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House of Representatives, Public Health Cigarette Smoking Act of 1969

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United States pROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF TH~ 9Isl CONGRESS, FIRST SESSION L ----_" Vol. 11~ WASHINGTON, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 18, 1969 No, 100 House of Representatives Public tle~Ith Cigarette Smoking Act: By a voice vote, the House passed H,R. 6543, to extend public heahh protection with respect to cigarette smoking. By a record vote of 137 yeas to 262 nays, a motinn to recommit the bill to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce was rejected, Agreed to the committee amend ments. By a teller vote of 87 yeas to xI4 naysj reiected an amendment to a committee amendment that vn~ald cause the regulations which affect the advertishag provi- sions in the bill to expire on July t, t97:b in lieu of July x, x975; Rejected an amendment that would call for the S~lr- geon General's warning regarding health hazards ill- volved in cigarette smoking, to be used irt all forms of advertising dgarettes; Rejected, by a dlvisioa vote of 35 yeas to 59 nays, an amendment that would prohibit cigarette advertising on any program designed to be viewed or heard by anyone under the age of ~8; Rejected, by a division vote of 42 yeas to 7o nays, an amendment that would cause the Surgeon General s warning regarding cigarette smoking to be placed on both the front and b~ck of the cigarette package; re- jected an amendment to this amendment that would call for the warn!ng to he placed on one side of the" lxackage; By a divlslon vote of 37 yeas o 76 nays, reiec ed an amendment that would cause the average tar and nlco~ tine content per cigarette to be printed on each package of cigaret t~; Re ected an amendment desigtled to prohibit the FCC from banning any cigarette advertising, but under exist- ing authority, may regulate clgarette advertising; Rejected, by a division vote o~ 37 yeas to 59 nays, anaendment that wouldplermlt the Surgeon General s health warning to be included in cigarette advertising; By a division vote of 44 ~eas to 79 nays, rejected an amendment that would assure States that t~roblbit sales of cigarette* to minors would be able to control elgarett~ advertising within the State by including within the ad- vertlslng the 1 anguage that cigarettes are not to be~old to minors; and An amendment that would cause the Secreta~ o~ Agrlcultur¢ to file a report to Congress rdadng to the financial assistance provided by the United States to the tobacco industa'y. ~,¢,~ H ,~v3 t~'4 ,vu,4
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June 18, 1969 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- HOUSE• pUBLIC HEALTH CIGARETTE SMOKING ACT OF 1D89 Mr. STA~E~S, ~r. Speaker. ][ move that the Holme resolve itself Into the Committee Of the W]ao]e HOlI~ On the StaLe of the Union for the further eon- n]deratl~n of the bill {H,R, ~543) to ex- tend pub~ health protection With re. sDeot to cigarette Rmoldng ~ for 0East l~urpose~. The SPEAKER. The question Is on the motion offered by the ~ent]~man from We*~ Virginia. The mo~lon was ~gre~ed to. • IN ~Z Oo~rrrr~ Or T~rl WHOI~ A¢coredn~I.v the HottBe received itself In'to the Committee Of the Whole Ho~me on the Stat~ o~ the Union for the ;fur kher con~deration of the bill, H~, ~543, with Mr, BROO~ in the ¢ha[r. Tile Clerk read the title of the bill The ~HAIRMAN. When the Corn° mlttee rose on yesterday, th® Clerk had read through I~e~tion !, ending on line 4. page 1 of the biB. If there are no amendment* to this section, the Clerk Will read. The ~'qerk re~d as fol]~w~: H4939 135~) ~ amend~ ~o re~ al ~vl]~wa: "S~. 2. It 1~ thv potl~y ot t~o Congre~, bn~l the purpose of thia act, to e~tabl$1~ ¢omprvhe~lve Federal pro~ra~ ~ ae~l ~th cigarette ]~bellng an~ ~iver~sl~g w~th respect ~ ~ny retatl~n~hlp t~wee~ ~mok]~ ~,lld he~]%h, whereby-- , ~orme~ that ¢~g~rett~ ~m~kin~ m~y be h~z° ~a~ e~ect on each package of ¢~g~rett~s; and .,(2) co~lmerce a~d the ~a~A~n~l ¢c0~omy tent co~te~t with th~ de~l areal po~y a~l ~etwee~ ~n~kln g ~mcl health, "(A) anF roll ~f tob~o ~'app~d In pape~ or ht any ~ubst~¢e ~ot con~ain~g ~bacc~ "(B~ ~F ~oll of ~ba~ ~Tapp~ l~ any sut~tance ~ntaln~g ~b~ w~c~, bVC~ of lt~ ~.ppe~r~nce, th~ type o! tobacco ~d Dk¢ly ~ be Offered to, or purchased by, eo~- ~umer~ ~ a elg~ette de~r~bed ~ ~ubp~ra° .,(~) ~¢ terr~ ,¢~rrm~erce, means (AI ¢om- mer~ be~wee~ any State, th~ D~trlct o~ Oo~umb[a. the C~mon~e~th of ~erto ~o~, Wake L~an~, l~id way L~ands, King. ou~lde thereof~ (B) ~rdm~rce b~tWeon pOI~ ~n a~y S~te. th~ ~tric~ of Col~. b~a. t~ ~mmonwealth of ~1~o ~A~ Guam, th~ VIrg~n ~lsn~s, ~e~c~n Samo~- o~- jolln~t~n Isla~, but through any place ou~,~de ~reof~ or IC) ¢o~er~v Wholly wlth~ th~ District of C~lu~bl~, OU~, the Vlr~l~ I$]~nd~, A~e~icaD Samoa, W~kv ~. land, ~l¢~way |~]ands, Klngraa~ Reel ~r JohnsOn Island "(~) The term ,Untted State~, ~hen ~td ~n a geographical ~en~e. m~tude~ thv ~e~er~ mcn~e~lth o~ Puerto RICO, (~uam, the Vff- ton ~]an~ ~(~) The ~r~ 'packsge' mean~ a p~k~ box Cl~b~eLt e~ are o~ered for sale, ~o1¢~, or other= W~e ~l~trlbu~d to const~ner~ u~l, partnershtp, corporation, or ~ny o~her "S~c. 4~ It sh~ll be unla~u] for any per. ~on to m~f~cgt~e, l~pvrt, ~r p~ckage ~ vale or ~l~t~but~o~ v~ thin t~¢ U~ted 8ts~e~ ~F elgaret~s the package cf wh~vh falls arette ~mok]~g ~ay BO H~rdo~s t~ Tour Health ' SUC~ ~ta~ement Sh~l] be ~ocated in ase and ~l ~ppe~ tD r~nsplcuous ~nd 1~i. b]e tFpe In ¢~ntrast by typo~r ap~y, l~y~t, or ~olor With ot~er prln~ed matter on t~v p~ka~e. • moklng su~ ~ealth Othe~ th~.thv stxte. ~ent r~l~lted by ~ect[o~ ~ 04~ thl~ A~, t]~]l be requirefl on auy cigarette package. "(b) No s~emcn! relat InE to ~mk ing ~nd health ~h&]] be requ[re~ In the ad~ertis]nE of ~F clgarette~ t~e p~K~lg~ ~f which are I
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H4940 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--HOUSE June 18, 1969 labeled lix ¢ordormlty With ule pr0~dslons C*[ The OIffAIl~Mfl.N, The gent~ef~tn WIll a~llendol~i~t No~ ~ ~ ~ ofl[~red this Act, sLa~ It, ~equently, ~thOut Jeopardy, "(c) Except e.s [e otherwl~ provided Irt 6ubsectlolis (a) acid (b), txothhtg la this Act •hall be construed ~ Itm~t, restrict, 0xpaad, or OtherwSse affect, tho authority of tho Fed~ eral UYade Comml~lon with r e~p¢ct to nnfalr or d0ceptlVe ~ts or practlo~ in the sdve¢- ta~{ng of c~garett~. ~ot to amrm or deby the Federal Trade Corn mission's holding that {t had the authority to ieBue trade regulatlo~ • oles or to roQutrc an af~rmat~ve statem~l. in any cigarette advertisement "(d)({) Th~ Secretary ol Health, Educa- tion¸ and Welfare ~l~[t transmit a report to the Congre~ z~ot later th~n eighteen montlts •feer the effectlV0 date of thtB ACt, and a~. nually the~eafteL eoncer~dlt~ (A) curreat in- formation on the health consequences o~ ~moklng and (B) SUCh r~c0~mendatlon~ for [eglslation as he may deem appropriate "l~l The Fe~i~ral Trade Commlss{o~ ~hall tr~r~m[t s report to the Congress not t~ter than elghtoen months after the effe0t{ve da~ of th~s Act, and a~UalLy thereafter, con- c~ruh~g (AI the e~oct~vene&s of c~garette ]abeltng~ (B) current practlcee and methods of ~lgare~t¢ ~dver~tslng and pro~n*tion. ~nd (C) such recommenda~one for legl~t{on as it may dCCm ~ppr0p¢lat~, ,~.u, ¢*. AnF perso~ who v[o{~tes the pzovl* siena of thle Act ~all be guilty of ~ mtE~ delineative dud sha~l ou eo~lvlction thereof bc subject to ~ fine of n~t m~re than $10,000¸ ~.~C 7 The ~ever~l d~st~et c~nrhs of the ~nlto~ St~te~ are InveSted w2th jtt.2s~tcti~j foe ~USe ~howt, to prevent a~d ~straln vlola0on~ vtf thbs Act ~tp*n the application o~ the A~tOeney Oener~ o~ the United Sta te~ w0tlng *~hr oOgh tile several United State, s at. t0rneys {n their ~ever~l districts • 'cieA~rcs ~lt ZXeO~T "SEe. 8 p~ckage~ of cigarettc~ man,fea- tured imported, or packaged (1) for exl~rt fr~ the United ~tat~ or (2) for ¢tellVery to e vessel or aircraft, a~ ~upplle~, toe co~. ~umptlOn beyond the Jurmd~et{~n ~ the l~. ternal revenue law~ of the UvJte~ Ste~ •hall ~ exempt ~rom the r~qulremctl~s ol ~hts Act. but ~uoh ox~mption~ abed] r~ot ap- ply to clgaret~s m~ufa~tured. 1repot too. ot 10eok~ged f~r ~le or distrlbut[ou t~ ~no~bers or u~lt* c~ the Armed For~ of t~e Urdbvd ~t~tcs located outside of the vdlHted State~. "~EpAaA~ zLrr y "SZ~. 9, If ~¥ provision of thts ACt or the appl[~tk0tX ~rcof to a~y pe~ or elf ouro. $~.ue~ l~ held lnv~l~cl ~he Other provl~lon~ of tYd~ ACt ~01.be application of sUCh pI~- v~o~ to othe~ per~ or circumstances r~t~ll not be ~iXected thereby¸ "S~v tO Th~ ACt Shall t~ke eff~at On JulF 1. 196~ - Mr STAGCtER~ (during the re=ca= {ng) Mr. Chairman, I ~k tm~xlmolls exm~ent that the bill be considered as re~ and printed in the Rtcolv and open to amendment at any point The CHAIRMAN Is there ob~eet [0¢1 to the reqtlest Of the gent]em~ fro~a We~t virginia? There was no obj~lon co~mlrr zz ^Mz~t~r~ The CHAII~. The Clerk W~ll re. i~ort 1,he first ¢omn~ttee amenclmertt. "L2te Clerk read as follows: Commttee alt~e~ent: On page 1. beglt~- ixtn~ U~ ut~ ~, of the repot t~ bill ~ t4~e OU~ ~t ~t~ort in lieu thereof "~tlo~ tt through l0 of P~bl[c l~w $~2 (15 ~.S.C, 18~1 1~38) are", PARLI~NTA~r t N f*l~lZ ~ Mr. ADAMS Mr. Chairman, a parlia- mentary Inquiry. ~r. ADAMS. I~'. Challm~an, if the ~Ja~*itdment~s are ~flopb~d ~hat are the 0or~llt~e amendments to the bill, then wou]d amendments by Memb~r~ be in order to th0~ ~ect4ons that Were amended ? The [~HAIF~M~, They would be m~- I~S they amended the torero{tree ~me~dment. Mr. ADAM~. Mr. Chairm~n, that what I Was inquiring abo~t, ~n o~ler word~, an amen~hnent to the 0c~nnfltb~e anlonchne nt wO~]d not be i~ ol~m. If t~lat committee amen~h1~ent were adopted, Therefore, we would ~ requlr~ to offe~ 0Up ~me~idment~ which would go to the s~me s~t{or, and the ~ame lan- ~nla~e prior to the a~pt~ of the corn° m}t~e ~nendment by the Conu~It~e of the Whole~ The CHAYI~MAN. The ~ner~er~t~ ~ho~Id be offered as amendment ~ to the committee amendment~s when submit- ted. Mr. ADAM~. Then. Mr. Ch~drman, on the fir~ committee amendment, we have an amendment, The CHAIRMAN. T~e first commit- tee ~mead~ten~ IS On ~e I, line 6 The quit}on is on the ~ramitb~e ~endmm~t The ¢om[alt ~ amendment was a~re~d to. The ~HAI~MAN. The Clerk wlll ~- l~Ort the next ~mmlt~ ar~¢ndment. The clerk read as follows : Co~tt~ a~adm~nt: On page ~, begln~ Idng i~ ~Ine ?, ~trtke oat ,,,0~uUon; Ciga- ~t~o Smoking M~ ~ Ha~rdoO~ to Your H~alth'" ~Od ~r~ert {~ ]teu the:eof the er~[ E~ I~r~ined That Ctgaret~o ~toko [l~g IS I)angeroo~ to your H~ith ~id ~ay Ca~ Uong Oe~e or Other D~e~.'" The CHAPMAN. Are there a~y ~me~dm~s to th~ ~ommttt~e ~me~c[. men~? a~V~ZNT Or~gzo ~T M~. AUAMS ~0 V~I Mr. ADAMS¸ Mr. Chairman. I offer an amendme~ to ~h~ eomn~ttee ~mend~ ment. Th0 Clerk read ~s follows: Amo~nt offeeed by Mr, A~M~ tO ~he ooau~Itt~e ~dme~t: O~ ~e 4, II~0 15, $~ ~tor the p©~ ~ho ~O~lo~ng new ~n~nce : ,,In the c~se rff a~¥ etga~¢t~ p~ck- ago h~V~ mo~0 ~haJl oa0 SI~. such $~t¢~ ~nt ~hall bo placed oa the tw~ ~Id~t The CF~dRMAN, The ~en~0man of- ~er~ the a~leIldlnent a;s ~n Bmenc~e~t to the ~O~nd eom~dt~ee araendm~t? Mr AD~S Yes, Mr Ohalrman. That Wa~ the reason why I made the p0.r~lao men[~ry Inqulr~, t0 be eer~aln that an ~.me~dr~e~t wh{0h wa~ a ehgnge In [he lan~e of the a~to~l lab~l Itself, On the po~itloning of the label, would not be pa~s~d by and be out of order Lf the ~mmi~e amendment were adopted. Mr. WATSON, Mr. Chairman, I make the polr~t ol order that the amendmen~ to the conu~v ar~endment i~ ~ot order, Inasmu0h as it does not d~r*ctlF relate to the ~w ~e Of the ¢0r~. mltt~ am0ndment. • The CFIAIR~. T1~e Chair wi}l st~t~ that this amendment to ~he eomrr~ttco Mr. ADAM~. Their, ]~r. Ch~.~i~fl~, I ask unanlmotl~ col~crtt to withdraw the ~mendmen~. 2*he CIIAIItMAN' Without objection, it {s s~ ordered. There wa~ no objection. The CHAZI~MAN. The ~ue~tlon is On the eomm{tte~ amendmo~t. The committee ~mendment was agreed The CHAIP~MAN. The Cle~ will re° P~rt the nex~ e~mmlttee e~nendment. The Clerk read as follOWS: COmmittee mmendmer*t: &n ~ 5. tine 4, strike out "noV, att~ I~$cr~ In Lieu t~ert~of • .