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anfircamna! ccord United States PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE OXst CONGRESS, FIRST SESEION J Vol. II~ WASHINGTON, TUESDAY, .IONE 17, 1969 No, 99 House of Representatives Public Health Cigarette Smoking Act: A~ter complet- ing all general debate on H.R. 6~43, to extend public health protection with respect to cigarette smoking, the first paragraph oE the bill was read and open for amend- ment when the Committee of the Whole r~e. Proceed- ings under the 5-minute rule wi]~ eontinu~ tomorrow. H. Res. 437, the rule under which the bill was con- siderext~ was adopted earlier by a voice vote. ~agt$ H 4~$e-,4 49[

H ,t880 CONGI~SSIONA]L R~CORD--- HOUSE ~C I~[EALT~ L*t ~AI~"I~B 8MOK- YNO AGwr O~ 1969 Mr. ~'O~NG. ~V~, spea/ter, by dlrection of t~ Corar~ttee on ~tfle~ ~ ~all House ~solutlon 437 and a~]~ ~r ira ~x- m~iiate ~n~d~ox~ The Clerk read ~he resolution, follows: H. ~ 437 Resolvud, ~t up¢~ 'the aflopflon of Ho~se re~r~Ive i~elf Into ~ ~e of the Whole HC~ ~n t,h~ Sb~t~ of ~he ~nl~n for t~e oensid~tJon C~ the kd~1 ~ape~ ~o ~xet~ sm~In~ ~d f~ other pu~po~L Aft~ i~ner~l de~, Whlch ~all r~ ~ed to the bill and Sp~dI ~n1~nue -~Id~d r~d ~n~roIled b~ th~ ~t~m ~t minor ~Y meza]~r o~ th~ Comml~ on Iri~ a~d FOte1~x~ Cat~ae~, ~e flve-mi~ut~ ride, ~*t ~ ~m~IUSloU ~/ ~ ~<~tmi~tee sh~l x~e a~t repo~ the ~ ~ wi~ ~xwh ~xxt~ ~ m~ ~ave b~n *zi~pted, and th0 pcevlo~m ques= ~on ~ be c~anidered U o~d~q~ olx ~ t~lI ~d n~aendment~ t~r~o ~o ~asJ The SP~. T~ ~mtlemnn ~rem T~ LM~. ~o~I Is ~eo~n1~fl for ! hour. Mr. YOIY/~. ~r. BpeaJ~e~, :t ~ield ~0 irduute~ to the distinguished gentlem~n tram Ten~ee~ee IM~ ~), i~nd~ whlch I yle]d my~el~ ~ue~ tlme as ~ x~ay Gk~r. YOUNG a~ked and w~ given per- ralston to revt~e a~d ex~nd his re- n~rk~.) • ~r. *z'OUlq~. Mr. speaker, Hou~ ~t~s- 3 hours of ~enera! deb~t~ for eo/~de~- tlon of H~ ~543 to extend public herflfli protection with re~ec~ ¢c clgar~t~ smo~xxg, ~l~d for other ~I~, 'lRae ~ of H.]~ 8543 i~ ~o strengChe~ the warning l~bel which rnus~ a~v~ ~ ~t~m-ebte pzek~es e~ to poa~pcme the tei~ah~t~cn dat~ on pre- em!0t~n of certain ~pec~ of reg~stJon of cigarette ~verfl~In~ from July I, 1909, ~o July i, 1975, The but, ~ smend~L ~V]d require the f0~owi~ label on cigarette pack- ages: w~inE, ~e ~ur~n G~ heJ de= terml~ed t~at c~'m-e~e smok~ is ~- ~ your he~It~ ~ad ma~ ~su~ lung c~eer c¢ other dlae~. ThlS is a sCron~er ~v~rnln~ than that requircd at t he Xzre~e~ tlme, ~o statemenL rdat3n~ t~ ~oking ~Id NO ~ ~latL~ to ~okl~ and p~v~t and ~lu vl~latl~. the Jm'~llc~on of the lu~l r~- ~le ~ ~ "~ ~n~t f~m the l~- on J~" I, 1975, tI~e ~uiion 43~ in o~ar ~ H.~. ~. ~UII~ ~d and ~ ~en Mr. QUr~Z~. Mr. ~sker, I ~ld ~. ~eL as the ~ln~L~d ~n= from ~x~ I~r. Y~O) l~s ~oln~ out, H~ 85~ l~Vides for ~ ~= ~t to ¢ l ~"~ ~mokll~ and for other bill ~ be p~d ~md~ The vm'l~ of the bill I~ to s~L~en t~e wa~L~g ~een~ r~lul~d on all ~ddl~lcnl ~eH~ of 8 y~s ~" ~la~on or ln~ere~e~ with t~b~ ~Ive~rl~ To Tour ~th ~ M~F CaUSe LU~ year. ~he bin wo~fld e~d the ~ flm~h June 30, Lg~, By extending ~he ~t, the ~111 eg~- vi~i by the bill

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H4882 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--HOUSE d~ 17, 1~69

CO~Q~.ESBXONA~L !~JECO~D -- :HOUSE H 48~ oil~re~te ~oklll~ IB qlhy~o~c~By ~tdcHe- ~ve, ,, *or o~ pharm~oIo~ ~n~ Preven~v* M~[. ¢~uel U~V~r~ of osdifnru~a ~2ool o~ ~edi- ~L~e: "phys[c~I depend~ce ~oe~ not develop ~h eld~r~ £~ ~Ro~m0r~. M.D, I~r~or o~ Lab- 0r~ori~. Le~ Hill ~pi~, I~ew york: "~me ~on~usion ~0~ ~brough use of +~ ~o 3~' g¢~er~li~ ~pted Worlcf ~e~tl~h eo~ed ~ ~td~ t er~o~L~ W~sDJn~ton U~Ver~lt~: "l ~w of no SUCh figures which ~h~ a ~her m~ati~ ~to ~lon, a~d v~t hou~ le~=l~rt g v~ry hearsay upo~ selected number o~ l~s~nc~l for pl~¢n~. "~lon ~d hiolng ~me of ~ o~0r~ which are probably J~t ~.~ lmpor~u~ Or l~st as e.on. ~roverMal " wide] ~ publicized ~ou~a~t o~ Of hun~ed~ of of ho ~emn~ o~ life expeck~ a spe~lfl0 n11~'o e~ o~ mlnute~ per elevate ~m~ ~r~ f ancL~l~l exirap01~tl01~s ~md UO~ factual d~~' Sh~don C So~er~I M~D., ~ree~r of I~b- or ~t ~ories, I~ Hill I~p~d. ~'ew yo~k, N~V ~ork~ "M~Uy hgure~ were c~ed Oon~ernL~g 30.000 or ~0~00 or 2~0~00 pl~n~ per known w~at ~he ~au~0~ of lung e~oer, ~oro- h~t d l~e~se, or bronc~o]~ul~on~r y ~L~- e~e ~e, the m~tipllo~o~ o~ n~ber s dcos ~o~ co~lt~buf~ lo u~s~ndln~ ~h~ any F.une ~ec~rlOL Ph. D., ~c~at~ ProCtor, holm: "M~. p~g~ ~ yol~ ¢~t ~.o~F ~er~ l~ no ~lg~l~rt~ dlffe:~n~e ~1 t~e m~r ~ll~ rat~ Of ~'R{r. pe~r~m~ ~0~ ~ho~ IS no evid~c~ ~lng ~WInS? "Dr. ~Lor. NO.~ ~M2. Speaker, if the contradictory ~es- Limony o[ meOi¢~ experts raised dotfots itmol~ conmattteo i~embers, ~hetr pu~zle- I~en~ W~$ ii10r ~tsod b~ con~ssiol3s coIil- ~ng, otldlp ~l~u~ h, Irom ~e ~n~lsrh~kit~ W~10~t~, For exMple: ]Paul l~t~d Dixon, chairman ~f the Pedere, l Trade Comatissl~R. ~ts ~old : 1~ h~l nev~ been ptove~l rmed3ca, u~. ~he e~U~l conneo~lma I~twoett t~e llxl~$d~on of mnoke anti ltl~t~ t#~ncet" ~ou kaxOw th&t. do~II you? And he ~id: yes, ~r. NO witness disagreed th~tt the type nf lung c~n~er ~sso~ia~ed wltlx ~moking i~s ~¢¢~ 4~eetl Ltt0,~med. hx att~ laRt~l~tlou experiment,% d~SpJt~ more r~ f~rl 3~ ~e~ of efforks mad many re&m~ of pablloity intlma~ln~ otherwl~. Dr. William ~. S~ewa~ of th0 PtlbRO Iffe~lt h ~erwce Le~tlfled: :~ ~vo ne~er ~tated a e~ua~ an~ ¢ff~e~ be* ~w~en (¢lgar~t~ fflttokingI Stttd 0oroltax~* (l[soa~e~. Dr. C~mpbe21 M~e~ o~ the Heart Af~ soclatt~a ~aid: There is ix~ prc~f ~hat c~re~¢ sIaokl~tg ~au~es ~oro~r~ artery d fee~me. m~Ieague, Dr. Lewis January, said~ 'I~tere Was ~o ~peoJflo ~tlt~al r~l~OnShlp* Dr. Stewart quoted the 1~6¢~ $4urgcort Oeneml'~ Advisor~ ComrMttee Ss hav~ ing "~tated ~hat a relat~nshll~ exisM be- tween D~I.