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• CONGRESSIONAL ~COKD October 22, 1985 Pages S 13776-95
ConsoUdaced Ornnibu~ Budget Keconc/li~.don:
Se.nate con,~sued consi/e~io~ Q[ S. i7~0, co pro-
vide fo: ~ecoaci~/~ion pu~uant co ~eccion 2 of ~e
fi:~ concurrent :e~o|udon on the b~dgcc [or fisc~
year 1~86 ($. Con. Re~. 32, N~n~-Ninch Con~:e~s).
taking =orion on amendmen~ proposed d~ere~O, a~
folIows:
• p=g~ 51 ~'22
Ke~ected:.
(1) C./la[ec Amendment NO. 839, ¢o ~.cre~e dnc
clg~en= ~ h~ ~ cent. (A I~olac oC o~de~ wa~ ra~ed
char the ameadme~c wa~ noc g~nna~¢ co the 51[l ~d
h~ v~h~do~ o~ the Congre~ionaI Budget Ac~, ~nd
thus was noc {n orde2, By 66 7ea~ ~md ~0 n~ys (Vo~
No. 240), Se.~e" ~able~ a motion ~o w~ive ~ecdon
305(5) of chc Con~re~slonal Budget Ac~ with ~s~ec~
~o the m-aendment.)
(2) Mitchell Ame.n4menc No. 840, co delay Medi-
and t~ {nc.-e~c the c/E~re~e tax by 4 ce~L~ ~of un~e¢
~ean. (By ~6 ye~ co 2~ rm~ (Vo~ No. 241 . Senate
mbied the amendment.)
1%~-. C~L~=F.~. Mn, Presideu¢. I send
iLs ~raedi~t e c~.nsi~eraSo~ -
The pRES/DINO O.~J~IC~. The
The bg3 clerk re~d as folIews;
""i-he ~e~cal* fr~ml Rhode ~nd. [/~r,
B~.~¢~;~ ~r opo~e~ ~ amer, d~en~ numbered ._.
ttn~LnEn~ous ¢~n=en~ that fU~her re~.-
lug of ~he ~endment be d~gensed
The I~R~T.SDDI~Eit OFFICER. With-
out objection, it is so ordered= • • .
The s~,endm=~r~r~ res~d~ a,~ Iollo W,%
On psge 3"~. st~d¢~ Ou¢ lines ~ thm0uch 10
m~o inscr¢ in hCU thereof the fo~Inw~n~
• ~a) ~ or T~X-~U~eC:t/0n (b> OZ se~
5";0Z.O£ ~,he Inr~ l~ren~e (:Ode oi
.El) b~" st¢lki;l~ uur="$~" b~ ~h (1)
and h~arraa~ h~ l]e%~ ~hereof .,$12"~ ~o.
(l=l~oa ~ .....
U~ted 8tace~ which ~e l~gved be~c~e N~
vember i5. lS~,5, and, held ol~ s~cb. date f~r
the fo]~owiu~ ¢2.x~:
wei~hhl= n0~; ~ote ¢~.n 3 l~O~ per ~]1~-
~d. $~ ~er Illous~nd;
wel~hh~ more than $ D0VD~ per t~10~and.
¢~ 8 ~.. lnci~Ee 1.~ levitt tz. ~be~ sh~J be t~x-
we~&~lu~g no~ more ~ 3 ~ ~ thou.-
.%~u~, ¢~un~=n~ each 2~ LncJ~e~ or fmc~io*%
(2~ LL~ ro~ l~e,~.~A pe~o~ hold hlg
cigarettes on NoVember 15. I985, to wrd¢~
sh~.ll be [i~b[e £0r such t.%x.
(B) ME'f'R0~, 0I" Wg'fT~T~he tax ht=.
ta~ imposed t~nder s~lon 5101 of the I~ter*
r~/ R~venue C~de of I954 amd s~a/l t~e due
•md p~y=ble ~, DeCember 2, 198~, In the I~

~ning give~ to s~ch term by sub~e~on
C~e of 19~_
(4) Exc~io~ ~n ~A~--~r ~
cig~ett ~ ~. feted sto~ held o~ November
lfi. 19S5, ~ the Dkace where in~el~ c~ to be
(~) I~ o~--The ~menl made by
¢ig~i¢~¢$ removed ~/ter November I4.19S$.
(c) of ~o~tio~ 283 o~ ~he T~ E~ui~ and
F~C ~. 1 Re~oD~ibill Ly Act o~ 195I ~ ~e2~ed
bT ~ki~ CUe "!~d hef0v~ N~vember 15,
19S5~,
~I~ CPL~E~ Mr. PTe~tdent. I am
Join~ m this ~nendment by Senazors
Mr~ President. I would be glaff to
enter ~n~o ~ tir~e E~Tee~e~c Wi~h the
floor managet~ of the biB. if ~ey so
lV~r, DO~ENICI. Mr~ President, I
~ly to th@ ~en~or, ~ wotkl ~ l~t her not
a~ ~hia- time. ~Rhough m ver~ 8hor~
order I bet!eve we ~H be able to do
that.
~, C~, If I UnderStand, we
have 2 hours anyw~.y; us ~hat correct?
The pEESIDLNQ O~I2!CE~. There
• re 2 hoz~ on first-devoTee anlend-
duczi%-lty eae~ yes.F. C~g~-ette sr~okiilg
0o5~ t~xpmye~ $-!.~ bil~ioi~ a year
through Med/ca~e and MediCaid P~O-
gr'ar~,
Dr. Gerald Osier, ~n econo~ns~ wi~h
~Iiey An~L~, Inc. of Noston. tes~--
fled before the Kouse Ways and
Mear~ Cora~tt ee In June of ~hcs ye~
thaC reimbu~ement to socmty for sll
of ~e~ COSTS Wo~ld r~q~ir~ an irl.
crease in the cigarette t~x to $3 per
package, and reimb~semen~ for madi-
el~l C~e Cfl~t.~ a!oDP~ would re~t~I'~ al~
Incre~e m the t~-x to 30 eent~ a ~ac~-
age--~n additional 30 cent,
M-v. P.~esiden~. I am only a~k~ng for S
cenm additional, making ~. tot~ 0£ 2~
Cel~t~
Medic~i evidence of the incidence of
tobacco-rela¢ed diseases among tmera
of cigarettea demo~trate~ the corr ela*
tiO~ b~tweell SI~0k//Ig ~d iD_C@e~ed
heal~h c~re eost~. An increased Feder-
al excise tax on cigarettes Ja a ta~ im-
posed O1% tOD~CCO U~el~ lot ~ r~:$ul~-
ing e.xc~ health ~-.xe ¢o~ts they
Lr~o~ on ~r health C~r~ s>g~em~[n
O~he~ w0rci$, h~.v~ those wh(~ ~re ~S~
ing the excess cos~ be~" D~rt O[ the
burden--p~r~ of the bUrden, i%In Presi*
de~t; nowhe~'e ne~2 th& ~n~[et~
burdem •
ment~. All o£ ua clearly have ~'~
in~ez~st in
1~Ir, CH_~WEE, Evenly div/de~L
Nit. president, the amendment I Dr0motingbetterhea~th~ntheg~nera/
h~.ve S • poptfiaLiono the- lonK.~e~
ben e~iL~ for
en~ to the desk ~Rd cosponsored
by Senator~ BL~C~_~. , ~.~T~ZEZ~, federally £anded hea~th c~re
Dr08T
STA~RD ~!~, ~Fld ~IL~DL.v~ ~nd W 3xe clea~'. ~X~ the~ tlrAes O~ f~e~l ~.i2E*
are o en'to~them the~e • ~ li ~ eterity, we m~c ~os~ly examine the
tion on the numbe that heal~h c~re eost~ imposed o~ t~D~v-
r c~ COSDODSOr
L~
this-- r~vtde3 zhat the CZuTent exeis er3 b~ ~oba~co Imers. The
detlclt f~ -
P . . • -
tL% on ci e~tes of ~ • cre~2g ~ he~t,t~l c3/2 $]~endLrlg ~-
cents eigs2ette tax per package. COR~rlb%tt~ ~/lO e
~s. they
This amendment doe~ n~ earmzik
Inl~oseonoUrhea/theareprograms.
the revalue ThL~ ~endment w~U de- ~O~ On/y W0l~/d ~n
increased excise
def h tax on t~L~ prodnc~ be fair
and hel~
cr~e the e t y an additlonBJ. $~ . . .
]~ fl]/0~ over the ne~t S ,e~:~ reduce the deflclt, h~t It~ Wi]/ aL~o help
The thrus~ of *~hi$~amenclmen~ fs d~courage~mo~In~
~wofold: FL~t, We need the additional In the Tax Equity and ~isca~ Re-
revenue. ~Vhen we ar~ running" m dell- spor~Ibility AC~ [TEI~P~A], the legk~l~-
tit th~t has been estimated between tion we ~a.~ed, Congre~ doubled the
$17~ billion ~nd 8200 billion fol" 1988, I
think we better t~J~e every pe~ny we
can find.
The second r~r~onale /~r the ~n~.end-
ment, ~LI-. President. is ~-~ increased
tIon. i~ ,~l~leu ray] y amor~__~ the younger
DeoDle. an01 ~rcvenr~B them fror~ being
cf~re~te addicts for the balance Of
their lives.
~ach of l~s, Mr. Pres~denC, whether a
t~.oker- or hoe, ~Ry~ ~or ~he health
C~-e i1eed.~ 0~[ smo~e~+ either tllrOU~l~
i~e~h i~l~t~r~nc~ pr~miuiR~ or-
thro~.g~ our ~axes funr~e}ed in£o go~
ernmeng Dr0gr~L~L~ Which c~r~ for
~hc~e ail~ng a~ & result of having"
~/~lok~ ~n excessive number o~ ei~-
reties.
According to the Off~ce of Teehnolo-
~$~ss~fle~. ciggzette ~mo~ng ~c-
coun~ for $22 billion i~. medie~l c~re
costs ~nd $-~S billi~n u~ 10st economic
prodllc~Ivlty each year~$22 billion in
medical costs, $~3 bllIIon in lost pro-
excise ~x on clearest es from 8 c~nt~ %0
16 cents for s S-year period ending O~
Cober i, 1985. In "C~rette T~Xatlon:
Doing Gou4. by D~ing Well2' ~uth~r
Kenneth %~arner sts.~ed ~ha*. the do~.
bling Of the exc~se tax c~.u~ed one ~nd
~uar~er million adult Arner~:an~ to
stop smokLng and one-half nd]lion
Ce enagers t,~ sCOQ or not's%8/~ sn1(~ l~i~g.
Teenage smoklnE decreased hy l~ per-
cent. AdulC smoldmg d~cr~ed by 4
perc~ilt,
B~ helping to discourage smoking,
a~ ~ncl~s~ed exci~e t~.~ will hel~, im-
prove the overall he21th of the coun-
try. CIg~u'e~t~ smoking is the N~. I pre-
ventable C~i/se Of death ~lld d~sability
i~ thin coun~ry--~h~ No. i cause. That
not dL~u~ed. Over $50+000 Ameri4
~ d[e of smokin~-r~!~ed d~se~es
annually. HL~e rn~iUon peo~e suffer
frora e~./Dmio bror~¢hi~i~ a11d efT*phi'se-
mi. due t~ smoking~ Anyone Who h~-~
e';eF seen R s~/ffe~'er Of e~'1~h~sc~..a
knoT, s wel~ "~lle r3~vages Of ~hat disease.
O
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. Oetb~r o,~., 1~83 " CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- SENATE
S 13"/77
in~[ L~ 8. deCi~i0tX each o~ us Should tl~. A.~ociatLon
(y.w.c.A.t o~ tt~e Lr.S..~_-- atricu~n~--a aro~e-~ionM or~lmizatlon of q~-
.,~,,e a*'ld that CO.~l~re~s ~|~oLild IlOt be ~t~ or~ni~at*on o1 2.5
million meml~e~ ~nd teo~athl¢ I~h~cian~ pro~idiI~g caFe to Chic,
~2xlel~m'lt~ working to
promote e~lt~. $u$- dren.
artemis,!lag to i~fluenee these deck- ~tee. aetme. ~reeeom and dimity 10~- a~l
~. ~¢ciati0n o~ ffunior Leaguer--an
~i0ns throLl~h an excL~e t~x. ~owevei'. t~eople, but particul~.rt¥ for wonien anti
interlx~t~o~l ~'~men'$ %olU~.teer or~a*M~2.-
which have ~ &.rea'; impact on al] of so-
cle1~y--~mokun~" fa]Js int~ this category
as I pointed out by the deva~.nd~ i~
s~:~erd.
l~ ci"~les a.n ~.~cre~s~d denlan~, oi%
OUr he~P.h care system, much Of
whleh is subsidized by ~he Fed.era/
(3ov~]~Dx~1~/it. ~]/ of i/s. whetheP w~
smoke Or no~. p~-y for the health ~e
needs of smokers--either throu&'h in-
s%il'z~t~e ]91-~mi~J~ or our t~xes.
~arly this m0n~h I held s heatin~ o[I
the issue of an in,retake in ~he ~-
re~%e excise t~x in ~he S~bcomn'd~e
on Taxation and D~b~ Mm~.~ement. ~t
Was ~/e~ ~t~n ~h~e het~ng~ %h~.~
£here is ~ gr~t dedi of supI~ort for an
ili~re~.~e in th~ excL~e tax ~rom • wide
variety Of hea~tll Org[uniz~£i0ns.
I have s. |~s~ ~f ~4 he~I~.h 0r==aniz.~
t[ons th~ are interested in the ifl-
el'ease in finis t~x. It, ran#'es from d'~e
Amerioan Cancer Society. Amer~1
Heart Association. Arn.eHcs.n Lung AS-
so~i~.tion. American Colle~-e o~ Obs~-
~ri~isns and ~aeco]o~-is~. American
Cdil~Ze o~' Ph~ic~sm~--~1 ~[ ~h~ rne~.t
irn2niner*t he~I£h or~.~diz"~ioDs in OU~
.~atlon.
~.~r. President, ! a~k unzJ~mous con-
se~t to h~ve p~ntcd in th~ R~O~]) ~he
li~t ~ or~'aniz~.tlor~ suppor~in~ ~.n in-
~l'~'~se In the Fe~er3l cig~2e£~e exc~e
There being no ob]ecdoru the ~st
was ordere~ t~ be printed in the
T.~x
- i, American ~ancer ~ocle~'--the world's
I~rg~st vOlunta~ ~leS/~h s.ge~y, devoted Io
re~2~ ed~tion, and se1~a'c~ to tl~e
2, American Hear~ Ass~i~.tion--one of *.be
la~g~s% ~ol%L~ta/y heal~h ~neies h~ ~e
U.~. and ~he only such a~enc~' ~ha~ devot e~
a/l of iLs re~%~fce~ to t~e goal Of l'eOu~itd~
~rernature de~.th ~id dls~t)iI]~y title tO cSr-
~i~ o ~ ~ular dlS e~.~e and st.~oke.
3. A~le~L-.an Llmg- ~ia~io~--~he n~.
¢omnlitt ed to ~]]e ~event ion ~nd ~ont~o[ o~
hi~g d t~e~se.
a..l asnoeL~ioi% o! Over ~0.0~0 ~rnmunJty
he~iLh leade~ r.nd health ~ro£e~ions]~
wor k~n~ for Lhe p~]ic healt I~
~. American As~el~.~Io~ o~ Re~ired i=~".
s~--the [~.;~e~ oi~/z~Jorl re~i~erltlZlg
inlet the needs Of ~he o~d~r ~o~u]a~J¢)[1.
~. Association of St~e and Territorial
[{e:clt.~10[ficiAj~-tl~e ~role~sional o~r~L~.-
titan re~resenti~ lhe chief ~e~d~h o[flciIis
of ~ery s~ale ~d ter1"~tory in ~he ~nJt~d
7. Chfldren~ Defense Fund--~ national
~ ~ blic ~h~r~t ~ tha~ provides ~ ~tron~ a~Id ~
fe~i~e ~oice fo~ ehil~ren ~nd ~dolezcent~.
p~'tieuiArl~. ~h~S~- frt*rr* .9~o~" ~nd minority
f ~r~ulies. in Dubli~ policy forums.
9. N~iional CoUncil on the Aglmg, Lne.--o.
r~ dona] o r g~.atat ion reprt~en~Jng provider~
~f ~..~ce~ to ~h~ eldea-[~ which ~et~'ea tat ~t
on~ older !~ Olmll~.~i~n.
[0. Natior~tl ~.g~lo~ ~£ ~Iementary
School :F./~ncip~.--~ profe~aiona~ ¢~malt~-
at~d middle seheol ~rittci[~.k~ in the United
~.~e~ and over~e~ ~tad l~e]ie.nn~ tha~ ~.he
pro~ ~d ~'ell.b~in ~ of the ehfld m~x~ be
at the foref~nl of all eleme~ttu'y and
raiddle seh0ol ~la..a~ mid operations.
1]. Amenca~ A.~oclation o~ Dent~l
~hO~L~rt 0rga/nzati01~ ~reseY/ting ~!1
sixty dent~l ~cilooL~ it~ ~he Uiu~e~ ~a.te~.
their fa~ul~l~ a~d ~tttdent~. mad the~
d~lat.al h~erle ~d hO$ pit 81-ha~d f e~klene~.
~rOgT~mS.
12. A~m~ea~ IM~etes Assoeiationqa na-
tional voluntary h~al~h ort'~i~0n whO~e
t~o.~old unts~ioll L~ ~o Sflppor t the search for
preve.'~ii0r~ Or cta~e .¢o~ d/~*be~e~ anld to jm.
prove ~he weIl-~emt~ Of ~eo~le who h~ve d~-
170.000 ~embers* 5500 profez.~ionoa mere.
be~'~, 58 ~f~I~la~e~. ~nd 'Sil0 ctlapte~
l~..~eric~n Medtc~] Student. A~oci~o
~Jon~'l Ln~ependen~ or~m/lizat]on of more
I4. Ad%.~n~t i:le~]~h N~twor~--pecple
tion i~nd dtree~ a~is~ance, in ~00 cent~..~
col~nec~d wi~h Ad~,~ntist chutc~e~ and
$chooIs ~[To~.$ ~he c ooz~t ~..
.15. Amerlca~ A~0~iatlon Of ~refen'ed
~l&t~on o~ ~oi~Det~ive ~lteIna~iv~ he~dlh
~r~ deiiver~ ~5"~t em~.
~u~e~--a~ ~9 12riva~l~ ~ Dubli~ly funded
~cer c~n~I~ a~o~.~ ~he courtly, pro~n=~
r esea~ch, care. and ~e~tlhag.
1~. Amenca~ Academ ~" of Aller g~ alad I~1.
mun010~--~ prof~i0naa o~g~.mzatlon ded[.
eaLed to ~he adv~a~¢~e~ Of knowledge ~d
practice Of a1ier g..~ an~i Ln~mv~olo g.y ~nd Dro-
~.i~LnZ ~t.t~r e~.e t~ ~*.~%ima ol ~
es~e~.
18. ~P~ and Allergy FoLmdati01x Of
~eri~...-a nat~onwi¢le ne~wor~ of over 10t}
Cha~er~ and ~appot'~ groups ~d ter~ of
thoO~and~ o/ conce..~ed uidl~Jdu~L~ banded
to~e~het. ~rtLh ~ COI~O~ r~i~on ~o e~Itclj.
care a.~b.m~ trod aiierl~c dtse~.
~Jon~4.00~ ~h'~iCI~A~A~ eottC~aed ~'t t~h d/~es.
20. CenIer for ~cie~'e in the Pu~l!o ~nt er-
est --~t ~o f~LL~ter adv0C~y membe~hip Ol'g~.
~Lz&t~on tha~ s ee ~.L~ to I~uprove n~*~l¢~n~ ~]i-
eie~ w~h re~ard to he~dth ~nd nut z'lt ion.
i~r~resentJng ~proxmaateiy 149.000 k~divid-
ual membem, promot~g ~he soltxtion 0[
e01~ t~azait y g*l~lel~$ t b2ougi% ~OIU~ r~a Cy t.l~-
Izan in~ol~.entet~. And ~I~ilXLt~g mernb~ to
he effective voluntary i~artlcipants in ~h~ir
corr t m LL~iti~'~.
~'I. ?q~*iional Perha~tal ~*.~oelatlon--an
ln~erdL~i~LLqatF ¢~rgau'l~L~l~ of pro~e~i~n
a~ provid~ health e~.~e to L.~au~ts ~d
pr ~gTd~2%~ w0m01~.
~8. A~aemc~a~ Academ~ Of OIoI~r~ic 2A.
1 el.~a~ Org~iort of l~ b ysI¢la/~ ~eci~*
E~ip~ in the t~.~me.qt o~ the ears. tao~e.
Lh.'ott~ and ~elJ~d ~Ct~FeS o~ ~he he~d
and ne~L wl~h 1.200 rn em0eim.
~. Amer/¢a~ ~oc[ely of ~Iineal Oneolo-
gy~-LS00 ctlni~al oneoiogL~t$ s~ecia]lz~ l~x
~he t ~L.~¢~en~ o~ ~macer.
] ~.~Mes~ ~fes~[o~ ~oeJ~ t~oix represent~n~
re~istered htt~m~ ha the country. ~j~h
18fi.000 member~.
~l. ~erJ¢~ Society of In~ernal ~edi*
cL.ae--repre~en~n~ 18.000 ~h~'~a~ ~ho
cerned ~th t~e aoeJoa~ot~m~c* of medioai
care delivery.
~Z. a'~a~i~nal A&~oehttI0~ 0~ Children'~
~ospit 8.1s and Related Inst tl~iti0~s
(N&Cl~I)--rel~re~en~ 8:~ ahild~.n'~ hc~oi-
taJa na~ [c~d~. I~ go&[ i.x t~ ~er ~.e aa aa ~d-
voca~e ~oi" L~*. ~l.o %.ed c.h~[d h~lth ~d the de-
li~,~ r~ of eomDrehe~ive q~Mat ~" h~lLh serv*
Ices for ~1 ~h~dren. .
~3..~ma~m~ar* C~lle~ Of ~he~ ph.vMel~
(ACC~)--L~ ~ pI~f e~tonal medical s!~e~iali~::
~ocie~ l'e~re~tllXg l~aol~e ¢2xa~. 11.000 ptty-
~i*t2~.s. ~ienti/~r~ a&d edu~o~ s~eeia]izin~
L.~ ptllm~n~r y ~.~d ¢~.r ~Lio~ a.~Lda~" dase~ea.
34. ~elJca/~ Couaacil 0It ~ci~r~¢e ~rl~
I~e~<h (ACS~-i~ ~ r~lona/ cortstm~er
education ~oci~t~on dh-ec~ed and ~d%'t~ed
b~ • panel o~ ~ien~L~ L* f~om ~. v~riet ~" o~ dL~-
ei~lln~- AC~ L~ ~m~ait~e4t I~ provld~n~;
eon~umer~ w~tla ~en~ifica~lI~ ~:~.l~.need ~V~I-
~t ~.~iolm of L~s~te~ r e[~t.mg to food. chemicaL%
tl*e envirolame~L ~a~d h~dt ~t.