~or. The oc~nmittee amendment, was agreed to, The CHAIl~MA~ The Clerk will r~- port the next committee mne~drnent. The Clezk read as follows: COU~ldt~.e e~te~dmen~; On pe4ge 6, ~L~lke O~ line ~ tdlcl ln~ert £tt lieu theTeof ~he foIlowing: - .~j. [0. The prOVl~lolx~ of ¢~hl* ACI ~lch affect the regul~t4on of edvorLIMt~ ~hall berth1 n ~te on JUIF ~. lg~. but such ~a- tlon ~b~ll ~o~ be top, treed e~ l~tl~g, ex- pSUdl~g or o~her~L~ ~ot.lng the J~r~lte. ~on of autho~t£ ~h[ch ~o ~ederaa Tr~ COIX~ J~l~10~ 0t ~ Other Fe~le~l ~nc~ h~d prior to the d~te of e~t~er~t o~" tlal~ Aoe' "8~C. 3 T~ eaneadmc~ m~de by th~ Act shall t~ke ¢~¢ct C~ JU~y l. 19~0y Me. TIER,NAN. I~r. CheirnmIL I offer e.n arden dme~t to the ¢0tt~LIt4~ ~l~11d - m0nt The Clerk read as follows: Amendment cffercd by Mr. TZ~I~ to ~ ~on~alCte~ ~namen~: O~ .~A~e ~, lint 4. ~t~lke out .'1975" ~d l~ert IR neu t~ereof Mr TJLERNAJ~T Mr. Chairman, my amendmertt will simpl~ change the period for the enactment of this act from 1975 to 1972. If Members h~,ve taken the time to read the bLIl~ or~ page b we would re~tuire the Secretary of Health, Education, an(t W~I- fare to report to the C0ngre.~ not later than 18 months after the effective date of this act. In that ~ectton it requlre~, fir*t, the current informaUon on health ¢onse- quet~ces of smoking; and second, such recommendations for legislation as he may deem appropriate be sent t~ us wLthltt 18 months eftar the eff~ttve date of this enacttnent. Also on page ~ it re~ quire~ the Federal Trade C~mml~ion to transmtt a repoIt to the congres~ not later than 18 months after the effective date of this act as to the cff~tivene~ of the cigarette labeling; second, the cur- rent practices and methods of cLgarette advertising and proreotion; and third, balch recommendatiolLs for legislation a~ it may deem appropriate, Mr. Chairman, I suggest to~the Mem- bers that since we have heard quite a bit of talk with regard to tile efIor~ of those in favor of this act to have further medical research made and ~t~r ther funeLs appropriated for that purpose, it Is In- cumbent on u*, I believe, to change the length of time that thl~ biU Will be on
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Ju~ 18, 1969 Mr. MO~. Mr. C~ndn~n. X offer an ~mendm0nt. The ~erk read e~ f ol]ov~: Amendment off.red by Mr. M~: On ~%~ 3. line ?, I~mCdlate]y before the len~olon i~e~ "~d in any ¢l~et te ~dvertleeme~t or promotlOn~ ma+~ri~". (Mr. MOSS asked and We~ glv0ll i~gr- zni~lon to levlse and extend hl~ re- inarks.) Mr. MOSS. Mr. ~alrm~n. ~e amend- m0nt before Foil now J~ ]~ ev0ry ~ense the most lmporl~l~ which will be offel~d to thl~ legislation. I point out that the commltLee h~ ad0ptcd, as did the Con- ~rec~. e. label wh$ch makes a JlndL~g ~lat the u~e of cigai~ette~ LS d~gero~ to your health, and that label is pro- pOeed to be vleCed upon the package of eJga~t~s bet ~p0n no Other media o~ advertl$111g or Co~r~tP~.~ing ~ a u~r o~ ~ prospective u~er. If It is a fact~-~nd ~t appears TO be ~e consensus here--th~ the u~ o~ eiga~t~s is dan~ero~ to health, t~en It Is ~ fl~l conviction ~bat a responsible c~mmitt~ wll[ re~re ~hat notice be contained in eve~ single sxivertlSemen~ Or promoflonM Offering brought t~ the attention of the American public. The~ are literally th0~Sends of radio and ~le- ~sh)n Co~merc]a]$ evez~ d~.y, ~nd there ~ m~ny page~ of attractive ads in every media of e~mmunlcatt0ns in this country every day. They are brought f0reefol]y to the att~Dt~on of ~e y01~lg ~Pn 8nd W0~e~ of ~ls Coun~r Who have not Fet sL~rLed t~ u~ eigaretCes. I am pe~c~t]y willing to wrl~ off ~b0se Who h~ve ~h~sdy be('~m e ~h~ ~sve of f~ smoking habit¸ But ~[ am most anxiou~ th~t we do all ~Lhtn our power and all appropriate in ~c exercise of g0w~l* men~l power ~ ~ert Sl~e~C0dl~g gener- ations to J~e Yact th~ they ahould not take ~hat first ~Lep, that ]t i~ dangerous for them to do so, and this amendment would r~ulre that that war~ng be placed on every adverL]sement made¸ It does not act in prejudice to one media as opposed to the Other. It treata all of ~em alike, and I think ~mt any o~er body whSeh had the overwhelming evidence of ~dveree lmp~t upon health Would be required TO be labeled. I know ell the pleas that arc going to be made that thL~ is finally going to in- Jure the mn~l ~obaogo far,mr. You ~uld be surprl~d the burden the mnall ~ObRC~O ~lT~ er h~s berl~ in [he~ hear- lugs. YO~ wo~]d fo~et, ~f FOL~ were to be present or to review the testimony. that the ~mall tObacCo f~rmer has not been as visible at any time as the very large and influenti~ and p0werf~l To- bacco Institute. "l~e Members WJ]l be to]x] about the t~s[]mony Of dLstlngul~hed members of tho modlCal ¢omnlu~Ly before the corn- hilt ~and every one of them ~ffho C~ and I~stlfied Contl~ry [o the c~ear con- ~ct[o~ Of the m~orl~ of organized nlc~l¢lne eRrne there uuder t]l~ ~ponsor- ~hlp of the 'Z~l~ceo Institute. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- HOUSE to llfform a~d pro~e~t She American non. miming public? I think the latter l~ by far the more worthy objective of this ConU~ttee ~- day. 1 hope the Members will ~opt t~$~ amendment and live ~0 to their respon- • lbillt Jes. Mr, WATSON, Mr. Chairman, I rise hl Oppoeit]o~ to the amendment. Mr Chairman, ~t Is true, as my friend the ~itl~man ~¢ro~ Cedlf0rnla sald, that perhaps this ~trlkes at the ver~ heart of the pl"Obl~l~l We @,re wrestling with, n~a~Co IV whether or not we shall r~u~re the ~dvey~i~D~en ts to ~ICl~de the S~e war'- Jug as we wou~d have mandatorily plaid on the pack ~ge of cigarettes. Mr. Chairman, I think there are at least thee compelling reasons for LO reject (h~ amendment. First, what other legally manufactured product in the United s~es is required to advertise that their prod~et Js no good and the product might YJ]I a user? That is NO. 1. If It le legal b~ manulaeture file product it ~s ]ega] to e~lver tJse It. If We are r~al]y ~nc~z~ 8d with the life ~nd he81th Of 0~r C]~s th~n what about the tbou~nds upon thou~and~ who die in automobile accidents as a result of people driving under the influenee of alcohol? AS a mater 0| fact. t~tl~on'¢ before our committee wa~ that in 40 per- ee~t of the ca~e$ ~,rhere the ¢onditlor~ of the driver win, dete~iaed, the drivers were ~ound to be driving U~der the In- Euenee of 8tco~o] Assuming those Who O~l~0$e cigao ret~e~ and many of them are In favor of outlawing clga~tt~s altogether, but ~ppO~ing everything they contend 1~ tree, 'd~at it cause~ lung cancer and it causes e~npha&ema, and ]t e~se$ fallen arehe~, end all the rest o~ lt~-the indi- vidual who does smoke brings harm only to himself, But wh~t about those Who drink beer and other alcoholic beverages and then get OUt on the highway behind the Wheel of a ear? They not only injure or kill themselves but kilt or injure hi. noaent people. Is there any clamor to bar them or to ben advertising as far aa 0~e intoxieethlg beverege~ are concel~ed? I~t tls be fair ebo~t the proposition. Mr TEAG TTE of California, Mr. ChMr- man, will the gentleman yield? Mr. WATSON. I yield %o the gentle- man from CeHforma. Mr TEAOUE of California. Mr. Chair- ma~ /l~, dc~tor te~s me I ~ave a cho- lesterol problem. AS a result, I should not consurde eggs or milk or ~ce clealn Or b~c~n or dalI~ pz~due(6. ~o I era ton- firming the point the gentleman Js mak* lng Why ehotlld not these prod~ct~ [lave the r,~me label on them as to their danger? Mr. WATSOn. Tbe gentleman flora C~lifornlg, is c~rre~t Where do We StOp~ If we b~gtn here, then we ~Den pandora's box and we have to treat other prob- eros exactly alike. "Fne ~ond reason, ~lde from being unfair a~d an abridgement oi free speech, it is a totally Impractical H 4943 a ~alem," t~nd then ~mledi~lely h~ve the~ ~y, '~]~e SUrgeon Oeneral has de= te ~I~ed that eigaret~ ~nok~g ~ dan. gore,s to ~onr heath ~nd m~v ~,~ lung ¢~ncer or ot~er ~,,? IS that what you p~po~ the ln~u~tr~ d~ -~nd more time degrading l~ proluct thaU trying to sell it? I~t ~ b~ practical Even the Chairman of the Federal C~h'nm~nlc~tion~ C~mmlr~sion hin~elf ~t~ted before the committee that If we pt~ this ~nlendolent for all lnten~s and purpose~ we are barring the ~vertisln~ of any etg~ret~s What company is go- ing ~ pay to have ~n e, dvertl~eme~t which W0UId tell the American peopl¢~ "My prOdUCt will kill you"? ~l~.lly a~d m~t important, in my Opinion, this amendment IS not neces- sary, Even Dr, D~niel Horn, the head of the ~tio~al Clearinghouse for Smok- ing and HC~]th, Pl]b][¢ ~le~th ~ervlee, 5ta~ed bOth in New York and before our committee that we cOuld shout from the rooftops, "smoking ]s harmfuL" and wnUld not be ~e]]lng ~nybody anything that lhey did not know. ]f Mernbers are S+All in doubt, there wa~ a survey t~ken JUne 9 by the Public H~alth Servic~ They a~ked people about tlxts ve~T question The ~urvey revealed that ~0 percent of tho~e who le6ponded said they were aware of the faet that a/llokizlg p@l]la~s may be hazsrdDus to health, yea, my friends, thls is the crUelal question. DO you want to single out thls Industry for d~[l~lina[or~ punishment while beer, wine and other producc~s can continue on their merry way? Treat all alike in the lnter~t of f a]r nez~ Let me plead ~th you Reject this amendment, It is absolutely unneces- sary. Mr ADAMS Mr. Chairman, 1 rl~e in Supl~rt of the alnendn~ent. Thl~ amendment would allow th~ ad- vertising of cigarettes to be handled as other products are handled :[ believe the House shc~lld realize that ~,hat is done with eigareti¢~ is unique when compared to any othe~ pro~]uet in America The gentleman mentioned eggs, but- tar, milk, a~d s~mllar items They have a redeeming fe~tu re to them, in that peo- ple have to eat them in o:der to live, There is no known redcenling feature to oigarett~*s, and ~ do not know of any- body ~ ho came before the comm~Ltee who said one either had to have them to live or that they were good for a person I hope that some of the Members will have the opl>~rtunity to feted the hear- Jngs which took place lust week, The code authority of the broadcasting indus~r~-- a~d th~s ec4ne$ floln memoranda, zlot testimony of the withes~es but menlo- randm--~xarrdned the problem and said this: Cigarette Adwrtlseng OuJdelJnes SH "SH" S~ands for Mr, Helfl.~ch-- opiulor~ed l~at th~ curient policy e4 the ~ub~rlber cle~yanc~ off¢~ ~ servit~g ~o I t~a]d Fes~rday I~h8~ We had a basle requirement, weaken ~he ¢~US$ ~f clge4"~ ~V~r?*~I~ t~]f-regulation t~me ot t~e current a~*d QIle~tlon ~o r~olv~ hel~ ~y: ~ th]~ ~lDpo~e ~he~ ~ o~l]y ~ s~ ~,ttl]ounceo p~p~sed AmerJ~ T~baoo~ ~ercl~a label deaigned o~ly to protoot bhe lndl~- ment of 15 ~onds or ~o duration, What were noted t~ report ot Nov¢~aber 21 mc~t. try ~gain~t ~ablli~y ~use Of ~3ae wouh~ yo~ do? Wolfld you have ~ eo~l- ing with Au~erlcan Toby) ~ e*a~pl~ nature Of their prods, Or ~ it deigned party ~$,y, "I Would WMk B nd[e to smoke th~ er~lon %here Is t~klng place la vtrm~