~ On alT ~sem~ al't~ ~g~ i~,t te~ but i~ ~as not been e~abll~hed tha~ t4~s relationship is cattsaI." Dr. ~r ~hKX ~o0a!~rc~ ~ ~he~ T~ber~ulo~ sis and Re~ll~t ory Diseases Ae~cia~lon ~es~O: qT~s C~U~ c*f empb~m~ is 1log clearD* under~boo~." Asked If 1~ was "not kRuwn," Ire said: :Dr, Robor~ Browning, his 00lle~u~, s~d "we httve not mny vMld ~t0,tLstics y~t ttvRElab]~" o~ emphysema. Doubt, llowever, was no~ ~hc o~y rettg- tion aRlon~ oom~J~ee ~embe~. I02,r~y evidence ~r~ha]ed against ¢igaxet~e ~noklng ~ppe~red to b0 patetttly one violet. ~m~ ~el~. t.tt0,t ~he~, 01ong wb~h the public, had been ~ken on s "bsald- wttgoll" r|de~ Exper6 Witnesses agreed tlm~ both w'ere indeed l)ossiblIl~les. ~ol]o~in~ $.ro Some ol0eervat3ons /~o one-sl~ed lleDor t~lg of reao~r~h: tho]ogy, uaivermty of Texas: I have be~t digzppomt~d 1~. rnF ~aUure r,o find ~n ~le ~r~eon ~eneral*~ p~p~r~ ot 1~d4 ,l,lxe l{ealt tl ~om~qt~ence~ o~ Smoking. tt dl~- C~A~ImR O~ the p~b12~l~ed repo~m of ~os* ~h~t~ ctl~'r~@ Wll, k t~lr e, Onel*aSlOPa. SlleldOR C, ~ommors, M.D., dh~ctor of l~boratories, Len0x ttfll Hc~pital, New T'~e~t ~ resd the !~nrgeotx Oe~e~#l~s 19~]4] rep~t ~l~d I r~ll~e~L Wb~tt h~cl ilal~penot. T]~e]t lta<l sl~lply d~e & s~l~lyo review of I, he lit eratlll'e, q'h~ had ~ lxlve~tlga~e~l ~1 ~pe¢~. "I3ae reporl* slmp~ ~ldrt't covey ~he es~lre tleld~ let ra~ opll~l~ct. I{; W~ St Oil. ~pq~tutre~ut. WflEam ~. Obe~'~ M~D,. d~rector of D.b- olatc~rl~, Kn~ckbOCker Hospital, /flew

H 4884 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- HOUSE June 2 7, 1969 people who ~11 you that ¢lgarett~ ~moEing to the ~clentttic ec~mu~¢F if l~L~ data de~ ~om0 o~0ml~e~ng values, ~ we rnlghJi eatmea lUn~ caner 0~ no~ Like ~o be re. tm~ fail hx ~tep vtl~k pr~colxceive4 ~tio~, ~.~we~ad~Dit ro~x6ed of [eor~0ting] data. in fae~. t~ley w~re ~ inClUded in ~e L~ ~o2g~ ae~- eral'e r~r~ o~ "~moIdng ~d H~al~h." I ~n ~OtTy LIme ~h~ pU ~l~ ~tion p~a~ Led Oe~ly o~ ~ide Of the pic%u~. Milton B. Ro~enblatt, M,D. president, medlcs] ~)ard, 1)ootoi~ Ho~piDal, Mew Yor~: D~tara don'b know a~y mor0 ah~u~ it t~wx anybody e/so dO~ The~, pick tip a h~0Aine m ~ new,paStors and xhey know m~ much m~ ~iy lay person This is a togb]~ e peol~liz¢6 ~rea,,,, The PubUe lie M¢~1 ~- lee £ reg~ ~o say, ~$e~ ~x~ieeoa=~ da~ I~ l~ ~r~e, bLOt it 1~ ~o~; the whole ~rttCh, Hiram T. Langs~on, MD., professor of surgery, ur~versity 0f Illinols College of ~ledicine: i tlll~X~ tiler ±~e atM~ude of m~mF ~f my a~socia~s in [he medical prof~ion 1. that there ~re so r~xny Lblnl~'~ha~ they have to l~o~ lnt~ ~at 1 dmtbt If any great per- eenl~ge have dove*ted the ~hme and effort to Inl,es~fgat[~ag She aerial b~,k~rOul~d Infor- mation and bsve t0ndt-d ~o ., . accept W~t Is handed ahem. Arthur l~/lrs/;~ Ph. 1)., director. ~n~l- tur~ ill Chemical BiologY, Univer~ty of Selen~t~ta ] almo~b ¢~e ~eIaeral idea~ ab~a ~rnok[ng ~hat ~n going oa in ~he woMd a~ound thorn * . jtm¢ because y~u arr~ ~ sdenrist or j~ b~atme you are a do~tor doesn't p~l~ yea in much better po~lt[o~ to k~ow ar~y be~ter than anyone ois9 vo~ o~ oo~ ~t the f~c~. D~alae ~arr, M.D, pre~ssor of 3ur= ter% ITnivcrMty of 'tennessee (!ollege of Medicine: lThe m~Jor~ty of phy~lelansI have to rel~ xtplm pu blishe4 roper% ~nd a~fae~ sor~o r6g- xa~ea~lee .. to reform ~f the fll/zgeotx Gsn- e~l . , ¢ha aug, bey is rat~er ~ll who lxave e~ther xhe ",ime or ~he incll~axio~ to e~ver the expermaental ]~t~ra~ure, TheiRs H, BI"~, ~,D,, p ro ~eq~ol" and chairman, Department of hfedielne, Uni- versity of 8ou~hem CMifomla: t san perfee~y ~m~ ttmt if vuL~ 0ol] ~h~ do~uor~ of ~ ~oll~ltr~ yo~ would g8~ a wry ~rong lr~jonty who believe what the ]~tblac II~lth ~rvlee Re~t says, and fh~t Xhere sh~p, ~ut I ~lLilxk there I~ ol~Iy cn~ ~ f~ 0D0 doo~ot~ in thf~ country who ~ea y ~ read ~h~ pal~r~ ~nfl evidence on the uther ~ide, On the *'bandwagon" effect: Dualae Cam', MD, ~>rofe&~or of s1~r- gel'y, UrdveratW of Tennessee College of ~edfeine: Unfor~unalejy, r~a~ sltppO~ed y well n. for~ed o ffl~al~ in ~l~ pu blJc ~(ea~t ~1 ~erefce 0nti ~eYr~Ut~ ~0h[t~r~ ~l~]l organL~ti~a have p~r~dtt~ t~ir emotionalism a~d ze~J to ou~41~axee the ucttml ~Ien*~fl~ k~a~q- edge ~ proof. This ha~ re~ul~ed in r~l~- te0dlllg ~le p,abllc !n~ believing there L¢ proo~ where none exfsM. A bmadw~On effect htm resttl%ed even in ~he aleclieal ~nd sllen. tRto e~mm~m~ty where too m~ny have ~e. eep~¢~ ~ho pronmune~enta of d~t~ zealot, lact:h~g *IU~ time ~ ~x~mlu~ the seienki~c ba~L% or iac~ of ~r~ ~or e~ch pI~. ~ou~eernenr~ ]F~onald Okun, I~.D., director of ~linl- ca] pharmacolog2~ at Cedars-Sinai Medl- eal Center Lee Angel~ Calif.: There Is ~Uch a~ emo~ion4adea quo~lo~ here, ~L~xero l~ SO much biaS, tha~ one Is ~n danger of l~!ng o~a~z~d by Ia co ~gue~ tolling dow~ a hill* p#~Ople have ~o11*Inued t~ i~e up this ~ad~¢~le wor~ I e~o %o u~-- wlth z~ally r~ e~idmlCe, but Jus~ ~i~ morn~h1~rn or a stone r~lllng down a hlll .... if due wan~s Lo ~ acr usader and r emov~ # ~o£ial hablt frora On; ~nvlrO~t~en~ Whlch ~0~ peop~ find d~l~[ Ib0F eh~ s vetF emOtlon-l~de~l fllr#~ to oln it ~n to make it easler to get their Job do0ae. It se0ms L0 ]i~ that What We have learned from 1,~ffi" pages of testimony is that the public has been SUbjected ~o an old-fashioned scar@ ~mpaign. The e.n~le IAnd ot camll aign that ~ take place ff Congress fails to retain absolute ~uris- die~ion in UtL~ matler. Mr. Speaker, I yleId n~w fi minutes to the gentleman froal ILlnois (Mr. ~D]~]~- 501~), , Mr, ~D~N of ~lh1ols asked alld was given permission to revise and ex- tend Ills remar k~.) l~r, ANDEL~SOlq of lliinols. Mr. Speak- vr, I a p p r ~l~,~ ~h~ 8~tl~ao. frolR Ten- ne~ee yielding, because I have informed Im in advance that un~ortmmtely I cannot take the ~s~tion he t~kes with r~pect to this Ice.alien. Norm~dly when I ~te for ~ x~Ie in the Corrm~it tee on l~ules, ~ I did for this rule, and when I approve it on the floor, as I exDe~t to do today, I do so with the hope snd expectation tha~ I can and will auD- IX)]~ the leg~A arian it makes in order. I have recclvetL I am sure along With other ~,~ $~bers o~ CtJIlgr~, OOIfll~U311ca- tio~ from ~e~nents of the broadeast~ industry a~ well as of tile tobae~ in. dus~ry, ~ying (hat [~sage of this leg- Islation is essential or there will be ieg- ulatory chaos; and, as the g~utleman from Te~essee fust argued, that pas- sage of tiffs legislation is necessary to m- ~u~ that Ci,l~gre~s retains its jurisdic- Hen in this fl~Ad ~ather ~haXi cede d; to fc~h branch of Government. I would hope, very fvanidy, [ha~ by a ne~'~tive vote on this biD, once the ~-xfie has been adopted, we celled ha~ made i~ absolutely cle&r in ~he !egi~tive l~i~ory tllaB WL~ sL~round that vote ~hat C~on- greys is exereiM~g lt~ ]twi~didiJon; ~ we are te]hng the Federal commurfle~. irons Corn mi~mor~ "It i~ the will of Con- greys that you should z~la~ rDll~ !~r od- not which We have f0LUld by this very piece of le~is]aflon to he inJ urtoua to the public health." A few days ago one of the distinguished ~dvlsers i)f the FreSidenk Dr. DaD2el ~o~anhan, deli~l.ed a vevJ ret~ma.Kable c~nunencement address out at the Onl- versity of Notre Dame Among the things he said on ~hat occasion is that In [his co,retry teeny, emd indeed tau-oUghOu~; the Western World, we are ~acing a crisis ef values. I read r~entay a book by Stephen Spender, the poe¢ and critic, called, "The Year of the young l~bel'' He had traveled LO ~ome umvei~lty ~ampt~es bI>ti~ here and abrOad. He came to r~e ¢~nelusion tim~ wha~ the students todaF v~an~ is not power per ae; wha~ they m~ Surely. there is a right Or S ValR~ of ~he brO~dcastGag indtmt,ry R) eon~inRe to receive $200 or $300 n~1~ion a year in adveatIMng 1~venu~J frorr~ the kind Of advertising that is done, itma told, 55 roJuut ~s during prime time oa three tele- vision ne~work~ every ~ight of the ~r, r~er~ is ~hat ~cono~a~J0 value. ~'rmre Ls the eco~ot~c value Of WhLCh ray friend s0oke, of the tobacco faxmer he represents. Incidenr~, £ am not ~thout sy~zi~athy for their I~,SILIOIL I r~IF do no~ believe they are going ~o be banned by the defeat of t~ Icicle- laden ~s muah t~ r~y friend fears they may h~ A~ai.~t these ~ouomic interests, lm- por~arlt as ~hey may be, is a~Tayed She qU~S~OI~ Of wh~ther ~llere ~s n~ • val~te or interest that transcends thc~e we ha~ enumerat~l. I say Ole~ lff a higher value• There is a hlgh0r res~bility 0n the p~ of texts CoKgre~s %o do wha~ it ~n to prowl the health of the I~m~%- can peddle. I say that by a "nay" vo~ on ~k~ l~i~lation we would tell the youug Deog~le of ~his Ooun~, WILD, by the thne ~my graduate from ~dgh ~hool, h~ve been ex12o~gd to 15,000 hoUrs (ff tolevis[on--~nd we would tell that cixfld In the ghetto, where *~eut m~'eys, am told, indicate only 7 imr~nt of the peopl~ ev~ r~d a ~ewsp&pee or I~Rg~- nine but fwe-[hird~ ot the fe~xtlies h~ve t ele~dslo~, set.s~we would te]I tho~ e.hil - dcen, "We pla~e a higher value on pro~ t~king yotu" health than tve ¢1o on any o~her of these Interes~a, i~a!~m~nt and valuable as they may he." I~ ~eems to me.that is ~ ealax of the issue with which we ar~ ~onfronted in this l~qsla~lon. For this Congr~ to t~s- stmae the ix~itton tha~ we do here, that We make the af~rmmtive flnc.[ng %tnder the authonty of the ~m'geon Genm~I-- be it a pas~ ~u~geon Ge*~'al ~r ~ lY~e- sent ~tl~go0n C~tmral or someone el~ we mak~ the finding L,X th~ hill th~ this Is lnjurloL~ to the public healS, that l~ rn~y ~tlSe iL!~g esi1~e~ and o~her r ~spir&- tory diseases, and then We g~ ¢in to ~ay, "~Ut. DD, w0 will ~ot pro~ee~ the ohU. dreu af ~ith muata~ from the ~d of insidious ~u~uences tl~at are wrought up= on their young and lmDre~o~dole m~ad~ with the ~nd of advertising that ix done with ~p~t to this par~lmflt~r pl~luct." I read gome very l~terestii~" ~sti- mony--and with this I will e/oae--~aken before th~ Committee on Interstate and ~i~ig21 con~llel,ee fl~)l~l a Dr. £'~on~Id Ca. Vincent, associate chief, Depart~aent of Thoracic Surgery, Roswe]l Park Memorial L~sdL~ate, BuffaIo, N.Y., who ought tO ~OW whE~ he IS talk[rig abort bee~Lme he treak~ 250 new C~eS (~f lLglg ~anc~r ~ ~ear. ~r~e ~Kys 0f ~I0$~ pOO01e ot~y I0 percent wiIl be alive ~ years later and 06 percent will indicate they s/~oke one or more pae./L~ o~ cigarette t, day. ~ his testimony he said. and I quote: ;~ zuspe0 t tht4 ~ho ~ls~or tans Of the ft~ture ~1I 1~ upon de2 effort~ durLug ~ho pa~t decade Wl%h amlmement, ~2n~ re0o~:[ Will probably a~w ~ha~ here Wa~ a b~ghly in. in,crested 112 is ~1~DgIDg VBIU~I. L~[leotuM ~ucic*~y, greagl¥ c~n~vlled ~n*d I~ g, eeX*IS L0 me lhai* wa in ~)ngee~ or~em~ed ~a,,~ar,* problem~ ~ beaU&, who today come head 51% into a co]I~o1~ Wi0% spen~ milRon s of do[late in health r~earo h