~. American Academ~' of L~atci~---ml
or~an]z:xrion ~| ~7~000 pedl~nckan~ de~l~al-
~*~ ~.~ '.he h~th. ~.fe ~r ~ .~eLL~ ¢~[ u~
fsalt& chfldrefL azid adolescents in Not~ia.
central mad South A2aerie~
36. The United .NIe~hoal~ ChL~ClX
~grta~en~ of ~um~n WeLters---The ~'ttited
i~e~hoc~t. Church ha~ 9~ ~aLL!lon memt~et'~.
T~e De~atrt~txt of ~LL*n82~ R~O~C~ iz re-
Spol'~ibie f01" the Chttr~'$ I~O~tiOIL~ Ot~
L~ues of ~ub]/~ health ~ad ~o11¢~'.
3~: &merma~ L/eermad k~ticgl NU~m~s'
more ~ht.~ ~.000 ~¢e~med ~r t~.eLlca/ mad v0ea.
tJ0n~ I~ tll~ ~iao pr~de b~0aid e I t t~i~kl~J ha
~tin~s melu~n~ nu~ln~ laome~, hospitals.
~ iL.lics. ~ntmt~t~lt~ health cer*t ~t~.
21. As~oe~aIion of ~hc~$ of ~blio :~8. 2L~aerle~a C01]e~e of
Cmrdi0lo~--A
~e~th--re~tld~ ~he ~ ~.ec'tedi~ed I~.000 member, non I~rofit
~rofe~ionaImed.
gTadttat~ ~hooM of ptlblIe hea]di in the ict.I .~ocie~y and t~.chin~
l/L~ti~utl01% ded~.
Uni~ed~tate~. . c~ed t~o elx~urmt/ o~tAmal
care fa~ Det.~on~
business eo~ition e~ae~i~ CUtTen~ ~ttx the /~otentia~ ~f
~eveloDii~g c#~diov~2~lar
refOIT~. Wl~h 1.~00 ~L~h'l~ slembel~, dlse~L~e. ~d th~oo~ ~du~tio~l ~At~d ~C:O-
2~. A~erie~al _a~o~l~tiort ~or ~ttsDit~.tot~ ~-o~or/lle ~eti~itietL rat. oon~rib*atiIt~ sih~oi/'l.
The~apy--~ 2~000 2memt~e~ I~ofe~onal a~- caaltl~. ~o I~rewntion ~f e~i0~,~cular dis.
xocia~i~n for ~espiratory tl~e~py p~c- e~se.
~4..~19~1¢~1 A~emy of OtsI~r.d~golo~ tlo~8~* or~anL~a~.lon
reiir~e~tha~ ~pproxi-
g.~--Hea~ ~: N~K ~kal~ery. ~i/c.~a ~i'ofe~ /r~stte]y 3000 :eg~tet'~
pr0fe~ior~t*l n~I~e$
~on~l ~o¢~ttion ~on~rned ~lt~ e~c; ~rtd ~liied he~Ath
pt~fes~l~ llXvolved ix~
thr08.r~ ~.~, head ~.2~d 1~eek ~url~ei~'. v;ith ~ lt~odaaities Of care
aftd ~t1~er~. tta¢lud-
appro2~l//~te]2t "/.~(~0 Ifle~lbe~. i~g h~o~ia]~t~,
g]e~itoI~.l ~U~lysi$. Krtd
ZZO013

Octobe ....... ~.?
13778 CONGRESSIONAL ~t~.CORD -- SENATE
~ ?~ : ~-
trar~ntation. GI Datier~¢~ ~itn renM ~ds. The su~:¢y ~.E~ fo~.-7~ that ra0s~ Amer]-
TheSE are jtl~t some of ~Ile hea~:h
40 N~.~ion~A Alliance uf ~nior Ci!i~en~.
I~c.~ n~ on~ n embers p ~rg~nL~ 0n
~hf¢~ focuses i~ ~t~cR~[on on m~Jor [~ues
~f~,~ng older .~car~; it is ~.L~der~e Io
~oP~P~2tive in Dollt icT~ pilil oso ph y, ~z~ II~
nlon~!Is, a m~Jor .~ncel~. As rn~n3, I~ 75~
Of ~h0.se Do,led t;aid lhat ~ley reg~r¢' la~m-
01oymen~ 05 ~t k~g l.oil/Ig ~ue. Sllll l:iore.
80%. exDect, the level of i~fla~ion to inEu-
spoKderlt$ ~aad L~atiogl wotild t)e ~.I i~
41. Terry O0~theJf Lup~ ~'e~e~it It,ll. pre~ent level at the e~d of 198~.
A.n~ While
tuI~--est~b][sh~d Io he1~ ~JllioO~ of 11/13~ 2~. iGo~t for ~* lllgher ye~r.ev.~2
i~. o211y
vic~ in lhe wol'id and ~o encourage. CO- l~%thottgh~that thelevel~ouldcb:op.
~rdirt~e. Rn~ ~.irect fLlttlre pto~o-e~ il~ ~he M~.~y o~ those DoIle~ re~ ~ntl%in~ed
etiol0~y. '~.o$i$. ~d ~re~traeftt of th~ ill- t.h~3; bt~ine~ ¢~:cll~ie~ a~l
l~.dtlis pri~ileKe~l
13¢.¢:~. p~itioyt 112 Ar~er!¢~2 $~iety. MO~
~ht*~
~2. A~etle~n Medi~ &s$c~i~tJo~l--~ v~l. hR[~ ~id ~hftt coE2ptJItel do F*Q~
D~y ~notlgh
UJlt~i'j sm'Jety Of phy~i¢i~r~ ~o~ded ~o Dgo- ~e& whil~ severl o~2t of t~tl ~houg~
th&~
mot~ and [mDtov~ ~he sgience a2~.d &r** of ¢~rp~e nlanRg~ wer~ ovetpRic~ &
~.~ble
~ed:c!ne ~¢i tb~ be~ei~ae:l~ ol pub[~e ~ajority ~vored rak~L~ buSIneSS
t2*xes i~t
heail.h. WiLh ~roxL~.~.te[y 2~0.000 nl~..a- order toc]o~ethe~qdge~g~~
~e~. ~h¢ A~I~*~ v$0ri~ aeli%.ities ~*re direct. The $.J2~'ey showe~ ~z~ much Of Lhe
ed toward achiev!~ e.~ceilence among phF- public wt~ ~¢a.~ed by he 1981-82
r*.ge~ion
~Icl~ ~d a&~urt~z ~e .~merlcan ~uDh¢ of and remRu~s wary abo~ ~e ~u?2ook /0r
~he
the ~Ighes~qual~ty.medlct*icare~ssible. future, lh~11y 80% of those qu~¢io~ed
43. America~ COile~ of Qb~tetrlctaP~ & ported no iraDr~vernen~ in he r
~ta~da2d 0~
9yl~6~o]~gt$~.%p. OI'W~RtlG~ teDi'e~el~~. li~g over the I~a.~ yeats. Moreover.
people's
trig ~e~ 25.~ ~te~:ms~:~ ~a~4 ~]ner~i~.. expectations about how ~hey wli] fare in ~he
~ who Sp~clal~ze m women a health care. ¢¢~m/ng mo~th~ h~e b~-ely Im~rm.ed
since
44. Am~rtcRrt C0~[eg~ Of ph~idl~.~ the deplh 0~ the ~l~r~.~ I]2 m£~m~er 1992.
i~2. C~4~. *N~r. ~esideEtt. I would .Some 50% ~aw better days ~*head for them-
aiso l~e to point out r/tat ~here is a
grea~ de~l O~ SUI~OI~ thr0ttghou~ Out
co~ry ~Or ~.~ increase in the, e~,~e
tax On cigm"e;te$, In February of 19PA,
a poIl found Lh~t 77 percent of reg~-
~ere~ vo~el~ supported art ~ncre~e ~.
~he tax to 32 ce~s a D~CI~ Th~.~ is only
ta ~4 cen~
I ~s:¢ u~-~:nou~ c~!~ment tha~ the
Ti.~e n~g~ine ~r ~icie d esc1-~ bir~g these
results be Dr~$ed in the REcoaD a~
this po~L
ThePe balng no objection, the ~.~icl e
~ ordered to ~% Dl~t~d m %he
%v~lue th~ %Vhii~ ~ol~e fe~l~ ~.md VCall
Slte*~ fret.s ~ut runaway federal deficit&
~lll ~tl-~e~ i~ doep]y co~el~l I~o. 'I~e
efful s~'~l e4 ~he gene~ ~ublic'a fea~
~boqt '~he Ollt]Ook for ~he U.~. ~l~onW.
ThJ~ w~ the m~t fh~g of ~. new poll
conducted for Tlr~e by Y~kelOvlcl~ Skelb,
& White. The st~,,ey Of I.~R ~g~te~
that nearly 90% '~iew the defielt~ ~ a seri-
au~ ~on~c problem* Even mol~. 95%,
~[der ~ngre~ ~,~ be re~nsible for the
~7% bI,~a~ e t~e~dent Re~g~.
W~en re~pOl'~¢RL~ ~e~ ~ed Wh~.~
should be done about ~ne deficits, Ovly a
fraction favor,~ eu'~ting ~1 spen~,u~
Tl~ I~ Jorit y sa~l ~h~ IheF t~ollld prefer to
t[on, t~eF l~iected ~ i~r~ [t~ p~n~tl
Selves when questioned then. compa¢~d with
~2% todd7.
~'£h~ public la ~esz 1¥ ¢on~e~ned ~c,~t ~.1~¢
future of the economy, y~nl~elovtch found
th~ ~2% beli~'e the recovery chat g~t
ur~der way iu~ over ~t y@~tr azo Will ~rove Uo
be ~.~mpoFg, rg. O~l!y 10~, on the O~he~ ~and,
$~xI =hey ex~e£t ~he economic I~npro% er~en~
r~ ~I2~L
~,Ir. CyLa~'EE, hfr. PresidenL I have
talked generally abotF, the healt]l r~k~
involved with cigarette srn0~ng, I
WOUld lik~ t~ take R lnoin.en~ to ~
more specific.
sMo K~NG F~CrS
First. (~ver 350.000 A~lerica~s die
each year of the effcc~ of c:~reLte
smokLR~: Th~ is 1,000 every day,
SeCond, Cigarette smoking co~s o,Ar
society in exc e~s o~ $%1 bll~isn a/muM-
ly m he~.lth care cosf~, IOS~ work time
and los~ productivity.
Third. ~fore ~h~n one out of everj
seven de~ths in th/s ¢otmtry are- ~k-
ing related.
FoUrth. Eighty percen~ of MI long
c~.ncer de~.ths i~ this ~ountry are
c~used by s~lokJ~g.
Fifth. Cigarette sr~okLn g catmes one-
third of all heRF~ 2Asea.se deaths In this
~ ~un~5~ ~Jl~ h~-~ d~ a~c~xtl~t ~ for
nearly ~e~hR!f Of al~ deaths.
Six. laerha~ RLmos~ I0 percert~ of nil
persoil~ tqow al~ve---~ 2~ rilRlJ0n Arller -
ic0ns--may die pre~natttre2y of hear~
rL~ a~ogiat~d v~'i~ cigarette a!!~ek*
!nO. And all of them cost the Fedet~:
Gotern.~. ent P.lOrley. They either cost
th~ Goverrmaen~ money direstly
through prog!'~n~ like ~Iedic,~re and
~edic~[d, or t~rough Lr~reased gram~-
tl.,21s in 13riv~,e h~al~h iil~ll~8~ce ~or
which we pr oyide a tax deduotion.
Why Is it argued that It is wrong to
a~k those individuals who src, oke to
pny a lit~!e more~j~Is~ 8 cents moro
I~er package--f0r t2%e c c~st s ~ey impose
on the res~ of ~ls?
One objective to raising the excise
t~x is ~L~t~ R is regres~ive--~hat is it af-
Iect~ the ~oor, mLnoritles ~-nd the el-
fler~y m~re than o~her &~ouDs. ~e-
se~ch by Dr. Je~fery ~.rTis of ~he
5~ea*saohusetts I:~titut e of Technology'
h2.dlCa~e~, however, that lOW-LneOme
Americans smoka Ies~ than midd!~
income Americans. Profe~or Harr~
~0 finds that older Americans have
much lower smoking rates than ~he
keneral pODUIa$ioD. Pie a/so found tb~.t
Lu c~r~iderir, g the nmml~er of ciga-
rettes smoked per day, the actual
dollar burden of ~ cigarette t~:~ in- "
cre~se is greater for white~ ~han for
~1 a~'~s hn every Lucome category.
These findings a~e confirmed by the
I979 Surgeon General's repo~ on
amokin~ av.d b.c,.It h. That repar~, decu-
mended that s.'r, okin~ rates arnonz
mrle~ are highest among middle
ine0me 1~vels. while smoking rates ~or
women rlse ~ead!ly wlr.h Income. The
poorer the woman, the :e~s l]ke!y she
~s to ~moke.
In ~h0rh the cigarette t~x fails rno~t
heavily on people who ure well able to
afford it.
Lf we look a~ cigarette excise ~axes
~rom ~ ~oiscal pe~'e the kn-
crease we are proposing in ~his amend-
raent is clearly not extreme, lrffla~ion
ha~ resulted in a reducflo~ in cigare~t e
taxes in real terms and as a percentage
of ~he Price of ¢isarettes. The Federal
excme tax was lncremsed only twice
during isle ~$t-wax ~eriod: From
cents per pack in 1950 to 8 centa in
19SI; and from 8 cents tO 16 ~nts i~
).982. This trar~lates to a declLne Lq
th% ~x r~¢e measure4 t.n 19~ d~It~
from 37.S cents in 1946 ~o 8.6 cem~ m
1982, folIowe~ by Rn incre~e to 16
cen~ in 1984, The ~ederal tm~--a~ a
percentage o£ the price per package of
Income ~axes ~.~ ~ me,~Is of Deducing the
shortlY21, ~y far ~he mo~ po~,/}2/ r~venu~
"[~1~ Qt~es~ioned were ~tlrpdslngly ttn~mo
pres.~d by the 4rug) ~n h~ fladon, whicl~ turn*
blect f¢om 12-~% ~a ~fiS0 to 3.8% [as~ ye~.
atl~flflmg 44% og ~he r~12deflks wer~ t~n.
."0w~ ~p. OU grit Ih~ the e~d Of spir~g D]:i~
had ~ffe~d ~hei~l ~ Io~ ~gh~JF rnor~ i~
one-Lh~r~, by COC4g~, ~aJ~l l~e bre~ in tn*
f]~t~ofl h~tci not ~fec~d t~le]~ ~.t R~L Whe~.
3=~ ked to pick re~ for in/q~ ~on's d~iine,
iwo.~hil'ds ci~ofi lhe dro~J u~ oil pr~c~ ~s
onus@, ~ome 59% rn~io~te~ ~l~e r~zess~
And high m~employ~ent, wh~l~- 54% S~,~
dl~ea.~e attribu~:abie to cigarette zmok- cigsrv¢'ce~le~lined ~rom 42.2 percent
i~g. unle s~ smoking habitS ~re , to 10.7 percen~ betw~n 19~'~ and 1982:
changed. It now stands ~t 18,~ percenL about
~even, L~s~en to this st, R~is~ie, Mr, the same r~te as in 1975. !vIind you~
President. ChiIdren of smoking par- cornpaxe tha~ ~:0 wh~.~ l~ was in
1.~7~
ent~ bt~ve an inerea.sed risk of br~nc.hl- 42 percent of ~he cc~s~.
tis arid pneumn~ e~.rLy i~ li/e ~m,d Nc~. 5~r. PTesident, cnother ~.r%~t-
~eem to have a small bt~ m.e~stiFADle ment we will be littering to today is
ddfferenc~" lit ~he ~z'ow~h of !u~ func- Ih~ ~ increase in th~ exei~e ~.x will
tions, sigTm/ the death knell of the tobacco
Eighth. LLsten to ~:hls one. N[atern.al f~rner. No one who ~u~por~ a~. 121-
smoking during pre:!~l~cy ~igm~ic~- cref~e in the ex¢:~e tax "~'a~ts to see
~y increases t~he ~ o~ spor, t~.neous these I~2ners baz~A'upt, lrt fsct a
aho~ion, nii~carrioge, bleeding cRu2ng ma~or reform of the tobaCCo Drogr~n
pre~mcy, ~ill.biri:i2; and ~udden is par~ of the reccncIIL~ti~n
legisl~tt:on
i~fan~ de$~h syn(h-O~l~e, w~ are ¢ 0125i~eflP~g tod~y.
5 Z001367

• Ottober 22, $#85 . " CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-- SENATE $1,3779
BUt. th~ f~t ~ the% Con.~arnption Cent or ~20.O0O teens. AS for those that an increase in tax on
cJgsrettes
.&-ill continue to decrease without t~D~s
slnendment~-a/~hough Drobmbly at
slower r~e. I don')# ~hink the£ we C~
in ~c.od ¢onm~}ence. especi~/y in ~he~e
d~ys oI[ ti~me~o~ d~fi~Tz. ~ote on
th~s is~Ii e b~-ed on R desire to oontinl/e
eI%coura~ing the DrOd'Acti{)i~ of a ~rod-
t~o~ ~haL r~Bi~ in such hzI~e hes/T_h
c~re costs to t~he l~era/Gove.nu-nenL
Mr. PresidenL how much ~irne do I
The PRE~IIDING OFPIC~/£ (~Ir.
~a'n0kerS aged 36 ~nd older, ~30,000 would have d:e e£fec~ of reducin% tile
WotUd q'ait if the excise tax were in- ¸incidence of smoI~in~ in th~ coun!l~,,
creased to 32 Ce*'Its per pack.
in ~.ddition to the health conse-
q~eP,¢~s Of Smoking, • ),he ~oRolni~
co~ts are enormous. The Office of
T~chnoin~<~• ~$E4~I~1%~ e~tin~F.~ ~$ ~h~
disem~e ~nd los~ pDoduc~iviky from
smoking COS~ OUr economy $$~ bIuinn
yes.r. Ths~ ~s $2.17 for each D~Ck of
cigaxet tes sold.
Cigarette t~xe~ h~.ve ~rt int.-resting
&nd ~eop]e who h~t*e r;ot yet started
o ~A%o~c) peso e who ~llght ~ecol~..e
smoke~ in the con-/ng years.
I th~nk ths.t IS a.n imporE~n~ reason
in 8uDI)oi~ Of th~ ~%naendment. [ thi,~.~:
it i~ C|~ri# ~tLsti~ecL It is good ~ublic
DOUCy tO tI:ore~e the £~x. I a=~rc~ With
~he Senator ~ro~ ~ho~e island that
this is an inerea .~e which is re~onab!e.
SY~L'~SL The 8ene2.or confrols 4%' r~ul- h~toi~. ~/Irsl; imposed during the
C.~vil
ute~. War. Zhey were raised ~enod~c~/ly
Mr. CHAg~EE. I~Ir. President. I yield until 1951. Between 1951 ~.nd 1982
clg-
wh~.t~ver ~L.ne the ~en~.t(~r ~rom N~w are~te e-x~e tax~ remsJi~ed ~In.
Mexico desire~, changed. In 19~2. Con&~:e.%s ]pa~ed
~he
Ti~e P}E~LDING O~CEP.. The Tax E~uity and F~mcs/ l~esponsib[lity
Senator from New Mexico L~ recog- Act. whiehisbetterkno~n~TEF~R~%.
hired. • ~A i~ised the cigar et 5e excise ~.~
-~. BI}IC~.C.~2~. Mr. Pre~idenL I from the 1951 8 cent tax ~o I~ cents
wi~ ~e ~usL a few minur.es, if I n~.y. tmtll OCtober 1 o f this year.
C%zrren~
~r. Presi~enz. I ~u% i}leased ~o join law e.x~ends ti~e !6 cent tax until
NO-
with th~ dlsthn~shed Sen~or from v~raber 14. I~ is interesting to note
}~hode Island. Senator C:~L~-~ ii~ of- tha~ if the ci~'~r~tte t~'{ had been
ferkng this smaendmenL I ~elieve ths.~ r~/sed ~o keel) Dace with Lnflation
mnce
th~s is ~n important and r~cessary 1951. we ~ould tod~y h~ve • ~ of 32
me astlr~- c~n~ per pa~}~. This ~Ine~(~mf~i~t
This IS ~ strai~ht-fcr~m'~ ~-aend- would tame fhe tax to m'dy 24 cents.
mont. It ~row~(~e~ for an i~exe~se in No e~rmarkJng of funds is Called for
the cigarette excise ~.x from 18 to 24
cent. wish no e--rmazking of fund~. I~
is ~. ~r~.g2~3.~ic ~l%d r~zon~b[e step
toward ~ddressing ~. ~erio~ ~hre~& ~o
the he~/th o~ thiS Na~iol% ciz0xer~t~
sm0ktn.g. Be/ore I go on to explain
why I be~eve this tax wLll benefit ~s at
both ~he i~(ilviduaI and nmti0na/
leveIs. I ~0u!d like to draw the Sen-
ate's ~.~ten~lo~ to %Vhy ~:e Ileed to ]0o]£
at this mR~ter In the broader conL~xt
Of health promotion.
In the l~ndmmrk puh 'dc~t2on
".'~. ea[t hy P¢Opis.*' the Surgeon Gener-
in this amendmenL I haDpen to be.
iieve in earmarking Iun~ raised by
tax such ss this to address the c~.~ses
• nd effects of cigaret ~e smoking. Earli-
er this year I untroduCed leg~iati0n
which does just th:~t. I hop~ that ia!er
~his ~e~tr we ~ %'~r~f;l[ly ool2~ider
ez.iT~rk~g f~r~ds for ~edic~re as well
• s for henlLh promDtion ~.~d dkqeg.~e
prevention. A~ ~his time. ~hough, Mr.
Pre3ider~t, I ~,m $)le~Sed ~hat a simp]e
il%cresze of the elgaret~e exci~e Lax is
before the ~en~te.
Pu~.aliy, some will argue that ~his is
al outlineci the strong re!~onship be- ~ re,restive tax and inherently unfair.
tween our lifestyle and the new health One may argue that excise tRxes such
problern~ f~cing us aa v. n~on Knd • as this ~re l~deed regressive. IKowever.
listed 15 ~riorl~Ie~ %V~ch mu~t be ad- the qaestion of the fairness of an
dressed: C~:garetbe smmsking IS one of excise L~x on cigarettes can on/y be
sever~/ r~sk f'a~o~ that contnbL~Zes to
the in,easing in~denc~ of carcLfova~
eul~r disease--the NO. I ~ttse of de~.t h
in America. CI~;.rette ~m.oklng ~s the
NO. 1 I) ~'ve~table cause ~f d~th.
A~e~cans are beeen~ng [ncressingly
aware of the hes/th threat posed to
this Na~on b~ cigarette smo~n~. This
ne.v heg.lt~ coD~toltsi~.~ ~ei~ ~h
the ind~vidu~l and the n~.t|or~/ tn~er-
A~ the L~d~Id~al |e~l..~. P~
de~t. cigare~e ~mo~ng win
350.000 Americans this year. Thls
hnrean t~}l from ~rnoldng c~n be pre-
vent ed~ I~eee~.t ly. H ~.m.'SXd UIzivers~t Ts
/ns~ture for ~he ~Ludy of Smoking Be-
hayer and Policy era%eluded tl~mZ an
~xelse tax on cigg~re~s is perhaps the
mos~ ef~e~e available too| to dolor
smo~ag nmd tD red~ic~ Smok/l~g re.~.t-
ed C~S~ to the ~der'~/ Oov~raent. If
we %r~c.r~e ~ ~.~.x. ~he ~i~.~ eX-
D!~L~3. cig~ra~t~ eo~ulnpLica~ ~:ou]d
drop c~ic-a/ly, e~Deci~/l~ ~mong
tax ~e~se woald d~ the
nuazber of te~ge smoke~s b~" 17 pemo
ar~wered accur~.tely ff we look ~t the
effects of eig2~ette smoking on aIl
fl~21el'~C~tD/;, smoke.-3 ~d no~s~22oker3.