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June 18, 1969 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--HOUSE H4947 the ~earings In ex~nso, but if Mere- Wc bavc ~. code which the National ~ype to an ad~uinis(ratlv¢ agency, over bets Wl]l refer to page 239 vf tlle hear- lngs of June 10, they Hill find this ]an= gu~ge appearing ~n the confidentfftl nlemorandttTn of the Nat[o~.l ASS0CI~.- tlon of Broadcasters; I)lmculty Ln cigarette edvertlslng Is ~bat ¢oll~merc~Ms which ]~avc sn impact ~pon an adult can ~ot be a~ur~ed l~ lear© unaf- ~ctcd • young v~ew~¢. ~moker ~r otherwise Tile code authority Itself. o1~ pag~ 168 ~lld pa~e 169 oJ[ the ~,fft~ hearing to which I have al]uded, pointed out the dim~lty o[ enforcing Its own regula- tions I~dCCd. i~ the appearaIIc~ tllat Ass~[atJorL o~ Broadcasters has ad- mitted is so ineffective that a number of Its hlg|l onlcla]s have s~lgge~ted the code ~Althorl(y be ~boll~hed ~,n~l that lt.~ functions b~ tral~sferred t~, another agellcy. We have advertising WhiCh Is veI~ clearly dh'ected to ~h~ young people of this 1NatUre, ~t ti~e~ &rid hollrs and on progrRms arid through a~ ~ppeallng cent ent wlllch would Ii~t/llene~ ollr yolln~ people ~ smoke cigarettes a~d t~ke ~p i~he habit I say that one slgnlflcant stride this tills Rgency ~lade before oxlr cor~mltLt~e, ~IOUS~ CR~ L~ke today is to ado!gt an it w~s forced to ~dln[t that on 0n]y amendment Which w~ll prote~t young two ccc~s]ons h~d it been able to take. people from this kind of advertisement. steps or had 1~ taken ~teps to act t~galnst WC have n high duty to ass~e that the ~lgarette advertising which might have regulatory agezlcie~ c]~argcd with re- an undue apPC~ to yo~g persons. It spolls~bi]lty v~ regulating ~r0~deasting Is admitted by the code auth0rRy that 01e :NAB code 18 ineffective lll regul ati~g ~dyertl~[ng [o Iprotect tile ~oollg. II we reler to the same h('arings, on page 150, we will have tJnc do~Urnen~ el the cod~ authority on September 12, 1967--and let nl~ remind this bo)~dy that nothing h~$ }~sppened in the J~f~llm to change I~te truth or the halpaet of tills col~n~ent--~ ~d we find tl~erein & d[e¢~$- slon at some length el the implle~tions o~ cigarette aclverbis[ng g~[d~lhle~, and the~e word~ ~ppear; ~e adult world ~eplcted in clgarett~ ~- ~rtJ~ng very o~ez~ ~s • world to whic~ ~he ~dole~ee~ ¢ ~pJre~ The cowboy ~nd the st¢cl- workvr ~c ~y~b01~ of a m~t~r¢ i~a~e~l~lty bowar<~e w~lc~ he ~trlveS I~iV~la¢lty. ~m~n- ~1~ astac~me~t a~d eucce~s arv ~so ~ery ~esirable ~t~lbUte~ T~ ¢1~ ~'oung p~n, s~okll~g may r~a~ily s~ern to be ~ t roper t~ step thet he~ps ~ran~ccn~ this growlh from ~d~le~e~z~e~ to m~lurity. The funetlo~ of this amendnle~ is not to hlJure the industry. The ft~c~ion el" tills an~endn~en~ is ])e~hap~ to save the h]d~s[ry ~l~)~ lnore grievou$ action ~t a later time. It is very plain that when all U~du~try Jumps it.s adve~tl~ng Item $200 million to $~00 In'Ilion a year beeaus~ vf ~l~e re- quLrenlent~ ¢~f th~ FCC with re~ard to antismekJng ad~rertlsements which ap- pear ~ telcv[slon~ it Ls eoneel~ecl and it J$ i~tueh coneell~etl ab~u~ t]l~ p~rl~uu- tlol~ of the malke~ to which It appvalv. It is very p]ahl, I would ~ay to Ina~y of nly co]]¢agues here, Jf they but look at the adveI~lseme~ts which ~ppear on television, they $411 ~ee with clarity that the advert~sing o~ ~.he cigarette I~du~try ~ppe~ls lo ~lle ~Olll~g pets011. I a~sure my ool)eagues I will not ~ffer ~ubseq~ent amendments, ~nd It Js not lay pu13~ose to offer ~ an~endment which ~vlll d¢~troy the cigarette industry. It I~ 21ty hope this arnendnlei~ w[]l carry and tha~ It wtl] sel~,e ~he publio interes~ by prevclltlng adl erLislilg which will ]ui~ yo~!l~g pco]~le tow [~rd tile clgaret I~ habit, l~et i1~ clisetl~s for a m ~lll t~n t the ~ltil~- ticn in wl~lch we final ourselv¢~ I do ~ot s~ to rescale t}lose alrct~d~v ~tnoklng from tile frolt~ Of their folly¸ I seek on]¥ to ~e~ to It that young persons wl~o ~re i)altlcu]arly vulnerable and subject to the ln~quenee of (11~ ~ ar~ proteoted ~*g~h~s¢ advei[Islng wl~l~h would be dlrevtod to th~, take all reasonable and proper steps to protect young peaple Mal~ In this body would seek Io pro- te~t yollllg people from pol~ography ~1~ that sort ~ publ[catior~ I S~y that for ~he h~alti~l ~n¢l wellar¢ of the yo~lng ped- dle adve~lslng which '~,ot lld lt~duee them to sllloke is 've~ little different In total eff~e~ or~ the II~dtvldu~l from s~laelous material. One leads to degradatic~n of spirit, ~h~ other l~ad~ ~ the most utter l~eMth r~ril. ~o I ~y there I.~ an opI~orlunRy before this body today, we c~ln adopt at* itmendr~¢nt which will ~ot ~[) adver- ~i~n~. which will no~ prevent Rdveltls- lng in any other lnedia, bttt Whlch Will tak~ '~h¢ significant stride forward Of f~sllrlng tha~ dllrJtlg ho~lrs whell yollng p~ple w~ ~iI to~evl~lell a~d on pr ogr~ll~ whtch young peopl~ Watch with partlcu* la~ lnt~r~s~ and particular ~ppeal that adver'u[sing Of ~lg~rett~s will n0~ ~l~l)~ar, ~o that th~ young pe01~l~ Of this Nation will be prolecte4 from ad~ction to clgaret tee. MI¸. lllgOyltILl[o o~ l'lorlll CaIollna, Mr. Chairman, I r~e in opp~sltlo~ t~ the ail~er~dm~nt Mr. ~halrl~181~, I Ilrg~ that this aine]ld~ rnel~ be reJ~l~d. The alnclldmen~ offe~,ed by my friend from Michigan • ~,ou]d gran~, I believe, to the l~eder0*[ Cornm~lntc~tlor~ Conln~[~lc*rt ~ome very broa(l ~l~d eweep[ilg pr~wer~ which ~l~ tmpIe~ed~[l~d. First, I should like I/o ImlIl~ out that the Cl~alrlnal~ o~ ~l~e Federal Con~rt~unl- calloils ~inml~.~lon, in hearl~g~ b~or~ the Cor~mittev on Inl~rstat¢ ~]~d For- e]gn Co~mei~e dll~l~g his t~imo)ly ~e= foy~ put con~m[~t~, exp~e~ed l~is op~ p~sition to proVlglons of this type. He ~ta~ed at th~,t ti~e that I~ ~ou]d be lr~. pl~ctiea] 'u0 enfor¢~ them, lte te~t[fle,:l ~hat l~l~l~tlor~ Of tills type world be ¢~reln~ly difficult ~ &~lm[nister. It Js shl~ply ir~pl~cti¢~l, I believe, lt~ view o~ ~ho listening anal viewJng habits of the American p~l bile ~ecor*d, Mr. Chairman, I should like to point ollt, as ~ the t~tnendment of- fered b,~ the genllcl~lln fror~ MIchigan, hOW would on~ d¢~rm[ne wight a slg- Isifle~n~ iludien~ ~j or wl~a£ Is ~ sllb~ st~ntlf~l number of vlewe~'s? Woulrl that by I~ percept of the viewing a~diel~ce? Or 10 ~reent? Or 75 per~llt? We ~,~r- t, al/lly should no~ ¢le]eg~te ~wer Of thl~ such a tlernendeusly llnport~nt subJ~t as this Third, I wott]d point out to the Meal. I~rs ~hat we should not be un[ler ~IW ll]uslon as to tile result w~lch won]d follow iI such an amendment wcrl~ adopted¸ AS a l~c~ic~l matter, it wo'ald lead ]~lolnptly to the eliminatir, n of f~l] cigarette aiIver [i~ing over r~dio and t~le. ViSion The Conlnlls~lon 11~ ~]re~dy made its Jr~tenl!on el~ar ~t has ~*l~r~oul~ced i~ I~ro~ posed rule to bar II1] cigarette advertising ~ronl radio alld television ~ do Ilot know of aIly valid ba~ls f~r prohibiting ~deel~is]ng oI a proiluet which may lawI'ully be manulacture~l and sold Fir~ally, I ask this question: On what rational ~a~!s can we limit thJ~ grRnt of ~urisd]ctlor~ to eigaret~ ildvertJs]ng aloI~e? It ll~s I~en r~Jtl~d out in the deba~l! here lh~lt thor0 ~r~ mat~y o~h~l~ produe~ ~]]egc~l to I~ hazsrdou~ The Crffllml~lon Is now t~ b~ given the authority to prohibit thl" ~dv~][iein~ of every pr~dllet ~ h]ch ~me g~onp c]ldms to be haza]dous I ~uggest that this anl~ndrnent ,,~ dill [I o])e~ a p~ndora'~ br,~ and It ~]lould be defeated. ~I~¸ BOB WIL~ON. Mr. Chairman, will th~ ge!ltlelnan y]eld~ Mr Br~OYHILL o1" North Car~lina. ! yield to ~,he 8el~t]~mat~. Mr BOB WILSON. I ~ll[nk tile gen~le~ lllar~ ]~85 i~ado ~n Oll~$tandJng st a tel~lent. l wcJU]d like to asso¢ls~e Iny~e]f with Ills ren~a~ks, C[gal ¢~CS ~sid¢ ~or th8 nlo]l]~l/t, le~ 118 ~xanlhle t]l~ Jll/l>act oll ~dver~Jshlg In the abstract l.~lr~. 8 product ',X,, l~as been attacked ~ Oovernment and private grl)ups 88 ~ health hazard ~eeotld, tt reglllatory agerley I~R$ de= ¢]dcd that. therefore, It~ "authority to act is reany a dtlty to act¸" The patt~:rn is quite simple, even tilou~ll tile pr0b]~,nl is complex¸ A stimU- IllS. In this ease geveAi3ment and private ¢]larges~ Js ~ellowed by a ~"es~r~se, the action of a regulatory agency Notice tha~ Cong rer~ [~ nea~]y shor~Ircult~d--aiid so [~ the ~ssulnption of lrlntmt~llee until pl oven guilty On this ~im]~]e Jtleth3~atiol~--and de~ spite the FC(~ discl~lhner~--other pl,odu~t ~lv¢~t~slng ~o~lld ~o ~he Way o~ e[g~lre~tes ~i¸ example: Butter, nlargaline, cooking oils, milk and d~ry pJ'ed~cts contain Cholesterol; fleer an~ wi~e l~e al eoh 01ic b~ve~ age~: IS~t drinks ¢~t/t~[n slight or ar~ifieigl Tootllr)as~e and denigrates eorltalll ~ouride~ Alltom~,bi]e$ have been Called unsafe at ~.ny speed: and Air travel ]1~ b~er~ ttnde~ ~t~k as ~ ha~arll On the basis of this kind 0f reaching, the ~lippl~ the "~ppl~, and ~'ne war re° sist~els have nll~-,ed a goe~l bet l~r they ~u~d logically argue that the ~ shotlld ban Armed Forces reerll[~en~ ~ommel~o ~[~]s [i~lii teic~slen, bel~a i~ wRr is Ilaz~ ardous t,u your health. You will, of c~urse, under~l~nd that I ~.m e~ggero, ting to m~ ~ l~lrl ~. How- j
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114948 CONGKES$|ONAL I~iCOKD~--HOUSE J~ 18, 1869 not thst I either favor or Oppose the &~end[tle~.t, bcca.J~e I t]~[ thO Kmend- 1~I¢~D.% ~11~I¥ D~lla t,3 o~krv~ ~)ttt ~Jl, are~ of authority in the FCC which the already h~, It e/~ hw addltlonal &t~thortty to b~.n v.dvert~slng altogether, :It is q~te ¢le~r. I believe, that the pro- V'~10Vs in the t~iU conts.hlvd in s~tion 5(b) sp~iflegily st~tte %b~ only prce~p- tlor~ wl~h re~p~,t to advert/~ing whlch ~s contai,ed in this law. The precx~ptlon contah~ed therein slml)]F s~.vs the*% r~o 8tatern~n ~ rolating to smoklng and he~)th shall be required in the adve~slng of any cigarett~ tI|e pack 9.ge~ of wDi~h ~re ¢4 this ~ot, Thus the preemption ~cction only pr~ek%pts the field of labd[ng and the field Of co[tirol of ~ntorual oont~nt #.4vet~t~Ln.~, The ~.~1~te~tdmea~ of the gen%|en~.1 fro~ Cz*llfo~ (Mr, Moss) W~ nece~ry if tho~ pr0v~[Qt18 W~re to be 6hanged. bevau~e the gentleman'a amendment $ald thai; th~ Cor~rni&s$cYa ~hou]d be perndtted to regulate the in. tern~.l contour of advertls~ng+ However, th~ ame~dmet%t ¢)ffered here pta~£.or t~ to go into a field which the Coron]i~slon h~ not presently preempted. Tha~ is the resaor~ wh~ I c~not ~rgtle e4 t~h er in favor of or ~gal~t tl~e am~(Lment, b~u~e I think the amendment simply gives to co~tsined Jn a larger ~tt~hol~.~y to pro. hlb[L adverUalng a]~gether. I should llke to volnt 0ut thee. a~ I ~lon is not restrleted Irt the field o~ pro- hlbiting s~ivertlslng uuder this ~ct. I thlnk this is the tem~hing ~f the Bsnz- ~m.se I think 11: i~ r~ognlzed in the report ~.nd It h~ been r~gv/z~l by every 18.wyer who h~ been engaged in the sub)cc~ ma~er with wl~om I h~ve con- ~t~ted, They all s~v the lemguage of the act upon It~ f~ee af/ords rm Impedhnent to the Commission's b~nn[ng c~g~re~t,e ~.dvertistng entircly~ I~ 18 sv.id on page $ of the report: ~n ~ue~t~ ef ~* tm~ on ctg~ett~ bdver- ¢i~r~g Is ~ t.r~ted in %h~ F0den%t Otg~- re~te I~%b~i~ng a~ Advert~Ing Act It t$ faLr to ~y that th~ ~ongrees lln*[te({ ~ proht- ~tt~B in the ~t %o s~ato*1~ent~ re%~ing to *mokl~ and h~Ith b~'~use Lt WIns ~ot though% that an~" ~ttempt W~Uld be m~de i.~ b~m ~t,,Ch ~dver tl~lug The bi~tezne~t after "Dec~*%l~e" i~ ~*me- what gratultotuk It is not certaln why Congress limP~d Its proldbRlo*~, but it is clear that It did do ~. The reference is, of cottrse, to the 1985 act, but the present a~t contains Identical lang~tv~e in ~cctlon 5 (b). The Coram[~ion may rese~ dLffercnt~.v than the chain*lazt or It may change It~ l~llnd when the S~reB1e Cotu~ v.el~ on the ~n~haf case, I do not think th~ Is the kind ~ thing ~hat Congro~ ~hould ever, I do no', i~thtk I maw be ex ~*ggar at- ing by vel7 much. Cc~inl.v. l~ is" no Ing in4u~try h~ ~ ~t d~l to lo~e by th~ overreach Of t~8 I~CC, yot~ Wolfld do well to Join with the IndUSW~es which ~ be r~re ~bxe~tened at pre~e~t: for the FCC is making a wave th~ c~uld scan e *~'ulf F f*tl. I c2~n ~.~ure you that t~e p~per p]m~e to de~ide this verY import, SilL matte~ J~ in C~ng ~&S ~d through the es~bllthed mC~h v, nlsat Of h e,%rlngs ~id de0~te I c~m slsc, s.~ure you that It 18 my Intentlou %o ~oe that Congre~ is no~ byp~e~. TOO much I~ at s~ke 1~r the ~Iga~et~e industry, th¢~ broadcasting industry, t~he adver thdng h~d~stry~d for the Amerl- oan pe~plo bnd ot~" ~orr~t of gove~¢rt t~ MY. BROyHH~L of Norbh Caro]In~ I th~nk the gen0emem. Mr, ~. ~. CT~irnm~ wl]l the gv~t/eman gield? ~r. Bp.oyIIILL of North C~rollns, I ~]d to the g~itle~ms, n from Texas, Mr. ~. Y~rill the gentleman poinL c~t to r~e any pmvl~Ion in th~ bill w/dell pr~Dlbit~ the FC~ now from re~ t rictln~ adver rising ? ~, BROY~ of Nor~t C~,rOllP,~. The Ch~h~ ol the ~ ~,iteede~ point Jr* tJ~e he~rt~gs, I thivk the gontle- msn is aw~.re of that. Mr. EC'KIIAP.DT. Since wh~ do we m~ep~ thv ~ ~4 %t-e FCC ~ ~ sttorn¢¥? Mr. BR~*Y~IILI. ¢,f North Car0//D~. Thi~ ws~ the statement made Jn qult~ • . ht~ of ~a~tt~ Ln the ~)~t~ee, I th[uk the eon~mlttee as well ~ the C~-nm[~ton lbSelf e~a*o~ not onlF the p~t ~*. b0t also thls bill I Leelf proh iblt~ ]~CC from moving into this field, It h~ beam e~t~.blished for q~te some time. Mr, ECI~IARDT, Will the g¢~flemsm yle~d tur the~? Mx. BBOy/~LL of No*%h Caro]h~a, Mr. ~DT, The statement of pr~e~nption in ~tlon 5(b) ~y~ tt~tL r*o statement relatlng to smoking or heath ~h~ll he requ~re~, tn "~.