us mately I percent goes ~0 a postretire-
in ~his boilF h~ve ar~ed th~ Social merit ~.edlca/ ins~r~u~ce prog1-'~/n.
The
Security and Medicare ~r~t {~J:I~d decL- c'J/Teng COSt of the fund is Sl5
~lion,
sions ~l~Ou~d not he rflade for the put- ~2%d is expected to rise to about $20
poses of I~der~l deficit reductiot~ We million Ltl the next ~ years. 'the
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• tlme to try to mee% ~h.~ ne~. resDonsl other t0DZtCCO StAte Sena*ors
~}ou*d product by mcre~-strlg ti]e ¢igRrett~
bllity. ~ld I WOUld ]ik% to Su~Dort il~.'ll not oppo.~: the redes1 o[ the
tooacco exc~e "~ax. E~I thotlgh I syrnp~nlze
• on hLs amendment, excise t~ .Tar*set. B~/t let me be
c]e~r~ with W[l~t~ the SePJtt°r from ~ai"le
I do not think it gees far enough, t zn~ move to enange me provlslons,
to doing I cannot supvort him, and
W0Uld ]~reler th~.t we rlo$ tax the S~te inere~¢ the ~.x ar~ all. will
re,i/It hl tlr~e RIy colleabqleS ~o defea', tilis
whole lo% o£ people trying to help me
do that. We nibbled away ~.¢ revenue
sharing whi~ ~s d~mag~ng the com-
munities'and the ~tates by the loss of
f~lds. ~/et you want ~o come back to
The PRESIDING OFFICER, ~e
Senator's time ha.~ expired.
Mr FORD. I yield tl~e floor, Mr.
Prcsident~
~NLr. PACt~WOOD. Mr. President• l~t
me emphasize again what We llave ~l-
ready done in comparison with What
Lhe Budget Committee would h~ve
done. It is not just Medicare. The
Budge~ torero:tree's R~sumptIon when
we go~ this bill wa~ tha%, one, we
WO~id Cover 9.q eR1ployees, euITent em-
plo~¢ees and new employee~ with ~ed*
i~.re on J~nuary 1 1986: all new em-
vloyee~ on Social Secu~¢~ on J~uary
31 ~.986, and we would. Change the
method o[ applying the new Soc al Se-
curity t~.~ sehE~tlle to rtew employees
of State and local government~. The
revenue expected to he raised by that
method wa~ $9.1 billion ~ of January
I. 1986.
We ju~z about cu~ that m half.
slightly less than S3 billion. We ~ave
extended the tlme 9 mont/Is, we ha;e
no~ brought in Soei~I ~ecunty, and. I
think it is • fah" O0mprom~e, and one
that OUght to be ~doDted by thia
chamber.
Mr. MS:TCHELL midresaed ~ne
Chair..
The PRESIDLNG OFFICER. Who
~dclds time?
Mx. lVLITCHELL. ~r, Presidenl I
should like ~o respond, d I could. ~o
the pom~ m~de by the Chairm0~, It
h~ become ~ ~t2~d&rd oper~.tIP~g ~ro-
cedUre In Co~Igres.~ Irl ~he ]~t Jew
one place--tobacCo--and take that war years ~o have an Inlt'~ posluon taEen
~o pay [or ~he delay for only ! year. that is tot~ly unreasonable, vir~uau~'
The House Ways ~n.d Me~n~ posl* impossible to n'nplement, stud then. at
tlon. by the ~y. whlell ~ nee ~e~n the la.s~ moment, to move off t~at po*
voted on yet. is that you r~xe on new sttlon to another which then. bY ~rtue
hir~s~n~ everybody, just thoSe thal of Its comparlson ~o the Initial pOSl-
are hired new. I would ll~e to have an tlorL is hailc~ ~ a reasonable compro-
amendment ~o the effect ~ha~ th~ m m~se.
wlu~twedolneonferenee. - ~ere we are. ]n the fall of 1083.