wo~id not (~re if bo~h were labeled. wba~ we are trying to do with cl~'e~tos in Lhis dehBte is nmke known to yolI the fa~ t~%mt every nighL, over~" d~.y, evel~ week, hour after hour oig~2e~Le smoking is po~u~--d 0ut to tI~e youni ~ file mau- net ill wh~h ~ kTOW Up. And I k~ow m/; of you that have cbil- ~ deal ~lth [~ ev~r,~ mght, C~a~e~ smoking by advertising Is directed toward shoving th~ it is ~he ,,iv," thing to do; it 1~ the W~Y to ~et the glri; i~ %s lhe way t~ b~ the hero~ ~% ~ ~ ~ay ~ be the adult to which every Fhffd aspires, and .~) ~ J~ tr~¢ wish r~/erenc~ r~ ~elling o~ vaIues. W~ are tang ~ the yOtL'k~ peo. pie simply ~haL ~ be~t med~eat know~- edge we have now Js that ~l~s p~b~em b h~zardous but yet we ars goin~ ~ say tbs,~ hl adver Fining we ~Jll not say ~%at+ Mn Spe~k~', I ~'~t to make i~ Ve~ ~lenr that ol~ ~m~-endmen~ wS/l [me di- rected tow~r(l two vs.mc tl~nk~. First• by ~eR~ the ~eep[e, ~elling r~hem a~ beat we know, what the si~atlon J~ so they o~n make an ~0rmed J~*dgment, ~e ~e0ond will be to ~h~r~en the length ~t~ce before th~ C~n~ ~uB~der S the, ms~ter again. I~ you want, to talk abo~ the o~nt~l of ~he FCC aud the ~, f&e mos~ important ~mg which the Com. mittee on In~ers~e~te and Foreign C~m. merce gener~/ly tales te fellow is ti~at no biLl goes beyond 3 y~rs b~ore you i~ at i~ again~ Anetber point J~ what we do to ~he States. 1,br ty -eight of ~he ~0 St ak~s pre. ven~ young ~pIe fr~rn ]]awing cL~a- rett~ mold %0 then~ I~V of them pro. hiblt ~m.v adViCe to yo~r~ pe~le smoke¸ Alld, yet, in tb~se States ~hey are n~ pertained because ef the bill which ~he aaver~sing of cigarettes ins~ar as young De01)]e are ~onceri~d. Mr Speaker, we ~ have a gre~ deal of general debate tod~v in which we will deaf,be ~e m~! test[m~y and I you will find ~heme ~ not a ~in~le medical society ~ ~e w0r[d that d~m n~ ~ake the D~sl~/on tha~ eI~arer, to smoking [~ h~dou~ to (me'~ healS. There ~,r~ individual dOCtOrs w~o van u~t L~y :~ad men Of ln~e g~itF ~%d w~l~ I beKeve are sincere in their opinion th~,~ ~1 say--we do not know wha~ It L~ when you light up a eiga::ete and ~noke that ¢~,~e~ ~ne'~ medic~ Drmb~¢ms, could be a number of ~Ln~s. BU~ I wish +,he cigarette lnd~sry wotdd ~q~end $2~0 m/Ilion on ~sea~:ch r~her than $~00 lnllllon on advertising to 0md ou~. The ~PEAKEI~ pro tempore (Mr. BOLAMD ) • 'l~he ~m~ of the ~le~an from Wa~hin~n has expired. l~r. yOUNG. Mr. Speaker, I ~4dd 2 ~ddiflonal rnlnufes ~o ~he ge~Iem~n ~rem Washin~n, ~%~r..~DAMB. TO ~e you s~me idea-- ~und ~hi~ issue is ~oin~ to ~e a value jndgme~t issue~ ~her~ is ~olng to r~ no p~rdssnship in fills issue at alI, i~ is go_ u~ ~o be those Who beDeve ~ha~ ~ ~ltould %ell it lfl~e ~ is,, and these who for ~heir own leg~[Ina~e r~amons feel ths~ t]~ is dO~ng too much¸ I ~ und#rs~and tile ~onomJe problems Of the ~bae~o bllt wl~h ~ c/e~ly defined epfde~Uc t~Ul"~l ng at ~he~r ~ee~, a~ld for r~a~om~ of wb~ tJ~ey thoug]lt ~ be e~%lghtenea p~ltlv~ ~f~ e~no~ic self-interest, ~t~od ~atlmg a~out the br~nches, whll~ ~s~lll~ ~o ~r~ko at the roo~ o~ tLe problem. The SPEA3~LE~ pro tempore The tlme of ihe gentlemar~ h~S sxplre{I. N[r QIT~LLEN. Mr ~peaker. I yield r~he gen¢leman 2 ad¢~itior~I minubes. Mr. AND~t~ON Of ~ltools, ~r. SpeaEer. L read a s~I3~ a Ooup]e of years u~o lit blle newdpaD~r abou~ s ce~ple parturient sh0re and sSayed ~here after it e[o~ and rerngdned ~re all rdgh~. They did not tte~l ~ti~yth~ng bu~ Ble£~]y wen~ ~tround the sto%'~ I~nd ubangsd bhe urine bags On all ~he products ~o ~a~ you could buy ~, fRr ~Dat for $i.98. They ~ralmpc~ed V$1UeS KBd baci~ eonft~ed and nMxed Up some or ~he ~1~storners in ~hat S~OI~ the new d~y. I WOt~ sug~es~ ~ha~ we will be confusing very b~tdly the young p~ople of this eosntl~- L( we ~ranspose val~es In this in.Gance Snd put a higher prem[RIn on the eccnsmi0 inteF~s~s ef the £ullaooo fRrn~er and of ~;se b~ade~tlu~ h~d~¢t.'5" ~nd %it c~ these other entirely ]eg~%4ma~e in~ei~shs ~,hat We do on prohe~in~ r/le .vl~altll ef ~he youn~ people of our e~untry, Ought we n(Y~ put a higher rn'~mltan or* l~o- ~ec tlls~ ~he public health of our OOuR~ry? That is t~he quesl, ien we mhtst arlswer, Mr, QU/ILEN. Mr, Speaker, i have no further requests for t~e, I)~ I -eserve ;,he b$la~.ee of RLV thne ~C/.. yOD'MG. I~r. SPeaker. I yield 5 minutes to the disthagUishe4 gens]eman from Waslzlngton (~r+ A~a~ts}. ~r. ADAM'S ~.Sked al~d was given l~r- mission ~ revlqe ~tnd extend Ida re- Mr, #J)AMB. ~vir. Sleeker, beea~tt~e of the remarks thaW, the ~m~tJeman fr~ ~2Ul~O~ Jus~ made, I ~hink I shOll~ make I~ CFA~.r that on this blll and on thi~ IngLe i shah stand with ~dm. and tomorrow wiU probably be ~ ]011g daF. He haS ple- else 1~" stRted the issue* and I ~up~x)r t hLrn 0n iL ~'L~t i e is~lle is ono of valt%es ; the issue I~ nR~ as to whe&her or no~ ~hls gencra- tIon, In this civilization, will do what it e~u ~ ~totect ira Vouug. We WtD ~t delaF tl~ bill; we Will ~ot l)e~Ifolf en %I:~S bill. I shall vote for the rule on this bill, and I want pBbffely r~ thank Nhe Cow~tLee ~n~ l-Lx~es for b~vkng gWen the time to prepare for ~cda bill. Wa are nOW pre~re~, ~tnd to(lay I WIll doIive~ the ~mendraents whleh I knew abo~t to other ~emb~z~ tlla~ w~n~ 6heln There will 3nObably be o~llers, ~ am0nd- ments Wi[I strike ex~ly at t~e heal% of ~he question wh[CA iS, Should We have a war~lng to ~he yu~I~ people Who aye maldBg ~D their mIBdm-thOse between 9 and" 18 ye~rs of ~ge-~F ~Ivlng them ~e be~t ~owledge that ~'e h~ve ~bout cigarette amekiIlg. ~21L~ bill Is not di- !,ec~ed toward Uon~h~ elgarett0s. If we put cigarettes in ~he same posi- %io~ ~s ~lqu0r, ae %he gentleman h'om Iow~ tuen~/oned, ti2e tobae~ h%dIIstry wiU probaUly save themse~v~ about $200 mfllL0n a yettr in t~d~IZislng. The p@Opl~ l~a~ drh~k V~I ~l~intle to (~Hnk. ~lo£e who smoke ~ probably do zhe se.me, ilgiU~t4:F $4~d I can ~y t~L~: tala~ L~ the but ~ybe they WOUld know a li~lIe tlaore opimolx of this. gentlemen, Whether yotl lldwr~ise or not+ yo~l are probably going ix) s~ the mlne number of cigarettes, to ~ them khe Iollo~vi011 ~Pear ~ %he following year after tha~. BUt wl~t will probably happen l&er~f~er is t1~t fewer ~cung peDple wJll move into i~le li~t r ke~ over ~ p~riod Of i~me and you w~l have, Instead ~f an exp~oPi, a atabi~abion the indUStry. Mr. 2peRker, r~he Rquor industry does l~Ot ~iveI~ise on ~etevlsiom Tha~ is why 11, is riot covered LR this bill. They made a voluliT, gYy &gr e~ent years llg~e tell. visir~n i~dus~i~'--nob r.o pu~ ~e r~dver~is- ing of liquor on t elevlsiorl. Mr. speaker, Jtts~ to Indicate some of the peo!