~ ~ve~h%g s,hy clgarettes the p~u3kag~ of which gre ]~.bcled in conformity With the m~t. I do not ~e any thivg in that language which prohibits amyLhing talt the activity s0UZh% to be permltled by the arnend- melt~ b~d~d by the g6-~er~8.~ frOt~ Califor~l~ (Mr. Moss), ~ ~uinly not ~lat SCtlvity s0ugh% to be permitted by the amendment offel~d by the gel]~le/]l~*,] from Mb~h~ (Mr, D~G~LL), Mr. BROYHILL of North C&~>lln~. I WIH be glv~ to have the gentleman t~ke l~Is own time ~ a mmnber of the co~unith~e to argue whatever point he w~t~, but IL W~ e~t~blishcd, I believe, not on)y ht t~le he~rln~s, but the Cvm- leave in the air as a policy matter. It ts ~/~,~ ha~, Ve]T definitely ~ that ofpar~mountl~i~port~nee, M¢,C~a)rman, they we~ pr~e~tpted fn~m entering into that tl~ere be no muddying of the s~ream this field ~ wer@ ~h~g to nm~c [nb0 It ~ a result ~ a CC4~mfls~l~n rep~r~ only ftfte~ t~ v~t expired. It.proposed ch~ir~lan's views, or a ~mxxv:ittee rop0rt. t~ rtfl~, b~L t~e~' were ~v~% g~2.~ %o %Ve sh~$6 n~ be att~vt*%D~l~g %o wak~ te.k~ ~ flr~J action ut*Ul afte~ th]~ ~t law by ¢0w, mlttee rvp0rt, l~tdeed, as a expirvd matt~l. 0f fact. the committee repot t sub- Mr. ECKHARDT, I~r. CheJrmsn, I atontl~ly sup~rt~ the proposition that m0ve to~trike Lliela~'ord. ~ ~.c~ do~ ~ot ttt ~¥ way t~Ch the ][ Woldd like to take nly time on the quc~tl0n ofprohibltingorpreventlng v~- propo~ltio~ rgised by t~[s ~le~etme~t, verM~ng, W I hstve poi~ted out. It seems to me th~.t we arc simply ~gh~|ng et baStle In a lleld wldch is not bguched by the act, is ao~ to~ched ~y the revert, and ~hloh is in th~ face of all ~9onslblv cour~ d~isloils up to the presel~t tlr~e. The CHAIP~JAN. The question i~ on the amendment Offered by the ~en$[oHlan from MlchigPal (Mn 1:)~I¢~ ~ ), The qLl~tlo~l w~ ~ker~; ~nd oxl d]vJ~on (dematlded by Iv[r. DI~QEI.L) there were aye~ 35, n0e~ 59+ SO t'fle am endm~nt Wat~ r e~ ecl~d. Mr. VAN DEI~[~LIN. ~e. ~llalZl~aR, I offer ~ amendvlent. Tile Olerk r~ ~ ]o]l~ws: Amendment of~eeed by ~x. V~ D~Lt~ ~a p~ 4, I1~ ]~. ln~0r t after tbe period th~ clg~tt~ ~kage h~v~ ~or~ th¢*ll one side, ~ueh at~teme~% ~haH b~ plac~d o~ th* two Widest eld~ ol Such p~kag~'* (Mr. VAN DEERLIN aSked and was gL~ parl~d.~b~tt ~ ~eviae and extend re~ark~.) Mr. VAN DE~RLIN. h~[r. ChaL~natl, at this point in the debate I feel a little bit like a l~ew p$~*y~r c~ratng htto t~e game in the third q~arter wl~e~ t]h~ ~orv is slready 21 to 0 against him, I have B trice, clev~ Jer~y, b~t~ I do no~ ~va like]F to alt~r the cour6e o~ t]~e g~tme very r~lt(~hml~n~ea~ y011 are StY1 p~e. pared to ILsten to a little logic. do l~ot like to ~ my ¢&bb~ge twice, end I was Up he~ yesterday talk- Lng ab~u% ~ha% ~ pr~ba~y ~ohag ~o happen on the Se~ate t~[de. I thhtk this is l~lp~rtant, to those of yotl Who feel that bY beati~g back araendment~ .to thL~ bttt, ¥~tt P.re perfQrmittg ~ ~ervice for Doltl~one. I do not believe there Is gol~.g to be very much time whe~ thL~ bill gets to the senate. AS a matter 0:[ fact. in 12 d~y$ ~rld ~ few h0Gr~ ~rO~l TIOW ~he pre~ent cigarette labeling l~tw will ex- pire. I~ pa-~es into ltrabo as of midnight o~ June ~0. The LLS. Senate wm ~3t upon legi~atlo~ brou~t to It trora the ~enate C*omml~tee oI~ Commerce. IL Jt~t could be tha% 6here will be nothing On which the Sengi~ may proceed. ~t is pos- sible ~a~ the ~l~ in %h~ t~% the% ~¢ ~eem likely to ~end over after t~day~ action will be tulacccpCable to the Sen- ate lev.dershlp. FAther through l~acL[on c~ ~h~tgh t.he 6.~[~e of the fll~btl~er) It ~eenlS po~lble there will be n~ enact- me~t. ther~ will be noLhing for the pr~- lde~t t~ sign. ~nd the ~gencies ~f Oov- ernme;]L whom YO~ ~eek to forestall Will be free t~ do their wUl. Mr. Chairman, the ameztdzneztt ~hat Z propose addre~s It,ll llot to the ques- tion of advertising at $]1. It le~vea our aro& Of ¢o~lcerzl $~rJc~ly to w~i~ aDpea/'a on the package. Bt~t th~ law tha~ we paSSed in 19~5--~S the Members know. those M~rfiber$ Who ¢~12 ~ak~ a p~k~ge o! ¢lgar~es ~r~rn their pockeL~L~ the ]abe] on the narrow side of ~he pack. or car to~l. next to the copyright, snd al- most lost from displaying the warning which ~v~ ha~e ~ ~ ~rellgthell. If we leave i~ on th~.t sanle panel, thtet thin zlde. it will noL be seen as the pack lies on the tabIe or on the display coun- ter~ ~nd We wilJ not be doing the Job that the wg.rnhlg ]abe~ is lntonded to do. which is to w~r~.
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H 4952 CONGKESSIONAL RECORD--HOUSE Ju~ ]8, 1969 ]~[r. L~J~l~t,% the rea~ for n~v oppo- sition to the amendment l~ that it is wRh- out ~ ~at~i¢ fo~tnds~ion or Jp,~L~I* c~lo% e~ I e~m fe~x tu] the~ Jf ~e r~'~ to ~ dev~ee ~ are not goJ~ to en- Hffht~n people, but rat3~er we will de- ceive the~. 1964 the ~n C~ere]~ ccm- r,~Jttee ~de a finding that ~¢o~e did not repr~e~rLt a eJg~L~ce~b health he~o exd. In the ~ before our com. mlt t~e wl~ess~ made it ver~ clear that no new ~ he~ ~ pubU~'~ ~nce 1964, and that t~erc Is no ground for a d Jfferer~t co~e~on. '~e~, eo- call~l, refers to eo~e 2,000 co~ponen~ in c~e~et~ emoke w~l~ are nornml]y Iound L~ the smoke of any em~.~Le~c~, and ~ are ~om~d in tradeable quanLlflea. In 196~ t~e ~reLa~,T ~ ~ opl~cl the list- ing of tar e~ylng that it we.~ ml~ee~n~, I mLght point o~lt here, Mr. ~e.Lnrne~, that there 1~ ~o L~fl~l~lt¥ in the ~n- t~t Of ~obacco~ C~e Czop varies from another. In the early 1950'~ the ~ rP]e~J that the difference in tar eonte~t we~ lp~g- rd~ca~t, e~d U~S wea c~:d~me~ b~ JU~o cia] renew. I believe it is IJ~ere~tL~ to spe~d a moment to review what the ~rc h~e done, In 1955 e~d later in 1960 they l~r. PUCL~SK~, Arid w~rn him ~ the he~ar ds, ~md at the ~me ~t ~me I believe It would make the advertis~g 1t¢~1~ • ~reat ~ev~ more mcaningfv]. Mr. ADAM~, ~ believe it wotfld. It abe solutely giv~ more l~fomlatlon as to ~vh~t a nm~ L~ ge~g hi th~ pro~ct he 1$ g~lng to lntmle. Mr. THOMPSON of Georgia, Mr. Chairman. Would th~ gentlemen yield~ Mr. ADAMS¸ I yield to the gentleman from Oeor gl~, Mr. THOMPSON of Oeor~i~. Mr. Chairman, I ~volfld ask the gentleman this: Supposing one Izackage of ~lgi- rettes indic~te~ that that p~t~ttcl~ar brand h~ • lower nicotine ~te or a h~her tar rat~ than another pw~k~ge? Which would be the better brand~ Mr. ADAMS¸ I would ~.~ to the gen- tleman that that i~ up to the in~vidU~l who Is gein~ to smoke ~hem. He is golDg to h~ve to make ~p hL~ ~[nd ~vhether hc want~ more tax or more rdcotllw. ivfr" - THOM~p~ON Of Oeorgia. Mr. Chairman, if the g~ntleman will yield ftlther, I know that the gentleman has looked into thI~ m~ttcr, and that the gertt]eman is very knowledgeable about the ~u~tter, a~ I would e~k ~he gentle. r~an wha~ ts the average ~ar and nice. tine ~:entent for the ~tver~ge ~[11erican cigarette? Mr. ADAMS. In the average Ame r lear, cigar ette? It depends upon what type of eame Mong wllh gutdeline~ to combat the sc~.le ¥o~ ~s0 L~ terms ~ the r~llltme~er tar.l~lcotL~e derby ~t~th~g from c¢~1. measuremeutofit. Ieannottellthegen. flictlng a~vertiser~ent~ by the d~ere~t tle~.rt What the aver~g9 ODe ~ t~ay, • t~O prc~uce~. perha~ the gentleman ¢~n 8uppl~ the Then fu 196~ they did a complete d~ta torte, flop without any new advar~ement in Mr, THOMPSON o~ Oeorgla. I~ the evidence on this subject and said the~'¸ gentleman wo~d yield further, the point woU~d ~c~ept this kind of a~ver~i~lng I am makine t~ ~lmply this: ~[ a p~r~on wit hour que~tY~n. is knowledgeable, ~ the ~entleman In Therehasb~e~nonewevide~e~Ther~ would ~ ~i~ their ~yc$ to amev~me~t bec~u~, in n~v Judgment, I/ the~e is ~v~vat~n for that industry it ndg~t W~Y Well lie in this amendrd~t. w~z]d compe~ prcd~ tc try to reduce the t~r and nicotine c~ltcnt in their produ~. S~e a~ alrc~ doing Bud ~oh~ It ~e~L Apparently, they have had ~ome src~t ~t~. The po~t I am m~kin~ here Is that by ~.~ ame~t yc~ WOUld bring about gre~e~ dek~-~ Of conlpe~t~on among the ~t~d~cer~ of c~g~re~tes to try to re. duce ~:~e t~r and r~co~ ~n~nt if they ~v~t t~ stay in bu~lne~. If they are 9b- livl~us to t.bc publl~ r~c~on a~d ff they e.rc oblivlol~ to t~e feet that the high c~nt of t~r ~d ntco~e ccn~tt~t~ a r~ h~mrd t~ be~, then t~h~y are n~ goitt~ to stay in bu~ very long. l/re fact that t~ ~ be a p~bit~on ~ai~ cig~re~e ~ve~lsir~ by the va~- o~ mc~a in t~ co~ut~ ought c~r~ te~ly to lOOk at t/ds amendmen~ ~ Jud~lu~rtt, ~ off~ a ~ution~ a workable solution, i would like to ~c~ what h~ppc~ to el~sre~te ~ton and wh~t egcct it ~ on public he~dth whe~ m0~t cig~rct1~ u~c~ wh~ ~ kick the h~tt do have a choice in cl~a- retted. Right ~ much of the a~vertis- When peopi~ bUy c~g~ttes, ~ey are Imp~ by commercl~ but have no Id~ what t~cy are b~l~. I t~ the ~entlem~ ~ offerin~ t~ am~dmcnt is ma~ln~ an b~cet effort here ~.~ t~y to r~o]vo t~ pr0b]~ sud bring some b~l~cc between ~he fact t~ smoking m~ bc he.~ar do~ ~nder ~r;~ln circLm~t~nc~ on Lhe o~ hand, and the fac~ ~t we d~ he.re an ln~ in t;~is cmmtry Lhat nc~ds to be prefaced on the Well is, and who ha~ spent M much time as the gentleman has. and Who is ~u~ arl ~xD~r~ Or, th~ 8~lb~e~, c&m~ot ~D~W~r th~ q~ ~$~lon, hew ~11 We po~bly expect any membr of the public to know any~lng by the ll~ting of the tar ~nd ~lco~inc ¢on~ent, meaning they do not know what is the safe level, and they do Dot know what is tl~e dangorou~ level. If an indLvldual ~tch as the gent]ematl ~n ~c We][ c~nnot answer the Qeu~t~on~ l~ would ~DI the average per~o~ wgu]d ~$o be untie to ~.D~wer the question, Mr, ADAMS. Oh~ this Js very, very aim- l~le. Ther~ i~ no ~.fe level of tar ~nd nicotine, so the individual i~ not going to be s~fe, but any dmumy can go in and lc~k ~ a ~rie~ of cigarettes, com. l~Rre ol~e with the ot~¢r~ ~t~d ~. whether One Is lowe~" [~ tar Or ~ot~e th~ tbe other. believe it Wou]~] b~ moD~tr0t~ If We tried to tell the individual on the p~cko age that thi~ is a safe level, bec~usa we knOW Of I~o 69.~e level. A~ the gentleman poluted out on the question of con~par{x, vn, you w0Kld look at ~ent~, Marlboros, and all the Other brands, and compare them. The C/LkIR~. The Ltme of the cen- I~eman ha~ expired. M~ SATTF, RFII~bD. Mr. L'~ainnav~ I in opposltio~ to the araendme~t. MrL Chairman, this &mer~n~ Wa~ c~are~uUy ~nsidervd in our committee, and wa~ defeated. is no item in ~ Smoke identified the other h~d. a~ causing any dIbea~c O~zr c~mmttte~ Mr. ADAMS. Mr. Cha~rmau. w~dl the quite p~perl~ rejected this amendm~t, genUeman yield~ TO make it ~mndat~ry that there would be included a oo,rbent level of tar arid nicotine would ~ to encourage t~e public to rely upon ~et~ing ~h~ 1~ no ~ou~tloa In fact. In ~n~ It would mlsle~ tile pub]lo into I~lle~g that there l~ ~' in one cigarette over another where, hi f~t. lhet~ 1~ no 'l'~l~ will not I~d to enlightens% Mr. Cha~. ~ Will lead ~ to de~ ~rldence t~" Ju~tt~ ~ls ~endme~t. It Mr. PUCINSNI, Mr, Ct~lr~a. I move ple eVlde~ ~nd ~plo ~reh that has b~n d~e by h~ I~bli~ H~lt~ P¢~lee. the Federl!l Tr~le ~omml~l~, tl~ ~.nd tar content of ,,,~rl~ b~'~d ~,me elgarett~ in ~ ~tmtr~. I believe there is ~ a ~'ong argu- men~ that can be made that eig~.~et~e~ l~'~rlt ~ a lower ~,n~nt of ~" and nl~. ~ are 1~ de.nge~ than eIga~t~ I~ a hl~her e~r~t~at of ~t ~md niche. I wca~l d hope that ot~r e~]l~e~ from Mr. PUC~SKI. I yield to the gentle- Mr. ADAMS. I wo~d llke to ~men~ o11 the Helltlem~11'~ ~,r~ent ~e D~de ~ut .the nl©otine a ]~tt]e earlier. I th~k he wo~d remember ~.d is pr0b- ably aware that d ~rlng the hearin~ the d~¢t~r~ testified that hi.fine, of eotu~, ~s e~tr~¢tlve of the blood ve~els be- tern. ~J~ Other words, It for£es the b]~ p~u~ ~p and re~e~e~ the bl0od pro- cure e~d ~n 1~d to ~ heart e~nd~t~on. • hl~ is wh~t tile Sur~ Oener~l s~ys about ~t: • hJr3, to pro~de the ~n~umer with i~- fo~i~ on th~ tar ~nd ~e~tln¢ lev~ of ht~ r~g~ret~, on the p~ka~e ~n~ in a~ver. t~u~, We believe the ~or~ur~er Im entit]e~ to ~uow th~ ts~ a~d ~ne leve~ o~ his Cigarette. 8[n~ November Of 1967, th~ Fed. ersl "r~ C~m[~on ~ i~ued periodic ~ent and ~]~ble, and ~I t~at re~r~ be done t~ It~ llst~n~ oa pe~1~ge~ and tn advert~Ing~ I~ ~ the view ~ th0 Y~bllc He~Ith Servl~ ~t tb~ ~ ~f~l i~orma~ tto~; that the ~wer theee ~eveI~ ere, th~ le~ "Ynat Is why I ssy, Mr. Chairman, that I wOU~d hope the ]Membe~ WO~]d ~op~r t this ~men~t~ent. Thei~ is ~r~o1~ ~o~eer~ ~ak a~ver. ¢ov~vrnvd about the tobacco lr, du~t~, ti~lng be banned. I t~Ink that ti~ who