We are goLnE to conference. There¸ There are vlrtually no ~ta~e le~sla-
]Senator DOL% repe~Jed t1%e sunset of are e lot of tbin~s tl~at can be worked
t~ras which are in session. We receive
i the cigarette tax: instituted a new tax OUt. I have a great devil of eonfldenee
a ~roposal that would mandate~man*
~n remake ess tobacco at a rate of 8¸ in th0ze who will negotiate in tb~t
date--tax inere~es in mgxly sr.a~es
~: cents per poand on. chewing tobacco conference¸ oon~nittee on wh~t ¢~n be
a~d in almost everF munleip~dlty in
~ aZld 24 ~ent~ on snuff and included done.
• • the co~itry; ~nd leave them no ~ime
i¸ the pr~visi0ns o£ ~. 1418, legislatinn I say again, a tax is & tax is
a tax. to do so. Then the Finance Comn~ttce
L • deslg~ed to n~e ~he tobacco program Ana the ~enator m pt~ttinff On
a new get~ that. a position clearly not possl-
~ mor~ r0arket oriented. - - tax. ][~ is not germane. ~Ve
have el- ble to hnpleme.Rt, not seriot~ly Lntend-
• - Thi~ was a careftl]l~ negotiated ready had that vo~e. The ChR
r hms a - ed. in rny Jud~enL ever ~o be adopt-
agreement between the major tobacco ready rued. Now al we i~2~%'e
is the ed, but merely ~o stake out an ori~nal
n%%nufact~rers, aud bot~ Burley and delay for 1 year. I think We
oRght to neg0¢lating position so that a seeond-
r Flue-cured growers. For 3 weeks we have It as it is, have a
sense-of-the- ary position would ~eem, in comp~trl-
hammered out our dd£ferem~es, and on ~enate reSOlution t~t we do
oot want son, ~o be re~uso~ahle. That is precisely
rise final day %htq ~roup spent 17 long• to pick these current
employees Up, what We have here.
tedious hou~ workin~ otlt* the f~/!2/ thS.L we want Just new hlres;
then we I Want to eraphRS]ze One further
packag~ Which became S. I,!18. the TO- can get the job done. I
suggest thnz to point; The cigarette tax Lncr~e
would not be permanent ~der the
baCCo Improvemeng Act of 19~5. This my culleagues.
agreement then bec~%r~e ~ar~of the Pi- TobacCo. and the smoking public
amendment I am Disposing. It Would
nanee C0mmi~tee me~ure under rec- who enjoy alegal product,
are contrib- be for 3"years 0nly, sufficient to cover
uth~g their fair share to
deficit reduc- or offset ~he ]os~ of revenue in t~e 1
oi%cltla ~Jo 61,
It was offered in ¢¢rnmittee a.~ a tion. We should not further
penalize year delay 0f ~,[edicare coverage.
thre~part package, and was adopted midd/e- ~ud low-income
Axaeriesms ~'~nally, the Senator" from Oregon.
with the a~'eem~n~ that L and ce~aln who; of their own free will.