~e who aTM Inr olVed In tbls issue, X n~er¢~ a tel~am th~ mar u~--~md ~h~a te/egram Is addressed to me--frmn the he~y~ speci~ll~ who treated Presi~ d~It Elsenhower, Dr. w~Ite, in whMh he basleally ~vs, "00 on ~he fl~z ~,nd ti~ to do solnetldng about this; tell the peo. ple, tell ~hem at I~ what we tklnk the effect~ will be and wila~ e~her c~rdlo[- ¢~l~t~ think." The ~ame has been t~'ue of s~eela~s~ en~aged in eano~r research. They are not trylng ~ e~mo In here ~ud scare you end ~y, "We kzmw L( you are going ~o ~UOk e a cigarette you ~re goiIlg to get cancer." They just sa~ ~ha~ ~n their me~/J~dg* ~n% ttls d~ge~ ~ I~g~ge ¢lg~tte~ :Mr. Speaker, ~ ~ak unaDirneua con~en$ to insert at this Dolor ~ ~lle R~eom~ the tele~ wkleh ~ have Jtmt re~e£ved frmn Dr.Whtto. The SpEA~.~ pro t~mpore. Zs ~hele objection te the ~'e~uest ~ the g0nt~em~r* f~ Weahln~on? T~er¢ wa~ no ebj e~Jo~. Tim ~l~gram referred to follows: cigarette bi]I that Con~e~ ~ v~/l dise~v~e cl~xe ~e smoking. Z~ ~o~1c{ elim= in~te overF ~tlve me~ ~" r ~.~la~ ad- h~a~ e~'arett~ ~oklng ~r~unt~ ~r ha~- ~t~k~ am~ ~tra~:e~ an~. CaU~ death ~DI Icqan~ ~n4 laymen, hav~ an ob]i~a~o~ rm e]~l~nate or red~ ~he hazard ¢4 clgarot~ a~aokln~. ~ir~er. ~ ~oU~d ~uthorlze a heal*~h W~rnL~44 only or~ cl~ar~t~ packages where ~perlcnc~ bag shown SUCh Warnln~ ~O be Vlr ~Im/ly I ~le~G b~Ir~g seen c~lefly bF ~r~i~mee m~kers o~ly. ~ cc~gTa%l~ate ym~ im yeu~ de,~tiOR to l~ul the hg~t ~ll%st thla b~/l ~ send I~ wannest WI~ ~or suc~e~. T~ de~ t~m bUl ~ould e~- h~rt and blO~ v~sel di~e~ ti'e number one kill~r I~. s~ ~#t[oB ~ay. ~rlr, FOUNTAIN. Mr, Speaker. Will the sentleman yield? ~r. ~DA~, I yie~ to the gentlem~n from Nerth Caro]I~] a. IVY'. ~'OIJNTAIN, I thank Dhe gentle- man for yielding, and I would like ~o ask the gentaeman whether Dr. White hi llis telegialn or in ant commurdcatlon di- t e~ed to the gentlemma or b0 anyone else

H 4886 has ~tathd that he has ever engaged in 1 minute of Daslc research vn this ~ubJect ? Mr. ADAMS. Dr. White did not ~o state in his telejram, mad ~o I do not know whe,~er he haSl I wiII say to the gentle- have engaged in basle rehear oh; we have had pa~holOgist~, hear~ ~pecialis6% can- cer sp~i~ts, and an of them indl. culed---and I will agree wif~h the genUe- man that t~dS n~tt~r of what causes the cancer oui. of iligoa~t~e ~moke is ~g lmown. If they knew, they would ~op it. The SPEAKER pro tez'Opor e. ~ thee of the gentleman has expired. I~r. YOUNG. Mr. Speaker, ~ yield 1 ad= ditienal minute ~ the gentleman fr~r~ Washington. Mr. ADAMS. I thank ~e gen~lenh~a for the additionat time, and I will yield to the gentleman from North Carolina so that he may reply. The probIvm that we have l~ that these men have found over stlldiss guing back ~h 1962 ~h~ hapl~r~ ~n ~e rela- tie.ship in America is bet~'een people who ~noke and the in£1denee of cancer and heart disease, and tl~ is what they say--and this is What the debate ~a~lI reveal ~ P~t~i ~loo~. Mr. FOUNTAIN. I would alco a~k the genifemau if there were any medical or ~cie~t~fle ~tne~vs--who have e~g~ed in basic r~earoh and ~ho have had ex- ~erMuce with ~he mw mule~who testified that In their opinion there i~ a direct and ~osifive cat~l reigttonsl~lp between ~are~te smo~ng ~nd a d~- eRse~ Mr. ADAMS. When the gentleman phrv~s i~ in that way, no. because 1~ is ~v ep|demlological. I.u other words, it is the $~me situation as tha~ which he.~u~ wh~ t~h~ u1~'.u hl F~g1~nd many year~ ago found that there was an egidem~e in an ar~ ~ tYPhoid, and t~at all the p~ople were drinking from the same p~unp. SO what he did was take the handle off the pump, and the eplde~Uig stopped. Now. he did not know ~lmt typhoid baccflll were carried by the water ~up- ply, b~t he ~Id know that if he could break the ~u~al connection betwean the two he cottId save the lives of people. And that is the "~YP~ of evlde~ce that the Stir. g~0n O~ner~ ~as, and the kmerlosn MeScal A~oela61on ha~ t~t~fled about. ~,d baMC~IIy I would say to the gentle- man that is true of meet diseases. The SpE~3~ pro t ampere. The t~me of the gentleman he~ ~aln expired. ~r~r. YOUNG. ~r. S~e~k~r, I ~egi- 5 minul~s to the g~ntleman hum New York tMr, Keen). IMr. KOCH asked and was given P~r" ml~ton W revMe ~nd extend his re- marks.) Mr. KOCH. Mr. ~reakor, flrs~ I would like ~ thank the gentleman from Te~s a~ociate ~vself with the gentigmau [rom ~Jinois and the gentleman from Washington m r~s~e¢~ to their r~aar~ on ~r~oking. after all Of the evidence tha~ hs~ come forth tila~ ~here are still people who quesLisn whether or not cigarette ~ok- hug has a relationship to cancer, emphy- CONGRESSIONAL I~CORD--HOUS~ Ju~ 17, 1969 sem~ aud the c~har ~ f~at the Cos~nu~a~or~Commis~cn--have f~ld 9~.e~tiste ~ it ~ relate to. Bu~ then • Cervera that they l~te~d to t~ke maf~ e~atu, X know that f~ere are s~fil people ~_ ~his w~rld wh~ ~l~w ~ ine ~sth ~ fla~ and If t~ey ~ w£11ing tG be~eve the staLL41eai ~denee that cigarette ~aoking will ise~ to t.heee d~eaav~ Some of the l:eOpIe who sold thaBdo- mide i am sure today do not agree with the scarf estdeuce that thalido~dde cat~e~ defOrmatim~ in the fetus, but etll~ we know t~ took plsc~, and thalldor~de h~ been outlawed. I say to ~tz t~af~ the same staPstlcal correlation exJa~ i~ ~ig~r~te ~n~king. Tho~ w~o reprer~z~ the tobasc~ h~te~- e~ts just thtuk about ttm statlst4~: 300,- 000 [:eoplv ~ die th~ ~ e~ a rt~u1% of cigarette smoking, One million ec~ool- children will be hooked on cigar~tes this year. e~ ~ ~t of Lelev~on and, radio advertisL,~. Thcee people at age 25 who ~moke two packages of eigarettee datlr have a ~ngevity of 8~ .