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ffune 18, 1969 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--HOUSE H4955 1rue state of the mater Is in ~,he best Forty-eight of the 50 StJtes p~hlbit today plote~ting such FederaI p~mr*~ t~.,ible fashion the sale of cigarettes to minor$, tlm~ It is curious that those who aI~- Mr. Chairl)la~, this l~ a %er~" $[Iflple amendment, Mid I hoPe it will bc adopt- ¢~ It is tb.~ $~rt rJf ~ arae~d~tent that fit~ in with the rest Of ~his bill, sIld I The CHAIRMAN The question Is 01~ the amendment 0ffe~d by the gentl~rdan from Washington (Mr Av^Msl. The questl0n w~s t~ktm~ a~5 o~ ~ flto vlMon (demanded by Mr. AVAMSl there wei~ ayes ~7, noes 59. So the amendment was rejected. A~LNnM~ ~rrF~V ~T ~a ~a~e Mr. ADAMS. Mr, Chairman, I Qffer an ~mel3dment, ~e (~l~rk ~'~ad as fol]ows~ Am¢~dme~t o~ere:i by Mr AB~MS! On page ~, ne ~3, Inser~ slier the per~o~ the following ~W ~enteace: ',Th~ ~ubs~tlon division ther~f, which p~,bJblt~ the Sale of eLgarettes ~ per~3ns b~low ¢~r t~n ~ges, front eequlrl~g ~hat any elgar~tt~ a~vertJ~0ment W~th[n it~ Jurls~letlon s~ fort~ ~he fa¢~ tha~ p0rsons b~]ow ~ert~n ages ar~ prohibited b~ stlch ~tat~ or po)[~c~d subdlViSio~ frol~ pur- c~ ~sing ¢[g~ ett~s." (Mr. ADAMS asked ~ld ~,'a~ given per- r~lss[on to leVl~ and extend his re- rc~tlrks ) Mr ADAMS, Mr, Chalrlnan, th~ L~ the IRS~ a ~ilfl/flen~ a12ou1, W~¢h 1 know ~t~ we h~v¢ to offer. I thought that state. rdent might bling ~ little Joy to ~olr~e of yol~ This is what I refer to as the States rlghW' amendment I ~ougl~t we would s~ve 1~ until last ~>~¢a~se it WOuld h~ve ~he bc~t chalice O~ p~=~l~g. Mr. Ch alrt~an~ this law has b~en con- strutted by m~lly State,--and I have st~Lelnents ~t the table from v~tious state commlssLoner~to prevent them ~gttlatlng advertising within their States. NOW, It hSS beort said ~everal tlme~ d~rJng this debate ~at ~garet~ ~re a l~gal plOdt~et. ] wallt to M~ate clearly to thl~ HOU~ tllat elga~t ~e~ are n~t alegal pr0euct for minors In t8 of the ~0 states. Mr Chalrn~an, in order th~ ~he Meln- b~rs may have some id~t of the severity o| ~ome of the ~tate laws. I Shall refer would read to them for example~--~nd the gentleman fnom Texas (Mr, ECK- H~Wl nlent loned marlhllana and I know nlany of you are very, very ViOlentl~* op- posed tO mal~hu ana--but I want to read to you what tl~e Indlarm ~t~tute s~ys. Tile Indiana statute states a~ follows: It Is unlawlul to give, barter, or sell 01thor ~lrect]y or Jn~[recLly ~ cbHd under ~ to. i)~*~o to b~ chew~ ~r sm~k~. minor eigarot~, clg~ret~ wrapper, ~r ~dv~se arid cvun~l n~nor t~ ~mok¢ U~lla~i~ll tot p~r~on u~der ~] to buy, rc~ (else or accept or haw ~[garet~, ~lg~rette p~p~r, ~rapp~r or paper ~nt~lalng mor- pLi~le, nlcoLIll~, oil oI heI~p. M~. Chairnlan, Jf advertising Is not ad- i,lsing or o~l~l~sellng mhlol~ 1~ l;tn~ke, do not know ~hal it is, For thc,~e of you ~ho are not familiar lth marihuana, marihuatla IS one ¢I the ~¢mp iar~ly and ~ 0overc~ by the de- ¢lsions o~ th~ court It would seem to me that in all fair- ne~s we should at le~t allow States that prahtbtt s~l~ to r~tr*ot-~ to regtll,~t~ aa- ver¢ising wlthlr~ their borders by re- q~Jll~tg that there be a w~rning. ¢veh as they have said In ~he S~t~t~ law, that would say in the advertising, ,.NO one under 1~ Is allowed by 8tare l~w to smoke cigarettes or ~0 h~ve, ¢lgar~t~s" Certainly, iL seems to m~ they otJght be able to say to their young people¸ those who are of a particular age the~e warnings and let the ~tsLe~ decide whether or not they ~re allowed to ~moke and also gay to the adverttM~g people that within cerLahl hour~ within our Stst~ y~u ~hall not advertig~ the sale o~ cigarettes, I think that probably if it were not of the cigarette companies v.oUld be ~n violation of the ~taLe laws wl(h reference to advising, eoullselltlg, aIld ~bet ~hlg ehll- d~eI~ to 8tI~oke. Becs~se Ill the letter I rel~d yesterday In 1 month In 1968 there were 133 bil- lion pr~ll~atiolts of cigarette advertise- ments in tht~ U~lted States, and it aver- aged oot that every teellager ~&w at le~t St 65 commercials it* the month, ~nd ¢ver~ eklld ~tw ~,~, NoW, this Is c~lmulative-~ls is effec- tive This I~ showing theLr parents and other adults smokt~g and indicating to them that it Is a habit that is worth while, ~,Ar. C~lrr~9,n, I have Ll~ eet ~lrl~g tl~e ¢ourl~e olt the day to offer other ~mend- men ¢~ O~her gentlemen on oor side have offel~d amendment* to *it least l~t tile ~CC and the FTC resolute, NOW we are ~aying, ',All right, if you are goh~g to wipe RII of those OUt snd If y01i are not going to let anybody tot~ch it, Bt least allow the Statos that have Slate laws prohlblUr~g the sale to mirrors do some regulating" It is you can require Jr. yOU h~ve it in the Stat~ now, If any o:r the Mettti0ers have littenefl to ~ome of the gasoline adVer- tJtemen~ whet8 they ILlt~ these bingo g~mes, Jt ~ays ',Weir1 where DrohibRed by law,,, The CHAII~MAN Tl~e time of [h ~ gen- tlem~t~ has explrec{. Mr, KC~. Mr. Ch~lrmtLrh I rL~e 1~1 sL!pport of the ~mendrnerlt offered by • ~h~ g~l~k~tn~trt ~rDm "~as'~l~g~r~. qyn~ "preemption" s~ction, section 5 of the bill, is s CUl.lOt~ provlMon It cortt[n~¢s the pre~nt laW which preven~ any Oov0rlLment ~gency, Federal, SL~Le, or local, f I~or~ req~dl~lg llealth warnings in cigarette adver tlsl21g ]ff ena~bed, ~Llon 5 wtl[ continue L~ prohibit t,he l~ederal Trade Cr~n~ifls~J~i~ ~l'Otn reqolrlng health wgaqll~gs in ~ll elguretle adveI'tlslng; it ~qll o~ntinue to Con~mi~-slon froln bannhlg ~igat~tte .~t- vertising On radio and televlslo~ ~nd l~ will emntin~e to prohibit ~h~ St~te~ fror~l exel~ising their authoi~y to leglslet~ '.?ith relpco~ t~ l~al advertsing. It ~ ~ullous tha~ th~e who rush to dele~ ~t at~,~ rlyht~ Rre not on their leer prove of a health warning oft cigarette packages dl~ppl~Ve of a health ~,var~- lnR In auy other form. Recently, I ~,d this question to my ~pport my positiol~ in favor of th~ FCC's proposed ru]ln~ banning all ciga- rette ad~ertisillg on ladio and tel~vi. sto~?'¸ O~ those ,~ho i~ponde6, q5 ~r- ~en~ agree With nly position sltppor~g the FCC'S propose~l ball¸ Seelion 5. if passed, Will leq~ire rac to Loll lily eon~Ll~ tuents ~b~t the Col/gres$ doea not COIl ~lder the I~C to ha~e any ( oI~oetence ot¸ juriNtietton in what is bro~ deast over the allw~vc~ '1~1e Con~Iress has eleated atl agency I~ reglllate those ail~ ayes I/i the ~llblic II/~erest ~nd yet sees fit to relok~ such authority now, and thereby a speelal hlb~t e~ ~hi ixt ger~t ~ly I~ r~ad.e i~l amoral to the public's interest This is a ellliou~ way to leg[slate a~d 2[ think nkv c~n- stituenl~ arid the p~blJe at lai~e will agree, if this hill t~ enac~,~d without ~e. rio~ls rvylMon on th~ flool¸ this aftern~n. TO Ilndc* tile Iffogi~ ot 8~on 5, 1 urge r~v e011eaglle$ to 5tl]l~lor~ the Rmel~d~ellt that ,~.ollld re~tole the authorlKv of I~d- oral, ~tat~, and local ~geneio~ to regu- late eig~/rette ~dv~rtising If they ~een~ it to be in the be~t h~tei~I of the pub. lie's health and welfare. (Mr KOCH ~ked al~d was given p~r- mi~,~lon to revise arid extend ~1~ re- Mr. FOUNTAIN¸ Mr. ChMrldan, I rise (Mr. FOUNTAIN asked and was alyen pelmls~l~n ~o revi.~ and exte~ld ]J~ re- marks ) Mr. I~IJN~2AIN~ Mr. ChRh'lllall, the dis~lngulsed gentleman who hltroduced this amendment said that he saved it for th~ last in the ~ape that the Inood o~" the House might change I ~ould ]Ike t~ ~ay that the gentlema~ certainly saved tile worst oI~e lor the laat. ~[r. Chalrmatt, I tim O0~OS~d tO t~la ~nletldment As I understood it~ leading, ~h~ plopOSal w'otdd add Ol~ page 4, linv 23 ~he following : 'l~ls sUb,eel[oil do0~ not pre~cnt any ~Late or political ~b~lvl~lot~ lhereof, Which pro. certain ~ge~. Ir~m ~qulrlr~g that l~lly i~l~- arette a~ertisement within ~ts Jurisdiction set lurth the fact ~b~t ~e~$o11$ b~low ~or t aln ~ge~ ~rf ~tohlblLed by st/¢h ~late ~r pollt[= eal ~ubdhlslon from pxlrcl~$~llg elgaret~s ~l~i~ gnl~ndlnent, if added to this bill, WOUld ¢leaLe utter eh~s, and vhtuaUy make ilnpossib]e ~latiotlally bloadeas~ progran~sor the disscmlttatlon of nation_ ally ptlhlished nllIgazines, and indeed tnany locally published newspapers, Imagine 50 different advertising formats I~ a nationally broadcast program. It wo~ld open the door for each State to require each ¢lgalette advertisement to reelte word for wold the State's law II~ern~g ~l~e ~urehaae el e~ret~es by mlnors N~tion~lly broadcast p~ogr~re~ ~pon~ored by It elgarett e comp3ny WOUld not be received in those States, for no e~mmerelal could possibly recite tile varying appllcallle prol'isio~s for e~h and every ~t~te that might have ~he re~ qllh em~nt '~t/~;~ ~
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114956 Variations in State Iaws p~ohtbiting ames to minors are well known Some refer merely to//liners; ~lT~e ~o the llge; others have provlsions as to written pez- mission of g parent or gUardianj al2d by minors and the age limit for a sales violation is frequently different f~ the llnllt for p~e.qe~[orl wlt~lrt a given 8tats. ~9 sho~lzlg nationally t~levlsed p~0ffra~a~ f~r In ad~ anee, often before it Is certain • ~ho the sponsors Will be. St ation~ 'h~ul d be denied the right to broadcast many progra'nn if there was the remotest chrome that even a ~0*~cCOnd spot eig- ¢.rett¢ ~l~l~er ola~ r~lgb.t op~a~ CtX t~. These ~e variations wo~lld render it knll~sible to have printed elgare~¢~ ad- verisemenl~ In national publleation~, and In n~0st local newspaper~ which etxjoy any substantial out-of-state elreulatlon The end zesalt would either be ~tter ~haos, con fu61on to the readlng public, or ~ore likely the complete ees~tton of cigarette advertising--which Is what those offerh~g thi~ and other restric- tive amendments are really s~kll2g. '[7~ey really want a b~n on adVer~ls- I~lg either directly by law or indirectly ~y restrictions which will bare the effect of stopping the adver0.~[ng of cigarettes either nationally or locally. Mr. £hairmma, le~ me n~so aria that u~l of these ~mendmenk~ relating to reQulr- I~ '~val~a~ ~t~t~lncll',~ 11] ndverlismg, Whether Imposed by State or F~deral agencies, embody the unique fcattlre of having a btlMl~es~slnmt foot the bill for what congr~s~ has made clear Is a ~ov- eminent ln~'orl~atio]l pretrial Ill ~hl~l IUst~nee, It is heavily $upplenlent~d by gre~*t many private ol'ganlzatlonll Who raise vast s~ms Which they devote to f~ut~tg~.r~t~ q.W t~c~g~a ~ p~t- ~,~ets and ~,rttismoklng clinics and the It would be equally IO~1~1 to r~qulre bllsine~,~ a~ver tlsli~g of ~ny s~rt to e~rry fill] itdo~atioll ab¢41~ worl¢~aerFs ¢0nl* pen~atioll lawtL about the need t~ I~y lnaonle l,~x~s honestly and fairly, $.bou~ the availability of unemployment cmn- pens~tion, or any other illfoFffla~lon~I program wlileh someone believes ~h~ publle ~hould h~ve brought to It. Even more, In this lr~tanee, a~ the ~tEW official in charge of the educational progcam made clear, there is no netd for ~o stringent a r~qHIr~m~nt. To put this burden on the advertls- I~g ~1 a pr~ct th~*t vna~ ~ ~a~ttlly ~old Is not OIt]y !ou~ltlve but ~Ie~o Wholly unwarranted In fact, It would be an un- due burden upon interstate commerce. I urge and slneerely iaoPe the eomrait- ~ee r~'i]l vo~ t~lt, amendrd¢nt dow~l. Mr LE/T~ON. Mr. ~alrm~n, ~ the general debate yesterday on HR 6543. the Public llealth Cigarette Hmokll~g ACt of 1969, I listened with great interest to the s~atement made by I~y ¢Ol]~agtle and ~t*:~l friend, L I~. Foresail, ~ne~xnln~ his position which Is o~r ~lnly represent- ative of the po~ltlon of MI of us from North ~lirO]~lla. ~f~r 1118 remarks were printed, I went back and reviewed them, In the RteO~O On pv~es H491~H491~, land 1 find myself In total agreenaent. I ~or~mend ~r. ~OUNTalN ~or hl$ ~ne~rn 'CONGRESSIONAL B~CORD- HOUSE and effort~ to keep adverl4stng rego3a- lions within the authoril& of tile ~r.