enjoy thLs the d~tfn~uished chRirraan of the¸
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S 1~,,94 CONGRzSSIONA*. RECORD--SENATE
October~.. ~980
Committee on Finance, re&de, as MIL PACKWOOD. Mr. President, I er Medlc~ 'xill aDpb'. It~a
question
ahcay,% ,% Very eloq1:eI~t agTnment in want to ~nake sare the ~en~te und~r- of when. And if we are
~oing to impo~e
(errd5 of £he 12oli~y oil w~le~her 0~" nt)~ 8~8~rId$ I%0W orl whK~ ~%e ~r~
golnff [0
.~dedic~re c0ver~ge should ~DDIy uni- vote. The amendment of the ~en&t0r
formly to employees ~hrougnou'~ ~he from .%~alne h~Ls be~n divlded, W-e
are
• country. That decision has been raade, going ~o vote on, fltsL his portion
~0f
Tha~ ha.~ nothing to do wish this :he smendmeIlt which ~el~.ys for I
8mcrldlmen~. This araendl~en~ ~aises year ~he ex~e/~ion ~f ~[~dicar8
eov~r~
one question and one ques~ion only: age to ¢~irrenL employees; is tha~
cot-
That is t~e aate 011 W~iCh I~nd~tory reef? •
~ovet'aKe for" curren~ employees of The P~ESIDIN(~ O~iCE~. The
that burden on all these ro.un!ciDs.i[-,
ties, all of the property taxpayers in
this country, at the very leasz ~e
ough~ to h"~ve ~Zhe courtesy and the de-
cency and the spirit of f~.irnes$ tu
perr~J~ ti~e~ ~o have fl/ne ~o ~'repare
for, plan fob a1%d en~,cI, ~l%e t&x ir~-
cre~se $o they esA1 ~c~u~ly ~f:t the rcv-
eiiL~e wheD. they 8re force~[ to start
8tare and local g0vernraents Will Senator 15 eorrec$. -
p~.ying the hi]/that We are now imDos-
~-pply. New hires wlll remain covered Mr. P~.cKvqooD, A/Id, second, we
ing on them.
Inand~.torilF as of September 30. 1986. will then vote on ~he increcu~ed ci~-
Mr. PAC~.VOOID. ~r, President, if
The only questi01~ ha.~ nothing to do rett~ tax? "
we are going ~o t~,[~, about equities and
~.'i~h DoJicy: J~ ha~ to do with t~.mln~, I The PFL~SIDIN~ O]~9]CF/L The
g0in~ &rottnd ~ncrea~fng people's
would ~ay It ts simply fairness to give Senator ~ correct:.
Laxes, wh,%t is ~auce for the goo~e Is
the mtlnicipalities the ttr~e to prepare ~r, PACKWOL, D, TD.~ Senate .hI~s
~uce for he g~-nder. Let t%s rel'er~e
~or ZI~d t0 ~nact the i%ew t~xes w~ich alt'e~dy ~xo~% t)'; 9;t'i~& I Chlt:(c is 8.
the Co 11 -A'I~dic&~ eo.~t~ s.rB goin~ liD,
~h~s w~il require. , wry prel~onder~nt vote ~ts d:~mcl~n~- Med care axes
are evied upon. at, e
h~ ch~Irms/I h/P~seif "Ni}! recall ~loI% .o vo~e fo~ ~n !i1cre~ ~.
the ClQ~.- ~ . ) •
....
rI1orn£y~t~ ~ ~'~ ~i~ely defln~ble g~'oup
~hS.t ,&*hen I raISsd ..... th~ u,l the Finance retie £~.~ see% ~ the preseI1t it~
cents, o~emDoses,*e ~r~d wedo 11o~ br ri=o
Corm~l ee and sald d, bs ~eonsi~ten% but~ t3na~ m the 8e~ond par~ of this
the Sta~e and rnun clnat em a "ees
for Federal o~fJcm.s like ~ to go arnendmenL Thn~ ~ OUL For the
inco It Chert the ~fedlc&te [~es are
&i~otlndsg.ylngto people "%'4e sge not mornentwe~.regotI%~tovo~eondel~.y,
goii~ lip ell the others who zre &b
raisinz Foul- t~.xes" then to p~x.s8 ~ biU Irlg the ex~ezl.sion o[ Medics1"e
pl).y, r~Kdy payL~ ~,~[e~care ~sx~. A/~O. we
~h~ch requires every ~o~Tt [11 Arner(¢~, merits for l year s~ & cos~ of abou~
8Z.2 con s'C~nd back alld say we did net in-
to i'aise ts.xes, th~ chI~irm~I% ss.id, very billion- I believe my good friend from
crease ~otlr t~ce$. They c~r$ goiilg to
forth."ightly, '(Nobody Is kidd[n~ ~hem- IV[sine w~]~ hndic~te ~h~ i~ roughly
the ~ Up o~e 7.ay or the ofher ~nd ~e
~elves; thi~ is a L%X in~re~se." The cos~. $o We are goh~ to hs, ve ~.