~e~ra less than someone who doe~ not. Is l~ ~orth 1~ T~ the private infr~c~t wo~h it ? I~ the praflt to be made by Lhe e~ gsretig L~dustry worth ltto take theSe ahauces with the llve~ of the Kmerica~ people? T~ere Ls ano~er area that khe C~n- mistee never went into, and that is the sub~cct of addict~n. There is no question bllt that there are s~ent4sts today Who a94r tha~ ~ga- rette ~moking is addl~tivo, ~i1 you have very ]lve~ depend on if, thane peogio who have BU~rge~'s dlse~vho ero f~ld ~y their doctors, ,*Do ~$ot ~loke beCall~e if you d~ach year, ee~h day, each month another part¸ of your body is going te have ~ be amputated/' Yet, they ~ continue to smoke be- cause there is an addt~tive quality to it. ~ay i~ my ~l~ag~es in this ~opse, ~here Is no queetlon but tha~ there will be a penalty paid by the tobacco farmer~ and we should make ~hat up r~ them. "We shoed 4o a~ the% l~ neee~sa~5' 1o make certain that if there is a 10se in tebe~co profits, it is made up by some kind of ~ubsid.v. We sre p~ ~eople not to grow wholesome crops. Y.s it not poesible tha~ we pay ~m nat to gr~w poL~on? I 8e~y LO you, if you eonetder all the~e thfngs, we must not only ~pt the proposals or the amendments that wLll be made later on, hut we must make them even s~r 0ng~r. Mr. yOUNG. Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentismgn from ~aeAlusetts (Mr. ~ACDO~T?.LD ), (Mr. MACDONALD of I~e~eachu~etts asked and was given perrdission to re. vl~e a~ d extend his r ey~ark~.) ~, MACDONAT~D of Maesaehusetts. Mr. Speaker, the ~eg~latign on eigaretLe l~bellng that is ~efore the House today le important to the health and welfare of ever~ Amerimn--~ld Is partlcUlasty ~mpor~a~t to the health and welfsre of young Amerigau~. W~h ~hig 1 e~t~la~inn Con~e~ ha~ n~% only the opvor t m~lLT [Out the duty to se~ ~ational policy. ~l C~lgr ess dces not act, two independent agoneleg~mthe Federat Trade Commieelon ~ the Federal t~ into ttudr own h~ds. " Cce~gl, e~ in 1905 dkl act on e~gare~te labeling, aml by so doing, made it elear tl~% p~ ~n this ~mp~x ~U~ field ~hould be and is the prezc~dve of the elected P~pzese~baU~es of the t~ople in O~n- ~e~, ~ ~tronsl~ ~ippor~ ~n~xe~i~M ~isn ~ the is~e~ before this body foO~v. ~ must and ~hould resolve ~e o~zo~er~ ~ues~io~ concorl~.lf~, ~mokin~ and health. ~ow~er, If con~re~ h~ g duty aet, if a/~o h~ a du~ to act r~bly. In pro~etin~ the health and weif~re of Amerig~u youth it could well be that a ~Bk Ed~@~ure WOllld b~ wor~ ~,han ~1o me~ur e B~ ~, Mm, Speaker, fl~e bill o~ repol~e d from the Colnmeree Cou,n~tt~e, to my mind, testtm~uy preeented. Nor dOeS It provide Iur (i~a~*Sr~lS.~m o~ ~u u~qu~t~ heath w~.rning ta the me important gr0trp or Amerieaus that shoUld be the primar~ ~c~ls of our actions---the young who have not yet formed the cig~re~e smok- Ing habl¢. p~e~en% m~uthg ~L ¢l~a~¢tle p~ha~e~ comes into the hands of those already ~moking. The propoeed, some- what stronger warnL~g weald also al~ear only 0r~ cigarette packages. "~oungcr Amerl~m~s, before coming to the poin¢ of buying cigare~Les, would come Inf~ only ~cca~lonal contact with the health warn* ing. ~ut these eame ~mg persons, as do all Americans, come lntn daily contact With ¢lg~ ~VSI~sJ~g, in pr~t, oil radio, and on televidon. ~q~ls advet~sing is understandably de~nod to ma~:e cig- arette emoLLug seem an appealing and adult activity, encouraging experimenta- ~on by holding up fl~t one, then an. other brand at~ superior hl ~avor and ~mok1~g gieasm~. At the very lea~t, whirr wamln~ we approve for u~e on ¢igare~te p~ckage~ should aiso appear Lu clg~t~e adver ris- ing. AdVert L~ing ~heory has long held th~ re~et~lon Is a key ~ effeatlvene~ and t~mmtant remlndera of the health hazard~ of smOldng should ]~e before a~I groups. alot jtlst tho~e who already have the habit. There are those who hold tha~ requir- ing a warning In advertlsement~ will 9a~e ~he clgal~tt~ ma~l~fact~rers to forgo the I~e of r~teh adverttMng, I do not ~elisve that will be the ease A e~re- D.dly worded wanling weLfld do no mere than satisfy the requiremen¢ for tuIl dis~o~ure and need not destroy the pur- pose of the advertisement, which may he to induce persoa~ who are already mmoke~a ~ ~y another br~nd---perhaps one lower L~ tar ~ud nicotine, Othe~ say that ~ requirement for in- c~u~on of a warning in cigarette adver- tising wotfld be dlscrimma~ry lhat no other industry fac~ ~uch a requtrement L~. eLS ~m,r keying ~tLvltie~. Opp~ut e, of a wavulng in advertising say ~ha~ selIers of other pro0uets with demol~trable haz- ards ~:rom r~L~use, sucl% as au~mobfles a~d ~lcohallc t~verages, are not corn-