Is i~ fair that nonSmoke.'~ ~ay bil/iors
of dollg~rs in taxes each year to hel]~
cover the heRlth c~re co~s incurred by
smokers? I t/~/nk not..~Ir. Fresident.
Cle~ly. i~ is not fan-. ~rnatever unfalr-
ne~ rnny lie in ~. cig'~rer~e excise tax
is. I belie~'e, outweighed many tim~
by r/~e unfair bur~en~ imposed on all
Ameri~ by the high mcid~nc~ of
sm~k-Jng in OUr soeieSy.
This [$ nc~ R !~artisan L~ue. t ~m-
m~nd my colleagues ~n b~th sides of
the ~.[sle wh~ h~.ve worked to &ddre~
thL~ m~.~ter both on the floor and in
com/nit*~ ee. e~DeciaI]y the d~tin-
guished ~enator from l~ew Jersey.
~n~tor Bm~DL~Y. and the distin-
~u]sl~ed ~en~tor from Rhode Island
Seu~tor CF2.~E and I urge all my cot-
lea~e~ to sappor~ thi~ sxn ~ent.
Mr. President, let me 7err briefly
say t.bat I think the ~rim~ry thrust of
thv argtrmen'~ thRt tl%e ~enat~r fr~:n
192~ ~ de Isiand ~ made is c~ec~ tb~
L~ th~ the ewi~e~ce is c~erWhelming
It is not excessive in ligh~ of the PAs-
toric tax rate that h~ been imposed in
th~ country. The 8.mendment shouId
be supposed by t~e Ser~e. I ~ha.n~
the Senator for yie]dh%g.
~/[r. CFL~~E~. Mr. Pr eside~t. 1 thank
the ~eRa~or fror~ ~ew ~k[~XICO fOF
those ~i~e ren~%r~
The P~F~SIDL'~ OIr~qCE~. Who
yields time~
Mr. DON[ENICL Mr. President. I
ylel~ the tinge th~.~ I h~ve in oppo~/-
tion to the dL~tinguisbed cha~rrn~n of
the F~nance Commit~ce~ ~n~.~or pAC'X-
WOOD.
The PRESIDING OFF£CER~ The
~enator has that right.
T~n5 Senator from Ore~om
~tr, PACKWOOD. h~r. Pr e~i~te-*t L let
me explam the situation regar d~n~ the
tobacco tsx and ~he Tobacco Pro~T~u~a
in th~ r coon c'.liation bill.
Admitted!y, putting zhe Tobacco
Program into ~be reconciliation bill is
unt~su~[, b~t iz is no~ unhea2d of f~r ~.
CoR%.,~ittee [0 de~,] wi~h r~gtteI"~ In ~,/~-
other ¢0narnittee's ]ur:sdiction when
~)r~viously C~DDrc~ved by the chafr~ll~n
Rod r~mki~Ig member of the second
conln~ttee. The F~n~nc~ Corn.mi~tee
did it 2 years ~go en ~he Airport Devel-
opmen~ Progr~. The Commerce
Comrr~e, which had j~-risdietion
over spending of the money. ~ked the
Finance Comrmttee, which h~d juris-
diction over the rai~ng of it, to ]pu~
the matter into reconcl]iation,
At that time, the ADA1= Program
h~d uniform s;1Dport "oy ~Im~ every-
0~ [I~ ~he ~enRt~. 'r~er~ w~ no s.er]-
ous objection raised to the procedure
because it had been requested by the
ehR~lTaan ~und rankin~ member of the
Conlltlerce C0~%~T~i~e. The ~?.~ce
Coma~it tee did it aa an accommodation
to ~he commerce C ornmit%ee.
Th~.~ i~ OP.~ p~u~clenL I~ is ~ v~lid
precedent. ~Nh~t ~he F~s~nee Commit-
tee C~Jd then in%,o~Ved nothing more or
le~ th~ul wh~t %he Ccrnmitte~ did by
pu~ting ~l~e Tobacco Progr~n in the Fi-
r~anc~ Cornm[%~ r~ci!i~.ti¢i1 pack°
Rge ~t ~he request of the ch~irnlan
and the r~ruking member of the Agri-
culture Con~aictee. The preceden~ is
exactly ~e ~me.
~/hy did We do it? We knew tha~ if,
we at~cempte~ tO add ~r~y ¢ig~re.'~e t~.x
~0 ~. bl]l DB~sed by Zl%e HCe~Se. We
would face ~ f~ibu~ter and we ~ould
face • veto. We ~lso knew !{l~t the cig.
~rette tax explred ore. the 1st of Octo-
ber. For theae of ~s wha ~n~nted
keep the cigarette tax ~ I~s present
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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- SENATE
October ~2, 1985
the thousands of small family farmers
WhO depend I~pon ~O~aCco for a SIib- .
stand behind the agreement which ha~
been made between ghe Finance Com-
mittee and ~e Agriculture Comml~.
tee, We ~ave s~ruck wha~ we ~hink i~ ~.
fair bar gai~l so that each aChieves par~
of what wo wanted to aChieve. Other-
~e. neither of u~ might have been
able to achieve ~y Dart of Our objec*
rive. 1~ ~ms perfec~ example Of the art
of ~om DroFi2~
Therefor~ I would o~pose She effort
~f my ~od friend fyom Rhode Island
tm incre~ the t~haeco t0~x t~ 24 cer:~
or to an~/¸other fisure tha~ may be
suggested. I believe we have r~ken
good ste~ for the c otmr~, ~ big a S~D
~s we c~lld have taken. I do not ~hink
w~ coold h~ve p~ed ~he 16~ent ciga-
rette ~ax s~Rnding by i~elL I think the
tax woul~ have gone down to 8 cents
s~an~ial portion of their incomes.
_~h'. ~esldent. tobacco in all IL~
f of*ms h~s been. and r~mains, the ~no$~
heavily taxed ~ingl~ cons'urner prod-
uet. If eigaret'~e ta%es are further in*
e~ed. rngny e~gal'e[~e me2111f~.e[~r.
re~te prices. ~dll likely turn to cheap,
sub~idzed, forei~,n-~r~dueed tobacco.
Th~ woU/d hur~ noc only our farmers.
but a/so the U.S. balance of trade. In.
crossed ~o;~ao~o ir~po~ wo~lld meR/i
less U.S. tobacco purchased domesti-
caUy. Thousands of small farmers
coald lose ~heir m&i~ source of income
th2ohgh thlS Ic~a of business, In addi-
tion. our belt.nee of payme1~ts would
suffer.
veloed it standing ~/one In any event.
We were able to add i~ to the reeon-
cilia~io~ inr a~,o%h.~r reason, We coUSd
also see the po~ibili~y of the Gr~ra2~-
l~udm2.n amendment being en~led.
We COUld see t~le need for additional
Rudman amendment wall finMly be
en~te~ i~ at th~ momen~ being d~ter-
t~cd by a conference betvceez~ the
House Rr, d the Senate w'itl~ members
from ~ com~ittees in the i~ouse
and thzee eom~u~tees in ~he Senate.
On balance, considerl~g what ~'e
hopefully will dO on the deb~ c~illng.
the comBromi~ stx~ck between the
Agriculture Comr~/tt.e~,+o and the ~i-
hence Con-m~Mtzee is a fair arrange-
mentinr~21concerned- If the U.& Congress further kn-
I am fuIly aw~xe tha~ there w~]l be or¢~s cigarette taxes ~.nd ~.he maau-
another time wllen we will again visit, facturers do not abSorb all or at le~t
the i~tie of 24. 30, or 36 cents a pack part of an increased cigarette tax, the
eigare~te tax. This is n0t the time or Lucreaaed l~rice will primarily impact
theplzceinrit. Iwouldhopetha&tny individuals ~th loW" to moderate in-
colle~'ues weald turn do~ the comes. A2though some groups have
amendment of my good fAend from ar~.led thaZ the cigarette t~x Should
RhodeL~innd. be incremsed becat~e a higher price
The PRESLDL"qO Ol~ICEl~. Who would forc~ these consumers to smoke
Yield thne? I~. I b~e':~ th~ m~% p~ple will
The Senator from Rhode Islan~L
continue to smoke, whatever the ec~t.
Mr. C~. ~/'. President. I listed Personally. I do not smo~e a~d do noz
~th ini.eres~ to the ~ccurate'deSCrip- encourage others to smoke, t~owet'er.
tion tile disfingUished ch~zrnan of the do not believe that it is soUnd public
~!nance Committee gave. but I do not policy to use the tmx system saa
think he meant to give zhe impression m~r~ of dIctatk~g the smoking habJr~
that this is a bargain that everybody cf the individual.
in the Finance committee wa~ In- ~Ir. l=residenL I ~2rge rny ¢olleague~
vo[ved in. Cert~.inly. Z ~ meyer L~.-
voNed in ~ny such agreement. Indeed, to oppose this increase in ta:~es.
as has~ been pointed out, I mad~ the Mr. HELMS addressed the Chair.
motion for the 32 cents a pack and was The PI~,~LDLNO ~FFICEI~. Who
defeated. BU~. tl%ere wa~ nothing thaz yields time?
subsequently tr~Isalred that rn~y be~r. PAC~V;OOD. I Yield to the
Senator from North Carolina SUCh
tL~e ~a he may desire. -
The PRESIDINO OFFICER. The
Senator from North CarolL~a~
Mr. HELMS. Mr. Pres£den~. I thank
t~e chaivm~ and I th~Jk the Chair.
Ylrst. I Wi~h ms' distinguished friend
(l~r. CIg&F~E) a happy birehday. I con-
f,. however tha~ f hol=~ l~ will not be
too happy when th~ vote is ~ken. The
Senator is my good friend.
~e and I were talking a few minutes
~]2e ~I~12Hle12t here is not a~o~E rebec-
or the mel~r~ 0f srnokmg. I have
n~'er e~Rffed ~ ~g2£1nellts abo~lt
~a~loking a=~ health. None o~ my chil-
dren smrJk~s and I hope none of my
8randehildYen will. Wha~ I try to brfng
before the Senate~ Mr. Presiden~ L~
the prevention-of the livelihoods of
s~rne 2~,000 f~m'n~ inmilie~ Who ~re
d@pende~lt on ~h~ growii2g income
they e~.~n by t0bac~o.
As for S.~nator C~'S amendment.
whert tL~.~ ~a~ ~eo. yielded b~ ~r
~ed br a ~ombination thereof, a point
of order ~L! be ~i~ed. and f suspect It
will be suaSained. Of course, the Sena-
tor will be within his ldghra, to appeal
t~e ruling of the C ba~r.
Let me point ou~ that in my Judg-
ment. this a~12dr~el2t ~ no~ ger~aan~
5; Z0013 L
erA! ~XC&~ tax on ei~tes fxor~ the
16 cents per pack DroWded for in the
reconciliation bill to 24 cents per pack.
The 16-cents~De~pack tax already
represent~ a doubling of what current
L~W would establLsh. A~ my colleagues
know, the additional 8~ent~-per-pack
t&x W~.S sohedtfled to s~u~et ~his year.
However, the Senate Fip2.uce Coronet-
tee h~ ~ropo~{~ a pef2Tl3nerl~, extort*
sion of the ~dditional 8-cent r.ax,
making the total permauent tax equal
to 16 cen~ per pack. In SO dome, the
eonur~ee al~ [i1c~:dd~ to. the reeat~4
cflla~i0n bi£1 a sect!on which ~'oUld
aChieve a much needed ~a~d important
reforn~ o~ the etlrre]~t tobacco pl~ce
~uppoft program. Incre2~ing c~gz~ret~e
~:ax~ beyoDd the Fccorflr/l~J2d~10n Of
the c0mmis~ee, however, woUld hRve
extremely detrLu~ental effect on

iOctober 27,, t985 • " CONGRESSIONAL ~CORD --SENATE
S 13781
The ~obz;Cco pro~lon of the budget tlon therefore bec~me a package. I re- chance to sur~ve or
whether 'xe are
recone~ation hi]/ merely strikes the luet~ntly gave my support to the IS-
October 1, 1~8~, datg. l~taLh,e to the cent ~2.x l~ exch~e for ~ refor~ Of
so.called sur~ezttng of ~e ~X. The theprog:~un.
effect of ~z~.~ng ~e date is to m~- I w~ll ~Ry tl-as, ~.r. t~esident. If
~'e
Cain the Federal excise tax a~ 1~ cents, can ar~ompiish tb/s. I be~AeTe 1~
~i.li b~
bu~ th~c amount is not mentioned. H0- the last t/me Lha~ at le~t th~ Senator
where fs tl~s legislation IS ~here & pro* Will be on th/s floor txY~ to referee
~Mon which spec/fica$/y se~ the tax the Tobacco Pr0gr~ I thLnk th~s ~fd
a~ 16 cents ot 2~ ~y ~iher level I~ L~ do the job becaP~e it lower~ the sun-
my mn~2er~bam~mg t~t t/~e oaly port ~r~¢e t~ below the m2.r~et !evel
:~]ei2d~2~n~s Ln order or~ :~ b~/d~e~ l'~co 8~ld ~he ~xce~ pr~oe hs.~ b~n the
onciIi~ti~ b~ll ~2e those to s~2ike or to c~use of the problerm So I thimk it is
ch~.~ numhe-ns aad dates or to l~m/~ bmpor~nt t0 emph~lze the benefits
or r_~sr21ct the s~ope Of the D~V/SiOD3. o~ nlaint~i~ing the ~obsmco package
i12
This araen~e~t to lug-ease the ~1.-( it3 entirety, umamcnded ~nd tmm.odi-
~bove 16 cenLg adds new pro~%Mons to f~d~
the bil feather than striking ~/~e entre Th~ agreem%ent Lh~.t is the basis fo~
previsions, ~nd does not ch~mge ~- the t~baccu legislation is a
finale.ned.
ber~ or change d&tes or lim/t or re- deUcately ba/anced ~nstrct~enL I~ IS
~c~ the ~cope of the pro~dz/ons. In t~he product ~t months of v~x/ous
fac~, it coldd be ar~aed Zh~t Lncres3i~g mad constant ne~oti~io~.~ amcn~ the
She ~ax ex~K~d.~ oy bro~deDz ~.h@ ~:~pe ~fowe~, r~6. ~l~et~ r~A~ufRctur~r~---
of the ex~tln¢ excise tax provision. "everybody across the sl:~ctrum. If
~O, when the time ]92£ expired one a~nyone here t~|t 12~.~ been e~y to
way or the o~her, either by y~elding 1~
b~k or usin~,- it, • l~mt of order cer-
talnly ought to be raised n~/ns~ thi~
amendment, perhaps by the distin-
~UShed chairm~n of the Cou~.u~ttee
on P~n~nce or the di~in~ui~hed chmr-
m~n of the ComZ~tte~ on ~he
Bud~et-~r I ~h~/l be glad ~o do it.
Prelunm~ry to tha£, Mr. !=resident,
on behRlf of the app~x'~nately
20~.000--some esth~. &fez are (h~.t ther~
are r~ many as 300,00(]--~obzeco fa..'rn-
e-'~, I l~.Ust o~*~ose hi~ 8~lendD~e~t, ~%3
the Chair ~l! rec~l], i~ w~ my zmend-
men~ to the Tax Equity and ~s c ~/ ~e-
s~on~ibLhty Act of 1982 that called for
the temporsry 16-~en~ Federal ex~t-
ing tax to suP~et back to its o~i~m:~.
level of 8 cents on October I. 19S5,
T~lere~ore, it is somewhat Of an ~*iom.
~ly for me to ~o to ~OB PACI~W'OOD ~ I
did a/Id dJe~ss the srran~ement that,
v/as eventu zl/y Klrlved ~L
The ~tln~ ~rovision which- I
added to that 1982 act w~.~ ~, ~sitlon
to which I w~--s c~t~d. I felt ~h~t
t.he ~unse~ shou/d ~e place. ~U~ tnne
~)~.~ses ~nd el2~/D~stan~es ch~2~e. H~re
in 1885, I find myself repres~ntLng juss
~bout every~)ody conce-'ned in ~erms of
~he Drodu~on of ~ob~.cco advo~aling
that ~ m~m~e¢ provist on not be hnpie-
mezlr~e d.
HAvin~ snJd ~h~t ~ President, iX
the repeal of the m~ns ec prof.,/on %ve~
lJke/y he t~nsidex~d ~d the concez~
w'.~s to ~void ex~ended debe£e, we ooll-
eluded th~.t tob~-~o ~TOWerS deserved
some degree of pro~e¢~ionlr~m the ~.d-
verse eff~ ~f the ~.x iucr ~e. It wss
fei~ that the ~ost aD~r~Dr/~te Way
achieve th~ w~a ~o ~end ~he Fb~-n~
C~imi~ee recor~t~.tlon package to
Lndud~ our tobs.cco ~r~gra~) Drov~-
sio]33 ~.~ ~. CD~I~IdO/~ m~dre to the
16-cent per~ne~ tax. Tha~ was e~
tir ely fair b e~u.~e ouz ~"~gn~ were ~-
tended to estabUsh ~, diree~ ~e be-
twe~ the ci~A'et~ ~_~ In£Tesse ~d.
~enaLo~" PA~W~2OD l~S elo~'AeIl~
expla/ned ~, the ref~rnl of the Tobac-
co Fro~r'~s. The 16-ce~¢ e~L~e t~.~
the To~-mzc~ ~r~ ~d£f~-
br~.~ KU these people together, let me
a~sure ray ¢0llea~*~es it h2.~ not been
easy. We cotmted up not i~g ag~* ~nd~
s~nce the fL'~t of this year, I h~ve Der-
~ on ~dly been involved in oTe~ 100 meet°
L~F:~. cordoned, studies. S3]d tele-
]~ho~e cs.l~ o~ an h21~or~ant n~.$ur~
c OD~.~TJ/2~ tl~S refor~ of the Tobacco
Pro~ram. Many of the par~ioiD~-n~ in
t.he development of t]'/~ package have
been d.~ggcd k~ck~'lg ~-~d ~cre~rnl~
toward wh2,t We h~ve now. The ~olnl~
is th~ I do believe that with rare e~-
c~pLiom mc~ Deo~!e u~derst~nd this
is the er/y ~y that we can ;~reserve
th~ ]/v~lihoods Of th~ people ~ whom
I ~n~ interested, q-n~t i~ the ~rol~p Of
up to 300,000 t ob~cco farmers.
C~lrette ~s/%tt~ct~re~'s h~ve i~l~de
cleSx to me ~hat they ~11 not par~.ici-
pate ~ the buy-~uL of the SUrpl~/S
stock~ in st~bfiizatlon if the gigurette
tax goe~ ~bove 16 cen~. ~o that blows
~/s ol~t of the ?.~ter ~ ter]21s of ~v/r-
lug the r~formm that glv~ ~ any h~pe
Of restor~on of ~ subst~ntl~/ ~ort
trade ~nd ~ the other b~nelI~ to our
economy. ~o I have to fight ~s beat I
to Dyeserve ~h8 D~ck~ge ~h~t Sei2a-
tor PAC~K~'00D a2~d o~he~ ~d 1 ~.2.ve
worked 0~t.
Let ~'~e S&y here 8~d now th~lt ~
g~ateful to senator pAc~rwoo~ for ~U
the coo~er~.~io~ he h~.~ ~'~ver* us. "I'i2e
bu:;~ou~ L~ an Lnterdependent p~v~ of
the Tob~co Pro~ reform. T.he ne-
~tiated package weu/d be severely
d~ged if the comp~nies were forced
to t~Ke & w~/k a~ z~ r~.~l~ of the tax
rK~e of 24 cents.
One more poL'lt ~J'ld I sh~!l eone!ud e
and let the others speak~ Every s~ep of
the ~-ay I h~ve ende~zor~d ~ act Ln
good f~Rh, and h~ve. SO ha~'e those
w~h whom I have dealt, and not ~.I1 of
thema are entirely fr~endly ~ my pos~-
ti~ NO~ all of them are entirely
f~iendly toward m~ p~tior~ kll~
wher~ we .h~%'e dJs~gr~e~ we h~ve
~.%'reed to ~./s~gr~ 8.gree~b~y, ~o we
come r~ ~2~ point .q(~w wher~ w@ ~e
gOL']g r/) ~x/r~ over tObRC~O ]2~d;~C~ioIl
to fozeign producers ~:~h a!! of [.~s L~-
~l]cations.
.~fs.n$, press re~orts, including uhe
W~shln~on PO~L indicated ~ome th~
back that the Presidvnt was going to
veto the 45-day extension of ~he ci~a-
rette tax. The President end I had
conver~t~on, znd I am grateful to him
for hL~ ]udB2nent that he OUght to go
a~ong with that exte~.~on. Now, ~he
PTcsident has a/zo--amd I ~/ ~7 this
because it ough~ to be • mai~er of
reCord--gone on ~ublic record as being
Ln¢lined to veto even a Dern'm/2ent ex-
ter~fon ~f the cig~met~e tax ~ the cur-
rent level of 18 cent~. Now, if he is
going to veto *.h~.~, Wh~.t ~II he do tO
Senator C za~/~'s proposal to elevate it
to Z4 eels?
Now) I c~m-not ~ ~ nc~ ~sk ~h~
President to s~gn ~u~ng greater
than i~ cents,
Another remson why the tax should
not be increased Is t~ ~he budge~
reconciliation package is already ~2.S
billion over in ~roJected s~_ving~, Now,
~r~cr/ve t~rget to make up any short-
c~ming~ in rev.~nue, but ~ccording to
the statistics avai!able to me the
Senate i~ living up to its obligation
without z.ny added t axatioI~: ~nd we all
know how ~he President fee!~ about
I do than~ ~he Senator from Oregon
for yi¢!ding to me.
The PRES~IN~ OFFICER. %~Jho
y[e!ds ~ Lrae ?
I~I~. pAC]~*V.rOOD.~ yield such t~:~e
a~ the Senatc~ from Kentucky may
Deed.
The PRESLDI~G OFFICER. "iq:e
Senator from Kentucky.
Mr. I~ORD. I~r. PyeSident, I thank
the distinguished manager of the ~ill,
the Senator from Oregon [Mr. PAC~-
WO~D], for allowing me ~o have some
t~*me to ~ on this fs.sue, "~nL~ is
probably one of th, e most lmporr~J3~
Issues t~ the con.~kueney that I rel~re-
se~t~ I~ LS a~ important to my State ~s
is, ~o the d~nguished Senu~0r from
P~ode Island. jeWelery ~nd silver and
S~ver pI~e, ][ ~ S~12~ he does not
wsau~, a tax placed ~n thos~ Just a~ I
wan~ no I~dditiomfl t~ on cigarettes.
Bu~ let me ra~ke a couple ef ~oint~,
if I m~y. Mr. P~-es~den~. We have
worked on tl'ds Dackage for ~ year.