budget ql/es~1on i~, are ~hey ~oh~g to go uD
problem i~ it is ~ LCU% increase Which. loss Of $2.~ billion the first hB.]f of this
mere on those who ?*re currently
~%'e2~ se~ee~nan, m~Y0r, and n]ds;rr~an ~/nendr°ent &nd hope ~"~ Pick if ~'IP
p&ylt~ ~heIT& or C~re ~'e ~0ing to hrfn~-
In Ah~cric~. will b~.%,~ to L'.~Dose be- l&ter* ~[~ybe We W~lh mB.ybe We will
i~to ~lle system ~%eryone who is rLo~
cause we ~.re ruRking them (~o it ~o we
C~A~ ~0 ~rO~I%d ~.~d Say tO oIlr cOt~i£Lt.
~[S, "We ~re nell r 21sII1.~ ~ot~ tRXCS s.t
1he Federal leveL'"
if 're are going to do that. and we
0b% [OtlSly 8.Ee goII%g %o dO thB.t, nil I
~y~n~ Js'gJve then~ ~he tllne to pJan
for iL to consider w-h~ tax increase is
better Lu~der this circ~rnat~ce, t, nd to
~ut i~ int~ effect- T~I~ ~ ~he nn/y
~ue.
Mr. President) I ask for the yem~ ~,~.d
Ii~t ys ~It my [t mend~Jae~t.
The P~IDING OFg'ICE~.. Is
tliere ~ ~ul/tcien~ second? There L~
suf ficien~ second,
The ye~s and n~.ys were ordered.
~,L~ /V&'TCE~LL Mr President,
KSk ~or m division of mF ~ e nc[n~er~t On
p~ge 3 between lines 15 and 16.
The PI~EStD~NG O~CiIi~. & dfvi-
SiO~ L~ req1~ested,
~r. PACKWOOD. ~,tr. President.
how Irtuch ~qrne rema~?
The PR~IDI~G OFFICEI~, The
noL Bu~ I |lODe W~ mre llOt ~oL!lg to
slart down {his proce~ of loss and
hope. loss and hope, loSS ~nd hope be-
cause indeed it is ~. loss of about $2.2
biIi~on if we delay the extension of
~v!ec~ic&ro coverage for ct~rrent ~mDloy-
ees for 1 ~-ear. I wo&LId ~g~/i~ urge that
I~y col]e~.8lles defe~.l; this ~me~l(iineI~t
iu its entirety and-szarG by defe~ting
the flrS~ ~e~en~. of it.
/~r. MI~CH'FT,T,. H~ the ~enator
completed?
Mr. PAC/C~/C OD. Y~s.
~[r. I~L~2 C ~ LL. Mx. Presldenu
The PI~ESIDING OF]~ICT/~. The
Sen&t~r i~om ~laine.
~Ir. M/TCHELL. I merely wanz %o
repea~ ~;o pcdnr~ tha~ I made emmJJer,
and I ask all ~en~.tor~ to c0naider it.
The fir~ Is that munleiDahties in
every 8~ate ~-3/be teqttk'ed to raia~ Its
ri0w pg.yiI%g theIIt.. BUt to SD.y Or% the•
one hand, "Oh, no, we ~.re not going to
r:~ise your ~_Rxes." or, Lf ',%'e DL%t thls in,
,,~VB a~-e goJ~ ~0 r~se yo~r ~s,e~" i~
et%L~ both w~.y~. We either increas~ the
t K,xe$ 0Fz ~hose Cu ~'ell [i~ C0 ~,~r ~d 0r ~. &
try to ~I~}~e ~he bKse bro~der and tn~re
fau" by bringL~g in under e0v~age
those who now p~y no ta~xe~ at all and
get I00 percent of the benefits. I
would ar~e ~h~t the ~quities are more
on Lh~ s~de or br]ngin~ everyone in
~d having ~hem a/l pay t~:es th~n to
rKise %he t~xes ~ore th~i~¸ w~ wot~Id
otherc¢ise r~L~e ~he~ beo~se ~'e do
no~ £ne/ude wi~hi~ the ba~e those W~O
pz.v no L%xe~ at all.