June 17, t969 CONGR:~SS~ONAL RECORD -- House H 4887 relied to early warr~ngs In their adver- on ~le State of the UziIon for the e, gn. e~red the FefleraL c~igare~ Labeling thing, slfleration o£ tlm ~ H.R. 6543, ~r, and Advertising Acf~--p~blig Law 89~ But whereas automobiles can be op= gRocrxs in t~ chair. t'rated s~.fe~, medic~I tosr~nony holds ThgClerkreadtlmtltigofthebllL tha~ c~garettes cannot be tm~.oked safely. By una~imotts C0~SeUt~ the ~rst read- And producers of d~%£Ued sp~rlt~ r~g- lng ef the bill was dispensed with. nizi21~ thaf their pr~iuo~ may be role- The C~. Under the zule, the used, have ~o]untarily zefrah/ed fram gentlelaan from WeSt VLrginia (Mr. using the mos~ higbly persuasive adver- S~A~OEXS) will be recognized for 1 t,islng medla---racKo and tele%qslen--to h0~Irs, andthegcnt4mnaniromOblOiMr. promote their products. No sUCh restrain~ D~vzNz) will be recognized for 1 ~.hours, has been forthcoming 1rein she cigarette The Chkle recega~es the gentleman m rt nLL~ac~/ii.erd. In this cvn6ext, it should be sdded~ re~£atlens of axlvextzsing and ttales pr act, lees has, in our lh'eUmes, been mov- (r~ beyond the simple and callo~ dc~= ~rme of "le~ the buyer beware2 M~nu. faeturers are now de~zned to ]rove posi~ Lt~e respoaslbLRtlea ~o their ~us~mers, and full discloaare--whleh has long been th~ rule for mc~ r esponsib~ lndust rIe~--- is ~ow ~g the tulle for aft. Adan~todly, r~dio ~ presen~ aspe= eLal problem If a Warning In adwr~Ising is required. £n s radl~ eommercJsl all ~'ords tend to have equal emphasis and any required language WOUld e~.~ into the ~ted. time for the advertiser's mes- Sage. I~ is potable tha~ the rectulrement for the war~ ~o ~pl~ar in ~dul ad- vet Msenlenie cotdd be waived. US9 o~ ra- 02o for cigarette adve~ents ha~ been limited compared to uae of other media. Tl~e bmbe format of radio spots f~r cig- arettes, the jingle, w~uld suffer from a requlremen~ that ~peeh2e st~tutol~ langu~,e be presented. On television, the warning eo~/d appear on the ~creen with- out interfe~g with Jingles or other ma- terial in the sound, portir~t of ~he an= ~, Speaker, our resp0nslbilthes for setting l~iley tn th~ mapor~ant field are ~ear. 2~ler extended debate in open ses- ~on ~ll arg~nnenLs must rein to the central fa~ that the ir,~es here shOuld be resoI~ by Congre~ which mus~ be respcr~le and respon~ve, through its elected representatives, to ~he W~e3 and needs of all the people. For the reguigtolT agencies, after seeking and fa~li~ to ob~ld consTesslella~ advloe, to ~ unilaterally on ~t~h an leaue of b~sie policy W~uld- be, by definlLlon, not in the pubIig interest, Yet if Co.trees does not act, ~he ~ told the l~fC r~hotlld be ammne~ded for coming ~or- Ward to Fill the l~lley vacuum that will resuI~. Clearly a mandate for the Commis. ~ons is m order--b~t one that aemu~t ely and I~drlF crimea to grips with the gravity of the health hazsrd. ~r, YOI~O. ~r, Bpeakcr, I move the prev2oHs ques~on 011 t~1~ ~E~OI/~LIOIL, "]?he previous question was ordered. The re~olutLon was sgi~d to. & mOt/Oil tO reconsider was D/d on file tabl~ ]Ylr. STAGGERS. l~Ir. Speaker. I move tha'~ the I~ouse resolve itself into the committee of the Whole ~ on the S~ato of the Utflon for the col~siderat Jon (ff the bill (H~. 6543) to ~xtend publle health Dmbeetlon With reatmct to cigar- ette anmkigff and Ice other purposes. The mo~ion was a~reed to, Aec°z'dhlgiY tile Ho~se resolved itsei~ I~l~O ~]e CoI1qJ~$tee of she Whole House ~l'O~l West V~rEL~ t~r. STAGGERS). ~r. STAC~R~. Mr, Chairm~n, I ~eld myself such t, ime ~ I may consume. Mr. Chairman, the leglsla~lon which the House is considering today amends the Federal C~arette £~beting and Ad.- refusing Act. The hill wa.q r epoz~:l from the /nterstat~ ~nd Foreign Commerce Committee by a vo~e of 22 to ~. Some of ~e most ex~emlve heartu~s held by the committee during the time have beeu a member were held on thle h~ation. We heard every p~rson Who a~ked ~o be heard and could comply Wfth our hearing schedule. Zn all the roll c~mra tree heard 91 wirelesses and re- calved 117 statements Jn 13 days during the period from April i5 to May L on May 28, the committee ordered H~,. 6543 *~parted to the House. A~ the reques~ of Members who wished to file mhlorIty reporth Z deferred ~]ng the report en the bill uut~ JUne 5. On sun. day, JUne 8, I received a telephone eaU at my hol fl~ ~£xr~l ~, m~iber o~ th8 eo~t- mlttee who asked tar addleloaal hearings On the ieg~sla~ion on groun~ t~a~; Ln. fomlatlon had been brought to Ida at~ tentlen which placed in ~ue~tton ce~- teln testimony received from a ~epre- ~ntative of the radio and ~elevlelon brOad~g industry to the effect that the industry was ~ out an e~ec- tire e.ontlnulng review of cig~,rett0 ad- vertis~ng OR radio and tdevizimL Thl~ information consisted of a confldenfla~ I966 report rg the eerie authorikv of the i~at~onal ~SOclat~on o~ ~roadoasters relatil~g to broabeas~ oigaret to advertise- men~a end an allegRtton by a fonuer empIoyee of the et~e authority-who also released the cOm2dential ~pm~-to tee effect that ~1~ LudustTy" had ceased effective seif-regul~tlon of ~ga~ tette advert4slng in April 1968. So as t~ p~ovlde Members With as much ~nform~tlon ~u~ possible while con= sige~g the Iegl~la~l~ before the HoUSe, I oz~ered a he~rlng to be held last ~£~ ms. daP. At that h~aring we heard IV[r. Vin- cent Wasllewski, prc~ident, of the NAB; Y~r, S~ckton I~elffr[ch, d£vector of the code authorttv of the NAB, and Mr, Warren Braren, who, until May 1 of th~ year W'~ manager of the New ~ork off~ce of [he code Rut hoz~ty, Those hea~- ings la~ed the entire day and the hear- Lag r~c ord covers 26~ pages. All this ln:lermatkin is presented to ~he House, and