- gre~ and not permit agencies of th~ Fed- eral ~verllment to rm] in all directl¢~s 11~ the matter. Vchlle I ~m aI~ Op~ ~ the p~o- l~od Wal~lng label because I do not ~- lieve that cigarette ~mcklng has been ln- coatloverttbly established by medical authority as dangerous to health, I sh~l[ ~up~or t HR. 6543, to extend public hoalt~ protection, beeline this a~t will main- taln the ~t~tutory authorl~ of the Con- gre~ to regulate advertising. The ad- mlnlstraUon of Ile~2nelng ~al~ot vSdldly be converted Into m'bl~rar~ acts of e~t- ~or~hl~. The c¢~ralttee ktll, I f~eli ~lll pr~t~t t2~e public ~lld flee enterprise frora the (lxr~t of bl~real~cratl¢ direc- tives. ~r, I~OSS. Idr. Chal~lnan, I move to strike out tlie l~t word and ~se In ~up- port o! tile amelldment M.r. eJh ah~l all, with all due deference to the very dintln~alshed gentleman who preceded me In the well. I did not ex- I~t that. I would be herO long enough to hear barn almaden h~ tmditiorad r~le of ~pporth~g the rlght~ of the Statue. It lda very l~ffeshlng experience. I was altm Impressed by the ml*infor- matloa where he Said It WOllld r~tare word for word ~he r~l~tlO~ of f~e laWS Llie BLares ~n ar~ ~dvertlslng, Mr. FOUI~?AIN, Mr. Gbalrnlan, will the gentleman ~leld~ ~r. MO,~.~. I ant happy to yield to the gentleman Mr. FOUNTAIN. I did not t~ay it would ~-equlre that. I ~ald It would make It po~- slbl~ for that t~ happeta. Mr. MOSS. I would refer to the clear language of the amendment! TIM~ ~u~ctlo/~ de~ not pinyon ~ I*ay ~t~t~ bib I t~ ~he ~1~ of e[~ ~ ~r~olts b~low certain ~ge~ from ~qlUr[ng that ~ny elg. forth t~te fae~ ~h~t pel'~ below eertal~ ages are prohibited by ~uch ~t~te or po- IRl~l subdivi~lora frora p~lrcha~ln~ cig- arettes Now there is not a t~hl~g there that Implles there is the re~t~lrement thaL all the provlslolls of the law be set forth. ][ have seen advertisements On nlally occasions s~Ying, "This offer is not legal in the following States" and then it goes on to list a serle~ of States where the coupon cannot be redeemed or where the game cannot be played. ~ut here ~,~t e 1~ a compete pr~emp - tlon, and all the gentleman from Wash- ington wallt~ to do Is to clarl fy the right Of the States or local subdlvlsiolls b9 ell= Ior~e their prohibition. YOU most remember that when the law of the Btate sAy~ that tills Is not a leggl pl~duet to & 16*y~lar-old or I~n 18÷¥eai'-oId person, thell l~ is not a law- ful product. To present it ~ it was pre- ~en~ed In the well here & few minutes t.h]$ W00]d ~ $*ta O~e~O~ bx~rdell On Interstate commerce distorts completely and clearly the intent of ~he attthor of the amendment. There ought to be some limits on hOW June 18, 1969 use of ciga~ettes. There is clear evidence that ~ome of the ~tates lllLerpret this as an ~bsolute Preemption where they cannot teqvare a notice of the fact that It is ttnlawful to offer thera I0r rdde to ~mng meu a~d ~en b~10v4 ~/~aln ages, in most States 16 or 18 ye~ts old, I think this ~s the very least that you e~n do. Perhaps we have reached the polllt whel~ the ~OtlSO or the eon~llt~ 12~ inclined to say: "The public be daraned-- We are l~t cO~t ce m~d with yOUr welfal~.~ Tliat is what the a~tioll liere today lmpre$~e~ nm e.s being. The CFIAIP~VIA~. The qu~lon is on tixe oxaext6mel~t ~ere4 hy tlxe ~eatte. ~ian fr~n~ Wa~hhlgton (Mr. A~a/~s). Tim question W~s taken; and ma division (delna~ded by Mr. A~,~as) {$qero 8o the amendment was rejected. Mr. CLEVELAND. Mr, Chairman,. I of- for ~n amendment. 'I~1e Clerk read ~ follows! ~d,nendment ¢lI~t*ed by /dr. O~t~ : Ca ~ew SUbS~Tt Io1~: ,'(~} Tn0 I~retaty of Agrlc~ltalre shall t r~amrnl~ a rel~ to Con ~re~ ~ot Idler than ~1~ mo~tks after tb~ e~eetlwe d~te of thin /t~t~ ~ltd ~ntlall~ tl~er~af b~r, ooD~erning the dollar ~o~nt of a~mtnt~tr~tivo co~ta, ex- porb ~aten~s. m~rket proltlOtl¢la avta~.tle~. price ~pport~, or ~o~ldleo~ 0~t or ln~l. roe~= of ~tty kirad Wh$.t~r, ~l~at l~lxlt~ to gcower~, proe~r,s~r~, or expor~sr~ of t~o p:odueea In the united 8t~.~ nlake a I~lnt of order, The CHAIRMAN. The ~entleman Will stat~ it. Mr. SA'l=f~RFalgt-D. I me.ke a point of order ag~llmt the amendmeRt aa not be- ing germane. It pert~rts to the l)e~.rt. ntettt O~ A~t¢~ltU~ al3d khe ~liolnl~,~ $.ppIleable to export pr~nvtl0n, market pmmotlon. ~ld a4her matter~ pertain- ing to ~. The amendment Is not germane to the current aeUon It is alsO beyond the ~eope Of the bill. The ~HAIRMA~. Does the gentletaan from NeW HampslMre de,Ire to be heard on the point of order? Mr. CL~IVELA~D yes, I do, Mr. My amendment, Which IS elmast ~e]f. explanatory and ]~ quite bl~e f. WOUld I~e- quire the Secretary of Agriculture to thal~smlt a report to the ~ongress months after the effective date of this act eoneermng a matter that I believe I* directly involved In the eubJeet matte* of the bill. We are all concerned about the health angle ~nd the t*dvertlslt~ angles In relation to the u~e "at tobacco. ~ut there is at~ther f~,CCt to thla prob- lem and I think the public sh0U]d be Ill- formed about tt And we Members should be informed about It. That Is that the U,S Government is subMdl~lng tobacco In some instances, and they are shipping ~t abroad and ~n ~orne ~ore~gD co*dairies I am told they are advertising and pro- hinting its use. l%ow, Mr CnalFnlan, the purpose of this l~gl~]ation we are dribbling Is to Wenct the American public about the dsngerl far we are Willing to go to der~ ~ of ~raoking cigarettes. Tills is eertalrdy w~rtting, or effective orde~ agalns~ the a proper health f~nctlon of the ~overr,-
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June 18, 1969 ~:ONGP,~SSIONAL RECORD HOUSR H4957 merit But ~ ~ nat~ hypoc~t~ttleal, even Mr. ~12~¢. Mr. Chairing, the well as three rather smaller eompar~e~-- two-f~d, t,o b~ I)~g lY%~ w~rrtlllg amextd*nent which we have debated this I~ros & Br0 Co, Stvphano Br0,, and while artal3ae¢ arm of ~vhe Go~rnment aftertloQn portray the ¢1a~1¢ issue of the U/~ TObaCCo Co. is acUvely a~d perhaps exi~rtsIVely en= self=regulation verst~ OQvemment regu- gaged in the buslne~ of supporting eub- lat4on Of private tndtust*7, sldtz ng and even prornoti.8 the line o I do not think there Is any dlt~gr~- tobaeol~ Of course It is, , merit on the potnt that wherever feasible While iny arnexldrne~t would no% end ~d inthep~lbllc tnt~rest, ~elf.rcgul~,tion this pracUe~ it woUld compel the (3ov- of private industry l~ always to be pre. ernment to h~fca~a the Caxpayer how much it ~ COSt~ /tim %O alaintain arid expand the market for a proch~ Which hl~ government t~IL~ hlm---a]~ at his o~3 expell~--filay be harmftfl to Use, Surely, Mr. Chairm~r t, we a~noU]d end tids ernbarr~kqg, ~tly dauble st~ndard~ On page 5 of the bill, llnder stlb~etlor, (d), the eommittee in it~ wtadom has asked Ule S~retary of Health, Education and Welfare to t i~llail~t B report to C~11. oz/current inf~r~lat[c¢, in re~pect to the health e0n~equen~s of tmoking recommeiidati0ns, if ~ny, for ]egi~lati0n, On the sarae page, the ~olam~ t tee in iks Wladom ha~ asked the Federal Trade Cornmeal]on to transmit a rep~r~ to tha ¢~ongr e~ not later than 18 month~ after the effective date of the ftct Coricer~ing (he eff~tlvene~ ~f ~lg~rett~ labeling and the current pra~tices attd method of c~garette advertising. I¢ ~cems to me it would be quite germane for ~ to take the next step a~d a~k the ~retar¥ of Agriculture Just how mu~h he is ~uttlng int~ the prc~notin8 of tobacco and ~b&e~0 plx)d~tcts, how lnuch of it i~ being exported abl~ad, ~nd Under ~lat eOndltiol~& I think this is thoroughly germane, ahd I ask the Chair to so ~Ule, The CH.~IRMAN. The Chair has ex- aridned the anlend~nent Offered by the ge~tlemart from /~ew H~m~hire (Mr. CI~VXLMer* ) alld the bill before the Com. Ix~ttee. The Chair observes that there ~r~ two reports required in ~e bill, a~ show~ on page 5, at~d the gen$1eman'~ ~mendr~e/~t adds S* third rep~l~ tha~ WOUld be required, and thl~ t~flrd report would b~ germane to the ~ub~ect raattor of th~ bill I~ ~eerds clearly germane, and the Chair overrules the point Of order. The gentleman from New Haral~hlre r~]~ized for 5 ~31n~ltes in support of lfl~ amendment. (Mr. CLEVELAND f~k¢~d and W~ given perra~a.~on to revlae end extend his re~ark$.) Mr. CLEVELAND, Mr. Chairman, 1 ~llIlk rny prevJo~$ rel]l~.rk~¢ lrt e0/~rl£~. tian with the gez~nanen~as of this amendment a]s0 ~xp]a[]3 my pur]3a~e lfi ~king the House to adopt t~L~ ~r~end- ~en~ 'f~e h~tlr is late and I know tha~ maIly members Of the Corrortittee have been listeldn~ to this debate Imtiently and for a long tiz~e, I Cft31 Qn]y ~ay I h~pe ~he Chairman of the Commit~ee in hl~ wisdom, Ilow that he has fou~ld the amendment is germ~r,e, W~I ac£ep~ it, The CHAIRMAN. The questlen is oil the amendment Offered by the gent]elnazl florlt ]~ew HsmDsh[re (Mr. CL~L~). The arn~ndraent ~,a~ reJ~ted~ ~erred over G~vernment reg3flatlon, BUt where an industry, e~trusted with the burden of self.regulation ~.bdicate$ [ta re~por~lbiUty, then, in the k, ztt~re~t of the laubllc, C~ve~nment must act to fill the r~!ulatory gap. which ha~ been thereby creatural. eonslderhlg t]ds preposed le~l~la- faced with a deeAslon which Will bear ¢11. on the public health and welfare of our Citizens. and in partloflar on our young people. TO pa~ the bill in il~ pres- ent form would be t~ all0w existing p~t- ~ra~ and techidques of ~lgarette ~dver. tls~g t~ ¢o~tlnue, po~lbl~ unchecked, for another 6 ye~r~. I believe that it is therefore incumbent Itgon ua to haqu~re as to Just how good those pattenl~ and tx~hnlque£ are, and as %o the nat~xe of the guidelines and regul¢,tory devices width govern them. The tobacco lndwtry ~ one which purports to be ~elf -regulated. At least it has all the ~pp~arance~ of self-ragu]ation. l~ar example, the ind~tr~, ~rly In 1964. drafted ~.n eight-page Ciga~ffe Advertising Code, the ~rirnar~ aims of which were. ha the worda ~f lt~ adralnl$- tra~or, ,,to avoid appe~]~ to y~uth and to e]lr~ltlate m~ubsk~nlAated health c]allr~," At the salne time ~ reglll~tlng lastr tanenl~4~lgar ctte .a.dver ti~ing Code, Th~n JUly 1. 1984, the major tobacco co~i>anie~ inVOlved in 01e dr~fting of ~he code ~ppoInted l~ob~r t B. Meyner as the ~0de*s administrator, at ~n annual ea]ary of $100,000 Iv[r. Mcy~er has to thl~ date been the CAC'S only adrah~Jstrator, and has cent, in u~d I~ receive the |ID0,000.a. y~r s~ary f~r the r~a~t 5 y~rs, C~lvea*, therefore, the~e lndlc]e of self- ]~gulatlon, we must now ]aok to the r~- oral to se@ exactly what, kind of ~ Job of self-regulation the CAC and i~ edm~n- lstrator bare been perforallng D~rlng hearings before the Intor~-~abe and Foreign CO~lerce Conmlittee on May 1, 1969, Mr, Mey~aet testified that the CAC represents -a worthy e~mp]e of ~'df-regu]a~lon." If his tes~hn0ny on £hat date. considered as a whole, is to bc tak~/l a~ ~ V~]U~, theD the ¢gnell~JOrt would be that he and the CAC are doing as effe¢~t[ve a ~b of se]f-regtlla~i~ as could be done. B~t, r~grettably, this dt~$ z~ ~eem to be the ca~e , Let tt~ therefore, look to the record to ~ee Just hOW "~vor[hy" is th]~ ex~mD]e e~ sa] f -regulstlon, From t~lC 0uL~et, I refer to a rather critical sl%u~t~n re]atin[~ tel and ~eri- ous]y afI~t[llg the operations of, the CAC's subscribing raember~idp When the CAC w~ ha]tially adopted, Mr. WHALEH, Mr Chairman, I move it listed as its member~ all of the s0-called to strike the requisite n~mber of words. "big ~ix,, tobae~0 c0r~panie$ .Araer]can (MI. WHALEN asked alld Was given Tobacco Co,. Brown & Williams~nI LIg. perraL~si0n t~ reVise and extend h[s , get[, & ~yer~, p. I~r~llard & Co, Philip renlarks)¸ ]v[orri~ CO,, and R~ J, Reynelds Co as But ~'ithin 3e~-~ than 3 years afar the date on which the CAC wcnt into effect, tw~ of the big ~ix corn panie~ withdrew as members--P, Lol~]lard in 1966, a com~ paily wll~eh today repre~efits an ll-Der- cent ~h~re of total ~ndustry Dr~luctJen Of ¢]garett~a, azld the American TOb~co~ CO, in 1~67, a company which now eccl. pI¢~ 22 peree~t of the total Industry market. "i~erefore, ~ have today a ~lttlat]oIl where major tobacco e~gmpanie~ re. spoi~iDle for one-third Of the total U~, Cigarette production are not even subject to the rules Of the code. How, then, Cart I~[r. Meyt%er presume to "epeak for the industry" wheA at lea~t one-third of it has not bee~ llnde[ Ida Jurisdiction for qu~te some time? B~t putting a~ide for a moment~-Jf that is pos$1ble--tho~e two critical 4efe~- t~r~, let u~ l~k at what kind of L Job that CAC have been doing in reg~ at hng the adverfl~rtg of the rem~nhag me~-~ber Article IV, section 1 (a) of the ¢~4e ~t ~te~ that-- Cigarette advertising ~hall not appear: (1) On televt~i~n an¢~ r~dla pr~gram~, ~t in pub]lea%lom*~ directed primarily to per~n~ ~nder twe~tT.