I~Y. MITC~I,T, &dd~essed the
Chzir.
The I°~F~IDI~T~ OI~IICE~. The
~axes if my ~men~hr*en~ is defeated. Senator frora ~Is.[Ine.
And they v.~ll huve tado so with very .~,~. MITCHELL. I merely respond
l~ttle time to plsn for, preps.re for. ~d by se.ying ~he rea.~on St2.~e onmd
local
enact that ~ incr¢'a~e. They ~ill be government employees were no~ ttnder
Senahor from Oregon hzs 17 ~Jnutes, forced to do th~ by sctions we ~re
59 ~eeon~.% The Send.rot f~om Mmne • t~king sO t~t we oan con~kque to go
h~ 2 minutes and 52 ~econds. aroxind 0a~ga ~eL! th~ ~x.erfcan
people,
M'r. PACICWOOD. ~ I ~inder~tand
that the division is requested o~ the
eig:Lrette t~ ]~1.t of the ~.rner*dment
first?
The PR~SIIDrt~Cr OFFIC'E~. Tha~
will b~ voted or** 3eco~i.
l%Ir. PAC~OOO. M~'. President, I
~IggC~L the ~.bs e lice o~ ~ cEn0r~ra.
The P.q~SIDING OI:7~IC~, The
~lerk ?;ill c~ll th~ re
The ~s~f~tant legislatlve clerk pro-
ceede~ ~o call ~he roll,
Mr. PA~OOD. Mr* President, I
B.Sk U~l:%ntrfl0LL~ COI%Se~ th~&t 1.he order
for th~ qu0 i~m call b~ rescii1ded,
The P~F.~SIDING OF~ICEI~. V4ith~
out objection, i~ is SO ordered.
,,%-e ere not ma~,~ yE~.l, taxes," Aizd
evel3" 8e~abor who votes for the corn~
mlttee bill ~xld ags/Dst my ~mendrne~t
/9, m fsct, votL'~g for a t~x increase, m~
the Sen~,~or from Oregor~. ~he c~ha~-
man of ~he eoramittee, for ~hri~h~ly ~c-
knowled~[ed dtlring the l~ln~nee C~m-
mittee deliberation. ~Vhst we ~re
dDJ~g i~ voIi.~" ~o compe} se]ec~:~en
~d mmFo~ Knd aldermen ~o r~l~e
tKX~ &t 5he local leve! ~o we c~.i% go
• ro~d ~L~d k~ep s~.ying, ,~We 8~r~ ~ot.
raising your k~,xes." And as I s~id in
my earlter remsrk~, Lnconsis~ent ~ the
mo81~ generou.~ phra~ t csm ~ to ~-~
strobe that beha~o~, Now. th~s can be
done. This L~ ~o~ a quentin ol ~'besh¸-
So~a3. Security Knd ~ledie~'e is be-
ce, use we, by law. prohibited ~hem
from being %under ~ed/cs.te for many
yeer~. Tha~ i~ ~he re,on ~or it. Now
quh'~s them to come under it. An~ ~he
e~u~tF of that lass been deelde~L Tha~ "
m no~ being debated. The onl.v ques-
tion is. shO%lld we do so in a pr~-~ipi-
tous ~a.n~er so ttlat ~e $~.2 billion
t~.x ~ ~re requiring the~ tow~ to
~he same ~me t/~at they lose the $4.6
b ~ioD. from reve~lue sl~a~ t.h~.~ they
are gol~.g ~0 lose~ neg~.civ~ effect on
the £tna~eia/ con~/~ion of the munEci*
palitie~ of Americ~ of $6.8 bfll~n ~
All troy amend~en~ WflI do will he to
delay ~or I year ~hat 1:~r~io~ of ~he ad-
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