Many fine peoD!e in my S~a:e have
traveled from ~own ~o to~n hold meet-
Lugs on this l~ue. Our farme~ h~ve
pitched Lu and hm'e b~n able to hire
some peopIe to help pet some lem-
~l~ge tog~'~her thaz WOUld ~e ~e-
able to ~er~ They h~ve come to-
~ther ~ith manufacturers. They have
s$~rlfk~d t~ th~ niece of leg~l~tion
that we a:e hop Lug to pa~s as milch ~s
any group of people in this co~/~ .~rI.
They tunde.~mnd ~h~t thm~s change.
They understand th~.~ pe~.ple h~.ve to
~'~mg tm deelde whether ~he 250,G00 $o give and to sacrifice. ~u% they do rot
3~,000 ~obacco fa~erz ~q]l ]~ve ~ h~ve to give all thell b1~d.
5BZ001370

13782 , CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- SENATE
October :72, 1585
Let us lock at what we are attel~p~- ~'Ir~t, ~e h~.ve increased the basic
Tobacco price support progran~ a¢-
ing to do w~th this amendmcnL I
think the farmers, the ~Powe.~, ~nd
the m~.w.ifaoturers I%~ve arrived ~.t ~2
asreement. We reduce the SUpDt)rt
price approximately 3~ cent2, & poulad.
Thax is ~ goo~ ~.nd substmatiM red~c.
titan. T~'o, we have ~rrit'ed ~ ~ ~Agr ce-
ment to elil~nate the surpltus of to-
b,tees ~er ~ period of time, Three, we
h@.ve ila my opild(~ia allo~%~d aDproxi-
mtt~ely $2 billion to come back to the
Commodity Credit Corpox-a~ion, The
GAO said that this bill xvou]d ~&ve.
from the tlme of its enactment in th~
fiscal year. in 3 years $235 million,
o%'er 5 year~ it ~'otdd be 8~00 mellon.
A~d four~h, we ia~ve impOsed a new
~X 0]% st~okc!ess t Q~8.cco.
}For all practical purposes the addi-
tional 8 c~nts is a new t~.x becaume i~
should have ~unsetted on September
30. The :President ha~ ~en{. word 1;/~at
he L~ not very happy with ths.t ex~en-
si0n, bu~ hopeful/y if we can hold it a~
16 eenr~, the companies then ~211 be
part of ~l~e ~.w:eenlen~, $nd ~tle ?e=~la*
tion w~l b~come laW.
We mu~t lOOk at tha~ sraa/l fanaer,
-~r. President. W~ talk about damag-
ing Ii~le peo~le. ~n my ~ta*e, there
are approxtmately 101.000 small farm-
e.,-5 wi~h all avocado of thr2e-qus~el~
o~ itn 8.cr~ of tobficco--tlaP~-Q~rters
of :~n acre, Think abou~ tha~--~ small
~m~II piece of income. And we ~.re
s~.ylng here today ~h~t We not only
W~It to iI2creflse the tax to ~ce wh~t
we ~vei¢. we wai~ ~o ir?cr~Rse i~ ~22r~
times. We are sa~4~ng to tb~t small
farmer, who asks very Uttle but pa~s a
10~. to go out of i)tashaess. Oh, we oxe
~oin~ ~o hear tb~ is fDr our heallh,
bta~ we at@ tlot ~r~uing hea/th, we ~.re
arguing tlie ~urv~val of rsbt~Cco $.nd
the cost. due to increased taxes, the
I~ purchas~ af durnestiC ]eal.
Let me say this to you, Jolt. Presi-
dent: If this legi~la~ion is defe~.t~d--
a~d it ~ill be defe~ted if we increase
the t~x beyond 16 cenL~--there wfl] be
.no Tobacco Progr~trm Just think ~ou%
it a little bit. All tha~ mu~plus will
belong to the Goverrmlelxt ~2xd we call
get rid of it the bes~ ~ay we can @.t a.
c~st of $4 bflllon. When you c~.n grow
rob@coo fror~ fence row, ~0 ~e/Ice ~ox1~,
a2W a~notln~ that¸ ~'ou v;KIl~--t~er~ is
nu limatatien--th~ cost is going to go
down. R'O~ can buy generlcs now. Oh,
~e have been told on zhis floor today
Wha~ c~st, cigarette smo~Lng h~ been
~0 the t~xps.~e~ through .~:~edle:are
al~d ~tedicald. Well,-le~ rae ask this
quest, ion: if ~he heaisll groups ci~i.~l
tha~ ciga:ret/e sr~oklng has cos~ the
tax: second, ~'e have taxed smokeless;
third, we h~ve reduced the ¢os~ ts the
~eder~l Government. and hiur~h, if
ti~ ag?eeraent is ~'lot held, then ~;e
S~'e ilo tob~co pro~. OUr f ~l'~ep~
wfli vote i~ Out...gli of ~he cost~ o~ the
sur~lu~ tobacco will be borI~e bF the
ta~ay.ers ~ ~. whole. We hi,re g prO-
po~l~l to work i~ o~t and to save a~
lea~ $3 bilifon--at lea~t $3 billion,
Go to the GAO report, ~he blue
boo~ le~ me read from the Comptrol-
ler General's report, Ig say~, as it re-
latas r~ who would "0e paylng in the
future:
B~use a prog'ram is no longer in effect,
any I~es on ~ t ol~eeo. ~o ~he extem not
OffSet, By ~r~%'io~sly collected ~essmerlI~,
~.roUld be ~md b~' r2~e taxpayer.
Should flue.c~red ~.=¢i burleF ~roducers
~L~o decide ~.gzd, l~t approving ~ pr~gr'a~.
~het~er in re~p~e to a~ incr~ed ~c~p
men~ or for ~ome ot~er ~a~ lut~e o~-
~e~ment~ ce~d not be placed u~*n them,
umd t ~xpaye~ ~ould be liable for may losses
that occur on nue-~,~ed ~n~ hurley tobacco
~r~def lomb.
SO if you begin to look I~t all the
facts mad try to ~2/*dersgs.lld t~, we have
offered a whale of an opportunity to
save ~h.e taxpayers money. Wlay kiIl
now? We tlave come more than half
WS, y. S*[I~/lOW yoI2 wRnt tO ~0~ th~ ~-K
on the little fellow, tile th~ee-quarter
~f an acre small f~er. 101.000 Of
them tn m~ Sm~e.
You wffi ~tand up and ~quea/ pretty
good when we offer a 2o-percen~ tax
en some .,c~eir~ and ~Iver ~'~ Silver'
plate. I can hear ~he z~ueal$. I can
hear everybody sa$~ng, "YOU csn't do
th~ tO u~. [$ ~ otlr maiD. ir*eo]~.e"
Well ~his is our n~Lo incor~e in oLur
State, e~peci0J/y in the rural area.
I implore my colleagues: Let us not
go this route. We have m~.de ~n agree-
menL Ih is good for everybody con-
ceraed. It hurts the farmer more th~n
an~'bod~' else, The grower is hurt more
than ~nybody e~e. Ye~, we keep want-
kng tO do a little more. ~U I have
hear(1 toda~ is "fan~ crisis," "in dehg."
"hard ~h~eB." Yet, we stand on ~his
floor and ~ttng to put a little more
hard tLmes on zhe little feliow in the
f~rm con'daunit y.
t yieid the floor.
l%¢r. PAC~WOOD, Mr. President,
ho~" mu6h time do I have remaining?
The PRESIDING OFF/CE~. The
Senator has 30 minutes and 51 ~ec-
on~.
Mr. PAC~'~VOOD, I yield 8 minutes
to ~he Sem~.or from Nentueicy, a~d
~hen I ~all yield to the Senator from
Virginia-
taxpayers S4.2 bfl]ion through ~A~edi- /~r. ~cCO1TN~ I thank the Sena-
care ~nd _%~edfcaid. th.e total co~t to tot f/~m O~egon. the chall2nan of the
the Federal GovelnmenL of M.edisa/d ~t~ance Cnmrnlttee, and. I thank
,%rid Mecd~re Programs for fism~J. 1984 esDecizJ/y for his ttndersta.nding and
~.'~ approxinmtelF $82.5 billion. If to- cooperar/on in tills most Lraportant
t:~cc0 t~se,-s "amoLtn~ ~o o~dy $4.2 b/I- iszUe to ~. number of tob~ec0 S~a,
te~.
lion. tha~ c/early raeazm ~here must be As m?," eo]/eague from Kel%tucky has
~. group OLIL there respo:b~ibie for a, said very e!oQueIl~ly, whet* you ~re
l~rger pare: of i~. . talking about tmba¢co ms it. rel~.tes
to
/~ec me ge~ doWr* to ~he ~oiu~ chg&t is /Cen~uok~, .~u are r~'l#ft~ s.bott~
~he
~o hnport~nt--the pack~ge: b~is o/out econo~ay.
count for more than 9 percent of the "
lobs in the State of Kentucky. The
to~al cash flow of Kentueky'~ tobacco
crops exceeda $I billion. Indirect bene-
fi~ from this crop amoun~ to Over $2.5
b]ili0n.
Fully $ percent of Kentucky's ==ross
Stat~ product is dire~tW deper~dent on
eonthiu~ton of the q['obacco llrograrn.
Just ~ i-perc~nt ios~ itl tobacco output
causes ~ 10ss of 545,000 Jobs and $25
million to K en~ucl~.v's economy.
LO~S ol the Tobacco Progra.tn would .
cutme ~ ~ec!ine of over $1.5 billion in
farm/and values. Fu/iy $130 n'J/iion in
State tax ret'enu~s is ge~le.'t~d as ~t
dire~t r esu/1: of thlS pro granl.
K~I1tuck~ county g0~'~r~e~t5
would lose $50 rcAlllor~ in property t~x
revel21tes without ~. Tob~,cco Progrsy~.
This less wolald be partieo/arly devas-
tatlr*g to IOCal school sy$~:em~, county
services, ~nd ~ount y roads.
O~'er 150.000 Kentucky farme:s
prodnce tobacco, snd 250,000 families
~ha.re in ~he proceeds. It ~.ffec~s 5¢7
percent ¢~f ~entue~F% 3,8 mAllion oitl-
zeDs. Over ~wo+thirds of Kentucky's
fS.IT~el~ de!u~d ola tobacco prodLtotion
for over 50 percen~ of taheir gross
This is even more s~gnificsmt when
you realize tha~ 75 percent of Ken-
~v.c~.~"s farmers h~ve ne~ £~ ?i2corn~
of less than $10,000. Tobacco produe,
tlon aceount~ for 12 Percent of the em~
plo~Tnent Ln ~entueky's 10 poorest
the ~entuck~ aveI~g~.
F~Ta Supply dealer~ would be devas-
tated, as over 40 peI~e~ of gross S0.1ee,
~ze ~]~.t ~d to ~obacco produc~on.
On a eoLmty level, the l~ of the to-
"oa.c~0 prog'TS,D2 iIx a I:iloder2.t~ tobacco
county would account for ~ loSS of
income roughly eqL~/ tO W'b~ ~he new
General Mo~ors factory is expected to
brlng ~ SDr ung Hill, TN.
},~r, President, I tl~nk that puLs the
i~utt in Derspect~e in terms of the
hnp~t of this crop or, Kentuqky.
What are we talking about in this
debate? The Issue, I a~ure Senators, is
no~ smoking. YOU can e}irnIp~te the
tobacco DrO~'~L YOU can r~ime the
cigarette tax, as ~he cUst ~nguia hod Sen-
ator from ~.hode Island ha~ suggested.
There wall ~U be smoking.
Wh~t this whole ismm is related to is
~he welfare of the farme,'~ of Ken-
~ucg.v, North CarolL'2a, virginia, Ten-
nessee, Sou~h Carolina. and neighbor-
mg St~.tes. who make s. slgxlificmnt
~u~ttnt o~ their income fror~ ~rowing
this legal er0p. There is ~0 gOOd alter-
narJ.%'e in many part2, of our State. in
the eastern par~ of Kentucky, wher~
the hills 0axd mountains are iotund in
vLr~ually every e~un~y, there is not
much flat la.~d. %Vhat cma you do prof-
itably on on.half am'e?
A~ ray dlstingtdshed eelte~.gue front
E~entuck.v [~enator PO~] pointed out,
the &verage siz~ Df ~he tobacco ~llo~-
m~,~ ;x~ o~ ~£~.£e is abou¢ three-quit.
~ei~ of ~/i ~r¢, a.xld ~ ~'e mueb
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!!shed m ~he other body. Our actiol-~ ~x~ and r.o~ iL is ~ime for the eflect what [~ does i~ ~o
pena!L~e ~l~e
That ~ ~. nuclei! ~ wh~ ~ob~C~o fa~inK~n~u~ydepend~iL
i~gi~ia~lon is ~c!uded h~ ~ budga~ deii-
~i~ ~LL~sioI~4 ~lII. ~r~ ~X~ some
o~her kssues ~volved ~h&t should
b~ addresse{~ here.
~TOklp~ t~d the t~bacco m~u~&~b~et~
that L~ ~e ba~ts for the Tobaec~ I~c~
gram Impro~-emen~ Ac~ of I~85 is an
long anck dt(~i~l~ neg(~on leot t{~
~l~i~ &~xeem~n~ ~nd ~LI ~f the l~**~s
~he~'eLtI are critfcal to t~¢ ~ho1~o I~
one sh~gl~ l~al't of this &~eeme~ ks
changed ~b.s~&ntfall~, ~hen the p~o~-
L.~[ i~- cite o~e- ~x~ic~]pl~. ]~ll-. ~/-e~-
dent, o~ ~h~t I m~mu A l-cen~ ~-
crease in the c~g~ ~x tz-a~sI~.le~
re~e m~r~ttfactu~s. ~c~ wh~ ~i~?
sales ~olnme co~t~ bi]1~(ins o~ doIia~ in
means th~ m~ I~e~tuc~ f au'~JF f~m~
ei~ ~l} be- !otced ~o ~ca.nt~.t!y
reCILk~. ~1~ir ~.~r~e o~ tobB.coc~ at I~
tim_~ whe~1 ti~efr back.~ ~re a~re~d~
l~e~cl le~s t(~t~cc~D. As ~ res~]~ of ~.he
the i~,clinat io n. to spend ~he bii~io~s o~
dO!la:~ which ~i]l be req~i.'e~ t~ ~r-
ch~se ~. billio~ I~ounds of ~d~]~S tO-
tO ~a~'~q~t e i~ t~ invent o~" bt~'out.
which is an in~eg~ par~ of the a~Te~
ment. I submit to my coIIea~e~ ~h&~
b1~ ~nd the t~x~ayez~ will be left
h~Idin~ the bag for $4~ bl] llo~ woI~ o~
tobacco.
be made adch-es~m~ th~ l~Fk~
is~u~ I ~co~m~e ~ba~ the heatzl~
~oin~ to gn awa }'~ 18u~ I think I I~ ~k'c} to
eotl~a~e~_ peOl~le a~e gOL~@~ ~O ~UZO~
even L( t~e~ ~ ~ • viab}e t~bacc~
p~o~tam. So the real issue L~ no~
~he~ze~" peopI~ Will ~ont~ to SIil~ ke
S~at~ or by h~nd~eds o£ ~ho~sand~ o~
arc~Ii ~amfly ~azme~. As ~ matt~ ol
econom~ and s~eial policy. I pre~e~ to
thL~ t~e latter is deniable.
In eo~c!usio~m Mx. l~es~d~r I ~uld
~e m~' collea~ue~ ~o ~jec*. any ~t-
Mx. President. i~ Closing. I s~hou!d
like to make one othel cbseF:~i~, i
am e~rdiden~ ~13~ ~here ~7~ many
here toda~ who s~pl}or% ~he C~ee
a~nendme.~¢ a~d be~ev~ ~h~ a~ L~4
the sta~Lstics, yo~ tmm~diat~ c-oi~c!~-
sio~ k~ th&t i~ mi~h~ ~erBely aYSec~
has levele~ ou~ I venture tc~ ~i~ t~at
what ~ re~lly h~p~.e~ L~ ~ ~£~o
rett~ ~.~ |~ mc~e'~sed, as tJ~e dJ~zkno
~L~ed ~en~a~ from l~de I~le.~d
would stm~iy fled ~ Way to ob L~in ~.~e
tob~c-~o rn~_-i~ ~e~p]~'. That is. i~or~
additional tob~c'¢0, a~ the "~cJ~-
~is1~d ~a~a~ o~ the A~c'o$.~o.Te
Commi~.~ t~e ~e~a~or f~r~i~ .~*orT2~
Carolina. k~low$ in order to ~io
the~ ~'~fi~ recap.in; a~d ~he I~_~ l~er
Ca~nIir~ ~e~n~cl~y. vizglzda. ~Eer_nes-
see. E~-~ C.~rtfl.in~ and o~her Sta~e~
To ~:ive ~ ~ew s~.tL~tie~ along th&~
line. dI~z~.n.~ tJce pe~od o~ t.~ 8-cen.~
o°5~4 mJ~ior~ un 1984.
D~tng ~e £ame ~.e~d, ~he col!e~
~Lbrley a~c~ ~ue-c~zed tobacco was re~
d~d by ~er SO0 rnJ]lio n p(~ ~d~ or
I~-13~.-~13t CI~(%-~e L~ ~he ~.o~J~ o~
tobacco th~ ~.n individ~l¸ ~'er
¢c~Jd ~.lan~.
• Eve~ v.~th this ~i~,~.~ z'~:~on
~21ue-¢urec[ tn~ea~ed by ~T~ ~i~ioz~
• I~{I ~0 mCIto~ !~otmd~, r es~e~cively.
eLsewi~e~ to b~y cheape~ tob*zo~o to
re~au~ their pr~fi~ mat=*'zr~* Th~ !m~r-
cha~e o~ foreiR.~ toba~o ~nd Lb~ 1.~o~e
Iz~ve~t ar$ ~tock~ v¢fil m~dat e ~ Lbe
ev¢~ thoL~gh cig~r~tt~ ~r~dtl~io,~
not d~ol)I~ed~ ~mc~ I~
beL~.g p~u~'~ ~md • r~re ~*obaeeo
being Lmpo~d.
[~tlz~o~ L~ ~¢rvec~ by e'xtendin~ ~tn~
~a.~ be~toncl th~ l~ee~t le~'eL I hope
I~ ~de ISLT~ d will ~ de~eated.
tempt Lo dLsm~n&le.th~ a~p~ez~ent. The P.R.~SI35~G OFEIC~. Who
The p~ti~ oi the bobaeo} f,~nE1~" h~ve ~ y~elcL~ time?
ct~l~l&ye~ Lmpreeede~ted ~mt~ to .~,~r. l~AC~07OOI). ~I]t. ~'e~iden~, I
reac~ Lh~ I~oL~ and [~ ~ c."it~c'~I ~h&~ yield 5 m0~t}~e~ to L~e ~e~a~or L~m
ti~.~ en~ir~ a~reem~ rern~irt ~ Vir~ia.
Th~ Senate- Eilm~.ee Commit~e~ ~..~s I~Ir. W2~I~. :Mr. P~si~er~. I
reac~ea • ve_~ re~:~bl~ comp~mi~e th~]d~ IJae di~iz~.u~hed ~en~tot I~m
grower~ ~d c~mpante~ hav~ ~ea~hed ~ ~ ~r_ ~ide~r. I ~ blink thL~ t~
0t1~h~
OLlt b}" the ~WO dis~in~dfsl'~d Se:zg.cors
%rorn Kentucky, a~d falls dh'ec:l$" on
I~ u~ha*~e ~.~i e'~- ¢}~aret te~. The a~luei".~
L~d~vidua2s will ~cceI~ ~h~ ~x ~d i~
will :~ot ~ffec~ ~le£r l£fes~yles wh&~<o-
ever, bt1~ thL~ ~x will direc~ly l~p~ct
It ~eem~ to m~ ~hLs i~s~e wa~ ca~ f~lo
ly resolved i~ tha FLrmnc~ C(]romi~t~
and ~'e w() uld ba well ~dv~ed to, l~&ve
it &s ~ w'~.~ decided ]~y tha~ c(~rn mi~ tee.
The PP~ESIDING OP!~IC~EL ~-no
yie!~s ~tme_~
t~ PACIC37CO GD. k~r. Pr~ident, let
me jus~ &sk this ~ne ~esti(~n. I ~old
a13-~ady. I do i~o~ kI1o~r il the Sen~.Lor
from New .Te~ey i~- read'.t to s~e~k-
~iml)ly want ~0 ~ind ~u~ i~ ~I~.e ~en~tor
w~.rlts ~0- g~ ~or~ Or ~fter ~he Senator
~o BE~AI2L~3£_ I ~ill gc~ .~ftcr the
1~r. I=ACKN¢OC)D. I yield 5 mL~utes
t*D t~e ~iis.+~¢Ji, ~i-o~ T~ r~ ess~e.
The ]PR~SI~I~TG O~-~PIC~. T~e
~e.n2.t~r fiord. Tenne~ee is reco£-/LL~eci
*3~r. SASS~I~. }..'r. P~-e~ident, I ~ha-'Lk
~-. pr. e~f de:~t* ~ st ron~1~ ~]p]p o~e tlzi~,
c~g~t e~. ~ my col]e&~tles have !ndi-
c~ted, the aiT~end/~eZlt before ~ ~o~]d
1~ein~ o~ these ~homsa~c~ 0~ ~m~JJy
f~i'~is Se eL~s to ~e loss on the ~1~i3.ot-t -
~LL~ clear to t21(}$e o~ U~ who l~P.v~ ~o-
bo.cc 0 ~a~Tne~ z~ ouz home Sta~e.
If% my 13om~ S~.te o~ Tezii~L~see, we
have ~0~ 38,000 ~arm~ o~ ~¢hicl~ t(~
]e~e~ usu".~IIy a~soelat~ tob&¢co with
~es ~ch a~ I~e ntllc[~y or t~e C~:oli-
na~ ot Tennessee or VirBinia~ i~ is •
worth notin~ th~ tobacco L~ ~'. 0 wl~ i.n
17 States. FT0~ iv[a.~s~cbu~ett~ a~d
~or~3ect icu~ ~o Wisc ortsLn ancI Indlar~a.
~zo~} %n31 tL~d tobaccc~ ~a~T~ers. T~ b~cco
b~Li1e~e~ I~I~os~ L~ C o~nt~y_
The £mportance o~ tob~cc~ ~ ou~
~tiorx'~ fatmer~ L~ ~ee~ L~ the fact
~ha~ ~obaeco ts ~sua~ly ~he Si.x~ LT~-
e~ ~ CZ~p L~I tSme~ca. I~ 1983, ~o-
ba~co farm ~ale~ totaleCi $~.4 bilI~n~
4.~ perc~ o£ 311 arol~ ~ale~. for that
ye~ and 2.~ p~cent of the va.L~ ~r
~Ii ~m e~mmoditie~. Tobacco ~.nc[ to-
bacec, produet~ addeck $~.~ bi111o~ to
the ."T~.tiol).'$ ~i-0~ i1~on~.1 1~rocti~ fn
19T9. ~Yoe Depo.~T~ue~u~ of A~i~m~It-&re
~po~t.~ t1~t. bo~h dlreeilv a~nd i~d{-
tecta, t.oh~cco ~.~r~ete.ce~ ~ ~iEon
j~bs. $30 b&]].i0r~ i~ w~e~ a.~c~ ~arni~.~s
~.nd ~i~ bLlIion in. ~apit s2. i~,ve~t m e~
per },ear.