~n¢ yeart of abe; (2) In spo~ ~nnoua~ments durll]g ~trty progra~a break ~, 5r dl~rtng %he program break imtn ~llately preceding or Iollowing, a teleVi~ior~ er eadla pragram dlre~t~l primarily to pet sQ.n~ ul*der ~el year~ ot age. But when we look at the rc~ord, what do We find? I shall i1~ the exa~lple of WNBC-TV in New york City, the "flag- ~l~p" el the lqatlenal BroadcastLng Co., %o dem~nstra~ that ~he abgve-c[ted pro. Visions are Violated regularly. FOr one thing, on April 17. 1969, a typical broadea~ting weeknight on %VNBC-TV, FCC reogrds ~how that dur- ing prime t~me aloI%e, 12 separate ¢18- aret~e 9,dvertiselk%ent~ were fdi-~d. Fur thor, taking, as examples, four sep. arate television programs atred O~ WNBC-TC during prlnle tinle, you ~[I find that tw~ cigarette commercials xvere broadeas~ dulhlg -i 8py1** four during Tatnmy and the Dc~torI" two during "The Virginian." and three d~ring "Dan_ lel Boone¸" I ~hit~k thaf the ~olatlotm here of the ~be¥e-cited CAC provisions are obvious. Tile shows tha~ I have mcntiol~ed ~re all mo~t certainly i~rograr~ that draw v~s~ a~[e[lC~ of yo~/ng pcop]e. Let us leek ~t another prevision Of the code. Arilc~e IV, section 1 (d) of the code f'lgaret~e advertising shalt n~t represen% %hat cigarette ~rn0k~ng ~s essential to ~0~al promlz~ez~e, dt~tinctlon, ~ucce.~, or ~iuul ~t~ractl~n Wha~ ha~ Mr. Meyner's (?AC done to eIl[oree the letter o[ this regu]atloi%? Ap~ palent!y, not a friar deal, ~ince this regulaLlon I~ also vlOleted with regtl- ]azity, I wo~]d like to c[t~ as exam~]e+~ some of the ¢on~n~erel~%ls ;efer[ed ~o in the re~antly publicized ~nfldentia] "Broad. cast Cigarett~ Advertising Report." pre- pared in 19~6 for tile lqa~lonal A~%soaia. ~[or~ of I~roadeaster~,
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dq*ne 18, 1969 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- HOUSE H 4959 what further In lt.q attompt~ to browbeat ¢omp]et~ ~ntrol of the broadcast con- smoking. However, to carry, thrOUgh with the tobaoco Industry. We are also fatue4 foday xvlth an Bv~.n gr~al~" gl~tsp fo~ authority lay the Federal commun~ao tlons CS0mmls~lon which has proposed that, a ban be p]ace(~ oi1 all clgaret ¢e ad~ wr tLsing on radio an~ ~ evisior~. The issue here Is c]ear--shal] Congre~ allow ILs legl~atlve authorl~ to ba usurped by regulatory agell¢les? I be- lieve thet, the over~,~l~trdtlg sentir~ellt today Js to do no more than cat~ Im JustS. ~ec[ buL nQ ]e~ Ll~m i~ to protect the !oxlla. lie interest to the ~xtent that preselxt evldenoe r~tllres. It Is important last C0ng~ ~et quickly b~¢~*lse the Cigarette Labeling Act expires 0o JUly |, 1969, and lllXle~s Congress extends lt~ the Federal Try.de Commis$Iort, the FeVered Co~uaultlc~t- tion$ Corr~tl~i0n, al~d other [tg~Ilt21e~ ~lay attempt to tak~ action which ~lll far e~ceed Iogl~ Or Ju~Uficd approache~ The ~o.¢.alle~ evidence ~ubmltted by the reg ~tl~tory agency in co~u~otion With their proposes doe~ ~o~ I~dicate that there Is today any more ~raof of t2~ d~ngers of tight.to snx~king tha~ wa~ available in 1965 when the Clg~-e~te I~bellng A~t Was passed. Wha~ was don~ theft lt~ o**del- to ~ore~taJ] & (~ng0roo~ gra.~ for a~thorlty would~ the~f0r~, logically appear to be ~ oattrae of aettor, today when we ~re faclr, g eve~ greater thre&ts of Ore¢lpltoll~ a~tto~. Congress ~h0uld not le~d IL~e~f go the destructloia ~t an entire lnduBtr~ ~imply on the ba~Ls of the whlra~ and fan~l~ Or personal pi*Judioe~ Anything which is done r~last be Justified by concrete and Irrefutable evldetw* ~, hich oeri~ln]y Is *aot available today, I axe grea£]y e~nccrn0d about the ft~dam~nL~l L~ue involved tn the l~ra- po~ls made by the ]~?t~ and the ~ ea the acttorm whlvh they propose to take ~.r~ C]e&rly beyond ~.he i~lm Of gUthor~ lty of tth0~2 ag~ncie~ or any otl~r agen- C~ of the l~L~r~d O~v~iT~m~nt, "i~lor0 l~ • growing te~dencS, On the par~ of rarely of these reg,~flato~y ag¢~eA~ to arbitrarily l~¢rems¢ their power $*t~ ex- tend the ~pe of their oper~tl0r~ t~der the guise that they a~ a~ing In th~ public Int~re~ f3uch ~tl~n$ are fre- quel~tly taken without the bent~fR of pubilc hearing~ ~nd ¢~lxaird~ do ~ot oan~tl~ute ]¢gialative Drc~(~ure Z am p~rttoularly ineetmed by the at. tempts of the ]iac, dcr~l C~ommunlc~tlon$ Co~mlLsslon to Ioan the ~dvertl~ing of cl~arett¢~ .or~ radio ~d televi~lon. ']?his prol)O~l I~ c]~rly otlt~lde the Juri~llo. lao~ which ¢~n~r~ ha~ delegated to ~he and ~ll my opinion is olfly de~Agned to inthrddate Congress, ~t is ~ot the pre- rogative of the ~ to te~e tmprleAotls a~tic*n go prevent m~llllf0x:~urerg O~ ~tg~tttte$ from ¢~dw~lSlng~ a~d cer- tainly not on the basis of th~ tqnt radio- tory nledle~l evLdtn~- witlc~ l~ r~ow available. This is ~ot ~trtctl~ a liealth issue; lf~ IS a. ¢on~ti~utt0n~l Question, ~nd 01~e ~hic~ Coi~gre~ ea~r~ot alford to ig~0re, It Is clear th~ if th~ F~ can ~a~ cigarette e.dve~-tlsing, I~ c~n a]$0 claim the rLght to curtal1 the advertising of 0thor !0ro(~ttc~-artd if this ~t~lff20r]ty exlst~ t~a do thl~, I~re$0mably It ~LS0 could extend to outright ter*~or~hlp tti~(~ tvnt at radio and television. Certainly the American people do not want Or Will rto~ s~and for government control Of what they ~ce or h~ar on th~ broadcast media. The free~om to ~l~ak al~o carr[~ with l~ the freedom to ~- yerLi~c-~tn]~gs there ~ ~me pr~vcra basis that the product in question Is a detrLrnent to t]~e ]~eaith and ~ell-I~ing of the public Obvlotl~ly there h~$ been much dl$~greemen~ amot~g Government ~gen01e~ on the Information which I~ pr~ntly available on cigar~t~ ~ra~ko i~g, ~nd It Is abunda~tl~v Obvious that the FCC Cat,not be considered a~ a ba~l~ for rn~dlcal authority Or, the ~ub~ect. I ~m af r a,id tha~, there ~re $o~e "~Od ~t y who. in their zeal to dramatize this ~ub- Jeer, are i~ fact $~ekln~ to destroy* the toi)acco in6ustry whLch i~ o1~ of the older enterprises ~n the ~ew World. The~ IS a well orga~t~ed campaign to Und~rmin~ the industry at~d many who ff/l(Ior~ thl~ $~r~tt~gy ~t£1 ~r¢ In the forefront of the~¢ t, llort~ ~eem to care little for fair pl~y ar objectivity Any obJe~tiv~ ai~aly~s of th~ intor~at[o~ ~blch I~ now avallab)¢ ~lll ~ear]y show that the (~overnment should no~ p~t R- ~elf in the position of persecuting artd de~roying an entire Industry. This is diantetrieally Opposed to our System ol free e~terpr[se an~ I feel confident thg.t CoIIgress does not want t~ ]el~d itself to such ~n un~ertaklr~g. The overall lnlpaeL of the tobacco l~ dt~try in this o~tl~ry l~ confiderS.ale commoditie~ upon which htmdrads of thousa~£1$ Of gro~'er~ depelld for mu~h of their livelihood. About t~ billion pou~dx of tobacco are prodtlced a~mla[ly On abottt one million ~cre~ oit over a halt million farms in the United States. A1- togethe¢ about 1,~00~000 busL~ox4e~ ~hare In the tob!~o trade and 111 the Ilsca] ~ear 19(~7-1965 tobacco taxes imposed by Fed~ eral, ~taie, attd Ic.~al gover~lment~ reached an all-time high of $~.2 billion. On cIg&lett~ ~lO~e, th~ ~e(~ral amounted to $2,066,159,000; State taxes to $1,069,674~000 ~ arid rau~lclpal taxe~ to $61,6~6.000 making a total of $~09~.- 529,000. It l~ gignlflc~nt to l~0te that Gig. arette ta~ are I~lore than five times as much as grower6' receip LS for the tobaC¢O t~ed in dom~ically ~onsumed cigarettes Z ¢~te these flgu]~s ot~ly to ~how the total Impact Of the tobacco I~du~ttT but a.s staled prev]o~Lv, my main c~tc~ru is In the que~tiol~ of usurpatielt of a~- thority by Federal agen¢le~ Insofar a6 the Federal Commul~lcatloms Co~lmis. ~or~ ~s ¢oll~rltcd. We T01ght point out that 81nee the C~ga~,tte Lab~ing Ac~ ol 1965 was adopted, t1~ere ]~a~ b~el~ a gx~w- ~ng ~umber of antisrdoklng adverLis~. menl~ carried On television ~tation~ throughout th~ ~uutry. Broadeastt~r~ ger~elally have cooper~tod l~ the proper UUl[~a~[on of the~e coramer¢laIs and the Jnd~;try ha~ e12dc~.vor Cd to a£eommod~t~ lteeif to the dlverlcent poinLs of view which h~ve been aired. The fairne~ ~l~- trin~ requ~re~ broade0stcrs to pI~de a re~son~ble vpportunity for disell~ion Of dlv~rgel~ vle,,v~ On eontrovt.r$1al l~12e~ ~nd the l~dt~try re~llze~. Of course, that this op~or tunity will continue to be ~tlllzed by tho~e who oppose cigarette thv FCC proDos~ of Febrdary 9 would mean that the tobaCCo industry WOUld be barred frora e~elglslng IK~ ¢oru~t~th~lon~l right to advertise and in addition th~ implementation ol this order ~o~ld ~et ~p i~ ~haiu r t~a~tlOl~ t~ntl~ ~,hlch ~ltlzil~ i- a¢~ tlon might be applied to other products¸ It Is Obvio~ that If the ~C can l~vok~ It~ ban On ~*dwrtlslng~ It is logi~ t~ a~me that such things ~S patent rncdio clne~, vitamins, ln~e~tt¢ide~, a~coho~l¢ bever~gt.~, artificSal ~w~¢tcrv~y~, m~r~y c~smetL~ a~[ food~ containing ~ol~8- terol, fluot lde~ e~ ~ might al~o be deer~ed harmful to th~ body~ The v~lnerabll]ty Of the product would be detornfln~d on whether or riot It is ~ubJevt to contro- versy ~r~d, Of coul'*se, ~p_y of th~ a.~v~- ]tamed could be subJec~ to criticism for ~om~ Fource I strongly ~rge that the Congregs lnake OlUnistakt~,bIy cl~ar ~ intention ~vith respect to the t~'Pe teg~lation which t]~A~e ~ge]lc]e~ are pro0osing ~*~ ~ ~rfl afraid that If this is no~ do~e we may ~cor~ fi~d that fttr ther legl~laUve author- ity will be usurped by the ~o-~alled com- missions¸ T~day It is eigarette~ tomoi-- row Jt raight ~el] b~ some oth~ product aud foll~x~ing thts pro~edtlre lo its logi- cal ~onc]us[o~, eY~ntu~lly [~]nlost ev~ry- thing which is advertised Could be crlti- cIz~d o~ n~ade ~ontroverslal~ We ~annot afford to defa~t oll this L~ue a~d Icav~ the de¢lsionmaki~g !aroce~ss to the FCC, the ]~TC or a~y other C~vernra¢~n t ~g~n. Cy or to the cour t~. It i~ clca¢ly the Ore- rogative of Congre~ to act and Congress ~ho~ld exercise thl~ prerogati.¢e arid ~x- tend the cigarette* Labeling Act of 1965 ~s l~ proposed by the bll~ IlOW before us. [Mr. ALBF~RT a~ked arid was 81yen peFr[tl~.~ton to revise ~r~d Cxtelld his r~- marks¸) Mr. FARP~qTEII~ Mr Chalrman~ I move to ~trike the requisite nur~'o~r Of Mr Ch~lrm~n~ the v~-lotl$ &llt~do rne~ts which have been offered, aud the dl~;e~lgston Of th~r(I, h~t~ b~¢n vCFy ~a]tlo tary Th~ |~et that they were ~.ll deo ~eatCd dl~g~lst~ me~ a~d I feel ¢ollo strained to vote against this bill (Ml~, FAR~TEIN askcd ~tnd Was given permission to ~vi$~ a~d ~nd hLs yeo ~r F~r~(~WN of O~lo Mr Chairman, I ~uov~ ~ ~:~rlke the ret~ul~lte ~lmbcr Of word~. T~e cJg~]eit~ adve]ti~izlg is.~ue 13 an I1]usti~tion of the lact that nothing IS t~r $iml)Ie ~nd c]eare~ lu Federal leg~ Isl~tto~ At ~take are b]ilion~ of dollar~ Ill a ~lUl~b0r of ]~lajar industries In th~¸ ¢0~ntlT~ a possibility Of controlling to ~ii1¢ extent $~velal deil~ly ]lehigh al~le- tions and o~1¢ ~f the basic tools of our free e~terprise ~ystem, the right to ad- v~ltise, w]dch ~row~ from the I)rst amendmenL Each of these basic intore$~ ~*rves to co~fllct/~lth the other In the p~oblcm To reach ~ d0¢isloi~ Lr~ this l~le 011~ mu~t ull~er~tand complex medical terra$, th~ teehniealitJes of law, *~he ~ub0etie~ Of ~era.a~ltic~ and the worth ol statl~ic~ ~ proving a.~mpt tons. It i~ the f or th~orning expiration of th~ Clgar~t ~ Lal~ling AOt of 19~5 which ha~ p~mpt~d re~Wed ¢~o ugr ~s.¢lon~] ¢ol~e~rn