I trust that each Member ,kill con~der all the ex~denee and give ewry pazt ~uch weight as his best judg- ment may dictate. The "lz~ue k~ highly emotional. ~u~ wha~ ts reqt~red of us, In my optolon, is ti~t we set In ~c~rdance w~th wha~ we t~*t~der f~ be the b~t interest of th~s Nation as a whole. Now. ~. C%amaaa, let me ~urn to the ]egtatation itself. LR 1965. Congress 9~-and made it effective J~auary 1, lg66. E~ezl~l~] y the act,-- ~rs~, ~pnil~ clgaresto p~ckages Lo bear the label: Oaution : Clgaret~ ~okl~g May Be Haz= Second, prohibl~ any other s~atetaent rsIating to ~aoFAng and health from bell~ reqt~lred oR cigarette packages s9 Iaheled; and Third, provides that lm~L1 Jiffy 1, 1~69. r#o ~t, ater~lent, re~ating to smckIrlg and health ea~ he r equ]~'ed LU any advertise- merit of cigarettes pltekaged in accord- ance With the act~ H.R. 0~43 as reported by the eermait- tee amends the ac~ ll~ two yer>pe~t.s. First, ~hange~ the warning required on cigarette packages to read: We.rntug: Th~ Surg~n ~ezteral Has De- tez~Mned Tha~ C'2ga~et~e ~klD~ ~ Dan. gerous T~ ¥ot~/:leelt ~ And IV~" Oalt~ LtU~g Ca]2~ Or Othe~ Dlseae~. Second. It l)gS~I)01igs the telTnlna~len date ou preemption of regululic~ on dgare~te advert~ from JUlF 1, 1989, to JUly 1,197~. Mr. Chairman, to fuI~v appr ec~ate the 8i~tion Wilt whle~h we ape co~oeriled in this legleIagon, the Mem~A'S of the House should know t~at the Federal communleat~ons C~nnisman and the FedecaI Tied8 coramissleR h~.vo ea¢l~ Undertaken ruhm~aking p~eedLn~s ba~ed on the possibRlty tha~ Cougr~ will perraib the preemption provislo~ to terminate on JUly ~, I909. The rule~ pr0p08ed by rite FCC, [f adopted, woUld ban all dgare~te advex- tieing ~xom radio and teIevisleru Those pr op~ bF the FTC woUld have vtrtu- ally the ~ame effe¢~ With respe~ to slga- re,re advert~lng in all other medl~. The FT~ prol~or~l¸wouId require printed eigare~te advertisemen~s Lo bear a lengthy heaith ~-arn~n ~ NOW, Mr. C~aU. others wflI point out the proble~ of eo~s~iLu~tona[ and ~atutory law which these proposed ruigs raise. Whtle I ale cmlcezmed abou~ thes~ problel[lS, they are not my l~ajor con- tern. My princiPal concern le tha~ these ~geneles, the FTC a~d the F~C, have ass~med a potleymaking role w~th re. spect to matters never intended, by Con- gress. Wlla~ may be broadca~ over radio and television, ~nd how legitlmat~ ~r~- oles Of eon'~£~ce may be ad.verL~, are tandamentul decisiort~ _~ney shOUld no~ be made by ageneie~ neff respoms[ble to ~.he people of shls Natron. Mr. Chairman, I do not au~oke; I do no~ believe lha~ ~.r~r o~ my ahlldreR ~aoke: and I do not believe that ~mok- tng l~ ffG~d for ~,2~'o~e. Be~ [Lse ii~V com- mittee hml reported ~ bill I intend to ~uppart it. Nevertheless, if amendmenr~ to the bill are adopted by the Houae Will no~ be distres~d. The peter I am makir~, MX. Chairman, L~ ~at in the pre~n~ situation pollr~making wi~h re- SlmCt to cigarette labe2mg and advertis- ing should be fixed by the agency set. up by r~he ConsLlttr~loR for the making of ~ub~c pol~ey~ha~ agency is the Con- L~ess c~ the United S~ates. I hepe thl~ ~ou.~ wfll no~ abdicate ~b2s duw ~nd r~sl~O~l~ibllfiy by f~l]91g to p~S Ieg~]a-

~Lr. C~lr~s~ ~ ~ve l~eard ~me MemOs ma~e the stRtement that they will vote ~g~ ~ bm ~o t~t the FI~ and the FCC can act. TI~Is Is no~ ~pting oltr ~espon~Ibillt~z, T~t is wh~t is ~e matte~ with ~ Z~tlon. We of values, bu~ yet we ~Y, "We will give that :es~billty to ~r~ekody else," Tlds Congress i~ endowed with t]~e power to ~t L~ ~h~s ~u~ion ~tnd we should not give it to so~n~ [tgencq dow~owlt by fail- It is our r~von~bili~y. Tlds Congress ~]~ould do wl~t~ever neeas to t~e done, V~e I~acl be~o~e ~d~r ~A~xnlttee 2~ ~ndmen~s tl~ were vor~ on. ~ome of ~em wer~ lulnlmd into groR~s, bu~ there were 29 sel~te vo~e~ t~k~R. T~t Is the d~o~r~ we~v of do~ng it. We should let the eleeled R~l~resentRtlves of the ~- ~]e s~t l~y t~h e£r votes. Tna~ i~ one re~tsolt why I ~h0tlght tbi~ bill sltot~d come to ~1~e floor of @ollgress, ~o le~ th~ elee~ed P, el)re.~n~t4~e~ o~ the people o~ rJ~i~ ~tlon 1~v~ thei~ ~y wit1~ ~es~ ~o wb~t shfn~ld be doRe snd tl~en vote. So let us ~ccep~ o~: re~l~onsibillties ~S 1~e~)resen~ttives of the Peo~le, m~l~e ou~ ~sendment~ to ~be bill, and then let the biR be p~med~ Mr. C~ns~rumn~ t~e following corre- spondence corrects ~ mls~rrna. ~o]I Wllleh ~vr~srs on l~tges 1289 ~nd I~90 of the ~te~Ings on r~qls leg~sI~t~on ~LI~I I Include ~t in ~he ~o~n ~ ~hlS ~)r~ MR* C~m~: ~U ~te~rlngs o~ the ~te~t~te ~ Foreign ~om~¢~ Con~d~s I, 19~@. t~ece ce~a)rred ~ ~lloquy betw~n ~, Meyuer, Ad~nluls ~r~cr of t]~e C[knz* ~n~e~l to ~e~ ed~ly <~ ~ LOr~l]~rd r~l~tlo~ ~ e~wee:1 Lo~illat'd ~ t4~e :Fe~i~ el~ ~cade Coi]~J~L~io:1~ BeC~I~9 Mr ~),ne~'~ t~Im~y ~t~Inect ~a~t1~1 IV.SeeU~, W#~ • re ~i~n~ ~h~ ~ Wi~l~ ~he request ~.b~ [~ ~d t~e ~t~t~l~ed d~n~ be zn~d~ p~tr~ o~ ~ N~ord ~r i~ae hr~r[ng~ W~ ~ t~kln~ ~l~e ~b~y of ~w~r ~l~ g c~ t:de~ c~ ~or r~s~denee to Mr. Meyu~ ~ to C~ ~i: o P~tU~ ~d DL~ll ~f ~1~e Fe~ieral Tra~ bJa ~st i~zty on ~y i. ~ t~y]~ ~ cotz. de~ the yelez~l prode @~on'~ ~n. nounce~ent of ~ ~5~ !9~, IR ~zhlch ~be C~t~11~ 1~9~e1~li~ l~r £or ~ollcy~ decL~ cc~r~t~u~ in c~Etret~e ~dver ~il~g ~v~tlld ]~ e~nsJd~ ~n vlOl~*ti~1 r~f l~w. ~ ?*~e~ ~tlon b~t~j~ abo~t the i~a e~tte r~gr~- tloR oi" one ~e~m ~er ~ ~he Co~i~=-1~er Iden. t~cd ~ L:)r~ILerd~ t]n~ ~ bsequ~t r~s11~. n~LC~ ~f two othe~ uvL~ioRt~ed C~e mem~ bets ('C~ey W~, in f~t~ 8t~ph~n~ BrO~hm~ • nd A111~r~ Told%coo @O~ll~Z n ~,! "I~le~" e ~ol. yc~l questions I W©UI~t llks to ssk, ~U ~tentlone~t RJoot~e.