IS ~.~ ~o~ a.~ thov~h th~ tobacco
farmer ~ ~h~ ~h(~ se~} t~o
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The poorer the ~'orhan, tha less Hkely effect, I th~r.k t~t L~ what this rex- co
cornp~nie~ ha~ Ie~d to the deve!oF-
sheiato~ok~ ~Lion~tempti~g~odo.~dindoL~g i~e~t of t~e ~'~obgce~* ~g~ In~-
In ~y, ~. President, there
are m~r~- re~o~ wl~y ~$ cig~e~te
ta-"a ~hould be :~e~L Whll~ m~.ny
Gtah~- ~,~-<~ hal~e been incr~ed L~.
recent year~, the ci,~.rette t~x ~ de-
elmed s~'n~ic~altly £a real cerm~ over
~he decade~ Tile eo~ of smok~n~--~
terras of do~$ and i~es--is L~ge. ~n~d
ra~ing the tax ~ll reduce ~e
u~age, p~rzlcu~zly among young
~eo~le.
S~, ~r. I~es~den~ I ur~ ~ha~ the
~e~t~" SL~I~Oi'~ thL~ 8~lelz~1~t. no~
orAy for ~he ~eason~ ~hat I hm'e of-
fered-not only bemuse i~ will reduce
health e~re costs ~.nd reduce ~he ~axes
th~ ~21 h~.ve to be p~id in fu~dre
year~ to pay for the he~kh care cc~
~ssoemte6 ~th ~mo~an~. not only b~-
cause k~d~ ~ tb~s eeuntrlr ~ou1~ be
~pare~ the he~l~h t~Ye~.t ~hzt cig~-
7g to 80 me-*'a~nt of people sa~Do~ this
k~nd of a ~ax ineresse, no~ orgy ~e-
so, I would ~oln£ our that i~ i~ ~ re~oTes-
sire ta.'u I£ b/is hardes~ on £ho~ }e~st
able to pay. Pr~)bably ~okh1~, ~;lle ~h-
er one !ike$ it or not. i~ ~he iu~r~ of
gh~ ~orking men ~md workm~ woman
Lu ~h~ ~ountrF, and ~hose ~ ~he lower
end o~ the econcn~ S~ale. s~ is tmle
~i~h ~n~ re@Tessive tax bear the Erect.
burden of it•
"~.~ ~ea!t hy, ~I~ rl¢/l. ~ho~e who ~re
SUbstmn~i~/]y well of~, pay ~. bit more
for • D~e~g~ Of e/g~e~tes, o~ eOUI"S¢.
bu~ they will no~ have grea~ coneem
absu~ It.
I tblnk ~naliv I woul~ note..~.
PreSident, ~ha~ ~his Dar~ieu~ gac "kage
is ~. c~" ~L~ly craf£ed on~ of compro-
mise, ~rying to deal wi~h this issue of-
~x~ior~ as weL~ s.s ~o de'a/ wi~h the
general Lssu~ of the tobacco pr o~l-am_ I
think ig is in the best interest of sll
jecte~
I appreciate the o~portun~F U)
c~use i~ ~ould held reduce ~he dell- s~esk~oiL
ci~--but because. Air• ]:)re~/dent, sooner ~r. lC~esident, since 1982 when th~
orla~ertheE~en~tev~o~reco~,I cigarette ~xcise tax w~ ine~ed
bel~'e. ~uDpor~ng this ~nd of ~n~nd- f~om 8 ¢~nta to !~ ce~. consumers of
men~. An~ f~on~ mF pe~ec~, ~he ~h~cco prod~c~ h~ve borne an ~nordi-"
sooner ~hebet~en n,~e ~h~re of ~he ~xe~ that ~e L~-
M~ PACI~VOOD addressed zhe posed st ~ ]ev~ of gove~en~. ~t
year ~moxer~ D~d Federal, S~e, and
The PRESIDIN~ OF~C~. The
M~ PAC~WOOD'. I ~eld to the
M~ FO~D. M2. President I w~u/cl
lik~ to have i minute ~o rebu~ ~e Sen.¸
a~or from New Jersey. lTia~ is all i~-
wou/d tak~
Mr. E-4~T add~e~ed zhe C 7~a h'.
Th~ PP.ESID~G OFFIC~ (Mr.
WI~ON}. "~h~ 3enamor from North
Mm~ EA~'I~. Mr*. ~eslde~t. l shS2d be
br~el~ ~nd probabl~ we ~'e overlndU~g-
ing the sub~ec~ rantO/y. I will n~ ~Z-
~empt ~o enlarge on ~n~ ~zr'd~4~-
mensiot* of i~. Aside fro~ the goo~
points ~ha~ h~ve ~d~ad y b~ m~de h)"
my diSt/~d collea~'ae abou~ ~he
cig~r~t z- ~aac% t e osccc-vroduc~
~tat e~ one thin~ I f/n(~ ~rou~mm i~
th/~ ei~o~ fs yat~ ~ ~ to m~/~, it
c~c~r~ to me. aocompL~h ~rahibitio~.
by tax~dan. ~n~ i ~h£n~ the ~enazor
from Ne~ Je-)~ey ~ conceded that
the ~he~ L~ ~ ~h~ le~ people
cc~surn~..
L query wh~ther th~. is n@t ~n a~tL~e
o~ the r~enu~iag system whe~
lees/ governmen~ more than $9 b!l*
llon h% Zsx rever~e. ThiS is ~le~.rIy
~*hree %Jmes ~,he ~tn.ou/%f_ ottr smaPl.
s~rugglhng ~ob~eeo farmers made /or
the£z 188~ cr o [~-
The increased exc~se tax h~ hut8
moa~. tl~e ~eopl~ wh~ ~e less~ ~ble to
I~my~ R~ently, l~of. Glen Ch~Dpelk of
Eas~ Cazoktn~. Unlver~i~y relesaed m
Study on ~he impac~ of ~ob~ceo t~xes~
part of Which I ~uot e:
sources o~ add/~ionsl r ~eD/~ e~, thelz km DOSI~
~/01] ~ not ~i~ou). ~i~¢ ~/rpr/sin~ ~ ~2~tive
t0rc co~mer d~zsions, z~nc} reduc~ o%-et~
ecn~n~ We~er~ PutTth¢iTaore, to~
~ ~ fr~tahle borer t~au~e lh~ d~
the *.~ ~o~ ~'~cts ~nd~ b~'~use the
~m~a~c~ ~ am) t~x~ s/~ ~s~
CO~D%ZS~ ~ Laxg~r ;)0rf~0~ el D~ and, n~-
n~mty centimes' budget s.
~U~ n~ ~ fh".0, mysell in a ~tr~n~
pr ~me~a ~ ~l (~der tc) ~ the TO-
b~c~ Prog~.m ~hm~ L~ so ~nt~d~ ~@ the
~-~ o~o~e2, Of ~J~ St ~.~es. i m~sz ~uppo~
the re%me excise tax ~h~ h~ dsmage~
no~ on/y the economic w~e of 5~)
provement AC~ of 1985. Tlus legusia*
dora L~ c:i~l~'~/ to the long-I~,'m, we!l-
bein@ of th~ irn~or)~t part of the
American ~Ticuisura indus:ry, and
tha~ ~S W~Y ig should, be ~¢luded tn
~he budget r ec o nc'2J.~.ti0n.
i~r. l~esidenL once a g'~/.~. our t obac-
than the~ fair ~hare of cuts and .'~-
ductions SO t~ t~y ca~ Drese~'~
the~ }ix~Ith~d~ WIthsut L~S le~-~L~
tlon. I fesx. tobacco farmers emsHy
eosld lose th~ li':elihood. I strongly
urge ml" eollea gue~ to join with me L~
su~or~ing this e.'/tic~], leg%SlS31on.
The PF~ZS~DLNG OFFICER. ~.Vho
yields tLme.~
3~'~ C I#_~.m ~ addressed the Chair.
The P!%F.~.IDI~G O.~2ICE~. Tke
Sen~t or f2am ~hed~Is]m~d.
l%.t.-_ C~L+~E. 1~r. President. I ¢on-
Wn~ulate ~he di~[n~uished ~ena~or
~r~t New Je.~_ey for hi% remarks_ I
~hought. they W~re r~ght, o~ tar~'st.
%qhat Lhi~ amendmen~ is all about,
~r. i°z~s~de~it. ~ ~l~mm-~on. is th~
Aa has been pointed ont e~.r1~er. ~. lot
ha~ been $~/d o~ t-hls amand~en~. I do
wa.n~ to thamk those. ~'hs have sl~ken
favor o~[ it. It. seer, stC Lne "xe a2e"
~E ki-~g, tw~ points here.
~re rLu-~in~ these h01Tet!d0uS dificit$
evez~I ye~.r, everT ~ddi~iOtlal eenl.
Cve~ dollar, every millisn or hiE[on
dcllat~ we can achieve i$ good for.the
~econd. this is m heahh measure~ 2.
vo~e in f~.vor o~ ~hi$ ~nendment is a
vote ~o }m~rove ~he he~d~I~ of our
Nat~cn. There ts a dlree~ corr~l;~tion
~e~ee~ )~he size Of the ta~; :~l~d ~he
o~o~r~ of smoking, s.~d partlc~I~r}~
in com~ee~Jo rt wiZh y~un~ people. The
~un~ ]~eo]~e ~e i~ ~he W:O~ th3~. do
no~ ka~'e e~oU~h f[nan~a~ ~lasti~ty ~o
theF csn ~nti~ue to) bu+y ~'e~tes ~ I
~he m~e~sed Drlce.
As ha~ b~en Doln~ed~ c~r. When we
wen~ f%om ~ to 16 cents. ~here ~-a.~ ~
fai~'IF dramagi¢ dem~ase "in ~he
number Of young ~op~e Who Were
sm~o]r2n ~. who to~ t~ smoKin~ or ~on-
bnued smog.
tee. Ther~ h~ ~. vote of 10 ~ ~ ~n in-
TIUS ts ~ t0t~k of 24~ cent.
I ~h~nk an ybod~ ~ho h~s ever had m
you simply t2~x ~me~hing out of exist- mizen Americ:u~ who choose t~
rel~ive, ~ ftlend, or ~r~ acquafntance
erm-e. I~ ~e w~ to g~ to prob/~d~ox*. ~oKe~ bu~ ~o ~ eeonomJ~ ~e/fs2E-
or h~ seer) ~.~y~ody WhO s~ffer~ froiA
perhaps we m/gi%t ~r~ a eo~itution~/ of nearly 700.000 families whe ~ d~-
emD~ysen1~ which ~o me ~ one of the
~mendment sa we did wi~ drinking rt~ly en~e~ tn ~rodueing tobacm)~
rnos~z~ghtenin~aHment~.I h~ve se~n,
some deles o.go. and Io}iow tha~ the ~75,000 ~"ail~ larrn~ tha~ deDen~
or who ~ ~een I~v~c~ one& s~ff~l~
rc~e. ~). i ~ troubled wher~ }~ L~ art tobs~co for tbelr i~elihoo4s, an~f
f~o~t c~'~c~rof the lu~l~s, cancer of the
admitted by ~hose ~u~por~n~ t/le ~r ~he ~,00~. wcrke~ who earn ~heir
chest, the hear~ ailments that ~e 9x-
~b~h~D~.~Do~eofiL~(~btm~mbou~ livingm~nuf~eturin~tob~'co_ so~4ated~th~ok~ wiHres/~zat.ha~
tha pro~ubi~ior* oi tcb~cc~ ~mo~ng. I In we~=~ing a~ oi these factor~ I ~e ought ~o see~. tr~ ~d
rapI~mz ~m
W0~d prefe~ g':eater in~ellec~u~/ hen- ~ ~ s~t'~ ~he T~b~..~co k~'~.~:am ~rnendme~t~
esty ~ v#hieh we simply set out by i~ the mo~. im~or~sn~ ccnsidera~n. I~ i~ not ~c[zr~ to
s~Ive ~he problem
some s~hem~, legis]~.~Te Or coD~$it~- Th~ l~=~e ¢onts/n~d it* ~h!s b~Idget, eom~) et~ly bu~ i~ ~d
hel;) I I/~ 5~..
tion~l ~m~ndmemL an~ Drob/hi~ tl%e reconciliation pham is ~he resul~ Of a c~lle~gu~tm s~t)Dorz th~s
~ma~idment•
smoking of ~obacco. I d~ n~t suppose ye~'s won~. kf~ny long mee~s be- ~r. PAC~TW-OOIX i ~d i rnlnu~e
an.vone v~uld s~gporT. ~h~ But~ ~m tv,'een~rowe~i~.~(~ tob-~ totheSenazorfr~K~n~tnc~F"
5ZZ001375

October 22, 1,$$d CONGI~ESSIONAL RECORD -- SENATE S 137S7
The ~SIDL~G OP~IC~R. The Jng amendment, because It is not ger- The PRESIDI2TG O~x~EI. CER, The
,~.e~ator from Kel}r.ueky,
-'vlr. FORD. Mr. President, as
Ba~TiiJ~ said. there ~ s. sucker baits
every I!~iIlt/t~, He forgot to tell us
~bout the people who were looking for
him.
The t ob~¢co companies a~ not going
to reduce their ~bi/]ty to earn i~¢ome,
What. they w111 d0 is buy cheaper to-
bacco, foreign tobacco, imported to-
bacco.
This tax is a question of saying to so-
ciety th~.t we are going to pu~ you in
the social beh~.vlor are~. we v;an~ you
in by t~xing you trod by pa.~mg a l~w
here In the great deliber~tive body of
the U.S. Senate. Tha~ in my o~tnion,
is wrong. Thr~ is a/l this tax is abouL
trying to force smokers Jn~o a particu-
l~$r See]ill environ~tent, or sacra[ he-hay-
for by this ~ay,
It is wl-ong. They will fred a wa7 to
get around it. They Wdl bring ¢2a im-
p(~rts from i~oreigoI~ coui2£ri~$ t~at v.q}I
h~ve pesticides and chemicals that. we
do riot W~Lrlr~ ~ ~grlcoLlrage ]T~y col*
leagues to vote agains~ this ~Lmend.
The P~ESIDING OE~[CER. Who
yields %ime?
tvlr. PACKWOOD. How much time
remains. Mr. President?
The PRESIDING OF~:qCER. The
~ena~or from Oregon ha~ iI too-rotes
~nd I0 seconds. The Seas:or from
~hede Island ha~ 29 minutes and 45
seconds.
~Ir, Cf~LA2'EE; I suggest the absence
of a quommn and ask that It be
charged e ~.~ally to h~h sides.
The P~ZSIDINO OEICER. With-
OUt objection, it [s SO ordered. The
clerk wifl call the tell.
The le~/~.tive assi~tan.t proceeded
~O ~.II ~iae rO]L
Mr. DO:vIENICL M/r. l~restdent, I
a~k unanimous con~ent that. eke order
for the quorom call be r e sore.deal.
The PRESIDING OFI=XC~R. WKh-
o~ ob~e~ion, it is so ordered.
M~r. DO~tEhqCL Mx. President, I
ask the dLst~ngUi~hed ¢tmin~a~ of the
F~na~ce Committee if he will :4old
bae~ the remainder of his lime,
t~%r. I=AC~'AVOOD. M2. Fresident, I
am happy to yield ba~k the remainder
of my time to the chairman of ~he
Budge~ committee.
M~. DOMbqCI. Mr. President. how
r~HCh ~Ji~e reIT~!n8 ]iI~der the conbl-ol
el the Senator from New A~exico Stud
how much under the control of the
Senator from ~Rhode Island?
The pRESIDI210 OFPICEI~.
%'%ven~y-slx minutes, fifty-five sec~nd~
re~aL~ ~der Lhe conI2ol o~ t~l@ Seas.-
tot from ~hode L~lan~: 5 minu£es
under the control of the Sen~.tor Irom
."low Mexico,
lit. DOMENICL I am prepared to
yield back the remainder of my time if
the d~stin~n~hed Sen~.r~r fr¢~m ~.h~e
IM~nd is.
Mr, CH:L~E~. 51r. ~residen~, I yie!d
back the remmnder of my time.
Mr. DOId~I~qCL Mr. i~resident. I
make a ~olnt of order that ~he ~end-
ger~n~ness.
Mr. DO.~¢~ICL Mr. President, I
woUld like to table the motlon ZO w~Ive
the g~rlTlallene.~ reftuiremen~, SO
would be pleased to yield back my
tlme.
Mr. CH~. I ask for the yea~ ~.nd
nays, M2. President.
The PRESIDLNG Ol;F'xc:~. Is
there a ~ufficient second on the
mOtOr1 to W~iVe?
There ~s a sufficient second.
The y~,~ ~nd nays Wel'@ ordered.
Mr* DOIvL~TICL ~r. PresidenL
there Is a motion--
Mr. CI~. ~. President, nexL
t!:e Senator from New ~eNico i~ go iI~. g
tO mOVe tO table my motioi$. Thee iS
satisfactory With me. I m ~repared m
yield back my time if he i~ on th~s
de~at~ on gerr~l~neness.
The PRESIDING OFFICEI~. I~ all
time yielded back?
Ms'. DOM~.NICL ,%,It. President, I
Nteld back the remainder of m;' time.
Mr. Clq~. I yield back the re-
m~inde~ of ~y raffle,
The PRESIDING ONCER* .~II
time has been ~ielded b~ci~ on the
nlot[on to % ~ive.
Mr, DO~MENqCL I s.~k for the yeas
a21d Fi~',,S on l~y 1T~o~i0n to l@.y o11 the
fable tile r~o~io~ to v.'a[ve section
305(b)(2) of the Budge~ Act.
The PI~ESIDINC- ON~C~R, Is
there a sufficient second? There is a
sufficient second,
The ye~ and nay9 were ordered.
~r, C!L~EF~ Mr. President, before
we go to the vote, I think if t~e ChMr
could p~i~f. Ol/t Wtlat Vote does what.
on this motion to ruble. The motion to
waive the Budget Act is • vote no on
the motion to table. ~m I correct?
The P~ESlDr~ OFFICEI~.. The
pending question t~ the motion of the
Senator from New Mexico to table the
motion Of ~h.e Sem%tor from Rhode
Island to waive tile Budget Act re-
quirement,
Mr. CHA/~CE. So those in facor Of
+,he increm:e in the cigarette tax will
vote no on the motion to table*
The PRESIDING OFPICER. The
Chair is exceeding i)~ prerogative in
respor~dlng to the question of the Sen-
ator from Nhode ~lzma.
mane to the reecneiilz:ion bill, as pr0- qllestien is on ~greeing to Lhe moLio~
:idcd in section 305(b)(21 ef ~he Con- of ~P.e U2enator **ram New .%~exieo
r-o
~'e~si~n~l ~udget Act of 1984, is out of lable the mo~lon of the Senator frc:n
order. I%hode Island. The y~ znd nays have
~!r. CEL~ .'dJ. Preside~L pLUSU- been ordered. The c£erk ~L1 call tP.e
~.n~ to section 904thl of the ~udget roll
A~t, I move t~ w~iv¢ the germaneneta The le~slative clerk called the r0I!.
requirement contained l~t Section ~r. ~I~IPSO.~q. I a2"a%oul!ee th~.t
th~
305(b) of that a~2t for the eonslder- Senator fr~ra ~%Ii~.~uri [.NIL D~.~-
ation of mF pending amendment. ~] and ~he ~enator from M~r~'.
The PRESIDING O~CEI~. Under land [tIr..N~a~H~$] are nece~ar~y
the Budge~ Ac&, there is i hour ef absent.
debate every divided on the motion. Me. CRA.X/STON. I am~0u~e that
Mr. DOM~ICL ~Ir. l=Tesident., if the Senator from MJssauri [Mr. gaOLS-
the Senator is prelim-red to ylaid back
hL~ time, I am p~epazed to yi.ld~ bach ~0N] and the Senator from I~awail
• [Mr. l.~ouvE] are necessan!y absent.
i~/ne,
~,ir. C~A~E. I would llke to have a The P~.ESIDING OF~P!C~, Are
roEcall vote on my motion to waive there any other Senators in the cham-
ber d~iring to vote?
The iesuI~ wa.~ ~noumced--ye~ 66,
nays 30, a~ loll~w~:
[Rollc~l Vote NO. 240 Leg.]
~n.AS--6S
Aba.*¢ G~re
MClCh~."
Andre~ Or ~.~r~
M~tze~aum
.~roa~ Gra~le~
MurK~w~i
Biden Har~/n
Nick~
Boron 1~ar~
Nu~m
Burape~ ~s.v,,xm~
packwoed
B~d He~hl
Pre~!er
Cn~les Hefi:n
Pryot
CCC*~a Hem~
Quayle
D'~az~ ~leEin~
RucLn:~.n
De.;on Joh:~n
S~c p~on
Dole K~rr7
~ma~
D~rnemct I~x~It
Thunr.oa~
EXert Ma~t [~y
War~er
~,~r~ McCIUre
W~i~en
Gv,~{er MCCO~CU
Zor W~k~
NAYS30
B~n,~e~
Go,to. pert
Bm~m~
~awh prox~i:i-
i~a~iiwi~z
p~a~ f~e!d ~ec~e~e~ler
Br~,.d~eF
K~nned~ Roth
B~Ie~C~
I~ule~be~ Sarbanes
Ch~ce
Loony S~acm
CohcI~
Le~q ~t~c~er
E~ar~ Lug~ .
SI~!ord
O~-n MR¢~ell
Wc~ker
NCYr %r0TL'~G--~
Inaave
51azhi~
So the rao~ion to lay on the table
Wa~ agreed to.
_%It. PACII%VOOD. Mr. President, I
!I~ove 50 ~o~ider tile vote by w~ie~
~.he IZlOtion [O ]~y on the t~bIe %%-o~
agreed Io.
.~Ir, DOMENICI. Mr. President I
move to lay that motion on the table.
The iIio~foll tO l~y all the ttlhle wg~
~greed to,
The PRESIDING OFFICE*R,. The
Chair will now rute on ~he point Of
ordeF. The aI~e~d*~, eat of the Senator
from Rhode I~iand intteduces a n,ew
sHb!~ et Y~1~t I eF not c'drre!
s 137s8
' CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- SENATE October
~2, 1985
leader, we wUl try to accoffL~odate
that. l can a~z~ur e hLm tonight we have
the ~Atatlon of sever'a[ other func-
tior~ and V, qll l]ot Likely press for fur-
ther roIlcall votes this evening and I
will get back to the dlsgLng~alshed
Democratic leader and see ~i we
c,%nn o~ a~C0l'lil~ 0d at e hiI~a.
~,~r.. BYRD. I thank the distin-
guished majority whip.
~. MITCHELL Mr. President, v#ll
the Senator yleld?
M2. DOMENICL I am ple~ed to
yield.
~v. MITGIaJ~.LL. Did I unde~tand
the assistant leader just to ~tate that
there would not be a vote? It is my in-
tention to proceed Wi~h my amend-
k~en$ ~ We ¢ilsc~sed ~IId t,o h~ve
vote on it,
Mr. DOME~qCI. I did not under-
staxXd ~he dl~tlngumhed majority whip
to say there would be no further votes
tlds evening.
IZ%'. SII~S ON. D~d I not s~y that?
Mr. DOhLENICL It is our intention
to try to dispose of the Senator's
amendment tonight: I cannot say
whether tha~ w]U require one vote or
~wo, or whatever it vAll be, but that is
our Intentlom
~¢Lr, M~TCIJ2~LI~ I thank the Sena-
tor. I wanted to make sure.