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June 18, 1969 CONGR~SIONAL 1LECORD- HOUSE H 49&~ I ~ a ~p0~2~l" of H~,, 521| which was introduced on January 29. In e~- ~n~% th~ bill ~ five ~or pro~ o~ to pl~ the ~er: First, a warning t~ be included on all ~s r~a~dng: ~arolng: Clgarett~ amo~n~ ~ dao~er~ t~ h~tb and may ~u~e death 1tom ~aur~r ~txd o~her dl~6. 6eo~nd, all advertisements of eiga- r~ttes to h~ude an Identioa] wanltng; Third, all advert[~ment~ to include EL st&t~men$ ]~st~ the ~,ve~'~ge t~r ~d vJ~ o~ntent8 of ~ cigarette; Fourth, it In•de It unlawf11] to manu. f~rv cigarettes that ~xcoed a mayA. ~U~V. ]eighth pre~cribed by the ~¢ret ary of Health, Education, and Welfare; and Fifth, it repealed section 10 o~ the Fed- oral Cigarette Labeling and Advertising Act, the~by eliminating the p~nptlon and perrr~tttng I~¢ Fede~l Commul~ca. tlol~ Commlaslon ~d ~ Federal Tr~e Ccmmis~on to regulate adverting. UD~or~lffmtely, th~ prov!,sioru~ were not adopted h~ eonunlt tee. Instead, a cap~ ]tulati0n ~ the tobao¢o In d~,4~r ~ ~,r~ ~* ported to the ~oor o~ the Houav. A number of ~endment~ are p; Opted In an attempt to strer~en the health protecMon provl~on~ of HR. 654~, Th~ gent]ema~ ~rom Mich~ga~ (Mr. the Federal Coramuicat~or~ Coraml~l~n to prohibit the br~adcast~lg of ¢~ar~ advsrL~sh~ which would be most ~kely to haw ~ lmpac~ IlpOn indJvid~lals ~J~d~r 18. The gentleman from Rhode Ia~and (MY+ T~NAN) ]]as an aInendr~n~ to ~horten the preemp~10n period. Tbe~e L~d other ~la¢*~dmeI]~ a/~ worthy of support. The Dep~rtment of Heblth, Education, ~nd Welfare, the Federal Communlca- tlal~ CommJ~loD, the Federal Trade Col~ml~Mon, and every major ~edlcal asso~atk~t in the U~tod ~te~ have Saeir Don *~ok~r~ ~u~torp~ 1~ ~e pO~ ul~tl~n, ~iS m~ thai e~garett~ s~ol~ers tend to die ~t ~arllOr ~ ~4ad experiene~ more da~r~ Of al~blltty th~ c~n~ble non- am~ke~e. 2 A ~u~m~tta~ l~Wl~a ~f earlier d~ths bnd exc~ d~*bill~ would uot have o¢. currc~ If t~s~ aflee~d had ~ver ~r~e& 3, If It were ~o~ f~r clgare~ ~nl~klnS, pr~tical[y none c~ t~ ~rller d~aths from ung c~er wc~Jd b#ve ~rr ~d~ nor ~ ~ub* ~tant~al portion ol the ~liet ~atb~ fro~ ehrontc br~bopulroo~ary dts~s (oomo mon]y dSag~o~d ~ chro~ bronchitis 0~ pulmu~ry vmphy~ema ~r both); nor • p~- tton of the e~rller ~tl~ of o~dlova~ula~ origin, ~¢~ dlsabl~y from ch;o~t0 pu]= monar~ ~nd ~rdi~a~r dlse~ ~Ould 4. Ces~atioa or appr~able r~d~ctio~ of ~antial p~rtloB ~f d~%~ ~h[ch ~ue from l~ng ¢~n~, a ~b~ta~tia~ poetic• Of ~he earlier deaths aUd exee~ d~&bfli%y from ChrOnic brOaCh~putm~rF dl~ea~e~, ~d • pot t~on ~I the oaf]let ~1~ au~ ex~e~ die. ~bility r~ ~ardlova~ular mdgin, {~ffa~ Hea~th Cg~eque~c~s of ~mokJng, A l~bll0 Health 8err[c0 RevJew, 1907~ FUbU~ ~e~Jth Ser~J~e Pub]lear[on No 1~9~, pp $-4 (R~vl~*~ J•~. uary. 19B8). The sl~Jnsors of this bill claim that it will requlre cigarette ~a~ufacturers to include adequate warning o~ t~e dan- ger~ of ~trn0ktng. Th~ c]atrn IS a farce. The most egcctlve waF to ~rotect youth from the hazards of smoking is ~ reach them before their d Ocl~. to ~oke has been made, before the package of ciga- rot tes Is ever pur~ha~d. Cl~:arette adver- tising obviously play~: an Impor~aut roie in this decision, The world o~ cigarette muoker~ has been depicted as an Idyllic world ol handSOme men and Io~ely young wo- men ~h0 walk hand ~ baud through 6C~rde me.down. TO "~b ]mpr$~ioi~able youth of Ar~erlca, such a~vert~erd~ ~oer~ to p~c~n~* %he e~g~ret~ smoker ~t ]Ire Of s~lal ~1] CCe~, 'rh~ t J~lle h~ ¢~ t~ advertise th@ da~tgers of ~m0kl~g y~rs, the Congre~ lr~ effwt would pr0- hlblt the Federal C~lnlunl~atiol~s Co,n. r~ls.~on from rern0vl~g ~ar0tfe adver= tising from t~lavislon and rsdlo Which the Federa] C0rnmunica~ions C~ls. stan proposed to do upon the explra~on of the preemption. On Febr0ary 5, 1909, the Federal Comm~r6~ati0~ Commt~ slon issued a ~lotiee proposing a ~l~ • ~hleh would ban broade.a~t |icensee$ from pr~nf~ng ¢~arette ~dver rising. Although t~ae bill strer~then~ the ]an- E~age of the warning on the pec~age to rea4h Warning: The Surgeon Oeneral ha~ de. terw/~ed tha~ ¢lg~rett e a~o~L~g I~ dangerol~ Io your hea~th and m~y ~U~ ~ or o~: dtse~se~, rea]Istleally or not st sll. Called ~'or a strong bl]~ that wl]l ade- 'P~e prep_n% law provides that no state- me~t relating to snlok/ng ~. health, other q~ately inform the public of the dangers of clgarette smoking. Cengreas must no~ than the warnblg set f~h in the act place econmlc and poUtioal consider•= ~ha I be r~ulre~ on any ¢~a~tte p~k= tlorm •'cove the health of o~/r Ci~IzeI~s age a~d fur~rr~ore that ~o ~ta(~r~e~It Mr. FARB~TEIN. Mr. C~irman. the rel~ting to amoking and health shall be bill we bare before us, H.R 6543, ~hould ~he~e ulp ~r~ck al ~ etsh eo f~ ~W~l~ ~is ~g ~ab~g~r et 4tot ~ ~ionrry ~ a~a~ th oSCar ]r~ ~ ~ ~f l~ O~h,r ~ act~'u- . ~ s to the statutory wari~l~. That preemption r~edioa] p~ctlov In this coo~tr~, to the e~plre.s or~ Ju]y 1, 1~69 HR. 6543 wo~dd programs of ol~r nxedica] and heaJth extend th~ preemption tx~ Jt~y l, 197~, agenoi~, and to the health of our By ex~endhlg the p~ptlor, for 6 people.,, T~ |S the way the Surg~n General of the United States charac~el~zed te~t~. rnc~y in s~pp0rt of this bill. This bill is bad legisla0on, ~t is bad because it flle~ in the face of teatimony from ~ll r~aJor health orga,~- zatio~s and the Department of Hea]th, Education, and Welfare that CoDgre~ should auth0rl~e the Fed er .~J Trade Com. r~L~lo~ and the Federal Com~urdcao Mor~ C~r~mI~ion I~ refill•to cigarette adverti~Lng, partleu)arly as such •dyer. tLsing ~ppeals to youth, It is bad because It flies in the face of the fact that since 1984. when the Sur- geon (3o~er a[ declared ~moklng a health h~zard, cigaretl~ ~vcr~g h~ r~en 50 percent to $~00 million per year and Th~s amended Warring Is i~zu~olent to the warning on the package ha~ eatlsed ~lert the p~bl~¢ to th~ potential conse- no appreclab2c d~lh~e In overall con- q11ence$ O~ ¢~g~',t~ ~rfl 0kln~, $11r~pt]on or nu~bel's of new .~raoker~, It k bad be~tu~ it ~e~ In t~e face of the Inabfllty of the brc~a~Rn~ lnd~. try to re~late Itself and It~ ~ra,~l~u dO~Um~ta~on L~c&~ng tttts ~- abilit~ It is bad ~se it faik to require that tar and r.leotine conten~ appeer c~ ~tCh package of clgarett~s. I intend to vote agaln~t this bill be. ¢~us~ I b~i[ eve Che t~e has ~ for our sc~let y to pla~ the health of the pubic first in the c~r~Ideraflon of priorities; and that thls ~ exactly what ~ le~- lat~on would not do, AS a publlc r~r~a~t, I b~Jlevc It is my duty to protect the l~Ibl~¢ ~rota any h~d th haZ4~rds that may exist, or at the very least to ~,ar~ t~e~ of s~eh hazards. Cigarette ~rn~In~ i~ ~day one of the major eontrlbutor~ to d~th and disease In t~ks ~unt~. In my ow~ N~W ~rk State alone, at lee~t 16,000 die needlessly eaoh y~r. Seven Out Of ever~ |0 ~f thee deaths wero ar~oIlg ~IT~o~s 35 to 65 y ea~n~ e~e. There can l~ ~o ~JstakJng that the ~ l~twcen ~a~cer, healt dlse~se. emphysema, et cetera, and ~rnoklng Js ~no~ ~'~an casual Dr. C~c~r Auerbach, ~nlor Medical Investigator ~t East Or- ange Veterans' Adminlstrati~n Hospltal h~s stated that "Cigaretl/~ smoking is the ~ dc%,~st~t~ng thing that can happen to the hum~ body." I|e ~0~Jd- ors it Ill the ~e CI~ as arr~.~ie. ]Dr. Auerb~ has beer~ Invest~ga~ng ~he re. f~r mot0 tba~ ]~ y~rs. ]~ there arc those who dlsrdgrce with ]~[~ ome]us~o~, Z need only point to the approxLrnately 100,000 phy~4~Jar~ in this country who have sb~ppcd smoki~z slnc~ the first re- port of the Surgeon ~el~eral ~s Jasued in 19~4. While .~er]eaa ]ngerlulty ~r~i r~.le~- mansb~p have the reputation of being able to sell anything, it sh~d ~ot be left totally fyee to sell III health and death to the ~nerlcan people, I do not belleve society should be left unp~tecled on tbls quest Jon. I intent to ¢~t my vote against this b~ll, Mr. ADAM~. Mr. Chairman, I move to ~trike the requlsite number of words. I rise to inform the Hous~ that I arR informed the rnot~o~ to re~mrrdt this matter will be a stralght motion to re- eornmi~ to the eomrnlt~ee. In light of v/hat h~ ]~ap~ r~cd this aft~r~oo~ o11 o~r atternpt~ to D~r fc~t thls bJl] ~qth amend- ments, l)ccam~e every !~rfcetlng amend- mcnt h~ bt~n defe~d a~d every ~t- tempt we have made to try to Ir~prove this ]egls]ation or to make ~t a b~ll we coUld vote h~ be~n thwar~d, and I will, therefore, urge my collc~ues to vot~ for the motion to r~ommSt, I ho~ the HO~ ~dl] support thls poslt]on. ~Tne Hotlse w}[l say, If it dc~s support the motion to recommit that it is not s~tlsfled with t~d~ b~ and that the com- 1~Ittc~ ~ho~]d take it b~ck and the com- r~ttc~ sh~Id corr~t the bill and make the bill sotne~hh~g the Amer]oan publio can support. It ~qll be a bl~l to acc~mo pl~sh the things that ~oU]d be accom. pllsh ed by this House today. So I am hcpeftl] the mot]on to reck= rnlt, whJeh, as I t~Ider~t~d it, ~ill be a ~traight motion to r~rn mlt to the e~u~. nlltt~, Wfl) be agreed to. ] Rrge my ~I- ] e~tgu~s to support it.
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]l 4964 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- HOUSE The CHAIRMAN. Under the r~le. the GUYOT M¢¢Iur* R0d*tl0 8txlilvafi fJotomit~e rls~. ACOOrOlngly the Committee rose; and. the Speaker haVh~g resumed the 6a~. Mr, BaO0~, Chairman el' the Commit- tee Of the V~tolo ~to~ On the State of ghe Uu~l~, ~rte0. th~ %h~h Comttdt~ ice avh18 had "o~der constderation the btll (itl~. 6543) to extend public health p~0teetion with resl~ot to cigarette ~m0k- lttg al3d for off,or l)Ur~3ses, p~nan~ ~to 14ouse Re~lutlon 457, he re~rtod the bill back to the HOtL~ with sundry ~:oer~ttL~ ~opt~ by ~he Committee o;[ the Whole. SPEAKER. Under the ~uIe, the prevlou~ question Is ordered, ls a t~p~rate vote d~mtm~ on e~y sme~ament? If not, the Chair will pat ghent ell gro~. The amenflrnent~ were agr~d to. Th$ SpEAKEFt. The questloB L~ On the enRro~t~et~ and th~t~ ~ading Of the bill The ~Ii w~ ovdem~ ¢~ be er, gro~e~ and read a third ti~TI e, ~lnd %'~.~ ~ ~he third time. Air. BROTZMAN. ~ffr. S!~ake r, I offer • motion to recommit;. ~/h0 ~pE~ER. ]L~ the gen~em~t Op- po~ed to the bill? Mr. BRO~ZMAN. I am, In IM pr eaent form Mr, S~eaker. The SPEAKEr. The C erk Wl 1 report the mo~lon to reconttixlt. The Clerk ~d i~ ~ollowe: Mr. B~ra~ ~X~V~ ~o recon~ml t the b~11 l~R 0543 to the CO~nl~Jttos ~*~ L~t~r6tat~ ~nd Foreign Co~e~. M~. ~Tt~C~EP~. Mr. S~ea~ter, X me~ve the pre~i~us question on the ~not~oti th recorr~nit. The prevlou~ question was 0rder~d, The SpBAKER. The que~tio~ is on the Irxoti0fl tO resoy~ml~. The q~ettlol~ was (&ke~; and the ~eaker ant~ounce~t t~le, t the n~ ap- Feared to have ~t. Mr ADAMS, Mr, ~peaker, I obJee¢ to the vote on the gr0~nd that EL quoru~l l~ tier pr e~ent and Inake ~he polI~ ot order that a quoI~Jm is not present. The 8PEAI~R. Evidently a quorum Is not ~r~ent. The Doorkeeper wilt eio~e the doors, the Sergeal~ ~t Arms will t~o~lfy ab~nt Melnber~, and the Clerk will c~ll the roll "l~he ~ttettjolI *A.~.8 g~F*; ~lld ~hero Wer~ >'eas ~3~, ne.V~ 25~ ~tnsweled '~lorete~t" 3, I~0L Vo~inff 40. gt~ follows: YEA~--I87 #d~nm Clau~ ~dwards A~#. ~ndet~.I~o~ It EdW~rd~, ~] ~der~o~t. ~] Clay E~h ~¢IL CMII O~htlafi ]~vt n~. ¢~]a. lce~ ~t Con~bte Farbstela Bles~er Conte Fa~elt ~latmk CoHnan F~dley ~urton~ 0allL l~lggs Olbbo~ l~uttol~ Dlagel] Gflt~rt CeHer DwTer Oree~. p& ~hl~ho]m E¢~rdt Grover ~I~J rn },~c~ RO~hM zla~'lou*ld. H~-I~ M~den St. O~ge He]~k~ M0ylle ~hWel~g~t Ill,ks Meeds 8hl ley ll~an ~]lfl~la Mikva 8~]leS ll~er Ml~k ST~ln~0t, Ja~l~ Mo~e~ ~ern~ ~meler N~ Ud*UI Kelth Obey Van ~rlln yr~ PeHy W~ldle La~ll~ Pep~r Welckor Legge*~tpe~ls 'i~len Lloya plge ~rllJ~ MeC~r~2~y Re~ W~'dler M~CIol~ Retd N.Y. W~.a Abbit$ ~,~leman M~.~hl~ Ju~e 18~ 1969 Ta~ ,~ Wagon Oa~r~¢m H, ~ b~'~e, Call f, Watts V~Uan Te~4~e, T¢ Z, W~l]ey Wrigl~t ~ Ca* ~hlt e'aunp. ~,~ *l~omson, WIS. Whl~te~ Wylie IJltma~ Wldt~aD Tat~o~ U¢¢ W~ la~ younf ~ I~BR~I) ~pR~NT'~ Brtdema~ ~[~b~rt Ra~l~/o~¢k ~1~ I~ ~c0rhead ~wacla So the motion to recommit wa~ re- Jetted. The Clerk aimounced the foHowing p~lrs: On this v0t~: Mr Old,get for* with I~r. H~b~r ~ agait~t. Mr 1~ol*~. for, ~dth Mr. R0b~r t~ against Mr. OaUagher ~or. ~.*lth Mr. AleXande~ sgMn~t Mr. Jarman for, with Mr KIr~.at~ against. Mr Sprluger aga~ ~l~t. Mr. Kw~h for, with ~r ~ffa~lia against ~ntll ftlrther BotJce: I~G. Fdward~ Of Loal~[~** w[t~ Mr. AMa. brook Mr. Ol~ett with Mr Ra~ I~baek. ~r. Wolff wl~h i~r. pollc0k ~tr. l~uczyn~kl with Mr. Cromer. Mr Cl~rey ~[th ~ M~DHara Mr. At~fl©r~on Of Tenr*~see wita M~. Denney Mr. Brad ~m~a with Mr. Ba~ Mr. Miller of ~Hfornitt ~.lth Mr. Hat~er~ of Idaho. Mr. Mo~ g~*~ ~lth Mr. ~ur~on of utah. Mr. D~t~kl with Mr. POWeH Mr. ReU~ ~.[ *..h Mr. Step~ orm. Mr. Olatmo wi~h Mr ~lus of "l'en~e~e. l~ffr NedZl Wltll Mr. Claret. Mr. M0~I]leM ~Jtlx Mr O'FI~ra. Mr. MC~'ULLOCH changed his vo~e frord "fi [ty" to "yeA." Mr, SCO'I'I' fhanged his vote from "y £e.*' to .~rtay.- The r~¢utt of the vote w~s announced as above recorded. The door~ were opea~t, ~t~e SPEAKER The question ~* oil the pa~age ~f tim bill The bill was passed. A motion ~ reconsider was laid on the table.

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