Mr. DOMENICI. While there ~Je
Senators l~resen~ on the floor, might I
J~t make thi~ armouncement2 We now
know ~f three amendments tlmt Sena-
tors l~ave told us they have. We are
going to try to rotate back and forth
between ~he two sides a~ we have in
the ~g,
It Senato.~ have amendmen~ that
they are aware of--there are al£o seri-
ot'~ germaneness issues on a ~ill liRe
t 'b2s~I ~uld be plowed ~o ~tart
making a llst and do my best to accom-
modate Senators, but at this moment
only know of three. L[ Senators could
start get,Ins ~hem here we might be
abl~ ~;0 ~o~odate them even Rs to
time.
Wi~ti ~ImL I am prepared to yield
the floor if the ~enator from Maine is
prepared to offer hL~ amendment.
1M2. ~41ITC~'~T,T, I than~ the Sena-
tor,
~MILN~M~ NO. 8~0
ll~u~u~e: To delay medicar~ coverage of
current St&to an~i local employees, an6 to
fIl~Tea~e the cig~2e~ t~x by 4 ~IIL~ for 3
yea~s.l
Senator from Memo. Senztor ~I~CH-
• ELL. h~s all ~mendmen~ Lnvoh'in~ c~g2..
retie taxes and ~m.other subjec~ all in
one ~aendmenL It will be our inten-
tion ~o take that up at.this point.
I Understand the Senazor will be
willing to take los3 than a full hour. I2.
d:at correct?
Mr. MtTCH77,L The Senator is eoc-
_ r~t.
Mr. D OIVfENI CI. We l~rObahly WOU/d
be W~llll!g to eolxie to a t i2Ile agreement
on that.
The distinguished majority Ieader
Lndicated that after the vote on that
amenchl~ent, whatever th~ vote. we
Would not have any further votes ~his
evening.
~o it x%'ouid be our intention to pro-
ceed ~ith the Mitchell ~ale~dmei%~ &t
chls time.
Mr. BYI~D. ~Ir, Presklent. v.'i]l the
distinguL~hed ~en~tor who is chairman
of the comma/U, ee yield to me for an.
other question?
s',ir. DOMENICI. Indeed I 5'ie!d.
Mr. BYRIg. :V£r. PresidenL Lg the dis-
tingalished msmager of the resolutiola
in a position to tell the Senate at thk~
~iiT.e when w~ ~ll beg4J1 our study on
the matter tomorrow?
Mr. DOMENICL I ~an sorry, I say to
the distingUiShed minority leader.
Someone was hsndling me e. note
about the pending amendment and I
did not hear the e~tire question.
Would he mind repea~.g it. please?
Mr. BYI~D. Ye~. I shnDly asked
when the Set%ate would be expected to
re~ume consideration of the reconcl/i~-
t~Ol] rll~ Rsur e t orft o r/-ow,
Mr. DOI~ENICI. I have not ssked
the d~tingul~lled malority leader. Per-
haps the majority whip knows. I think
we have an intervening appropriation
bill in the morning. But I am unin-
formed beyond that.
Mr. SIIMPSON. Mr. President. en
behsM 0£ the leader.¸ ~th whom I
have no~ conversed [ii recellt mo meilt~.
I v¢oU/d ~a~ l~ is the inrmnt ~o go for-
wartl 3.~ ~n early hour ~tld to proceed
this week at 8 area. or 8:30 ~m. w~th
our Senate opening and continue to
pr~e~$ this me~stl2e ail~t ~21other ,%ID-
propi~tlon i~!ea~tlre.
I caD~ot b~ ~t~ore ~peci/'~c other thllJ1
to ~ay that there will be rellcall vote&
likeIy in the morning hours ~d con-
tinual opening of ~he Senate at 8 atom
or 8;30 am. in as1 elfort. ~0 process th~
busine&s at hand. Sdd-. ~CHFLL M.r. President, I
.~r. BX'~D. I~. President, I Would send an amen4maent to the desk and
hope that the Sen~.te would no~ return ask for ira immed~at e eo m~iderz~Io~x
The I~RESIDING OFFICER. The
tanend~n en~ ~ be stated.
The ~istant legislative elerR reRd
as followS:.
The Senator from Maine ~tr. Mr~zl
SIt,ON pr~posea an tmaend/nen~ nu~m~l~d
840.
~k unaniraou~ cor~ent, that, r eadLng of
the araendment be di~permed wltiL
The PI~E~IDINCr OFFICER. With*
out objection, i~ is so ordered,
The anaen6ment ~ as follows:
to the reconefllation measure so e~rly
tomorrow, may I suggest to the dlstin-
g~ished majority wlalp, The a~end-
~uICe i~ rlO$ ~00 gO~d SO e~x]y 8/Id yet
the time wmfld run whether or not the
art endaiace is good-
I would hope that we would not
resume consideration of the reconcilia-
tion measure before ii s-re. ff ~he dis-
tingn~mhed mg~]ori~y whi~ lknd the dis-
fine--dished majotigy leader wou!d
kindly agree,
Mr. SLMPSON. Mr. President, I say
to the distin~ished Democratic
Begir~nkng on page 421. litae 8, stroke Out
through ~age 422. hne 21. and in~gr t in lieu
thereo{ ~he [ollowing:
al~e~dsn~rlt$ rA~xle b~ ~tlb~tfon (~x) sh¢.]l
apply to s~qce ~erf¢)~ed b~. six llldivIdu~
on or alley his ~p~l~Able ~ffe~tlve date
determined under paxagr~ll h (3).
(A} IN ~--The ~gt~ndment~ 122~fle
~y subsection (b) are efI~iv~ With re$1~t
t9 ~m. ald~ {dLLul or~ and a~ter his a~Dl~cable
graph (3). ~nd thl! mmen¢[ments mad~ by
paragraph (2) of ~hat su~¢¢tion ~l~pLv to
ser%.ice perfoi'T~o:l by ~1~ iI~dividtlsl 012 or
after his appHcabIe effective date.
l~r Dllr~$es of eSt~b!L~hh2g en%itler~en~ ~0
hospital incur ance bone flL~ under par~ A of
ti~!e ~--~qII of the Social ~eeurit y .a2ct pur~a-
ant to the mmen~ent~ mad~ by subsection
(b) or the glr~vi~ioim of ~t21o~tiofl (d), On
the b~i~ of medicare quaJafied ~t~te ~nd
ioea~ @Iaplo:*T~er~t, r~o indawldu~A may be con-
sidered t~ be trader ~ d~bllit7 for a~y
perfod before bA~ ~ppiie able effective date.
(3) AI'I'LICA~nI~ ~F~gS"Xa~ ~A~--An Indl-
~ndua]'s aplJlicabIe effective d~te is~
(A) Cotober 1, I98~, in the ~ of an L~di-
~iclu~l Who L~ not an employee of z ~tale or
politie~l ~ubdivi~ion (or ha.strumentallty
which is Wh01B' Owned thereby) on Septem.
bet 30. 1986: anti
(B) October ~, 1987, in the ca~e of an indi-
vidl2 ~] who L~ SUCh a~a eL2. ployee on Septerla-
~er 20. 19B~i.
(1} IN G~WmL~L- FOr purp~$e~ of zectiot~
226. 2262~ 0rod 1811 of the ~o¢i~ Security
ACL in the c~e of an~ individual who--
(AI perforn~ ~'ice dtLr lng tb~ C~ob~r in
wP~ch h;~ ~l~[i~ble effeetivs da~e occ~ o
which co~titute~ naedleare qual~ied ~tate
and iocal g0vernl~ntal ~mp]oyment (~ de-
flzled ha se~tioEt 210tp)(1) of sl~eh Ac~); al~d
(B) ~erforraed se~wlee price t~ his applies-
hle effective da~e, whirl3 ~/otdd ~P~II[IZa
12~edleal-~ ttua][ffed ~tfft~e slid logal goverT~.
Inent-~l employment if performed ~!t~r bL~
~Dll~ble eHe¢~il'e date. *
~uch [nd2vid u al'~ Stat~ and local gover~men-
t2A empl~ymenz perffonmed ~for¢ h~ aDp~l
cable ef fe~:tiv~ date shall l~e e~lx~idel'~d to I~e
"e~nplo~ent" (~ defined lot pu~t~es o~*
tltle 12 of such Act), but only for th~ pt~.
pose of Drovidfng the hadi~dual (or another
p~i~oil) ~with eaxtitlem~sl~ Io hO~Dit~l ha~L~-
a~ce beneli~ reader p~.r~ A of title XVXII of
Z4¢h ALL
On page 372, ~tnke out Iin~ S through 10
told mserg in lieu thereof the following:
Is) R~'~ OF TaX*~ub~eetion (b) of sec.
tJon 57111 of the Internal ReYenue Code of
1954 ( reL~tAng to rate Of t~.x ~ cigazett ~) ill
am~nded--
(1) b~, ~t41klng out ,,$8 ~er tl~tmand" in
p~R (i) ~nd il~erting in lieu thereof
"$1G per thousarld ($8 per thotmand sifter
October 14, I988)"; Snd
(2) by s~qleA~g ot~ ,,$~.80 per thousand"
in ~ph (2) ~d inset ring in IleU ~her~-
tlf *'~21.00 De]" ?,hoU&gffid t$1~.80 ~el- thou.
sand after October 14, ~988)'*.
(b) FLOOR ~TO~m~.--
(~) I~$~2ION O~ TA:a.~n Cig~r~t~
manufaeture~ m or ~mpori~ into the
Ui~ted States which mee x£mo~ed before No-
vember 15. 1985. and held on such date ~or
~e by a~ly per~o~t. ~her~ shall be napped
weighing not roor~ ~h04a 3 pot~lar~ I~er thoU.
mind* $2 per t hotmano2.

Oetober :~2, ~.9S$ , CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--SENATE S 13~9
{B) LA~ c~'t~¢'~'~.--O~ ¢:gsrett~s, [0¢~ e~Ipl.~ses but ,~,OL~I~, delay Love]"- recen~ ~'e~IFs v:i]]
~Ul~i next y~,I- !11~o ~.
~* eighi~ r~ore lh~u 3 ~oun~ per thou~*nd,
$4 Z0 ~e¢ t~o~:~nd; except th~L LI mor~
~h~ 6!~ incil~ m len.ozh, lhey sh~ be ~m~.-
able ~*, ~e ~e ~tts~bed *cot cig~2~tes
~ =-i~hinZ n~t n~ore thi~ 3 ponds ~r thou-
sa~d, eot~llin~ ~ ."% ~.~he~, qr f~'~ion
thereof, of the [ensth of each ~ one m~-
retie,
(2) L/ABI'.ZZ~£ FOR T~ ~ M~/~0 D OF pAy-
any ~ax imposed by D~/a~ph I~.) ~!~!le~
shall be l!ab]e for such ~x,
p0F.ed by p~g~D~ el} shall be tr~ted as
n~l Re%elzue COde of 1954 ~/~d ~ be d~/e
~d ~ayable oF* :3~enaber 2, 19~5. ~ the
~amo ~a~nner ~ ~he [~ Jmpo$~'d under ~uc~
.<ection m pay~b~ ~Ith ~'~ D¢C~ ~o cl~rett ~
removed on November l~, 19~5.
(3) CIGaF,~w~--For p~o~e$ of ~*~ $~b-
~ectio~, th~ teF~ "¢igar~te" ~huli hav~ the
me~ing ~i~en ~.o s~¢h ~e~ by ~$~tion
Ib] of s~icn 5702 of the Inter~l¸ ~e~,enue
COde ol 19~-~.
hn~&ed ~E p~xag'z~p h ll) sha~l ~o~ a~Dly
cig~st~ ~,~ r~t~ ~toc~ held on November
I~. 1989, a~ Lhe p~ace where if:tended to
sold a~ ret~l.
IC) E~ZVZ D~
ci~rc~e~ =emoved ~f~r October ~4. 1985.
"(2) CONFOR~II~G ~ME=;DM~T,~C~iOn
ICl OI sect/on 253 o[ lhe T~-~ ~ui~* ~ud
Fi~ca: ~..,~ on~ibiL'~" ACL ol I$8~ is a~ended
by ~trt~ing out "~*d before ~ovember 15,
198S-,.
blr. DO~NICI. Mr. President.
mlg!1~ I a~k ~he dLstLng'aisi~.cd Senator
from Maine, is he prei~ed to shorten
She I hoar ~ha~ IS a/lowed for hLni? %re
are preps.red to shorten our i houz in
opposition withou~ wais'ing ~ermane-
II¢S$,
Mr. NIITCH~7,T, I ~ prepped ~o
do ~h~L
Mr. DO~IENICL ~i~. President, i
~k unanimoUS cc~en~ tb.a~ there be l
hour equally divided be~.ween Ihe d~-
tin~ish~d Senator from ~Iaine and
~he ~eIl~.~or from ~NISW }/~exieo i~ ODDO-
sition Ihereto and I do L!la~ w~;zhout
w~Iving {he germa.nene.~ defenses
tha~ might be applisabIe to ~he penal-
The ~ESIqD11~O OI~FIrCE:~. I~r.
PPzss~a). Without objection, i~ i~ SO
ordered.
~Ir. DO~ICL _~r PresidenL I
v ~ d_ he time in o!~p 0simian to ~he dis-
tingtlished chairman of the ~-~ance
Con~ni~ee ~-here jurlsdisdon of this
m~.tter lies.
The pRESIDrNG OF!~IC~]~. The
Senator from M ~L~ e.
~. MITCIZfELL. ~Ir. President, this
araendrnenz would delay for 1 year the
implementation of mandatory Medi-
e~.re coverage for S~te an~ local gev-
Under the bill ~ reported by the Fi-
nance Comm*ittee. ~l Sta£es and !oc~.l
~overnment emp]oyees ~'fil ~e manda*
ori]y covered under the Medicare Pro-
g~-am ~s of Sep~embe r 30, 1986.
My ~n~endme~ '~'o~Id leave th~
date untouched a~ re new State and
a~e for 1 year u~n~Ji Sep[embcr 30,
1987,'Ior current State gove.'~rnent
and l~ai government empioyees. This
delay wou]d ~ive each ol the ~ta~es
a~d ~lle m~'~iclpaliises throughout the
¢OU~.'~ al3 additional year to ra~e the
i~vel!ues n~ces~'y to f~12/Ic~ the e~-
ployel~ ~orti0~ Of the ~,Iedic~re ia.x.
I ~m d~eplF ¢o~¢er~ed ~bou~ ~he
ne~a~ive impact this Drovfsi~n will
h~.ve On ~t~*te gove]l]~aent$ and or*
Ioc~] govevf~.ents aczoss the ~'~.tion.
.~-s to ~t~te ~overi~ent eml~loyees,
the most severe effec~ wLll be fe_~t in
seven States which hmve Independent
Sta~e reti~emen~ system~ and, ~here-
~or~, ~l~.vo oi3e or ~ t~lt~ ~ & V~ry lew o~
their ~y~l~*loye~$ Cover~ ~3~der the
S~c!al ~ecur~ty Proem but ~ to mu-
niciDa]iti~--and ~enatoz~ should be
aware of this--this "~ill h~.ve an ad-
%'a~e effect in ever'.," State in the
lYnion, ~very ~ingle State.
Let me deal fiz~ ~-nd briefly with
St~.te gover~nent employc~. T71ere
Colorado, Louisi~a, iv~aL~e. ~Ia~ao
chus¢~, Nevada, and Ohio-which
hav~ indeDenden~ S~ate ~tirement
few o{ their erf~l~]{)yees ~@ ~over~d
under Social ~ecurity, The co~ ~o Dro-
~q'd~ng l~gdic~re coverage to ~t~te em-
p]oFees will be an ~ddeci burden on
~o~e ~.~s ~,t a time w~e.'3 ~hey ~nd
o[her .State ffo~e..~.~.~ents ~e attemp~-
inff ~o deal w~h cutbacks in Federal
f undin~ in a variety of i~re gi~z~s.
In my o~1 ~tzto of Maine, a l~.~al
Sta~e ~th ~ p~pula~ion of ~nIy I mil-
lion DeeDle. mandatory Medicare cov-
e~ge for Sta~e gov~en~ employees
will add, Lr~ State gcwernmemt ex-
penses. $~ million a Eear. The State
will be forced ~o reduce cmt{c~ on~o-
il3g DrogT~rm$ or enatl~ h]~heF t~¢e~
And ~ha~ ~ll be true in each of ~he
seven ~tates that I h~ve mentioned.
Ohio, for ex~ple, one of the other
Slates, will be forced ~o r~e $45 mil-
lioD a year to ~over ~he ~e~Jc~,l'e em-
ployer portion of the tax on State emo
pIoyea%
But while the pro~on ~J]I affect
State ~over~ment and state emp]oy-
ee$ in only' seven St~.tes, the D~ovision
~U have ~ ~dverse effect on mu~ici-
p~it[es in every single ~tat e. The cGs~
of this for 1 Fear is $2.2 billion. ~nd so
Wl~a~ we are saying ~o the municipali-
ties of this country k~ ~ha~ we, the
Con~t~, a~e eompellin~ them to raise
their local t~-xes by $2.2 bfl~fon a year
a~d ~e are ~0mpe ]2g them to do i~
irmmed!ately at the end of ~bis fiscal
~is burden, which is to pay for the
employer'~ sh~re of the ~cdi~re ~x.
~ill fall upon mumcipaiitte~ in ~hi~
country a~ the ~r~e time ~h~t ~hey
face the loss of $4.S billlon in ~ener~t
r~iv~g. L~C~.I gov~rn~nt~ ~.czx)~s
~h]S countrF have been hit hard over
the l~t 5 ye~l~ ~ • result of those
Federal bud~e~ ~u~s which we all know
neees~arF. Bu~ £hzt ~au~t of
tidal wave and make £he job of S~a£e
rand local ~. o,,,ert-~ ents extremely, dlffJ-
~Ult. if not im~ible.
In essence, we at ~he Feder~/ le~'el
• re tranaferrh~g th~ m0~t diiflcult
f~c~l DO~CF d~cisions to tl%.o.~e a~ ~he
l~ca/~ev el. We ~re cut t/~g bac1= a varl-
e~y Of pr0gTg~ns, ~e are elln~i'~.~i~
revoP.ue sl%@.r~%g, ~A1d thel~, a~ the
inere~.~e hl th~ cost. Of loCa/ govern-
me~nL~ to the tu~,e of $~.~ billion a
yes/'.
The n~ ef~e¢~ on ]oc~l govetTl-
ments--I ILrai£ thi~ now to local gov-
e~.ents--~h~ ~ ~d~'erse e~fect in I
year is $6,~ bfi/!on. Tha~ ~ ~he ~oun~
of revenue ;hat 1oo8/ g~v~rI~nen[s will
IQse t~oug~ ~h~ tsrmin~,tlorl of reve-
nue sh~ring, $4.S billion, p}us the new
added co~s, ~mposed on them in the
forra ~f the employer's portion1 of the
l~ed~care tax, $2,2 billion.¸
Th.i~ is occuring a~ ~ time when the
adr~inis~r~ti0n is pro1~o$inff to repeal
the local ~ro~erty tax deduction and
while the_ l~ederal C, oven-d*nent re-
par~/3"zed over dec~ion~ as to
whether {)r P~o~ ~o r~ise reventle. I~
this bill p~es as re~¢r~ed by the Fi-
n~Tic~ Co~ee, al]E10Gt every t~ty
S.nd ~0WD. tn A~.'neric~ ~J/ be forced to
inorea.~e its proDe~y tax ~o r~ ~he
~dditional revenues zequis~d by the
bill
~s a m~tt el" oft~x equity. I belieee it
un/~ir t~ malldate z~ increase in the
nL~es, the prol~rl,y t.%x. ~ @. m@.te_er o~[
po]/oF, it ~ incon~LstenL to.say the
least, for Federal o~ficials ~o en==age Ln
th~ rhetoric we hear daily in this COn-
~re$~, abou~ no~ r~isi~ F~dersl {axes
while we, ~ ~he ~az~e tL~ne, take an
action whl~h compels ms.nF muniei~
p ~/ities in ~emca to raise their ~axes.
Ineonsistant ~ the klnde~ way to de-
~c~be ~h~ ~cz~on,
M~; ~nendment will do one thtnz
and one ~mpl~ thing o~i.v. It ~nll
del~F for i year the nm~dator~ CO-
ver~e of c~n-ent Stare and Iota/ gov-
give Ssates and th(]se mll~c~aii~ies
that i yesr to prepare fcr and ~o ira*
plemenL t/~e tax i~cre~zes t~at, ~dl be
rlec.es~amy ~t the lees/ ~e%'el to mee~
thu~ added b 'u2den. It is Lncredible t,hat
$2.2 bfl/~on a year on rnumc~pallti~s in
Amemc~. a~ ex~ct/y the same tL'ne that
we e~l~A//1~.~e golio~[ rev~ue Shsrln~
which reduces their revenues by S4.S
billion we ~.ve them no ~ime ~o plan
for i]~, no tilile to ~eG~odat a ~or this
added burden. And ~e 8(re them no
time ~o ir, cresse £1~e taxes ~ha~ will be
ii ~£~ary to h~e~ this burden,
The I year delay in ~V£ed[eare cover*
~@'e for eurfeflt ~t~te and local gover~1-
me.lt ~mpl0ye~ will result, as I n0~_cd
~r]I~1., [11 s. l~J~ Of ~ro~ected ~eve~'l~le
of ~2.2 bilIi()n, spread over 3 Fears as
the budget re¢oncdia~,ion ~i]l contem
plstes.
5 200137

~'as ~ 8 cerlts for the 32-year period
from 1951 to 1983, For 32'ye~r~. th~
t~.x w~ not i~cre~ed~ It ~-~ h!ere~ed
in the Tax E~ui~y and Fin~.r~¢ial P.e,
s~on31bili~" A¢~ of 1982. I¢ took effect
in I~8~ to go from 8 cents to 16 cents,
Tha~ tm~ w~ scheduled to¸ ex~ire--
tha~ L% to return to the 8-cen~ le~'el~
~n October ~, I~85, D~ in recent le~s.
la~ion was extended on ~ iDteriL'1
basis until November 15. The provmio~l
in S. 1730, a~ approved by [h~ Finance
Co~ic!~, w-o~d Fepea~ t~e sl~l~e~
date thereby establishing the t~,¢ at
the 16-ee~t I~%.ei On a perr~anerlt basis,
a~d ~ repea~ now, Wo~]d DyO%'jde ~'0r
4-JeIlt i~cre~e if* ~he Federal e:~cL~>~
{~.x on ctgare~,!es fOP a ~-ye;ly period,
fronl November 15+ 19~5, to Nove.'nbcr
15, 19S8. I~- obJ ectlve and purpose £s to
raise suffici~nt revenues to offset the
lOSs that ~.'o111d necur from the l-year
S i.6790 " ' CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--SENATE October2~ 19S3
I hnow We are ~ll conceded ~bou~ b~tep the cigarette tax inere~L~e, to
than if ~he doe~ not work at all. Now
the Federal budget defle!t, and ~o I not filibuster.
offer ~ par~ ~[ ~ht~ a:nendment a This i8 a diSferen~ a~ue The ssue
~eeotld l~roDosa£ which wou!d place ix% in%'olve~ whether or not the Stale em-
additionM ~-ccn~ t~.x on cl~ettes, ployees should pay taxes into the
thereby rais~g the clgmrette tax to 20 Medicare ~y~tem and that their em-
cenI~ a ~ac~. T~a~ ~'fl/ generate ap. pJoyei'--~e Smte o~" loe~ govern-
proximately $2.2 billion over the 3- ment~-should ~ay taxes inlo the Med-
year period al%d offse~ ~he reve.'It!eQ leave ~ystert~
lOS~ ~ a. res&ll~ Of the l-ye~x delay iv& And I emphasize Pay taxes int(~ it
mandatory Medicare coverage. Th@ rathe%" th2,n Ilshlg the word "l~Iedt-
tax on cigarettes in ra'~- ame,'ldmen% ls care" because what we have discovered
not ~ ~ermaaent rex. It is intended to ~s that most State and municipal era*
be temporary Ior the 3-year period ployees a~e covered bF i%Iedicare. They
oP2y so tha~ it will achieve the obj6~, are norma/ly the residuat beneflc]acy
tire of offsetting the $2.2 billion cost of ~omeone else in ~rivs.te ~mptoy-
of the l%'e~r ~eiaY in m~ndatory l~ed~ men~, and by virtue of ttla~, ~esidua/
~car? eo%'era~, ber~e~lsi9.I ~tei*est they are covered by
~V~ have already had extortive i%~edl~re. ExPiable: SailS' works for
debate oi% ~he DF0pOS~I to klcree~e tile the city O[ ~a~Igor i~. ~;er hitsbar~d.
cig~-I'etle ~ax 8 cents SO I Will be very Mike, works for Interaa~ion~J Pa;~er.
brief. The Senate should k~low tha~ He p~y~ Social See~rityl:axes, ~ntcrna-
the Federal excise tax on ~igarett~ tional Paper ~.'¢~ ~or ~oeial Security
Medicare taxes are ever ]0aid on S~lly,
ever. Mike becomes s@. sally becomes
65, nnd she is covered although the
t~xes W@Fe IleI'@~ ~2Ri~ ~0~" her.
Conh'a~t that situation slightIy.
MiMe %'orks for In~ern~H(~nal Paper in
• ~laLn@, ,Sally instead of working
for
~gangor, the ei~y O~ ~a.'~r. ~e~.
u-~rks
for L.L. Bean--24 hours a day. ~5
day~ ~ year. ~Ight? She works for L.L.
~eRn. NOW. w0rkh~g for L.L. B~an. she
L~ covered by MedJc~e and she pays
t~uxes. I-let ~Dloyer DRys taxes. B%It
she ge~ no greater benefits thRn she
gets by working for the city of Bangor
and having no taxes pald ~t all. She
~e~ exactly the ~me benetil~ wheth-
er abe work~ for L_L. Beam or the city
of Bangor. SO the question flrst be-
comes one of f~.[rne&% Sho~ ~;~ose
who are ~oing to benefit frpm the
Medicare ~yst~m p~.y something?
de~a~" iH r~lar~datory Med~cOA'~ ~Dverag~ ~'e i~d~ o[le exception 9~ ~. ]~a~ter
for current State ~nd l~.l govern, of ~ocial policy years ago. It L~ ~. good
excepti0~. We sald i~ OI%e Spouse
works
meIl~ erRploye~s.
I brge I~lemberS of the -~enate tO in the rn~rketpl~.ce fo~ mo~ey and
the
consider the umpact that this mand~, other spouse does not work m the
tory provision v.iI1 h~.l'e oD~ $tate ~u~ marketplace for n~oney, w@rks at~
espee!s/~y loc~l gover/u-nenL~ in your hom~ the entire tlm@. zleve~
Ireeeives
Sta~e~. I repeat, every sLngle SLate will any Wages--~lot fron~ the city of
be adversely affected a~ to the munici. Bangor. not from L.L. Beam--that
llon-
~galities in that State and will be inco~ne-eo.rn~ng spout@ is still
eo~ered
forced to fncre~e ttleir '.axes by $~--~ by bfedic~re. Tha~ is ~ matter Of
~ocla/
biLE0n a year to meat. th~ cost, at ex* policy. We thought ~hat was good
aetty the same time that they will be policy. But we did say. for those who
losing the $4~6 bilHon f:om revenue worked Ln the marketplace, even
tttou~l~ they are ~o~n@ ~o ~et the
sa2ne
bit. President, I urge the iMembe~ benefit~ tha~ the spouse who never
of the Sen~.~e to su;~port this a~nend- worl~ in the ms.rketDlaee gets. they
meat. are going to pay something into ~ledi-
The PRESIDING OFFICE2~. %%9~0 care. Thi~ is because we real~ze~ [u)ly
yleld~ time? ~ha~. if yo~ we:re goin~ ~o ex%end bfedi-
Mr, PAcK%rOOD. Mr.. President. care benefi~ to sp0t~se~ who don%
the arguments against thiS ~mend- earn wages, y~u were going to h~ve to
~e3%! 0by~oDs]~ are Dot those t}~.at, ~it S0~e Wflg~-esr~J~'spouseS'
~2~olley
%~,,er~ dsed D.~Di~S~ the ~rte~ler~ o[+ i/fro ~e syster~ tO ~t greg.~r
ex~eD$.
fered by the Senator f~om Rhode That is ~ soci~l triP.for policy.
Senator from 3~aine.
Isled. There an ag~"eement'had been Le~ me review this. Mike works, his
~,~r. :~qTC~ELL. I ~ield 5 minates to
ins.de between I.he Affrieult~/re Com~ wi£e ~loes not- work in the
marketpl~e the Sen~.tor from nHnois.
mi~tee or the Finance Committee, or a~ all, ~nd she is cov~cd. She is
coy- :~L~. 81MON. Mr. President, and mY
~.t least ~. m~,jonty of the membe~ of ered even though she never pays any
colle~g'tles, I ~rn ple~s.e(~ to rise in sup-
both. to s~.ue the (Dover1~x/!e~at money taxes, iViike wor}{s. ~a[ly ~orks for
L.L. por~ o~ the arn~lldr~.e~ Of the aerator
i/I ~e ~OD~CO prograr~ ill ex~h~llg~ BeBll. L.L. ~e~n. D~.:¢S t~x~s, ever~
from ~/~alne. ~.~[t/¢h of ~.-ha~ the disCus-
for Sen~tora. who other'~e would fill though Sally has no more benefRs
g,/lshed chairman of the Finance Corn- "
i~ add~S0~* We ciirr~r~tly say, OS a
raazter of sncia2 policy. ~aHy. you and
L.I~ BeRn are goLng to ~y t~xes into
the fund unless you work for the city
of Bangor or ~or the S~te of ~L~ine.
T~D yr)I~ are ~a~ ~oi~g ~o pay an~:
t ~-~ es L'Ito the f D/%d. That is ~Tong 0~ a
matter of social p01icy. I~ we ~re going
to s~y ~hat everyone who is emDtoyed
for money pay8 ~omething in~ t/le
Niedieare fund. even thOUgh they will •
get no ~reater benefits than if they
ne%'er worked to pay anything Lnto the
~und. ~hen everyone who works for
wRges ought to De7 S0m~t hinff ulto %he
fund. That's the first questi0n.
Se~ol%d ClU es~ior~-- ~ m~tter of tlr~ing.
The B~dge~ Cornnlit,t ~e Would h~.ve Ln-
e]t~de~i Ril et%r~ez1~ ~.-id .'low employees
under the Medicare System on JanU-
ary 1. ~986~nexG JanUary. 2!% months
fron% nOW. Th~ F~[na~ce Corn~litteo
thought that was too ~.pld. And ~he
Senator from I~laLne amd Others
ar~Qed'4{ery cogent!y ii~ the co--it tee
th~ it ~s.~ too rapid. SO ~e eha~ged
that da~e to October I. 19BB. a 9-
mont*h slip from what the ~ud.et
Committee had.
I thi1~K we h~2;e a fnlr compromise.
This r@concilit.tion bLll is going to be
pa~ed, and sent to the President I
wo~dd think in the nQx~ 2 week.% 3
weeks, h0Defully. That ~ves SLales
3rid Io~a[ ~overlIiTiel%~s ~ttrtple tir~e ~o
pick UD a Day,eat that we r0q1~ire Of
every Other ern]:)loyee a~d every o~her
e ~'~]DIo y ~r.
S0. ~DoJ"t from the nonwage-ea~ng
spouse WhO get~ ~ledieate benefits ~s a
m~.tter of s0elal po]icy even ~hough he
or site ~ys nothing fn~o the fund. we
say e~'ecyone else ~ho~Id ~y. ar.d Ch~t
includes m~m!ci~a[ employee~, c01untry
employees. State employees. &nd L.L.
Be~ elnl~lo yee~.
8o. ~ hope cery raueh t~at the
amendment of my good friend from
M~ine ~H be defeated. I think on
policy re~zoDs ~he el'a~loyees h~ve
fi~a]y been ~dded ~O the ~e~c~re
system. Second. I WOUld h~.te to JeoP-
ardize this Whole recon~iHat[on bill by
adding a prov~ion ~hst Would 10so rev-
enues •nd by adding ye~ a ~'a Jn an addi-
tion to ~h~ oig~A'e~te ~S2. ~0 pay for the
lost reve[P~es. We ~ hKve a ~O~g~
enough ~irne getiing this pa~ed and
no~ ha%~hng I~ vetoed with tl~e 16-cent
eig~arette t~. You add that. and I
think We bring the Whole reconcilia-
tion crashing do rcr~.
I llrge the defeat of this sxnendment.
The PRESIDI~O OI~ICEI~. Who
yietds %ime?
Mr. MITCI~ELL ad~e~secl the
Chain
The PRESlDI~O QFFIC~. Tile
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:~¢ as ~h~.r prme!p~l p~blic revenue vo;e for this all the time, and yet gram is basically funded by
~etive
sQuree, Ot1!er,yise. they ~re largely de-
pendent ell funds frown the Sta~e and
FederM gove~ment.
The dmtinguished Senator from
2,1~saehusetts jl~ spoke of how mu-
l~ciD~litie~ ~e dependeI~ upon prop-
erty taxe~ for their priricipal public
r evenlle sotwce.
BecRtt~e this ~/ledicare propos~ im-
paet~ znunicip~lJties ~n almost every
State, I urge mF coUeague~ to take a
moment ~md tPdnk about how they ~re
going to explain their vote on thls
a~r.en~ent to thef~ local policemen,
schooite~her~ ~d flreftgllterz. FOr
e:;~mple, most of us in th~ body a~ree
that OUr Nation's $chool~e~.ohel~ are
~Inderp~.icL ~nd we have said we wish
we could pay our chilclren's teachers
~ore. Eo~ever, if we do riot modify
the budget le~i~laLlon -now before u%
we will he taking" out an additional
1AS.percen~ bite ou~ of'the Daych~k~
of abou~ one~thLrd of these teache~
next fall.
the~e kinds of decisions are eon~Jnua/-
ly m~de [r~ the contex~ of th~ ~%/dget
reconciliaLiOn legislation.
Mr. President, I commend the distin-
guished Senator from .'~Iaine. lYIr.
i~crffTl, for offerin~ the pendLn~
~o SUl~por t it.. • .
The 2RESIDING OFFICER. Who
yields time?
. Mx. P&CLC%VOOD. Mr. Pre~£dent, I
}Sold 3 mJnu~es Lo the Senator Zrom
Kentucky.
l%f~'. FORD, l%fr. President, I s3~pao
thize ~th the distinguished Senator
frora Maine. the Senator from ~Imsza-
chu~etis, and the Sena~r from Ghio
that we c~zn h~ve problems. My ~.te
has problems, too.
I r~e ~ opp~sitlon to the ~m.end-
merit by my dis~in~ishetl cel!e~e
from Maine, Senator ~EdI'C~EL~ Let
me ~y f~om the 0nse~. that I Sl/pporz
what he is trying Lo do, I just do not
suppor~ the way he attempts to ~ay
8inc~ most State governments el- for it,
ready ~ar~icipata in Social Se~LU/tF, - I do not support. ~he provis[or~s of
the proposed l%fedJcare tax ~ only the reconcfllatioP, bill, as reported
really impact State em~loyee~ and from the Finance Commi~tee) which
~ate retlremer*t progrzr~is hl seven impos~ ~ new tax o11 ~tate Bnd local
States, my home State ~f Ohio being
one of those States. I have al~ys
~rglled tl~at those ~over~eIiL%
whether State or loe~, which took the
Initiative to $~ uD re~iremen~ be~lefit
Sy3tenls ~ good ~ or better than
Social Security should not be penal-
ized because they had the foresight
~nd leadership to establish these sys-
~er/ts.
When the Social ~ecuri'~y Act wa.~
paUSed in 19~5, ~ate and local workers
were excluded [r~m partieipa~Z in
Social Security because there were
e0n~titutional concerns about Federal
taxation of Lh~se governments. In
1951, they were a2dowed to Join Socml
~ccurit y on a veL~ary basis, bu~ only
if they did not benefit from any SLate
or local gover1~T~en~ re~ire~gnt pro.
Wcam. and if they were not police and
iireflghtew& It was only eventual/y
that we opened Social Security'8 doors
to almos~ any State and loca/ employ-
ee group ~ho wanted to Joln the Fed-
er~.l 8ysten~
Mr, President. I ~'n not happy With
the proposed Niedicar~ tax. I am no~
even p~ieularly Dle~ed With the ~r~
posed amendment. Quite sfmply, if it
is ~uceessfully adopted by the Senate,
it only works to me/co a bad situation a
little better and a bad budget plan a
little fairer.
In It~ original form, thls year'~ Fed-
eral deficit reduction pl~n included a
proposal ta mandaU~ Soeia/ ~ecurity
coverage of S~ate and ](~I employees
te~.che~, at the l-pe~en~ cor~tribution
rate, but retired members ai~o pay a
nor~i~a~ prer~ium for rh~ m~dical cov+
e.'~ge.
There ate c.Jxrently 44,000 a~tive
te~c~e~ supporting po~%~'etiremerkt
medi:~l coverage for 22,000 retired
teac[~erz a~d spo~es. It would be pu-
nitive, at boa1;, to add ~ adchtiop~.l
1.45 percent Medlcaze ~x on these
Dublie employees. For a Kentucky
teacher earning $20,000 a yesr, ~n.d
that l~ a high salary fcr a Ee.ntueky
teacher, the additional cost for future
.~f ed'care coverage would be $29o.
At a ~/rae wher~ We in Congre~ are
stri,,~ng ~0 en¢ou2~ge our young ~e~ple
to enter ~he teachl~g pi*o[ession+ aIl~
~ro%~de incentives for ~hose who are
c,.nreh~Iy teachin~ ~o remain £n the
field, we should not be adding ~ new
t=x to Sta~e ~nd local emploFees. It Is
unfair to single ou~ this group of
Work e]~ ~.~ a/ri~ P~rt S Of pI'~ dlloirlg r~t-~
hUeS for d elicit reduction.
ThL~ new tax represents a f'o2%da-
mentM shift in philosophy for our
Oovernment~ This new tax is n=thln.
short of zn attem=~ to shiI~ the
~overnments a dthat i I wha burden of defici~ reduction from ~he
© -- ~ ~eX~t y t f
it is Mr Prealdent and new Feder~J Federal Oovernmen~ ~o ~he StLe ~nd
tax on a ~' v local goven'zrn~n~$. This pro~[o~
The Finance Committee reeommenda- ex~ec ed to produce S~.7 b l.mn un
new
r~ve~ues over ~he ~ex~ 3 :.' e Rrs.
~alf o~
tha~ .%,'T~OIL~I~ WI/I COrSe fro~1~
~[?e e~-
ployees, and the other half from~tate
~-~d local go%'er'Ar~lenr.~ %~2"e are taxJEtg
our States. cities, and counties ~o ba/-
a.nee the Federal budget. It is a bad
pree ecrent, and one I do .n~ zuppor~.
'l~%e~e IS a &q'~ve l~is~e~ce~sion
about the flsesl Portion of our State~
and cities and their ability to fund
their portion of thiS new Medic~e ~ax.
Our $t~&e ~r~ local governnlents are
h~ no be£ter position to finance the
Federal debt them are we,
A~ Congress continues to cut vital
Feder~1 ~.~sist~nee to these govern-
ments, in p~rtieular, our recen~ mo~e
£~ e]imlnate the General L%evenue-
~AU~n ~ Program, ~ ~ell ~ decreased
fl/rlds for other prl3KTa//18, w~ foI~e ollr
State ~nd local government~ to pick up
more ~ld more of the burden of Dro-
viding for the health, safety, and seeu-
tion~ ex~end the hospital insurance
tax for Medicare to current and new!y
hired ~tate and local worke~-~. This is
~0~ ~ voluntary e]cctlo~% for .%ledlcare
Covep~ge--it i~ a mandate. ~nd ~h~.
m~a~e mes~u~ ~. new ~sd{ on ~t~te
In Kentucky, we have four b~ic
groups of S~&te ~n,d local employees
Who are not currently co'~ered by ~led-
ic~re. The largest of these groups is
the Kentucky schoolteachers, r~Drs-
senting approximately 44,000 emploF-
ees. T~e cost to the Co~mnonwe~dth of
Eentuck7 for Medica~e coverage for
thL~ group alone IS estLm~ted at $12.5
m~/ll~n. That is a hefty ~ax for my
~ta~e, and on~ Wllish We ar~ nol; in
positior* to fund.
"f"nls ~ax is pertiCul~rly onerous as i~
falL~ on the Eentueky schoolteacher,
The ~entucky Teachers Ret£rement
System is a~tuardy sound, Eentucky
teachers pay for postretlrement medi- rity of o~ citizens. There aze no sur-
ca/insurance. To impose this addition- Dins do]/~'~ in ~he tre~.~urles of these
~d tax on them i~ slrnply Lu~fair ~nd - gover~n~ent~ to pay for their share of
~etessary. • the ~r..datory iV~edict.re ¢0v~rag~.
Since 1939 the ~entueky Teacher'~ Th~ move will reqmze new tax. h'atla-
Retirement System has provlded Een- tires, and ~hat will take time.
Lucky teachers wit/~ a sound, funded, The Sea.ate Finance Committee re-
retirement syste~ As my colleagues cogized this need by delaying the pro-
may remember, public employees were visions of this new tax for i year.
]But
prohibited from participating in ~oci~l that, L~ not enough t/me for these
gnv-
~eurity Under the ori~ina/ provisions ernn%ent~ to prepm~ fgr th~ new
burden. The amendment by the Sena-
tor from Marne, Son.tar h~n.c~:~u, at-
tempta to addre~a this problem by f'Jm-
thor delaylng the provision refluL, ing
rnand~.tory ~edic~'e coverage for cur-
ren~ employ~s, by i ye~y. I support
the intent of wllat my dt~tin~hed
colleague ~ doing. I suppor~ grsing o~r
Sta~es and eommurdties additional
52200138£
not alrexdy under the sT~stem. I m~ of the act. Kentucky teachel~ Day fnto
pleaaed that, thu~ proposal h~.~ been the retirement system at a ra~e of 9,5
scaled b~ek to or~ly m~d~t~ Med~c~re percent. ~h£Ch is rn~t~hed by the
coverage. ]z[owever. I WOUld like tO - St~.~e. Of that contlJhution, approx,.
r~Iru~Id InY collea~es £ha~ tnany of us mately I percent goes ~0 a postretire-
in ~his boilF h~ve ar~ed th~ Social merit ~.edlca/ ins~r~u~ce prog1-'~/n.
The
Security and Medicare ~r~t {~J:I~d decL- c'J/Teng COSt of the fund is Sl5
~lion,
sions ~l~Ou~d not he rflade for the put- ~2%d is expected to rise to about $20
poses of I~der~l deficit reductiot~ We million Ltl the next ~ years. 'the
pro.

Gcto~r~22. 1985 . . CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--SENA2
S 1379;]
• tlme to try to mee% ~h.~ ne~. resDonsl other t0DZtCCO StAte Sena*ors
~}ou*d product by mcre~-strlg ti]e ¢igRrett~
bllity. ~ld I WOUld ]ik% to Su~Dort il~.'ll not oppo.~: the redes1 o[ the
tooacco exc~e "~ax. E~I thotlgh I syrnp~nlze
• on hLs amendment, excise t~ .Tar*set. B~/t let me be
c]e~r~ with W[l~t~ the SePJtt°r from ~ai"le
I do not think it gees far enough, t zn~ move to enange me provlslons,
to doing I cannot supvort him, and
W0Uld ]~reler th~.t we rlo$ tax the S~te inere~¢ the ~.x ar~ all. will
re,i/It hl tlr~e RIy colleabqleS ~o defea', tilis
whole lo% o£ people trying to help me
do that. We nibbled away ~.¢ revenue
sharing whi~ ~s d~mag~ng the com-
munities'and the ~tates by the loss of
f~lds. ~/et you want ~o come back to
The PRESIDING OFFICER, ~e
Senator's time ha.~ expired.
Mr FORD. I yield tl~e floor, Mr.
Prcsident~
~NLr. PACt~WOOD. Mr. President• l~t
me emphasize again what We llave ~l-
ready done in comparison with What
Lhe Budget Committee would h~ve
done. It is not just Medicare. The
Budge~ torero:tree's R~sumptIon when
we go~ this bill wa~ tha%, one, we
WO~id Cover 9.q eR1ployees, euITent em-
plo~¢ees and new employee~ with ~ed*
i~.re on J~nuary 1 1986: all new em-
vloyee~ on Social Secu~¢~ on J~uary
31 ~.986, and we would. Change the
method o[ applying the new Soc al Se-
curity t~.~ sehE~tlle to rtew employees
of State and local government~. The
revenue expected to he raised by that
method wa~ $9.1 billion ~ of January
I. 1986.
We ju~z about cu~ that m half.
slightly less than S3 billion. We ~ave
extended the tlme 9 mont/Is, we ha;e
no~ brought in Soei~I ~ecunty, and. I
think it is • fah" O0mprom~e, and one
that OUght to be ~doDted by thia
chamber.
Mr. MS:TCHELL midresaed ~ne
Chair..
The PRESIDLNG OFFICER. Who
~dclds time?
Mx. lVLITCHELL. ~r, Presidenl I
should like ~o respond, d I could. ~o
the pom~ m~de by the Chairm0~, It
h~ become ~ ~t2~d&rd oper~.tIP~g ~ro-
cedUre In Co~Igres.~ Irl ~he ]~t Jew
one place--tobacCo--and take that war years ~o have an Inlt'~ posluon taEen
~o pay [or ~he delay for only ! year. that is tot~ly unreasonable, vir~uau~'
The House Ways ~n.d Me~n~ posl* impossible to n'nplement, stud then. at
tlon. by the ~y. whlell ~ nee ~e~n the la.s~ moment, to move off t~at po*
voted on yet. is that you r~xe on new sttlon to another which then. bY ~rtue
hir~s~n~ everybody, just thoSe thal of Its comparlson ~o the Initial pOSl-
are hired new. I would ll~e to have an tlorL is hailc~ ~ a reasonable compro-
amendment ~o the effect ~ha~ th~ m m~se.
wlu~twedolneonferenee. - ~ere we are. ]n the fall of 1083.
We are goLnE to conference. There¸ There are vlrtually no ~ta~e le~sla-
]Senator DOL% repe~Jed t1%e sunset of are e lot of tbin~s tl~at can be worked
t~ras which are in session. We receive
i the cigarette tax: instituted a new tax OUt. I have a great devil of eonfldenee
a ~roposal that would mandate~man*
~n remake ess tobacco at a rate of 8¸ in th0ze who will negotiate in tb~t
date--tax inere~es in mgxly sr.a~es
~: cents per poand on. chewing tobacco conference¸ oon~nittee on wh~t ¢~n be
a~d in almost everF munleip~dlty in
~ aZld 24 ~ent~ on snuff and included done.
• • the co~itry; ~nd leave them no ~ime
i¸ the pr~visi0ns o£ ~. 1418, legislatinn I say again, a tax is & tax is
a tax. to do so. Then the Finance Comn~ttce
L • deslg~ed to n~e ~he tobacco program Ana the ~enator m pt~ttinff On
a new get~ that. a position clearly not possl-
~ mor~ r0arket oriented. - - tax. ][~ is not germane. ~Ve
have el- ble to hnpleme.Rt, not seriot~ly Lntend-
• - Thi~ was a careftl]l~ negotiated ready had that vo~e. The ChR
r hms a - ed. in rny Jud~enL ever ~o be adopt-
agreement between the major tobacco ready rued. Now al we i~2~%'e
is the ed, but merely ~o stake out an ori~nal
n%%nufact~rers, aud bot~ Burley and delay for 1 year. I think We
oRght to neg0¢lating position so that a seeond-
r Flue-cured growers. For 3 weeks we have It as it is, have a
sense-of-the- ary position would ~eem, in comp~trl-
hammered out our dd£ferem~es, and on ~enate reSOlution t~t we do
oot want son, ~o be re~uso~ahle. That is precisely
rise final day %htq ~roup spent 17 long• to pick these current
employees Up, what We have here.
tedious hou~ workin~ otlt* the f~/!2/ thS.L we want Just new hlres;
then we I Want to eraphRS]ze One further
packag~ Which became S. I,!18. the TO- can get the job done. I
suggest thnz to point; The cigarette tax Lncr~e
would not be permanent ~der the
baCCo Improvemeng Act of 19~5. This my culleagues.
agreement then bec~%r~e ~ar~of the Pi- TobacCo. and the smoking public
amendment I am Disposing. It Would
nanee C0mmi~tee me~ure under rec- who enjoy alegal product,
are contrib- be for 3"years 0nly, sufficient to cover
uth~g their fair share to
deficit reduc- or offset ~he ]os~ of revenue in t~e 1
oi%cltla ~Jo 61,
It was offered in ¢¢rnmittee a.~ a tion. We should not further
penalize year delay 0f ~,[edicare coverage.
thre~part package, and was adopted midd/e- ~ud low-income
Axaeriesms ~'~nally, the Senator" from Oregon.
with the a~'eem~n~ that L and ce~aln who; of their own free will.
enjoy thLs the d~tfn~uished chRirraan of the¸
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S 1~,,94 CONGRzSSIONA*. RECORD--SENATE
October~.. ~980
Committee on Finance, re&de, as MIL PACKWOOD. Mr. President, I er Medlc~ 'xill aDpb'. It~a
question
ahcay,% ,% Very eloq1:eI~t agTnment in want to ~nake sare the ~en~te und~r- of when. And if we are
~oing to impo~e
(errd5 of £he 12oli~y oil w~le~her 0~" nt)~ 8~8~rId$ I%0W orl whK~ ~%e ~r~
golnff [0
.~dedic~re c0ver~ge should ~DDIy uni- vote. The amendment of the ~en&t0r
formly to employees ~hrougnou'~ ~he from .%~alne h~Ls be~n divlded, W-e
are
• country. That decision has been raade, going ~o vote on, fltsL his portion
~0f
Tha~ ha.~ nothing to do wish this :he smendmeIlt which ~el~.ys for I
8mcrldlmen~. This araendl~en~ ~aises year ~he ex~e/~ion ~f ~[~dicar8
eov~r~
one question and one ques~ion only: age to ¢~irrenL employees; is tha~
cot-
That is t~e aate 011 W~iCh I~nd~tory reef? •
~ovet'aKe for" curren~ employees of The P~ESIDIN(~ O~iCE~. The
that burden on all these ro.un!ciDs.i[-,
ties, all of the property taxpayers in
this country, at the very leasz ~e
ough~ to h"~ve ~Zhe courtesy and the de-
cency and the spirit of f~.irnes$ tu
perr~J~ ti~e~ ~o have fl/ne ~o ~'repare
for, plan fob a1%d en~,cI, ~l%e t&x ir~-
cre~se $o they esA1 ~c~u~ly ~f:t the rcv-
eiiL~e wheD. they 8re force~[ to start
8tare and local g0vernraents Will Senator 15 eorrec$. -
p~.ying the hi]/that We are now imDos-
~-pply. New hires wlll remain covered Mr. P~.cKvqooD, A/Id, second, we
ing on them.
Inand~.torilF as of September 30. 1986. will then vote on ~he increcu~ed ci~-
Mr. PAC~.VOOID. ~r, President, if
The only questi01~ ha.~ nothing to do rett~ tax? "
we are going ~o t~,[~, about equities and
~.'i~h DoJicy: J~ ha~ to do with t~.mln~, I The PFL~SIDIN~ O]~9]CF/L The
g0in~ &rottnd ~ncrea~fng people's
would ~ay It ts simply fairness to give Senator ~ correct:.
Laxes, wh,%t is ~auce for the goo~e Is
the mtlnicipalities the ttr~e to prepare ~r, PACKWOL, D, TD.~ Senate .hI~s
~uce for he g~-nder. Let t%s rel'er~e
~or ZI~d t0 ~nact the i%ew t~xes w~ich alt'e~dy ~xo~% t)'; 9;t'i~& I Chlt:(c is 8.
the Co 11 -A'I~dic&~ eo.~t~ s.rB goin~ liD,
~h~s w~il require. , wry prel~onder~nt vote ~ts d:~mcl~n~- Med care axes
are evied upon. at, e
h~ ch~Irms/I h/P~seif "Ni}! recall ~loI% .o vo~e fo~ ~n !i1cre~ ~.
the ClQ~.- ~ . ) •
....
rI1orn£y~t~ ~ ~'~ ~i~ely defln~ble g~'oup
~hS.t ,&*hen I raISsd ..... th~ u,l the Finance retie £~.~ see% ~ the preseI1t it~
cents, o~emDoses,*e ~r~d wedo 11o~ br ri=o
Corm~l ee and sald d, bs ~eonsi~ten% but~ t3na~ m the 8e~ond par~ of this
the Sta~e and rnun clnat em a "ees
for Federal o~fJcm.s like ~ to go arnendmenL Thn~ ~ OUL For the
inco It Chert the ~fedlc&te [~es are
&i~otlndsg.ylngto people "%'4e sge not mornentwe~.regotI%~tovo~eondel~.y,
goii~ lip ell the others who zre &b
raisinz Foul- t~.xes" then to p~x.s8 ~ biU Irlg the ex~ezl.sion o[ Medics1"e
pl).y, r~Kdy payL~ ~,~[e~care ~sx~. A/~O. we
~h~ch requires every ~o~Tt [11 Arner(¢~, merits for l year s~ & cos~ of abou~
8Z.2 con s'C~nd back alld say we did net in-
to i'aise ts.xes, th~ chI~irm~I% ss.id, very billion- I believe my good friend from
crease ~otlr t~ce$. They c~r$ goiilg to
forth."ightly, '(Nobody Is kidd[n~ ~hem- IV[sine w~]~ hndic~te ~h~ i~ roughly
the ~ Up o~e 7.ay or the ofher ~nd ~e
~elves; thi~ is a L%X in~re~se." The cos~. $o We are goh~ to hs, ve ~.
budget ql/es~1on i~, are ~hey ~oh~g to go uD
problem i~ it is ~ LCU% increase Which. loss Of $2.~ billion the first hB.]f of this
mere on those who ?*re currently
~%'e2~ se~ee~nan, m~Y0r, and n]ds;rr~an ~/nendr°ent &nd hope ~"~ Pick if ~'IP
p&ylt~ ~heIT& or C~re ~'e ~0ing to hrfn~-
In Ah~cric~. will b~.%,~ to L'.~Dose be- l&ter* ~[~ybe We W~lh mB.ybe We will
i~to ~lle system ~%eryone who is rLo~
cause we ~.re ruRking them (~o it ~o we
C~A~ ~0 ~rO~I%d ~.~d Say tO oIlr cOt~i£Lt.
~[S, "We ~re nell r 21sII1.~ ~ot~ tRXCS s.t
1he Federal leveL'"
if 're are going to do that. and we
0b% [OtlSly 8.Ee goII%g %o dO thB.t, nil I
~y~n~ Js'gJve then~ ~he tllne to pJan
for iL to consider w-h~ tax increase is
better Lu~der this circ~rnat~ce, t, nd to
~ut i~ int~ effect- T~I~ ~ ~he nn/y
~ue.
Mr. President) I ask for the yem~ ~,~.d
Ii~t ys ~It my [t mend~Jae~t.
The P~IDING OFg'ICE~.. Is
tliere ~ ~ul/tcien~ second? There L~
suf ficien~ second,
The ye~s and n~.ys were ordered.
~,L~ /V&'TCE~LL Mr President,
KSk ~or m division of mF ~ e nc[n~er~t On
p~ge 3 between lines 15 and 16.
The PI~EStD~NG O~CiIi~. & dfvi-
SiO~ L~ req1~ested,
~r. PACKWOOD. ~,tr. President.
how Irtuch ~qrne rema~?
The PR~IDI~G OFFICEI~, The
noL Bu~ I |lODe W~ mre llOt ~oL!lg to
slart down {his proce~ of loss and
hope. loss and hope, loSS ~nd hope be-
cause indeed it is ~. loss of about $2.2
biIi~on if we delay the extension of
~v!ec~ic&ro coverage for ct~rrent ~mDloy-
ees for 1 ~-ear. I wo&LId ~g~/i~ urge that
I~y col]e~.8lles defe~.l; this ~me~l(iineI~t
iu its entirety and-szarG by defe~ting
the flrS~ ~e~en~. of it.
/~r. MI~CH'FT,T,. H~ the ~enator
completed?
Mr. PAC/C~/C OD. Y~s.
~[r. I~L~2 C ~ LL. Mx. Presldenu
The PI~ESIDING OF]~ICT/~. The
Sen&t~r i~om ~laine.
~Ir. M/TCHELL. I merely wanz %o
repea~ ~;o pcdnr~ tha~ I made emmJJer,
and I ask all ~en~.tor~ to c0naider it.
The fir~ Is that munleiDahties in
every 8~ate ~-3/be teqttk'ed to raia~ Its
ri0w pg.yiI%g theIIt.. BUt to SD.y Or% the•
one hand, "Oh, no, we ~.re not going to
r:~ise your ~_Rxes." or, Lf ',%'e DL%t thls in,
,,~VB a~-e goJ~ ~0 r~se yo~r ~s,e~" i~
et%L~ both w~.y~. We either increas~ the
t K,xe$ 0Fz ~hose Cu ~'ell [i~ C0 ~,~r ~d 0r ~. &
try to ~I~}~e ~he bKse bro~der and tn~re
fau" by bringL~g in under e0v~age
those who now p~y no ta~xe~ at all and
get I00 percent of the benefits. I
would ar~e ~h~t the ~quities are more
on Lh~ s~de or br]ngin~ everyone in
~d having ~hem a/l pay t~:es th~n to
rKise %he t~xes ~ore th~i~¸ w~ wot~Id
otherc¢ise r~L~e ~he~ beo~se ~'e do
no~ £ne/ude wi~hi~ the ba~e those W~O
pz.v no L%xe~ at all.
I~Y. MITC~I,T, &dd~essed the
Chzir.
The I°~F~IDI~T~ OI~IICE~. The
~axes if my ~men~hr*en~ is defeated. Senator frora ~Is.[Ine.
And they v.~ll huve tado so with very .~,~. MITCHELL. I merely respond
l~ttle time to plsn for, preps.re for. ~d by se.ying ~he rea.~on St2.~e onmd
local
enact that ~ incr¢'a~e. They ~ill be government employees were no~ ttnder
Senahor from Oregon hzs 17 ~Jnutes, forced to do th~ by sctions we ~re
59 ~eeon~.% The Send.rot f~om Mmne • t~king sO t~t we oan con~kque to go
h~ 2 minutes and 52 ~econds. aroxind 0a~ga ~eL! th~ ~x.erfcan
people,
M'r. PACICWOOD. ~ I ~inder~tand
that the division is requested o~ the
eig:Lrette t~ ]~1.t of the ~.rner*dment
first?
The PR~SIIDrt~Cr OFFIC'E~. Tha~
will b~ voted or** 3eco~i.
l%Ir. PAC~OOO. M~'. President, I
~IggC~L the ~.bs e lice o~ ~ cEn0r~ra.
The P.q~SIDING OI:7~IC~, The
~lerk ?;ill c~ll th~ re
The ~s~f~tant legislatlve clerk pro-
ceede~ ~o call ~he roll,
Mr. PA~OOD. Mr* President, I
B.Sk U~l:%ntrfl0LL~ COI%Se~ th~&t 1.he order
for th~ qu0 i~m call b~ rescii1ded,
The P~F.~SIDING OF~ICEI~. V4ith~
out objection, i~ is SO ordered.
,,%-e ere not ma~,~ yE~.l, taxes," Aizd
evel3" 8e~abor who votes for the corn~
mlttee bill ~xld ags/Dst my ~mendrne~t
/9, m fsct, votL'~g for a t~x increase, m~
the Sen~,~or from Oregor~. ~he c~ha~-
man of ~he eoramittee, for ~hri~h~ly ~c-
knowled~[ed dtlring the l~ln~nee C~m-
mittee deliberation. ~Vhst we ~re
dDJ~g i~ voIi.~" ~o compe} se]ec~:~en
~d mmFo~ Knd aldermen ~o r~l~e
tKX~ &t 5he local leve! ~o we c~.i% go
• ro~d ~L~d k~ep s~.ying, ,~We 8~r~ ~ot.
raising your k~,xes." And as I s~id in
my earlter remsrk~, Lnconsis~ent ~ the
mo81~ generou.~ phra~ t csm ~ to ~-~
strobe that beha~o~, Now. th~s can be
done. This L~ ~o~ a quentin ol ~'besh¸-
So~a3. Security Knd ~ledie~'e is be-
ce, use we, by law. prohibited ~hem
from being %under ~ed/cs.te for many
yeer~. Tha~ i~ ~he re,on ~or it. Now
quh'~s them to come under it. An~ ~he
e~u~tF of that lass been deelde~L Tha~ "
m no~ being debated. The onl.v ques-
tion is. shO%lld we do so in a pr~-~ipi-
tous ~a.n~er so ttlat ~e $~.2 billion
t~.x ~ ~re requiring the~ tow~ to
~he same ~me t/~at they lose the $4.6
b ~ioD. from reve~lue sl~a~ t.h~.~ they
are gol~.g ~0 lose~ neg~.civ~ effect on
the £tna~eia/ con~/~ion of the munEci*
palitie~ of Americ~ of $6.8 bfll~n ~
All troy amend~en~ WflI do will he to
delay ~or I year ~hat 1:~r~io~ of ~he ad-
5 zoola ,

G¢,coer ~=, 1,985
lethe imD~et tlxat is ~ttri~u~le to ~he E:~
mendS.tory coverage under Med!c~.re. E:~oa
F,o~a
They ar~ still going to I~ve to pay. Garn
The equiu.' question Is resolvecL The oom
only qu~tion is when. iI we are going ~non
G raw_m
to do it. ~nd it shou/d be done. I stay G~ley
We one additional year to prepare it. ~h
The PRES1DL~O O~ICZ:~• Who ~zwzim
~2elds time? If no one yield~ time, all .-.~,cm
Heflln
rime k~ equally divided. Heinz
Mr• DOLE. Mr. FTesident. how inuch Eetm~
time ~m~.~ns? Ho]Im~
Htu~ ~z~b•
The pF, ESIDI~IG OF~qCER. Eight J~ra:on
minutes and t-xenc~'-six secon~ for
t~2e ~enasor fronl Or~gon, and :lo ~i!~le
for the Senator Iron Maine.
Mr. DOLE.. t~ow much time remMns
on Ihe bill?
The pI~ESID~G OFFICER. Seven
hours ~d eight minutes.
Mr. DOLE. ~Lr. President. I am
goi~lg to ~3ove ~o table divl~i~n 10[
this ~mnendment. 5~ I understand, the
• raendment h~ been divided. N~y
motion to table will be on the firs~
DaT~ 01" th~ a~en(~:~eflt.
Mr. Pre~idenL I hoDe the attend-
meat will be trebled. We just wen~
through an exercise here• m,'my of ~L%
70-some Sen~.tor~, on the S0-caHed
Gramm-Rudman amendment, and all
t~e ~.hings We were c(lncerr~ed abo/t~;
and now we ~re %~21/ag to find some
~r. Presidenl:. I yield ba~k the re-
mainder of the time, and I move to
table dkusion I of this amenament,
and I ask f~r the ye~.~ and nays.
The pRESIDING OI~.ICER. I~
there a ~uflicient second? .
CONGRESSIONAL P~ECORD -- SE~NATE
A~nor
~n~en
I]iden
Coima
D'Am~to
S 13"95
I.L~se~aum Quayte
Ka~t~ ~iegle
L~xzlt R0¢~e[el]er
Long Roth
MCCO~ Stevens
Mdcher SI~
M0ynih~n Thu~on~
,,¢unn ~xZ~op
i: ac k~,~ • Warner
prettier Wem~er
p~vxmge Witsoa
NAys--25
DlxDn L~vm
Dodd . ~ e~nbaum
O~eru~ Mi~¢he~
PUll
~arOane~
lOC:IL bonds £haZ rilg~y inVOlVe exemp-
tion of Federal taxation.
Mr. RLEGLE. ~r. PresidenL I wont
Io COiXU.~l~[1d tile ~al~kJ.~_~ C0n~/listee
Chairman for his work on this legisla-
the term 'ot~er Pederal a,~tm~ce" in
tl!is case does not include financing
%hrough II)B's or other forms of fi:
n~n~ng that do not involve direct Fed
era[ funding to the project. The
UDAG Program is intended to eneour-.
age cities. Sta~es. and private business
to use all of the resources a~ their dis-
pc~aI t@ held develop the economies of
distressed cities. This provision L~ con-
~isten~ with that obJ~Jtlve. I also wa[1~
to pont out that the commfttee in-
tends to leave i~ up to the Secretary of
HUD to act ermme the extem to which
Ee~ Silken
tamc~er~ - . . nofl-LqDAG funding should be cor2id-
L~ay ered in D~DAG project Selection.
NOTVO~N~--8 Mr. GAR~. Mr• President, I agree
~o~e~ ~OldX~ter :<athi~ with Senator P~tXCLZ in his in~erpreta-
I~-~otlh FI~t lield ~p~ter ~iOFl O~ that pro %'LSion.
v2~aetoo Inoule : s:em~m NIX. DOLE. Mr• Pr~idenL let me in-
. SO the motion to table dk~i~n one dic~te ~o my colleagues that we do
of ~rnendm.ent NO. 840 was a~eed to. hope to be on the DOT appropriation~
,
N:r. DOLE. ~r. President, I move to biH by 9 o'clock i~ Ihe morning. I have
reco~ider ~he vote by which the disclosed tllat wish Senator CHILES
motloD W~ ~.~[l"~ed to. ~ gud Sells, lot ~.~D~KAVS* l-~oDe.~ully,
We
Mr. DGMENICL I move to lay that could complete action on t~a~ ap~ro-
m~lien on the table, priaticcn bill by 12 or I o'clock and
The mo~ion to lay on the table was tlien come b,%ck to reconcflia~Lo~ to-
a~o'eed to. morrow ~e~ooiL
-Yr. DOI~,, h~Tr. president, parUa-
mentary mquiry, x,Vh~ happens to the "
~eeDnd cik~o n now?
The Pk~XD~'qG O1rSqCEi%.'The
yeas P.~. ~ys ha~ ]3eeu o~dered 012 It
There is a ~uf ficien~ second, and that would now be in order•
The "ess and na 's were ordered. : ~i%fr" DOI~ Mr. ~/'resident. le~ me.
Tile p~ESLDING OFFICe. The ~'.eld to ~he ci~gu~led ~ena~or
que~tion is on agreeing ~o ~he m0 on from t,121ne. I have indicated to my
to tab e dlvis on i of the ~endment• colleagues tha~ there WOUld be no
O[1 th1~" qUeSt 011 ~he ye~s ~d 115¢~'3 moI'e, votes th1~ evenlng.. I hope we
have been oraere" d. and the clerk V.~ll might be able to ~ntlate ~hat. .
eal/theroil l~. MITC~LL. Mr. President, I
• ~ . - ~ t~nimoIl~. ~p.se~ tha~ the 3"e~
The a~s~s~ant le~nslatl~e elerm cai!ed
. .
h tel and nays on d[viston ~'o be ~ntm~ecL
~' ~Ir+ ~IIVIPSON. I announce ~hat the The PRESIDLNG OF~ICEP~ Is
the Senator from Mi~ouri [1~m. D~- there objection? WitD~0ut obJecison, it
feral, the Sen~.~or from ~izonm Fh~r+ ~ ~o ordered,
end.tot ~rom Ore-on Mr. DOLE. ~.Ir. Pre~idenL h~.ve we
OOL~WAXX~I. the ~ . - ~ d o
as.cot from Is csed cf that.
Ma.{Mr'yla[1dHAT~I~]'[Mr. the ~ea~d t h e, Sen- The PRESIDIN~ O~ICER. We
~T~]'_N[r SpeCTeR would still h~ve to voice vote that.
ator from penn~ylva~Aa [_ . ~ ] The question is on ~greeing r~ divi-
" t&hom~ IV~r ~t" el2 two %a~re]e~sd.
the Soma or from Okl [ " Mr. GAR~ ~ president the Bank-
~ORENI t~le ~ellator from ~S0~I~I
~ a
• ing Commktee hms ted y re ched
[Mr. EA~LX~ON], the Senator from a cement on • bill to achieve the
sav-
~.&.aii U~" r~o~E ~d the Senator . aT*
rags caned ~or under the budget recon-
from M~ISSlDDI [zN~r. STZI~rt~S]. are eflia~ion h"~truetio~ I wish t~ c!adfy
neee~sag y absen ~ • . •
.
t.e co--trees lnten5 On Olle ~ro%l-
The pI%X.~IDING OFFICEP. (Mr. . .
thor en men m hat egm~on, ~he one dea-
~ose~t~l.~z}. Are ~here any ~ S " ing wt~h an Irhprovemen~ in the Urban
a~ors k~ the Ch~T~er who des/re tO
%,O~e? . Development' Action Grant Progr~l.
The bill pro~qdes tha~ "To the cxte[1t
The result, w~ announced--yea~ 66. the Secretary of ~ deems a.ppropfi-
nays 25. ~.s follow~ ate. the extent of other Federal mssis
~+
[iR °~lcal~ Vote N°- 2~1 Leg'] ~oe to be made avai!abte--in addition
yEAS~6 to Lq3AG--shall be considered" in ap-
Andre'~ Bl~d D~n ~]ying certain selection eri*~er!a. I
wan~
Ar~-¢tr~nl CIl~fee D°le tO make it clear that the term "other
B~UCLX~ Chiles I3omenlca
~i.~, ccc!~ O,ten~r~er l~edert.1 e~s~star, ee" does nc~ refer to
Bt~2tl*ez DeC~to* ~t financing ]Droeided t~roL~gh ~&te or
